I'm still using the full size Coleman two burner "white gas" stove I bought at age 15. (I'm 65 now.) The 50 year old stove is backed up by a slightly smaller 40 year old two burner Coleman. Together the two stoves have carried me through multiple South Carolina hurricanes and even two rare blizzards. For backpacking, I use the single burner white gas Coleman. All three are American made and none have ever failed me. It's too bad that modern campers do not know the elegance and reliability of the old stuff.
Gas stoves are absurdly simple and the physics haven’t changed in half a century. It’s sad they refuse to make stuff like they used to. I’m watching this video because I need a larger camp stove and I’m probably going with a Coleman because that’s what Dad had and I don’t really plan on using my backpacking cookware for anything but backpacking. Thermal mass is my friend and if I don’t have to lug it on my back I see no reason to restrict myself to thin cookware.
I still have the 3 burner. My 2 burner was stolen so got another coleman 2 burner propane. I broke down and got a stove/oven combo and it works well. I like the stove top ovens too. Have a large & small. They work on woodstoves & a grate over a campfire.
I still have my grandfather’s Coleman stove and lantern, I’m 62. Both still work well and you can buy parts for them. Not wanting to hunt down white gas, I also have one of the last American made dual fuel 2 burner, single burner, and lantern. All 3 have the ability to run on unleaded gas, and with regular maintenance will last a lifetime.
Yeah, I've got a couple "white gas" stoves and lanterns and they run just fine on unleaded gasoline. Single mantel lights are the way to go because they burn half as much fuel as the double ones and throw 3/4 as much light. I use propane around the house, but nothing beats the older white gas stoves/lanterns for camping. Less than half the cost of propane to run them too.
I recommend using a square cast iron pan. The thick cast iron is better for temperature regulation, and the square shape sits better on a 2 burner stove and maximises cooking area.
Sweet! Today I got a Coleman 425E from a thrift shop for $7.83. It's oily and scorched so needs a deep clean but so fun to find these things. I have the Coleman he has up in this video bought new in the 90s. It also needs a clean. Way back then it was probably $29 I can't remember. But with inflation that's way more than what you paid. Congrats! 👍
I got my mid 50’s Coleman stove in the early 90’s at an estate sale for $17 in essentially new condition. It has been heavily used in my ownership and still has many years in it. I think that it is easily superior to any modern propane camp stove because of the old school rugged construction, simple maintenance, and in particular, no expensive disposable cylinders that lose pressure when they get cold or are half full.
I got an old coleman needing some maintinence that works well. It was made in the 50's and still works. The old 3 burner stoves are bigger and will fit the 12 inch pans.
We went with the Camp Chef Everest 2X, which fixes most of the concerns you had. I also like the simmer control and raw power that the Everest has. The 2X adds metal latches, better wind guards, and a center mounted piezo that works!
Big fan! The only reason I didn’t put them in the video is that I was trying to focus on propane stoves. I assume Primus makes some sort of propane stove, but I’ve only used their butane.
Inherited a Coleman and used it for years but after 40 + years I gave it to someone who needed one and got a camp Chef. Heads and shoulders above the old tried and true Coleman. Good comparison video Drew.
That is neat to hear. I have often wondered if the earlier generations of Colemans were better than these newer top tier stoves. No longer do I need to wonder. Haha. Thanks for sharing.
I was camping with some buddies and one of them had a Camp Chef that we all used to cook all of our meals. I asked him how long he's had it, expecting him to say like 2 or 3 years and he said he's had it for over 20 years and it still looked almost brand new
I just lost my Colman Liquid Gas Stove I have had since 1966. Destroyed in Hurricane Ida. I have not found a propane stove to equal it. The only maintenance was cleaning and periodic replacement of worn out pumps. Lightning was originally done with wooden matches, later with butane “fireplace” lighters.
That hurts to hear. Those older Coleman's were pretty bomb proof. We keep hoping to get our hands on one. It has been a couple of decades since we have used one.
You can still buy white gas Coleman's. Look for the "Duel Fuel" ones. Basically, white gas and unleaded are the same thing. That's what we started using when we couldn't find any Coleman fuel.
We use a new-ish 2 burner Coleman propane stove. We use it often, and clean it regularly (full disassembly), and frankly, it seems like a flip of a coin whether it will work or not. Don’t matter whether or not the wind is blowing, how cold it is, etc. Sometimes it will burn as hot as we dare on a nice blue flame, and then the next morning we can barely get it to sputter. Then we try again at lunch and it’s roaring like nothing happened. Yes, we have the tank turned on, yes, we’ve checked the hose and all fittings for leaks. Its disheartening that the Coleman is somehow the best of the bunch because we can’t seem to rely on it to cook our food when we need it to.
The best testimonial for the Coleman stove you demonstrated: The one I bought in about 1990 is still going strong thirty years later, has never needed repairs, and I've never felt any desire to replace it with anything fancier. Given its low price, it's an incredible bargain, and that bargain keeps getting better as the years pass!
I have the Eureka XL and it’s been amazing. It’s rugged, has adjustable feet which allows it to balance almost anywhere, and cooks well. I’ve used a Coleman in the past and still enjoy using it, but the Eureka is hands down favorite.
I have the XL and while the power is a bit lacking, getting bigger pots/pans on there for huge groups is a game changer! We put on a 12" cast iron pan and a 8Q cast iron pot for soup at the same time. everyone else could fit only one or the other
for those wondering about new coleman white gas or dual-fuel stoves, they are still made in kansas and the quality is as good as the older ones made from the 70's and up. just as heavy-duty and just as reliable. getting harder to find though, most stores only stock propane and butane stoves now.
I really like hearing people with a positive relationship with their gear. I think many of us chase new shiny things, when some of our original gear was the best and should have been kept.
We have owned a smaller one for 18 years now. Although it is a little bulky it always goes in my backpack for backpacking trips. Not only is it super reliable, it is been great getting alternate fuel for it in a pinch. Thank you for sharing Jeff.
Piezo igniters are a waste, they all fail surprisingly quickly in my experience. I don’t even consider them a positive feature when selecting a stove. We’ve been using a Camp Chef Everest for car camping since 2013; it’s been used and abused and is still going strong. We need the large size since there are six of us when everyone is along and we have to use decent size cookware. The gas hookup can be finicky, but I have a technique to hook up that works well (how I angle my hand and how much pressure I apply). You are right about the plastic latches, they barely work out of the box and go downhill from there. You didn’t mention that there are screw adjustable feet on the bottom that can allow you to level the stove on an uneven surface. I don’t recall if Coleman or Eureka have them, but I find it very handy.
It's interesting that the Camp Chef Everest switched to plastic clasps. The one I purchased a decade or so ago, before the Mountaineer was available, used a single metal clasp in the front which has held up fine so far. It looks like the Everest 2x now uses a metal clasp on each side. To avoid the issue of having a propane tank weigh down the side I purchased an adapter that lets me use 5 to 20 pound cylinders that rest on the ground. The 5lb tank doesn't take much more space than the disposable 1lb tanks and has the benefit of being refillable.
The photograph you showed of the Camp Chef stove with the high flames, this was caused because the propane cylinder was being used upside down ! The propane vapour is above the liquid, that is what stoves burn. Trying to run the stove with the propane bottle inverted forces liquid propane into the regulator ! This can also ruin the gas regulator. That may explain some of the complaints ? You do a great job on your videos, I know you put a lot of time into them, I appreciate that. I added a metal latch on the lid of my stove, less than $4 from the hardware store, a few pop rivets.
Over the years we’ve went from the Coleman table stove, to the stand up grill/stove to the one burner screw on top simple stove. This weekend we’re using the fire that woods provide for us. We’re empty camp nesters these days so it’s easy. Love your content as always. PA camping this weekend involves a low of 50 and a high of 79. Cheers! Btw, it’s great that you’re out there providing people solid reviews that can assist someone making a decision on getting the right product. I know UA-cam has helped us out over the years in saving our money. ✌🏻
I'm amazed at how expensive they are. Think I'll stick to my 25 year old Coleman three burner with manual lighting. Has never failed to work. I used it at home recently when we had a natural gas outage, and I hardly missed the stove. Also have a Coleman one burner butane that is a joy to use and cost all of $20. Cheapest place to buy the butane is an Asian grocery store. I have lots near me.
Yes, these prices were quite shocking to me as well. Especially, like I mentioned in the video, when they really have not improved in quality over the years.
Adding to the Coleman simmer fix link Drew provides...I used brake cleaner to clean my jet thingamabob. I also am married to a veterinarian and they use long wooden handled cotton swabs that simply do not leave lint behind. Those I spritzed with brake cleaner and did the inside of the gas valve body. I'm sure your local vet could supply you with a few. I needed two per knob. People, it really works, get the factory grease out of there, clean everything and I replaced with a light grease, dielectric silicone grease matter of fact. Not sure how long a silicone spray would last in this application.
Thank you so much for sharing this! Until your comment I honestly didn't know this was a fix for new stoves as well. I had originally stumbled upon this with help from the community in the comments. I was having issues with my simmer. Now I will suggest folks do it on day one!
The modified latch sounds just like Mark. Great idea by the way. Fix it before it goes bad. I wish I thought that way. Unfortunately I am the guy that limps around with broken gear much too long before I actually sit down to fix it.
A little late in viewing but what is amazing is how you still have videos in the can to produce and post. In the 60s and 70s it was all about aluminum pots and plans and coffee pots even plates. For Backpacking. Burning meals was a constant thing. At a church swap meet at 9yrs old, per the recommendation of my Dad I purchased a stainless mess kit. Cooking spred out a little more of the heat. Still burnt things but I still use it when I go. I still use the pot and the coffee pot. They are as black as charcoal.
I have my mom's stainless from the 50s I use at home and camping. Although I keep trying different pans, those stainless have been consistent performers.
I’ve used a Coleman stove forever. Not sure what would actually make it stop working. Now with the Bean, I’m using the Partner stove. I’m so used to the lack of simmer control on the Coleman that I don’t even notice issues with the partner stove. Great review!!
We have two Camp Chef stoves. The smaller 2 burner (propane) works great and is easy to transport. The other is the larger 3 burner and that sucker will cook red beans at altitude. We love both of them, the 3 burner larger stove has its on table and is great. Camp Chef to me is top shelf.
I have the Camp Chef Everest. Either the first or second time I used it it flared up big and tall, like you mentioned. Scared the heck out of me! It hasn't done it again but let's say I am aware. What is good about Everest is the high BTU especially at higher altitude which is most of my camping in mountains. Higher altitude slows cooking times so the Everest helps to compensate the loss. Great video! Thanks for your thorough reviews. So helpful!
GOOD UA-cam Channel!!!! For simmer control on Coleman you need to Reclean and LUBE the valves/o rings then you can control the flame to fine point !!!!! ~~~~ I purchased Coleman after extensive research…
Great information Drew! I still use the Coleman “Propane” stove that I bought in 1986. I have taken it apart and cleaned it in March this year. It is still working very well! I do like that Everest stove you are using. I always put mine on a park table. I also built a little 2x4 riser for it. So I can keep the bacon warm. I like the tire table too. We enjoy your videos! Look forward to them! Have a Good Time!
That is so neat. I just got into Trangias over here in Asia. They are really fun to use, small, and make a great pocket sized marshmallow /smore stove. I never knew the name until you typed it here. I had to google it.
@@PlayingwithSticks A Trangia gas burner and winter mix canister will work at -15 Celsius Blizzard. A must have even as a backup. I like a 3 burner for family cooking as more room. Cheers Steve from Aus.
Although I don't own one (yet) - no one ever points out that the Jetboil at 10,000 btu heats faster than stoves with 2x the btu which = less than 1/2 the fuel consumption.
The Piezo ignitor can be fixed many times. Piezos sometime just need the spark gap adjust - it is too close or too far - fixed usually by just bending the little end bracket. The next fix is the piezo is trying to spark to a corroded piece of metal that is no longer conductive - the corrosion needs to be sanded away or the spark end of the piezo needs to be moved.
@@JackFalltrades Yeah! the fixes have helped me out a few times. Agreed. Those long lighters are great. Mine just died, so I need another pack. However, my brother has fallen in love with his new long-stem, electric, rechargeable arc-lighter. Waiting for a long term report.
Well that is nice to know. I think that is why the majority of new stoves get poor reviews. Which is kind of funny because folks make the stove out to be almost useless without the ignition. I will admit though I have looked at my Mr Buddy Heater as almost useless after my ignition went out. Haha. So I guess I am no different.
LOVE my Eureka Ignite plus! Awesome simmer control and love the way it looks and cleans up easily. It gets a ton of use. Got my eyes on a skottle at some point. Thanks for the work!
Great review. Two modifications that can be easily made with most of these stoves would be to have larger control knobs for finer heat adjustments. Also the position of the burners always seem to be to close to the edge. I would suggest shifting both burners approx. 0.5" to 1" closer to the center for more uninform temperature for the two burner griddles that are now so popular without having to purchase a separate Blackstone Grill. The burner placement could be established through some testing by the manufacturer and would still work fine for separate pots or pans.
I've got more camp stoves than I know what to do with, but my favorite is still the Coleman 425. Got it for $20 at a thrift store, and both of my lanterns for $10 each. One of these days, I'll run across a Coleman 533 for a good deal and I'll snap it up.
Right there with 'ya, white gas everything. One of my stoves, the favorite, is a three burner that I've not seen anyone else use. Coffee goes on and still room to cook other things.
There is a video on how to take the Coleman flame control knob out and clean and lubricant. I did what the video showed and now the flame will go where I want.😊
I’ve used my “Duel Fuel” Coleman for 30 years and never a problem. I watched to see if I wanted an “upgrade” but I think I’ll stick with ol’ reliable. Thanks for the review!
Our dual fuel coleman backpacking stove still continues to beat out everything in our kit. Yes, it is quite large in terms of backpacking gear. But it is hard to beat the reliability and the ability to use multiple fuel sources in a pinch.
I use the base camp with half gen and Luna satellite. Few different sized flux pots. Jet boil mini mo for additional help. System is great. Some king camp tables and charbroil grill 2 go x200 your set
Oh yea, I love camping stoves. You could do 100 videos on stoves and I would watch them all! We just got the Camp Chef Mountaineer on sale at REI for $280. Also first haha
What is it about stoves? I have the obsession as well. It started with just smaller stoves. Now I enjoy so many stoves of different styles and sizes. On my hunt for a Mountaineer yesterday or the day before it looks like the stock is very low. Not only did you get a sale. You may have purchased one of the last one's left. Never mind. They are back in stock today!
My family uses a dual burner butane, not propane, stove with the canasters stored internally on either end. Never had problems, works great. And the simplest set up ever. No tank to skew on or hoses to loose. It's basically two singles put together in one package. Kiss.
@@NITROexpress17 oh, if you were asking me if I'm a bot, hell no, it's just what I used and liked it, just brought it up cause the lack of a simmer control was one of the downsides of the coleman in the video. Actually getting to sell mine now since I upgraded to a Kovea slim
Thanks for this video. I guess you just need a bigger table. I use a 48" folding table. I have the Everest 2X and used to have the Rainier 2X. Both have metal latches. Agree with you on plastic latches. I grew up in a hurricane prone country. About 6 years ago, I sent my family members a few Everest but 3-burners. Still working until today. They are ready if power goes out for long time.
Yeah, a couple of us are looking at induction for its precision and lower waste heat. A youtuber has even been using an induction as his boondocking stove on his used converted van for a few years now, though he has the solar setup to support it.
Thanks Brian! I learned about the simmer fix from the community. But until yesterday I didn't realize it was something we should all be doing when we buy the stove new.
Hi Drew, I am a little sad that you did not include another well know brand Primus! I grew up with them and a few years ago upgrated to the Tupike, Yes I know it is a premium version but at 60 I'm worth it..lol ( besides gave my daughter the coleman). I wanted to share one trick I have found with you and hopefully your viewers.. I have also had issues with the simmer on stoves and have been using the "scorch buster" diffuser plate from Outback oven for a number of years ( They sold them separately). This has been a big change and although they are no longer available I have seen similar products on Amazon.
Oh sorry. I didn't premise the video very well. I was highlighting stoves that run off propane. Does primus make a propane stove? I assume they do, but I have never seen one. And yes, we love our little primus backpacking stoves. Very easy to clean/repair in the field and have held up all these years. Great tip on the scorch buster. I have never heard of anything like this. Any chance you can share a link to one of the similar products? I can add that to the description of this video. Thank you!
Scorch Buster! Good one! I've been stacking cooking rings to get the pan further away, but this is a far more elegant and probably safer method. Thanks!
@PlayingwithSticks hey drew, yes the car camping stoves run on propane and come with an adapter to run on isobutane, so actually dual fuel. This is handy as I carry a smaller iso butane canister for my small lantern I use occasionally and it serves as a back up to my 5lb propane tank.
We used the standard Coleman propane for 15 years and love it but with faster boils and adjustability of the flame the Everest comes out on top. If I had to use the Coleman again I would have no problem going back to it. You get used to taking the pan on and off the flame to get even cooking. We have tried the fire disc but its size and the weight kept it out of our gear list. Might have to give the skottle a look if its lightweight.
Matt, you can try out. our Tembo Tusk Skottle at HTCE4 if you'd like. It is the large original version with the Coleman propane single burner. I recently switched the burner to a Kovea for a broader hot spot. It is a bulky, heavy beast, but very versatile.If I were doing it again, I'd look at the smaller tabletop version. I have a Snow Peak Baja Burner that's replacing my 40 year old white gas Coleman 425 you've seen. The Skottle and Baja Burner will both fit in a Snow Peak IGT setup. Thanks again for more wonderful content, Drew!!
I have 2 Coleman white gas stoves. One old one over 60 years old and a newer white gas one. Then recently ( last 6 years ) a Coleman propane stove.They are for canoe camping or Hurricane power outages. Then I went lighter with the canoe stoves. Switched to a single burner Gas One Duel fuel , Butane or Propane one. They even have a duel fuel double burner. Backpacking it's a Firebox Gen 2 titanium Nano since I hammock camp and downed wood ( twigs and small branches ) are always available. Also included is a titanium Evernew alcohol burner which fits inside the Nano as a secondary heat source. Can't say which I like the best since each has it's own niche and use.
I boought a single burner Coleman butane stove for when the power goes out. We live in the country and it happens lol. I love love love it. My dad has 50yr old Coleman 2 burner stove and it is amazing
I have a single burner camp stove called “American”-something. I got it back in the 90’s. That little stove can boil water so much faster than my coleman 2 burner. To use of for simmering, I just put the pot on top of a cast iron griddle, or maybe a diffuser that I have for making fancy coffee - two things I already have. Best of all, since I bought it in the 90’s, it only cost me a few bucks at the time…. If it’s just me I bring the single burner. If it’s me and my hubby for several days, I’ll add the Coleman 2 burner.
Love hearing this. We have a similar no name one burner stove that we love. I haven’t carried it around in a while, just due to testing stoves. But it has never let me down. It was a very inexpensive Walmart purchase back in the day.
@@PlayingwithSticks I think my one was a K-mart purchase. That should date it. 😂. I’ll say that none of mine have an igniter. All of them require a match or lighter. Never bothered me to do it that way. For years my home stove tops and oven was match lit.
With regards to your comment about daisy chaining a 3rd burner, we always carry a small white gas backpacking stove as well as our propane one. This 2nd stove not only provides a 3rd burner if needed but saved our butts when our main stove died on a trip. Not only does it provide stove redundancy but also an alternative fuel option. Just my own experience. Cheers!
Said they had a bad reggie but the propane tank was *upside down.* You're supposed to run this one tank slanted, this isn't heckin' winter condition. I've also got this stove and I've never had flare-ups when running a 20lb adapter.
I just randomly picked one of many photos I didn’t even notice the upside down regulator. There is reviews all over online of the regulator issue. Like you we’ve had no issues with ours and we’ve used it for two seasons. Intermittently but in many different situations.
We are still using a Camp Chef Everest from 15ish years ago. Old enough that they have changed part numbers and a took a while to find the proper ignitor when one of ours finally failed this year. I wish there was a way to take it as low as possible without shutting off (I think the new Blackstone griddle finally solves that). But. It has been a great stove. Bought a Coleman single burner a few years back for a solo car trip, its heat control was so poor that it ruined the cookware I brought on that trip, and it ended up in the trash. Handles good in the wind and the cold. Thought about replacing it when the ignitor failed, but its just been such a great stove that I fixed it. Will note that our latch is metal, not plastic. The newer ones don't seem quite as well built as the old ones (shocker!)
Thank you for the video, I think I am going to go with a Coleman, don't know the specs but it's at my local wholesale club & I can afford it. But the ones you show here will be in future... that is if they still stand the test of time.
I think you are making a great choice. A Coleman stove paired with some second hand home pots and pans from a thrift store is a great route to go. Like I mentioned if you keep the backpacking/camping cook items away from the Coleman it is a GREAT stove.
My dad and I went camping alot back in the 80s. He had everything you could think of back then. But someone started removing things from his trailer. Pots, pans, silverware, grills and everything else. I miss camping with my dad.
You are reminding me of my camping days with my grandpa. I can completely relate. When I was overseas my family split up his possessions after my Grandmother passed away. I was hoping to just get a piece or two from his camping kit, but unfortunately I missed out. I regret not getting back home for that moment.
@Playing with Sticks when my dad passed. I didn't get anything from his camping trailer. Cause alot of stuff was stolen. But I did get a brand new 6 man tent still in the box, 2 cots still in the box and a pair of binoculars still in the box. But they are from a couple of years ago. Not back from the 80s.
@@stolnpckup Sorry to hear about the thieves. Nothing worse than someone taking what others worked hard for. But, glad to hear you got something, even if it wasn't a nostalgia piece from the 80s. Thanks for sharing. You brought some good memories to mind for me today.
Bit late to the party here but I’m also in the Everest 2X camp. It has metal clasps to lock the lid, very effective wind blocking panels and amazing power either way fine simmer control. I’ve been using mine almost every day for the last 2.5 years full timing in my teardrop. I connect it to my 11 lb propane bottle that is mounted to the outside of my camper much like your bean. It has worked flawlessly even at high altitudes (11,000+’)
Great video Drew. I have a few older Coleman stoves, I even have one that will run on unleaded gasoline. Crazy. But really? Do you even care about your stoves? You have a gourmet chef chef at your campsite. Just watching Mae do her magic on the grill makes me wonder… can we cook that outside? Thanks again man. Cheers.
I no longer have my dad's naphtha Coleman stove. It was bomb proof. I do still have his Coleman lantern. It's the old, curvy style. He bought it around 1955. The pump gasket has a little leakage when pumping, but it still works. I tried calling Coleman to get a replacement part and they asked me for the model number stamped into the trim. I quoted it to the guy and he told me I was missing at least a digit, if not two. I sent him a picture with the number stamped clear as day. He said "Damn, that's an old one. It still works?!" He said three digit model numbers pre-date any of their records.
The Everest is great…but, both burners are wide, so the flames are wider than smaller pots. So handles or some of the expanding silicone pots/pans/kettles get too hot. The propane threading is tough to tighten, but I found a little cooking oil will help it slide in easier and grab the threads better.
That is our favorite stove. We carry all the high end brands on our backpacking trips to test out. But the Coleman dual-fuel is always with us as our trusted backup. In terms of durability and cooking in the wind, it is second to none.
I purchased the Eureka Ignite to upgrade our old American Camper stove. Looked at the Camp Chef. Really liked it; however, the size of the Eureka won. Plus I got the stove on sale at a great price (about $80.00). So far, like the Ignite. We also use/have a 17” Blackstone grill. Pros and cons to every cooking system.
$80! Nice. I think the Eureka and the Blackstone would be a great combo to switch between. Like you said sometimes there are differnet stoves for different needs. I find that with many camping items. It really isn't a one size fits all.
One been using a Colman stove that’s I inherited 20 years ago and my dad used it for at least 20 years before that! Recently one of the burners went out and we’ve been really researching for a new durable stove. Thanks for the review 😊
Love hearing comments like this! I can't wait for the day North America decides to take pride in their work and start making products like this again. Glad you enjoyed the review.
I have a 55 yr old Coleman that runs on white gas that works as good as the day it was manufactured, but I use my homemade cast iron skottle more than anything else when camping. I can't wait to see the next video you teased.
We actually purchased the Skottle hoping to prove it was not practical and overpriced. Well, the price tag is awful. I definitely suggest the diy route like you went. But the practicality of it is amazing! Like you it has become our go to cook surface.
I appreciate your video, as I love rving, and camping. I respectfully would like to point out that you're not using the connection for the wind screens on the Coleman stove correctly. I've had my Coleman stove for 29 years, and to properly attach the wind screens, the spring hook mechanism slides into the slot on each side of the stove. They are not intended to hook around the grate. Hopefully this helps some folks. I also have the Coleman grill/stove with the optional griddle, and I love it. Very easy to clean, as I use a piece of aluminum foil under the grill grate. I do however have to fold down the left wind screen for large pans. Take care.
For a person who likes to cook i would say simmer is a key quality. i have had a few venerable Coleman's, none of them could simmer well. The Camp Chef can simmer.i needed a stove during the pandemic and there were no camp chef's available. Out of necessity i got a 3 burrner Standport. A well made bulky tank of a stove. 2 high output burrners and one low output. All burners simmer with decent control valves. Nice stove for cooking if weight is not a factor.
Actually, my tiny $20 single burner Colman Butane-Cartridge Stove has been one of my favorites for some reason. Beside "value" (read cheap), I think because it has zero setup, fits anywhere, stable, and the pot ring is a nice size and shape - in other words it has a very low grief factor. The long "aerosol can looking" Butane is real expensive, but I can buy a lot with the savings - and more stoves for more burners. As with others though, low is not low enough.
Sometimes just he simplest stoves do the best job. We own like a $10 stove I picked up from Walmart in the early 2000s. It has no brand name on it. Just a simple platform that works. No moveable parts. Just does its job. I appreciate the ease of the butane, but not a fan of the price and sometimes the ability to find it nearby.
Great video and comments! I’m going to play with our Coleman to see if I can get the simmer control better, otherwise it’s getting replaced, maybe with the eureka. At first I was looking at the Everest, but I don’t think we need the extra high heat, our issue already is burning stuff. I’ll just carry our jetboil if we need to boil water super fast.
That’s awful. Like I mentioned in the video these companies have a real issue with regulators and just overall quality of stoves. It’s really unfortunate.
Burning issues to me seem easily fixed by using proper pots (not thin camping ones) like Magma, T-fal Ingenio, (Stansport, Stanley?) and/or heat diffuser plate.
This was very helpful, I'm just starting out in this stove cooking world, always campfired cooked or cold cooked. Best part when your wife said " I should know, I married a camper"....lol
I prefer my ordinary coleman propane stove. It's simple to operate and has a strong flame. Also I might suggest you get a propane tree and a couple of low pressure to low pressure hoses. Then you can ditch the smaller 1# bottles.
Great suggestion on the tree. I think we will have to do that. And yes good suggestion on the hoses. We primarily use the hoses. We try to use the 1lb propanes when testing stoves because we know that is what the majority of folks use.
Thanks for the stove info! But, batteries, with solar backup, run my inverter for a NuWave induction cooktop that's immune to crosswinds and cooks faster than a microwave using less than 1/2 the energy! Fires are still good for 'smores'...
I used a small Blackstone and a single burner Eureka Spark+. IMO, if you can, I buy from REI who has a remarkable return policy. Where you buy can be as important as what you get. Nothing is perfect.
I agree with you. I bought an Iwatani (the eco model) with the wider cooking area. I don’t want to have to drag around a big container of fuel, so the small butane bottles are great - just pop one in and it’s a go.
Yes, great stoves. Beings we are from Alaska though they don't make a lot of sense for us to haul around. Very impractical in cold weather. With that said I still only like 3 or 4 different butane stoves and I love them all.
Turn the Everest diagonally on that table. Slide it farthest to the left. Then you'll have a triangle of space on the right. Just "thinking out loud". Not sure if that is viable. 👍
I have a Coleman 2-burner propane stove that I got in the 80s and it has superfine simmer control. The test for me is not boiling water but putting a golden sheen on pancakes. My friend bought a new Camp Chef and it boils like a rocket, but it can't cook pancakes without burning them. The awkward, clunky, loud peizo "electronic" ignition is unreliable at best. Long neck lighters are an easy fix. Then the regulator went out. Can't get it to light. I guess the bottom line for me is the sheer longevity of the classic Coleman 2-burner. It's hard to overstate the reliability inherent in its simple design.
Elevation is key to how long it takes to boil water. I used to backpack in the San Juan Mts when I was your age and I gave up taking a stove altogether as it took forever to boil water. Maybe mention your altitude when you do your boil test. Thanks Drew. Always enjoy your vids.
Yes, very true! I guess I gave it no thought as I was comparing the stoves boil time. I will pin it in the comments. This is one of my favorite sites and I know the elevation by heart. 3,500 feet.
@@PlayingwithSticks Thanks, Drew. I knew what you were doing but wanted to know the elevation as I live at over a mile high. I can now have an idea how long it would take me to boil with each stove. I'm of the "Quicker the better" group as I don't enjoy cooking...but I do enjoy watching you and May cook up some fantastic dishes. Thanks again.
@@JackFalltrades I have always wanted to boil at or below sea level. And then one day I was like? Wait a minute aren't I at the ocean? Haha. Something about Alaska always feels like you are at elevation even when you aren't.
That photo you flash with the Everest flaming shows that the propane bottle is inverted. That position shoots liquid propane through the manifold. It sounds like there's more to the regulation issue, but the image shows the last thing you want to ever do with a propane bottle.
i have a coleman stove with a regulator attachment like that, and it is cumbersome, i which they would design a rubber hose regulator or flex hose, then bend it to clamp the cylinder to the bottom of the table out of the wat in case a kid comes by and knocks the stove off the table. that would be a great safety improvement.
Back in the day we cooked cheesburgers, brats, & chicken over the campfire. Sometimes I brought a Weber grill. It would fit in the trunk of my Impala then my Crown Vic. I never owned a campstove.
Coleman dual fuels are great and you don’t have to worry about running out of fuel like you do on other stoves. Depending on your needs a single, double or even three burner stove (used market) can be used. Gasoline is literally the second most abundant fluid in the US.
Agreed. All we used was a duel fuel Coleman stoves and lanterns for decades. The problem I have with dual fuel appliances now and the reason I have gone to all propane stoves and lanterns is the huge carbon monoxide output of dual fuel appliances even in ideal conditions. Not a problem when all our activity was outside the tent, but my geriatric camping style has become more .... comfort centric involving more protected camping (ie spontaneous napping and forgetting I left something on in a camper that also has heat). Yeah, I think our old gallon can of Colman White Gas lasted years even camping every weekend. Lots of fresh crappies with a crunched-up potato chip coating fried up on that dual fuel Colman!
That photo you showed of the big flames is 100% they have the cylinder upside down (you can see it clearly on the right). So liquid LPG is flowing through the regulatory. It's user error, not a regulator problem
Yes that was a mistake on my part I should’ve looked closer at the picture I posted. But go into the forums and the reviews and all over the Internet you’ll see regulator issues everywhere. Again that was just my fault choosing the first photo I saw.
@@PlayingwithSticks yep. Been reading the forums, looks like the button diaphragm can get knocked out of place, which seems to be the most common cause. Super annoying for a $40 (AUD) part.
It’s a good fit on a regular camp table. However from watching videos and talking to the community, a majority of us use smaller tables than that. If you check out the video we just released this week you can see it in the background. If it’s quite nicely on a regular lifetime table.
There is something to be said for using similar equipment while camping as you do when cooking at home. Removing barriers such as learning to use different types of pots and pans will keep camping simpler and get you out more. Just because the equipment says it's for "camping" is stupid. I don't feed my family using tiny thin pans on my gas stove or gas grill at home, why would I do it just because I'm "in the woods". Nice review on the stoves! Get one that will work with "normal" cooking equipment and you'll have a much better time.
This is a great point that folks, including me, often overlook. You are absolutely right. How much space and weight are you saving by leaving home style pans at home? Probably not that much if we are talking car camping or small travel trailers. I get it for backpacking, but it doesn't always make sense to go minimal when camping. Thank you for sharing.
@@PlayingwithSticks Years ago when I used to go backpacking, I carried a vintage No. 5 Griswold cast iron skillet strapped to my backpack. I took a lot of grief for the extra 2 1/2 lbs. it weighed, from the freeze-dried food/paper-thin cookware crowd who religiously believed every ounce mattered. But come dinnertime they tended to line up to use it after I was done.... 😊
I love your wife, she's so funny...'I should know because I'm married to a camper.' She seems like an amazing mamma and her food always looks delicious!
I'll stay with my Coleman white gas and dual fuel stoves . Propane stoves seem to be made for the 'Almost does the job' class, but actually they're just disposable products not made to last like the older models that are fully, happily getting the job done right Generations after they were manufactured.
Is that a liter of water you're boiling Drew?...can't recall if you said. You can't cook with it but for comparison the electric tea kettle I sometimes use takes just under 4 minutes to boil a liter of H20. Big con of the outdoor kitchen on my trailer is the stove....if it's windy out I tend to break out the wood burning stove or just look for something I can cook in the toaster oven... hahaha. Fold up wind screens marginally help with my trailer stove but are a pain to cook around. The wood burning stove kicks a$$....it will boil TWO liters of water in about 4-5 minutes in the accessory tank (with a fire already stoked up of course) and is great to cook on windy or not... it doesn't care.
Oh man! I am always forgetting things in the edit. Yes, I used 1 liter. Under 4 minutes is great. And your see through version is much more fun to watch than boiling water on a stove. What kind of wood stove are you using? Is it diy?
@@PlayingwithSticks Advantage electric tea kettle - it shuts of automatically when the water comes to a boil. Wood stove is made by Winnerwell - we have the Nomad Medium - they have lots of models and well built. - btw making a video of boiling water and getting people to watch it is quite the trick... hahaha
@@BirdPhish In the UK they all have induction electric tea pots for their efficiency. They don't seem to be as popular here. The total battery power used in 5 minutes is small, though electric heat of any kind usually needs high watts to run. Any idea on watts it needs to run or watts rating stamped on the kettle? All electric heat sources are high, and typically way over 1000 watts (probably closer to 1700 watts), but a teapot just might be a bit lower. Great idea! Thanks! That hot water could be used for other things: washing water (self or dishes) or to preheat pasta water - maybe even for cooking in a insulation bag. Interesting.
@@mikemead2315 Hi Mike! the Mueller tea pot I have runs at 1500 watts. I have a portable induction cooker and like but I never heard of induction tea pots, interesting. I tried running the portable induction cooktop rated at 1500 watts in my trailer but it would not start on the 1750 watt modified sine wave inverter so I guess it need pure sine wave to run it. But using it in the house it is much more efficient than a regular hot plate, makes my coffee in the same amount of time at 600 watts of draw versus the 900 watts for the hot plate, they're just more efficient with very little wasted heat.
@@BirdPhish Yeah. Cant find a stand alone induction tea pot. My bad. Turns out the stand alone tea pots are probably not induction. In hindsight, a stand alone induction tea pot would not be more efficient than a heater inside a tea pot - it just has other possible attributes. The British TV I watch all have electric tea pots that lift off of a mated plugged in stand with a big knob in the middle that I assumed was the induction connection point to the kettle, but probably just a heating and/or centering point. An induction in that case would be a bit safer by not leaving a hot-plate/hot-knob exposed when the pot is removed for serving, but not more efficient.
I have a Coleman 3 burner stove. Not as common as the 2 burner. This is an old stove. I would say easily 40 + years old. I'm in my mid 50's and have used it since my mid teens. I can't even find a photo of this stove. I'll have to take one. It works great and always has. This stove comes with a flexible hose and larger side windshields than your typical modern camp stove.
I have owned the Camp Chef Everest for over 10 years. While it is a great stove, I almost always end up choosing my Prius backpacking stop due size unless I plan to cook for a large group.
Shoot I love my old suitcase style Coleman’s. One is from 1969 which is a 3 burner and the other one is from like 2011 but it’s the old school looking 2 burner. I remember seeing my friends more modern looking, Flatter Coleman stove and it just felt cheap to me. So I’ve stuck with the old school ones.
Great! Hit all my wants: temp control, room for multiple 10-12" pans, stove and pan stability. AND added a couple of wants like easy clean-ability, all metal construction, and storage-ability. One more less measurable is low-grief factor where some bad attribute overwhelms the good, which is more personally subjective. Thanks!
Yep, its funny you can actually get/make small cook trailers. I've seen them done where you have everything, multi-burner stove, oven, heating rack, water heater, pizza oven (not joking), and more built as a stand alone kitchen on a small trailer. Though thats more for people "van camping" using a small van for sleeping in and traveling in... Or again, larger camp situations where you are feeding lots of people. They crop up all the time at the Calgary Stampede.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 Interesting. I have seen "camp-equipment-trailers?" - for lack of a better term. Maybe similar to what you are describing. Basically a smallish rectangular, boxy trailer with fold down prep tables that hiding drawers & storage that holds tents, awnings, stove, propane, generator, etc. Basically, all the camping gear and transforms into kitchen and supplies station. Some also hold a roof-tent on top. Just hook up and go. The idea has appeal.
@@mikemead2315 Look up Field Catering/Field kitchen That will give you the base idea. In its simplest form its a 5x8 trailer with fold down sides and pop up awning. you drop the sides, extend the awning, then you have your full kitchen right there. Stoves, ovens, sinks, fridge, many cases its "full sized" units, allowing for either feeding large groups for a few days, or a small family for weeks.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 Impressive! Those 5x8 enclosed trailers are a real inexpensive teardrop alternative too. The one I was thinking of is like 4x3x2 or 5x4x3 so tiny in comparison.
@@mikemead2315 Essentially, since the van campers don't always have room for a kitchen, or galley. you might sleep 2 in the van, have a tent out for the kids, with the option to bring them into the van for bad weather... and do all the cooking off the trailer.
I'm still using the full size Coleman two burner "white gas" stove I bought at age 15. (I'm 65 now.) The 50 year old stove is backed up by a slightly smaller 40 year old two burner Coleman. Together the two stoves have carried me through multiple South Carolina hurricanes and even two rare blizzards. For backpacking, I use the single burner white gas Coleman. All three are American made and none have ever failed me. It's too bad that modern campers do not know the elegance and reliability of the old stuff.
Slam spot on. Love the ancient Coleman's.
Gas stoves are absurdly simple and the physics haven’t changed in half a century. It’s sad they refuse to make stuff like they used to. I’m watching this video because I need a larger camp stove and I’m probably going with a Coleman because that’s what Dad had and I don’t really plan on using my backpacking cookware for anything but backpacking. Thermal mass is my friend and if I don’t have to lug it on my back I see no reason to restrict myself to thin cookware.
I still have the 3 burner. My 2 burner was stolen so got another coleman 2 burner propane. I broke down and got a stove/oven combo and it works well. I like the stove top ovens too. Have a large & small. They work on woodstoves & a grate over a campfire.
I still have my grandfather’s Coleman stove and lantern, I’m 62.
Both still work well and you can buy parts for them.
Not wanting to hunt down white gas, I also have one of the last
American made dual fuel 2 burner, single burner, and lantern.
All 3 have the ability to run on unleaded gas, and with regular maintenance
will last a lifetime.
Yeah, I've got a couple "white gas" stoves and lanterns and they run just fine on unleaded gasoline. Single mantel lights are the way to go because they burn half as much fuel as the double ones and throw 3/4 as much light. I use propane around the house, but nothing beats the older white gas stoves/lanterns for camping. Less than half the cost of propane to run them too.
I recommend using a square cast iron pan. The thick cast iron is better for temperature regulation, and the square shape sits better on a 2 burner stove and maximises cooking area.
This is a tip nobody has ever shared with me. Thank you!
A couple years ago I found a coleman stove at a yard sale that looked almost new for only $15. It's been working great.
Sweet! Today I got a Coleman 425E from a thrift shop for $7.83. It's oily and scorched so needs a deep clean but so fun to find these things. I have the Coleman he has up in this video bought new in the 90s. It also needs a clean. Way back then it was probably $29 I can't remember. But with inflation that's way more than what you paid. Congrats! 👍
I got my mid 50’s Coleman stove in the early 90’s at an estate sale for $17 in essentially new condition. It has been heavily used in my ownership and still has many years in it. I think that it is easily superior to any modern propane camp stove because of the old school rugged construction, simple maintenance, and in particular, no expensive disposable cylinders that lose pressure when they get cold or are half full.
I got an old coleman needing some maintinence that works well. It was made in the 50's and still works. The old 3 burner stoves are bigger and will fit the 12 inch pans.
Yeah the three burners are so great. They should be more common.
Usually you just see the old two burners
HAVE one of those to.when things were .made to last.have a great day.
We went with the Camp Chef Everest 2X, which fixes most of the concerns you had. I also like the simmer control and raw power that the Everest has. The 2X adds metal latches, better wind guards, and a center mounted piezo that works!
Nice! I really appreciate you sharing this.
@@PlayingwithSticks what do you think about the Primus stoves?
Big fan! The only reason I didn’t put them in the video is that I was trying to focus on propane stoves. I assume Primus makes some sort of propane stove, but I’ve only used their butane.
Inherited a Coleman and used it for years but after 40 + years I gave it to someone who needed one and got a camp Chef. Heads and shoulders above the old tried and true Coleman. Good comparison video Drew.
That is neat to hear. I have often wondered if the earlier generations of Colemans were better than these newer top tier stoves. No longer do I need to wonder. Haha. Thanks for sharing.
I was camping with some buddies and one of them had a Camp Chef that we all used to cook all of our meals. I asked him how long he's had it, expecting him to say like 2 or 3 years and he said he's had it for over 20 years and it still looked almost brand new
I just lost my Colman Liquid Gas Stove I have had since 1966. Destroyed in Hurricane Ida. I have not found a propane stove to equal it. The only maintenance was cleaning and periodic replacement of worn out pumps. Lightning was originally done with wooden matches, later with butane “fireplace” lighters.
That hurts to hear. Those older Coleman's were pretty bomb proof. We keep hoping to get our hands on one. It has been a couple of decades since we have used one.
You can still buy white gas Coleman's. Look for the "Duel Fuel" ones. Basically, white gas and unleaded are the same thing. That's what we started using when we couldn't find any Coleman fuel.
We use a new-ish 2 burner Coleman propane stove. We use it often, and clean it regularly (full disassembly), and frankly, it seems like a flip of a coin whether it will work or not. Don’t matter whether or not the wind is blowing, how cold it is, etc. Sometimes it will burn as hot as we dare on a nice blue flame, and then the next morning we can barely get it to sputter. Then we try again at lunch and it’s roaring like nothing happened.
Yes, we have the tank turned on, yes, we’ve checked the hose and all fittings for leaks. Its disheartening that the Coleman is somehow the best of the bunch because we can’t seem to rely on it to cook our food when we need it to.
The best testimonial for the Coleman stove you demonstrated: The one I bought in about 1990 is still going strong thirty years later, has never needed repairs, and I've never felt any desire to replace it with anything fancier. Given its low price, it's an incredible bargain, and that bargain keeps getting better as the years pass!
I have the same one from the 90s. But I moved a lot for the Army and other life events so it's a little dented on the front edge. But I love it too.
I have the Eureka XL and it’s been amazing. It’s rugged, has adjustable feet which allows it to balance almost anywhere, and cooks well. I’ve used a Coleman in the past and still enjoy using it, but the Eureka is hands down favorite.
I have the XL and while the power is a bit lacking, getting bigger pots/pans on there for huge groups is a game changer! We put on a 12" cast iron pan and a 8Q cast iron pot for soup at the same time. everyone else could fit only one or the other
@@stupidaznmunkey that was one of the features that drew me to the XL. Lots of room. 😀
for those wondering about new coleman white gas or dual-fuel stoves, they are still made in kansas and the quality is as good as the older ones made from the 70's and up. just as heavy-duty and just as reliable. getting harder to find though, most stores only stock propane and butane stoves now.
I have 2 Coleman stoves that are 50 years old and they are great. I love the plow disk.
I really like hearing people with a positive relationship with their gear. I think many of us chase new shiny things, when some of our original gear was the best and should have been kept.
@@PlayingwithSticks check out the coleman dual fuel,it burns white gas or pump gas
We have owned a smaller one for 18 years now. Although it is a little bulky it always goes in my backpack for backpacking trips. Not only is it super reliable, it is been great getting alternate fuel for it in a pinch. Thank you for sharing Jeff.
Piezo igniters are a waste, they all fail surprisingly quickly in my experience. I don’t even consider them a positive feature when selecting a stove. We’ve been using a Camp Chef Everest for car camping since 2013; it’s been used and abused and is still going strong. We need the large size since there are six of us when everyone is along and we have to use decent size cookware. The gas hookup can be finicky, but I have a technique to hook up that works well (how I angle my hand and how much pressure I apply). You are right about the plastic latches, they barely work out of the box and go downhill from there. You didn’t mention that there are screw adjustable feet on the bottom that can allow you to level the stove on an uneven surface. I don’t recall if Coleman or Eureka have them, but I find it very handy.
It's interesting that the Camp Chef Everest switched to plastic clasps. The one I purchased a decade or so ago, before the Mountaineer was available, used a single metal clasp in the front which has held up fine so far. It looks like the Everest 2x now uses a metal clasp on each side. To avoid the issue of having a propane tank weigh down the side I purchased an adapter that lets me use 5 to 20 pound cylinders that rest on the ground. The 5lb tank doesn't take much more space than the disposable 1lb tanks and has the benefit of being refillable.
The photograph you showed of the Camp Chef stove with the high flames, this was caused because the propane cylinder was being used upside down ! The propane vapour is above the liquid, that is what stoves burn. Trying to run the stove with the propane bottle inverted forces liquid propane into the regulator ! This can also ruin the gas regulator. That may explain some of the complaints ? You do a great job on your videos, I know you put a lot of time into them, I appreciate that. I added a metal latch on the lid of my stove, less than $4 from the hardware store, a few pop rivets.
Over the years we’ve went from the Coleman table stove, to the stand up grill/stove to the one burner screw on top simple stove. This weekend we’re using the fire that woods provide for us. We’re empty camp nesters these days so it’s easy. Love your content as always.
PA camping this weekend involves a low of 50 and a high of 79.
Cheers!
Btw, it’s great that you’re out there providing people solid reviews that can assist someone making a decision on getting the right product. I know UA-cam has helped us out over the years in saving our money. ✌🏻
I'm amazed at how expensive they are. Think I'll stick to my 25 year old Coleman three burner with manual lighting. Has never failed to work. I used it at home recently when we had a natural gas outage, and I hardly missed the stove. Also have a Coleman one burner butane that is a joy to use and cost all of $20. Cheapest place to buy the butane is an Asian grocery store. I have lots near me.
Yes, these prices were quite shocking to me as well. Especially, like I mentioned in the video, when they really have not improved in quality over the years.
$270 for the Jetboil Genesis, at that price it better be a perfect stove.
@@stingrayshark9373 Right. I have heard pretty great things about it. But still, ouch, that price hurts.
@@stingrayshark9373 How about the Camp Chef Mountaineer for $390. lol.
Shop smart, shop, H-Mart!
Adding to the Coleman simmer fix link Drew provides...I used brake cleaner to clean my jet thingamabob. I also am married to a veterinarian and they use long wooden handled cotton swabs that simply do not leave lint behind. Those I spritzed with brake cleaner and did the inside of the gas valve body. I'm sure your local vet could supply you with a few. I needed two per knob.
People, it really works, get the factory grease out of there, clean everything and I replaced with a light grease, dielectric silicone grease matter of fact. Not sure how long a silicone spray would last in this application.
Thank you so much for sharing this! Until your comment I honestly didn't know this was a fix for new stoves as well. I had originally stumbled upon this with help from the community in the comments. I was having issues with my simmer. Now I will suggest folks do it on day one!
100% agree with the burners and control on the Everest stove. That's my favorite part of that stove. Modded mine with a proper latch too.
The modified latch sounds just like Mark. Great idea by the way. Fix it before it goes bad. I wish I thought that way. Unfortunately I am the guy that limps around with broken gear much too long before I actually sit down to fix it.
@@PlayingwithSticks Ironically, I took the latch off of an old Coleman. Ha
Just went out camping with a buddy who had his dads old Coleman stove and it blew me away haha better than any newer stove I've ever used.
A little late in viewing but what is amazing is how you still have videos in the can to produce and post.
In the 60s and 70s it was all about aluminum pots and plans and coffee pots even plates. For Backpacking. Burning meals was a constant thing. At a church swap meet at 9yrs old, per the recommendation of my Dad I purchased a stainless mess kit. Cooking spred out a little more of the heat. Still burnt things but I still use it when I go. I still use the pot and the coffee pot. They are as black as charcoal.
I have my mom's stainless from the 50s I use at home and camping. Although I keep trying different pans, those stainless have been consistent performers.
still have all of my aluminum camping pots and pans from the 70's, still use them occasionally.
I’ve used a Coleman stove forever. Not sure what would actually make it stop working. Now with the Bean, I’m using the Partner stove. I’m so used to the lack of simmer control on the Coleman that I don’t even notice issues with the partner stove. Great review!!
We have two Camp Chef stoves. The smaller 2 burner (propane) works great and is easy to transport. The other is the larger 3 burner and that sucker will cook red beans at altitude. We love both of them, the 3 burner larger stove has its on table and is great. Camp Chef to me is top shelf.
I have the Camp Chef Everest. Either the first or second time I used it it flared up big and tall, like you mentioned. Scared the heck out of me! It hasn't done it again but let's say I am aware. What is good about Everest is the high BTU especially at higher altitude which is most of my camping in mountains. Higher altitude slows cooking times so the Everest helps to compensate the loss. Great video! Thanks for your thorough reviews. So helpful!
GOOD UA-cam Channel!!!! For simmer control on Coleman you need to Reclean and LUBE the valves/o rings then you can control the flame to fine point !!!!! ~~~~ I purchased Coleman after extensive research…
Agreed! This made a world of difference with the Coleman for us.
Great information Drew! I still use the Coleman “Propane” stove that I bought in 1986. I have taken it apart and cleaned it in March this year. It is still working very well!
I do like that Everest stove you are using. I always put mine on a park table. I also built a little 2x4 riser for it. So I can keep the bacon warm. I like the tire table too.
We enjoy your videos! Look forward to them! Have a Good Time!
Good idea about a riser.
I have a cheap Coleman I take when I’m in my truck and a Trangia that goes on my bike. They work pretty decent so far. Thank you for the reviews!
That is so neat. I just got into Trangias over here in Asia. They are really fun to use, small, and make a great pocket sized marshmallow /smore stove. I never knew the name until you typed it here. I had to google it.
@@PlayingwithSticks A Trangia gas burner and winter mix canister will work at -15 Celsius Blizzard. A must have even as a backup. I like a 3 burner for family cooking as more room. Cheers Steve from Aus.
Although I don't own one (yet) - no one ever points out that the Jetboil at 10,000 btu heats faster than stoves with 2x the btu which = less than 1/2 the fuel consumption.
The Piezo ignitor can be fixed many times. Piezos sometime just need the spark gap adjust - it is too close or too far - fixed usually by just bending the little end bracket.
The next fix is the piezo is trying to spark to a corroded piece of metal that is no longer conductive - the corrosion needs to be sanded away or the spark end of the piezo needs to be moved.
@@JackFalltrades Yeah! the fixes have helped me out a few times.
Agreed. Those long lighters are great. Mine just died, so I need another pack. However, my brother has fallen in love with his new long-stem, electric, rechargeable arc-lighter. Waiting for a long term report.
Well that is nice to know. I think that is why the majority of new stoves get poor reviews. Which is kind of funny because folks make the stove out to be almost useless without the ignition. I will admit though I have looked at my Mr Buddy Heater as almost useless after my ignition went out. Haha. So I guess I am no different.
Agreed!
Box of matches still works.
@@willjay916 🤣 Yeah! So easy to forget matches!
LOVE my Eureka Ignite plus! Awesome simmer control and love the way it looks and cleans up easily. It gets a ton of use. Got my eyes on a skottle at some point. Thanks for the work!
That Eureka is still our go to stove. We’ve put a lot of hours on it and it’s still going strong.
Great review. Two modifications that can be easily made with most of these stoves would be to have larger control knobs for finer heat adjustments. Also the position of the burners always seem to be to close to the edge. I would suggest shifting both burners approx. 0.5" to 1" closer to the center for more uninform temperature for the two burner griddles that are now so popular without having to purchase a separate Blackstone Grill. The burner placement could be established through some testing by the manufacturer and would still work fine for separate pots or pans.
I've got more camp stoves than I know what to do with, but my favorite is still the Coleman 425. Got it for $20 at a thrift store, and both of my lanterns for $10 each. One of these days, I'll run across a Coleman 533 for a good deal and I'll snap it up.
Right there with 'ya, white gas everything. One of my stoves, the favorite, is a three burner that I've not seen anyone else use. Coffee goes on and still room to cook other things.
@@tonyc.4528 I do like alcohol stoves for backpacking, but white gas for everything else.
There is a video on how to take the Coleman flame control knob out and clean and lubricant. I did what the video showed and now the flame will go where I want.😊
I watched that same video. And yes, it really helped mine as well. I have also found like the video said it helps to do it on brand new Colemans also.
I’ve used my “Duel Fuel” Coleman for 30 years and never a problem. I watched to see if I wanted an “upgrade” but I think I’ll stick with ol’ reliable. Thanks for the review!
Our dual fuel coleman backpacking stove still continues to beat out everything in our kit. Yes, it is quite large in terms of backpacking gear. But it is hard to beat the reliability and the ability to use multiple fuel sources in a pinch.
I use the base camp with half gen and Luna satellite. Few different sized flux pots. Jet boil mini mo for additional help. System is great. Some king camp tables and charbroil grill 2 go x200 your set
That’s something we’re hoping to do this summer. I really like the flexibility of what you’re doing.
Oh yea, I love camping stoves. You could do 100 videos on stoves and I would watch them all! We just got the Camp Chef Mountaineer on sale at REI for $280. Also first haha
What is it about stoves? I have the obsession as well. It started with just smaller stoves. Now I enjoy so many stoves of different styles and sizes. On my hunt for a Mountaineer yesterday or the day before it looks like the stock is very low. Not only did you get a sale. You may have purchased one of the last one's left. Never mind. They are back in stock today!
My family uses a dual burner butane, not propane, stove with the canasters stored internally on either end. Never had problems, works great. And the simplest set up ever. No tank to skew on or hoses to loose. It's basically two singles put together in one package. Kiss.
I myself use the Coleman Triton+ stove. It's worked great for me, and has very good simmer control.
This another Coleman bit huh
@@NITROexpress17 huh?
@@NITROexpress17 oh, if you were asking me if I'm a bot, hell no, it's just what I used and liked it, just brought it up cause the lack of a simmer control was one of the downsides of the coleman in the video.
Actually getting to sell mine now since I upgraded to a Kovea slim
Thanks for this video.
I guess you just need a bigger table. I use a 48" folding table.
I have the Everest 2X and used to have the Rainier 2X. Both have metal latches. Agree with you on plastic latches.
I grew up in a hurricane prone country. About 6 years ago, I sent my family members a few Everest but 3-burners. Still working until today. They are ready if power goes out for long time.
It's not anywhere close to this list but having an induction burner at a powered site is a game changer.
Yeah, a couple of us are looking at induction for its precision and lower waste heat.
A youtuber has even been using an induction as his boondocking stove on his used converted van for a few years now, though he has the solar setup to support it.
Great stuff, as always!
I see others mentioning the Coleman simmer fix… what a game changer!
Thanks for doin what you do!
Thanks Brian! I learned about the simmer fix from the community. But until yesterday I didn't realize it was something we should all be doing when we buy the stove new.
@@PlayingwithSticks right out of the package… works so well it makes you wonder why they don’t do it themselves…lol
Hi Drew, I am a little sad that you did not include another well know brand Primus! I grew up with them and a few years ago upgrated to the Tupike, Yes I know it is a premium version but at 60 I'm worth it..lol ( besides gave my daughter the coleman). I wanted to share one trick I have found with you and hopefully your viewers.. I have also had issues with the simmer on stoves and have been using the "scorch buster" diffuser plate from Outback oven for a number of years ( They sold them separately). This has been a big change and although they are no longer available I have seen similar products on Amazon.
Oh sorry. I didn't premise the video very well. I was highlighting stoves that run off propane. Does primus make a propane stove? I assume they do, but I have never seen one. And yes, we love our little primus backpacking stoves. Very easy to clean/repair in the field and have held up all these years. Great tip on the scorch buster. I have never heard of anything like this. Any chance you can share a link to one of the similar products? I can add that to the description of this video. Thank you!
Scorch Buster! Good one! I've been stacking cooking rings to get the pan further away, but this is a far more elegant and probably safer method. Thanks!
Yeah, Primus was like THEE backpacking stove.
@PlayingwithSticks hey drew, yes the car camping stoves run on propane and come with an adapter to run on isobutane, so actually dual fuel. This is handy as I carry a smaller iso butane canister for my small lantern I use occasionally and it serves as a back up to my 5lb propane tank.
I have the cheap Coleman. The thing is indestructible . A lot better than the Suburban that came with my pop up.
Indestructible is a great way to describe it!
We used the standard Coleman propane for 15 years and love it but with faster boils and adjustability of the flame the Everest comes out on top. If I had to use the Coleman again I would have no problem going back to it. You get used to taking the pan on and off the flame to get even cooking. We have tried the fire disc but its size and the weight kept it out of our gear list. Might have to give the skottle a look if its lightweight.
Matt, you can try out. our Tembo Tusk Skottle at HTCE4 if you'd like. It is the large original version with the Coleman propane single burner. I recently switched the burner to a Kovea for a broader hot spot. It is a bulky, heavy beast, but very versatile.If I were doing it again, I'd look at the smaller tabletop version. I have a Snow Peak Baja Burner that's replacing my 40 year old white gas Coleman 425 you've seen. The Skottle and Baja Burner will both fit in a Snow Peak IGT setup.
Thanks again for more wonderful content, Drew!!
I have 2 Coleman white gas stoves. One old one over 60 years old and a newer white gas one. Then recently ( last 6 years ) a Coleman propane stove.They are for canoe camping or Hurricane power outages. Then I went lighter with the canoe stoves. Switched to a single burner Gas One Duel fuel , Butane or Propane one. They even have a duel fuel double burner. Backpacking it's a Firebox Gen 2 titanium Nano since I hammock camp and downed wood ( twigs and small branches ) are always available. Also included is a titanium Evernew alcohol burner which fits inside the Nano as a secondary heat source. Can't say which I like the best since each has it's own niche and use.
Bought a camp chef over 10 years ago and it's still amazing
I boought a single burner Coleman butane stove for when the power goes out. We live in the country and it happens lol. I love love love it. My dad has 50yr old Coleman 2 burner stove and it is amazing
Great reviews!...I still have my Coleman stove that my dad purchased for me back in 1976 during Indian Guides. Still works like new.
You are about the 30th person to comment about their older coleman. It seems like newer isn't better in this review.
I have a single burner camp stove called “American”-something. I got it back in the 90’s. That little stove can boil water so much faster than my coleman 2 burner. To use of for simmering, I just put the pot on top of a cast iron griddle, or maybe a diffuser that I have for making fancy coffee - two things I already have. Best of all, since I bought it in the 90’s, it only cost me a few bucks at the time…. If it’s just me I bring the single burner. If it’s me and my hubby for several days, I’ll add the Coleman 2 burner.
Love hearing this. We have a similar no name one burner stove that we love. I haven’t carried it around in a while, just due to testing stoves. But it has never let me down. It was a very inexpensive Walmart purchase back in the day.
@@PlayingwithSticks I think my one was a K-mart purchase. That should date it. 😂. I’ll say that none of mine have an igniter. All of them require a match or lighter. Never bothered me to do it that way. For years my home stove tops and oven was match lit.
With regards to your comment about daisy chaining a 3rd burner, we always carry a small white gas backpacking stove as well as our propane one.
This 2nd stove not only provides a 3rd burner if needed but saved our butts when our main stove died on a trip. Not only does it provide stove redundancy but also an alternative fuel option.
Just my own experience. Cheers!
Said they had a bad reggie but the propane tank was *upside down.* You're supposed to run this one tank slanted, this isn't heckin' winter condition.
I've also got this stove and I've never had flare-ups when running a 20lb adapter.
I just randomly picked one of many photos I didn’t even notice the upside down regulator. There is reviews all over online of the regulator issue. Like you we’ve had no issues with ours and we’ve used it for two seasons. Intermittently but in many different situations.
I like it but it is $450.00 CAD compared to Coleman 3 in 1 Cascade at $220.00
Found a Colman 2 burner stove at a thrift shop for 15 dollar's made in 1965 works just fine.
We are still using a Camp Chef Everest from 15ish years ago. Old enough that they have changed part numbers and a took a while to find the proper ignitor when one of ours finally failed this year. I wish there was a way to take it as low as possible without shutting off (I think the new Blackstone griddle finally solves that). But. It has been a great stove. Bought a Coleman single burner a few years back for a solo car trip, its heat control was so poor that it ruined the cookware I brought on that trip, and it ended up in the trash. Handles good in the wind and the cold. Thought about replacing it when the ignitor failed, but its just been such a great stove that I fixed it. Will note that our latch is metal, not plastic. The newer ones don't seem quite as well built as the old ones (shocker!)
Thank you for the video, I think I am going to go with a Coleman, don't know the specs but it's at my local wholesale club & I can afford it. But the ones you show here will be in future... that is if they still stand the test of time.
I think you are making a great choice. A Coleman stove paired with some second hand home pots and pans from a thrift store is a great route to go. Like I mentioned if you keep the backpacking/camping cook items away from the Coleman it is a GREAT stove.
Summer on my Everest xl is good. It does go out from time to time but I’d say that’s user error, could happen on any grill stove if turned to low.
My dad and I went camping alot back in the 80s. He had everything you could think of back then. But someone started removing things from his trailer. Pots, pans, silverware, grills and everything else. I miss camping with my dad.
You are reminding me of my camping days with my grandpa. I can completely relate. When I was overseas my family split up his possessions after my Grandmother passed away. I was hoping to just get a piece or two from his camping kit, but unfortunately I missed out. I regret not getting back home for that moment.
@Playing with Sticks when my dad passed. I didn't get anything from his camping trailer. Cause alot of stuff was stolen. But I did get a brand new 6 man tent still in the box, 2 cots still in the box and a pair of binoculars still in the box. But they are from a couple of years ago. Not back from the 80s.
@@stolnpckup Sorry to hear about the thieves. Nothing worse than someone taking what others worked hard for. But, glad to hear you got something, even if it wasn't a nostalgia piece from the 80s. Thanks for sharing. You brought some good memories to mind for me today.
Bit late to the party here but I’m also in the Everest 2X camp. It has metal clasps to lock the lid, very effective wind blocking panels and amazing power either way fine simmer control. I’ve been using mine almost every day for the last 2.5 years full timing in my teardrop. I connect it to my 11 lb propane bottle that is mounted to the outside of my camper much like your bean. It has worked flawlessly even at high altitudes (11,000+’)
Love hearing this. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience.
Incredibly underrated channel
Great video Drew. I have a few older Coleman stoves, I even have one that will run on unleaded gasoline. Crazy. But really? Do you even care about your stoves? You have a gourmet chef chef at your campsite. Just watching Mae do her magic on the grill makes me wonder… can we cook that outside? Thanks again man. Cheers.
I no longer have my dad's naphtha Coleman stove. It was bomb proof. I do still have his Coleman lantern. It's the old, curvy style. He bought it around 1955. The pump gasket has a little leakage when pumping, but it still works. I tried calling Coleman to get a replacement part and they asked me for the model number stamped into the trim. I quoted it to the guy and he told me I was missing at least a digit, if not two. I sent him a picture with the number stamped clear as day. He said "Damn, that's an old one. It still works?!" He said three digit model numbers pre-date any of their records.
The Everest is great…but, both burners are wide, so the flames are wider than smaller pots. So handles or some of the expanding silicone pots/pans/kettles get too hot. The propane threading is tough to tighten, but I found a little cooking oil will help it slide in easier and grab the threads better.
I used a single burner Coleman power back stove with Ian, it worked beautifully.
That is our favorite stove. We carry all the high end brands on our backpacking trips to test out. But the Coleman dual-fuel is always with us as our trusted backup. In terms of durability and cooking in the wind, it is second to none.
I purchased the Eureka Ignite to upgrade our old American Camper stove. Looked at the Camp Chef. Really liked it; however, the size of the Eureka won. Plus I got the stove on sale at a great price (about $80.00). So far, like the Ignite. We also use/have a 17” Blackstone grill. Pros and cons to every cooking system.
$80! Nice. I think the Eureka and the Blackstone would be a great combo to switch between. Like you said sometimes there are differnet stoves for different needs. I find that with many camping items. It really isn't a one size fits all.
One been using a Colman stove that’s I inherited 20 years ago and my dad used it for at least 20 years before that! Recently one of the burners went out and we’ve been really researching for a new durable stove. Thanks for the review 😊
Love hearing comments like this! I can't wait for the day North America decides to take pride in their work and start making products like this again. Glad you enjoyed the review.
@David Bourgeois Thanks David, I’ll give it a try.
I like my stainless steel Coleman propane stove..
Works perfect for 7 years 👌 No problems
Eureka! and JetBoil stoves are hand-downs the best right now. They silently created the best performing and quality stove out there.
I have a 55 yr old Coleman that runs on white gas that works as good as the day it was manufactured, but I use my homemade cast iron skottle more than anything else when camping. I can't wait to see the next video you teased.
Yeah. My white gas Colman is the one I grew up with and used for years.
I am starting to like those Skottles more and more.
We actually purchased the Skottle hoping to prove it was not practical and overpriced. Well, the price tag is awful. I definitely suggest the diy route like you went. But the practicality of it is amazing! Like you it has become our go to cook surface.
I appreciate your video, as I love rving, and camping. I respectfully would like to point out that you're not using the connection for the wind screens on the Coleman stove correctly. I've had my Coleman stove for 29 years, and to properly attach the wind screens, the spring hook mechanism slides into the slot on each side of the stove. They are not intended to hook around the grate. Hopefully this helps some folks. I also have the Coleman grill/stove with the optional griddle, and I love it. Very easy to clean, as I use a piece of aluminum foil under the grill grate. I do however have to fold down the left wind screen for large pans. Take care.
For a person who likes to cook i would say simmer is a key quality. i have had a few venerable Coleman's, none of them could simmer well. The Camp Chef can simmer.i needed a stove during the pandemic and there were no camp chef's available. Out of necessity i got a 3 burrner Standport. A well made bulky tank of a stove. 2 high output burrners and one low output. All burners simmer with decent control valves. Nice stove for cooking if weight is not a factor.
Actually, my tiny $20 single burner Colman Butane-Cartridge Stove has been one of my favorites for some reason. Beside "value" (read cheap), I think because it has zero setup, fits anywhere, stable, and the pot ring is a nice size and shape - in other words it has a very low grief factor.
The long "aerosol can looking" Butane is real expensive, but I can buy a lot with the savings - and more stoves for more burners. As with others though, low is not low enough.
Sometimes just he simplest stoves do the best job. We own like a $10 stove I picked up from Walmart in the early 2000s. It has no brand name on it. Just a simple platform that works. No moveable parts. Just does its job. I appreciate the ease of the butane, but not a fan of the price and sometimes the ability to find it nearby.
Great video and comments! I’m going to play with our Coleman to see if I can get the simmer control better, otherwise it’s getting replaced, maybe with the eureka. At first I was looking at the Everest, but I don’t think we need the extra high heat, our issue already is burning stuff. I’ll just carry our jetboil if we need to boil water super fast.
I had, and returned the Eureka because it would not stay lit. Not even trying to simmer, just normal cooking, if someone walked by it would go out.
That’s awful. Like I mentioned in the video these companies have a real issue with regulators and just overall quality of stoves. It’s really unfortunate.
Burning issues to me seem easily fixed by using proper pots (not thin camping ones) like Magma, T-fal Ingenio, (Stansport, Stanley?) and/or heat diffuser plate.
Which all come with removeable handles for compact nesting. Stainless steel.👍
This was very helpful, I'm just starting out in this stove cooking world, always campfired cooked or cold cooked.
Best part when your wife said " I should know, I married a camper"....lol
I prefer my ordinary coleman propane stove. It's simple to operate and has a strong flame. Also I might suggest you get a propane tree and a couple of low pressure to low pressure hoses. Then you can ditch the smaller 1# bottles.
Great suggestion on the tree. I think we will have to do that. And yes good suggestion on the hoses. We primarily use the hoses. We try to use the 1lb propanes when testing stoves because we know that is what the majority of folks use.
Thanks for the stove info! But, batteries, with solar backup, run my inverter for a NuWave induction cooktop that's immune to crosswinds and cooks faster than a microwave using less than 1/2 the energy! Fires are still good for 'smores'...
I used a small Blackstone and a single burner Eureka Spark+. IMO, if you can, I buy from REI who has a remarkable return policy. Where you buy can be as important as what you get. Nothing is perfect.
Wish you would put out a video on the portable butane stoves.
They are small, lightweight, and your not lugging the awkward 1lb. Propane bottles.
I agree with you. I bought an Iwatani (the eco model) with the wider cooking area. I don’t want to have to drag around a big container of fuel, so the small butane bottles are great - just pop one in and it’s a go.
Yes, great stoves. Beings we are from Alaska though they don't make a lot of sense for us to haul around. Very impractical in cold weather. With that said I still only like 3 or 4 different butane stoves and I love them all.
Turn the Everest diagonally on that table. Slide it farthest to the left. Then you'll have a triangle of space on the right. Just "thinking out loud". Not sure if that is viable. 👍
I have a Coleman 2-burner propane stove that I got in the 80s and it has superfine simmer control. The test for me is not boiling water but putting a golden sheen on pancakes.
My friend bought a new Camp Chef and it boils like a rocket, but it can't cook pancakes without burning them. The awkward, clunky, loud peizo "electronic" ignition is unreliable at best. Long neck lighters are an easy fix. Then the regulator went out. Can't get it to light.
I guess the bottom line for me is the sheer longevity of the classic Coleman 2-burner. It's hard to overstate the reliability inherent in its simple design.
Agreed! A pancake is a great test for a stove. And the longevity it’s hard to put a price on that.
Elevation is key to how long it takes to boil water. I used to backpack in the San Juan Mts when I was your age and I gave up taking a stove altogether as it took forever to boil water. Maybe mention your altitude when you do your boil test. Thanks Drew. Always enjoy your vids.
Yes, very true! I guess I gave it no thought as I was comparing the stoves boil time. I will pin it in the comments. This is one of my favorite sites and I know the elevation by heart. 3,500 feet.
@@PlayingwithSticks Thanks, Drew. I knew what you were doing but wanted to know the elevation as I live at over a mile high. I can now have an idea how long it would take me to boil with each stove. I'm of the "Quicker the better" group as I don't enjoy cooking...but I do enjoy watching you and May cook up some fantastic dishes. Thanks again.
@@jefflunt9615 Oh sorry, hope I didn't come across as negative in my response. That wasn't my intention. Glad the elevation info helped.
@@PlayingwithSticks Not at all. I hope you have a wonderful everning.
@@JackFalltrades I have always wanted to boil at or below sea level. And then one day I was like? Wait a minute aren't I at the ocean? Haha. Something about Alaska always feels like you are at elevation even when you aren't.
Those little wires that hold the wind guard on the Coleman go into the little holes on the sides, BTW.
Haha. Love it! I have been using that stove extensively for years and never knew they existed until somebody pointed it out in a video.
That photo you flash with the Everest flaming shows that the propane bottle is inverted. That position shoots liquid propane through the manifold. It sounds like there's more to the regulation issue, but the image shows the last thing you want to ever do with a propane bottle.
I should have been more selective with my photo choice. I just grabbed the first one I saw off the internet. Thank you for pointing that out.
i have a coleman stove with a regulator attachment like that, and it is cumbersome, i which they would design a rubber hose regulator or flex hose, then bend it to clamp the cylinder to the bottom of the table out of the wat in case a kid comes by and knocks the stove off the table. that would be a great safety improvement.
Back in the day we cooked cheesburgers, brats, & chicken over the campfire. Sometimes I brought a Weber grill. It would fit in the trunk of my Impala then my Crown Vic. I never owned a campstove.
Coleman dual fuels are great and you don’t have to worry about running out of fuel like you do on other stoves. Depending on your needs a single, double or even three burner stove (used market) can be used. Gasoline is literally the second most abundant fluid in the US.
Agreed. All we used was a duel fuel Coleman stoves and lanterns for decades.
The problem I have with dual fuel appliances now and the reason I have gone to all propane stoves and lanterns is the huge carbon monoxide output of dual fuel appliances even in ideal conditions. Not a problem when all our activity was outside the tent, but my geriatric camping style has become more .... comfort centric involving more protected camping (ie spontaneous napping and forgetting I left something on in a camper that also has heat).
Yeah, I think our old gallon can of Colman White Gas lasted years even camping every weekend. Lots of fresh crappies with a crunched-up potato chip coating fried up on that dual fuel Colman!
I also use cast iron which makes camp cooking perfect
Still got my coleman white gas stove. Pump and go! If it ain't broke.... (and it never will)
Love hearing this!
I recently bought a gas one stove that is dual fuel both propane and butane. Butane is nice and easy but propane is more available.
That photo you showed of the big flames is 100% they have the cylinder upside down (you can see it clearly on the right). So liquid LPG is flowing through the regulatory. It's user error, not a regulator problem
Yes that was a mistake on my part I should’ve looked closer at the picture I posted. But go into the forums and the reviews and all over the Internet you’ll see regulator issues everywhere. Again that was just my fault choosing the first photo I saw.
@@PlayingwithSticks yep. Been reading the forums, looks like the button diaphragm can get knocked out of place, which seems to be the most common cause. Super annoying for a $40 (AUD) part.
That is interesting. I just can’t get over the fact that it’s 2022 and they can’t get this right.
@@PlayingwithSticks building to a cost. They can get it right but it cost more.
I like my Camp chef 2 Burner 30K BTU burner output it is a bit bigger but I have a perfect spot for it! Or even my flattop griddle.
I wonder if the first Camp Chef was on a regular camp table on not on a tv tray size how the fit would be?
It’s a good fit on a regular camp table. However from watching videos and talking to the community, a majority of us use smaller tables than that. If you check out the video we just released this week you can see it in the background. If it’s quite nicely on a regular lifetime table.
There is something to be said for using similar equipment while camping as you do when cooking at home. Removing barriers such as learning to use different types of pots and pans will keep camping simpler and get you out more. Just because the equipment says it's for "camping" is stupid. I don't feed my family using tiny thin pans on my gas stove or gas grill at home, why would I do it just because I'm "in the woods". Nice review on the stoves! Get one that will work with "normal" cooking equipment and you'll have a much better time.
This is a great point that folks, including me, often overlook. You are absolutely right. How much space and weight are you saving by leaving home style pans at home? Probably not that much if we are talking car camping or small travel trailers. I get it for backpacking, but it doesn't always make sense to go minimal when camping. Thank you for sharing.
@@PlayingwithSticks Years ago when I used to go backpacking, I carried a vintage No. 5 Griswold cast iron skillet strapped to my backpack. I took a lot of grief for the extra 2 1/2 lbs. it weighed, from the freeze-dried food/paper-thin cookware crowd who religiously believed every ounce mattered. But come dinnertime they tended to line up to use it after I was done.... 😊
I love your wife, she's so funny...'I should know because I'm married to a camper.' She seems like an amazing mamma and her food always looks delicious!
I'll stay with my Coleman white gas and dual fuel stoves . Propane stoves seem to be made for the 'Almost does the job' class, but actually they're just disposable products not made to last like the older models that are fully, happily getting the job done right Generations after they were manufactured.
Is that a liter of water you're boiling Drew?...can't recall if you said. You can't cook with it but for comparison the electric tea kettle I sometimes use takes just under 4 minutes to boil a liter of H20. Big con of the outdoor kitchen on my trailer is the stove....if it's windy out I tend to break out the wood burning stove or just look for something I can cook in the toaster oven... hahaha. Fold up wind screens marginally help with my trailer stove but are a pain to cook around. The wood burning stove kicks a$$....it will boil TWO liters of water in about 4-5 minutes in the accessory tank (with a fire already stoked up of course) and is great to cook on windy or not... it doesn't care.
Oh man! I am always forgetting things in the edit. Yes, I used 1 liter. Under 4 minutes is great. And your see through version is much more fun to watch than boiling water on a stove. What kind of wood stove are you using? Is it diy?
@@PlayingwithSticks Advantage electric tea kettle - it shuts of automatically when the water comes to a boil. Wood stove is made by Winnerwell - we have the Nomad Medium - they have lots of models and well built. - btw making a video of boiling water and getting people to watch it is quite the trick... hahaha
@@BirdPhish In the UK they all have induction electric tea pots for their efficiency. They don't seem to be as popular here. The total battery power used in 5 minutes is small, though electric heat of any kind usually needs high watts to run. Any idea on watts it needs to run or watts rating stamped on the kettle? All electric heat sources are high, and typically way over 1000 watts (probably closer to 1700 watts), but a teapot just might be a bit lower.
Great idea! Thanks! That hot water could be used for other things: washing water (self or dishes) or to preheat pasta water - maybe even for cooking in a insulation bag. Interesting.
@@mikemead2315 Hi Mike! the Mueller tea pot I have runs at 1500 watts. I have a portable induction cooker and like but I never heard of induction tea pots, interesting. I tried running the portable induction cooktop rated at 1500 watts in my trailer but it would not start on the 1750 watt modified sine wave inverter so I guess it need pure sine wave to run it. But using it in the house it is much more efficient than a regular hot plate, makes my coffee in the same amount of time at 600 watts of draw versus the 900 watts for the hot plate, they're just more efficient with very little wasted heat.
@@BirdPhish Yeah. Cant find a stand alone induction tea pot. My bad. Turns out the stand alone tea pots are probably not induction. In hindsight, a stand alone induction tea pot would not be more efficient than a heater inside a tea pot - it just has other possible attributes.
The British TV I watch all have electric tea pots that lift off of a mated plugged in stand with a big knob in the middle that I assumed was the induction connection point to the kettle, but probably just a heating and/or centering point.
An induction in that case would be a bit safer by not leaving a hot-plate/hot-knob exposed when the pot is removed for serving, but not more efficient.
I have a Coleman 3 burner stove. Not as common as the 2 burner. This is an old stove. I would say easily 40 + years old. I'm in my mid 50's and have used it since my mid teens. I can't even find a photo of this stove. I'll have to take one. It works great and always has. This stove comes with a flexible hose and larger side windshields than your typical modern camp stove.
Camping season is coming, showing more camping cooking videos please :) 😊
We have never really done the camp cooking videos. We really should give it a try. Thank you for the suggestion.
Check out the channel AmandaOutside. She has a ton of camp cooking videos.
Yes, great channel!
I have owned the Camp Chef Everest for over 10 years. While it is a great stove, I almost always end up choosing my Prius backpacking stop due size unless I plan to cook for a large group.
Shoot I love my old suitcase style Coleman’s. One is from 1969 which is a 3 burner and the other one is from like 2011 but it’s the old school looking 2 burner. I remember seeing my friends more modern looking,
Flatter Coleman stove and it just felt cheap to me. So I’ve stuck with the old school ones.
I think there’s a lot of people on here that feel the same way as you. Thank you for sharing.
Can’t beat the Coleman Dual Fuels.
Made in the U.S.A. and very durable.
We have had multiple people leave the same comment. That says a lot about the dual fuel stove.
Great! Hit all my wants: temp control, room for multiple 10-12" pans, stove and pan stability.
AND added a couple of wants like easy clean-ability, all metal construction, and storage-ability.
One more less measurable is low-grief factor where some bad attribute overwhelms the good, which is more personally subjective.
Thanks!
Yep, its funny you can actually get/make small cook trailers. I've seen them done where you have everything, multi-burner stove, oven, heating rack, water heater, pizza oven (not joking), and more built as a stand alone kitchen on a small trailer. Though thats more for people "van camping" using a small van for sleeping in and traveling in...
Or again, larger camp situations where you are feeding lots of people. They crop up all the time at the Calgary Stampede.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 Interesting. I have seen "camp-equipment-trailers?" - for lack of a better term. Maybe similar to what you are describing.
Basically a smallish rectangular, boxy trailer with fold down prep tables that hiding drawers & storage that holds tents, awnings, stove, propane, generator, etc. Basically, all the camping gear and transforms into kitchen and supplies station. Some also hold a roof-tent on top. Just hook up and go.
The idea has appeal.
@@mikemead2315 Look up Field Catering/Field kitchen
That will give you the base idea. In its simplest form its a 5x8 trailer with fold down sides and pop up awning. you drop the sides, extend the awning, then you have your full kitchen right there. Stoves, ovens, sinks, fridge, many cases its "full sized" units, allowing for either feeding large groups for a few days, or a small family for weeks.
@@jenniferstewarts4851 Impressive!
Those 5x8 enclosed trailers are a real inexpensive teardrop alternative too.
The one I was thinking of is like 4x3x2 or 5x4x3 so tiny in comparison.
@@mikemead2315 Essentially, since the van campers don't always have room for a kitchen, or galley. you might sleep 2 in the van, have a tent out for the kids, with the option to bring them into the van for bad weather... and do all the cooking off the trailer.