My dad and I always get all kinds of grief for it, but we both love the old school white gas Coleman stoves and lanterns. Something about them, the smell, the way you have to pump them manually. They have such a strong “yeah, I’m camping” vibe compared to modern plastic/propane stuff. The stuff is over 50 years old and still works great. They can sit for 10 years and then fire right up again, the gas has never gone bad. They’re just classic cool. 👍👍
I inherited a Coleman 426 three burner white gas stove that I have used for years now, recently I acquired the lanterns as well. There is something about the sound of white gas appliances that has that camping feel.
@@EclecticBuddha Except of course, in the winter, where the added heat from the gas lantern can be quite desirable. The other question is whether in 50 years, those LED lanterns will still be working - I've got naptha ones older than that still run like a charm.
Yeah I have the old mantle pump lantern too . One thing I’ll share , during the early 1950’s my father would melt Plumber lead on a pump up liquid gas blow torch .Once when he drew back the plunger to pump , gas had leaked behind the piston and shot gas from the vent hole and into his face which ignited. Fortunately he smothered it out with his shirt .
The problem with the old Coleman stoves is that once you buy one for around $10 dollars you have to buy EVERY one you find in the same price range. I used to go to garage sales every weekend and thrift stores so over the years I have accumulated so many that i just feel guilty if i see another one and don't buy it. Its almost like an illness. But if they're made to handle camping I feel like they'll basically last forever. The comments are a true testament to how great they are
Ooooff, I just started this cycle. Got my first one 5 days ago for $20, have since bought 2 more stoves, 6 lanterns, and am going tomorrow to see a lady with 3 more lanterns and 2 stoves. FB Marketplace has been feeding the addiction all week. All told I've only spent $120. Now I'm gonna start the journey of restoration...
I run a 3 burner Coleman suitcase stove when we are camping, the smell of white gas stoves burning brings brings back so many memories of camping with my family as a kid
I’ve had many stoves over the years. I’m full time and really put them through the paces. Most have broke or malfunctioned in short order. Others where just not suitable for my use or price was nuts. Last year I came across a Coleman 425E in new condition and bought it for $15.00 usd. I replaced the rubber pump gasket with the leather one. 2 for $9.00. I purchased the propane adapter $21.00. So I can use gasoline or propane. I also mounted piezoelectric starters for each burner. $6.00. $51.00 total and It all fits inside the steel case. It’s the best hard use multi-fuel stove I’ve ever had. Easy parts replacement because it is a classic collectors stove. Parts are all USA or Canada. Hands down.. Bang for the buck.. The old Coleman’s are the way to go….
Agree! I have 2 Coleman 425Es (one I rehabbed) and they are great especially in cold weather camping. Don't have to worry about your propane freezing up and a lot of BTU power. :)
It’s gone up in price like everything. You can not convert a propane Coleman stove to white gasoline. The 425E is about a 50 year old white gasoline stove.
I have a bunch of the 425 stoves for prepping, and bought the Dual Fuel model for prospecting in Alaska (gasoline and whitegas). I also have propane adapters for every stove. While propane is nice, 1 gallon of white gas equals 4 propane cylinders. My prepping stoves range from next to new to good condition, and were had in thrift stores for $2 - 15. For prospecting, I go with a brand new stove for each trip because, when I'm 30-50 miles out in the bush, it's no time for breakdowns of used equipment. Never had a trip yet where the old Coleman stove ever let me down! But even then, I carry spare parts. 2 is 1, and 1 is none! And the Coleman fuel lasts forever in those cans. Had a can that was opened and half full sit for 40 years. Still worked as good as new fuel!
Those Coleman stove are nice. But, I like the other style. Because putting a larger pan on the briefcase style is harder then the circular style open ones.
I wonder if there is a propane savings with the jet ? Speed factor in the type of camping that you do doesn’t really matter. Compact is the main factor, durability quality, and the durability and quality of the pans and handles is IMO what needs to be reviewed with some cooking “mileages” But I really wonder if there is any significant propane savings?
Do you think the pot n pan are high quality? Easy to clean? Handles? The folding mechanism of the stove? Do you think it would last for 10+ yrs as compared to the Coleman.? If my Coleman was to brake (as it almost did in a recent trip) it price was well worth it considering the many years of use I have gotten out of it.
Too bad you couldn’t get the vintage stove to work. But looking forward to seeing your vintage items collection. You just might want to test them out that they are working as soon as you receive them in the mail before you attempt a video.. Although it was kind of cool to see you go through the trial. You showed a black Coleman; I wonder how it compares the boiling process with the red Coleman.
I have 8 of these old Coleman stoves from the early fifties to late eighties and 2 single burner and a back pack stove, I love these stoves and all work great.
@@stephenm8100 I did not realize just how old these are .. I have one that my father in law gave me and I have used extensively .. now need to look up just how old it is.
Started my collection with the y2k scare, I own 4 white gas stoves and a chrome single mantle kerosene lantern ( Coleman-1950’s) love generator style heating and lighting!
I have a one burner (with the cover thingy to be a heater) and still have the 3 burner. My 2 burner was stolen 😣 They my be older but made more durable & easy to get replacement parts. I also picked up the stove/oven combo. Love em all.
There's something to be said for the compactness of the Jetboil, but I still LOVE my Coleman white gas stove. It travels everywhere with me when I'm on the trail.
I was a stalwart Coleman fan until my wife blessed me with the Genesis System for fathers day last year. The full kit is the way to go, boiling water for pasta is a dream, frying eggs/steak and the cleanup afterwards is a no brainer. Then it ALL tucks away into a neat package. At first I balked at the price but after using it I am a Genesis Fan.
I was watching the whole video just to see the nostalgic Coleman 454 in action. I do snow camping often in high altitude low temperatures where the propane tanks begin to choke and flame out. I also hate to see discarded used tanks littering all over. If I need fuel I get some from my rig and get going. They do take some maintenance but its like going over your rig and making sure it wont leave you stranded. Happy trails TrailRecon I love your work.
You are absolutely correct! Propane has a boiling point of around -40, which means the colder it is outside, the less pressure the canister has, which in turn means less flame and less heat. I have been in arctic situations where the temps are below -40 and propane simply does not boil at that temp, and propane BBQ's and stoves and lanterns just don't work at all, no gas comes out of the burners, it stays liquid. You don't have that problem with white gas because you manually introduce an artificial atmosphere to the fuel canister, and it could be -76 and it would still work (Although you'd probably freeze before having a chance to try, lol!)
Whoa, wait a second here!!!!! Did I miss something????? What is that beautiful green machine behind you? I know about the blue Chief, did I miss a video of this green one? Love the color. I almost got one like that recently but there was just too much rust in the fenders and floors. Keep the great videos coming, thanks TONS!!!
That Jetboil is the best stove I have ever used! I LOVE mine and highly recommend it! I have the 2 burner stove and the satellite burner with a coffee press. The best thing about it is that it takes 4 complete turns to go from off to high. LOTS of heat control! Awesome system!
Another great video, as a long time Vintage Coleman collector and president of the International Coleman collectors club I almost shed a tear watching you trying to light the unfired vintage stove.... Lol they don't make unfired stoves like that anymore, but I don't blame you for wanting to use it. For the pump cup it is leather and will work just fine by soaking it in Neets foot oil and is way better than the neoprene cups. You may also need to change out the fuel cap seal, its probably no good anymore due to its age. You can get most of the parts you need from Old Coleman Parts. There are videos on You Tube how to change the seal so you can keep the original cap.
I have an Old Coleman stove that my Mother-in-law used when she was Camping from the 1960's to the late 1990's. she gave it to my wife who used it every time she went camping. we love the sound it makes and the old old lantern we have as well (we actually had a newer model but it didn't make the hissing sound that is so much a part of camping, so we found an old one). My wife and I have enjoyed watching your videos through the years, we bought a Ram truck almost 2 years ago (after driving a Jeep for over 10 years and trail riding with The Jeep Junkies up here in Alberta), so when you switched to a truck i was curious to see the places you would be going to. i look forward to more of your product reviews and your travels. If you are ever up in Alberta Canada, we be happy to take you up the mountains here and in British Columbia.
Very interesting comparison and testing. Thanks. I've found over the years that propane is NOT for me. I am so sick of those little bottles running out and the inevitable hunt for them only to find them at astronomical prices. I'll stick with naphtha/unleaded. And I also find that far too many people focus solely on how hot a stove can get as if they only know how to cook on high. When I cook at home I use the whole heat range from low to high so why would I not do the same out in the woods? I find how evenly the heat is spread and how consistent it is to be far more important than if it can smelt lead in under 30 seconds. Another test which I never see done is how long a full tank of fuel will last on high heat. Knowing how much fuel I will likely use is a very convenient thing so that I neither run out nor take more than is needed.
Having refurbished two old Coleman stove like the one you have, there is usually two things that go bad. One is the leather seal on the pump dries out. Soak it in oil for a few days and try it. The other problem is the rubber gasket on the fueling cap gets little cracks and leaks air causing a loss in pressure. Fix both of those problems and you should be good to go.
The good news is that last I checked for my old model 460's you could still get parts from Colman. Lots to be said for those old white gas stoves but they do require more attention than the newer propane ones and you can get more fire than you wanted if you are not mindful of the handling of liquid fuel.
The 425 just needs a few drops of motor oil on the cork and they come right back to life. Also you need the take your thumb off the hole when on the pull stroke. I think you will find in very high altitudes the propane doesnt work as well as the 425 will. I also like that the 425 is a dual fuel stove. They will also run on plain gasoline.
My most fond memories growing up was camping in the 70’s and we had a common stove exactly like you have there! I remember pumping that thing up getting ready so my mom could make coffee, eggs, and bacon on it.
The tabs on the tank of the old Coleman stove should have the date numbers stamped on them. I have a 3 burner from 1970. Also a little machine oil on the leather plunger will revive that old leather right up.
@@davidregan9872 a leather pump cup from the mid 60's that has never had oil on will disintegrate replace the cup and check the the fill cap and see if the rubber is intact you can make your own rubber just use 3 to 4 layers of inner tube that you glued tgether
I had a two burner suitcase stove. The heat it produced on high was incredible. I used it plenty for cooking, but it also was hot enough to easily melt lead alloy for bullet casting.
Being a teenager in the 70s my memories of this vintage stove was exactly what you experienced. I was hoping yours would perform better and was considering buying one like it. I have the 80s version that uses propane and it's much more reliable.
For me the Coleman 425 B or later models is my choice for camping, hunting and fishing trips the nostalgia factor just does it for me. When I was a kid my dad took us kids camping and many outdoor adventures. Many meals were cooked on this old stove so it has great memories for me. I still have this old stove which was past down to me and it still works great to this day.
I have had the coleman for about 12 years and it has been great. The one thing that I have always wanted was a good wind screen as the wind can really reduce efficiency. This stove is good for boiling water but it is actually fantastic when it comes to things that need variable temperature.
14:00 Looks to me like not only is the JetBoil burner larger, but the grille is closer to the flame also. If the Coleman was lower, it would be hotter. Looks like ~1/2" difference.
@@xenaguy01 Camping cookware is really thin to save weight. Therefore doesn't distribute heat well. So having a stove burner further away may not heat as fast, but will distribute the heat more evenly meaning less hot spots that will burn your food. What is mm ok about that?
I bought an old Coleman 3 burner stove from a garage sale about 16 years ago. I couldn’t pass it up. It was before everyone used EBay as their price guide to sell used stuff so I got it for a very reasonable price. I love that stove. It even came with a propane adapter and a stand. I’m cleaning it now while I watch ur vid. Good times :)
As an “old school” camper, the Coleman white gas stove was the standard for family camping. I’m not a hiker, so never had to worry about weight or size. It’s a nostalgia thing! 😉 If I had to buy a new camp stove, I would still give the old Coleman a try, but in dual fuel. Thanks for the comparison. It was very interesting to watch! 👍🏼
I have a newer model of one of those (dual fuel, gray tank) and it's been fine. The materials are a bit flimsier than the models made even in the 1990s, but it gets the job done.
I need to purchase a stove, I was considering the white fuel but keep going back and forth😂 not sure which will be my first purchase but I probably will buy two in the long term
Great video, enjoyed comparison of Jet Boil and Coleman. I am an old school camper with who has tried about every stove while backpacking, car camping, popups and RVs. Like you,I picked up a vintage 425g Coleman that was unused. I used it daily this summer on a Colorado camping trip. The hissing sound of the gas Coleman proved to be very nostalgic. Decades of great memories came flooding back. Keep up the outstanding work!
I was 5 in '64 when my dad bought a brand spankin' new Wagoneer. We usually camped at Tuolumne Meadows just outside Yosemite, or Death Valley. I still have the stove we used, just like your green one. That white gas is great if you don't mind huffin' 'n puffin to build up pressure. HOWEVER... somewhere out there in internet land, you ought to be able to find an adapter made just for those stoves to accommodate the propane cans you use. I bought mine nearly 30 years ago and don't remember if it was made by Coleman. But I know they're out there. I've got a couple of those lamps too. Maybe that white gas still needs to be used, but that background "white noise" of the whoosh sound coming from them is all part of the experience... and memories! My Jeep is a '59 Wagon btw. Love your channel!
Hey Brad, I have been waiting for this comparison! Thank you so much. I need to desperately downsize gear so the Jet Boil will likely fit the bill. Knowing both brands well, everyone knows you get what you pay for. I would never compare my Coleman cooler to my Pelican cooler. Price is drastically different and so is the life of the ice. Tool for every job. Hope to see you in Flagstaff!
I have the coleman stove (with the red tank). My Dad bought it when I was a little shaver. Cooked a lot of meals in that over the years. Yes, they still make seals for them. MY other favorite is a stainless steel unit that uses denatured alcohol. I originally bought it for the boat (in 86). Still use it today as an outdoor/tailgate cooker. Very informative video!
Been using my Coleman stove for years and it’s been great! I don’t remember the price, but I know it was under $100. I just recently purchased a single burner backpack stove for my solo trips and I find that’s a great balance.
My wife and I took our Coleman pump stove around the USA with two kids under 6 in the 1990's. It cooked all our food on the way and never let us down. Every time I fire it up the smell just brings back so many happy memories. And yep, sometimes I light it for that reason alone.
That was VERY helpful. I'm with you. Fold and go. And I have an FJ cruiser. Even less room than a jeep. I like the jet better but not 180 dollars better. Love the product reviews. Save us from making costly mis buys. So thanks Brad. Non bias product reviews are king.
I have been using a 70 year old Colman white gas stove for 30 years. Would have loved to see how it stacked up against any of the propane stoves. It has always been a great camp stove, and seems to work better in colder weather than my buddy's propane version. One nice thing about your propane stoves though, is ability to put a larger frying pan on them. The only problem is the windscreen on my old "suitcase" stove is that it limits the size of skillet you can use.
I have an old Coleman suit case that dates back to the 1930’s. The burner is cast iron and Coleman is embossed in the cast iron. Works like a champ, the end of the fuel tank is shaped like a funnel, no funnel required o fuel it. As far as the air pump issue. I went on eBay and found the original leather cups for the end of the pump rods and changed out all the cracked rubber cups to the old school leather cups. Put some light oil in the oil hole on the pump cap and seal perfectly. The leather cups are the only way to go with the old school lanterns and stoves. Thanks for the videos Chief, I really enjoy them.
I have had 2 old Coleman stoves - 1 was yard sale find, the other one was my Dad's he used with my older brothers Boy Scout troops. I had a cheap Northwest Territory KMART stove after those but my current stove is a Camp Chef Everest. I love it.
Great timing for this vlog. Good morning, Brad! I just enjoyed a great cup of coffee using my two-burner Coleman in the garage. In my van I use a Coleman single burner with a Gas One as a backup. On my next adventures I want to upgrade to the Jetboil...after observing the performance on your boiling test. The more compact size is a factor as well. In my survival backpack is a BSR stove in case my vehicle breaks down. I really enjoy watching your vlogs even though I'm a van lifer. I love to explore as well, just doing it differently.
Talking about a flexible hose, my dad's old Coleman propane stove (similar to your vintage one there) has a flexible hose on it. It's decent and has lasted probably upwards of 35 years. They should use those again!
I think it has something to do with code. For example, you can only run a flex hose to a gas dryer, but not a hot water tank or furnace. I believe it is a similar story with stoves, it needs to be rigid now. But what you modify after you buy it is up to you, heheh. ;)
I recently rebuilt my family’s stove and it works great. I am sure you will be able to find the correct parts. The constant pumping at first light up is all part of the charm. Good luck and i look forward to seeing it light.
Hey Brad. I bought a Stansport 30” flexible hose. This replaces the fixed copper tube and allows me to position the propane in different positions. But remember to always have it upright as it’s the gas on top of the liquid fuel that needs to pass through the regulator. As an aside, I think the Genesis family are the only jetboil stoves that use propane. All the others use butane-based fuels (like isobutane).
I appreciate your honest and practical review. So many reviews fail to recognize that when there is a 3 to 1 price difference, you expect more than a little nicer.
Wish I hadn’t given my dads old Coleman stove away. I look forward to seeing yours being used, and time test against modern stoves would be interesting.
I'm 63 and have eaten off of coleman stoves since I was a little kid. I still use a Coleman three burner that is probably about 40 years old. Many great meals for the family. I hope you have gotten it running because they really are great.
The height difference between grate and burner is the “problem”. Just came back from a trip and a friend had the Coleman and the distance from grate to burner was a killer with a breeze blowing. Made the unit essentially unusable. Five minutes and still couldn’t get enough heat on the pan to cook eggs!
For the Coleman and Jetboil propane stoves you can get an extension hose adapter that connects the propane bottle to the stoves then the propane bottle is out of the way. I've used one on my stoves for years.
I've been using the traditional Coleman 1, 2 and 3 burner White Gas / Naptha Gas (also Reg gas) stoves for 50+ years. I prefer them because in my experience they burn hotter then propane stoves, and they burn in extreme cold temps (I live in Canada), when propane stops flowing (yes this is a thing)! Plus you can use a folding Coleman Box Oven on a Coleman white gas stove which means you can bake anything in the field - pizza, pies, bread, etc.! With practice Coleman Ovens work great. To lubricate the leather "pump cup" on old Coleman stoves, use Neatsfoot Oil, which you can buy many places on line. Coleman used to sell this in small tubes labelled as "Coleman Oil". It's an all natural oil, so is excellent to restore your leather pump cup.
When I was growing up back in the 60's & 70's, many of the older Green Machines had schrader bike tire valve stems installed to replace the charging pumps mechanism. I'd seen folks using the small bicycle pumps to pump them up and also, compressed air tanks…they cranked out some serious BTUs…Might even give the JetBoils a run for their money… Thanks HMCM! Ol' Scooter (HMCS) in East Texas
I remember my father taking us camping and he used the same Coleman white gas stove. Great memories. That was over 50 years ago. Great reviews of the folding stoves.
Don’t forget to check the gasket on the fuel filler cap. The older they are, the more likely they are to harden with age. Once that happens the tank won’t seal sufficiently to accept the pressure you’re pumping into the tank.
I have the Coleman 425E stove. No folding legs, 4 bumps on the bottom. Also, the grate is hinged. About 45 years old. Not only cooked 100's of meals, I use it to melt lead for casting bullets for my muzzleloaders. Perfect design. I also have 2 single mantle lanterns.
My dad had a Coleman stove and lantern for over 50 years, finally sold it in a garage sale. Never failed us but we kept it clean like knew and took care of. The gaskets need to be oiled to keep them soft and working. Pumping sucked though lol.
I have one of the old Colman stoves like yours. It was my grandpa's. When my gasket on the pump failed after being in storage for nearly 20 years I just soaked it in cooking oil overnight and it has been working just fine ever since for the last 5 years.
If I camped as much as Brad I’d probably go with that Jetboil, I like how it packs away in the pots. For me, I’ll keep using my old Coleman briefcase despite it being more work to use.
actually its pretty slick and I really like that stove , Gotta be honest all 3 impress me I have a 425 from 1976 just used it yesterday in Big Sur its well used bought it new! I reall wanted to see the 425 fire up
I picked up an old 425 F for $20 bucks at a yard sale a few years back. I use it for every car camping trip (overlanding as people call it now) I love it.
I have a Fold n Go for a couple years and maybe 60 days in the field on two long road trips from Ontario to Nevada plus numerous weekend camps. The stove is still working very well.
You need to lubricate the plunger with light oil ( 3n1 or cooking oil) it works like an old tire pump you have to keep the plunger lubricated. I am in my 70 and have cooked lots of meals on the Colman white gas stoves. BUT today I use a one burner induction cooktop (Electric) cleaner, cheaper and safer than gas ( propane or white gas)
Exactly ! Like an old tire pump or even a Daisy B.B. gun the oil hole is in the end cap of the Coleman stove and lamps. I am Coleman only they work in extremely cold weather!
My old Coleman is older them me. It works great. It has gone on every hunt with my dad since I was 6. Now I have it in the garage and take it on camping trips. Yea it is bulky but it has never failed me and no tanks to replace or refill. 👍👍👍
A fond memory for me is going with my father to the local Hardwar Store (you know the old General Store that had everything) and finding or "fancying" a new gasket for the Coleman. I am 58 yo now so this was quite a few years/decades ago.
Love seeing that old Coleman. Think we still have ours from when I was growing up. Those things are great when a storm comes along and knocks out power. When they are working right they last longer than the new fuel options. The folding camp stoves it looks too me like the Coleman's issue might be the distance between the flame and the coffee pot. Thanks for the video Brad.
Great comparison video! I have a vintage Coleman stove too. Finally retired it couple years ago for the fold n go. I also just added a home made skottle that I’ve been trying out.
I have the coleman 3 burner, white fuel stove. My father bought it back in the early 80's. It still works to this day and is almost as old as I am. We camp almost every other weekend. Finding white fuel for it is getting harder but you can find it if you know where to look. We get a lot of looks from other people camping wanting to know what it is. Coleman knew how to make them back then.
Great video Brad, I really enjoy the retro or vintage camping. I think you will really enjoy the Coleman after some minor maintenance. For the last several years I have gone that direction to a more low-tech approach. But then I grew up in the 60's so it's maybe more nostalgic as I grew up using the old gear.
Great review! I was just hoping you could address this. One of my biggest complaints when it comes to "trailer" stoves is that they say they are either 2 burner or 3 burner stoves; but in reality, I can only place 1 pan on those at a time...I was wonder if either of the fold and go's can be simultaneously used on real size pots and pans?
Found a Coleman lantern in the woods when I was camping, looked like it had been there for a while. Took it back to camp and pulled the weeds out of it and wipe it off just a bit. Mantels were still good, had fuel in it, so I pumped it up and light it. Worked great. That was 35 years ago and I still have it and the one I brought with me that day.
I have 3 of those old things bought cheap as well... uses both white gas and regular fuel. Does really well as well. The older stove maintained will outpace anything made new.
I love the old Coleman stoves and lanterns. I also used to buy all the good examples I’d Come across at thrift stores, but I got over that and sold them. They’re really only practical when cooking for many. I still have a couple white gas lanterns. Those I still use regularly. Just love the hiss and the light they put off. I love lighting them, hanging them on a tree…that’s camping.
i have a lot of coleman stoves including a 413C, and it's a blowtorch. It's as fast as my buddy's jetboil. Oh, also they changed the tank color to red in 1958, so yours is pre that. Ok I just finished. Did you try taking off the gas cap to see if the tank has pressure or not, after pumping? If it's not pressurizing, use Neatsfoot oil on the leather. That leather is fine i'm sure. Just needs some oil. If that doesn't solve it, the gasket in the fuel cap is bad. That's a problem on every old coleman gas cap. You can find a replacement on oldcolemanparts for a buck. One way to test is to swap the fuel cap off your 220 lantern there, it is the same size fuel cap. If the lantern is holding pressure, it should help you test. If none of that works, then the check valve in the pump is gummed up and needs to be cleaned/replaced. They're fun to fettle and it's rewarding!
I still use my vintage Coleman 413H bought in 1978 and it still works great. Main burner rated 14k btu and aux burner 11k btu. I have only had to replace the pump one time. I still have the receipt paid $46.95 and is good enough for me. It is somewhat big but I always manage to fit it in.
Bought a near new Coleman 35 yrs ago for $10 and have never regretted it since then I inherited my dads old Coleman that's at least 65 yrs old and still works great, granted I wouldn't want to backpack it but I'm 71 and that ship has sailed. Still great stoves.
@@jakecarruthers6513 yes, but when camping, just how much do you need to boil? I won’t be cooking for a restaurant. Plus I’m out there to relax anyways so three mins is nothing. And yet those three mins saves me 2/3 the money? I’ll take the Coleman and relax and enjoy sitting for a few extra mins while camping alone or with my woman.
That's cool. Time is money. Time is memories. The point is, it's statistically significant. Likely burns less gas too. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it adds up. While you and your woman are watching water boil, my water will be done, and I won't have missed the sunrise, sunset, watching a wild animal walk by, etc. Peace.
I received the red Coleman from my brother probably over 10 years ago as a birthday gift. It’s still running strong. The clasp still works and locks. I put it in a North Face stuff sack and put it in my DryBox for 4 day canoe trips. It’s cooked for over 15 people at a time. Best part is the bottom does not get hot so you can put it on a cooler or plastic table so it’s great for tailgating as well. Zero complaints. Probably the best $75 you can spend. It’s great for cooking eggs without burning them too. Sometimes super hot isn’t really the best.
Love your shirt. I lived there for 32 years. I have a Coleman 424 2-burner stove. It’s what we always take camping. I also have the Coleman 533, but I just use that at home and don’t really take it out.
Still using my 1972 Coleman stove for 40 years. But I picked up the kit to use propane. Love it it one of my prize possession now along with the lantern.
I picked up the full genesis system for 275 Brad if you catch it on a sale…love it, yeah it’s a little more but very well built, picked up a cheap flexible adapter hose to go to it from my 5lb propane and good to go! Love the videos Brad, always look forward to, cheers!
We had one of the old green , pump up stoves back in the 1960's used it for four years while living and travelling in Canada and the USA . Used for 6 months every day when we drove all around North America . A great stove , simple to operate .
I have all manner of small, compact, and light gear that I have for a variety of good reasons. That old Coleman I just can't part with. I grew up with Dad and Grandpa cooking on it for us, and one day it became mine. Used right and properly maintained, it never fails. Nostalgia to be sure, but with a healthy dose of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
My dad was born in the 40s and recently gifted me one of those old green Coleman’s , I love it it has a regular propane adapter so no need for the white gas
Great video pal! I love the passion for the antique. We learned how to use those, and the lanterns in army cadets. 38 year old me is grateful for the 12 year old me nostalgia!
I still use my old vintage style Colman. I have two of them. One I converted to propane, the other is original " dual fuel". Both work great and have cooked many meals for us.
I have had a Coleman 502 single burner stove since I was a young man. about 50 years. it still works fine I changed the generator once and cleaned the tank a couple years ago.
I just bought a 1980s Coleman stove at a thrift store. Looks like it was used maybe once if at all. I run it on propane. I spent $8 on the stove and $20 for the propane adapter. Works awesome! Love your vids btw!
Good video. I have 2 old Coleman fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner that I’ve used for close to probably 50 yrs. I like the 3 burner because I can put the griddle on it and cook a big meal for all. The pump gasket on mine is leather. And yes, a couple drops of oil will soften the pressure seal right up!
My old Coleman stove kept us caffeinated on the campsite and in warm food during hurricanes for thirty years before I donated it to the Boy Scouts. I truly miss that stove and, despite the occasional need to be pressurized, I prefer white gas to propane to store and use at the campsite.
Hey Brad...regarding the classic Coleman stove. This is my Boy Scout cmping days using that style Coleman stove and suggest soaking the leather valve cup seal in 10w oil for a couple of days...It'll swell up and provide a better seal in the cylinder. Also as you pump up pressure if the fuel tank...place your thumb on the vent hole on the down stroke, let up your thumb to allow air to be sucked into the cylinder on the up stroke, to pressurize the fuel tank. Nice find on the classic Coleman and great comparison of the Jet Boil Genesis and Coleman Fold n Go stoves.
I had the Coleman Fold and Go when it first came out (at least I think it was when they first came out) and I bought it at the Coleman Store in Pigeon Forge, TN. I liked the compact nature of it, and even had the carrying case to go with it. But I didn't have any kind of windscreen, and that was an issue for me when I was tent camping. I ended up selling it at a yard sale a few years ago, because my dad gave me his old style Coleman stove (still propane) that had the flip up lid/windscreen. The classic just worked better for me. Anyway, enjoyed the video, have a great day!
We have a Coleman stove from the 60s and it still works. It's dual fuel, white fuel or unleaded gasoline. We found the two burner in the trees in a wash. Cleaned it up and it worked even with the old fuel in it. Replace the leather washer in the three burner and it's been running every day for a week on a gallon of fuel/ unleaded gasoline. Sometimes old school is best.
My dad and I always get all kinds of grief for it, but we both love the old school white gas Coleman stoves and lanterns. Something about them, the smell, the way you have to pump them manually. They have such a strong “yeah, I’m camping” vibe compared to modern plastic/propane stuff. The stuff is over 50 years old and still works great. They can sit for 10 years and then fire right up again, the gas has never gone bad. They’re just classic cool. 👍👍
Yup. Practically, LED lanterns beat the gas ones hands down. There is a very specific satisfaction from lighting the mantles and hearing that roar.
I inherited a Coleman 426 three burner white gas stove that I have used for years now, recently I acquired the lanterns as well. There is something about the sound of white gas appliances that has that camping feel.
I agree 100% mate!
@@EclecticBuddha Except of course, in the winter, where the added heat from the gas lantern can be quite desirable. The other question is whether in 50 years, those LED lanterns will still be working - I've got naptha ones older than that still run like a charm.
Yeah I have the old mantle pump lantern too . One thing I’ll share , during the early 1950’s my father would melt Plumber lead on a pump up liquid gas blow torch .Once when he drew back the plunger to pump , gas had leaked behind the piston and shot gas from the vent hole and into his face which ignited. Fortunately he smothered it out with his shirt .
The problem with the old Coleman stoves is that once you buy one for around $10 dollars you have to buy EVERY one you find in the same price range. I used to go to garage sales every weekend and thrift stores so over the years I have accumulated so many that i just feel guilty if i see another one and don't buy it. Its almost like an illness. But if they're made to handle camping I feel like they'll basically last forever. The comments are a true testament to how great they are
Ooooff, I just started this cycle. Got my first one 5 days ago for $20, have since bought 2 more stoves, 6 lanterns, and am going tomorrow to see a lady with 3 more lanterns and 2 stoves. FB Marketplace has been feeding the addiction all week. All told I've only spent $120. Now I'm gonna start the journey of restoration...
I love Coleman white gas stoves and lanterns. Reminds me of my scouting days. Have developed a bit of a collection.
I have more than 30 Coleman stoves. Only occasionally use one. Yes, it's kinda a sickness 😮😊
I really like white gas over noisy propane. I have a suitcase stove from ‘63 I restored. Big and can take any pan. Still looking for a three burner.
I run a 3 burner Coleman suitcase stove when we are camping, the smell of white gas stoves burning brings brings back so many memories of camping with my family as a kid
I’ve had many stoves over the years. I’m full time and really put them through the paces. Most have broke or malfunctioned in short order. Others where just not suitable for my use or price was nuts. Last year I came across a Coleman 425E in new condition and bought it for $15.00 usd. I replaced the rubber pump gasket with the leather one. 2 for $9.00. I purchased the propane adapter $21.00. So I can use gasoline or propane. I also mounted piezoelectric starters for each burner. $6.00. $51.00 total and It all fits inside the steel case.
It’s the best hard use multi-fuel stove I’ve ever had. Easy parts replacement because it is a classic collectors stove. Parts are all USA or Canada.
Hands down.. Bang for the buck.. The old Coleman’s are the way to go….
Agree! I have 2 Coleman 425Es (one I rehabbed) and they are great especially in cold weather camping. Don't have to worry about your propane freezing up and a lot of BTU power. :)
Could you give me a link what kind of propane adapter, so it can use gasoline? Thanks a lot 👍
It’s gone up in price like everything. You can not convert a propane Coleman stove to white gasoline. The 425E is about a 50 year old white gasoline stove.
I have a bunch of the 425 stoves for prepping, and bought the Dual Fuel model for prospecting in Alaska (gasoline and whitegas). I also have propane adapters for every stove. While propane is nice, 1 gallon of white gas equals 4 propane cylinders. My prepping stoves range from next to new to good condition, and were had in thrift stores for $2 - 15. For prospecting, I go with a brand new stove for each trip because, when I'm 30-50 miles out in the bush, it's no time for breakdowns of used equipment. Never had a trip yet where the old Coleman stove ever let me down! But even then, I carry spare parts. 2 is 1, and 1 is none! And the Coleman fuel lasts forever in those cans. Had a can that was opened and half full sit for 40 years. Still worked as good as new fuel!
@@impulsestar6431 you can get an adapter to use propane instead of white gas for the gas burning stoves.
I've eaten a lot of great meals of a Coleman camp stove. Brings back a lot of great memories.
Love the vintage stuff! Let's hope I can start preparing a few camp meals on it soon.
Those Coleman stove are nice. But, I like the other style. Because putting a larger pan on the briefcase style is harder then the circular style open ones.
I wonder if there is a propane savings with the jet ?
Speed factor in the type of camping that you do doesn’t really matter.
Compact is the main factor, durability quality, and the durability and quality of the pans and handles is IMO what needs to be reviewed with some cooking “mileages”
But I really wonder if there is any significant propane savings?
Do you think the pot n pan are high quality?
Easy to clean? Handles?
The folding mechanism of the stove?
Do you think it would last for 10+ yrs as compared to the Coleman.?
If my Coleman was to brake (as it almost did in a recent trip) it price was well worth it considering the many years of use I have gotten out of it.
Too bad you couldn’t get the vintage stove to work. But looking forward to seeing your vintage items collection.
You just might want to test them out that they are working as soon as you receive them in the mail before you attempt a video..
Although it was kind of cool to see you go through the trial.
You showed a black Coleman; I wonder how it compares the boiling process with the red Coleman.
I have 8 of these old Coleman stoves from the early fifties to late eighties and 2 single burner and a back pack stove, I love these stoves and all work great.
I've got one from I think the 70s.
Great stove, I use it for more than camping. Company party's and picnics.
@@stephenm8100 I did not realize just how old these are .. I have one that my father in law gave me and I have used extensively .. now need to look up just how old it is.
@@shawnk8802 they have been around for some time. My grandma has some 8mm Home movies of campouts. My Grandparents had one made right after the war.
Started my collection with the y2k scare, I own 4 white gas stoves and a chrome single mantle kerosene lantern ( Coleman-1950’s) love generator style heating and lighting!
I have a one burner (with the cover thingy to be a heater) and still have the 3 burner. My 2 burner was stolen 😣
They my be older but made more durable & easy to get replacement parts. I also picked up the stove/oven combo. Love em all.
There's something to be said for the compactness of the Jetboil, but I still LOVE my Coleman white gas stove. It travels everywhere with me when I'm on the trail.
I was a stalwart Coleman fan until my wife blessed me with the Genesis System for fathers day last year. The full kit is the way to go, boiling water for pasta is a dream, frying eggs/steak and the cleanup afterwards is a no brainer. Then it ALL tucks away into a neat package. At first I balked at the price but after using it I am a Genesis Fan.
I was watching the whole video just to see the nostalgic Coleman 454 in action. I do snow camping often in high altitude low temperatures where the propane tanks begin to choke and flame out. I also hate to see discarded used tanks littering all over. If I need fuel I get some from my rig and get going. They do take some maintenance but its like going over your rig and making sure it wont leave you stranded. Happy trails TrailRecon I love your work.
You are absolutely correct! Propane has a boiling point of around -40, which means the colder it is outside, the less pressure the canister has, which in turn means less flame and less heat. I have been in arctic situations where the temps are below -40 and propane simply does not boil at that temp, and propane BBQ's and stoves and lanterns just don't work at all, no gas comes out of the burners, it stays liquid. You don't have that problem with white gas because you manually introduce an artificial atmosphere to the fuel canister, and it could be -76 and it would still work (Although you'd probably freeze before having a chance to try, lol!)
Whoa, wait a second here!!!!! Did I miss something????? What is that beautiful green machine behind you? I know about the blue Chief, did I miss a video of this green one? Love the color. I almost got one like that recently but there was just too much rust in the fenders and floors. Keep the great videos coming, thanks TONS!!!
That Jetboil is the best stove I have ever used! I LOVE mine and highly recommend it! I have the 2 burner stove and the satellite burner with a coffee press. The best thing about it is that it takes 4 complete turns to go from off to high. LOTS of heat control! Awesome system!
Another great video, as a long time Vintage Coleman collector and president of the International Coleman collectors club I almost shed a tear watching you trying to light the unfired vintage stove.... Lol they don't make unfired stoves like that anymore, but I don't blame you for wanting to use it. For the pump cup it is leather and will work just fine by soaking it in Neets foot oil and is way better than the neoprene cups. You may also need to change out the fuel cap seal, its probably no good anymore due to its age. You can get most of the parts you need from Old Coleman Parts. There are videos on You Tube how to change the seal so you can keep the original cap.
Thank you so much Mel, I'm doing to soak the cup and pick up a new seal shortly. Appreciate the advice!
@@TrailRecon you're very welcome, i do hope to see you light it and it compliments your wagoneer very well.
I have an Old Coleman stove that my Mother-in-law used when she was Camping from the 1960's to the late 1990's. she gave it to my wife who used it every time she went camping. we love the sound it makes and the old old lantern we have as well (we actually had a newer model but it didn't make the hissing sound that is so much a part of camping, so we found an old one). My wife and I have enjoyed watching your videos through the years, we bought a Ram truck almost 2 years ago (after driving a Jeep for over 10 years and trail riding with The Jeep Junkies up here in Alberta), so when you switched to a truck i was curious to see the places you would be going to. i look forward to more of your product reviews and your travels. If you are ever up in Alberta Canada, we be happy to take you up the mountains here and in British Columbia.
Very interesting comparison and testing. Thanks.
I've found over the years that propane is NOT for me. I am so sick of those little bottles running out and the inevitable hunt for them only to find them at astronomical prices. I'll stick with naphtha/unleaded. And I also find that far too many people focus solely on how hot a stove can get as if they only know how to cook on high. When I cook at home I use the whole heat range from low to high so why would I not do the same out in the woods? I find how evenly the heat is spread and how consistent it is to be far more important than if it can smelt lead in under 30 seconds. Another test which I never see done is how long a full tank of fuel will last on high heat. Knowing how much fuel I will likely use is a very convenient thing so that I neither run out nor take more than is needed.
There are adapters to refill the 1lb bottles from a 20lb bottle.
@@EclecticBuddha at this point, why not just use a hose to hook the 20 up if you're taking it with you to refill the 1# on site?
Having refurbished two old Coleman stove like the one you have, there is usually two things that go bad. One is the leather seal on the pump dries out. Soak it in oil for a few days and try it. The other problem is the rubber gasket on the fueling cap gets little cracks and leaks air causing a loss in pressure. Fix both of those problems and you should be good to go.
The good news is that last I checked for my old model 460's you could still get parts from Colman. Lots to be said for those old white gas stoves but they do require more attention than the newer propane ones and you can get more fire than you wanted if you are not mindful of the handling of liquid fuel.
The 425 just needs a few drops of motor oil on the cork and they come right back to life. Also you need the take your thumb off the hole when on the pull stroke. I think you will find in very high altitudes the propane doesnt work as well as the 425 will. I also like that the 425 is a dual fuel stove. They will also run on plain gasoline.
425 is not dual fuel, that would be I think 424
@@jeffreyplumber1975 its dual fuel
Exactly. Oil the leather pump gasket. It looks like a refurbished stove as well. The original had a red painted tank not copper.
@@charlespolk5221 I think the 425B had that tank and the 425C was the first with a red tank. But I could be wrong.
@@AnglinTexas You may be right. My scout troop had a couple of 425's, I don't know if they were the B or C pattern, both of them had the red tank.
My most fond memories growing up was camping in the 70’s and we had a common stove exactly like you have there! I remember pumping that thing up getting ready so my mom could make coffee, eggs, and bacon on it.
The tabs on the tank of the old Coleman stove should have the date numbers stamped on them. I have a 3 burner from 1970. Also a little machine oil on the leather plunger will revive that old leather right up.
They didn't do that forever, with a gold fount it very well could be undated.
The old leather plungers work great. So easy to get them going again and seem to last forever.
I too have an old 3-burner. However, I got the propane conversion. It still works like a champ!
Yep! I had an old lantern that didn't work. I put a little oil on it, and it worked great!
@@davidregan9872 a leather pump cup from the mid 60's that has never had oil on will disintegrate replace the cup and check the the fill cap and see if the rubber is intact you can make your own rubber just use 3 to 4 layers of inner tube that you glued tgether
I had a two burner suitcase stove. The heat it produced on high was incredible.
I used it plenty for cooking, but it also was hot enough to easily melt lead alloy for bullet casting.
Being a teenager in the 70s my memories of this vintage stove was exactly what you experienced. I was hoping yours would perform better and was considering buying one like it. I have the 80s version that uses propane and it's much more reliable.
For me the Coleman 425 B or later models is my choice for camping, hunting and fishing trips the nostalgia factor just does it for me. When I was a kid my dad took us kids camping and many outdoor adventures. Many meals were cooked on this old stove so it has great memories for me. I still have this old stove which was past down to me and it still works great to this day.
I have had the coleman for about 12 years and it has been great. The one thing that I have always wanted was a good wind screen as the wind can really reduce efficiency. This stove is good for boiling water but it is actually fantastic when it comes to things that need variable temperature.
I love the old coleman stove. Brings back memories of my youth, camping with the family
14:00 Looks to me like not only is the JetBoil burner larger, but the grille is closer to the flame also. If the Coleman was lower, it would be hotter. Looks like ~1/2" difference.
Yep. I think the Jet Boil is about 1 inch closer to the flame. I've had the Colman for about 10 years and find it very reliable.
That's what I noticed too
Which means it is less likely to burn food to the pan as the heat can spread out better.
@@court2379
Ummm . . . Oh-oh-kay?
@@xenaguy01 Camping cookware is really thin to save weight. Therefore doesn't distribute heat well. So having a stove burner further away may not heat as fast, but will distribute the heat more evenly meaning less hot spots that will burn your food.
What is mm ok about that?
I bought an old Coleman 3 burner stove from a garage sale about 16 years ago. I couldn’t pass it up. It was before everyone used EBay as their price guide to sell used stuff so I got it for a very reasonable price. I love that stove. It even came with a propane adapter and a stand. I’m cleaning it now while I watch ur vid. Good times :)
As an “old school” camper, the Coleman white gas stove was the standard for family camping. I’m not a hiker, so never had to worry about weight or size. It’s a nostalgia thing! 😉 If I had to buy a new camp stove, I would still give the old Coleman a try, but in dual fuel. Thanks for the comparison. It was very interesting to watch! 👍🏼
I have a newer model of one of those (dual fuel, gray tank) and it's been fine. The materials are a bit flimsier than the models made even in the 1990s, but it gets the job done.
I need to purchase a stove, I was considering the white fuel but keep going back and forth😂 not sure which will be my first purchase but I probably will buy two in the long term
Great video, enjoyed comparison of Jet Boil and Coleman. I am an old school camper with who has tried about every stove while backpacking, car camping, popups and RVs. Like you,I picked up a vintage 425g Coleman that was unused. I used it daily this summer on a Colorado camping trip. The hissing sound of the gas Coleman proved to be very nostalgic. Decades of great memories came flooding back. Keep up the outstanding work!
I use a vintage Coleman, but bought a propane converter so I dont have to mess with camp stove fuel. Its a great stove
I did the same I love it I bought the stove for $10 the adapter $14 and mine is a 3 burner
I was 5 in '64 when my dad bought a brand spankin' new Wagoneer. We usually camped at Tuolumne Meadows just outside Yosemite, or Death Valley. I still have the stove we used, just like your green one. That white gas is great if you don't mind huffin' 'n puffin to build up pressure. HOWEVER... somewhere out there in internet land, you ought to be able to find an adapter made just for those stoves to accommodate the propane cans you use. I bought mine nearly 30 years ago and don't remember if it was made by Coleman. But I know they're out there. I've got a couple of those lamps too. Maybe that white gas still needs to be used, but that background "white noise" of the whoosh sound coming from them is all part of the experience... and memories! My Jeep is a '59 Wagon btw. Love your channel!
Hey Brad,
I have been waiting for this comparison! Thank you so much.
I need to desperately downsize gear so the Jet Boil will likely fit the bill.
Knowing both brands well, everyone knows you get what you pay for.
I would never compare my Coleman cooler to my Pelican cooler. Price is drastically different and so is the life of the ice.
Tool for every job.
Hope to see you in Flagstaff!
I have the coleman stove (with the red tank). My Dad bought it when I was a little shaver. Cooked a lot of meals in that over the years. Yes, they still make seals for them. MY other favorite is a stainless steel unit that uses denatured alcohol. I originally bought it for the boat (in 86). Still use it today as an outdoor/tailgate cooker. Very informative video!
Been using my Coleman stove for years and it’s been great! I don’t remember the price, but I know it was under $100. I just recently purchased a single burner backpack stove for my solo trips and I find that’s a great balance.
My wife and I took our Coleman pump stove around the USA with two kids under 6 in the 1990's. It cooked all our food on the way and never let us down.
Every time I fire it up the smell just brings back so many happy memories. And yep, sometimes I light it for that reason alone.
Using the equipment from same era-ish as the chief, such a cool idea. Really looking forward to that!
That was VERY helpful. I'm with you. Fold and go. And I have an FJ cruiser. Even less room than a jeep. I like the jet better but not 180 dollars better. Love the product reviews. Save us from making costly mis buys. So thanks Brad. Non bias product reviews are king.
I have been using a 70 year old Colman white gas stove for 30 years. Would have loved to see how it stacked up against any of the propane stoves. It has always been a great camp stove, and seems to work better in colder weather than my buddy's propane version. One nice thing about your propane stoves though, is ability to put a larger frying pan on them. The only problem is the windscreen on my old "suitcase" stove is that it limits the size of skillet you can use.
I have an old Coleman suit case that dates back to the 1930’s. The burner is cast iron and Coleman is embossed in the cast iron. Works like a champ, the end of the fuel tank is shaped like a funnel, no funnel required o fuel it. As far as the air pump issue. I went on eBay and found the original leather cups for the end of the pump rods and changed out all the cracked rubber cups to the old school leather cups. Put some light oil in the oil hole on the pump cap and seal perfectly. The leather cups are the only way to go with the old school lanterns and stoves.
Thanks for the videos Chief, I really enjoy them.
I have had 2 old Coleman stoves - 1 was yard sale find, the other one was my Dad's he used with my older brothers Boy Scout troops. I had a cheap Northwest Territory KMART stove after those but my current stove is a Camp Chef Everest. I love it.
@@adidas4275 would you say it’s better than a Coleman ?
I can't believe Camp Chef hasn't come out with their own version. Price would be in the middle and quality same or better than Jet Boil.
Great timing for this vlog. Good morning, Brad! I just enjoyed a great cup of coffee using my two-burner Coleman in the garage. In my van I use a Coleman single burner with a Gas One as a backup. On my next adventures I want to upgrade to the Jetboil...after observing the performance on your boiling test. The more compact size is a factor as well. In my survival backpack is a BSR stove in case my vehicle breaks down. I really enjoy watching your vlogs even though I'm a van lifer. I love to explore as well, just doing it differently.
Talking about a flexible hose, my dad's old Coleman propane stove (similar to your vintage one there) has a flexible hose on it. It's decent and has lasted probably upwards of 35 years. They should use those again!
I think it has something to do with code. For example, you can only run a flex hose to a gas dryer, but not a hot water tank or furnace. I believe it is a similar story with stoves, it needs to be rigid now. But what you modify after you buy it is up to you, heheh. ;)
I recently rebuilt my family’s stove and it works great. I am sure you will be able to find the correct parts. The constant pumping at first light up is all part of the charm. Good luck and i look forward to seeing it light.
Hey Brad. I bought a Stansport 30” flexible hose. This replaces the fixed copper tube and allows me to position the propane in different positions. But remember to always have it upright as it’s the gas on top of the liquid fuel that needs to pass through the regulator.
As an aside, I think the Genesis family are the only jetboil stoves that use propane. All the others use butane-based fuels (like isobutane).
Thanks, will have to look into that!
Did the same thing. Works great.
I appreciate your honest and practical review. So many reviews fail to recognize that when there is a 3 to 1 price difference, you expect more than a little nicer.
Wish I hadn’t given my dads old Coleman stove away. I look forward to seeing yours being used, and time test against modern stoves would be interesting.
I'm 63 and have eaten off of coleman stoves since I was a little kid. I still use a Coleman three burner that is probably about 40 years old. Many great meals for the family. I hope you have gotten it running because they really are great.
Do you ever take a "thermos" with you? If so heat the water the night before, that way it wont take as long next morning :)
The difference in heating time might be the distance between the grating and flame. Looked like the Coleman grating is higher.
I was thinking the same thing.
I agree
Exactly what I came to say
Cooktop height can make a big difference.
The height difference between grate and burner is the “problem”. Just came back from a trip and a friend had the Coleman and the distance from grate to burner was a killer with a breeze blowing. Made the unit essentially unusable. Five minutes and still couldn’t get enough heat on the pan to cook eggs!
For the Coleman and Jetboil propane stoves you can get an extension hose adapter that connects the propane bottle to the stoves then the propane bottle is out of the way. I've used one on my stoves for years.
Just casually shows a green cherokee with no explanation 😄
I've been using the traditional Coleman 1, 2 and 3 burner White Gas / Naptha Gas (also Reg gas) stoves for 50+ years. I prefer them because in my experience they burn hotter then propane stoves, and they burn in extreme cold temps (I live in Canada), when propane stops flowing (yes this is a thing)!
Plus you can use a folding Coleman Box Oven on a Coleman white gas stove which means you can bake anything in the field - pizza, pies, bread, etc.! With practice Coleman Ovens work great.
To lubricate the leather "pump cup" on old Coleman stoves, use Neatsfoot Oil, which you can buy many places on line. Coleman used to sell this in small tubes labelled as "Coleman Oil". It's an all natural oil, so is excellent to restore your leather pump cup.
When I was growing up back in the 60's & 70's, many of the older Green Machines had schrader bike tire valve stems installed to replace the charging pumps mechanism. I'd seen folks using the small bicycle pumps to pump them up and also, compressed air tanks…they cranked out some serious BTUs…Might even give the JetBoils a run for their money… Thanks HMCM! Ol' Scooter (HMCS) in East Texas
I remember my father taking us camping and he used the same Coleman white gas stove. Great memories. That was over 50 years ago. Great reviews of the folding stoves.
Don’t forget to check the gasket on the fuel filler cap. The older they are, the more likely they are to harden with age. Once that happens the tank won’t seal sufficiently to accept the pressure you’re pumping into the tank.
I have the Coleman 425E stove. No folding legs, 4 bumps on the bottom. Also, the grate is hinged. About 45 years old. Not only cooked 100's of meals, I use it to melt lead for casting bullets for my muzzleloaders. Perfect design. I also have 2 single mantle lanterns.
My dad had a Coleman stove and lantern for over 50 years, finally sold it in a garage sale. Never failed us but we kept it clean like knew and took care of. The gaskets need to be oiled to keep them soft and working. Pumping sucked though lol.
I have one of the old Colman stoves like yours. It was my grandpa's. When my gasket on the pump failed after being in storage for nearly 20 years I just soaked it in cooking oil overnight and it has been working just fine ever since for the last 5 years.
If I camped as much as Brad I’d probably go with that Jetboil, I like how it packs away in the pots. For me, I’ll keep using my old Coleman briefcase despite it being more work to use.
actually its pretty slick and I really like that stove , Gotta be honest all 3 impress me I have a 425 from 1976 just used it yesterday in Big Sur its well used bought it new! I reall wanted to see the 425 fire up
I picked up an old 425 F for $20 bucks at a yard sale a few years back. I use it for every car camping trip (overlanding as people call it now) I love it.
The Colemans burner is a little further away than the jet boil which may matter some I believe. I love your videos!
I second that!
I have a Fold n Go for a couple years and maybe 60 days in the field on two long road trips from Ontario to Nevada plus numerous weekend camps. The stove is still working very well.
You need to lubricate the plunger with light oil ( 3n1 or cooking oil) it works like an old tire pump you have to keep the plunger lubricated. I am in my 70 and have cooked lots of meals on the Colman white gas stoves. BUT today I use a one burner induction cooktop (Electric) cleaner, cheaper and safer than gas ( propane or white gas)
Exactly ! Like an old tire pump or even a Daisy B.B. gun the oil hole is in the end cap of the Coleman stove and lamps. I am Coleman only they work in extremely cold weather!
You can also stand the plunger up straight into a cap full of motor oil. Let it sit for an hour and you will be pleasantly surprised.
My old Coleman is older them me. It works great. It has gone on every hunt with my dad since I was 6. Now I have it in the garage and take it on camping trips. Yea it is bulky but it has never failed me and no tanks to replace or refill. 👍👍👍
I have the "old" big green Coleman... every time I go camping I want to drive over it with my Jeep :)
A fond memory for me is going with my father to the local Hardwar Store (you know the old General Store that had everything) and finding or "fancying" a new gasket for the Coleman. I am 58 yo now so this was quite a few years/decades ago.
Love seeing that old Coleman. Think we still have ours from when I was growing up. Those things are great when a storm comes along and knocks out power. When they are working right they last longer than the new fuel options. The folding camp stoves it looks too me like the Coleman's issue might be the distance between the flame and the coffee pot. Thanks for the video Brad.
Great comparison video! I have a vintage Coleman stove too. Finally retired it couple years ago for the fold n go. I also just added a home made skottle that I’ve been trying out.
Great vid but what’s up the Cherokee Chief?
I have the coleman 3 burner, white fuel stove. My father bought it back in the early 80's. It still works to this day and is almost as old as I am. We camp almost every other weekend. Finding white fuel for it is getting harder but you can find it if you know where to look. We get a lot of looks from other people camping wanting to know what it is. Coleman knew how to make them back then.
I grew up camping with the "vintage" Coleman stove. For the right $$, it's good enough. No need to re-invent the wheel.
Great video Brad, I really enjoy the retro or vintage camping. I think you will really enjoy the Coleman after some minor maintenance. For the last several years I have gone that direction to a more low-tech approach. But then I grew up in the 60's so it's maybe more nostalgic as I grew up using the old gear.
Great review! I was just hoping you could address this. One of my biggest complaints when it comes to "trailer" stoves is that they say they are either 2 burner or 3 burner stoves; but in reality, I can only place 1 pan on those at a time...I was wonder if either of the fold and go's can be simultaneously used on real size pots and pans?
Found a Coleman lantern in the woods when I was camping, looked like it had been there for a while.
Took it back to camp and pulled the weeds out of it and wipe it off just a bit.
Mantels were still good, had fuel in it, so I pumped it up and light it. Worked great.
That was 35 years ago and I still have it and the one I brought with me that day.
Darn, I wanted to see how the vintage Coleman did against the newer versions of stoves
I have 3 of those old things bought cheap as well... uses both white gas and regular fuel. Does really well as well. The older stove maintained will outpace anything made new.
I love the old Coleman stoves and lanterns. I also used to buy all the good examples I’d Come across at thrift stores, but I got over that and sold them. They’re really only practical when cooking for many. I still have a couple white gas lanterns. Those I still use regularly. Just love the hiss and the light they put off. I love lighting them, hanging them on a tree…that’s camping.
i have a lot of coleman stoves including a 413C, and it's a blowtorch. It's as fast as my buddy's jetboil. Oh, also they changed the tank color to red in 1958, so yours is pre that.
Ok I just finished. Did you try taking off the gas cap to see if the tank has pressure or not, after pumping? If it's not pressurizing, use Neatsfoot oil on the leather. That leather is fine i'm sure. Just needs some oil. If that doesn't solve it, the gasket in the fuel cap is bad. That's a problem on every old coleman gas cap. You can find a replacement on oldcolemanparts for a buck. One way to test is to swap the fuel cap off your 220 lantern there, it is the same size fuel cap. If the lantern is holding pressure, it should help you test. If none of that works, then the check valve in the pump is gummed up and needs to be cleaned/replaced.
They're fun to fettle and it's rewarding!
I still use my vintage Coleman 413H bought in 1978 and it still works great. Main burner rated 14k btu and aux burner 11k btu. I have only had to replace the pump one time. I still have the receipt paid $46.95 and is good enough for me. It is somewhat big but I always manage to fit it in.
Wait, did I miss something? When did the old chief turn green?
Bought a near new Coleman 35 yrs ago for $10 and have never regretted it since then I inherited my dads old Coleman that's at least 65 yrs old and still works great, granted I wouldn't want to backpack it but I'm 71 and that ship has sailed. Still great stoves.
Like you said, Brad, only three extra mins and more than 1/3 the cost…. Coleman is the way to go.
Only three extra minutes for one liter. That means the Coleman took 80% more time. That could mean some real time savings on larger volumes of water.
@@jakecarruthers6513 yes, but when camping, just how much do you need to boil? I won’t be cooking for a restaurant. Plus I’m out there to relax anyways so three mins is nothing. And yet those three mins saves me 2/3 the money? I’ll take the Coleman and relax and enjoy sitting for a few extra mins while camping alone or with my woman.
That's cool. Time is money. Time is memories. The point is, it's statistically significant. Likely burns less gas too. Sure, it's not for everyone, but it adds up. While you and your woman are watching water boil, my water will be done, and I won't have missed the sunrise, sunset, watching a wild animal walk by, etc. Peace.
I received the red Coleman from my brother probably over 10 years ago as a birthday gift. It’s still running strong. The clasp still works and locks. I put it in a North Face stuff sack and put it in my DryBox for 4 day canoe trips. It’s cooked for over 15 people at a time. Best part is the bottom does not get hot so you can put it on a cooler or plastic table so it’s great for tailgating as well. Zero complaints. Probably the best $75 you can spend. It’s great for cooking eggs without burning them too. Sometimes super hot isn’t really the best.
I'd rather wait an extra 4 minutes and save myself three times the price 🤑🔥🔥🔥
Love your shirt. I lived there for 32 years. I have a Coleman 424 2-burner stove. It’s what we always take camping. I also have the Coleman 533, but I just use that at home and don’t really take it out.
Still using my 1972 Coleman stove for 40 years. But I picked up the kit to use propane. Love it it one of my prize possession now along with the lantern.
I picked up the full genesis system for 275 Brad if you catch it on a sale…love it, yeah it’s a little more but very well built, picked up a cheap flexible adapter hose to go to it from my 5lb propane and good to go! Love the videos Brad, always look forward to, cheers!
We had one of the old green , pump up stoves back in the 1960's used it for four years while living and travelling in Canada and the USA . Used for 6 months every day when we drove all around North America . A great stove , simple to operate .
I have all manner of small, compact, and light gear that I have for a variety of good reasons. That old Coleman I just can't part with. I grew up with Dad and Grandpa cooking on it for us, and one day it became mine. Used right and properly maintained, it never fails. Nostalgia to be sure, but with a healthy dose of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
We absolutely love vintage camp gear! Great find & that’ll look awesome with your Setup. We enjoy your videos.
I've got that same old Coleman stove. Mine is circa 1968 and works flawlessly. It may not boil water in 4 minutes, but I love it.
My dad was born in the 40s and recently gifted me one of those old green Coleman’s , I love it it has a regular propane adapter so no need for the white gas
Great video pal! I love the passion for the antique. We learned how to use those, and the lanterns in army cadets. 38 year old me is grateful for the 12 year old me nostalgia!
I still use my old vintage style Colman. I have two of them. One I converted to propane, the other is original " dual fuel". Both work great and have cooked many meals for us.
I have had a Coleman 502 single burner stove since I was a young man. about 50 years. it still works fine I changed the generator once and cleaned the tank a couple years ago.
I just bought a 1980s Coleman stove at a thrift store. Looks like it was used maybe once if at all. I run it on propane. I spent $8 on the stove and $20 for the propane adapter. Works awesome! Love your vids btw!
Good video. I have 2 old Coleman fuel stoves. A 2 burner and a 3 burner that I’ve used for close to probably 50 yrs. I like the 3 burner because I can put the griddle on it and cook a big meal for all.
The pump gasket on mine is leather. And yes, a couple drops of oil will soften the pressure seal right up!
I just picked up the Coleman folding stove at Walmart on clearance for $45. I consider it a win. Thanks for the review.
My old Coleman stove kept us caffeinated on the campsite and in warm food during hurricanes for thirty years before I donated it to the Boy Scouts. I truly miss that stove and, despite the occasional need to be pressurized, I prefer white gas to propane to store and use at the campsite.
Hey Brad...regarding the classic Coleman stove. This is my Boy Scout cmping days using that style Coleman stove and suggest soaking the leather valve cup seal in 10w oil for a couple of days...It'll swell up and provide a better seal in the cylinder. Also as you pump up pressure if the fuel tank...place your thumb on the vent hole on the down stroke, let up your thumb to allow air to be sucked into the cylinder on the up stroke, to pressurize the fuel tank. Nice find on the classic Coleman and great comparison of the Jet Boil Genesis and Coleman Fold n Go stoves.
I had the Coleman Fold and Go when it first came out (at least I think it was when they first came out) and I bought it at the Coleman Store in Pigeon Forge, TN. I liked the compact nature of it, and even had the carrying case to go with it. But I didn't have any kind of windscreen, and that was an issue for me when I was tent camping. I ended up selling it at a yard sale a few years ago, because my dad gave me his old style Coleman stove (still propane) that had the flip up lid/windscreen. The classic just worked better for me. Anyway, enjoyed the video, have a great day!
We have a Coleman stove from the 60s and it still works. It's dual fuel, white fuel or unleaded gasoline. We found the two burner in the trees in a wash. Cleaned it up and it worked even with the old fuel in it. Replace the leather washer in the three burner and it's been running every day for a week on a gallon of fuel/ unleaded gasoline. Sometimes old school is best.