EP:2 BMW R1250GS/A Rallye - Software Update - Hidden Features in Menu & First Service Completed
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- BMW R1250GS Rallye: Software update and first service have been done, and we have a quick look at the menu system of the R1250GS and a hidden feature of the heated seat / grip button...
This is the second episode in this new series looking at the R1250GS. I am lucky to have this bike for a long-term test and review, and will cover several thousands of km over the coming weeks with the BMW R1250GS. I will share what I think about this amazing motorbike and the incredible BMW 1250 engine. We will discuss the positives and negatives and talk about optional extras and the BMW packs / packets you might add to your GS.
I will also release several “Tips and Tricks” episodes, for helping you understand how to use the TFT and menu system and how to get the maximum from the different riding modes and settings.
I hope to upload 1 new video each week during this first season, so please Subscribe and press the Bell notification button (This will help the channel grow and develop), and of course you will be notified when the next episode is uploaded. Thank you, Carl
If you have any requests or content suggestions about the BMW R1250GS series… just let me know.
Carl
00:00 Intro
03:45 Hidden Function - Авто та транспорт
Carl I understand the 2023 model will have the ability to turn off the self-cancelling indicators from the TFT. Do you know, from your contacts in BMW, whether this will be made available to earlier models like yours (and mine) through a software update?
Hi Peter, that is an interesting possibility. I would be surprised if BMW did this, but will ask.
If I receive a clear answer I will report back. Thankyou for sharing this.
Best wishes Carl
Option to turn the self-cancelling indicators off:
Hi Peter, sorry for the delay: I have just had a conversation with Herr Lindner from the BMW press office in Berlin, and he has confirmed 100% that the 2023 spec GS and GSA will have the option to turn the self-cancelling indicators off. Which I also think is great news… I will also mention this during the next episode which is Dynamic ESA Explained. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl, thanks so much for following that up with BMW, and do you think that will therefore be a feature that can be retro-fitted to 2022 bikes through a software upgrade?🤔
Hi Peter, I have asked that question but the press office in Berlin could not confirm 100%, so I am awaiting for a call back which might take them a while to decide if they are going to offer it.
I told them that I would like it retrospectively fitted during a software update and that several others would like it too.
Once I know... I will get back to you.
Carl
@@justthewayitis Have they called you back yet with more info?
Hello, I have seen so many videos on this subject, but no one explains in a professional, beautiful and clear way like you, easy, clear, simple and professional, thank you very much
You’re very welcome 🙋🏻♂️ and thank you for your comments about this episode.
Have a great week
Kindest regards Carl
After 1700 miles of winter riding ,I’ve just watch your video about tft , heated seat etc , just found out your quick link to long press of the switch and what that does , bloody hell , thanks mate
Hi Carl, lol.. smile. Next winter will now be easier for you. Glad you enjoyed it. How has your GS been like in terms of winter corrosion? Do you use ACF50 or something similar?
Best wishes Carl.
Done 10,000 miles on my GSA but I didn’t know about the heated switch on an off memory, Thanks😎
Hello TwoFour, your welcome. 👍Carl
Thanks Carl...I never knew that aboiut canelling the heated function instead of going into the menu...will check I have the update...thanks agian.
Hi Steve, i think the function worked on all versions of software. Simple to check on your bike, once you know its there.... You won't forget. heated seat and grips turned back on/off with a simple press.... Best wishes Carl
That's a great hook for your series since I don't recall seeing the heated seats/grips long press hint anywhere in the owner's manual. Looking forward to learning many more new tricks!!!
Hi Jim, thank you, I found it by mistake as owning a multistrada the menus are different and require a longer press for the heated grips. So that was a nice surprise. I hope you enjoy the series. Carl
Wow! My new bike has heated grips! Learning a lot. Thanks.
Hi Loren glad you are enjoying the series. Have you got heated seats to ?
That feature makes perfect sense! I could have used that recently on a multi-day ride in the cold. :)
Hi Matthew, welcome 👍, thank you for your feedback. Carl
great, have a 2019 reg Rallye 1250 te but a lot of what you cover is relevant. many thanks
Hi William, you are welcome, and i hope you enjoy the series. Carl
Very interesting....I was just at my BMW dealer today asking about Firmware updates. Good info/tutorial on the heated grips.
Hi Stan, your welcome for the tip. The extra 2 hours in takes for the Firmware update is definitely worth it. Enjoy the series Carl
Awesome tips!
Hello and welcome, thank you 👍 glad you enjoyed that episode. Best wishes Carl
I Loved the way you explained it.
Thanks a lot!
Hi Adrian, good morning and thank you. 👍
Just bought one of these and the tips are awesome!
Hi Bulls, welcome to the channel and glad you are enjoying the tips and hints. They are lovely bikes, which version did you choose?.
Carl
I’ve had my GS 12 months and I didn’t know that about the long press on the heated grip button. Very useful , thankyou.
Hi Hartley, welcome to the channel. Perhaps you can check that this also works for you and let the other viewers here know what year and model you have. Best wishes Carl 👍
@@justthewayitis My Bike is a 2021 R1250GS Triple Black. Software is 022_007_020. I have grips and heated seat. I checked out the long press function and it does work on my bike
Hi Hartley, that's great news and thankyou for checking your GS. Have a great weekend. Carl
Fantastic info ref the long press of the heat button. My 1st GS just happened to have heated seats, wouldn’t be without them now. Great channel and very informative vids on the GS. A well earned sub here.
Hi S M, and welcome to the channel 👍, I never thought about a heated seat before this GS arrived...but now I will not have a bike without one... absolutely brilliant idea. Best wishes Carl
Another thorough video....great info in all your videos.....subscribed!!!
Hello Frederico and welcome to the channel, thank you for Subscribing ✌️
Best wishes Carl see my other reply 😊
One of the reasons I got my GS1250 was the TFT screen. Crystal clear and easy to see all the info. It's got to be one of the best out there. I do like the five-stage heated grips on the latest GS...Just like the five-stage version on the 1200RT. My 2019 GS only has the two-stage..warm & burn your fingers off.
Hello Mike and welcome to the channel, yes the TFT screen is lovely and I agree its probably the best one currently available although the 2022 RT with its 10" version is nice too. Carl
Thanks a lot for sharing your videos… VERY HELPFUL. I did not know about this feature and already wondered/dreamed about how cool and useful such an option would be. A really great tip!!!
Thanks and look forward to watching your next videos.
Hi Max, welcome. Glad you are enjoying the series. We are never to old to learn.. smile Carl
Great video. Keep up the good work 👍🏼
Thank you. 👍
Great vid, thanks Carl.
Thank you 🙏
Your going to have fun when your new GSA arrives 👍
Carl
Shifting your attention into a menu to adjust the grip settings is good example of why I am in no hurry to give up my old Camhead. A simple three position switch for adjusting grips is infinitely superior IMO in terms of ease and safety.
Hi Ezbeemer, your probably right. 😏. Best wishes Carl
I just picked up a new GS. Thank-you for the menu shortcut. I learned something new!
Hi Bruce, welcome to the channel, glad this tip helped you. Best Wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis have to ask a question. What bar riser is that?
Hi Bruce, these are going to be covered in a later episode, but as you have spotted them...Voigt MT handlebar riser with offset, about 30mm up & 24mm back, for GS & Adventure! . Item number: 26869. Made here in Germany... the quality is amazing and they look very different too. Carl
I've been riding my GSA for a year and had no idea about the long press. I've often left the grips and seat off because I didn't want to fumble with the menu to turn them off later during a ride. Thank you for this tip and listing the latest SW version. Just got my bike back from the 12 month inspection and forgot to ask if they did any updates. Thanks for the great video.
Hi Correy, good morning... the new software update also seem to have also improved phone connection and intercom connection. Glad you enjoyed the episode, Carl
Thanks did not know that about the heated seat and grips.
Hello Beetrek, your very welcome. I hope you enjoy the series. Best wishes Carl
Excellent
Hi Eric, Thank you, Carl
Hi Carl, very thankful for your videos... hoping your "connected" video drops soon! Would love to know the ins and outs of phone, Cardo, TFT, Nav, etc... please and thank you, cheers!
Hi Michael, thank you, yes I do need to make that episode, thankyou for reminding me. Best wishes Carl
Hi Carl. Thank you for an excellent channel of knowledge! I have a comment on your demo of how to adjust the heat level on the grips of the 1250 GSA. I have a 2023 model but without seat heating. On those GSA`s that only have heated grips it is not possible to set an individual heat level on the grips with the “short cut access”. You can only select pre set level 1 & 2 and “OFF”. I checked with my BMW dealer and they confirmed this.(I do have the latest software upgrade). May be you can mention this on a later video? Again thank you for your tutorial skills!
Hi Anders, thank you for the information. I’m not yet 100% sure of what I’m about to mention, but I’m told that you can add more levels of adjustment to your heated grips using the GS911 unit. I have one but haven’t tried it yet. I’ll make a video later in the year about the features you can add using the GS911 module.
Maybe you can find more information on your local GS forum
Regards Carl
Nice one with the heated seat and grip button I will try that
Hi Andy, please let me know if it works for you too. I think its possibly only a function for models with heated seats... but I could be wrong. I only have the one bike to test on, perhaps other owners could test this function as well and post feedback. Carl
@@justthewayitis ill go look now I have the gsa with heated seats
Just went and tried it works a treat 😁
@@justthewayitis next week I'm going to do a 6 months owners review on mine ..likes dislikes ext and mine is the factory lowered gsa
Brilliant news, thanks for checking 👍Carl
if you need any pics of what happens without cylinder protection I have several. I have now rebuilt 3 r1200/1250 with damaged rocker covers
Hello and welcome, if I might suggest something, why don’t you film the next one you repair and upload it to UA-cam I’m sure it would be interesting for a lot of owners to see what happens. But Thank-you for making the offer to send pictures
Best wishes Carl
Great video
And I like your voice and your ENGLISH pronunciation very much. 😀
Hallo Thomas, Herzich Willkommen und vielen Dank. Carl
Good morning Carl (or is it Karl?), Thanks for an informative video and no, the sales guys didn't tell me about that feature ! I notice that you have up and back bar risers, did you need to alter any of the brake/clutch cabling, or is there enough play? Cheers.
Hi Andrew, its Carl, no cable adjustment required (35mm up and 25mm back) and yes there is enough room / free play. Glad you are enjoying the series, best wishes, Carl
@@justthewayitis Many thanks Carl.
Hi carl don’t know if you can help me but we’re can find a switched live on my 1250 gs I am trying to install a accessory distribution box . Thanks in anticipation. Love your informative videos 👍
Hi Mila, welcome to the channel
There are several connection points you can use as a Trigger that is live with ignition on. The
Tail light plug is normally a great place, use the Blue wire which has a brown stripe for example.
Or you can use the USB feed at the front which only has live with ignition on.
As the system is canbus you can only use this as a trigger feed for your PDU.
You don’t mention your location geographically has this has an impact on wire colours used
Carl
Agree, the display and software is great. I had the Multistrada 1260 for 2 years, but the display and software just didn't functioned. And how about the navigation in the app. It's great and works perfect in conjuction with the display
Hi Antoine and welcome, yes I will release more episodes about the App and menu. The 1260 is a nice bike too. Carl
Hi Carl, I also have a Cardo intercom, mine is a Packtalk Bold, and when connected to the TFT and listening to music, if I turn my head left, it keeps stopping the music (mine is mounted on the left side of the helmet - BMW R1250GS 2021 with latest firmware). Do you also experience such thing? Do you have any suggestions? Many thanks.
Hello Joäo, good morning. We also use pack talk Bold, there has been an issue with these units since the new (two months ago) app update and i have been very disappointed with Cardo. perhaps you can send Cardo an email and let them know about your problem. Best Wishes Carl
Good Evening Carl, had interesting conversation with my BMW dealer this morning as was enquiring about having my software updated to that in your video. I was told that BMW Motorrad has now instructed its dealer network not to offer software updates as a matter of course? Said updates are only to be offered to resolve a specific issue. Apparently the way it was sold to me - their rationale being that said updates cause more issues than they solve?
Hi Jon good evening. Might I gently suggest, that your dealer service department is just being awkward, the real reason is possibly…
The software update takes between 2 and 2.5 hours, and depending on where “physically” in the workshop the PC update equipment is located, (normally its located in one specific work bay) dealers do not (if they are busy or its holiday season) like to take up this space for 2.5hours with none profit generating work, like a free software update.
I think if you started to experience connectivity issues between your devices (TFT, Navi and phone), they would do the update. Wink / wink / smile…
The software updates do improve things.
Kindest Regards, Carl
Great video, thanks for the handy tip. Now, can you figure out a quick way to reset the trip odometer? 😉
Hi Adam....LOL...i might fail that task !!!
That would sure be nice.
Hi Bill, I hope BMW add an extra function to one of the buttons, so that the trip reset is much easier 👍 on the 2023 onwards GS.
The hidden DUAL function of the heated element button, on the right - handlebar, is revealed in this episode -------- Carl
Car you should make a deep analysis of the BMW CONNECTED navigator...I consider it a great lost opportunity from BMW...perfect for commuting on normal paved road or highway..but completely useless if you may ride in the bush/offroad/gravel roads...the problem is the TOM TOM...the perfect bike for the "adventure" does not a proper navigator...thanks if you may investigate why BMW is missing this opportunity and still continue to work with TOM TOM
Hi Luke, generally I don’t use the connected app for navigation I use the Navi 6 which I really like mich more than the Garmin XT or Tom Tom but your suggestion is now noted 👍 and added to my list of things to look into.
I do agree off-road it’s fairly poor ( the app)
Carl
My dealer was not aware of this update, does it apply to UK variants or is it only applicable to DE versions? My 2019 R1250GSA bike is in for a new exhaust to fix the flap sticking and is also getting the new update from version 001_019_180 to the new march update hopefully.
Hi Roland, I am not 100% sure if it's a global update or only for DE, it makes more sense if it's a global version. I find the start up sequence much quicker, not that it was slow before. I hope they sort out the sticking exhaust valve, it's a common issue on many makes and models. Carl
Hi Carl did you ever do a video on how to connect the 4 devices, TFT, PHONE CARDO & sat nav?
Hi Derek, no I didn’t, sorry it’s one of the videos that’s still on my list ( long list ) to make.
So much to do currently.
I have been at the ABR festival in the uk all week and currently heading back to Germany.
Carl
@@justthewayitis No problem Carl,thanks hope you enjoyed the ABR
@derekcowan2373 it was great 👍 thank you.
Hello how can I cover the speedometer so that with the gopro you can't read the speed, in video editing, it becomes a big job with very long times there is nothing you can put so that the camera can't read the speed speed?
You can do this in editing or just use a sticker on your TFT / dash
Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis Danke
kein Problem. Ich bin gerne behilflich
It is so much easier on my 2012 RT. 1 button for the heated grips and one for the seat. I just need to cycle through the heat levels. This must be so disappointing to now have to go through complex menus when it could be done instantly 10 years ago... 😵
Hi David, welcome. Lol... yes indeed.
I always long press buttons, just to see if something happens!!!! I got interested in buttons when I found out about bmw cars hazard button! Pull it out, rotate it 180 and push back in....car would start!!!!
Hi Terry welcome to the channel and thank you for sharing 👍
Regards Carl
Hello, I apologize for the interruption, my name is Andrey and I would like to know in "Road" riding mode, is it possible to set the D.T.C Traction Control to maximum grip mode? I apologize for the question and my lack of knowledge and I would be very happy to receive your help on the subject, thank you very much Andrey
Hi Andrey, welcome to the channel. You can only make changes to DTC in Dynamic Pro Mode.
In Road Mode it is fixed.
Carl
@@justthewayitis Dear sir I asked so many riders and only you really helped me I want to thank you for the answer
Your very welcome 🙏
Hi. The hidden feature is a long press of the heat button? With all due respect, I think this is pretty intuitive and have been using it from day one.
Hi Eugene and welcome. Well it was news to me and to many other owners too (see comments). Glad you found and used it from day one not every one has been so lucky, and not all dealers tell you this when you collect your GS. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Cheers!
Do i not have the right grip heat grip features i can only turn it it on
Will it be available after my first service
Hi Paul, please explain what heated grip features you currently have. And which model and specification you have.
Carl
FYI only get 5 heat settings on the heated grips if you opted for the heated seat option
My only gripe with the controls is that you have to be stopped to adjust the suspension settings anyway, so why not put that on the right side so with my left hand I can hit the Ride Mode/Heated Grips options without having to turn on cruise control or slow down from engine braking. Maybe I just need longer thumbs though 😆
Hi Johnathan, that’s true for only the Pre-load setting (Min-Auto-Max)
Damper settings Dynamic and Road can be selected while riding and so can a change of Ride Mode be made while riding.
Plus, if you choose your favourite 2 modes on the right bar you can switch between them without looking.
Some say to many buttons…
Some say not enough buttons…
Lots to learn and it does take time. Smile 😊 have a great day Carl
@@justthewayitis Very true, the bike is still quite new to me and if that's literally the only personal gripe I could have, I think that's not too bad 😃 Have a great day as well Carl!
Just taken delivery of a 2023 GS and they are back to the same two position heated grips as I had on my old GS. I feel a bit short changed as the 2nd position burns your hands and the 1st is look warm
Hi Stuart, did you spec the heated seat option ? Because I think that then … with that option ticked, you automatically get the 5 heated seat and grip settings. But the dealer really should have made this clear to you. I hope that apart from that, your super excited with your new GS.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks Carl, due to component shortages you cant order the heated seat at the mo,ment. The new bike is superb. I love all the new tec as my 2017
GS had the analogue clocks
Ok, I knew about the headlight issue due to shortages but not the heated seat. Thank you 🙏
Hi, does anyone know how to check what is the latest available software for the bike from 2020? Any website link to check it? Or maybe you guys know it?
Hello Jaro, good morning Its in the menu system under Software version, last page to the right
Carl
Thank you, I meant the latest version available from BMW that could be loaded to TFT.
The simplest thing to do is write down your software version and then ask your dealer if it’s the latest version for your bike as there are some differences between year model’s
Most dealerships will do this over the phone
Carl
What was wrong with having a heated grip switch? That did exactly the same without the faff!
Hello Graeme, thank you for the feedback, I presume you watched the episode to the end where I highlighted the hidden feature that allows you to use the heated element switch in the same way as the older systems. If only BMW told there customers of this extra feature it would make a lot of users very happy. Best wishes Carl
My TFT on the bottom left shows degrees of "---F" i dont get a temperature listing... what gives?
Settings
System settings
Units menu
It’s all in the owners book, let know if you have further problems with changing it
Carl
@@justthewayitis found the issue. found were it was located and it was unplugged for some reason. still in its socket just not snapped in. not sure how it came loose. but now all is good
Well done 👍
Great detective work 🙋🏻♂️
Hi Carl. please 🙏 can you subtitle this video in Spanish, I'm intrigued, my bike is the same as yours BMW GS 1250 Rally 2023 front and rear Brenbo brakes, not Haynes and it doesn't have those options, please
Hi Pedro, ok I’ll do them tomorrow and message you once they are done 👍
@@justthewayitis Muchas gracias
Hasta ahora comencé en el episodio 1 y terminé hasta el episodio 9 en español. Haré más después.
Carl
Well they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks , so after 1 year I learn a different way to do this many thanks, I will forward to my dealer her in N.I. they need educated ...lol
Hi RMG, great news, if you could let me know here if it works for you and which model/year you have. Thankyou Carl
@@justthewayitis Yes it did work is a 2021 r1250 gs triple black sent a vid to you
Hi RMG, thats great news, I am pleased it works for you too. Have a great weekend. Carl
Just had a look on your channel, are they Road 5'S on your TB ?, and how have you found them ?... some owners say the front is noisey. Carl
@@justthewayitis Hi Carl
Yes they are road 5 they are superb and not noisy, The anakee is noisy , I raced and always looked at tyres as black sticky and round, but on a 18k bike with your good lady you need to be a little more sure. Two up and 100mph in the wet these are better than the tyres I raced on in the 90's great confidence, back gets about 8k front around 11 k so not bad .
I was this year's old when I learned that there's a long press feature for the heating elements. 😳 You can learn new stuff from an Eastender.
Lol...great. I hope you enjoy the series. Carl
@@justthewayitis on that note, it says there are four vids in that playlist but two are hidden. 🤷🏻♂️
Error corrected: These were videos i am currently editing. I release one per week and this week its the 9th episode of the Multistrada series. The continuation of the GS series (of which there many more to come) will follow after that. Carl
Can you use to update the bikes software?
Hi Ken, sorry I don’t understand your question about software updates?
Please ask again using different words
Thank you Carl
My mistake! I was on the wrong video! I was previously watching a. Video of the GS911 tool for these bikes!
Ah ! Ok now that makes sense Ken. BMW firmware / software updates only come from bmw, so no you can’t add new software, you can make changes to it via the gs911 but you need be be aware that doing so immediately invalidates your warranty!!!
I like the GS911 and it’s a great tool for diagnosis and workshop use. But be careful!!
Carl
plz i have 1250 tft i want to change theme how
Hi there, I don’t fully understand your question , you can’t change the theme or look on the dashboard on a 1250gs.
Please ask your question again more clearly
Carl
i have tft bmw gs 1250 adventure i want to change theme to BMW LC
not the theme i mean the picture of gs adventure/lc/ f800...etc on tft
Sorry it’s not possible…
BMW completely failed at the interface and hardware of the digital dash. Best described by the title of this video. 'Hidden Features' If BMW was doing their job well, there wouldn't be 'Hidden Features'.
Hi, I think some BMW dealers are aware of this feature and do inform new owners, but its clear some do not know about this. This is why I released a video about this tip. I do like the dashboard but the one thing that could be much better, is an easy simple way to reset the standard trip meter. Best wishes Carl
Carl, i have the same software you have when i bought my S1000XR 4 mos ago. i have too many problems like cardo, TFT and iphone. music constantly disconnects. i insisted my bmw tech to do a running check and they found out there is a new SW updates! i am rocking this version for over 2 weeks now and all my issues were gone specially with music. no more cutting audio. the software version is 023_11_060. ask for a running check because they will tell you overnight! it will say at first 2hrs for the update but when it rolls it will take only 20mins for the update.
Hi Ad78, brilliant feedback, I actually have to call my dealer to speak to them this week, so I will ask about the new software update. Thankyou 👍Carl