I understand your point, smart move from you! the only downside is I bet Apple will update this in the next year or two. I only will buy this used for $2,5K or something like that.
Initially I thought it is a monitor that doesn't compromise on anything at this price point, however that is not really the case: - Using the Pro Stand, the monitor does not go very low. This is a limitation induced by the height adjust mechanism and it needing to be high enough to enable the 90° rotation (who actually does that on a 32" monitor?) - the left / right edges of the panel are noticable darker -> not acceptable given the price - the built-in power supply will be the first point of failure... - the thunderbolt cable is under constant side-tension given how it is placed if the cable runs through the hole in the pro stand
I’m still using an M1 Max 16” MBP. Once Apple releases the new displays, I’ll be upgrading to an M4 Pro 16” MBP since it’ll likely require Thunderbolt 5.
Peter, you should give yourself more credit than you do! You're absolutely a professional. I have to say though, ff anyone is about to spend big money on a monitor for editing and grading, get the CG319X or the 2700X. EIZO is one of very few brands that will last in the long run. They are not sexy in any way, nor are they spec-monsters. But they’re UNIFORM and performs to spec every day for a lifetime. Calibration should be done at least once every quarter, and their software + built-in colorimeters are above everyone else. Using a non-repetedly-calibrated monitor is like playing guitar without tuning it.
I might be the only one, but I prefer reflective surfaces. If the light refracts on the matt surface, I can't tell whether the image is just brighter. But on a reflective surface you see the reflection shift if you move your head.
The other BIG thing to keep in mind is the display’s resale value at the, let’s say, 10 year mark. It’ll still be worth several thousand dollars. After 10 years! The $1000 27” Thunderbolt Displays still go for $250 on eBay. That’s CRAZY. So if Apple updates the Pro Display XDR and you decide to buy, you could probably sell yours in a few years for around $3k+ to help pay for the new one. Great video, Peter!
*Hey Peter. Thanks for making this video and going to the trouble of actually explaining why a five year old monitor can be far superior to a brand new one. Newer isn't always better. I get it and I agree such specs are essential for image colour and density correction and image quality evaluation prior to performing a grade on a project. One simply cannot effectively grade a project unless they can fully see the colour space and know they are seeing the true accuracy of the source camera footage in its extant condition prior to attempting to correct or modify image colour and density of exposure.*
A good monitor is important but high brightness and high resolution isn’t that important to color accuracy. Just because a monitor is very bright and vivid does not mean it’s color accurate. To ensure color accuracy you should always calibrate yourself of pay someone else to do it. For PC you can use Calman to calibrate your monitor. Most companies only calibrate a monitor to Delta E>2. Best color accuracy should be less than >1 and close to zero as possible. For Mac you can use Calibrite though they’re not as good as calman and really just create a profile for your computer to use that’s more accurate but it will use your computers color science to do it.
For Windows, you can buy the Home version of Calman, then buy licences for monitors. It's around $45 per monitor, if I remember correctly. So, you can calibrate your TV (if supported) - 1 TV for every Home licence and $45 per monitor. For the TV, you can use autocal or manual calibration. Don't know about the monitor, but I assume it's also autocal.
if apple makes a PRO XDR with at least 90 hz that would make my jaw drop even if i could never afford one. i am currently sitting at an 48gq900 and love that thing
I also type my opinion. Because like and comment gives Peter a virtual thanks. I prefer to spend more money and usually if i need something, i do my research and get the best possible item. But apple is mostly overpriced with it's items.
Peter, I noticed my Pro Display XDR purchased and used since 2019 now has a dimmer area (near the frame) in all sides. Very noticeable with white scenes at brightness bars of 3 or less. They brightness is even throughout once pass 50% brightness. You see this with your new Pro Display XDR? Thanks for your time,
I went through 4 PDXDRs due to that vignette effect, as well as dead pixels and repeated dirty screen effect/unevenly lit display due to the 576 dimming zones. One even had the glass on skewed with glue sticking out. All out of the box. I know a few people who do pro work who couldn’t work with these issues. I was one of them.
@@tomreports1223 after 5 years, I finally noticed, Must be some change in my office lighting and seating position, But once I saw, I cannot disregard now. Hoping for Pro Display XDR 2 soon.
Great business expense as a professional. Yes 5 years old but nothing compares 100%. Well Future proofed. Made well ahead of its time. Only for real professionals Thanks for the review buddy
Köpte den (Nano) direkt när den kom ut, trodde verkligen inte att det var 5 år sedan mer 3 år sedan, tiden går snabbt :) Även om det verkligen inte finns något att klaga på kvalitetsmässigt så hade det varit riktigt nice om de kunde släppa en XDR 2 med 8K upplösning.
Can’t really see it that way. It’s like comparing it to buying a NAS. Purchasing hard drives won’t necessarily generate a higher income, but it will help you to run your business more smoothly/seamless
En fantastiskt cool skärm det där. Kommer ihåg när den utannonserades, kan inte fatta att det var 5(!) år sen! Kul att höra dina tankar kring den 😀 Ska själv skaffa en ny skärm. Har alltid använt min MPP inbyggda 16 tums skärm - och den är fantastisk. Men liiiite liten. För min del blir det nog en Apple Studio Display. Ser fram emot större arbetsyta!
I see the worth of this a monitor, I know it really worth it's price. I'm waiting (practising) the moment when my skills and revenue will match the quality and price of the monitor 😀Thanks for sharing 🙏😊
Apple made this reference monitor to be cheaper than other reference monitors that cost $50,000+. That is the point of the XDR display. If you are making movies & so on this is a cheaper option with reference monitor qualities that is cheaper.
It’s not a reference monitor or even close to the quality of one. It’s not even recommended for high end production. It’s meant for like UA-camrs or other people, but not to be used for professional grade due to the numerous issues. The fact you mentioned the reference monitor part, is proof that Apple has fooled you by their marketing.
@@Kjaywest Except you’re referencing a reference monitor, which is exactly what Apple did when they revealed the XDR display. You believe it to be comparable and it’s not even close. That’s exactly what Apple wants. And yes, you’ve been fooled. Professionals who do color grading have tested the XDR and it’s flawed and should not be used for that type of content.
@@Kjaywest Go watch the video titled “Apple Pro Display XDR Review (vs Sony Reference Monitor)” and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. Next time, maybe you should actually research what you say before you say it, lol.
It's not a reference monitor. Not even close! A delta E around 1.7 is not a great monitor. It also has dark edges, it only covers 73% of Rec.2020. My Asus $800 monitor can be calibrated to a delta E around 1. Far better than the Apple. A Flandern Scientific XMP310 to 0.25 and a Sony reference monitor to 0.02, if I remember correctly. This monitor doesn't even have SDI inputs, which is essential for reference monitors. And since he bought this $7000 monitor, then why isn't he even using it for monitoring? Editing on a cheaper display, while doing color grading on the Apple.
As a pro designer, I also love this monitor, but it's hard to justify a $7k investment on a 5-year-old tech. I'm hopeful Apple will have an XDR 2.0 coming maybe this year in October when they have a Mac event. Ideally, Apple would have a 30" Studio Display at half of the price of the XDR. That would be a nice move.
You bought it because you can 😅 There are a lot of other options as good and sometimes better than the xdr at a lower price... The best investment is on a monitor calibrator, have been using calibrators for years...
@@PeterLindgren1 also you don't need 1000nits to work, it will burn your eye balls, recommend brightness is around 120cm/m2 which is equivalent to 120nits
@PeterLindgren1 don't get me wrong the xdr is awesome but it's not worth the price, I would consider buying it for half the price but would still consider other options... As I stated, you bought it because you can, I wish I could get a good alternative... 😉
@@DiogoReis Dude, i've worked on 120/300 nits displays, and they're incredibly bad to work at in comparison! I know that there's other great options, but there's nothing that does everything that this does!
Peter’s wrong by saying you don’t need to calibrate. If you’re going to be doing color grading in any form, you will need to calibrate it every couple weeks or so. so saying that just cause it comes calibrated out the box it doesn’t need a calibration is wrong. I’m the truth is this unit is not four color grading. It does not do 100% black you would be better off with a high-end Sony or FSI unit.
The price of a true reference monitor is several times this. It’s like saying that you shouldn’t use anything other than a Venice to film videos with 🤷🏻
@@PeterLindgren1 No need for a Master Grade Monitor like the BVM-HX3100 or Prominence. Just get the PVM-X2400 or a CG319X (which is actually cheaper than the Pro Display XDR). And a probe is very important. Grading without a truly calibrated display is like playing guitar without tuning it.
Could have been good if the display wasn't locked at 60 Hz... It is also just IPS,not impressed. 32" is quite too big too. Surely a decent reference monitor but most people will watch your videos on a cheap screen or even a TN panel for most of them. Worth the money? Probably not.
No need for more than 60hz when your video or photo editing, and again, this is a tool. IPS is great for color rendition and brightness. It is indeed worth the money if you’re a professional at what you do.
@@PeterLindgren1 strong disagree, I cannot live without 120Hz on my Macbook. Having a desktop monitor or 27"+ in front of me at 60Hz only? NO WAY. What's the point of working on a premium computer if it cannot even have smooth scrolling or motion. Even for Web browsing or coding it is critical and a very good feeling on day to day basis. So yes, you will not export 240Hz in a video, but that will be so much more pleasing to the eyes. I rather have more monitors with a high refresh rate than a bigger resolution on one and locked to 60, any day. IPS is just inferior to OLED on any aspect. It is sure better than TN or VA, but still beaten any time. Especially in games, or good films that will showcase deep blacks and infinite contrast. With no real issues regarding burn-in either. Accuracy is important but not a deal breaker either if you are there for 98% of the way, other quality of life things are here. That monitor is far obsolete nowadays with Vision Pro and the freshly released Vision OS v2. So no, this is a total worthless piece of hardware IMO.
You have bought this monitor, for all the wrong reasons. And this is from the view of spending 7 grand on a monitor, not based on your needs. First of all, your monitor is color calibrated. That calibration will last the first month. After that, it's not color accurate, and it will drift more and more, over time. Second, you bought the wrong coating. In your dark settings, you should have gone with no coating. If lights are shining onto your screens, they are placed wrong. In fact, any serious color grading should be done in an almost dark room. But ok, for editing, it doesn't matter. And do you do color grading a lot, as well as content control? Then you should have a 4K monitor, just for monitoring the video, and not use the view in your NLE. You also said, you need a lot of brightness. No, not for color work. Industry standard is 100-120 nits for SDR, 50-70 nits for cinema and 1000 nits for HDR. No less, no more. If you don't want to live up to these numbers, there's no need to use a $7.000 monitor. Granted, you can do a color grading in the room with the lights you have now. You'd probably need to be around 150-200 nits then. Consistently! You are also mentioning 10-bit display (opposed to 8+FCR). But you didn't check the coverage of the display, obviously. The XDR does 98% DCI-P3 and 73% Rec.2020. If you don't do HDR, then it's not a problem. But it's just not good enough, for a professional monitor. A Flanders Scientific XMP310 mid-to upper range grading monitor, does 1000 nits, 100% DCI-P3 coverage adn 90% BT.2020. Granted, it's a $11.000 monitor, but you can get the same coverage as the XDR, for a lower price. Much lower. The grayscale and color delta E for your monitor, is also not on a professional level. It barely manages to get below 2, from the factory. I have a new Asus $800 monitor, meant for game developers. It manages a delta E calibrated, at around 1. It's an 8bit+FCR display. The Flanders measure calibrated to around 0.25. So, my Asus measures better than your 10-bit panel.
@PeterLindgren1 That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying you're using your monitor the wrong way. Mine is a 2K 32", the ppi is too low, like if I look closely, I can see individual pixels. It's a 600 nits HDR, so not "real" HDR. It's a 165Hz display, meant for game devs, so they can have both color accuracy and high refresh rate. It has obvious issues on the edges, on a black screen. Probably worse, than the XDR. The screen is also not uniform. The thing is, I can accept the flaws, and I don't care. Because it suits my needs. I don't ever notice the flaws, other than when I test the display. But you bought a hugely expensive display and are using it for the wrong reasons/the wrong way. That's my point. The way you use it, you could have gotten something far cheaper, and not notice any difference, BECAUSE you are not taking advantage of your monitor's features and capabilities.
This is a 6K monitor, 1000 bits sustained brightness, 10 bit, flips to vertical (together with the OS) when editing content for instagram, matte screen for when my rim lights shines at it & my panels are lit up. Supports HDR, works flawlessly for video editing and supports thunderbolt. There’s so many things that’s WAY better than a lot of monitors, and this is coming from someone that has used $200, $1000, $4000, and $7000 monitors.
@@PeterLindgren1 You just don't get it. No matter if you had the XDR, a Flandern Scientific XMP310 ($11.000), or a Sony BVM-HX3110 (~$35.000), my critique would be almost the same. You are not using your monitor at all, like a pro display for video editing and color grading should be used. One thing that would still stand, is, that the XDR is no match for pro displays, and that there are other monitors on the market, that can do just as well. Even for less. Let's first check if Apple's claims holds water. Min. nits tested by a pro calibrator is around 1,7 nits. Max. peak brightness 1600 nits. I'll let that slide, although such a claim should come with a specification, e.g. 1600 nits in a 2%, 10% or 25% window. But hey, other manufacturers do the same. So, 1600 / 1,7 = 941,17 contrast ratio. Not 1.000.000:1 as Apple specifies. At least the Flandern can go to 0,25 nits and the Sony to 0,004 nits in HDR. Both do +1000 nits peak. Didn't bother translating this. It's from Apple's site, and I'm sure you can kind of read it (Danish). XDR. Ekstremt dynamisk område. Den kontrast mellem lysstyrke og mørke, som dine øjne er i stand til at se, er utrolig svær at gengive på en skærm. Derfor er High Dynamic Range (HDR) blevet udviklet. Den banebrydende teknologi til baggrundsbelysning betyder, at lysstyrke, kontrast og farve når helt nye højder med Pro Display XDR. Det er langt mere end HDR - det er Extreme Dynamic Range (XDR). So, Apple invented a new term - XDR - although their "Pro" display can only do less than 1000:1 CR. I already mentioned the poor Rec.2020 performance, so no need to go there again. Let's see what Asus can do. ASUS ProArt Display PA32UCXR Price: $2,699,- at B&H Photo. 3840 * 2160 resolution 1600 nits peak/1000 nits sustained. built-in colorimeter and auto calibration. Factory calibrated (so was my $800 monitor btw.) True 10-bit panel. 99% Adobe RGB, 97% DCI-P3 and 85% Rec.2020 Delta E < 1 color accuracy 2304 local dimming zones (XDR has 576) HDR-10, HLG, Dolby Vision It does as good or better, than the XDR. I don't think you will, but you should watch a review of the XDR, from a professional calibrator. ua-cam.com/video/rtd7UzLJHrU/v-deo.html
If it makes u feel better I customised my iMac…$9,450. For music production and video production editing purposes 😊. Threw everything at it no crashes
Same! Can somebody spare us a dollar 😂 - maxed out my 16” M3 Max. The level of overhead and freedom this gives us is absolutely insane.
I understand your point, smart move from you! the only downside is I bet Apple will update this in the next year or two. I only will buy this used for $2,5K or something like that.
Initially I thought it is a monitor that doesn't compromise on anything at this price point, however that is not really the case:
- Using the Pro Stand, the monitor does not go very low. This is a limitation induced by the height adjust mechanism and it needing to be high enough to enable the 90° rotation (who actually does that on a 32" monitor?)
- the left / right edges of the panel are noticable darker -> not acceptable given the price
- the built-in power supply will be the first point of failure...
- the thunderbolt cable is under constant side-tension given how it is placed if the cable runs through the hole in the pro stand
Yeah, that’s right quality over quantity
About to purchase a M3 Pro MacBook Pro to be my daily driver for the next 7+ years
I’m still using an M1 Max 16” MBP. Once Apple releases the new displays, I’ll be upgrading to an M4 Pro 16” MBP since it’ll likely require Thunderbolt 5.
Great video, I'd love to know what arm you use for the studio display xdr thanks to you.
Peter, you should give yourself more credit than you do! You're absolutely a professional.
I have to say though, ff anyone is about to spend big money on a monitor for editing and grading, get the CG319X or the 2700X. EIZO is one of very few brands that will last in the long run. They are not sexy in any way, nor are they spec-monsters. But they’re UNIFORM and performs to spec every day for a lifetime.
Calibration should be done at least once every quarter, and their software + built-in colorimeters are above everyone else.
Using a non-repetedly-calibrated monitor is like playing guitar without tuning it.
It would be great if Apple release a new monitor today.
Yes. I am waiting on them to release their new monitors too! It’s the most anticipated thing.
I might be the only one, but I prefer reflective surfaces. If the light refracts on the matt surface, I can't tell whether the image is just brighter. But on a reflective surface you see the reflection shift if you move your head.
Dude, i was the same, but this shit is dope lol!
The other BIG thing to keep in mind is the display’s resale value at the, let’s say, 10 year mark. It’ll still be worth several thousand dollars. After 10 years!
The $1000 27” Thunderbolt Displays still go for $250 on eBay. That’s CRAZY.
So if Apple updates the Pro Display XDR and you decide to buy, you could probably sell yours in a few years for around $3k+ to help pay for the new one.
Great video, Peter!
42" LG C3... got 2 of them for video production. They are awesome and cheap comparatively. Thanks for your content!
TVs? A bit too big nah?
@@kissu_io it’s fantastic
*Hey Peter. Thanks for making this video and going to the trouble of actually explaining why a five year old monitor can be far superior to a brand new one. Newer isn't always better. I get it and I agree such specs are essential for image colour and density correction and image quality evaluation prior to performing a grade on a project. One simply cannot effectively grade a project unless they can fully see the colour space and know they are seeing the true accuracy of the source camera footage in its extant condition prior to attempting to correct or modify image colour and density of exposure.*
It's just not a very accurate display, but hey!
At least it says Apple on the side.
As a 27” Apple Studio Display owner, I’d love a 32” one for half the price of a Pro Display XDR.
A good monitor is important but high brightness and high resolution isn’t that important to color accuracy. Just because a monitor is very bright and vivid does not mean it’s color accurate.
To ensure color accuracy you should always calibrate yourself of pay someone else to do it. For PC you can use Calman to calibrate your monitor. Most companies only calibrate a monitor to Delta E>2. Best color accuracy should be less than >1 and close to zero as possible.
For Mac you can use Calibrite though they’re not as good as calman and really just create a profile for your computer to use that’s more accurate but it will use your computers color science to do it.
For Windows, you can buy the Home version of Calman, then buy licences for monitors. It's around $45 per monitor, if I remember correctly. So, you can calibrate your TV (if supported) - 1 TV for every Home licence and $45 per monitor.
For the TV, you can use autocal or manual calibration. Don't know about the monitor, but I assume it's also autocal.
Ha! My question answered in video form. I'll take it 😅
I made this specifically for you ;)
@@PeterLindgren1 I knew it! I feel special ❤️
Did you just call yourself “not a professional?” Nah bro….you’re a professional. Give yourself the credit you’ve earned and deserve!
if apple makes a PRO XDR with at least 90 hz that would make my jaw drop even if i could never afford one. i am currently sitting at an 48gq900 and love that thing
Hey, what monitor Arm did you use for your Pro Display XDR?
I also type my opinion. Because like and comment gives Peter a virtual thanks.
I prefer to spend more money and usually if i need something, i do my research and get the best possible item.
But apple is mostly overpriced with it's items.
I bought one 2 months ago. I love it.
Updates - I still love it - 11.08.2024 ❤❤❤
@@tuananhha how much did you pay for it...thinking about purchasing the monitor myself
@@MrTournemire4567 Euro in Germany = Monitor + Stand. I bought from eBay ❤
What's the VESA mount you're using?
That is a pretty sweet monitor! Also, it’s a business expense and a write off. 😜😁👍
Peter, I noticed my Pro Display XDR purchased and used since 2019 now has a dimmer area (near the frame) in all sides. Very noticeable with white scenes at brightness bars of 3 or less. They brightness is even throughout once pass 50% brightness. You see this with your new Pro Display XDR? Thanks for your time,
Have not noticed this on mine no!
@@PeterLindgren1 must be the age then. I have it for 5 years. Thanks
I went through 4 PDXDRs due to that vignette effect, as well as dead pixels and repeated dirty screen effect/unevenly lit display due to the 576 dimming zones. One even had the glass on skewed with glue sticking out. All out of the box. I know a few people who do pro work who couldn’t work with these issues. I was one of them.
@@tomreports1223 after 5 years, I finally noticed, Must be some change in my office lighting and seating position, But once I saw, I cannot disregard now. Hoping for Pro Display XDR 2 soon.
I purchased a new one 23 months ago and have the same issue. Vignetting and uniformity, drives me nuts. Trying to resolve it with Apple
Great business expense as a professional. Yes 5 years old but nothing compares 100%. Well Future proofed. Made well ahead of its time. Only for real professionals Thanks for the review buddy
Well, you can't expect to find a monitor, with similar specs. But are there better displays out there? Most certainly!
Hey Peter. Great video, thank you. Please let us know what monitor arm you're using with your Apple XDR Pro Display. Thank you!
is it appropriate to buy a Panasonic Lumix DC-GH5S in 2024 and is it good for night shooting and of course during the day?
It’s a great camera, unfortunately not good in low light.
@@PeterLindgren1 okay, thanks. I'll search something different))
The old monitor does not have the entire color palette, good video friend.
Köpte den (Nano) direkt när den kom ut, trodde verkligen inte att det var 5 år sedan mer 3 år sedan, tiden går snabbt :) Även om det verkligen inte finns något att klaga på kvalitetsmässigt så hade det varit riktigt nice om de kunde släppa en XDR 2 med 8K upplösning.
Håller med gällande 8k!
Det är sjukt att den fortfarande är ensam på tronen dock 😯
I think that good question would be, will that purchase increase the income to the 1/12 of price monthly
Can’t really see it that way.
It’s like comparing it to buying a NAS. Purchasing hard drives won’t necessarily generate a higher income, but it will help you to run your business more smoothly/seamless
What monitor arm are you using?
Hi Peter what your macbook pro spec?
En fantastiskt cool skärm det där. Kommer ihåg när den utannonserades, kan inte fatta att det var 5(!) år sen!
Kul att höra dina tankar kring den 😀
Ska själv skaffa en ny skärm. Har alltid använt min MPP inbyggda 16 tums skärm - och den är fantastisk. Men liiiite liten. För min del blir det nog en Apple Studio Display. Ser fram emot större arbetsyta!
I see the worth of this a monitor, I know it really worth it's price. I'm waiting (practising) the moment when my skills and revenue will match the quality and price of the monitor 😀Thanks for sharing 🙏😊
There are lots of better purchases out there.
Hey, Do you know if the Nano-textured glass effects the image quality in any way compared to the Standard glass version ?
we need to discuss the controller on your left hand. what is that?
Space mouse for 3D design
@@PeterLindgren1 Hey Peter, what is the name/brand of those tube lights on the side of your table? Great video BTW.
hur kan jag träffa dig? man bor ju lite utanför götet :)
Your verticle flip is dope!
does this monitor even work with non-apple devices? can a computer change this monitor’s colorspace?
I doubt it!
How is the name of your light bars on the desk?
Apple made this reference monitor to be cheaper than other reference monitors that cost $50,000+. That is the point of the XDR display. If you are making movies & so on this is a cheaper option with reference monitor qualities that is cheaper.
It’s not a reference monitor or even close to the quality of one. It’s not even recommended for high end production. It’s meant for like UA-camrs or other people, but not to be used for professional grade due to the numerous issues. The fact you mentioned the reference monitor part, is proof that Apple has fooled you by their marketing.
@@BadMannerKorea I'm not fooled by anything. Not everything Apple makes I like.
@@Kjaywest Except you’re referencing a reference monitor, which is exactly what Apple did when they revealed the XDR display. You believe it to be comparable and it’s not even close. That’s exactly what Apple wants. And yes, you’ve been fooled. Professionals who do color grading have tested the XDR and it’s flawed and should not be used for that type of content.
@@Kjaywest Go watch the video titled “Apple Pro Display XDR Review (vs Sony
Reference Monitor)” and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. Next time, maybe you should actually research what you say before you say it, lol.
It's not a reference monitor. Not even close! A delta E around 1.7 is not a great monitor. It also has dark edges, it only covers 73% of Rec.2020. My Asus $800 monitor can be calibrated to a delta E around 1. Far better than the Apple. A Flandern Scientific XMP310 to 0.25 and a Sony reference monitor to 0.02, if I remember correctly.
This monitor doesn't even have SDI inputs, which is essential for reference monitors.
And since he bought this $7000 monitor, then why isn't he even using it for monitoring? Editing on a cheaper display, while doing color grading on the Apple.
Peter, är det Ergotrons HX du använder?
Wait I didn't get that....Did you say this monitor is 5 years old??? 😂😂😂😂😂 Great video as always!
5:48 what’s that mouse looking thing on the left of the iPad
Space Mouse, for 3D designing
PRO DISPLAY XDR ❤
I picked this up for $2500 used 🤓
As a pro designer, I also love this monitor, but it's hard to justify a $7k investment on a 5-year-old tech. I'm hopeful Apple will have an XDR 2.0 coming maybe this year in October when they have a Mac event. Ideally, Apple would have a 30" Studio Display at half of the price of the XDR. That would be a nice move.
Earliest in 2025
Nah, make it more expensive and a larger screen. 30 inches is too small in 2024, and it should be 34-38+. If you can’t afford it, that’s your issue.
Today let's see if an upgrade launches, wwdc 10 june 2024
Hey Peter! You're still doing your fitness regime? Keep up the great content mate.
Nope, been prioritising other things this year.
Shut up, apple and take my money! 💛💛
You bought it because you can 😅 There are a lot of other options as good and sometimes better than the xdr at a lower price... The best investment is on a monitor calibrator, have been using calibrators for years...
Tell me one that does everything this does 😅?
@@PeterLindgren1 also you don't need 1000nits to work, it will burn your eye balls, recommend brightness is around 120cm/m2 which is equivalent to 120nits
@PeterLindgren1 don't get me wrong the xdr is awesome but it's not worth the price, I would consider buying it for half the price but would still consider other options... As I stated, you bought it because you can, I wish I could get a good alternative... 😉
@@DiogoReis Dude, i've worked on 120/300 nits displays, and they're incredibly bad to work at in comparison!
I know that there's other great options, but there's nothing that does everything that this does!
Dell UltraSharp 32 6K Monitor - U3224KB surpasses the XDR in many aspects for less than 1/3 of the price...
60hz bruh for this price is insane
I have never used more than 60hz in the last 5 years
varför såg jag peter i en annons?
Peter’s wrong by saying you don’t need to calibrate. If you’re going to be doing color grading in any form, you will need to calibrate it every couple weeks or so. so saying that just cause it comes calibrated out the box it doesn’t need a calibration is wrong. I’m the truth is this unit is not four color grading. It does not do 100% black you would be better off with a high-end Sony or FSI unit.
The price of a true reference monitor is several times this. It’s like saying that you shouldn’t use anything other than a Venice to film videos with 🤷🏻
@@PeterLindgren1 you deleted my comment? WTH, that's mad uncool.
@@PeterLindgren1
No need for a Master Grade Monitor like the BVM-HX3100 or Prominence. Just get the PVM-X2400 or a CG319X (which is actually cheaper than the Pro Display XDR).
And a probe is very important.
Grading without a truly calibrated display is like playing guitar without tuning it.
@@emillarson89 weird how the bulk of my most popular videos were graded on shitty displays huh 🤷🏻
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Which won’t let you know what you’re actually uploading :)
Nice vdeo i have pC its ok.
Apple is due for an 8K monitor update this fall
Still doesn’t make this monitor outdated 🤷🏻
60Hz is TUF
Don’t care about more when editing honestly 🤷🏻
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Could have been good if the display wasn't locked at 60 Hz... It is also just IPS,not impressed. 32" is quite too big too. Surely a decent reference monitor but most people will watch your videos on a cheap screen or even a TN panel for most of them. Worth the money? Probably not.
No need for more than 60hz when your video or photo editing, and again, this is a tool. IPS is great for color rendition and brightness.
It is indeed worth the money if you’re a professional at what you do.
What?? I thought it had a mini-Led panel! It is actually a IPS with 576 local dimming zones. That explains the cap at 500 nits in SDR
The DELL monitor that I have has MINI LED, I do think this is the better option tbh!
@@PeterLindgren1 strong disagree, I cannot live without 120Hz on my Macbook. Having a desktop monitor or 27"+ in front of me at 60Hz only? NO WAY. What's the point of working on a premium computer if it cannot even have smooth scrolling or motion. Even for Web browsing or coding it is critical and a very good feeling on day to day basis. So yes, you will not export 240Hz in a video, but that will be so much more pleasing to the eyes. I rather have more monitors with a high refresh rate than a bigger resolution on one and locked to 60, any day.
IPS is just inferior to OLED on any aspect. It is sure better than TN or VA, but still beaten any time. Especially in games, or good films that will showcase deep blacks and infinite contrast. With no real issues regarding burn-in either.
Accuracy is important but not a deal breaker either if you are there for 98% of the way, other quality of life things are here.
That monitor is far obsolete nowadays with Vision Pro and the freshly released Vision OS v2.
So no, this is a total worthless piece of hardware IMO.
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60 Hz no thank you.
Works great for what I do 🫡
6k, 120hz isn't currently possible with data rates I believe. Maybe thunderbolt 5 when it comes out?
You have bought this monitor, for all the wrong reasons. And this is from the view of spending 7 grand on a monitor, not based on your needs.
First of all, your monitor is color calibrated. That calibration will last the first month. After that, it's not color accurate, and it will drift more and more, over time.
Second, you bought the wrong coating. In your dark settings, you should have gone with no coating. If lights are shining onto your screens, they are placed wrong. In fact, any serious color grading should be done in an almost dark room. But ok, for editing, it doesn't matter.
And do you do color grading a lot, as well as content control? Then you should have a 4K monitor, just for monitoring the video, and not use the view in your NLE.
You also said, you need a lot of brightness. No, not for color work. Industry standard is 100-120 nits for SDR, 50-70 nits for cinema and 1000 nits for HDR. No less, no more. If you don't want to live up to these numbers, there's no need to use a $7.000 monitor.
Granted, you can do a color grading in the room with the lights you have now. You'd probably need to be around 150-200 nits then. Consistently!
You are also mentioning 10-bit display (opposed to 8+FCR). But you didn't check the coverage of the display, obviously. The XDR does 98% DCI-P3 and 73% Rec.2020. If you don't do HDR, then it's not a problem. But it's just not good enough, for a professional monitor. A Flanders Scientific XMP310 mid-to upper range grading monitor, does 1000 nits, 100% DCI-P3 coverage adn 90% BT.2020. Granted, it's a $11.000 monitor, but you can get the same coverage as the XDR, for a lower price. Much lower.
The grayscale and color delta E for your monitor, is also not on a professional level. It barely manages to get below 2, from the factory. I have a new Asus $800 monitor, meant for game developers. It manages a delta E calibrated, at around 1. It's an 8bit+FCR display. The Flanders measure calibrated to around 0.25. So, my Asus measures better than your 10-bit panel.
Cool, lets just say that the 800 monitor is better than this 🫡.
@PeterLindgren1 That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying you're using your monitor the wrong way.
Mine is a 2K 32", the ppi is too low, like if I look closely, I can see individual pixels. It's a 600 nits HDR, so not "real" HDR. It's a 165Hz display, meant for game devs, so they can have both color accuracy and high refresh rate. It has obvious issues on the edges, on a black screen. Probably worse, than the XDR. The screen is also not uniform.
The thing is, I can accept the flaws, and I don't care. Because it suits my needs. I don't ever notice the flaws, other than when I test the display.
But you bought a hugely expensive display and are using it for the wrong reasons/the wrong way. That's my point. The way you use it, you could have gotten something far cheaper, and not notice any difference, BECAUSE you are not taking advantage of your monitor's features and capabilities.
This is a 6K monitor, 1000 bits sustained brightness, 10 bit, flips to vertical (together with the OS) when editing content for instagram, matte screen for when my rim lights shines at it & my panels are lit up. Supports HDR, works flawlessly for video editing and supports thunderbolt.
There’s so many things that’s WAY better than a lot of monitors, and this is coming from someone that has used $200, $1000, $4000, and $7000 monitors.
@@PeterLindgren1 You just don't get it.
No matter if you had the XDR, a Flandern Scientific XMP310 ($11.000), or a Sony BVM-HX3110 (~$35.000), my critique would be almost the same. You are not using your monitor at all, like a pro display for video editing and color grading should be used.
One thing that would still stand, is, that the XDR is no match for pro displays, and that there are other monitors on the market, that can do just as well. Even for less.
Let's first check if Apple's claims holds water. Min. nits tested by a pro calibrator is around 1,7 nits. Max. peak brightness 1600 nits. I'll let that slide, although such a claim should come with a specification, e.g. 1600 nits in a 2%, 10% or 25% window. But hey, other manufacturers do the same.
So, 1600 / 1,7 = 941,17 contrast ratio. Not 1.000.000:1 as Apple specifies. At least the Flandern can go to 0,25 nits and the Sony to 0,004 nits in HDR. Both do +1000 nits peak.
Didn't bother translating this. It's from Apple's site, and I'm sure you can kind of read it (Danish).
XDR. Ekstremt dynamisk område. Den kontrast mellem lysstyrke og mørke, som dine øjne er i stand til at se, er utrolig svær at gengive på en skærm. Derfor er High Dynamic Range (HDR) blevet udviklet. Den banebrydende teknologi til baggrundsbelysning betyder, at lysstyrke, kontrast og farve når helt nye højder med Pro Display XDR. Det er langt mere end HDR - det er Extreme Dynamic Range (XDR).
So, Apple invented a new term - XDR - although their "Pro" display can only do less than 1000:1 CR.
I already mentioned the poor Rec.2020 performance, so no need to go there again.
Let's see what Asus can do.
ASUS ProArt Display PA32UCXR
Price: $2,699,- at B&H Photo.
3840 * 2160 resolution
1600 nits peak/1000 nits sustained.
built-in colorimeter and auto calibration. Factory calibrated (so was my $800 monitor btw.)
True 10-bit panel.
99% Adobe RGB, 97% DCI-P3 and 85% Rec.2020
Delta E < 1 color accuracy
2304 local dimming zones (XDR has 576)
HDR-10, HLG, Dolby Vision
It does as good or better, than the XDR.
I don't think you will, but you should watch a review of the XDR, from a professional calibrator. ua-cam.com/video/rtd7UzLJHrU/v-deo.html
@@akyhne Ok, i guess you know my work better than me haha! Anyway, hope you're happy with your monitor, i'm happy with mine!
Why? simple... to write off and get it free after tax return 😂😂
You never get anything for free lol. Tax return is only 25% of the price 🤷🏻