Fun fact: I chose to cover the worst modern offense ever (SB era), but the 1942 Detroit Lions actually had a worse offense. QB ratio of 1 TD to 33 INT’s. 3.5 points per game. Their top 2 quarterbacks actually had negative yards per pass attempt due to throwing almost as many INT’s (23) as completions (33). In a 42-0 loss, the Lions committed 12 turnovers on 50 offensive plays.
Maybe not his best but this is his most prophetic. "We will be back. Maybe not this century, but we will be back and we will be a better football team.”
And there was nothing to indicate Archie was even any good at the NFL level. He was a hyped college player, but a complete failure even when he had supreme talent like Wes Chandler and Chuck Muncie.
Ain'ts. The fans -- the few who went to the games -- wore bags over their heads back in the mid-70's. So for Manning to say losing to the Bucs would be embarrassing had even deeper meaning.
John McKay was a blessing. He had some great quotes. He was on the sideline once, and said "we can run, or pass. Other than that, we're in great shape." Steve Spurrier was also the starting QB for the 76 Bucs.
@@slb6932: Talk about an uninspiring and horrible coach: treats you like shit, calls his players derogatory names, denies water breaks (an absolute necessity in high intensity activity and w/o enough of it you're inviting injuries), drills them to the point of being on the edge of injuries, etc. It sounds like the Bucs sucked because of his coaching philosophy.
@@NibblesTheNibblerhe's a college HoF coach and took the Bucs to 4 playoff runs. And broke racial barriers by being the first to lobby for and draft black QBs It was the Abysmal owner Culverhouse that caused the 0-26 Bucs. Not McKay. USC and Ex-Bucs players loved him
You should do a video on the 1-15 2009 rams. They were worse than the 2008 Lions and the 2017 Browns, but no one remembers them because they didn't go winless. In the 16 game era, they averaged less than 11 points per game.
Doesn't really matter how many points the defense gives up on average when the offense gets shut out that often and when they do score it was usually a FG.
We Floridians really suffered back then, but were loyal to the Bucs. Coach McKay had the best one liners of all time though. BTW - I like the old, Pirate logo and the creamsicle uniforms.
Fun fact, in the same year, the falcons had the best defense in terms of points allowed EVER, and these falcons squared off against the bucs in 77, meaning that the worst offense in history went against the best defense in history, the bucs lost 0-17. (The falcons also had a dreadful offense that season, despite having the best defense ever, they missed the playoffs and finished 7-7.
Long time Bucs fan here who painfully remembers the first 2 seasons. Lots of comments to add ... 1. QB Baryla (sp?) had set all kinds of NCAA records at Stanford. However in the pre-season for seasons 1 and 2, he suffered serious injuries which kept him out of both regular seasons. In fact the second injury ended his NFL career before it began. 2. The Bucs could have won the game against the Dolphins in Season 1 but they had a total meltdown in the last minute. QB Spurrier threw a perfect pass to wide open Bucs receiver in the end zone who apparently was so surprised to see a catchable pass, he froze and the ball bounced off his chest. They could have tied the game with a field goal but the kicker missed an easy chip shot. 3. While the Bucs started out at 0-26, the Chicago Cardinals went 0-29 from 1942 to 1944, but because they combined with the Steelers in 1943 to be the Pitt-Cards, their consecutive loss record is often overlooked. 4. QB Huff was a decent quarterback but he needed 3 to 4 seconds to locate a receiver and throw the pass and the offensive line could only give him 2 to 3 seconds of protection. That's why he threw so many picks. 5. In season 2, none of the NFC teams wanted to be the first team to lose to the Bucs, so they treated their game against the Bucs as if it were a playoff game. Even so, there were some close games where even a little offense could have won the game. Against the Vikings, they were leading 3-2 well into the 4th quarter before the Vikings eked out a TD to win 9-3. 6. Doug Williams was successful as Bucs QB because he could scramble and throw accurately on the run, thus negating the need for an effective offensive line. When he was injured in Season 3 Week 11, backup QB Rae went 0-5 as a starter because he was sacked or forced to throw too soon.
John McKay held a press conference where he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a bunch of bananas," so someone had a crate of bananas delivered to his home. At the next press conference he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a Mercedes-Benz."
So I’ve been watching KTO since 2017 and this is very cool for me because Gary Huff happens to be my grandfather.. One thing I would like to mention that wasn’t brought up in the video: Huff was injured against Green Bay ;the clip is actually @ 8:35. The video begins to mentions his return and then their lack of offensive production after the Seattle game but fails to mention that he did not play in 4 of those five games. As terrible as that season was when my grandfather returned from injury they were able to get their last two wins against New Orleans and Saint Louis. I’m not saying that this was some world class offense and I can reassure my grandfather wouldn’t say that either. Nevertheless I wanted to clear up a few things. Keep up with the great content! From one creator to another.
This is pretty cool to see this comment. I realize that when covering a topic as a whole that sometimes I miss little details like this. I hope you still enjoyed the video!
I very much enjoyed it! I believe that you and FlemoRaps are by far the best UA-camrs to cover NFL/ college football content. You’ve always done an amazing job covering multiple sides of a story in a short amount of time. You’re editing style is also fantastic. Rather it be the transitions, narration style, or your background music it’s always been very well crafted! Your content has always been very positive when most sports media focuses on the negatives. If it wasn’t for your channel I would’ve never taken an interest in leagues like USFL, I would’ve never became a fan of Herschel Walker, and overall would’ve not grown in appreciation for multiple generations of football. It’s also very cool for me hearing from one of my favorite contact creators. Keep up the great work!
For those that remember, the Broncos of the 60s had second hand uniforms! Used a wide receiver as QB and actually played better! Didn’t practice, just meandered around for an hour or so then went home! Used a round top shed as their headquarters! They did manage to win a few games but I still love em!
They turned it around in their 5th year. John Mackay said _"I always told the front office that I had a 5 year plan"._ then whispered _"That's because I had a 5 year contract. If I had 6 year contract then I would've had a 6 year plan"!_ Everybody loved him
Just to clear up some confusion over something in this video which is accurate, but many think is wrong. When the expansion announcement was made, the league said Seattle would be in the AFC West and Tampa in the NFC Central... starting in year two. Their first season would have Seattle in the NFC West and Tampa in the AFC West.
Now both teams are in the NFC. (Seattle Seahawks in NFC West) (Tampa Bay Buccaneers in NFC South) The NFC South was created in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL as an expansion franchise, causing a division realignment. The NFC Central was renamed the NFC North, and the same for the AFC Central becoming the AFC North, along with the creation of two new South divisions for each conference.
Randy Hedberg has actually had a pretty decent career for himself as a quarterback coach. He's currently at D1 FCS school North Dakota State, where he's worked with a number of solid quarterbacks, including Trey Lance. Hedberg's NFL career may have not been great, but at least he found a place in the sport as a quarterbacks coach.
Hard to be an expansion team back in the day. There's a good book that elaborates on Tampa's earliest days (with some funny stories), The Yucks! (by Jason Vuic).
1976 was either a great defensive year or a poor offensive year pretty much all around. Joe Namath started 8 games and had a 4-16 TD-INT ratio that year!
Randy Hedberg would eventually become quarterbacks coach at North Dakota State University where he produced some of the best college QB's. Five different QB's won national titles and three of them would be drafted in the NFL, two of them in the first 3 picks in the first round. All around good guy, just didn't work out in the NFL
This was brilliant, blast from the past. I was at the first home win against the Cards. The fans rushed the field and tore down the goalpost like it was a college game!
Actually the Seattle Seahawks joined the AFC West, the Buccaneers started in the NFC Central. When the NFL realigned the league from 3 divisions to 4 divisions in each conference the Seahawks landed in the NFC West, the Bucs in the NFC South.
What's CRAZY is the super fast turnaround for the Bucs after their first two miserable seasons. In 1979, they made it all the way to hosting the NFCC game. The Rams beat them 9-0 in a game that was played in a monsoon type downpour. It very well could've been Tampa vs Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl that year.
For context I think you have to call this The Most Miserable Offense in Modern History. You could go back to 1930s, 1940s and 1950s to find at least one team with worst numbers. For example, the 1943 Brooklyn Football Dodgers scored 65 points in 10 games which was less per game than Tampa and got shut out 5 times in 10 games. They averaged 61 yards a game rushing and 97 passing.
I remember going to see a home game the opening season with my dad. Even though the Dolphins were all the rage in my area I became a fan instantly. I always told my friends during 70's 80's and even 90's they were gonna be super bowl champions some day. I always got laughed at. It took a while but I finally got a little satisfaction.
I haven't watched all of your videos (yet), but the ones I have seen end on a high note. Considering the topic, through the first 12 and a half minutes, I wasn't sure if that was gonna be possible this time. But you somehow found a way. Keep up the good work, yall!
KTO sometimes makes videos about things I never thought/cared about, and I still always watch his videos until the end. Kudos KTO for putting out such interesting content.
I'm disappointed that "why not, Minot" isn't famous. That was a fan chant heard many times during the season because he was at least liked by the fans.
I 'tried' being a fan of the Bucs in those years, we had just moved to the Tampa Bay area in 76 and in 10th grade the excitement never came, I mean zero moments from any plays to be excited about. But it helped getting Leroy Selmon. The man was every bit of what we enjoy from Brockers today.
I had the complete opposite experience, I was living in Longview WA in the late 70s', and became a fan of the Seahawks very early on. They had a terrible defense but they hand Zorn and Largent and would do trick plays. They had no problem airing out the ball and in order to stay in games they had to try to outscore their opponent, so games were always fun to watch even if the team lost in those early years. After the Seahawks won the Superbowl people would talk about bandwagon fans, but that was fine with me, I jumped on the bandwagon in the late seventies and have been on every since, even in the late eighties early nighties when they were just terrible.
@@RICHIEV333 Absolutely, I always remember the late west coast games would be playing and the Seahawks were never featured. But the late game always featured the great break-in highlights of Zorn to Largent were pretty much routine. And would be so happy to have something like that going on in the Bucs organization. Then in 1983 - 85 I got orders to go to McChord AFB in Washington and got to see Zorn to Largent every weekend still along with Paul Scansi, Brian Blades, Kenny Easley playing their hearts out. They were exciting to watch and very creative under Chuck Knox. Positive Years to be watching football and watching the Hawks.
Fun fact about Make Boryla: He made the 1975 Pro Bowl with 6 Touchdowns, 12 interceptions and 996 passing yards. Only reason why he made the Pro Bowl was because nearly 10+ NFC QBs said No to the Pro Bowl and the NFL just wanted somebody and Mike said sure.
Bay Area native, I remember all too well! I was in the stands for the first ever playoff win, 24-17 over the Iggles. Thanks for the memories both good and bad.
I've seen some mention of the 1995 and 1996 Jets who were a combined 4-28, pretty horrendous under Clueless Kotite. They did have talent though on offense with Keyshawn, Chrebet, Adrian Murrell and once Parcells brought in Testaverde (he went from 13 TD, 35 INT Interecept-A-Verde to the 29 TD, 7 INT version) to take over for inconsistent and overpaid Neil O'Donnell we went from 9-7 (last O'Donnell season) to 12-4 and a crushing AFC Championship Game loss to Denver. The point to all this is that we had some good offensive players on 95 and 96 teams that were able to flourish just a few years later under a better coached regime.
I've only even heard of Minot State because of the glorious CFB data warehouse. May it rest in peace. Also, you have an amazing ability to string me along. I _hate_ the bucs, but I was still looking forward to that saints game.
To set the record straight,, though the Bucs were the worst for the first few seasons ; they were never a part of the AFC. For the first several years , they were part of the NFC Central, with the Bears & Packers.
I'm old enough to remember the 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It was so bad that they were talked about on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and the TV sitcom "What's Happening" when Dwayne placed a bet on them against the Oakland Raiders.
In fairness to the Seahawks and Buccaneers, the 1976 Expansion Draft rules probably did not favor them that much. All the other teams can protect 29 players, and after someone was picked from their team, they can protect two more, and each team can lose no more than 3 players, so if both the Seahawks and Buccaneers picked a combined number of 3 players from one team, that's it. The result was that both teams end up with a lot of backup players or practice squad fodder. Not to mention having an inexperienced front office needing to make the team gel together within six months, this is a task that even experienced head coaches and GMs struggle. On a side note, the expansion draft was supposed to take place in January, but both expansion team owners got into a lawsuit with the players' union, which delayed the draft by 2 months. Maybe it would not have made a difference, but with two additional months, you think team cohesion would have been better?
All you had to know about Tampa Bay's quarterbacking in 1977 was that they had to rely on a Bears' castoff, Gary Huff, to be their main signal caller. On a somewhat different note, I am surprised you did not include Coach McKay's famous crack when a writer asked him that season, "What about the team's execution?" McKay replied, "I wouldn't be opposed to it."
The Seahawks were originally in the AFC West, when the Jags and Panthers were inaugurated the NFL moved the Seahawks to the NFL North. I played for McKay in college and he was a monster. I was living in Tampa when there were bumper stickers reading, "Throw McKay in the bay.". When the Bucs won their first game, the city went wild, tearing down the goalposts, etc.
The Bucs had turned it around with Doug Williams. When it was time to give him the money he deserved, the bucs said no. Williams walked and the bucs went back to sucksville.
Solid stuff. It was kind of gruesome watching the videos of 1976 tackles and seeing the stats throughout. Pretty sure Blount performed a suplex on that green concrete. Idgaf if they were plumbers, no one is pile driving Odell into SoFi. I felt the CTE just by watching.
Growing up a Falcons fan, my favorite memory of this era is that I always looked forward to the Falcons playing the Saints and the Buccaneers because it always meant easy wins. That's why I was not surprised that New Orleans was the first to lose to them. Surprised that the Bucs first QB, Steve Spurrier, didn't get a mention. He was the only hope that team had on offense that first season. You also failed to mention that the coach's son was made the primary wide receiver over all others who were far better. One thing the Bucs had going for them back then was they had the coolest uniforms and the coolest logo. Now they got the ugliest behind the Patriots.
As a Lifelong Bucs fan, attended all Home Games in 76 & 77, since my Uncle was on those teams, U forgot to mention a few key moments in the video. 1)Owner Culverhouse was a tight ass with spending. 2)Other NFL teams were allowed to protect their best players from the Expansion Draft. 3)John McKay was not a good GM AT ALL.
One of my favorite NFL quotes: Jack Lambert after the Steelers 42-0 win over the Bucs, 12/5/76, "I don't think they would've scored if we'd played 'til Wednesday."
3-4 yrs to the playoffs isn’t bad, Back in the late 80s I think we figured the Bucs would need to go 10-6 for 20 yrs to get even on wins-losses They eventually got a super bowl ring. Good for them
John McKay had a great quote at a press conference after a game. He was asked what he thought of his team's execution. His reply: "I would be in favor of it."
The drafting of Lee Roy Selmon - who is hands down one of the GREATEST defensive lineman in NFL history turned around the whole franchise. That and Doug Williams playing QB.
A lot of people are unaware that the Carolina Panthers started out in the NFC West. They competed with the Rams, 49ers, Saints and Falcons. Yeah, the Saints and the Falcons were also in the NFC West and for the longest time, too. I know because I was there to see them play. 3/5's of the teams playing in the NFC Western division were actually located east of the Mississippi River.
0:47 It's such a trip you put Carillon Point in the video. I was just thinking about my oldest memory of Kirkland, Wa today. My dad played on the Seahawks and he took me to practice when I was about 6. 1977 season the year after this. This was my view from the 2nd floor of the facility when I watched him practice. So weird I saw this today. They tore the facility down and moved down the lake. Bill Gates office is there now.
Yes, most of us who remember watching the Buccaneers during their first two seasons, all we can remember is that they lost their first 26 games. But as stated at the end of the video, the team made it all the way to the conference final in just their 4th season. How many other teams can make that claim? Doug Williams would go on to win a Super Bowl with the Redskins eight years later.
After watching this, I think it’s amazing how the panthers and jags both got to their respective conf championship games at the same time in their 2nd year of existence.
A lot this issue where small market teams couldn’t compete with due to the NFL not having a salary cap until the mid-90s, which led to big market teams stacking their team’s with nothing but Hall of Fame players, which, when teams like the New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay, Buccaneers struggle for years.
I remember this well and I don't think the horrible stats the Bucs' compiled in their early existence will ever be matched. It is a good thing that coach McKay had a good sense of humor :)
I was in college in the fall of 1976, I remember that season, and I didn’t remember that Tampa Bay was originally an AFC team!! My favorite squad, the Eagles, were also pretty bad in 1976….
Good video. The comparison with the 1974 Falcons is apt - and you can make a case the 1974 Falcons were worse, as they weren't a 2nd year expansion team.
I remember that game in '76, when they played each other. I was 6 years old, but already a big football fan. Everyone called that game "The Toilet Bowl."
The thing thats especially important to point out between those expansion teams, Seattle's HC was known for essentially using 4 downs in order to move the ball. I mean, you're already a undertalented team, having to use players that wouldve otherwise been cut from other NFL rosters at the time, as an expansion. What do you have to lose? They'd do fake field goals, punts, aggressive passes, whatever it took to scrape out wins those first few crucial years. Making it exciting for fans and a reason to see games. For Tampa to not even find a way to scrape out a win or two in a similar fashion still feels mind boggling to me.
Fun fact: I chose to cover the worst modern offense ever (SB era), but the 1942 Detroit Lions actually had a worse offense.
QB ratio of 1 TD to 33 INT’s.
3.5 points per game.
Their top 2 quarterbacks actually had negative yards per pass attempt due to throwing almost as many INT’s (23) as completions (33).
In a 42-0 loss, the Lions committed 12 turnovers on 50 offensive plays.
Ouch
Yeah well in 1942 you would expect someone to play like that lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Petermeme couldn't even dream of throwing that many picks
Who else but the Lions 💀
I would expect nothing more from the Detroit lions🤣🤣
The bright spot was McKay’s sense of humor: “We weren’t blocking. But we made up for it by not tackling.”
I’m older than the entire team
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Maybe not his best but this is his most prophetic. "We will be back. Maybe not this century, but we will be back and we will be a better football team.”
"What do you think of your teams execution coach?"
"I'm in favor of it."
"Can you imagine watching your team only score an offensive touchdown once every 3 games?" Yes I can. Go Giants
Was going to say, sounds like the Shitcago Bears. 🐻 ⬇️🧻🚽
Go giants on our way to a four game win season again 😭
Me with Washington.
@@christian-lf2oc 3-1 boys. You should be proud:)
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Well, they beat Archie Manning's Saints, but the Saints at that time literally had one good player: Archie Manning.
And there was nothing to indicate Archie was even any good at the NFL level. He was a hyped college player, but a complete failure even when he had supreme talent like Wes Chandler and Chuck Muncie.
@@ckobo84 If Archie Manning had been drafted by the Steelers he would have won 4 Super Bowls
Archie Manning wasn’t even good.
Ain'ts. The fans -- the few who went to the games -- wore bags over their heads back in the mid-70's. So for Manning to say losing to the Bucs would be embarrassing had even deeper meaning.
Their other win was against the Cardinals, who were so humiliated they had to move out of St. Louis.
John McKay was a blessing. He had some great quotes. He was on the sideline once, and said "we can run, or pass. Other than that, we're in great shape."
Steve Spurrier was also the starting QB for the 76 Bucs.
Here's one. Once a reporter asked McKay what he thought of his teams execution and McKay said "I'm in favor of it" 😆
@@slb6932: Talk about an uninspiring and horrible coach: treats you like shit, calls his players derogatory names, denies water breaks (an absolute necessity in high intensity activity and w/o enough of it you're inviting injuries), drills them to the point of being on the edge of injuries, etc. It sounds like the Bucs sucked because of his coaching philosophy.
@@slb6932 he also said they couldn't do anything offense, but we made up for it on defense by not tackling. He was hilarious.
@@slb6932 That was the classic McKay-ism that I thought of when I came across this video. 😆
@@NibblesTheNibblerhe's a college HoF coach and took the Bucs to 4 playoff runs. And broke racial barriers by being the first to lobby for and draft black QBs
It was the Abysmal owner Culverhouse that caused the 0-26 Bucs. Not McKay. USC and Ex-Bucs players loved him
You should do a video on the 1-15 2009 rams. They were worse than the 2008 Lions and the 2017 Browns, but no one remembers them because they didn't go winless. In the 16 game era, they averaged less than 11 points per game.
I remember feeling bad for Steven Jackson because he had to play for the Rams. Oh, kid logic is great, isn't it?
2007 Dolphins too
Was Zach Wilson also the QB?
Of course the lions were those rams 1 win
Wow imagine only giving up 16 points a game and only winning once. I’d be fighting the guys on offense for wasting my life
You'd like to think you would...
Doesn't really matter how many points the defense gives up on average when the offense gets shut out that often and when they do score it was usually a FG.
@@executenwordusers no shit moron
@@borger99 moron? Thank you..I'll take that as a compliment.....I hope you.get better!!! Have a nice day.
You don’t have a life
We Floridians really suffered back then, but were loyal to the Bucs. Coach McKay had the best one liners of all time though. BTW - I like the old, Pirate logo and the creamsicle uniforms.
"We went through 8 QBs..."
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@@KR0TE7 I think we went through 17 different QBs since super bowl 50🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮
Fun fact, in the same year, the falcons had the best defense in terms of points allowed EVER, and these falcons squared off against the bucs in 77, meaning that the worst offense in history went against the best defense in history, the bucs lost 0-17. (The falcons also had a dreadful offense that season, despite having the best defense ever, they missed the playoffs and finished 7-7.
Where’s the “fun” part?
Long time Bucs fan here who painfully remembers the first 2 seasons. Lots of comments to add ...
1. QB Baryla (sp?) had set all kinds of NCAA records at Stanford. However in the pre-season for seasons 1 and 2, he suffered serious injuries which kept him out of both regular seasons. In fact the second injury ended his NFL career before it began.
2. The Bucs could have won the game against the Dolphins in Season 1 but they had a total meltdown in the last minute. QB Spurrier threw a perfect pass to wide open Bucs receiver in the end zone who apparently was so surprised to see a catchable pass, he froze and the ball bounced off his chest. They could have tied the game with a field goal but the kicker missed an easy chip shot.
3. While the Bucs started out at 0-26, the Chicago Cardinals went 0-29 from 1942 to 1944, but because they combined with the Steelers in 1943 to be the Pitt-Cards, their consecutive loss record is often overlooked.
4. QB Huff was a decent quarterback but he needed 3 to 4 seconds to locate a receiver and throw the pass and the offensive line could only give him 2 to 3 seconds of protection. That's why he threw so many picks.
5. In season 2, none of the NFC teams wanted to be the first team to lose to the Bucs, so they treated their game against the Bucs as if it were a playoff game. Even so, there were some close games where even a little offense could have won the game. Against the Vikings, they were leading 3-2 well into the 4th quarter before the Vikings eked out a TD to win 9-3.
6. Doug Williams was successful as Bucs QB because he could scramble and throw accurately on the run, thus negating the need for an effective offensive line. When he was injured in Season 3 Week 11, backup QB Rae went 0-5 as a starter because he was sacked or forced to throw too soon.
Bruh moment
John McKay held a press conference where he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a bunch of bananas," so someone had a crate of bananas delivered to his home. At the next press conference he said, "you reporters wouldn't know a football from a Mercedes-Benz."
So I’ve been watching KTO since 2017 and this is very cool for me because Gary Huff happens to be my grandfather..
One thing I would like to mention that wasn’t brought up in the video:
Huff was injured against Green Bay ;the clip is actually @ 8:35. The video begins to mentions his return and then their lack of offensive production after the Seattle game but fails to mention that he did not play in 4 of those five games. As terrible as that season was when my grandfather returned from injury they were able to get their last two wins against New Orleans and Saint Louis. I’m not saying that this was some world class offense and I can reassure my grandfather wouldn’t say that either. Nevertheless I wanted to clear up a few things.
Keep up with the great content! From one creator to another.
This is pretty cool to see this comment. I realize that when covering a topic as a whole that sometimes I miss little details like this. I hope you still enjoyed the video!
I very much enjoyed it! I believe that you and FlemoRaps are by far the best UA-camrs to cover NFL/ college football content. You’ve always done an amazing job covering multiple sides of a story in a short amount of time. You’re editing style is also fantastic. Rather it be the transitions, narration style, or your background music it’s always been very well crafted!
Your content has always been very positive when most sports media focuses on the negatives. If it wasn’t for your channel I would’ve never taken an interest in leagues like USFL, I would’ve never became a fan of Herschel Walker, and overall would’ve not grown in appreciation for multiple generations of football. It’s also very cool for me hearing from one of my favorite contact creators. Keep up the great work!
For those that remember, the Broncos of the 60s had second hand uniforms! Used a wide receiver as QB and actually played better! Didn’t practice, just meandered around for an hour or so then went home! Used a round top shed as their headquarters! They did manage to win a few games but I still love em!
They turned it around in their 5th year. John Mackay said _"I always told the front office that I had a 5 year plan"._ then whispered _"That's because I had a 5 year contract. If I had 6 year contract then I would've had a 6 year plan"!_
Everybody loved him
Just to clear up some confusion over something in this video which is accurate, but many think is wrong.
When the expansion announcement was made, the league said Seattle would be in the AFC West and Tampa in the NFC Central... starting in year two. Their first season would have Seattle in the NFC West and Tampa in the AFC West.
Now both teams are in the NFC.
(Seattle Seahawks in NFC West)
(Tampa Bay Buccaneers in NFC South)
The NFC South was created in 2002 when the Houston Texans joined the NFL as an expansion franchise, causing a division realignment.
The NFC Central was renamed the NFC North, and the same for the AFC Central becoming the AFC North, along with the creation of two new South divisions for each conference.
Who thinks it’s wrong?
Randy Hedberg has actually had a pretty decent career for himself as a quarterback coach. He's currently at D1 FCS school North Dakota State, where he's worked with a number of solid quarterbacks, including Trey Lance. Hedberg's NFL career may have not been great, but at least he found a place in the sport as a quarterbacks coach.
Hard to be an expansion team back in the day. There's a good book that elaborates on Tampa's earliest days (with some funny stories), The Yucks! (by Jason Vuic).
1976 was either a great defensive year or a poor offensive year pretty much all around. Joe Namath started 8 games and had a 4-16 TD-INT ratio that year!
Namath was so washed up by then it wasn't funny. He should have retired in 1974 or so. He was done by '76.
That pass at 13:32 was pretty dope. Love watching plays like that.
Yeah he was sitting down and threw a fade route. Defensive coordinator had to be pissed.
My first NFL game I ever watched was the 1979 NFC Championship game when I was 9 years old. I've been a Buccaneers fan ever since.
that was a very, very sad game 😥
@3:44 is one of the coolest hats ever. Desperately want that hat
Randy Hedberg would eventually become quarterbacks coach at North Dakota State University where he produced some of the best college QB's. Five different QB's won national titles and three of them would be drafted in the NFL, two of them in the first 3 picks in the first round. All around good guy, just didn't work out in the NFL
Been a BUCS fan for 25 years...still going strong
A fan that never knew those lean years. Lucky you.
@@kryer981nah he was a cowboys fan before that 😂
Coming from a 28yo generational pats fan
This was brilliant, blast from the past. I was at the first home win against the Cards. The fans rushed the field and tore down the goalpost like it was a college game!
I was there too in the nosebleed section!
I remember the Seahawks team from 1992. They let Dave Kreig go and went with Kelly Stouffer and Dan McGwire at QB.
That was just awful 😣.
I remember Dan McGwire at San Diego State, 6'7" or so and a pretty good QB... but that sure did not transfer to the NFL lol. He was terrible.
@@RICHIEV333 tallest qb in nfl history
Stoffer was gone after 92'
Rick Mirer #2 pick came in 93' McGuire left after 94'
Stan Gelbaugh was also in that time line.
Actually the Seattle Seahawks joined the AFC West, the Buccaneers started in the NFC Central. When the NFL realigned the league from 3 divisions to 4 divisions in each conference the Seahawks landed in the NFC West, the Bucs in the NFC South.
What's CRAZY is the super fast turnaround for the Bucs after their first two miserable seasons. In 1979, they made it all the way to hosting the NFCC game. The Rams beat them 9-0 in a game that was played in a monsoon type downpour. It very well could've been Tampa vs Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl that year.
For context I think you have to call this The Most Miserable Offense in Modern History. You could go back to 1930s, 1940s and 1950s to find at least one team with worst numbers. For example, the 1943 Brooklyn Football Dodgers scored 65 points in 10 games which was less per game than Tampa and got shut out 5 times in 10 games. They averaged 61 yards a game rushing and 97 passing.
This channel makes learning history enjoyable. I find myself really into videos that have nothing to do with my team.
I remember going to see a home game the opening season with my dad. Even though the Dolphins were all the rage in my area I became a fan instantly. I always told my friends during 70's 80's and even 90's they were gonna be super bowl champions some day. I always got laughed at. It took a while but I finally got a little satisfaction.
I haven't watched all of your videos (yet), but the ones I have seen end on a high note. Considering the topic, through the first 12 and a half minutes, I wasn't sure if that was gonna be possible this time. But you somehow found a way. Keep up the good work, yall!
KTO sometimes makes videos about things I never thought/cared about, and I still always watch his videos until the end. Kudos KTO for putting out such interesting content.
The way he says “Bad Bunny” in the seat geek ad killed me lmaooo
Should’ve watched the Giants offense last season. Running a QB Sneak on your opponent’s 1 yard line was brutal
Damn, Seattle has done some bouncing around. At 46 years old, they have jumped conferences Twice. Since the merger, has any other team done that?
In the early 90s the bucs were in the nfc central and the Seahawks were in the afc west. Now the Seahawks are nfc west and the bucs nfc south
This video was obviously posted before the Broncos/Colts game of week 5, 2022.
I'm disappointed that "why not, Minot" isn't famous. That was a fan chant heard many times during the season because he was at least liked by the fans.
This is a great video! Thanks, KTO
The 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense is the type of offense that guys like Bill Belichick would LOVE TO HAVE!!!!!
I 'tried' being a fan of the Bucs in those years, we had just moved to the Tampa Bay area in 76 and in 10th grade the excitement never came, I mean zero moments from any plays to be excited about. But it helped getting Leroy Selmon. The man was every bit of what we enjoy from Brockers today.
I had the complete opposite experience, I was living in Longview WA in the late 70s', and became a fan of the Seahawks very early on. They had a terrible defense but they hand Zorn and Largent and would do trick plays. They had no problem airing out the ball and in order to stay in games they had to try to outscore their opponent, so games were always fun to watch even if the team lost in those early years.
After the Seahawks won the Superbowl people would talk about bandwagon fans, but that was fine with me, I jumped on the bandwagon in the late seventies and have been on every since, even in the late eighties early nighties when they were just terrible.
@@RICHIEV333 Absolutely, I always remember the late west coast games would be playing and the Seahawks were never featured. But the late game always featured the great break-in highlights of Zorn to Largent were pretty much routine. And would be so happy to have something like that going on in the Bucs organization. Then in 1983 - 85 I got orders to go to McChord AFB in Washington and got to see Zorn to Largent every weekend still along with Paul Scansi, Brian Blades, Kenny Easley playing their hearts out. They were exciting to watch and very creative under Chuck Knox. Positive Years to be watching football and watching the Hawks.
Damn dude, a video about the 2023 New England Patriots from 2022? Amazing
Fun fact about Make Boryla: He made the 1975 Pro Bowl with 6 Touchdowns, 12 interceptions and 996 passing yards. Only reason why he made the Pro Bowl was because nearly 10+ NFC QBs said No to the Pro Bowl and the NFL just wanted somebody and Mike said sure.
And the pro bowl MVP went to a member of the losing team.
@@Rockhound6165 Yeah, the returner Billy Johnson
@@wholesomecomment45 Billy "White Shoes" Johnson, let's put the proper respecK on his name.
Bay Area native, I remember all too well! I was in the stands for the first ever playoff win, 24-17 over the Iggles. Thanks for the memories both good and bad.
I've seen some mention of the 1995 and 1996 Jets who were a combined 4-28, pretty horrendous under Clueless Kotite. They did have talent though on offense with Keyshawn, Chrebet, Adrian Murrell and once Parcells brought in Testaverde (he went from 13 TD, 35 INT Interecept-A-Verde to the 29 TD, 7 INT version) to take over for inconsistent and overpaid Neil O'Donnell we went from 9-7 (last O'Donnell season) to 12-4 and a crushing AFC Championship Game loss to Denver. The point to all this is that we had some good offensive players on 95 and 96 teams that were able to flourish just a few years later under a better coached regime.
My step dad went to see them at that winning game as a kid and he has been a fan since.
I am from North Dakota, and i gotta say, i am proud of Randy for copping a spot on the bucs, thats funny as hell.
I’m watching MNF and they have the ambulance on the field. Never seen this. We can just pray he’s okay.
I've only even heard of Minot State because of the glorious CFB data warehouse. May it rest in peace.
Also, you have an amazing ability to string me along. I _hate_ the bucs, but I was still looking forward to that saints game.
13:33 okay that TD pass after he fell on the ground was pretty awesome 😂😂
To set the record straight,, though the Bucs were the worst for the first few seasons ; they were never a part of the AFC. For the first several years , they were part of the NFC Central, with the Bears & Packers.
This is probably one of the reasons why we got the 1978 rule changes. They really opened up future NFL passing games.
The rule changes in 1978 was because of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense
I'd forgotten that TB was in the AFC west for one season... lol.
Being on the field that often and only giving up 15 points per game is extremely impressive
4:24 you know your team is bad when karsten curses at the number on knee surgeries your players needed
I'm old enough to remember the 1977 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It was so bad that they were talked about on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and the TV sitcom "What's Happening" when Dwayne placed a bet on them against the Oakland Raiders.
Man this is a great video! Thanks for this and the great commentary!
In fairness to the Seahawks and Buccaneers, the 1976 Expansion Draft rules probably did not favor them that much. All the other teams can protect 29 players, and after someone was picked from their team, they can protect two more, and each team can lose no more than 3 players, so if both the Seahawks and Buccaneers picked a combined number of 3 players from one team, that's it. The result was that both teams end up with a lot of backup players or practice squad fodder. Not to mention having an inexperienced front office needing to make the team gel together within six months, this is a task that even experienced head coaches and GMs struggle.
On a side note, the expansion draft was supposed to take place in January, but both expansion team owners got into a lawsuit with the players' union, which delayed the draft by 2 months. Maybe it would not have made a difference, but with two additional months, you think team cohesion would have been better?
All you had to know about Tampa Bay's quarterbacking in 1977 was that they had to rely on a Bears' castoff, Gary Huff, to be their main signal caller. On a somewhat different note, I am surprised you did not include Coach McKay's famous crack when a writer asked him that season, "What about the team's execution?" McKay replied, "I wouldn't be opposed to it."
The Seahawks were originally in the AFC West, when the Jags and Panthers were inaugurated the NFL moved the Seahawks to the NFL North. I played for McKay in college and he was a monster.
I was living in Tampa when there were bumper stickers reading, "Throw McKay in the bay.". When the Bucs won their first game, the city went wild, tearing down the goalposts, etc.
The Bucs had turned it around with Doug Williams. When it was time to give him the money he deserved, the bucs said no. Williams walked and the bucs went back to sucksville.
Solid stuff. It was kind of gruesome watching the videos of 1976 tackles and seeing the stats throughout. Pretty sure Blount performed a suplex on that green concrete. Idgaf if they were plumbers, no one is pile driving Odell into SoFi. I felt the CTE just by watching.
"well we didnt block them but we made up for it by not tackling" what a legendary quote
Growing up a Falcons fan, my favorite memory of this era is that I always looked forward to the Falcons playing the Saints and the Buccaneers because it always meant easy wins. That's why I was not surprised that New Orleans was the first to lose to them. Surprised that the Bucs first QB, Steve Spurrier, didn't get a mention. He was the only hope that team had on offense that first season. You also failed to mention that the coach's son was made the primary wide receiver over all others who were far better. One thing the Bucs had going for them back then was they had the coolest uniforms and the coolest logo. Now they got the ugliest behind the Patriots.
As a Lifelong Bucs fan, attended all Home Games in 76 & 77, since my Uncle was on those teams, U forgot to mention a few key moments in the video. 1)Owner Culverhouse was a tight ass with spending. 2)Other NFL teams were allowed to protect their best players from the Expansion Draft. 3)John McKay was not a good GM AT ALL.
What an insane video from start to finish and I thought watching the Jets year in and year out was bad lmao
Best sportsquote ever...
Reporter-"what do you think of your team's execution:
John McKay-"I'm in favor of it"
Love your videos. You have a great perspective.
KTO: "Could you imagine watching your team only score one touchdown every 3 games"
Me, a Giants fans: 😐
One of my favorite NFL quotes: Jack Lambert after the Steelers 42-0 win over the Bucs, 12/5/76, "I don't think they would've scored if we'd played 'til Wednesday."
3-4 yrs to the playoffs isn’t bad,
Back in the late 80s I think we figured the Bucs would need to go 10-6 for 20 yrs to get even on wins-losses
They eventually got a super bowl ring. Good for them
John McKay had a great quote at a press conference after a game. He was asked what he thought of his team's execution. His reply: "I would be in favor of it."
As a life long Bucs fan and Tampa bay area resident. It's been rough. Thank you Tom Brady!!!!
The drafting of Lee Roy Selmon - who is hands down one of the GREATEST defensive lineman in NFL history turned around the whole franchise. That and Doug Williams playing QB.
A lot of people are unaware that the Carolina Panthers started out in the NFC West. They competed with the Rams, 49ers, Saints and Falcons. Yeah, the Saints and the Falcons were also in the NFC West and for the longest time, too. I know because I was there to see them play. 3/5's of the teams playing in the NFC Western division were actually located east of the Mississippi River.
8:20. We’ll I have watched the Chad Morris Arkansas razorbacks
"We didn't block them, but we made up for it by not tackling." -- Coach Mckay
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0:47 It's such a trip you put Carillon Point in the video.
I was just thinking about my oldest memory of Kirkland, Wa today.
My dad played on the Seahawks and he took me to practice when I was about 6. 1977 season the year after this.
This was my view from the 2nd floor of the facility when I watched him practice. So weird I saw this today.
They tore the facility down and moved down the lake. Bill Gates office is there now.
Yes, most of us who remember watching the Buccaneers during their first two seasons, all we can remember is that they lost their first 26 games. But as stated at the end of the video, the team made it all the way to the conference final in just their 4th season. How many other teams can make that claim? Doug Williams would go on to win a Super Bowl with the Redskins eight years later.
I've been a Bucs fan since i was in jr high. I'm 46 and only knew part of this story Fantastic job! Thank you!
After watching this, I think it’s amazing how the panthers and jags both got to their respective conf championship games at the same time in their 2nd year of existence.
One thing about Tampa's two wins in 1977. Their two wins were against Hall of Fame coaches: Hank Stram and Don Coryell.
2022 broncos will be in one of these videos real soon. Broncos country, let’s ride
The Seahawks were Originally in the AFC west, not the NFC
A lot this issue where small market teams couldn’t compete with due to the NFL not having a salary cap until the mid-90s, which led to big market teams stacking their team’s with nothing but Hall of Fame players, which, when teams like the New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay, Buccaneers struggle for years.
"go for 0!" LMFAO
I remember this well and I don't think the horrible stats the Bucs' compiled in their early existence will ever be matched. It is a good thing that coach McKay had a good sense of humor :)
I was in college in the fall of 1976, I remember that season, and I didn’t remember that Tampa Bay was originally an AFC team!! My favorite squad, the Eagles, were also pretty bad in 1976….
5:25 now thats football
Good video. The comparison with the 1974 Falcons is apt - and you can make a case the 1974 Falcons were worse, as they weren't a 2nd year expansion team.
0:03 They added two new teams because of agreements made during the merger, not because of the popularity of the NFL
The Seahawks are in the NFC West now, but when they entered the league, they were in the AFC West. They moved to the NFC West in the 2002 realignment.
Dude, great content!
We just saw it with the broncos and colts last night..
I remember watching the Bucs in Tampa stadium in 88, they kept the suck tradition going with Ray Perkins and Vinny Testaverde.
I remember that game in '76, when they played each other. I was 6 years old, but already a big football fan.
Everyone called that game "The Toilet Bowl."
John McKay’s sound bites are absolutely legendary.
The thing thats especially important to point out between those expansion teams, Seattle's HC was known for essentially using 4 downs in order to move the ball. I mean, you're already a undertalented team, having to use players that wouldve otherwise been cut from other NFL rosters at the time, as an expansion. What do you have to lose? They'd do fake field goals, punts, aggressive passes, whatever it took to scrape out wins those first few crucial years. Making it exciting for fans and a reason to see games. For Tampa to not even find a way to scrape out a win or two in a similar fashion still feels mind boggling to me.
When Carolina came into the NFL in 1995 they were put in the NFC West until the realignment in 2002 that put them in the NFC South