BUYERS GUIDE Camaro Vs Nova - They Are NOT THE SAME CAR!
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- After all the Camaro "fitment" controversy I decided to do a video of the Camaro and Nova side by side. Well you will see it here first! All the difference between the 2 cars. There is some cross over but they are much more different than ya think!
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Dan, are you trying to convince yourself or us. You want to move forward with the Nova and some of us "like" a Camaro better. Honestly that is 100% your call. I say I love this channel and I am totally fine with you making that call. It is your call with your cars. You have no obligation to explain or even worse to justify your decision. For the first time ever I didn't "like" a video from DD. Just move on. Just remember, "you can please some of the people some the time, but never can you please all the people all the time". Now go on with your bad self. Life's to short to worry about this stuff. Peace!
Dan, stop explaining! The Danmaro is for sale. Period! It's your money, they're your cars! You saved that Camaro, which was a hunk of rusted junk. No one was more heartbroken than me and I've accepted it. 💔 I'm still watching. You're still the best!
I agree! I said it before and I’ll say it again, you like what you like! That’s all there is to it.
You don’t have to explain yourself to anyone. You want the Nova so drive it and keep it.
I knew what was coming when I saw those bucket seats. Those seats belong in a motor home, not a sports car. No way was that ever gonna work. 😳
@@jamesf4405 pfffft
@bobsch-gd6ze better check your drawers Bob, that one sounded wet! 💩
Speaking as a large human, 6'3" 270, the windows sloping in creates a space shortage for my shoulders. I can't even get the door closed in a Corvette. Large people definitely have problems with interior dimensions. Most headrests are shoulder height. Grrrrrrr!
That Nova is going to look so good with the black vinyl top on it… and cage painted black.
I feel the vinyl top is a must for the Nova. IMO with that color it needs the black top to break things up. I’m assuming you’re going to attempt that install yourself and I’m actually really looking forward to seeing that process diy. Just don’t let Dani put any glitter or pink accents on it if you can help it. (Unless that’s your thing 🙃)
End of the day, Yes it’s your money and your hotrod. I’ve been daily driving a 70 GTO the past 40+ years. I get compliments all the time, and I occasionally catch crap that it needs a proper restoration. No it doesn’t! I care about the car yes, but I’m not concerned about door dings, or driving it in the weather. It’s got a 455 Pontiac with Fast Fuel Injection, 71 455 HO heads, Ram Air 4 cam, hooker headers with 40 series flowmasters. T 56 six speed, 373 gears, 2004 GTO disk brakes, that took a little butchery to make work. Classic Air AC, Car is pretty much what I want it. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks is cool, or right!
Sounds like my kinda car…….drive it, enjoy it
Yes sir as long as a vehicle is fundamentally safe, the appearance is what matters to the owner. Your car is a driver and if it has a few battle scars, so what.
Perfect ride
What gas mileage?
You gotta have a core fleet that you really love. Cars you know you'll regret selling. Everything else can be a flip. When I moved to the country, I had to sell off some stuff, but the core fleet were all vehicles I had owned for 20+ years. The test for everything else was "have I driven it much in the last year?" That made selling much easier.
Almost five years since the move and no regrets.
I never gave any thought to differences in wheelbases until you showed just how vital it can be. Very cool to learn something new.
Yeah folks! This channel is about Hot Rodding, not making good decisions.
I remember back when I had 3 first Gen. Camaro's & a 69 Chevelle. I lived in a rented mobile home then but I finally wised up, sold all the cars.
That gave a a good down payment on my property & house.
I was no longer throwing money out the window & I am much better off for sure.
Got married, had 2 kids & never owned a Hot Rod since, LMAO.
I like that statement Keith. As hot rodders we are not known for our good decision making.
New carburetor or pay the water bill ? I know what I would do in that example.
Dan that's a motor , you put motor oil in it !!! And their motor mounts not engine mounts !!!
My dream car has always been a 69 camaro and when I bought one and drove it around, I realized that I didn't want to drive it for any distance at all and I'm only 5ft 10in
I can't believe how much I better i feel in our 1977 trans am which you would never think would be more room but it's a big difference.
I had a 67 camaro and it's still my favorite. But I totally support ya on this .. exactly it's what Dan wants..
the only reason ya need to sell any car is cause " ya said so!" nuff said!
Hey Dan. Paul here. I watch all your videos. I like what you do. Not gonna lie. Some of the stuff you do make me squint a little. I wish you lived near me so I could help uncomplicate your life. But I do see the genius in your butchery. I used to be a collision repair and paint tech. And I restored classic cars at home. I have had both 67 camero and a 72 nova. Loved them both. Along with several other cars. I currently have a 4th gen Z28. I barely fit in. 6 foot 3 275.
Hey Dan and Danielle, Like you said, " it's my car and what I feel better in " I agree 💯. It's what makes you happy. Love your channel and all your videos along with all your cars. Take care and be safe.
Dan when you do the Nova consider chrome window frames on the side.
Screw what anyone has to say . It's yours and you can do whatever the hell you want. You don't owe anyone an explanation.
That Camaro will make someone a good car and you have give it a second life is likely would have never known. Thanks for sharing your journey!
I agree Dan. With the design of the Camaro. BUT the Nova is equally designed. I like it Too. IT is unique
Ignore those who love to tell others what to do. It’s just another Camaro, not exactly anything out of the ordinary. Seems about every other car show there’s at least a half dozen.
All I can say is do what makes you happy, just be safe doing it!!
I had a less cool 77 nova and my buddy had a 1969 Camaro we both liked what we liked back in the day. I can only speak for me but i like both of your cars that are currently up for discussion. You have the ability to choose which cars you keep or sell and we are supposed to be “Along for the ride” I personally enjoy watching you repair the issues with the cars you buy! Saving and sharing old cars is your lot in life. Keep it up!!
Dan. You know your stuff about your cars. No matter what it is that you do. Explaining the theory of Hot rods to the people. Keep up the great work.
All engines are motors, but not all motors are engines.
A cars drivetrain is from the flywheel to the hub and everything between.
I miss my childhood cars especially the first two I bought. The first one was a running driving 68 firebird 421cu turbo automatic 12 bolt 411 gear = $500 140k miles and a 68 Camaro rebuilt 350cu 10over with 194 vette heads and i swapped the engine out from a 76 P/U with the bell housing and 11” clutch and had a borg Warner 4sp taken from out of the smashed corvette from a guy up the street and a 10 bolt posi frame extensions widened tubs with 12” Mickey Thomson tires mounted on SST’s on the back and 5” skinny’s American racing. What fun cars then I bought a 70 1/2 Camaro with a Pontiac 455ci done 30over radical comp cam I don’t remember the lift specs 6-71 blower M22 Muncie hurst linkage 12bolt 383’s that I’d swap out with I think it was 488’s or something like that for showing off pulling wheelie scrapped up my exhaust tailpipes and the exhaust wasn’t welded and the one time the pipes slipped out of the U- style clamps when I gunned it Lol ! I miss all my cars and trucks my purple 74’ AMC gremlin V8 mom gave me and her smashed 57 hardtop 57’ 2dr black and white Chevy her younger brother side swiped 9 cars when he stole her keys, 74 Cadillac 472ci I was going to swap drivetrain into my 79’ Monte Carlo but life got away from me had 2 children and a wife, 78’ Cordoba, 71’ Custom LTD esquire sta. wagon and 76 P/u truck, 80’ Chevy G30 Van , 67’ Catalina all at the same time and as much as I wanted to keep them all my family grew and all my projects went bye bye’s and most of these vehicles were just given to me I bought about 4-5 of them by the time I was 22 I only had the 70 Camaro left and some asshole put diesel fuel in my gas tank and I literally gave up on it and bought a 84 olds delta 88 and moved far away from the shit town I lived in Bloomfield New Jersey which I think the cops could of done it as they were as bad as the mobsters that lived in that town back in the mid to late 80’s and nowadays I had someone smash their heavy machinery into my machine and it injured me (long story) 20 years later deterioration caught up to me and now I’m disabled unable to work. anyway you or no one who reads this would need to know the crazy details about the bad luck Ive gone through. Anyway to much information. I just wanted to express the things I miss and I love that 67’ Camaro regardless it’s not manufactured correct I don’t care about that hey if it runs , stops, drivable and can pass inspections and no rust that’s what hot roddin is all about. I wish I had the money to buy it and I’d drive it everyday and the only thing that I’d change on the body is I prefer the L88 hood 👍 good luck and keep up with your passion i like that you are saving basket cases and making them roadworthy again 🇺🇸 right on DD speed shop ! (Dude and Doll)😁bringing the nomad back from a pile of nothing was awesome that suits you I hope you never get rid of it. The end!☀️t
the nova roof is a little longer which allows the rear seat to sit farther back and gives a little more room in the interior plus the 3 inches long wheel base adds to the interior space too.
I think if you compare the two roofs front to back and the inside dash to package tray, you will find there is more space in the Nova. You have more headroom as well in the nova especially at the rear because of the roof design.
Trees in the back ground look great … spring has sprung !
Dan, keep the tape measures away from the wives because if they find out how much 3"s really is, us guys will all be in big trouble! 😂😂😂 Keep up the great work and Nova for the win!
Speak for yourself brother! 🙃
Having worked on both I believe a lot of your problem is the aftermarket seats. But no matter it's your ride do what you want
When you look at the 2 cars head on, the Camaro windows look to slant in where the Nova seems to be much more vertical. Probably makes it feel much smaller inside as well.
Bottom line: They're Both yours... Keep the one you like, and shut out the Noise, of all the Negative Nancy's.... 👍👍👍
I understand what you’re saying. I street rodded a model A coupe. When I finished I couldn’t even get in never mind sit in it. I had to do some mods to ti fit in. I’m about 5” 10”. Dan would never fit in or be comfortable. People that don’t build cars just don’t understand. You don’t have to explain to me.
measure from the front of the door to the back of the rear fender that should show the diference
The top of the roof where the side window touches the roof on the camero is much more narrow than the nogo i think that is the biggest problem with taller people and the windshield leans back several inches closer. But at the same time this is what makes the camera look much more racing car . Great told you that you would miss the wagon. A favorite of mine a 65 2 door chevelle never been able to find one that is cheap enough. Like both cars equally dan not only do you have a fantastic girlfriend you have the tough time of deciding what hot rods to keep and what to keep for now . Can't really be jealous because you earned it by working long days and working full time. This shows what hard work can do for anyone. Thanks for the inspiration and taking us along for the fun.
Everyone has different thoughts and preferences on the vehicle that they like. If we all had the same thoughts and preferences we would ALL be driving a pink Geo Metro. 😂
Thank God for creating us with thoughts and preferences. 😁
I am 6 foot 6 inches tall. The #1 concern when buying cars, and I have owned a thousand, is ALWAYS do I fit? Current daily, the small Ford CMax.
I’ve had a couple of each, and I’m glad they both exist. I like your Camaro but I love your Nova.
Would rather have that Nova too!
Good choice keeping the Nova, personally I wouldn't add a Vinyl Roof to it, but that's just me, it's your car...
Nova has a taller roof,and seat to headliner measurement,can make a huge difference
You have a golden opportunity to turn the 67 and 68 Camaros into giveaway cars for people that buy shirts or whatever. Budget finish them obviously. Could turn this 67 into a pile-o-cash from the sales then another build series on the 68 for the same outcome = property paid for from 2 cars.
"Its my car " says it all in my book.
A nice Nova is a super cool car. A friend of mine built a nice black 70 with 396/4 speed with black interior. Looked killer just standing still.
Totally respect your decision Dan. Doesn’t mean I have to like it. You took us through The Camaro project and stopped before finished. Bummer. Camaro vs Nova, Camaro wins every single time.
Really who cares what people think? Have they got any time or money in it. Keep on keeping on, love all your videos.
Having own both cars. 1969 Rs Camaro and 1971 Nova Clone
I loved the look of Camaro but drove the Nova the most it was just a all round fun car and comfortable
Hey Dan what ever you want to sell or keep is fine with me as long as keep these videos rolling. I enjoy every last one.
I love your Nova !
Ultimately, it's your money, your time, and your cars. Keep them both, sell them both, or sell only one, I'm just enjoying the videos. If it were MY money, I'd have a '69 Olds 442. I watch your videos because I like you, and you're fun. All the best to both of you.
I drive a 78 2 door small block 327 in my nova r 4 trans stall converter 373 gears its just a little hotrod
I bet it is, NICE.
I had worked 327's in a first Gen. Camaro's, GREAT ENGINE.
If I was building a car to win a popularity contest or make more money selling it, give me a Camaro. If I were building the car I like better, gimme a Nova. That being said, we have an '87 Camaro convertible for our hot rod/cruiser. It's what we could afford. Nice paint, nice interior, good running V8 car for $1700. I'll probably have $3500 in it when Im done.
6'6", 270lbs with bad knees. I added 4" extensions and fit in my 67😀
Your cars, so your decision! I LOVE all your cars and videos, there is no bad decisions when they are yours!
I like em both and I've never drove either, but I wouldn't drive it if I wasn't comfortable.
I'm 6'1" and I'm having a difficult time getting in and out of my 3rd Gen. Camaro but have no problems with space once I'm in . Of course I'm 72 years old so gettin in and out of any car is a hassle. They are either too high or too low. Comes with the age I guess. The cars are yours and its your decision . Good luck.
I have a 65 chevelle I'm about to start working on. I'm 6'4" 275 lbs I should probably put seats in it before I do any work. Any big guys out there have a 65 chevelle?
I have two ‘65s. You’ll fit fine. I’am 6’2 260lb
Plus they both had low back stock bucket seats….
@@macho4x4warlock98 thanks, his video had me concerned. Lol. I was going to get seats and throw them in.
I followed you when you started doing the nova on the channel. Glad your keeping it
I had a 68 Cutlass that I was driving. Bought a 67 firebird in pieces. Put the firebird together and I didn't like it after the first test drive. Sold the firebird.
Basically the roof line is different. I'll tell you there's a slight difference in the wheel. The wheel def the wheel base but other that there's not much. It uses the same exact front end as a Nova.
Depending on the year.
You pick the same year and is the same exact year. Just like the rear ends, they use exact same same.
Hey Dan you need a shop and that's that, I've always built things fixed them up and sold them to further myself and most people do and then get what I wanted, life is short so make the best of it,
The camaro my friend had needed multi leaf springs we went to the salvage and got some off a Nova. But Im not saying they are the same car at all. But some parts do interchange.
You go Dan, love the nova. Can’t wait for the build.love your videos keep doing you,and I’ll definitely keep watching.
I bought a '61 Studebaker Champ Pickup thinking it would make a great gasser, lightweight, straight axle, room for big V8, full frame, etc. I knew sheetmetal wouldn't be a problem since the Champ body is just the front half of a Studebaker Lark 4dr. So I bought one from a buddy and had him haul it to VA from Tx only to discover I don't fit. I can get in and operate the controls, but at 6'1" and 235lbs, I can do about 30 mins before I'm wrecked and barely able to get out and walk. But I fit in a '61 Lark, 2dr or 4dr with zero issues. The seat in the Champ can't go back past the back edge of the door. On the car, it still has like 4" to go.
D'OH!
I see you gave Dani the smart end of the tape measure
Ultimately they're your cars to do with as you please. Both are very nice,I would think people would be happy you're selling the camaro so they could buy it
Man the camaro turned out so sexy 😍 but they're definitely not a huge car. I never realized a nova was that similar in size to a camaro, I always thought they were bigger
Hey Dan it might help to get the original seats and the original seats are lower profile for sure I had a 67 the original seats fit 100% better then a high bucket seats
Fortune Dan. You have enough cars to be able to choose the ones that are keepers as far as your enjoyment! And in the process, you are sharing the wealth.. have a great day.
I can't believe nobody has bought the Camero yet, watching the build was great and all it needs is a drive train. You would have a car with a video assembly and get your local speed shop to build an similar engine.
It was sold in the last vid.
Sell the Camero and move onto the Nova.. Stop trying to convince people... You wouldn't wanna start to sound like Bad Chads ranting videos when he found a missing a body mount and a rust bubble on that 40 Ford that he bought In Ontario...lol
It already sold. I think he is trying to be helpful for other people who have been told that a Camaro and a Nova are the same car
camAro
Come on.
They're built on the same front platform, same rear suspension, the nova has a bigger body the sills up. I think they're a few inches longer in the rear seat area.
Same as what ford did with the fox body, Fairmont and t birds. Longer wheel base version of the same chassis
I would agree with that.
Bad Chad is such a tool, I lost total respect for him after several showings of bad character a year or so ago. The big one being when he flew to Ontario and purchased that gorgeous 37 Ford.
Neat little video ….. I love both cars and had a few novas … nova is still my fave
Little black Camaro is whispering," I want to be on a drag strip,looking cool and going really really quick !
Never been a huge Nova fan. Always thought they were kinda fugly compared to the Chevelle or Camaro of the day. Oddly enough I dont mind the 4th gen Nova. The square boxy style 75 to 79 I think they were. Maybe because I knew a girl in the late 80s that had one. She was absolutely stunning. So maybe she just made the car look better to me.
The wheelbase is shorter in the Camaro. The similarities end at the firewall and the generally shared GM parts.
Driven both of those cars. Definitely different cars. Both standard. I enjoyed the Camaro more than Nova. Great cars. Grew up around cars and mechanics.
That thick seat you installed in the Camaro was a bad idea. Been there and done that. That car was built with very thin not too supportive seats by GM. I think the engineers had it correct.
DON"T DO VINYL!
Afrermarket vinyl tops are not like the OEM tops! They wick in the rain water.
I restored my '67 Cougar, and went with the vinyl top. Less than 8 years later the vinyl held in enough moisture to completely rust out the roof, both C pillars, and the area behind the rear glass!
Now I have to restore it completely for the second time.
Cameras are for smaller people
Nothing worse than not been able to fit
Loosing minds over vinyl tops? I’d like to see a poll to vinyl top or not. My bucket list dream car is a 66-67 chevelle. I want a vinyl top car. Not a must have thing but I like them.
I'm 5 foot 8 inches and I fit in everything. I just like Novas better.
Dan, if you can't fit in the Camaro comfortably, I think you might want to sell me your Model-A. Lets face it , those cars are tiny. But I will do my best to squeeze my 6foot4 frame into it.
Having a 68 Camaro & a 74 Nova the Nova definitely is bigger inside, the Camaro seems too be a snugger fit.
The Camaro is more inclosed I guess is what I'm saying, they both are stick shifts with console gauges.
Hope you sell the Camaro for GOOD MONEY, A RATTY ROLLER IN THE STATES BRINGS GOOD MONEY PLUS YOURS IS JUST READY FOR ENG. & TRANS.
DON'T GIVE IT AWAY U WORKED UR AZZ OFF ON THAT RIG & IT'S STURDIER THAN NEW IMHO.
THINK HOUSE, THINK MORE LAND, THINK BIGGER GARAGE, THINK BIG DAN MY MAN.
Dan that happen to me I always wanted 1956 Ford will I got my wish. Will after owning and working on it and getting it 100% the way I wanted it. I must say it didn’t ring the bell like I thought so I sold at a loss but I was now happy.
One screen two movies .You see what you want to see .The evil Nova vs the good Camaro or the Camaro that ate Dan .
2nd Gen Nova's and 1st Gen Camaro share parts but the interior is a little smaller in the Camaro. I'm 6'2 I fit a Nova Chevelle Tri-Five C-10 (have 3 of the 4 now) just fine. A Gen 1 Camaro not so good especially with a 4spd and rollbar. A Gen 2 Camaro is Ok thou even with a 4spd and rollbar I've had 3 well actually 1 '70 Camaro and a '74 & '77 T/A. Both my son's a 6'5 and I like that they can ride with me occasionally in my vehicles going to a local car show and be comfortable doing it. Whats going on with the new 4 door to 2 door Tri-Five
I always wished there was more Nova content, so happy thats happening. No need to rationalize keeping it over the Camaro.
treat the nova roof-i put a vynal on my cutlass without sealing it well and it rusted under the vynal.
Hello you two. It is a simple solution. Keep the car you like. Easy peesy.
Go for the Nova, Dan. After all, it was one of your first builds and your Dad got it for you! All the best. Thanks for the daily vids, out of order, even. Lol 🇨🇦
It’s no one’s business what you do with your cars !! Stop trying to make people happy that really don’t matter because it’s your car. It’s bad ass and you worked your ass off making it sweet. Good luck dan .
Dan , for all the nay sayers on the internet who know better than the guy who puts his heartsnd soul into your cars you are saving from the crusher , tell them to start their own channel and do what they want so you can tell them how to do things . Just think the 67 Camaro started life as a 6 cylinder car not very desirable as a stock version . Keep doing what you do as I and many others appreciate what you do with a small two car garage(x2) With modest tools that most car guys have. I want to see all the keyboard warriors try and hold down a 40 hour job and spending every waking moment working on cars. Keep on Brother let them hate
One reason you have no room in the camaro is the seats you put in. The new ones are nice but very thick compared to the very thin original seats.
If you get the same year nova and the same year camaro you'll get to execute same year floor pan
You do what you got to do you guys
Im with Dannie on this one... The Nova is a WAY cooler car!!!
you'll find it's the seat height is the difference,low seats need more legroom
Go big tire on the Nova, fit it with some nifty fifties . Back seat delete. Butter nut yellow , black vinyl top ... 😊 just me lol
I don’t know why it’s anybody’s business drive what you want so what you want
If you would just put the factory bucket seat in it you would have had more leg room
speaking of doing what you want, I am engine swapping my truck from a 3 speed auto to a 5 speed manual, cause my starter died again you wouldn't believe how much attitude I got over it.