Is it worth it?? Bass Restoration Processors, AudioControl Epicenter, Mirco & Wavtech BassRestor.
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- We review and demo Bass Restoration Processors. The Original Epicenter by Audiocontrol, the new Epicenter Micro and the Wavtech BassRestor. We go over how these units work and what application will work best.
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The Original Epicenter
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The WavTech bassRestor
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The Epicenter Micro
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If you don’t have one of these and you play Spanish music u might as well not listen to it😂. It’s a must for Banda and Corridos
FOR SURE!!!
Lmao! I Need This shit!
Same goes for older rock like AC/DC and similar music. No other addition will make Back in Black flex the windshield
@@Hammerback972I love chariots of fire!
And if you don't? The music I listen to has enough bass as-is.
Totally believe it's worth having a bass processor. I have the Hifonics BXiPro and wouldn't think of having a system without it. It even sounds good on heavy bass songs when tuned right.
I'm sold. Thanks for the information.
This is the best explanation this far 👍
Thank you for sampling the unit great job
Thanks. This video is very informative and helpful.
Solid video. Thank you
if you never tried the wavtech bassrestor it’s probably the best bass restoration processor that comes tied to the epicenter and sounds just as good. it came out before the epicenter micro and it’s cheaper and i love how both bass and epicenter effect are built into one knob and you can control both with ease on the fly, and having the subsonic for the wavtech makes it such an ease instead of buying a chip and replacing it to get those lower frequencies. i had it and gave it to my friend tho but because i wanted to stay with my jp23 amp knob with the voltage so i just got the actual epicenter to use the knob separately and tbh there wasn’t really a difference from both, they sounded similar and the bass coming out of both with the effect on sounded so good compared to cheaper copies of bass restoration.
The audiocontrol offers balanced line inputs, my vehicle uses a balanced signal out. So this feature makes the audiocontrol the clear winner for me.
Wavtech also has that.
I listen to mostly rap, corridos, norteno, tejano music. I installed a cerwin vega bass processor and i love it. Adds bass where there was no bass in the songs but it won't really work on most rap songs. I read that rap songs have bass already so the processor won't work as good as on other music types but thats not all rap songs and sometimes makes rap songs sound worse. Hell, it will even add bass to country songs, but if your bass head i highly recommend getting one for your system for the music types above except rap imo.
I absolutely love my Wavetech, I have one in my Navigator, and I just did an install in my Lexus and realize what I was missing.
Yeah wavtech is underrated! Wish more people know about them.
The way music is now uploaded on streaming platforms and compressed?, YES this imHo is a necessity!!
This works great for Country and Spanish music 🎵🎶
I have never used epicenter before but I kinda want one. Because In truck that I have kenwood excelon head unit I feel it does awesome job with any music I play. I would play music Mexican music or Jose Jose which lack bass very bad I just turn on the bass boost and sounds clean. But with my daily I have the LC2 I try to do the same thing but some music would sound very weak
Get one you will regret not having one earlier
If you have the power and sub-woofer size That 1st song Zap goes nuts on an Epicenter.
It does!!
Older rock benefits greatly from the epicenter. Ill never be without my epicenter
Was sold when I heard how hard that bass beat kicked in from that Zapp & Roger...my mp3 Zapp and Roger album doesn't beat like that with my bass turned up on my 8in subs..been researching this piece of equipment for quite some time. Can't wait to hook this mofo up in a couple of days.
Trust I am OG going back to the 80’s rap r&b soul and that zapp song sold it for me because I have many systems but never used this but my next one will. Thanks for the video
Wow! You Brothers are bringing back memories!!!
I'm Gonna Have To Look Into This Old School Salsa Tracks Lack Tons Of Bass
I wish there were more algorithms like this for use on HTPC systems. Lately I've been using TrueBass in Stereo Tool from Thimeo. It's pretty good, and works by harmonics detection (unlike the bx_SubSynth plugin) but it doesn't seem to compare to the way the hardware sounds. Maybe I just don't know how to configure it very well. Does anybody know of others?
I have an epicenter & it hit Hella hard on them jl audio w6's.
Nice!!
The best investment I’ve ever made. I works on more music than you think! I suggest you start with Chariot’s Of Fire.
Yeah!! Thanks for the comment. Chariots of fire saved on my Apple Music as the next song to play in my truck!
This song by $uicideboy$?
Can you do a video on how your settings were set in your epicenter? Or another on how to set the epicenter properly?
Dean and Fernando have done a few videos on how to set it up properly check out 5 Star Car Stereos channel
Also, the Epicenter Micro is much smaller in size and wayyyyy easier to set up correctly imho
@@melissathompson7229 the micro is the same thing as this just that it has line inputs as well. This can be setup exactly the same way as the micro you just need to open it up to get to all the other switches inside.
I have the epicenter with the SPL meter (not accurate) that goes up front in dash, it’s ridiculously simple to set/operate
Will the wavtech accept the input of a sub channel on an existing dsp amp as speaker level inputs? I have a JBL DSP4086. I attempted to use its channels 7/8 (subwoofer) speaker outs connected to speaker level/RCA adapters, and into a stronger amp as direct RCA connections. I'm having issues with peaky bass and no dynamics. I was looking at the epicenter micro, but the wavtech looks to be cheaper and does more. Will either of these work with time alignment without muddying up the phase?
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Can you do a comparison between the Micro Epicenter and the Hifonics BXIPRO 3.0. There is very little information out there about the effect comparison. Pice between them is very different. Thanks.
I'm glad to meet you. Need to feel the music (for musicality dancers) ..Bachata Salsa for best set up? i have a ford focus aftermarket radio!
I know music i listen to (bachata) has enough bass with the aftermarket radio but some of the salsa hardly hear the bass, Hopefully that helps.
@@gymworks7958 you need to have subwoofers in your car that are aftermarket if not it won't work
@@DayV914 Aftermarket only ok thank you
I just put 2 8s but did not get the epicenter but now I will definitely will but I'm also impress how good the 8s sound,,,, It's been like 15yrs didn't had a system use to be a fan of 12s but this 2 8s really surprised me
Would this work on my home receiver inline with the subwoofer?
Is this the same technology that the original Waves MaxxBass 103 processor uses?
How is jl xd 4ch amplifier in sq setup.is JL audio xd amp is SQ amp
So if switching from lets say house to rap or country to rap does it work differently or how does that work
I was wondering since i had to install a Pac Audio Ap4Ch41 in my 2015 dodge challenger because i had a factory amplifier and now o really dont have a way of adjusting the bass for my subwoofer if this would be a solution?
Using a blaupunkt Bass processor on 2 8s they hit like a 2x12s
I'm using a Blaupunkt on 2 JL 12 but they're in flat boxes... behind the third row seat of a 03 Aviator
Can I use my sub out from head unit?
What program are you running on your laptop?
Is the hifonics bxi pro 3 a good choice
Any recommendations when running a pac advanced T harness I’ve seen lc7is I have a stock headunit 660 5 channel thanks
Been wanting to install one of these. I was wondering if i could use the sub out if my head units LPF was turned off. Also will this cause any distortion or clipping, if used with non bass heavy songs? I've seen some videos where people state that if the system doesn't need any bass restoration the epicenter wont activate so you don't have to mess with the knob too much.
If you can feed it a signal of up to 1,000Hz it should work fine.
Any bass boosting device has the potential to clip the input signal as well as the amps output. This is where you need to set your amp gains properly and also just don't drive your subs past their excursion limits. Your sub and amp can only put out so much bass, don't force it to play more. If you keep things under control you should be fine.
If you're going from your head unit to an EQ the bass restoration should be the first thing the head unit sees... Then to the EQ and / or crossover cuz this thing boost up your signal-to-noise ratio and it makes your head unit sounds better
Oh it’ll activate. I can’t play songs that are “bass boosted” or trap music. U can click “bypass” and let the music flow without the epicenter affecting it
Can the infrasonic filter be turned off on the audio control epicenter ?
The Micro has a switch to turn off, otherwise its 25Hz. The full size Epicenter is a fixed 33Hz, but you can swap out the chip inside to a different frequency. AC sells the chips for about $12.
No, we don't drive stock, even my work truck has a system n its lucky if it gets driven once a month. Even still, 80% of the folks I'm around drive stock so we may be few and far between. Accubass in the dm608 helps a little but I'm getting an epicenter soon
We are the few and far between!! That’s what separates us from everyone else ! Thanks for the comment !
🔴So there is only one line out. What do i do if i have two amplifier (bass and mids) how does that one line out supply both amps. wont i need a bass rca and a full range rca signal
It’s only for the amp dedicated to the subwoofers
'Beautiful voice, Beautiful woman!!' (Facts!) 😍
Which one of these is the best sound wise ?
Same
In your demo, is it me or is there a slight latency? I hear it especially in the first song you tested…..mainly in the kick drum.
You can't determine latency from a video lol
I definitely noticed. I was surprised to see someone comment. You're absolutely correct. The above guy likely isn't an audio sciences tech. I am. When I heard it, I was doubting today's purchase
Did either of you end up trying it in your car to verify this?
If my taramp has no bass knob hook up can I hook a knob up to the LC6I and control the amp from there???
If you're getting an lc6i or if you already have one I would suggest you to get a better bass amp than using a taramps.
@@DayV914 I have the 3k smart not really feeling it already thinking about changing it out thanks for the reply
@@scatdaddi3927 Is this a question related to the video?
Yes, you can use a knob to cut output on ch3 of the lci6. Basically a sub level control.
Smart 3 is a fine amp. Just set your controls on the side properly. Set crossover and subsonic by ear, ignore the markings printed on the panel.
This is my issue with this I have the original epicenter with the following issues
1 I hear voice coming from my sub that is on a mono amp
2 the remote does not work at all it does have led light working but does nothing
Any help be great
First things that come to my mind is low pass filter on your mono amp is tune that down to like 60 ish hertz to avoid the voices pushing through I have mine tuned about there a lil lower on my daily driver I have set to 50 on my daily driver but that’s because I have crazy cabin peak anything over 50 and remember it doesn’t completely block out things past 60 hz it just starts rolling off at that frequency so play with it a bit I just wouldn’t push anything past 80 and for the remote effect I recommend getting new cable and remote sounds like something is busted there if not that try to see if you can warranty your unit for a new one
What gadget do I need to enhance the bass I already have
Enhance it how? Change the output response? An equalizer can do that.
Will the epicenter work on a taramps BASS 8k I’ve heard taramps do not like anything over 2volts
i run it on 12k nothing happen.
@@kyngpayne.783 nothing happened 🤔
Audio control says it's not voltage booster but a cap for letting voltage through. If that makes sense.... It's only going to put out what ever voltage is running through it,and you can control that voltage cap by opening it up,and setting the switch
Yes, it will work fine with all amps. Just remember to feed it a full range signal. Then use a crossover to output only the bass from the amp.
will this thing send me to clip city?
That is up to you.
What do you do if your sub amp has a remote knob one also?
You use in conjunction with it
@@BreakersStereo Also if you get the Epicenter Micro and Audio controls ACR-4 it controls both the level of the Epicenter and also the level control for the sub so no need for the one from the amplifier
Can this cause an amp to over heat? And produce bad quality
No. It in no way has an affect on the amp. I would recommend having the settings correct on amp as always. I’ve had an epicenter for 5 years. It stopped working one day and I took subs out until I got another one. I won’t have a system without it.
How's it perfom with metal music?
It should work great. Especially if there's upper bass, but lacking the real low stuff.
@JasonWW2000 yeah. It works great. I've had one for the past 5 months.
Wait so is this an aftermarket amplifier or is this something that can be added to ur car system for better bass? Please reply
It can be added to your system
This is not an amplifier.
That the music doesn't naturally have.
epiccenter is a cheap way to force more bass onto music but the best way is with a helix dsp and director
Do certain Helix DSP have a bass restoration feature?
@@JasonWW2000 Helix has a SubExpander which works similar by adding a lower octave
@@chriscuthbertson Ah, Jeff seems to be implying an epicenter is not the best way to add bass. In my opinion, buying a full dsp just for the bass enhancement feature is not the best way. It seems a waste of money. Especially if you already have a dsp. I'm of the opinion that an epicenter is the best way to add bass. I'm not a fan of the Director either. The Conductor seems the better controller. This is the great thing about car audio. We all have our own preferences and opinions and there's lots of options. 👍
This works with any brand like pioneer or jbl?
sorry no
Yes, any device. You need to feed it a full range signal, or at least up to 1,000Hz and then its output goes to your amp. It goes between the music source and the amplifier.
@@JasonWW2000 no it has to match the head unit and receiver. it must have rca jacks
@@jessihawkins9116 No, you can add rca jacks to any music source, even a factory radio. If the voltage is too high, it can be reduced.
Pioneer and JBL are typically aftermarket head units that already have rca jacks. So why would they not work?
@@JasonWW2000 how do you add rca jacks to something that does not have them?
most people use the epicenter as a line driver
That's strange because its not a line driver. Unless AC are mistaken about their own device. IDK.
@@JasonWW2000 so what exactly is the epicenter micro ???, The original epicenter can take in 2v and put out up to 9.5v what else would you consider to be a line driver?
@@Furybeatsgme No, if you only feed it 2v, you get 2v out. Its basically a line out converter. If you feed it 15v it can reduce it to 10v, 7.5 or 5v.
Like I said, the folks at AC might be saying the wrong thing.
The Wavtech does say its a line driver.
@@JasonWW2000 gotcha
@@Furybeatsgme I've heard a lot of people say they use the Epicenter as a line driver, but I don't know if they ever confirmed that it boosted output voltage. Maybe they just assumed it did.
I checked the owners manual on the original, concert series epicenter and the Micro and it doesn't say that it boosts the voltage. It shows it can accept up to 15v and output up to 13.5v. Then it has the jumpers inside to limit output voltage. Neither one has a gain knob.
The Wavtech does say it's a line driver and it does have a gain knob. I think this shows it IS a line driver. (It can accept up to 40v)
I plan on getting either the Wavtech or the AC Micro and test it.
his dash lights dimming
He needs to do the Big 3 upgrade lol
I don't need one for 35-45hz. I need one for 25-35hz
Yes, they both play that low.
This guy not looking straight into the camera as he talks is throwing me off lol
Sorry but this device is unnecessary.
If you feel that. 👍
ahh the epicenter...the most inaccurate device known to mankind ...puts frequencies where it shouldn't be and never was there and never was supposed to be there in the first place...dumb piece of equipment..there is no RESTORATION ..there is just adding lower frequencies from reading the harmonics of the high frequencies and putting frequencies where really there shouldn't be any...this is often used for idiots who can't play above 64hz and their mids don't play below 180hz ....typical car audio people..you are loud..you are sub bass heavy ( 60hz - 40hz ) but you go no range ...64hz-180hz and thats where the bass is on old music ..
You seem bitter. Lol
lol looks like someone doesn’t know how to use one correctly, in the meantime son watch some videos how to use an epicenter properly oh and add learning how to tune car audio too. i won’t reply back but don’t hurt yourself learning how an epicenter is used properly lmao🤣
Oh, so it "adds" non-existent bass. I see... what a stupid gadget then. Not falling for this hype.
It's only for music that lacks bass like he said Spanish music does, but with the epicenter it sounds amazing.
If your a bass head you must have, makes the subs Hitt harder & cleaner
I’m Mexican but back then my dad would also use epicenter with Van Halen music. If it makes sense.
Stupid is acting like you understand something while incorrectly stating how it works and having no experience with it first-hand. It takes existing harmonics in the signal and duplicates them 1-2-3 octaves lower. It's not a stupid gadget, if you tried it you would understand. Your system would sound better and you would feel the bass more. But whatever.
@@eric.brooks yea what he said!!!!!¡