I'll never forget the time I was at a dry camp with only a litter and half of water, put 500 ml in my pot to make supper and just as it started boiling my pot tipped off the stove and spilled on the ground. Refilled and had a really dry hike the next day. It took me until about 3 the next day before I reached the next water source.
Great comparison and conclusion 🙂 I only started camping a few years ago and I've upgraded the tent, the mat, sleeping bag, got a ground sheet, etc but not my cheap own brand stove. Mainly because it came with a lightweight pot, a stand and a small stove. It does exactly what I need it to, admittedly not great in the wind but with a screen, it's all good. The Jetboil just seems too bulky and overkill for what I need.
You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB IME, that's mostly a theoretical concern, although I agree that it is worthwhile to feel the canister occasionally to be sure that your specific setup doesn't overheat in your specific environment. Heat mostly flows up rather than down (although it is possible to screw it up). Some people use a heat shield between the burner and the canister. I have never found it necessary, but I can see why a company selling a product might include such a thing. In the Winter, a little heat warming the canister is a good thing. Just don't over-do it. A more likely issue is overheating the TOP of the windscreen, which can get hot enough to melt (thin) aluminum.
Gear skeptic did a great video on this. If you're a little patient, you can turn the heat down to low medium, your fuel last at least double what it does at max setting.
@@TheMcspreader Gear Skeptic videos are for people who 1) Already know a lot and are looking to confirm their scientific assumptions, and 2) Desire to learn the reality of gear instead of the utter bollocks you'll get from the vast majority of outdoor UA-camrs...
Love my Jet boil. Yes it might be heavier, it’s great for a weekend trip for me. I like your suggestion with sharing it amongst others at camp, as it cuts cooking time as well as fuel consumption. The smaller lighter ones are intriguing but, I like the stability of the jet boil as well as not needing a pot grabber so that I don’t burn my fingers.
When my sister and I went on the PCT I used a Pocket Rocket and she used the Jet Boil. I was so jealous of her Jet Boil once I saw it in action! The wind screen and the speed of boiling was fantastic. She had no regrets carrying it. I think both stoves are great in their own way but the Jet Boil sure is luxury.
I obtained a jet boil while I was on the PCT because someone just threw it away in a hiker box. At the time I was using the BRS 3000 and it took 14 minutes to boil some water the second time I used it. I could get it down to about 8ish minutes if I was really careful about where I put it but tbh wished I had brought my pocket rocket with me instead. After seeing just how fast the jet boil was I ended up putting it in the next hiker box. Never ended up buying another one...
I use the BSR with a Titanium pot and have enjoyed the simplicity of the system. It also breaks down into a really small size when packing up, which is important for a bikepacking setup. I did buy the orange fuel canister stand at REI for about $5, which does make the system much more stable. If anyone is interested in a Jetboil system, you can currently get one at REI for less than $100.
One of the big benefits of the Jetboil is its wind protection design. Really would've liked to see this indoors test used as a control, with a second test done outside for more real world conditions.
@@the_peefster You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
I liked your conclusion on this one because there really is no one size fits all when it comes to gear like this. You absolutely hit the nail on the head that in a group setting on perhaps a shorter trip, the jetboil feels way more appropriate than say on a week+ trip on technical terrain where something like the BRS wins on weight. I've discovered something similar with down jackets as well where I am in the market for the lightest, most compressible jacket I can find to meet kit requirements on a mountain race where I'm using it as a layer. Many of the reviews on those jackets that are negative seem to come from people that don't have a proper understanding of the jackets use case, expecting it to perform in the cold as well as a much larger and heavier jacket.
the weight is really not much an issue when you consider you have to carry twice as much fuel with the brs stove if you did the week plus trip, then the weight is essentially the same...still have to consider the pot with the brs and the fuel can....the weight different is down to ounces...not much....i have both and the jetboil is exponentially more effective on week or longer trips...as a coffee drinker , adding the plunger to the jetboil is where the weight gets even more even as i dont have to bring a seperate item to make coffee , broken down it fits inside the jetboil pot with the stove, the fuel can ....end of the day, it saves carrying extra fuel, add the french press plunger at literally next to no weight, you get great coffee with out more bulk....the stability is what essentially seals the deal...
@@burnsidebobthorpe All fair points! I guess I was imagining more in the scenario like myself where I might be cold soaking meals and using a heated setup for coffee in the mornings. In which case even if I am using roughly 1.8x more fuel as demonstrated by Miranda, on a 198g canister I'd have to be going for more than 22 days before I ran out. In that time frame I'm usually either done, or would have passed though a place I could pick up more fuel as needed. Like I said originally I think there's a good argument to be made completely depending on the person and the trip needs.
Comparison video idea: We need to shine some love on the REI Air Rail sleeping pad. 1. It doesn’t feel like a pool toy. 2. The combo of air and insulation is perfect and thus you need not choose between them. 3. It is quiet and doesn’t sound like you are rolling on a bag of potato chips. 4. The rails actually keep you on the pad overnight. 5. The dual valves are well engineered. 6. The price point is very fair. Most pads fall in the 50, 100, 200, or 275 areas. The Air Rail is only 120. I’ve never worked for REI, but I’ve convinced 6 friends to get this pad, and no one regrets it. I’d hate for REI to discontinue it like they did to the Half Dome 1+ tent. I’d compare it to both foam and air pads of higher and lower prices. P.S. Can we add “This is my _____ gosh darn” patches to the store? Love the Channel!
Maddie of Beer In Beautiful Places had her stove with a pot full of boiling water tip over on her legs while thru hiking the Appalachian Trail last year. Always cook on the ground.
The jetboil is like the Americans spending a lot of money and effort to design a pen that can write in space and then the BRS is the Russians using a pencil.
@@Accurize2That's because the Soviet's response to any problem was never increasing efficiency, but always throwing at it more resources and manpower, until it stopped making sense.
After using both the Jetboil and BRS, I settled on the Soto Windmaster. Great efficiency, decently light, and I can swap to the 3 or 4 prong pot holder as needed.
Ive been using my jetboil about 5 years. One of the reasons I prefer it is because I like the fact the fuel, fuel stand, cleaning sponge silicon hot mat/pot holder & pot support all consolidated inside the jetboil pot. Most of my hikes are only 15 to 20 mile hikes so the extra wait isn’t bad. Does seam like overkill on some hikes. I personally haven’t had any major issues with my ignitor.
I've had the Jetboil since it came out in the early 2000's. It's my primary cooking system because it just works, and is extremely efficient. The BRS and titanium cup would be a great ultralight option. On backpacking trips I used it for group cooking and it's worked great. Maybe a little heavy for some but the benefits are worth it to me.
I bought the jetboil when they came out, to heat my ration pack meals in the British army, something a small cup and BRS can't do. I too have a BRS and small 500ml pot for freeze dried meals, knowing in the back of my mind the BRS will eat my fuel twice as fast. It's shame people who make jetboil videos don't know how to use them, or what they are for....
Bought a Grippi copy of the jetboil on Amazon for under $23 works great piezo igniter never fails. If you use the brs you need to weight the pot wind screen tank stand and on a longer trip the additional fuel you have to carry. By turning down the heat exchanger stove you can also reduce fuel consumption and therefore weight. For short trips a 100g tank can be used reducing weight for either stove. The Grippi stove was on sale regular price is about $45 . I bought a 2nd to carry in my truck.
BUT with that being said, you should look at the Jetboil Stash instead (their attempt at getting into the UL scene)! I feel like that would have been a better comparison to the BRS.
The jetboil comes with a cozy, technically, since coozy is a portmanteau of "cool cozy". Oh shit sorry I thought this was Seth Meyers so I was offering a correction.
Great video, been doing this for years and i also own a jetboil (primarily for the sailboat). It's a good stove. BRS is also a good stove, I also have a couple MSR stoves, SnowPeak, trangia and fancee feast alcohol stoves etc. and they are all tailored to a specific purpose for me. I agree with others, U-do-U, just depends on the situation. They are all good stoves for my purposes.
I've never paid more than $12 for a BRS stove. I have bought about a dozen of them too (I give gear to friends and family) Stove, pot (Toaks 550ml), and lighter (Bic Mini) come out to 106.2g/3.75oz and cost me $40.50. The Jetboil is bulky, heavy, and expensive. Plus you still have to carry a lighter since their piezo is essentially defective by design. So you lug around a broken piezo igniter plus a lighter for no reason. Sure, it boils faster, and uses less fuel but it costs 3 times as much, costs more than 3x as much, and takes up easily 2-3x the space too.
I’ve got many stoves including the flash 2.0 jetboil. I’d probably say it’s my go to stove. I even take it on site to make myself a brew. I’ve saved every penny I outlayed on gas saving. So it’s a bargain now that I’m still using it and it’s paying me now 😂
I've been using a knock-off version of the BRS for a while now. For me, the size and weight make it a winner, but I'm pretty solidly in the ultra-light camp. That being said, one metric that you did not cover is what the overall system weight is for each; how much does the entire Jetboil weigh vs how much does the BRS + cookware weigh? We also carry a home made foil screen with ours, which doesn't add much weight at all, but I would factor it into any comparison. Finally, I can attest to the instability of cooking with the BRS-style stove. It's very difficult to set it up perfectly level, and I have had the pot slide off of the stove more than once. I've never been close enough to get splashed, but it is a bummer to lose some of that hard earned water, especially if I'm not camping near a water source.
I have the MSR windburner stove. It's heavy, but once you add in a pot, windscreen, and additional fuel for the pocket stove, I still prefer the MSR system.
At my age (74) I must carry less weight on even overnight trips. I use my BRS on low power until the water steams then turn it up. This greatly improves fuel efficiency. The main design fault with BRS is the unnecessarily large gap between the flame and the pot. Another is the lack of a wind shield. I have also heard you can melt the pot stand off them if your pot runs dry while the burner is full on. Titanium pots are really limited to boiling water since as a poor conductor its easy to burn food. I therefore use a light aluminium pot which serves all purposes and improves boiling efficiency. Its cheaper than titanium too yet a similar weight. Everything including BRS, lighter, utensils, pot scrubber and gas bottle packs into my pot. I will only use a jet boil when I can borrow it from someone else in our party. It's way to heavy to be an advantage. Thanks Miranda for encouraging people to think about the pros and cons of jetboil versus BRS. Its been a worthwhile conversation and confirmed to me that for my needs BRS is more than adequate.
I have the Soto Amicus and I love it! It has yet to fail and works well in windy conditions. It also comes with a handy cookset that a fuel canister can fit it. Pricewise it's between the BRS and Jetboil
Great experiment and fair experience-expectation-based recommendations! Now I just need to convince my buddy to stop cooking in his JetBoil so it doesn’t taste like all the previous things he’s cooked.
I've used the BRS for 4 years now and its great. But I've added a Firemaple 1L pot which has a built-in heat exchanger which really improves efficiency. I also use a titanium windshield and a $5 canister stand. It all folds down into the pot and costs a total of less than $60. (And as a bonus the Firemaple pot clips onto the BRS as if they were made for each other - much more stable!). I also take a SeaToSummit collapsible cup and the whole system weighs about 70% of the Jetboil. In the wild(ie. with wind etc) it was within a minute of my friend's Jetboil for 0.5L of water. We didn't weigh the fuel, and I suspect the Jetboil probably uses less. But I can go for a week's trip with one 270g canister. Plenty good enough for me. If I do upgrade it will be to the Soto Windmaster and I'll dump the wind-shield which should keep the weight the same.
I say it depends on what you’re doing when requiring the stoves. If I’m backpacking the BRS (which I use) is amazing. If you’re camping on a portal ledge climbing big wall the jet boil alllll the way. Edit: I purchased my BRS on Amazon for less than $16
Soto windmaster everytime with toak titanium pot with the jet boil stand nested inside. Fuel efficiency is important & that is why BRS fails, To bee fair I do more than boil water on my windmaster, I can cook feats by adding MSR ceramic skillet & this set up making other campers jealous
''a full cook system''. made me laugh. hot water for instant coffee and a shot of honey. food is fuel. pack in your own dehydrated staples, some granola, and tins of sardines and surstromming. hi end food prep is taking time away from frisbee with the dog and the last rays of that awesome sunset. ''why spend money when you can spend time?''
Apples and Oranges comparison. With the JetBoil you are getting a pot, cozy, heat indicator, heat wind screen, heat flux, lid, a stand for the gas canister, even a measuring cup. Plus the JetBoil has accessories, aka, it's a system. I have the French press & pot supporter adapter. As far as the piezo, I have had my JetBoil for 10+ years and it still works. I did have to bend it back down once. With all of that said, for ultralight backpackers, go with the pocket rocket.
Great and refreshing comparison! Personally, I did my best to get the best of both worlds and so I got the Jetboil Stash combo, and sold away the stove that comes with that combo since its low BTU, has no wind protection and doesn't have a regulator, I kept only the pot which is awesome, it has the heat exchanger fins under it to capture sideways heat from the stove (which makes it super efficient). The stove I use with this pot is the soto windmaster. The combination wasn't my idea, it was found to be the most efficient combination that is currently on the market. Boil time of 1 minute and 40 ish seconds, handles wind extremely well since its the soto windmaster, boils at half the fuel consumption that the windmaster would do on its own, and in super cold weather it has a regulator to make sure you can keep a steady rate of gas output. The Jetboil Stash is the most lightweight pot Jetboil makes, so the combination of it plus the BRS could be an interesting review for ultralighters who want to have roughly double their fuel efficiency yet don't need the windmaster since they aren't in cold weather - maybe it could mean carrying a smaller gas canister since you get double the boils, or carrying only one gas canister instead of two in a group hike. Worth a check for sure.
Very helpful, thank you. I am going to do a 100+ mile hike and trying to knock down my weight for the trip. Love my jet boil and its stability, but the weight!
Was doing the JMT with a few friends and while cooking dinner at the outlet of Thousand Island Lake, one of the friends had one of the BRS stoves. It sprung a propane leak at the stove-canister connection and proceeded to ignite blowtorch the canister toward a catastrophic explosion. We flung it into the outlet of the lake to put it out (and recovered it) but I can't, in good conscience, recommend trusting these stoves. You get what you pay for.
I will stick with the lower priced one. 😂 🎉 Thanks for the informative video. I can enjoy nature for the extra minute and a half. Excellent video as always!
I have a snow peak light weight stove with a built in piezo ignition. I have several other lightweight stoves, but that’s always my first choice, and the fuel and stove fit nicely into my pot.
Thank you for the delicious LMNT blueberry orange tea recipe! This may become my new favorite morning hot drink since the chocolate medly is no longer available. I absolutely loved the chocolate Chai flavor.
Firstly, your original Jetboil stand was defective so I made one from wood. Secondly, the original Jetboil ignition never worked although new, so I bought tons of defective lighters until I found reliable ones. Thirdly I am absolutely flummoxed that you sell a Jetboil cooking pot THAT IMPLICITLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE ORIGINAL BURNER BUT IS NOT, and without warning the happy camper cannot use the pot. And decides to post a consumer fraud or quasi fraud. No idea where to get a compatible burner but I don't want one. I WANT YOUR COMPETITORS TO COMPETE!!!
Loved this format ! And the medium options are well appreciated !!! Currently preparing for my first backpacking trip, and I'm rewatching all your videos even more than usual 🥰 (and bought a dehydrator haha) Thank you so much for all the comprehensive info xx
Gas one makes an alternative to the 3000 T stove that is basically the same but it will simmer very well and the arms are slightly thicker. It’s still weighs about the same. My biggest gripe with the BRS is its inability to simmer. The gas one simmers very well.
I bought the Jetboil when I was first starting out (at REI of course), I only use it to boil water and for that purpose it's pretty flawless. You're right about fuel sipping, cans last FOREVER.
I feel very old school… I use a TRANGIA alcohol stove which the full system (windscreen, pot stand, fry pan, 1l pot) is 700 grams. However I don’t need fuel canister and can get fuel at any drug store. I also cook on the trail rather than boil water so like the pot and pan. It’s also bomb proof on the trail.
Thankfully the piezo on my Minimo works fantastic. Never had any issues using it weekly over the past couple years. But I always carry a lighter anyway. Great comparison!
As I write this on 05/28/24, there are 425 comments already posted. Please forgive a possible duplication of someone else's comment. I've enjoyed many videos from Miranda and her henchpersons to the point where I usually hit the like button before the first thirty seconds. Too many UA-cam reviewers set the stove control valve wide open, then use a stopwatch for time to boil. Why? A better efficiency comparison has always been grams of fuel per boil, rather than time to boil. Thanks to Miranda and crew for not just comparing these stoves with a stopwatch. Where the comparison goes askew, IMHO, was that radically different pots were used. The size, shape, and material of the pot in relation to the burner has to be considered. The Jetboil heat exchanger pot is probably 30% more efficient at transferring heat from the burner to the water. A better comparison to the Jet Boil might be something like the MSR Pocket Rocket 2, with a heat-exchanger pot of similar volume and material. Such pots are available from Bulin and Firemaple for $25-35. The GSI Pinnacle Dualist HS, about $99 includes bowls, insulated cups, and foons (sporks) for two. It might be interesting to see what the results would be if they were to set the Jetboil pot on top of the BSR burner. The MSR PocketRocket Deluxe might be a more directly comparable set-up if paired with a Bulin or Firemaple heat-exchanger pot. Add a canister stand for stability, and you're probably close in performance and cost. Of course, budget and equipment already on hand are factors. BTW, the heat indicator of the Jet Boil seems like superfluous gimmick because the boiling temperature of water varies with altitude. At my home altitude (7850') in Colorado, water boils at around 194°F, probably before the color changing indicator would show full boil. Steaming and bubbling are usually an adequate indication of boiling. The erratic performance of the Jet Boil igniter has got to be disappointing considering the cost of the stove. Tsk, tsk Jetboil. With any canister stove, it may be better to open the fuel valve just a little to ignite, then adust the flame. Flick your Bic first, then open the valve. All the above, easy for me to say; I don't have to crank out excellent videos every week.
Jetboil stoves are MASSIVE in a backpack and their usefulness is lost on anyone who isn't a high altitude trekker or someone who cooks in high-wind environments. The BRS along with a cheap rollable winshield from 3F-UL (WAY better than flimsy tin foil) found on AliExpress will pretty much match the Jetboil's performance in over 90% of conditions, with the last 10% of conditions being the kind of shit nobody outside of Special Forces should be camping in... Every time I see a backpacker with a Jetboil, I just know that they've sacrificed SO much bag space for no good reason.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I’m so worried about knocking the lil pot off the burner that I always pick my JetBoil. (ADHD is a bitch) I wonder how long the BSR last compared to a JetBoil? I think my first jet boil lasted seven years (at least) before I bought a replacement burner.
Jet boil: unreliable, heavy, has low packability and costs alot more. I love my BRS. Also who is spending $50 USD on a pot? Just get a toaks, light af and cheap too..
There is a chinese copy of the SOTO Windmaster named Campingmoon XD-2F for $26 USD, which some reviewers find actually better than the original. It is certainly worth lookung at 😉 Also, there are some other pots with heat exchanger, and you can buy the canister stand separately. I believe it is possible to build a setup as efficient as the Jetboil for half the price and double the versatility 😊
Love my jetboil. My ignitor quit on me while i was out on a hunt without a back up lighter. What worked for me was bending the little wire back into its original spot it was too close the burner. What i realized i was storing the burner incorrectly which in turn was smashing the igniter closed. Now i make sure it is stored correctly and it works everytime now 👍
Danger Zone pop-up 🙌 🇺🇸 ✈️ Time For Some Science 🙌 👩🔬 Also, new MGO fans, there’s an original old school Miranda In the Wild video she did with a BUNCH of stove options. Recommend. And my guess is she can’t reference it bc it was done w her former employer. But you can still find it!!
I want to like your channel, BUT! 1. Your videos are overly too long, get to the point. Learn better editing skills. 2. Who ever is talking to you, STOP. Do you want an audience of one or 1,000s? Check out channels done right. They talk to you like you're right there with them. Bush Radical, Ambition Strikes, Nikki Delventhal, Linnea & Akela, Samcrac, etc.
Jetboil seems like a good car camping stove. It would take a very very long time between resupplies before the fuel efficiency outweighed (haha) the excess... weight. My BRS AND the small size fuel canister AND a lighter AND folding spoon AND a bandana all fit inside my 650ml ti pot. The lightweight canister stand I added just goes in the food bag - anyone know a canister stand that folds up smaller? I'm in the market. The price difference is negligible over the expected life of the product. You'll burn way more cash on fuel in the long run than on either stove/set. I don't care anything about boiling in 2 minutes, 4 minutes, 10 minutes. I might start grousing about 20 minutes. I mean, I've used alcohol stoves. 4 minutes is ~blazing~ fast. Eventually I will knock over my pot on the BRS but it hasn't happened yet. It has with most other stoves I've used. Jetboil looks like a good hanging stove system for exposed ledges and snow caves. So yeah, use cases for both. Also, full blast without the windscreen heat exchanger thing wastes fuel. Blows lots of heat out and away from the sides.
Nice Skygoat and Melly. Both are cute and warm. We got a Jetboil decades ago when they were “the thing” to get for backpacking. We also got it for $13 at an REI yard sale because the piezo didn’t work. 😂 We still have that jetboil, and aside from the igniter it is bomb-proof. I use a Jetboil Zip, it doesn’t have a “piez-no”😅 and holds less water, but it weighs a little less and is a tiny bit shorter. I’ve heard a few horror stories about the BRS, so as much as I would like to drop a several ounces, I’m a little scared of that stove. I’ve been thinking about Soto Windmaster and pot, which would take me from 11oz down to 6-7 (depending on the pot). But right now my pack weight is 21-22lbs with a bear canister and jetboil. So I’m sort of okay with the heavier system. The stability is really nice also.
Neither of them. Soto Windmaster. Saved you all 17 minutes. I find it highly amusing how people will take the BRS instead of the Soto to save a couple of grams, but then bring a 400g Z-lite pad instead of a 100g EVA foam one, for example.
Here's another thought on the JB vs BRS: Calories. How many extra calories do you burn hauling the extra weight of the JB? How much extra space do you need, and does that push you into another larger size backpack, or did you have to leave other things to make space for it? I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but things to consider from another perspective. Also, I'd always opt for the $30 Tokes 750ml over the Snowpeak, which keeps costs even further down.
Are you familiar with the JetBoil Stash? It’s relatively new and the best compromise! It works like a jetboil, but light like and ultralight pot/stove system. It’s awesome!! Also the fuel savings of a JetBoil add up in weight and money pretty quickly over time.
Telling my doctor I weigh 81,000 almonds.
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94,840 almonds here. You made me do math!!
49,895 almonds 😂
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I'll never forget the time I was at a dry camp with only a litter and half of water, put 500 ml in my pot to make supper and just as it started boiling my pot tipped off the stove and spilled on the ground. Refilled and had a really dry hike the next day. It took me until about 3 the next day before I reached the next water source.
Great comparison and conclusion 🙂
I only started camping a few years ago and I've upgraded the tent, the mat, sleeping bag, got a ground sheet, etc but not my cheap own brand stove. Mainly because it came with a lightweight pot, a stand and a small stove. It does exactly what I need it to, admittedly not great in the wind but with a screen, it's all good.
The Jetboil just seems too bulky and overkill for what I need.
Also, a foil windscreen makes the BRS almost as efficient as the JetBoil.
You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB IME, that's mostly a theoretical concern, although I agree that it is worthwhile to feel the canister occasionally to be sure that your specific setup doesn't overheat in your specific environment. Heat mostly flows up rather than down (although it is possible to screw it up).
Some people use a heat shield between the burner and the canister. I have never found it necessary, but I can see why a company selling a product might include such a thing.
In the Winter, a little heat warming the canister is a good thing. Just don't over-do it.
A more likely issue is overheating the TOP of the windscreen, which can get hot enough to melt (thin) aluminum.
I have the BRS stove and that exact pot. I love them both and the definitely DO tip over 😂
Gear skeptic did a great video on this.
If you're a little patient, you can turn the heat down to low medium, your fuel last at least double what it does at max setting.
Was looking for this comment. 100% solid info from him.
@@TheMcspreader Gear Skeptic videos are for people who 1) Already know a lot and are looking to confirm their scientific assumptions, and 2) Desire to learn the reality of gear instead of the utter bollocks you'll get from the vast majority of outdoor UA-camrs...
Ultralight hikers: "What is a stove?"
Lol 25 almonds 😂 us Americans will use anything but standard measurement tools
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Yes y’all are so annoying…!
So where do I find the online almond-calculator?
Love my Jet boil. Yes it might be heavier, it’s great for a weekend trip for me. I like your suggestion with sharing it amongst others at camp, as it cuts cooking time as well as fuel consumption. The smaller lighter ones are intriguing but, I like the stability of the jet boil as well as not needing a pot grabber so that I don’t burn my fingers.
100%
When my sister and I went on the PCT I used a Pocket Rocket and she used the Jet Boil. I was so jealous of her Jet Boil once I saw it in action! The wind screen and the speed of boiling was fantastic. She had no regrets carrying it. I think both stoves are great in their own way but the Jet Boil sure is luxury.
A jet boil is 1/6 the price of an actual small whirlpool stove. The jet boil is way overpriced. You’re better off buying it on sale or secondhand.
I obtained a jet boil while I was on the PCT because someone just threw it away in a hiker box. At the time I was using the BRS 3000 and it took 14 minutes to boil some water the second time I used it. I could get it down to about 8ish minutes if I was really careful about where I put it but tbh wished I had brought my pocket rocket with me instead. After seeing just how fast the jet boil was I ended up putting it in the next hiker box. Never ended up buying another one...
@@TheAirlock have you taken a Whirlpool stove camping? If you have, you'd know that it boils water slower than a jet boil
I use the BSR with a Titanium pot and have enjoyed the simplicity of the system. It also breaks down into a really small size when packing up, which is important for a bikepacking setup. I did buy the orange fuel canister stand at REI for about $5, which does make the system much more stable. If anyone is interested in a Jetboil system, you can currently get one at REI for less than $100.
One of the big benefits of the Jetboil is its wind protection design. Really would've liked to see this indoors test used as a control, with a second test done outside for more real world conditions.
I use rhe brs i just carry a windscreen i bought from naturehike, could damn near it in a gale
sooooooo many other channels have already done all those tests and more tho
@@d.2110 So you’re saying this video is unnecessary then?
@@the_peefster You probably know, but just in case: with this type of "tower" stove where the burner is on top of the canister, one has to be careful not to fully enclose the canister/stove combination within the windscreen: temperature can rise a lot in that enclosed space and create issues with the system, up to turning the canister into a bomb. Leave plenty of open space (on the lee side) or rig the screen so it only shields the burner. Or get a remote attachment so the canister can be detached from the burner and sit outside the screen. (still needs to be careful.)
@@DominiqueB my windscreen sits several inches away from the stove
Introducing, the pietz-sometimes! The pietz-possibly! The pietz-tentially!
It’s Pavlov’s pietzo!!
@@RainerGolden Schrödinger's pietzo
@@JoelBecker72 Oh yes, that is what I meant 😂
pietz-soso
I liked your conclusion on this one because there really is no one size fits all when it comes to gear like this. You absolutely hit the nail on the head that in a group setting on perhaps a shorter trip, the jetboil feels way more appropriate than say on a week+ trip on technical terrain where something like the BRS wins on weight.
I've discovered something similar with down jackets as well where I am in the market for the lightest, most compressible jacket I can find to meet kit requirements on a mountain race where I'm using it as a layer. Many of the reviews on those jackets that are negative seem to come from people that don't have a proper understanding of the jackets use case, expecting it to perform in the cold as well as a much larger and heavier jacket.
the weight is really not much an issue when you consider you have to carry twice as much fuel with the brs stove if you did the week plus trip, then the weight is essentially the same...still have to consider the pot with the brs and the fuel can....the weight different is down to ounces...not much....i have both and the jetboil is exponentially more effective on week or longer trips...as a coffee drinker , adding the plunger to the jetboil is where the weight gets even more even as i dont have to bring a seperate item to make coffee , broken down it fits inside the jetboil pot with the stove, the fuel can ....end of the day, it saves carrying extra fuel, add the french press plunger at literally next to no weight, you get great coffee with out more bulk....the stability is what essentially seals the deal...
@@burnsidebobthorpe All fair points! I guess I was imagining more in the scenario like myself where I might be cold soaking meals and using a heated setup for coffee in the mornings. In which case even if I am using roughly 1.8x more fuel as demonstrated by Miranda, on a 198g canister I'd have to be going for more than 22 days before I ran out. In that time frame I'm usually either done, or would have passed though a place I could pick up more fuel as needed. Like I said originally I think there's a good argument to be made completely depending on the person and the trip needs.
omg immediately liked for "Mike Tyson is a basketball player"
He a professional pigeon trainer beyond that I know nothing lol
In fairness, he did have a basketball court at his house that had a "Team Tyson" logo painted on it, so he was a basketball player.
@scottplumer3668 I think he also was fairly successful selling frozen chickens in the supper market too 😀
His brother Steven Tyson sings with that band Aerosmith
@@thedirtyknobs yeah everybody knows that.
I’ve had my original Jetboil for about 20 years. I use it on every camping trip, cold hiking trips, music festivals and every road trip.
I had a Coleman Peak stove for 25+ years before I replaced it. It kicked butt - but it was HEAVY, especially when the fuel tank was full.
Comparison video idea:
We need to shine some love on the REI Air Rail sleeping pad.
1. It doesn’t feel like a pool toy.
2. The combo of air and insulation is perfect and thus you need not choose between them.
3. It is quiet and doesn’t sound like you are rolling on a bag of potato chips.
4. The rails actually keep you on the pad overnight.
5. The dual valves are well engineered.
6. The price point is very fair. Most pads fall in the 50, 100, 200, or 275 areas. The Air Rail is only 120.
I’ve never worked for REI, but I’ve convinced 6 friends to get this pad, and no one regrets it. I’d hate for REI to discontinue it like they did to the Half Dome 1+ tent.
I’d compare it to both foam and air pads of higher and lower prices.
P.S. Can we add “This is my _____ gosh darn” patches to the store?
Love the Channel!
Maddie of Beer In Beautiful Places had her stove with a pot full of boiling water tip over on her legs while thru hiking the Appalachian Trail last year. Always cook on the ground.
rookie mistake. surprised no one warned her not to do that.
The jetboil is like the Americans spending a lot of money and effort to design a pen that can write in space and then the BRS is the Russians using a pencil.
And somehow the Soviets still went bankrupt first.
@@Accurize2That's because the Soviet's response to any problem was never increasing efficiency, but always throwing at it more resources and manpower, until it stopped making sense.
Except that's apocryphal because you can't have graphite floating in space where it might interfere with electronics systems ...
And the pencil nip broke off, leaving graphite floating amongst electrical instruments , endangering there return journey.
The jet boil is almost as bad as the BRS in the wind that’s why I use an MSR windburner.
Piez-maybe? Piez-Noooooooooooo 😂 BRS for me. Was a great video. Thanks.
After using both the Jetboil and BRS, I settled on the Soto Windmaster. Great efficiency, decently light, and I can swap to the 3 or 4 prong pot holder as needed.
I'll give this video a thumbs up for the back to the Future references alone let alone the information about the products. :)
I don't camp often but I like a Jet Boil system. I only care about boiling water for bag meals. I like how quick and stable they are. 💯✌️🤟🤘
Ive been using my jetboil about 5 years. One of the reasons I prefer it is because I like the fact the fuel, fuel stand, cleaning sponge silicon hot mat/pot holder & pot support all consolidated inside the jetboil pot. Most of my hikes are only 15 to 20 mile hikes so the extra wait isn’t bad. Does seam like overkill on some hikes.
I personally haven’t had any major issues with my ignitor.
I've had the Jetboil since it came out in the early 2000's. It's my primary cooking system because it just works, and is extremely efficient. The BRS and titanium cup would be a great ultralight option. On backpacking trips I used it for group cooking and it's worked great. Maybe a little heavy for some but the benefits are worth it to me.
I bought the jetboil when they came out, to heat my ration pack meals in the British army, something a small cup and BRS can't do. I too have a BRS and small 500ml pot for freeze dried meals, knowing in the back of my mind the BRS will eat my fuel twice as fast. It's shame people who make jetboil videos don't know how to use them, or what they are for....
Miranda: Mike Tyson is a... basketball player?
Rainer: OHHHH MY GOOOOD
Bought a Grippi copy of the jetboil on Amazon for under $23 works great piezo igniter never fails. If you use the brs you need to weight the pot wind screen tank stand and on a longer trip the additional fuel you have to carry. By turning down the heat exchanger stove you can also reduce fuel consumption and therefore weight. For short trips a 100g tank can be used reducing weight for either stove. The Grippi stove was on sale regular price is about $45 . I bought a 2nd to carry in my truck.
ehhh, 2 different kinds of stoves for 2 different purposes for 2 different audiences/campers/hikers.
BUT with that being said, you should look at the Jetboil Stash instead (their attempt at getting into the UL scene)! I feel like that would have been a better comparison to the BRS.
This is the exact conclusion of the vid!
I like the jetboil for car camping. Just too bulky and heavy for backpacking. I'll stick to my MSR. Great information, thanks for the demonstration. 😊
The jetboil comes with a cozy, technically, since coozy is a portmanteau of "cool cozy".
Oh shit sorry I thought this was Seth Meyers so I was offering a correction.
Great video, been doing this for years and i also own a jetboil (primarily for the sailboat). It's a good stove. BRS is also a good stove, I also have a couple MSR stoves, SnowPeak, trangia and fancee feast alcohol stoves etc. and they are all tailored to a specific purpose for me. I agree with others, U-do-U, just depends on the situation. They are all good stoves for my purposes.
Hard to take advice from someone who thinks Mike Tyson was a power forward 😮…
I've never paid more than $12 for a BRS stove. I have bought about a dozen of them too (I give gear to friends and family) Stove, pot (Toaks 550ml), and lighter (Bic Mini) come out to 106.2g/3.75oz and cost me $40.50. The Jetboil is bulky, heavy, and expensive. Plus you still have to carry a lighter since their piezo is essentially defective by design. So you lug around a broken piezo igniter plus a lighter for no reason. Sure, it boils faster, and uses less fuel but it costs 3 times as much, costs more than 3x as much, and takes up easily 2-3x the space too.
I’ve got many stoves including the flash 2.0 jetboil. I’d probably say it’s my go to stove. I even take it on site to make myself a brew. I’ve saved every penny I outlayed on gas saving. So it’s a bargain now that I’m still using it and it’s paying me now 😂
Yeah I have both. BRS for fastpacking jetboil for family hiking trips i even bring the jetboil on car camping trips sometimes
Right! These are two very different stoves for very different use cases.
There's also the firemaple which is like a cheaper jetboil
The Fire Maple Polaris is superior due to the pressure regulating burner. And it's $50 cheaper.
If your tentmate farts so hard it knocks over the stove, the stove is the least of your problems
I've been using a knock-off version of the BRS for a while now. For me, the size and weight make it a winner, but I'm pretty solidly in the ultra-light camp. That being said, one metric that you did not cover is what the overall system weight is for each; how much does the entire Jetboil weigh vs how much does the BRS + cookware weigh? We also carry a home made foil screen with ours, which doesn't add much weight at all, but I would factor it into any comparison. Finally, I can attest to the instability of cooking with the BRS-style stove. It's very difficult to set it up perfectly level, and I have had the pot slide off of the stove more than once. I've never been close enough to get splashed, but it is a bummer to lose some of that hard earned water, especially if I'm not camping near a water source.
True. and subtract the weight of the can holder and cup. Or add a cup and can holder to the weight and cost of a BRS setup.
BRS or Pocket Rocket, Toaks 750ml, the support stand, and a wind guard is my go to. Light and cheap.
Mine, too, but I'm seriously thinking about getting the canister stabilizer. I keep the BRS inside my cup/pot so it doesn't get lost
So adds up to the same as a jetboil then,
I have the MSR windburner stove. It's heavy, but once you add in a pot, windscreen, and additional fuel for the pocket stove, I still prefer the MSR system.
I was accidentally watching the video at 1.2x and thought Miranda was just really excited to talk about stoves
In a lot of ways, its really comparing apples and oranges between those 2 stoves. They each have their place.
You've got to do the $3,000 tent on the CyberTruck. Just saw Kara and Nate do it. Gota see what you think!
Thanks for the video. But I’m a Svea123r person and nothing will change my mind lol
At my age (74) I must carry less weight on even overnight trips. I use my BRS on low power until the water steams then turn it up. This greatly improves fuel efficiency. The main design fault with BRS is the unnecessarily large gap between the flame and the pot. Another is the lack of a wind shield. I have also heard you can melt the pot stand off them if your pot runs dry while the burner is full on.
Titanium pots are really limited to boiling water since as a poor conductor its easy to burn food. I therefore use a light aluminium pot which serves all purposes and improves boiling efficiency. Its cheaper than titanium too yet a similar weight. Everything including BRS, lighter, utensils, pot scrubber and gas bottle packs into my pot. I will only use a jet boil when I can borrow it from someone else in our party. It's way to heavy to be an advantage.
Thanks Miranda for encouraging people to think about the pros and cons of jetboil versus BRS. Its been a worthwhile conversation and confirmed to me that for my needs BRS is more than adequate.
Jet boil for car/campground camping! BRS for backpacking! I have both and use them in this way. Great review! Thank you!😊
Best stove in 2024 is campingmoon xd-2f
I have the Soto Amicus and I love it! It has yet to fail and works well in windy conditions. It also comes with a handy cookset that a fuel canister can fit it. Pricewise it's between the BRS and Jetboil
Unlocking phone with passcode on camera… time to change your passcode!
😆 yeppppp def missed that and grateful to all the people who told me!!
Miranda activated my iPad by calling out to Siri.
i love my mini-mo (piezo been working 2.5 years) and when i go lite or cold i love my fancy-feast alcohol stove😸
I agree with your review 100%, the jet boil style stays in the SUV and the little pack stove is in the pack.
Learn how to use it properly then.
thus a new weight unit was born. almonds
Jet boil comes with a pietzo shit
You can pry my jetboil from my cold dead hands.
FireMaple Petrel HX pot is $18 and fits perfectly on the Soto Windmaster for a fraction of a JetBoil's cost.
Great experiment and fair experience-expectation-based recommendations!
Now I just need to convince my buddy to stop cooking in his JetBoil so it doesn’t taste like all the previous things he’s cooked.
I've used the BRS for 4 years now and its great. But I've added a Firemaple 1L pot which has a built-in heat exchanger which really improves efficiency. I also use a titanium windshield and a $5 canister stand. It all folds down into the pot and costs a total of less than $60. (And as a bonus the Firemaple pot clips onto the BRS as if they were made for each other - much more stable!). I also take a SeaToSummit collapsible cup and the whole system weighs about 70% of the Jetboil. In the wild(ie. with wind etc) it was within a minute of my friend's Jetboil for 0.5L of water. We didn't weigh the fuel, and I suspect the Jetboil probably uses less. But I can go for a week's trip with one 270g canister. Plenty good enough for me. If I do upgrade it will be to the Soto Windmaster and I'll dump the wind-shield which should keep the weight the same.
This sounds like an excellent system thanks for sharing!
I say it depends on what you’re doing when requiring the stoves. If I’m backpacking the BRS (which I use) is amazing. If you’re camping on a portal ledge climbing big wall the jet boil alllll the way.
Edit: I purchased my BRS on Amazon for less than $16
Soto windmaster everytime with toak titanium pot with the jet boil stand nested inside. Fuel efficiency is important & that is why BRS fails, To bee fair I do more than boil water on my windmaster, I can cook feats by adding MSR ceramic skillet & this set up making other campers jealous
''a full cook system''. made me laugh. hot water for instant coffee and a shot of honey.
food is fuel. pack in your own dehydrated staples, some granola, and tins of sardines and
surstromming. hi end food prep is taking time away from frisbee with the dog and the
last rays of that awesome sunset. ''why spend money when you can spend time?''
Can someone tell me, what other burner a Jetboil pot fits? I know the Jetboil pot stand fits amazingly onto the msr windburner. Facts please! 🤗
Apples and Oranges comparison. With the JetBoil you are getting a pot, cozy, heat indicator, heat wind screen, heat flux, lid, a stand for the gas canister, even a measuring cup. Plus the JetBoil has accessories, aka, it's a system. I have the French press & pot supporter adapter. As far as the piezo, I have had my JetBoil for 10+ years and it still works. I did have to bend it back down once. With all of that said, for ultralight backpackers, go with the pocket rocket.
Great and refreshing comparison! Personally, I did my best to get the best of both worlds and so I got the Jetboil Stash combo, and sold away the stove that comes with that combo since its low BTU, has no wind protection and doesn't have a regulator, I kept only the pot which is awesome, it has the heat exchanger fins under it to capture sideways heat from the stove (which makes it super efficient). The stove I use with this pot is the soto windmaster. The combination wasn't my idea, it was found to be the most efficient combination that is currently on the market. Boil time of 1 minute and 40 ish seconds, handles wind extremely well since its the soto windmaster, boils at half the fuel consumption that the windmaster would do on its own, and in super cold weather it has a regulator to make sure you can keep a steady rate of gas output. The Jetboil Stash is the most lightweight pot Jetboil makes, so the combination of it plus the BRS could be an interesting review for ultralighters who want to have roughly double their fuel efficiency yet don't need the windmaster since they aren't in cold weather - maybe it could mean carrying a smaller gas canister since you get double the boils, or carrying only one gas canister instead of two in a group hike. Worth a check for sure.
Very helpful, thank you. I am going to do a 100+ mile hike and trying to knock down my weight for the trip. Love my jet boil and its stability, but the weight!
Was doing the JMT with a few friends and while cooking dinner at the outlet of Thousand Island Lake, one of the friends had one of the BRS stoves. It sprung a propane leak at the stove-canister connection and proceeded to ignite blowtorch the canister toward a catastrophic explosion. We flung it into the outlet of the lake to put it out (and recovered it) but I can't, in good conscience, recommend trusting these stoves. You get what you pay for.
There's a rubber gasket to seal the canister to the stove, and it pays to bring an extra one, tho scary way find out u need one 😮😅
@@danielsingh9415 yes the gasket was still present but broke or got pinched. It was too cooked to tell once we got it out and cooled down.
Just found your channel! And I love your content so far. I’m a hunter and just looking for solid gear that’ll keep me alive back in the woods
Yes, but you have to carry twice the weight in fuel to go the same distance with the BRS. That isn't ultralight
Happy with my walmapart special that cost $10.
I will stick with the lower priced one. 😂 🎉 Thanks for the informative video. I can enjoy nature for the extra minute and a half. Excellent video as always!
I have a snow peak light weight stove with a built in piezo ignition. I have several other lightweight stoves, but that’s always my first choice, and the fuel and stove fit nicely into my pot.
Thank you for the delicious LMNT blueberry orange tea recipe! This may become my new favorite morning hot drink since the chocolate medly is no longer available. I absolutely loved the chocolate Chai flavor.
"BRS stove, ya basic!" - Miranda
Firstly, your original Jetboil stand was defective so I made one from wood.
Secondly, the original Jetboil ignition never worked although new, so I bought tons of defective lighters until I found reliable ones.
Thirdly I am absolutely flummoxed that you sell a Jetboil cooking pot THAT IMPLICITLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE ORIGINAL BURNER BUT IS NOT, and without warning the happy camper cannot use the pot. And decides to post a consumer fraud or quasi fraud.
No idea where to get a compatible burner but I don't want one. I WANT YOUR COMPETITORS TO COMPETE!!!
Loved this format ! And the medium options are well appreciated !!!
Currently preparing for my first backpacking trip, and I'm rewatching all your videos even more than usual 🥰 (and bought a dehydrator haha)
Thank you so much for all the comprehensive info xx
i bought a titanium bowl that i picked up at REI. Had some oatmeal that needed reheating and i was surprised the bowl warped on the bottom.
I've been using the BRS for years... Never failed me. Works and boil your water... That's it and plenty enough for me.
Gas one makes an alternative to the 3000 T stove that is basically the same but it will simmer very well and the arms are slightly thicker. It’s still weighs about the same. My biggest gripe with the BRS is its inability to simmer. The gas one simmers very well.
We should 100% normalize almonds as a primary unit of measure. “My bike weighs 5,669 grams.” See. It just rolls off the tongue.
I bought the Jetboil when I was first starting out (at REI of course), I only use it to boil water and for that purpose it's pretty flawless. You're right about fuel sipping, cans last FOREVER.
I feel very old school… I use a TRANGIA alcohol stove which the full system (windscreen, pot stand, fry pan, 1l pot) is 700 grams. However I don’t need fuel canister and can get fuel at any drug store. I also cook on the trail rather than boil water so like the pot and pan. It’s also bomb proof on the trail.
Thankfully the piezo on my Minimo works fantastic. Never had any issues using it weekly over the past couple years. But I always carry a lighter anyway. Great comparison!
BRS has worked out great for me. Next lets see Miranda go over to the dark side and use an alcohol stove ;-)
Homemade alcohol stove 😅
As I write this on 05/28/24, there are 425 comments already posted. Please forgive a possible duplication of someone else's comment. I've enjoyed many videos from Miranda and her henchpersons to the point where I usually hit the like button before the first thirty seconds.
Too many UA-cam reviewers set the stove control valve wide open, then use a stopwatch for time to boil. Why? A better efficiency comparison has always been grams of fuel per boil, rather than time to boil. Thanks to Miranda and crew for not just comparing these stoves with a stopwatch.
Where the comparison goes askew, IMHO, was that radically different pots were used. The size, shape, and material of the pot in relation to the burner has to be considered. The Jetboil heat exchanger pot is probably 30% more efficient at transferring heat from the burner to the water. A better comparison to the Jet Boil might be something like the MSR Pocket Rocket 2, with a heat-exchanger pot of similar volume and material. Such pots are available from Bulin and Firemaple for $25-35. The GSI Pinnacle Dualist HS, about $99 includes bowls, insulated cups, and foons (sporks) for two.
It might be interesting to see what the results would be if they were to set the Jetboil pot on top of the BSR burner. The MSR PocketRocket Deluxe might be a more directly comparable set-up if paired with a Bulin or Firemaple heat-exchanger pot. Add a canister stand for stability, and you're probably close in performance and cost. Of course, budget and equipment already on hand are factors.
BTW, the heat indicator of the Jet Boil seems like superfluous gimmick because the boiling temperature of water varies with altitude. At my home altitude (7850') in Colorado, water boils at around 194°F, probably before the color changing indicator would show full boil. Steaming and bubbling are usually an adequate indication of boiling.
The erratic performance of the Jet Boil igniter has got to be disappointing considering the cost of the stove. Tsk, tsk Jetboil. With any canister stove, it may be better to open the fuel valve just a little to ignite, then adust the flame. Flick your Bic first, then open the valve.
All the above, easy for me to say; I don't have to crank out excellent videos every week.
Jetboil stoves are MASSIVE in a backpack and their usefulness is lost on anyone who isn't a high altitude trekker or someone who cooks in high-wind environments. The BRS along with a cheap rollable winshield from 3F-UL (WAY better than flimsy tin foil) found on AliExpress will pretty much match the Jetboil's performance in over 90% of conditions, with the last 10% of conditions being the kind of shit nobody outside of Special Forces should be camping in... Every time I see a backpacker with a Jetboil, I just know that they've sacrificed SO much bag space for no good reason.
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I’m so worried about knocking the lil pot off the burner that I always pick my JetBoil. (ADHD is a bitch)
I wonder how long the BSR last compared to a JetBoil?
I think my first jet boil lasted seven years (at least) before I bought a replacement burner.
Jet boil: unreliable, heavy, has low packability and costs alot more.
I love my BRS. Also who is spending $50 USD on a pot? Just get a toaks, light af and cheap too..
There is a chinese copy of the SOTO Windmaster named Campingmoon XD-2F for $26 USD, which some reviewers find actually better than the original. It is certainly worth lookung at 😉
Also, there are some other pots with heat exchanger, and you can buy the canister stand separately.
I believe it is possible to build a setup as efficient as the Jetboil for half the price and double the versatility 😊
Love my jetboil. My ignitor quit on me while i was out on a hunt without a back up lighter. What worked for me was bending the little wire back into its original spot it was too close the burner. What i realized i was storing the burner incorrectly which in turn was smashing the igniter closed. Now i make sure it is stored correctly and it works everytime now 👍
Danger Zone pop-up 🙌 🇺🇸 ✈️
Time For Some Science 🙌 👩🔬
Also, new MGO fans, there’s an original old school Miranda In the Wild video she did with a BUNCH of stove options. Recommend. And my guess is she can’t reference it bc it was done w her former employer. But you can still find it!!
I want to like your channel, BUT! 1. Your videos are overly too long, get to the point. Learn better editing skills. 2. Who ever is talking to you, STOP. Do you want an audience of one or 1,000s? Check out channels done right. They talk to you like you're right there with them. Bush Radical, Ambition Strikes, Nikki Delventhal, Linnea & Akela, Samcrac, etc.
i love LMNT but saying 1000 mg of sodium ... which actually means 1 g of salt ... feels a bit over the top! ahahhaha
I use the BRS with a Neoross windscreen. Works like a champ and eliminates the stability issues. Still under 3oz.
Jetboil seems like a good car camping stove. It would take a very very long time between resupplies before the fuel efficiency outweighed (haha) the excess... weight.
My BRS AND the small size fuel canister AND a lighter AND folding spoon AND a bandana all fit inside my 650ml ti pot. The lightweight canister stand I added just goes in the food bag - anyone know a canister stand that folds up smaller? I'm in the market.
The price difference is negligible over the expected life of the product. You'll burn way more cash on fuel in the long run than on either stove/set.
I don't care anything about boiling in 2 minutes, 4 minutes, 10 minutes. I might start grousing about 20 minutes. I mean, I've used alcohol stoves. 4 minutes is ~blazing~ fast.
Eventually I will knock over my pot on the BRS but it hasn't happened yet. It has with most other stoves I've used.
Jetboil looks like a good hanging stove system for exposed ledges and snow caves.
So yeah, use cases for both.
Also, full blast without the windscreen heat exchanger thing wastes fuel. Blows lots of heat out and away from the sides.
Nice Skygoat and Melly. Both are cute and warm.
We got a Jetboil decades ago when they were “the thing” to get for backpacking. We also got it for $13 at an REI yard sale because the piezo didn’t work. 😂 We still have that jetboil, and aside from the igniter it is bomb-proof.
I use a Jetboil Zip, it doesn’t have a “piez-no”😅 and holds less water, but it weighs a little less and is a tiny bit shorter. I’ve heard a few horror stories about the BRS, so as much as I would like to drop a several ounces, I’m a little scared of that stove. I’ve been thinking about Soto Windmaster and pot, which would take me from 11oz down to 6-7 (depending on the pot). But right now my pack weight is 21-22lbs with a bear canister and jetboil. So I’m sort of okay with the heavier system. The stability is really nice also.
I've used a Jetboil Flash for the past 3 years ( including a PCT Through hike attempt ), and the Piazzo has only failed once and was quickly fixed.
Could the jetboil cup fit on the BRS stove? I'd be curious to know how that performs. Or the BRS with the firemaple heat exchanger cup.
Neither of them. Soto Windmaster. Saved you all 17 minutes. I find it highly amusing how people will take the BRS instead of the Soto to save a couple of grams, but then bring a 400g Z-lite pad instead of a 100g EVA foam one, for example.
Here's another thought on the JB vs BRS: Calories. How many extra calories do you burn hauling the extra weight of the JB? How much extra space do you need, and does that push you into another larger size backpack, or did you have to leave other things to make space for it? I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but things to consider from another perspective.
Also, I'd always opt for the $30 Tokes 750ml over the Snowpeak, which keeps costs even further down.
Are you familiar with the JetBoil Stash? It’s relatively new and the best compromise! It works like a jetboil, but light like and ultralight pot/stove system. It’s awesome!! Also the fuel savings of a JetBoil add up in weight and money pretty quickly over time.