How the Galaxy Viewed General Grievous (Featuring The Stupendous Wave)
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- Content in video is expressed using PG-13 rated movies and Teen + rated comics, TV shows, video games, and books; and is not intended for children. For today's video, we have our guest The Stupendous Wave explain to us how the Galaxy viewed General Grievous during the Clone Wars and what his purpose was supposed to be after the war.
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It's fun to imagine Grevious in a civil setting.
I was picturing him at a formal dinner having to be civil, but also being unable to eat.
Vanders lol
I think there was one episode is the recent star wars the clone wars where we saw him at a negotiating table, and he kept sighing in annoyance and growling at the ambassador who was talking to him waiting for someone else to show up, but really it was a distraction to keep grievous away from a battlefield. I think it was Jar Jar distracting him on Naboo.
Derpacis yeah but that was really short.
Please link this or name the episode.
Grievous attending a party... Now THAT i need to see.
Destroyer Of Skulls IT BE THE BEST DANCE PARTY
He sort of just...existed. He didn't really do much except act creepy.
Impearial stormtrooper ST-238
Ooooo....just get dem glow sticks for Grievous!
Destroyer Of Skulls Hello good sir my name is *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* *COUGH* I’m okay.........
When he's trying to pick up a girl he would be like *_"Your phone number will make a fine addition to my... collection."_*
I relate with Grievous in this video more than any other
Invited to social party, followed one pedestrian he knew and was completely silent...
I want a Grievous spin off movie:(
I like that idea if they did it in the time before he was a Cyborg, that would be interesting
+Elijah Chavanne But Canon destroyed most of his history...I think there is no space for a better story than the legend one
Precisely. Given what they do to Star Wars now, they better forget Grievous and leave him what he originally was, what we loved him for. I don't want to see another cheap parody of Grievous at all.
If they digged deeper into the old EU it might be a very interesting thing, he was a much more complex and tragic character there, rather than just a guy who gradually "upgraded" himself with cybernetics...
Grievous is one of the most serious and mature characters in SW universe, if not the best one, heads above others. And yes, very tragic too. I was positively surprised to see such depth and exceptional quality in Star Wars. The point though is that we know already how they 'dig' into the original universe, they have corrupted pretty much everything they touched. I don't want it to happen to my favourite SW character.
I love how some of the Star Wars fact channels are guest narrating in each other's channel. It's like they are bonding together into a web of channels.
Awho Chen yes, a big community. i like it
It's the Force! It's a content field that flows through every Star Wars content creator. It surrounds us and penetrates the SW channels. It binds the community together.
Thanks so much for allowing me to make the video! Love the channel and am truly honored!
Of course! Thanks for making such an awesome video.
Hi.
The Stupendous Wave fuck you!!!!
stupedous wave you are awesome! you, Fact Free and Star Wars Explained are the Sidious, Vader and Bane of our time!
+RBdeuce now you will feel the power of my dislike!!!!
the legends version is so much better
Everything legends is better imo
''legend'' =real star wars ...'canon' new SJW BS pozzed shit that dont even count as real star wars
Ragimund VonWallat Exactly.
Ragimund VonWallat "SJW" LOL. Right, because the new film has a female lead and a black guy in it. Way to out yourself as an insecure Trumptard, you low IQ simpleton. How's it feel being an uneducated, bitter virgin? Your little internet edgelord act won't ever get you loved, you indoctrinated, simple-minded follower. ;) You mad?
Ragimund VonWallat Nice grammar fail, by the way. Not surprising considering your ilk (alt-right conservatives) statistically tend to be on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum according to virtually every study ever done on the subject. But of course, science is just a conspiracy devised by the "educated liberal elite." Owned, little boy. ;))
I loved Grievous' tolerance of Nute Gunray. Which was about 0.001%.
General Grievous needs his own standalone Star Wars movie.
Hopefully it would be r rated
@@melancholymelon5316 "hello there"
"Shut the fuck up general Kenobi"
Let me know if you guys have problems with the video, some of you said the video isn't working. Not sure why that may be
Fact Free the video seems fine. I hope you do more collaboration's with more Star Wars channel's
Fact Free love your videos! 😃
How The Stupendous Wave thought there was only one of you.
Notice me Senpai.
It's works completely fine for me.
2003 Grievous and EU Comics Grievous is the real one. TCW Grievous was beaten by Gungans, they really lowballed him, for reasons like "he can't be so strong cause he has no Force". So sad. Poor Grievous. Once a killing machine, now a runaway who gets beaten by kids and Gungans...
Hence why Disney is mostly disliked by older fans of the seris....They gave no respect for the old materiel and just put a fucking trade mark on everything and claimed responsibility for the entire franchise....pisses me off.
What idiot decided to get rid of the largest fictional EU of any franchise....And than claim it's for "creative freedom"....and than they do absolutely nothing new.
Lord Vader
do you mind telling me how grevious could ever kill 10000 gungan's on his own when the gungan's have weaponry made specifically to kill opponent's just like him
Lenny AKA Ark Bumpy Roose J.R
Well TCW already started that, with Lucas making Korriban "Moraband", declaring Sith Ghosts uncanon (Revan on Mortis), making Grievous weak, the retconned death of Even Piel or the living Eth Koth and the retconned death of Adi Gallia by Savage and not Grievous like it was in the EU comics,Filoni also said there will be no Ysalmiri cause they don't fit with Lucas' Force philosophy; such things are sad; and these "creative freedom" things are just a Darth Caedus rip - off with a Revan helmet (Kylo Ren), a third Death Star that looks like a mix between the Galaxy Gun, Darksaber and Sun Crusher build into Illum, making Lightsaber color depended on the makers Force Usage and character and other things.
Lord Vader TCW was still beter than Rebels. And you gotta admit TCW had some really good scenes
Well rebels has that too, Vader, Tarkin, Thrawn, Mandos, Maul, Ahsoka etc. Overall I never said these things are bad made or something, just the lore and timeline are ignorated.
So the galaxy thought Vader was the new iPhone?
yes
Ryan D'Amelio I
Still better than that Samsung phone
Ryan D'Amelio iphone X
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It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that Grievous had a sense of "tunnel vision" in both large and small scale battles, as Palpatine wanted Grievous to be the leader of the Droid Army specifically because of his high intelligence in large-scale warfare. It seems that the explanation you gave for his different depictions in the two animated series doesn't quite fit. It makes sense that rumors blew his deadly abilities out of proportion, but we saw him up close and personal when he took on that group of Jedi the first time he revealed himself. His story also mentions that he killed hundreds of Jedi before Obi-wan finally took him down, so the depiction of him in the 2008 series wasn't meant to represent his true lack of skill, but was instead just a rewritten version of him that didn't quite correlate with most of the events in his origin story.
Grievous was invited to a party. Can he like...physically make small talk?
Aidan Battcher
Wait.
What if General Grievous got drunk?
Me: Ehhh.....General?????? Are...are you ok?
Grievous:*falls over* Perfectly fine.....
Me: Go home, your drunk general
Grievous: I’m not drunk *gets up staggering* *mutters* It’s the effect of the steroids....
Me: I’m just gonna....leave...Incase he gets even more drunk...........*backs away*
Imagine: Grievous spending the whole party drowning Dooku out by gushing about his 30 kids.
Just think of it.
Bring him back. He's the best character in Star Wars.
Obi-Wan blasted his heart with a blaster pistol in Star Wars Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith. I doubt he's coming back
Fuck-A-Doodle-Do!
They can bullshit him back like Boba Fett
NSA Commander at least they made Boba's revival somewhat believable. Grievous' revival would be too stupid to be considered
Fuck-A-Doodle-Do! , how about Darth Maul?
Fuck-A-Doodle-Do!
Boba Fett's revival was retarded along with mauls if the fans demand it enough they can create all types of bull fuckery and bring him back.
So one of the best villains in Star Wars is totally useless and the clone wars have shown his true skill......
Pathetic
It makes me sad and angry that a character like grievous is treated like garbage but guys like Darth Maul are overhyped
Grievous* have some respect to the unstoppable knight killer m8
So true
When I was in elementary me and my bff made a sign that says “RESPECT GENERAL GRIEVOUS” and we carried it around with us on Halloween while we were dressed as magnaguards XD. And when it got dark we started screaming “RESPECT GENERAL GRIEVOUS”
I love my bff 💗
if it makes you feel better, in a canon comic grievous is the one that kills mother talzin
Well in the clone Wars (2003) mace windy permanently injured him that's why he is always coughing in the clone wars (2008) and revenge of the sith
He would have been much more powerful otherwise
Still I do agree he should have had more screen time and more feats in the clone wars
2003 Clone Wars Grievous is the only one I accept
Livinius me too
Damn straight, fuck this Disney retcon bullshit. Such a smarmy explanation.
Fuzzy Dunlop the 2008 series was out years before Disney had anything to do with Star Wars...
You are absolutely correct. I've since revised my scorn as being directed at both George Lucas AND Disney. The more the merrier.
Fuzzy Dunlop someone’s a bit dense. None of this was Disney’s fault AT ALL, although I do agree with the fact that Disney’s fairytale Feminist shit is stupid and out of place
In what book/comic did Grievous attend a Separatist party? Because what you describe and how honestly sounds hilarious ^^
+Gyarretto7 It's been a while since I read it, but I think it was in the book Dark Disciple
mASSturbate
Grievous:*stands awkwardly and annoyed in the corner*
*random people keep gawking at him and calling him a droid*
Grievous: F**k this shit I’m out *walks away*
Dooku:*viciously gestures for Grievous to come back*
Grievous:*continues walking*
Dooku:*whisper screams* GRIEVOUS!
Grievous: *walks away with “Fuck this shit I’m out” playing in the background
That’s how it would have gone down honestly XD
Jamie Walsh
Oh yeah lmao Grievous does have explosive anger so that probably would happen...
I mean his usual tactic is Fuck this Shit I'm out, and he just nopes right out of a fight sooooooo depends on the situation?
Grievous (along with TOR) is one of the main reasons that while I recognize new canon from episode IV on, from episode III back I still only recognize legends. Everything about his legends story, from his exploits to his motivations, is far more mature than what they did to him in TCW.
3:46 Grievous be like draw me like one of your french robots.
Lol
Me:*raises hand* I’ll do it.
Grievous: *is in a totally sexy pose*
Me:(fangirling while sketching)
On The Titanic:
STAY AT YOUR STATIONS!!!
@@BarterTom
Titanic : *Is sinking*
General Grievous : Time to abandon ship .
Tamás Pákey I’m flying... General Kenobi... hahaha, a’hurgh.
I still consider Hypori and the entire 2003 series cannon. There is literally nothing that directly conflicts with the 2008 series or the Canon universe in general.
Same
actually, there is.. lol
Live action Captain Rex
Nothing at all really. There's literally a point in the 2003 series where you can pause, watch the entire 2008 series, and return no problem.
I did it even before a read your comment, and theres a lot of continuity conflicts between both... I won't remember right now witch were those, because there's a lot of them.. they are very little details, but together are more than enought to conflict both series with one another...
TVJUNK85 the battle of hypori is still canon thanks to the thrawn book.
Forever one of my favorite Starwars characters of all time! Wish more lore was made for him.
The hilarity at imagining grievous in a civil / formal environment. He sits down and is forced to talk about art and culture when all he knows is killing and genocide.
waiter: would you like some punch, general?
grievous: AAAGGHHHH!! *slaps the cup out of his hand*
*everyone gets quiet*
I constantly see Grievous as such an op monster that they constantly had to make him look weak and beatable. I mean, a creature with 4 incredibly fast mechanical limbs holding 4 lightsabers and being controlled by a mind capable of creative and unorthodox mind? That has to be one of the strongest things ever! 4 lightsabers coming at you from different angles and prectically at the same time! The only way to beat him should be with the Force, but they make him a pussy who loses against a guy with 1 lightsaber! Pisses me off...
Same. He was a beast in legends, but then Disney (And maybe Lucas) came around and utterly fucked his character.
It was Disney/Dave Filoni that did it.
***** 1: George Lucas didn't do anything wrong. Why do You think that? 2: It was. Everything was. He didn't like the EU's Version, so He denied it. And He was one of the main writers. It was all His doing.
***** 1: In multiple Interviews and in a 'making of' video on 'Lair of Grievous' if that's the name of the episode. 2: But the difference is; George had a good reason for it. Grievous' lungs where crushed in the Original Clone Wars Show.
***** False. It wasn't George's idea to completely ignore the events of SW: CW. Filoni did it. He changed the things that where Canon. He destroyed Quinlan Vos' character TWICE. Made every single single person in the C.I.S. a complete fool, and made them lose every battle they where in.
I never understood why Dooku wanted me to keep silent during formal events. I'm certain the people of the Confederacy would have loved to heard about Kaleesh culture. Oh, and of course my fine collection.
Grievous the CIS Commander
Me:*raises hand* I’ve found you a year later, who cares I agree. *starts yelling at Count Dooky*
I'd love to hear about it!
Stfu
I still like the unbeatable version of Grievous I feel like he loses a lot in the clone wars show cause the thought of the hero always wins but he is a beast when it comes to combat
This makes so much sense now. Thank you so much for another amazing video!
Interesting theory on Grievous' differences in the 2003 Clone Wars series and in TCW. I myself believe that Grievous is capable of the feats he pulled off in the 2003 series such as killing 4 Jedi on Hypori and wiping out the Republic Army on the planet, it's just that Grievous' traits of overconfidence and tunnel vision are shown more often in TCW, hence the unflattering depiction.
I’ve got a mental image of Grievous wearing a party hat and clutching a beer with a straw in it, his mask pretty much reflecting his mood.
Dooku: Oh lighten up. Go and talk to Asajj, she just broke up with Durge and you have a lot in common.
Grievous: She’ll ask me to dance.
"he was big and strong in his eyes a flaming glow"
Could you please make a video on how the Empire viewed other religions? (Besides the Jedi of course.)
Kristov Kringle or just what other religions there were.
Crimson Corsair That too
Kristov Kringle yeah I don't really know other religions, the trandotions had a religion based on hunting. but maybe small cultural based religions or like madalorians where it's a way of life
I imagine the empire would view them as useless but wouldn't consider worth their attention.
After all, once you've utterly destroyed the only religion with any actual power, the others seem a little irrelevant.
Probably better than the Republic, a man at corusant once had different views than the jedi and when he refused to change it the jedi took him from his home.
I also believed they at one point lined up children and slaughtered them due to religious reasons.
Meh. Fuck the whole "Animated Clone Wars showed his actual skill" He would not hold a rep like that so easily without in being true.
Lets face it, Clone wars was great but they fucked over Grievous
Ome of my only complain about it
The Clone Wars show fucked Grevious over, mostly because it was a kid show, but also since most of the Jedi had plot armor
The Wolf-God A LOT of armor and shows only few dead Jedi on the show and he is really cowardly in the CGI animated.
He was stated in Revenge of the Sith by Windu to be a coward, don't forget that.
Gengarzilla The Will to Live is different from being beaten by fucking Padawans and god damn gungans
The fact that the Republic almost always win really irks me.
Couldn't agree more. It's one of many reasons I didn't continue to watch it. Though it doesn't help that they gave Grevious the most disappointing fight of all the films. God damn no respect for the knight slayer.
How did the galaxy view Grievous? With their eyes, for the most part.
Or eye analog
Good one
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I just imagine a socially awkward Grevious at the separatist party 😂
i love your videos man keep it up love your take on legends and cannon
Thank you, means a lot :)
In the Expanded Universe Qymaen jai Sheelal was much more complex, three-dimensional and tragic charaxter.
Grevious in the 2003 cartoon is how he really is. It was his first appearance and because of that it is how he is supposed to be
the series made him more powerful than he should be, in any case revenge of the sith series where it is supposed to be.
My two favourite star wars youtubers collaborating (AGAIN !!! :) ), the feels. Do more please guys
Free fact can you do a video on the most dangerous bounty hunters, like Cad Bane and Embo?
I think he made one already. I remember something about bounty hunters.
TestingHydra 117 his name is ENBOW
+Brandon Yan its a joke but whatever
DURGE!
When I think of Durge I think of hentai
When I think of that I think of Durge x Grievous (yes, it is a real ship and I ship it)
When I’m thinking about that I think of Durge x Grievous + Hentai
When I’ve thought that I grab my blaster and shoot myself
Always preferred grievous in legends due to the character representing what Anakin would eventually become, I also found his character much more interested than just a moustache twirling villain.
as a weezing coward. i perfered him in the original.clone wars shorts. he was fast powerful and intimidating
Yup
And the comics!
I liked his design in RotS though. Also his design in 2009 CW is rather nice. If we had gotten him with one of those designs in the 2003 CW (doesn’t have to be as realistic of course), then I would have totally gone insane and would be fangirling hardcore
I love it when some of these many great Star Wars Lore channels come together to collaborate in videos. I look forward to more in the future. :)
Was looking forward for fact frees voice :( but good video !
Kevin Hernandez yeah
Kevin Hernandez shut up Kevin lol.
Kevin lol
Kevin No you shut up Kevin lol
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Can just imagine a bunch of people dancing in a room and Grevipus standing in the corner with a party hat on, cake and a fork
i hate it when people said the micro series. That is more canon that the clone wars t.v show. It fills that gap between episode 2 & 3 perfectly. Plus its the only show that actually shows what happens right before episode 3 which is CANON.
2 of the best Star Wars you tubers together!!! Great video guys!
When I think of Grievous I think of his endless fucking coughing
For Grievous at the formal party is must of felt like when you go to an event but only know 1 person there so you just awkwardly follow them around.
Grievous will always be my favorite monster death machine.
Luv seeing two of my fav. UA-camrs collaborating
What if Grievous killed Obi Wan?
Obi Wan would've never sent the message to the remaining Jedi, Anakin would have his limbs, Padme may have survived and Luke Skywalker would never be on Tattooine. A lot of things would happen
Then logic would have hapened if we follow the EU
Then he'd eventually be betrayed by Sidious and Dooku, would kill Dooku and escape into exile as the new Galactic Empire formed, meet a young moisture farmer on Tatooine, mentor him in the ways of lightsaber combat - all the while lamenting on how he was a fond enemy of the boy's father (who was an asshole) and regrets never getting to add his lightsaber to his fine collection, eventually being the catalyst on a grand adventure to usurp the Empire and put in place a Confederacy of kinda-friendly-but-mostly-isolationist planets, only to be killed by a cyborg-gimp in a black leather suit with the voice of James Earl Jones while on a secret mission to rescue some princess.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 What you said just doesnt make any sense at all. I hope it was a joke.
Imagine Dooku giving a large speech, filled with seperatist meaning, and then you just hear the hacks and coughs of Grievous in the far corner of the room. No wonder he doesn't go to parties.
Greivous in the 2003 show is how he was supposed to be. He was meant to be the ultimate Jedi killing machine. It was his first apperance in the SW universe and is how he is supposed to be. TCW fucked him up and made him reather weak and not mcuh of a threat to Jedi who were above avarage levels of skill. In other words not what he was supposed to be.
why does everyone say this? I can't explain how much I disagree
the series made him more powerful than he should be, in any case revenge of the sith series where it is supposed to be.
@@asm7406 So where it's supposed to be is a total joke of an enemy that isn't even worth acknowledging? The Droidekas are a bigger deal than Grievous is in Revenge of the Sith.
I highly disagree. Grievous should be scary but in the Revenge of the Sith he's all bark and no bite. In TCW he is a bit better but still a joke compared to the beast he was originally. He is rarely intimidating in canon and doesn't come of as a big deal.
The only times he actually felt intimidating was when he first fought Ahsoka and when he held his speech to the Jedi while torturing Eeth Koth. And if you can only be threatening while beating up a child and torturing a defenseless POW then you're not an intimidating villain. Kylo Ren is more threatening.
2003 Grievous is a monster. He is a war machine specifically designed to kill Jedi and does it well. When he shows up the story turns into a horror movie. He's not only able to challange the Jedi but actually overwhelm them. For the first time ever the Jedi weren't top dogs anymore and that alone makes him an epic villain.
I know George wanted him to be this mustache twirling villain but sometimes the authors ideas aren't the best. First of all it makes no sense to have Grievous be that type of villain when he already has two of those. Dooku and Palpatine both fall into that category, as does the entire Seperatist council. We don't need another.
Second of all, George also wanted Grievous to be a reflection of what Anakin will become. Well he fails epicly at that because i don't recall Vader being weak, cowardly and full of baseless arrogance. He was a beast, a absolute unit, a monster devoid of mercy. While Grievous was all bark no bite Vader had a nasty bark and a even worse bite. He was a nightmare for the heroes.
And so was Grievous in the 2003 show. A silent killer mowing down his enemies and who is utterly relentless in his pursuit. He just doesn't stop, no matter what you throw at him he keeps on comming. He's not a person but rather a force of nature that only the most powerful of masters can stand up to.
That is the Grievous we need. Not the half decent villain from TCW and certainly not the absolute joke of an antagonsit we got in ROTS.
@@mfwspew While I admit I was abit harsh on the TCW version my point stands. TCW Grievous is the 2003 Grievous if he let himself go for 10 years. Movie Grievous is 2003 Grievous if he let himself go for 10 years, became a meth addict and developed both scoliosis and stage 4 cancer. Also had his balls chopped off.
@@brucejedilee5290 man why you comin back to this comment from 5 years ago
03:12 «Droid general»
Grievous: TRIGGERED
Lucas Grievous gets owned by Gungans.
Tarkatovsky Grievous murders every single one including Jar Jar and brings peace to the Gungan-free Star Wars universe and community.
Patrick Conroy
I doubt any cyborg or droid would survive long against gungan weaponry which is made to combat droids.
+NSA Commander
Indeed
As a big fan of grievous it hurts to say it
@@BreakEm22 I mean true but their weaponry is limited to the design to be tossed like a waterballoon behind a shield carrying dinosaur on land. I think grevious won't have too much trouble frying fish outside of their water bowl if the first movie almost had them all dead even without grievous if anakin didn't bore a hole into their banking clan's ship.
What a salty comment that doesn’t even bother to do research
zoroark MASTER 1.) Comment is 3yrs old. 2.) Gungans like Jar Jar ruined Star Wars, 3.) 2D Grievous > 3D Grievous.
I love both the stupendous wave and fact free
I always viewed him as awesome and tragic, but I'm in a galaxy rather close in present day.
I love both channels Fact Free and Stupendous Wave! Keep it up guys!
It angers me how poorly Grievous was portrayed in Star Wars The Clone Wars.. Grievous was a killing machine in The Clone Wars Micro Series.. Taking on 6 Jedi at once, then in STTCW he can't even handle a padawan, and when he goes against a Jedi Knight he is tossed around like nothing... What the hell man.. They should have given him some victories allow him to kill random Jedi, have a few victories against Obi-Wan. The Clone Wars Cartoon disgraced him.
Lol no,dude the cartoon clone Wars made everyone look like a darksoul boss,thats not star Wars,I mean,a cyborg taking out 6 jedi on the same Time,one being a jedi MASTER,and killing 3 of them? A tentacule Monster capable of surviving litterally anything? Droids and clones blowing up metalic laser tanks with middle ages weapons? Also dooku said to ventress sith dont have fear,yet look at his face in ROTS before Anakin kills him,does that mean dooku wasn't a sith?
The characters in the cartoon clone Wars were all way too OP to be in the star Wars movies,or at least not as they were portrayed.
Also,by padawan you mean Ashoka? 'cause she ran away the 2 Times they fought,also lol when did a jedi knight made grievous his bitch? Of what I Saw in the clone Wars grievous was owning obi wan in lightsaber skills before he used the force.
He also pushed back Fisto and his former padawan (who's now a jedi knight),he was being a challenge for KIT FISTO! You cant tell me that Guy is weak.
And if you talk about the gungan part,then you really dont know anything about the clone Wars that isn't about grievous,the gungans are very skilled warriors and outnumbered grievous by 100000 vs 1,not even dooku or sidious would win that fight (at least not alone)
Canon grievous Can crush skulls with his feet,punch hard enough to dent a ship,hold back kit fisto,he is fast enough to dodge mandolorian lasers,and he is also a genius in War,he's just not as strong as 2003 grievous,which is honestly reasonable.
@@cbfranco3307 idk i rather take the 3002 micro series over that shit cgi cartoon
@@cbfranco3307Why not? Labyrinth of Evil, Darth Plagueis, and the novelization of RotS (and other novels, frankly) give detailed explanations of just how fast and powerful Jedi and their Sith counterparts can be. Grievous is described as being just as fast, if not faster, and possessing greater stamina and strength because of his cybernetics. He is the most threatening non-force sensitive combatant in all of Star Wars, bar none.
In the 2008 series, they did not display that. They took advantage of the animated style to show off those features in fights with Sidious, Yoda, Dooku, Anakin, and others, but in the case of Grievous they turned his fighting style into more of a flashy battle display that accomplishes very little, whereas he fights incredibly fast (and skillfully) in an unorthodox manner in the 2003 series and novels.
Live action films make it difficult to display all of the powers of force users, for actors are not superhuman, but athletic stunt doubles are capable of some impressive feats in their own right, and Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor had marvelous combat performances in RotS. Grievous and Yoda, as CGI models, had the best opportunity to display Lightning speed and strength in the movies, and to an point they did, but in the 2008 series Grievous appears no faster or tactically flexible than in RotS. He certainly should! Animation allows for it, and taking the 2003 series into account, Grievous was injured throughout RotS, and still had Obi-Wan on the ropes, showing a very high battle competence on Utapau coupled with deadly skill, strength, and speed.
His performance is lackluster in TCW, and that can’t be argued. As for the Gungans, we all know it wouldn’t be difficult for Sidious to carve a path out of a bunch of them and drive the rest off in surprise and fright, effective combatants they may be. Grievous, having an advantage in strength and speed, and better 360 degree offensive/defensive capabilities, should similarly have no issue.
@@EmperorNapoleon1815 Yeah I now agree Sidious would have destroyed the gungans with ease.
Still think even 2003 Grievous would at least struggle with such a massive army though, though after reflection yeah he could win too.
Fun fact: While Grevious was feared and infamous across the galaxy, he was a hero to his people, the Kaleesh. Before he became a cyborg he was considered a demigod but after his death they considered him a God. He also had 10 children and several wives before he became a cyborg.
I wonder how his children feel about what happened, and if they were to seek vengeance against the jedi and sith...
The Clone wars, ruining our villains one week at a time. Thanks George.
This video will make a fine addition to my library
Who would win:
An army of the most skilled protectors of the galaxy,
Or
One spinny boi
"You fool! I've been trained in the spinninig arts by Saruman!"
It is really awesome to see some of my favorite channels work together like this and I hope see more of this in the future.
The real reason he appeared weak in the Clone Wars was because of plot reasons. What were they going to do? Have Grievous be how he was intended be, and have him kill many Jedi characters he encountered...Ones that _had_ to survive for the plot?
To them, it was easier to just make him weak as shit and have him just so happen to escape every time he failed.
simple, create a ton nameless jedi to be killed lol
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 nah that would be a waste of time
@@Zeqweery why
Sure, but that’s lazy and a disservice to the character (and boring for the fans).
They could use a plethora of as-yet unnamed Jedi or pull in some of the named ones who DIDN’T have to survive in big plots for him to kill. They could have also given him the Talzin kill on screen and given him a proper win over Ventress on Dathomir (which he deserved).
I really like the collabs between these two channels
when you say "General Grievous was invinted to a party" all i can imagine is Grievous trying to drink a cup of tea
Seeing Stupendous Wave here is Surprising to be sure
still got his ass handed to him by Gungans
The Daily Dose Of Randomness Crew
well the gungan's did disable his entire invasion force and had him outnumbered 10,000 to 1
also the gungan's had weapons that were extremely effective on droid's and cyborg's
no Jedi or sith could beat that many trained warriors
I blame George and his Gungan-fetish for that one.
Patrick Conroy yes I to blame George for creating a specie's that he likes
Anthony Rodriguez Yeah, one that nearly ruined Star Wars as a whole.
Patrick Conroy I think you severely overestimate how annoying jar jar binks is
That is literally the same argument I heard when people were talking about ewoks
I know jar jar is annoying and almost completely pointless but I think you are letting your hate Bonner look over the circumstances of the fight
I'm saying this to be constructive: the word you are looking for is WARY not weary. They were WARY of General Grievous as in they viewed him with suspicion and unease. They worried about his true intentions. Dooku would become WEARY of Grievous because he would eventually grow tired of him. See the difference? Everything else you do is great though.
MAKE A VID WIT WAT HAPPEN TO DEAD CLONES THEY HAVE A GRAVE OR THEY BURN THE CORPSES
Helghast Mihai they probably just left the corpses there because if the were to bring back the bodies of the clones it would just allow the separatists to destroy even more
The Nick_Sonic Wat ?
WAT ?
Helghast Mihai if they die in battle and the republic was forced to retreat then they would probably leave the bodies on the battlefield to rot. If the clones died in battle and the republic end up winning the battle then they would probably mass burn them as there would be so many casualties.
cremation is the standard form of disposal of bodies in star wars
It's really cool the way y'all, (yes I am from Georgia) are sharing channel's. Great idea, impressive execution, hopefully extremely rewarding for you both and us the fans. Cheers boys! oneLove
Do the evolution of the Galactic Empire, from Palpatine's galactic Empire to Darth Krayt's galactic empire
This makes him make so much sense now!!!! Ty for the video!:D
I hate the 3D Clone Wars for ruining his image.
I remember watching his first appearance in the 2D show as it aired. It was awe inspiring.
Please Do Another Collaboration With Stupendous Wave, You Guys Make A Good Team
the clone wars show fucked his character up, it was a kids show so as a result no episode ended in the bad guys winning which is kinda stupid and made Grevious less imposing because he couldn't do shit where as in the other TV Show, he took on like 3 knights and a master at once and beat them all
palapatine won the war in the end
So sad
Love you two guys! Two of some of my favorite videos!
Always excited to see new videos from you guys. :)
LOL i thought i was watching a Stupendous wave video
Ozzy Same lol, happened to me yesterday thinking I was watching Fact Free
thanks for uploading may thr force be with you
AYYYY IT'S STUPENDOUS
Great Job Fact Free keep it up!!
You guys need to work together more often :D
Stupendous you just earned yourself another subscriber.
Hey fact free I've always wondered why none of the ones who hated sidious like mother talzin or count dooku ever simply just told the republic that palpatine was the real Sith Lord so that they could completely ruin his plans?Why didn't they just took a picture of palpatine and show it to the republic or any proof doesn't seem like it would be hard to do.It doesn't make sense.
That's uhh... that's a very good question to be honest
maybe dooku thought he could take advantage of the plans. and did talzin even know that palpatine was a sith?
Awesome. My two favorite Star Wars channels
“Kenobi was not impressed by Grievous”. Grievous literally defeated 2 Padawans, 1 Jedi Knight and 3 Jedi Masters on his own lol
General Grevious
Ah, a fine character to add to my collection.
I like Grevious more as a badass Jedi killer
Funny how just a day or two earlier how Fact Free made a video on Stupendous Wave's channel.
The 2008 Clone Wars series utterly destroyed Grievous, basically lobotomizing him and making him a Saturday morning cartoon villain that always kept failing. A real shame since he was more fleshed out in Legends as a character.
I love General Grievous, favorite Character byfar in the Star Wars Universe.
Didn't grievous hide under the battle field when yoda and the clones come during episode 2
My nosa tinks so
Elite Wolf06 yes
In a sense. He had been told by Dooku to not interfere and not fight with the Jedi on the arena, thus he stayed underground.
That's because no one in their right mind would engage Yoda unless they had an army at their side :P
Paweł Łukijańczuk didn't a Jedi go underground and was killed by him
Grievous didn't say a word at the party, cause he was busy rocking his cybernetics on the dance floor.
1:52 is my computer background
I love the idea of Grevious as a fall guy for Dooku. It fits in perfectly with Dooku's personality
Taking the 2008 series as source, yeah sure why not
Cahzinar X which is truely horifiying if you ask me
ICHBinCOOLERalsJemand Why?
mottmattproductions is this a serious question?
just another legends fan boy
You sir do not deserve that name
How I view General Grievous:
OH LORD!!! THIS GUY IS BADASS JESUS CHRIST! oh and he looks kinda nice too....DANNNNNNNNNNG!!! I LOVE THIS GUY!
I am a fangirl I am so sorry XD
Please do a video on how leia got Boushh's armor
GunganHunter506 Chewbacca knocked him out and leia took his armor
Jakov Hrga source?
GunganHunter506 I made it up, but that probably happened lol
I think I read in a comic that they got it from a group called the Black Sun.
bitfreakazoid How did they get it? lol