Please review this build. I put this together yesterday after researching for 5 months for my first ever PC CPU - Ryzen 5 3600x(non x is never in stock)(will OC to 4.2 ghz) GPU - 3070 or 6900XT(whichever is in stock) MOBO- MSI B550 A Pro CPU Cooler - Deepcool gammax L240 V2 rgb RAM - Adata XPG D50 16gb(8*2), 3200mhz(will OC a bit to 3444) PSU - Antec HCG 750 watts 80 plus bronze SSD - Samsung 860 Evo Sata 500gb HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2tb 7200rpm Cabinet - Deepcool Matrexx 55 Mesh ADD RGB 4 fans included Mouse - Logitech G402 Keyboard - Razor Huntsman Tournament edition(expensive but I got it in a gift) Monitor - Viewsonic C - mhd 24 inch 1080p curved monitor(It's 1500r I believe)(I already have a 4k 60hz 65 inch Qled so I can connect it to that if I want low refresh rate and high quality but I won't be doing that often)
If I don't plan for over clock for 3700x, (running at only base clock), is economic to get spending money on best VRM mother board at high price, Or stick to basic mother board at cheap price??? Which is best for non over clock ??
Electrical engineer here: You plug the power cable to the wall so little electrons can travel to your cpu and work inside. AC electrons go all over the place they are kinda overqualified for PC work, but DC ones I heard they are the kind of people that don't like changes. Battery and capacitors are some kind of hotel for them, doublers are cloning device used to reduce cost, but the efficiency of this device is low. MOSFETS are factories, if you have less of them it gets kinda of crammed and hot for electrons, that's why you need heatsink to keep them cool otherwise they will protest by setting fire in factory and work is over. Currency used to pay workers is Watt. Hope this helps.
Weird that the Aorus pro performs better than the Mortar while the elite is clearly behind... May be it's the 4 layer pcb ? anyway I bought it a week ago based on Gamers Nexus's video and now realize I got scammed.... DANM
@@Sul_Shadw Ohh right, with you now. Yes, I have the answer for that one, it will be explained in the next part, basically they have the same VRM components but the 'Pro' design is much better.
I do hope that once you've finished all your VRM testing on these boards, you'll give us a sort of "Here's my recommendations for such and such caragoty" video, going over best budget, all arounder, best period and such. Really wanting to get a good idea on which board to go with for my build.
Machistmo Unify is heralded as the best overall OCing board from features and vrm sub $300 even beating some significant competition beyond $300. Motherboard wise they’ve hit the nail on the head after the disaster of the early sub $300 boards.
@@Machistmo this kid had a bad MSI board once and called them ass lmao. My B550 Gaming Plus has been excellent. It handles a 4.3GHZ OC @1.35V on my Ryzen 5 3600 very well. I am glad I went with this for 30 dollars less than the B550 F-Gaming from Asus
@@enderholten Yeah. MSI Gaming X products are great. Read my theory again and see if you missed something. Watch the video to be sure. The video features a Gigabyte... Gigabyte Gaming X product which is trash, not MSI. Your 2060 Super is an MSI card, isn't it? Check the box. I think Gigabyte is intentionally naming their low-end products with the name MSI puts on their really good stuff! Why would they do that? Well it obviously worked on you if you don't know which of them made your graphics card! Floob has a bad experience with a product that says "Gaming X." Floob never buys Gaming X again. RIP MSI and their awesome Gaming X products like your graphics card. Do you see now? Oh forget it. FML. The surprisingly large number of people who liked my comment probably see the logic there, even if you don't. Your confusion is their confirmation, or at least worth a laugh.
I took a chance on the B550M Mortar Wifi on release before many major reviews because it was available in my country and had a lot of the features I wanted, so I'm glad it performs well and I didn't get screwed by jumping the gun.
I was really concerned about my choice going for the MSI B550 Gaming Plus but it seems like i hit the nail on the head, given my needs (SPDIF Output for Audio is non-negotiable) system configuration and budget, it's simply the best board that suits my need, THANK YOU for posting this cause i was really worried about the VRM performance on it. I can't wait to build my system, going all AMD as i plan on running Linux, so, i expect it to be quite the smooth experience. Cheers mate, really appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos.
Lot of work, i´m always impressed with the density of info on each video. Great stuff, think in no time this video will sky rocket as well as the other b550 videos. ZEN3 can´t come soon enough.
In the summary he says, you really can't go wrong with: MSI B550-A Pro Asrock B550M Steel Legend Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus MSI B550 Gaming Plus MSI B550M Mortar
Thank you for all the work you put into this. I currently built my 2nd computer after my first build 9yrs ago. I have that b550 mortars from msi, this made me feel even better about my build. Keep up the hard work.
A revisit for me. In late 2022 I bought two Gigabyte Gaming X (V2) boards for a very good Black Friday price, and I run them on average 3.5 hours a week, one with a 5700X and one with a 5600X. Both are very simple systems running 32GB of 3200 CL16 or 3600 CL 18 RAM. Neither has ever presented a VRM heat issue. I don't overclock and obviously had no plans to when I decided on this motherboard.
It seems that my choice has narrowed to the Mortar and the TUF. Thermals are really important for me since I live in a tropical country, where daytime/ambient temps are mid to high 30s year-round.
WOW! I recently bought more or less randomly the B550M Mortar, it was almost the cheapest B550 board here in Hungary, and the 2 reasons why I picked it over the cheapest are the 4 years of flawless service of the MSI A320M Pro VD Plus, and the front USB Type-C connector. Good to know it is a quality board! 😀👍
Thanks, this is very useful content. I have that Asus B550M Tuf board, mostly because it was one of the few boards which was available here, and I picked it more for the features than the possibility to overclock - but it's nice to see that I can realistically upgrade the CPU to a higher power one in the future.
@@Red.exe7 Brother, some people play new games just fine on almost 10-year-old motherboards (like all the LGA 115X series, like Z97 etc) and just slap in beefier GPUs. A lot of CPUs have aged pretty decently. Of course a good AM4 board is still good today. The 5600 and 5600X are some of the best CPU value on the market still (especially if you get them used). Of course you've got DDR5 now, but it's hardly in any way, shape or form necessary over DDR4. The only consideration you really have to make is if you're planning to upgrade again shortly, in which case you might as well just opt for an AM5 board instead.
This is FANTASTIC content. So informative - perfect for someone looking to learn more about mobos and find out which is worth buying. Keep up the good work!
thanks mate !!! I got the Asus Tuf here for a fair price and its nice to know i can upgrade down the line without any worries.. really appreciate what you do here!
So happy to subscribe to real experts channel. Regret I haven't done it before. You do a great job. Bought Ryzen 3700X + b450 tomahawk. 2 intake fans in front, 1 intake fan in top, 1 outtake fan at the back. No overclocking. No issues so far.
Hey Steve! I just saw you got over 500k subs, and i remember me saying when you were at 100k that you'll get over 500k in no time. Glad it happened. Best regards and may you continue to 1mil.
Great review, MSI B550M Mortar is such a mini beast! Hoping to see Asus ROG Strix B550-F and B550-E tested soon. Seeing the poor performance from B550-A makes me skeptical about those two. Thanks for these informative videos. 🙂
Decided to preemptively purchase the MSI B550 Gaming Plus as with a promotion it effectively cost me around $190. Was nervous going into this video, but now I feel justified in my purchase. Thanks Steve!
I'm a month late, but I can attest to the TUF B550 being incredible. It gave me similar overclocks to my previous X570 prime and ran a bit cooler. One feature it has that other boards at it's price point does not is a Thunderbolt 3 header for an option card, so while the built in IO is lacking, this makes up for it for anyone who has devices that utilize thunderbolt like me.
Thank you for the video and If I may suggest, maybe for some next video, it will be a good idea to compare b550 with x570 that are on the same price range
Thanks Steve. I guess I made the right call buying the MSI B550 Gaming Plus even when there were hardly any reviews last month. I had all my parts ordered, but the B450 boards I wanted were out of stock for many online stores five weeks ago. I bought the MSI Gaming Plus because it was one of a few boards that were available within $30 of the price of B450 boards I planned to buy.
I chose the B550M Mortar WiFi for my build. At stock settings my 3900xt scores CPUMark 34433 (average of 11 tests, global average 33022 for 3900xt), with a single core score of 2934 (average of 6 tests, global average 2804 for 3900xt). All board temperatures below 50 degrees centigrade with one 120mm exhaust fan. It is memory fussy, follow the certified vendor list. Thanks for this review which helped me. Bluetooth is also included as part of the WiFi implementation on this board. The supplied 'rabbit ear' antennas are not very high quality.
Many people noticed that Steve accidentally says Aorus Pro instead of Aorus Elite in the intro, but the biggest error in this video is at 14:03 when Steve adds the Part 1 boards into the graphs: the B550*M* Aorus Elite is missing! (There should be 7 purple bars, not 6.) Despite the similar names, the B550 Aorus Elite and B550*M* Aorus Elite are very different boards. In this video, the B550*M* is only mentioned once when Steve concludes it is disappointing at 15:41; don't confuse this with the B550 (no M) Aorus Elite reviewed in this video which is one of the half a dozen Part 2 boards that Steve says "delivers excellent results"!
Wish I'd discovered this before I ended up getting a B550 Gaming X V2 alongside a 5900X... still not arrived yet but now not feeling too great about it!
It's not just about temperatures. It's also about efficiency and curve smoothness. Here it is better to have less phases at higher switching frequencies. If you have too many phases, they will simply be inactive most of the time. This is why the new B550 Tomahawk is so good with just 5 phases, which switch at 600 kHz instead of 400 kHz.
@@seanbrennan5469 Yup. I was in Australia in August, and it was cold and rainy. Even ran the air conditioner for heating the hotel room, which I didn't expect to need - being from Norway and all. When the weather cleared up, we went on some nice walks.
Woohoo for MSI B550M Mortar. I bought this B550M Mortar Wifi this summer not knowing it would be a VRM champ, I got it for its silver/white aesthetics. So coupling this board with a Ryzen 5 3600 and Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 all-in-one, the CPU socket temp stay at a comfortable 27°C, CPU core 31°C idle
Great video! I'm assembling a new PC in 2-3 weeks and my current parts list included the Asrock b550M Pro4. Now swapping it with MSI B550-A Pro. Dodged that bullet.... On a different note, the power delivery of B550 boards seem seriously upgraded across the board. Makes me wonder if that's not a response to Zen 3 specs provided to board manufacturers. Higher operating frequencies maybe?
It's worth mentioning that on a lot of these b550 boards the second m.2 and sata 5-6 share lanes. So if you install 2 m.2 ssd-s you typically would not get 6 sata ports, just 4, even if the boards physically have 6 ports. Which is super disappointing...
@@tomstech4390 Oh, silly me. I guess motherboard makers who put 8xsata and 2 m.2-s on x570 boards are just as stupid. Right now I have 3xsata ssd-s and a hard drive. More precisely I have another 2tb drive that isn't connected, because my motherboard only has 4 sata ports. And I plan to buy a gen3 m.2 in the future. And after that a gen4. But what if I decide to add another 2tb sata ssd?
@@danieldudas9026 1) buy nvme ssds, 2) B550 can give you x16gpu, x4 downlink and x4 nvme *plus* 4 sata drives *plus* 2 sata *plus* x8 pcie which might be broken into more m.2 slots (going throught the x4 downlink). I think 6xsata and 3xM.2 should be enough for most people, you just gotta shop more carefully. 3) get a nas or server if you want lots of storage, you should be backing your stuff up anyway dont blame the board makers or amd for your poor shopping and priorities. My system is 9.6L itx and I can fit 3x2TB(or more) SSD's in here with only a single m.2 slot.
@@tomstech4390 I was pointing this out because it doesn't matter if you have 6sata, ports if you can only use 4, if you installed 2 m.2-s. None of the boards featured here have 3 m.2-s, are you sure, you're commenting on the right video? A small itx build with lots of nvme from the get go isn't in everyone's budget, certainly not who is shopping for a 140usd board(hint - the title). Instead buying ssd-s with smaller capacity (smaller as in smaller than several tb) as they fill up with games(and also over time they get cheaper), might be what someone needs. In that case go with the board that steals the pci-e slots from the second x16 slot, not from the sata ports(if you don't need the second x16).
I just wanted to give you guys a little of my experience on the Auros B550 Elite (not a pro like the video said, which he corrected in the pinned note above). I had some issues getting it to post initially, I thought it may have been my power supply so I swapped it out and I reseated my ram just in case. It posted, I got everything set up through bios, no problem. Didn't do anything crazy in terms of overclocking, just turned on XMP and I have a Ryzen 7 3800X so I get no real benefit from fooling with anything there with an air-cooled CPU. Well, updated my system and it needed to restart to finalize updates. Powered off and never completed the boot cycle again. It would turn on, the fan would run for a couple, then turn off. I returned the board and got an Auros X570 pro wifi. Everything else is exactly the same, fired up no problem and works great. I don't think it's a widespread issue but I did see one other reviewer on Newegg say that they had the same problem.
Nice job, appreciate the effort. Hopefully your future review of AM5 boards will include Cinebench scores like your review of Intel B660 boards to ensure throttling isn't happening.
Hi. Awesome videos. Will you be doing a part 3 with the 170$+ B550s, and a roundup/conclusion of ALL B550s you've tested? If so, I'll be looking forward to that video. Thanks again. Your videos offer a great help. More power, and keep safe always!
I have the B550M Mortar and I am quite happy with it. My only one small gripe is that the CMOS reset jumper is directly below the video card. Other than that, my R3700X build is very stable. Why mATX people might ask? Because cases like the Silverstone RL08 exist. :)
Ahh it's good to know that it was a good decision to go with MSI B550-A PRO. This was my first build I was thinking of going with B450 boards but then "Future Proofing" is also a thing. Good to know thermals are not gonna be an issue. Cheers Hardware Unboxed.🍻
B550M DS3H has good enough VRM for most gamers since its temperature with stock 3950X is only 96°C under heavy CPU usage which will never happen in games. Gamers should focus on other features instead. If you want WIFI, go with PRO-VDH Wifi. If you want better audio(1200 chip) , go with B550M Pro4.
Wish i had come across this video sooner in my evening. I’ve been going back and forth whether it was worth swapping out the B550 gaming plus I got from bestbuy for $160, I picked up an Aorus Elite ax v2 for $136 on amazon. Seems like the few bucks saved and more power phases wasnt worth the time to swap it out. Thank you for this review! I wish i didnt already have the PC totally disassembled lol
Whelp, I picked up the tuf gaming full size ATX a couple weeks ago for just over $230 aussie dolleriedoos. Good to know i'm around 3rd from the top in my choice of motherboard! Cheers matey.
Part 1: ua-cam.com/video/wuPH9pCCK-E/v-deo.html
Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/JxczZChFaZI/v-deo.html
Please review this build. I put this together yesterday after researching for 5 months for my first ever PC
CPU - Ryzen 5 3600x(non x is never in stock)(will OC to 4.2 ghz)
GPU - 3070 or 6900XT(whichever is in stock)
MOBO- MSI B550 A Pro
CPU Cooler - Deepcool gammax L240 V2 rgb
RAM - Adata XPG D50 16gb(8*2), 3200mhz(will OC a bit to 3444)
PSU - Antec HCG 750 watts 80 plus bronze
SSD - Samsung 860 Evo Sata 500gb
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 2tb 7200rpm
Cabinet - Deepcool Matrexx 55 Mesh ADD RGB 4 fans included
Mouse - Logitech G402
Keyboard - Razor Huntsman Tournament edition(expensive but I got it in a gift)
Monitor - Viewsonic C - mhd 24 inch 1080p curved monitor(It's 1500r I believe)(I already have a 4k 60hz 65 inch Qled so I can connect it to that if I want low refresh rate and high quality but I won't be doing that often)
If I don't plan for over clock for 3700x, (running at only base clock), is economic to get spending money on best VRM mother board at high price,
Or stick to basic mother board at cheap price??? Which is best for non over clock ??
You cant use either 1600 or 2600 ryzen in any of b550 mobos?
Now the table has turned. We need a video for vrm test of B560 mobo as u know intel came back on 11th gen i5 series processors.
15:47 wait what? the Aorus Elite was like in the top 5 lower temp mobos, how u call it disappointing ? idk get it.... have u been mistaken?
Steve: detailed VRM explanation
Me: how does electricity work
Literally everyone:
Pixies.
All i know is red cable for + and black cable for -, lol.
Black ant nagitve polarity on home electricity
Electrical engineer here:
You plug the power cable to the wall so little electrons can travel to your cpu and work inside.
AC electrons go all over the place they are kinda overqualified for PC work, but DC ones I heard they are the kind of people that don't like changes.
Battery and capacitors are some kind of hotel for them, doublers are cloning device used to reduce cost, but the efficiency of this device is low.
MOSFETS are factories, if you have less of them it gets kinda of crammed and hot for electrons, that's why you need heatsink to keep them cool otherwise they will protest by setting fire in factory and work is over. Currency used to pay workers is Watt.
Hope this helps.
05:11 - I said "Aorus Pro", I meant "Elite". They have the same VRM, so that's my excuse for the mix up ;)
Weird that the Aorus pro performs better than the Mortar while the elite is clearly behind... May be it's the 4 layer pcb ? anyway I bought it a week ago based on Gamers Nexus's video and now realize I got scammed.... DANM
@@Sul_Shadw The Micro ATX boards don't have the same VRM as the ATX models.
@@Hardwareunboxed Not the Micro-ATX one, the ATX that competed with the tomahawk(s) you tested here : ua-cam.com/video/m8d4C80Ub_o/v-deo.html
@@Sul_Shadw Ohh right, with you now. Yes, I have the answer for that one, it will be explained in the next part, basically they have the same VRM components but the 'Pro' design is much better.
Can you guys do a video with the gigabite b550 aurous pro?
Yes finally b550 gaming plus, rare to see in youtube
I'm looking at reviews for it now as Best Buy has both the B550 Gaming Plus and the ROG B550-F in stock at my local store.
@Ricardo Williams Cabrera WA. United States. Both boards go in and out of stock.
@@lolYoruichifan I bought it, it handles my 5800x very well
@@onlytruth6494 Good to know, Especially with the 5800X keeps going under $400 like every couple weeks.
Yea. I believe it's primarily marketed to the asian market which is why you don't see many reviewers with those boards
I do hope that once you've finished all your VRM testing on these boards, you'll give us a sort of "Here's my recommendations for such and such caragoty" video, going over best budget, all arounder, best period and such. Really wanting to get a good idea on which board to go with for my build.
MSI coming in strong, what a massive improvement over their early X570 releases.
Machistmo Unify is heralded as the best overall OCing board from features and vrm sub $300 even beating some significant competition beyond $300. Motherboard wise they’ve hit the nail on the head after the disaster of the early sub $300 boards.
Machistmo Supply in the UK isn’t too bad unsure about the US supply.
I got Msi X570 tomahawk wifi for 190€ Fantastic motherboard for my ryzen 7 3700x with 16gb ram 3600mhz and noctua nh-u12s coller for cpu.
@@Machistmo this kid had a bad MSI board once and called them ass lmao. My B550 Gaming Plus has been excellent. It handles a 4.3GHZ OC @1.35V on my Ryzen 5 3600 very well. I am glad I went with this for 30 dollars less than the B550 F-Gaming from Asus
Machistmo I got my x570 a-pro for $150 a few weeks ago and it’s great for my overclocked 3700x
"They still get blown away by the MSI B550m bazooka" hahah.
14:30
It blew up ....
Haha. They need to fix their naming conventions.
Man my mornings here on the east coast US always start right when there's a new Harbor Boxed video! ;)
Can we stop with these it start to sound really stupid.
past week it was hammer unbox
Conspiracy theory: Gigabyte makes crap products and attaches the Gaming X monicker to discredit MSI’s high-end brand.
Marketing gimmick at its prime.
I dunno man, I am loving the crap out of my 2060 Super Gaming X
@@enderholten Yeah. MSI Gaming X products are great. Read my theory again and see if you missed something. Watch the video to be sure. The video features a Gigabyte... Gigabyte Gaming X product which is trash, not MSI. Your 2060 Super is an MSI card, isn't it? Check the box. I think Gigabyte is intentionally naming their low-end products with the name MSI puts on their really good stuff! Why would they do that? Well it obviously worked on you if you don't know which of them made your graphics card! Floob has a bad experience with a product that says "Gaming X." Floob never buys Gaming X again. RIP MSI and their awesome Gaming X products like your graphics card. Do you see now? Oh forget it. FML. The surprisingly large number of people who liked my comment probably see the logic there, even if you don't. Your confusion is their confirmation, or at least worth a laugh.
Mark Davenport I think you are right about marketing thing
It is mainly bad design more than cheap stuff
Literally using this as additional info for guidance on mobo selection. You guys are doing holy work here. Please don't stop.
I took a chance on the B550M Mortar Wifi on release before many major reviews because it was available in my country and had a lot of the features I wanted, so I'm glad it performs well and I didn't get screwed by jumping the gun.
I was really concerned about my choice going for the MSI B550 Gaming Plus but it seems like i hit the nail on the head, given my needs (SPDIF Output for Audio is non-negotiable) system configuration and budget, it's simply the best board that suits my need, THANK YOU for posting this cause i was really worried about the VRM performance on it. I can't wait to build my system, going all AMD as i plan on running Linux, so, i expect it to be quite the smooth experience. Cheers mate, really appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos.
Seems we have same reason to choose the same board
Steve: Works hard throughout the week to get us B550 vrm tests
Everyone: He said Pro instead of Elite accidently
Ps: Pls don't bully him lol
haha you've got to love it ;) Anyway my bad.
Why are you bullying me?
Pretty sure everyone's bantering, not being dicks
@@Machistmo Care to enlighten me?
@@gamingunboxed5130 Please reply to my question in thread under your post in the comment section of the video. Oh and thanks for the great content!
Lot of work, i´m always impressed with the density of info on each video.
Great stuff, think in no time this video will sky rocket as well as the other b550 videos.
ZEN3 can´t come soon enough.
In the summary he says, you really can't go wrong with:
MSI B550-A Pro
Asrock B550M Steel Legend
Asus TUF Gaming B550M-Plus
MSI B550 Gaming Plus
MSI B550M Mortar
Thanks
Asrock B550 Pro is doing very well with temps for it's price.
Thank you for all the work you put into this. I currently built my 2nd computer after my first build 9yrs ago. I have that b550 mortars from msi, this made me feel even better about my build. Keep up the hard work.
Really glad I made the right decision with going for the Mortar!
I was surprised by the test. Awesome board.
I'm also between mortar and tomahawk! What was your other suggestions?
@@monzer3750 tomahawk doesn't have WiFi I guess soo mortar will be better and cheaper
I got the gaming plus but congrats man!
"Hardware Unboxed"
Finally the autocaptions have registered your name properly
Yeah it's getting better everytime. That's AI for you 😁
He told that slowly though, like a split word
It was an honest mistake. The AI will get back to harbour unboxed in no time!
A revisit for me. In late 2022 I bought two Gigabyte Gaming X (V2) boards for a very good Black Friday price, and I run them on average 3.5 hours a week, one with a 5700X and one with a 5600X. Both are very simple systems running 32GB of 3200 CL16 or 3600 CL 18 RAM. Neither has ever presented a VRM heat issue. I don't overclock and obviously had no plans to when I decided on this motherboard.
Excellent work as always, I love these types of videos with the no bs straight information without any sugar coating.
It seems that my choice has narrowed to the Mortar and the TUF. Thermals are really important for me since I live in a tropical country, where daytime/ambient temps are mid to high 30s year-round.
This just gave me the push to get the MSI B550 Gaming Plus
WOW! I recently bought more or less randomly the B550M Mortar, it was almost the cheapest B550 board here in Hungary, and the 2 reasons why I picked it over the cheapest are the 4 years of flawless service of the MSI A320M Pro VD Plus, and the front USB Type-C connector. Good to know it is a quality board! 😀👍
Thanks for this benchmark video. I am happy, that I bought the MSI B550 Gaming plus 1 month ago.
Thank you again for the quality tests. I love to watch these videos and you guys are simply the best at testing.
Great b550 Mobo roundup, thanks Steve!
Waiting for this before purchasing mine.
MSI did really great with their line up this time.
Thanks, this is very useful content. I have that Asus B550M Tuf board, mostly because it was one of the few boards which was available here, and I picked it more for the features than the possibility to overclock - but it's nice to see that I can realistically upgrade the CPU to a higher power one in the future.
Is it still good today?
@@Red.exe7 Brother, some people play new games just fine on almost 10-year-old motherboards (like all the LGA 115X series, like Z97 etc) and just slap in beefier GPUs. A lot of CPUs have aged pretty decently. Of course a good AM4 board is still good today. The 5600 and 5600X are some of the best CPU value on the market still (especially if you get them used). Of course you've got DDR5 now, but it's hardly in any way, shape or form necessary over DDR4. The only consideration you really have to make is if you're planning to upgrade again shortly, in which case you might as well just opt for an AM5 board instead.
I just picked out an MSI gaming plus for the features, glad the VRM thermals seem good!
i am planning to buy gaming plus ..is everything ok?
again. with the most useful reviews.
"can't handle, unplug" -sheen
This is FANTASTIC content. So informative - perfect for someone looking to learn more about mobos and find out which is worth buying. Keep up the good work!
Extremely helpful...just what I was looking for! Your channel just keeps getting better and better...thank you!
the B550 Gaming Plus seems like an attractive option for ATX
@@AmCanTech why is that?
Gaming Plus is the new Tomahawk.
Been waiting for benchmarks on these boards !! Big thanks !!!
Thanks to this video. I got myself a MSI B550 Gaming Plus.
Just got the B550m Pro4 for $75 after tax with a rebate on newegg. Pretty damn pleased especially for the price.
I'm so happy my Mag Mortar is doing really well
If I ever go to Aus or you come to the US, I owe you and Tim a few beers. Thanks for all the hard work you guys do. Cheers buddy
Great video, I love the format. Got a good overview off all boards and wasn't drowned in performance slides.
That MSI B550 A-Pro is an absolute gem for that price.
Please make a Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 settings breakdown.
they're probably still downloading it lol
Everytime he speaks about VRM's
My brain🤯 : He is speaking language of motherboards😇😇
We are very fortunate to have a couple of VRM ‘rainman’ level channels on UA-cam!
Massive amount of work done here. Thanks to the Harbour team!
Thx love the mobos comparison VRM reviews
lol that b550 mortar is a beast
Thank you for answering the questions noone else has the patience to test, but matters a lot to every consumer.
thanks mate !!! I got the Asus Tuf here for a fair price and its nice to know i can upgrade down the line without any worries.. really appreciate what you do here!
So happy to subscribe to real experts channel. Regret I haven't done it before. You do a great job.
Bought Ryzen 3700X + b450 tomahawk. 2 intake fans in front, 1 intake fan in top, 1 outtake fan at the back. No overclocking. No issues so far.
This is great mobo will serve you well
Hey Steve! I just saw you got over 500k subs, and i remember me saying when you were at 100k that you'll get over 500k in no time. Glad it happened. Best regards and may you continue to 1mil.
Great review, MSI B550M Mortar is such a mini beast!
Hoping to see Asus ROG Strix B550-F and B550-E tested soon. Seeing the poor performance from B550-A makes me skeptical about those two. Thanks for these informative videos. 🙂
Decided to preemptively purchase the MSI B550 Gaming Plus as with a promotion it effectively cost me around $190. Was nervous going into this video, but now I feel justified in my purchase. Thanks Steve!
Can't wait for the ITX roundup! Love the work, sir. Top notch.
Steve is a fucking hero. His work ethic is mental
I'm a month late, but I can attest to the TUF B550 being incredible. It gave me similar overclocks to my previous X570 prime and ran a bit cooler. One feature it has that other boards at it's price point does not is a Thunderbolt 3 header for an option card, so while the built in IO is lacking, this makes up for it for anyone who has devices that utilize thunderbolt like me.
Thank you for the video and If I may suggest, maybe for some next video, it will be a good idea to compare b550 with x570 that are on the same price range
Thank you for your extensive testing! I really appreciate that even if I won't buy one of those boards.
Extremely interesting content! 😍👍🏻
Thanks Steve. I guess I made the right call buying the MSI B550 Gaming Plus even when there were hardly any reviews last month. I had all my parts ordered, but the B450 boards I wanted were out of stock for many online stores five weeks ago. I bought the MSI Gaming Plus because it was one of a few boards that were available within $30 of the price of B450 boards I planned to buy.
I chose the B550M Mortar WiFi for my build. At stock settings my 3900xt scores CPUMark 34433 (average of 11 tests, global average 33022 for 3900xt), with a single core score of 2934 (average of 6 tests, global average 2804 for 3900xt). All board temperatures below 50 degrees centigrade with one 120mm exhaust fan. It is memory fussy, follow the certified vendor list. Thanks for this review which helped me. Bluetooth is also included as part of the WiFi implementation on this board. The supplied 'rabbit ear' antennas are not very high quality.
super glad I picked up the Mortar for my friends build on day 1
Best motherboard test video for B550 right now!
Great work!
Many people noticed that Steve accidentally says Aorus Pro instead of Aorus Elite in the intro, but the biggest error in this video is at 14:03 when Steve adds the Part 1 boards into the graphs: the B550*M* Aorus Elite is missing! (There should be 7 purple bars, not 6.) Despite the similar names, the B550 Aorus Elite and B550*M* Aorus Elite are very different boards. In this video, the B550*M* is only mentioned once when Steve concludes it is disappointing at 15:41; don't confuse this with the B550 (no M) Aorus Elite reviewed in this video which is one of the half a dozen Part 2 boards that Steve says "delivers excellent results"!
Wish I'd discovered this before I ended up getting a B550 Gaming X V2 alongside a 5900X... still not arrived yet but now not feeling too great about it!
It's not just about temperatures. It's also about efficiency and curve smoothness. Here it is better to have less phases at higher switching frequencies. If you have too many phases, they will simply be inactive most of the time. This is why the new B550 Tomahawk is so good with just 5 phases, which switch at 600 kHz instead of 400 kHz.
I don't know what you're talking about but yes, yes I agree 😄
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I think its Aussie winter
30-32 here also, air-conditioning at full speed only takes it to 26!!!😅
Lazarus The adventurer . Need better AC?
@@seanbrennan5469 Yup. I was in Australia in August, and it was cold and rainy. Even ran the air conditioner for heating the hotel room, which I didn't expect to need - being from Norway and all. When the weather cleared up, we went on some nice walks.
Woohoo for MSI B550M Mortar. I bought this B550M Mortar Wifi this summer not knowing it would be a VRM champ, I got it for its silver/white aesthetics. So coupling this board with a Ryzen 5 3600 and Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 all-in-one, the CPU socket temp stay at a comfortable 27°C, CPU core 31°C idle
Great video! I'm assembling a new PC in 2-3 weeks and my current parts list included the Asrock b550M Pro4. Now swapping it with MSI B550-A Pro. Dodged that bullet....
On a different note, the power delivery of B550 boards seem seriously upgraded across the board. Makes me wonder if that's not a response to Zen 3 specs provided to board manufacturers. Higher operating frequencies maybe?
but the msi B550 A pro is not compatible with the Ryzen 4000G series right ??
It's worth mentioning that on a lot of these b550 boards the second m.2 and sata 5-6 share lanes. So if you install 2 m.2 ssd-s you typically would not get 6 sata ports, just 4, even if the boards physically have 6 ports. Which is super disappointing...
Because so many people have 2x NVME drives and 6 blocks of spinning rust.
@@tomstech4390 Oh, silly me. I guess motherboard makers who put 8xsata and 2 m.2-s on x570 boards are just as stupid.
Right now I have 3xsata ssd-s and a hard drive. More precisely I have another 2tb drive that isn't connected, because my motherboard only has 4 sata ports.
And I plan to buy a gen3 m.2 in the future. And after that a gen4.
But what if I decide to add another 2tb sata ssd?
@@danieldudas9026 1) buy nvme ssds, 2) B550 can give you x16gpu, x4 downlink and x4 nvme *plus* 4 sata drives *plus* 2 sata *plus* x8 pcie which might be broken into more m.2 slots (going throught the x4 downlink). I think 6xsata and 3xM.2 should be enough for most people, you just gotta shop more carefully. 3) get a nas or server if you want lots of storage, you should be backing your stuff up anyway dont blame the board makers or amd for your poor shopping and priorities. My system is 9.6L itx and I can fit 3x2TB(or more) SSD's in here with only a single m.2 slot.
@@tomstech4390 I was pointing this out because it doesn't matter if you have 6sata, ports if you can only use 4, if you installed 2 m.2-s.
None of the boards featured here have 3 m.2-s, are you sure, you're commenting on the right video?
A small itx build with lots of nvme from the get go isn't in everyone's budget, certainly not who is shopping for a 140usd board(hint - the title).
Instead buying ssd-s with smaller capacity (smaller as in smaller than several tb) as they fill up with games(and also over time they get cheaper), might be what someone needs. In that case go with the board that steals the pci-e slots from the second x16 slot, not from the sata ports(if you don't need the second x16).
I just wanted to give you guys a little of my experience on the Auros B550 Elite (not a pro like the video said, which he corrected in the pinned note above). I had some issues getting it to post initially, I thought it may have been my power supply so I swapped it out and I reseated my ram just in case. It posted, I got everything set up through bios, no problem. Didn't do anything crazy in terms of overclocking, just turned on XMP and I have a Ryzen 7 3800X so I get no real benefit from fooling with anything there with an air-cooled CPU. Well, updated my system and it needed to restart to finalize updates. Powered off and never completed the boot cycle again. It would turn on, the fan would run for a couple, then turn off. I returned the board and got an Auros X570 pro wifi. Everything else is exactly the same, fired up no problem and works great. I don't think it's a widespread issue but I did see one other reviewer on Newegg say that they had the same problem.
Nice job, appreciate the effort. Hopefully your future review of AM5 boards will include Cinebench scores like your review of Intel B660 boards to ensure throttling isn't happening.
I'm using the B550M Aorus Elite. Currently on a tropical climate but temperatures are great. 60-65c avg. Great value! 👍
Hi. Awesome videos. Will you be doing a part 3 with the 170$+ B550s, and a roundup/conclusion of ALL B550s you've tested? If so, I'll be looking forward to that video. Thanks again. Your videos offer a great help. More power, and keep safe always!
I have the B550M Mortar and I am quite happy with it. My only one small gripe is that the CMOS reset jumper is directly below the video card. Other than that, my R3700X build is very stable. Why mATX people might ask? Because cases like the Silverstone RL08 exist. :)
Whew. I pulled the trigger on a Tuf Gaming B550-plus the other day as a package deal for my 3700x.
Ben Upde you were lucky
damn i simply couldn't imagine monitor steve to be outside his monitor.
He's in your monitor 🙃
@@Entenuk1 LMAO. true ^^.
Ahh it's good to know that it was a good decision to go with MSI B550-A PRO. This was my first build I was thinking of going with B450 boards but then "Future Proofing" is also a thing. Good to know thermals are not gonna be an issue. Cheers Hardware Unboxed.🍻
The B550M Mortar was recommended for my latest pc build for Ryzen 7. Nice to see reviews that justify it.
Well that definitely helps confirms my future purchase decision on the mortar wifi. Once again great work Steve
Oh no Steve is now saying Hardware Unboxed, what have you done! Harbor Unbox for life.
B550M DS3H has good enough VRM for most gamers since its temperature with stock 3950X is only 96°C under heavy CPU usage which will never happen in games. Gamers should focus on other features instead.
If you want WIFI, go with PRO-VDH Wifi.
If you want better audio(1200 chip) , go with B550M Pro4.
I don't get it, was he talking about the Gigabyte b550 Aorus Elite or pro ?
Awesome series!! I really hope you get the msi b550 gaming edge wifi for the 160+ cards
It's so good to see an Asus micro atx board performing so well. My only wish is that the I.O shield was pre-installed like most of the other boards.
Do you recomend the mortar and the bazooka to pair with a ryzen 5 3600?
Thats not an Aorus Pro. Its an Aorus Elite, just as the box says
Yeah I was thinking where is the Type c port if its an aorus pro
Righto Mr. Pedantic...
It’s ok. That’s what I’m actually looking for haha
Yeah i was so confused when he said only 4 sata ports as the pro has 6.
No shit sherlock
Looking forward to adding mini itx boards to the roundup. I'll wait until i see the numbers.
Bought the b550-a Pro few days ago, great great board
Wish i had come across this video sooner in my evening. I’ve been going back and forth whether it was worth swapping out the B550 gaming plus I got from bestbuy for $160, I picked up an Aorus Elite ax v2 for $136 on amazon. Seems like the few bucks saved and more power phases wasnt worth the time to swap it out. Thank you for this review! I wish i didnt already have the PC totally disassembled lol
as usual extensive benchmarks and detailed explanation. good jog steve.
Steve :*Talking about VRM configurations*
Me : He is speaking the language of the gods
"HARD ware unboxed"
UA-cam is HARD
That's 93.75% correct!
please stop
I got "Welcome back to hard where unboxed"
Good job, man 👌🍻 This video sure sounded like a B550 Pro Tongue Twister 😆
which one should i buy, msi b550a-pro, or msi mpg b550 gaming plus?
Im really enjoing my b550m steel legend, just not sure why the b550m pro4 has a better heatsink for the VCore vrm, pretty silly.
Same as mine but I have a bit problem that one of the usb port had a warning "device descriptor failed" should I return this board?
I'm pleased to see that when i just purchassed a tuf b550 plus to replace my old b450 for my new 5600x
Do you think the b550 gaming x is okay for the 5600x?
My b450 tomahawk working perfect for me.
Finally
You guys are awesome
What a video
Thank you so much
outstanding work guys !, you are really doing a good job with the motherboards ! congratulations !.
You guys are the best channel for motherboard temps reviews
My gigabyte Z390 Gaming X burned after 2 months. My MSi lasted for 2 years no problem. Glad to see they are still going strong
Whelp, I picked up the tuf gaming full size ATX a couple weeks ago for just over $230 aussie dolleriedoos.
Good to know i'm around 3rd from the top in my choice of motherboard!
Cheers matey.