As someone who builds PCs frequently I have to say thanks for all the work you put into these. Building and testing all these is tedious and a ton of work. These videos are very informative. Great work.
Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?
Taichi is the only board of theirs worth considering and as I personally will never support MSI or Asus ever again, I have to hope Gigabyte keep up the good work on the higher end stuff. As for GPU's GD do I wish EVGA made AMD cards, I know Sapphire and Power Color are considered to be really good, but EVGA always manages to impress in terms of quality/noise/longevity for me at least.
yea if you followed Buildzoid x570 coverage, that pretty much applies to b550, minus features here and there, hence why he hasn't done anything really much with b550.
I did a bunch of research and landed on the MSI B550m Mortar (the non wifi one, I don't need wifi).. The VRM design is the best I could find on an matx board, I think the same as the ones featured here. The machine is built and running, and I am happy to report I am very satisfied. I went mATX for the reduced size and because I found a case I really like. (Silverstone RL08) In short, I am happy with the MSI board.
@@falcon3169 I was thinking more like a regular oven. I hate these thin designs they always try to go for rather than the older, more efficient, desktop replacement designs that were big, beefy, and had decent cooling going on as well as made it very easy to clean. Yeah they were heavy, yeah they were big, but man you got what you paid for and it was WORTH it.
dude i bought this mobo i cant believe it has such a horibble vrm. i saw x570 model and it was really good thats why i bought this but now im regreting. But for now i have no problem at all with this mobo
I am planning for ASUS Prime B550M-A AM4 PCIe 4.0 DDR4 (4600 O.C.) 2X M.2 USB 3.2 Gen2 mATX Motherboard with Aura Sync RGB Support should I stop buying I want to pair with ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1650 super twin 4gb ram gddr6
The bazooka blew it out of the water - I see what you did there. :D The Asrock board did reasonably well; it's a shame about the situation with them. I hope things improve in the coming months. Great content as always. :)
@@Werthas I personally wouldn't buy any B550 board for 3900x, let alone a much more power hungry 5900x, as the 5000 series is not as efficient as the 3000. that being said, the ones they tested in this video were supposed to be the budget options. i use that term loosely as the MSI Bazooka is not exactly a budget board, it's part of the Tomahawk family which is some of the best boards they make. still the fact that some of these boards were able to handle a 3900x at all says alot, that means there more than good enough for the Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 3 3200G, 5600G, 5600X. i think the Ryzen 7 3700x, 3800x and 5800x might be a little too much for these boards. the MSI B550M PRO VDH WIFI is the one that impressed me the most, but the Asus Prime board getting hotter than the rest despite costing more doesn't surprise me that much. because they always tend to cost more, but it's people and tech reviewers are the one's that tend to overrate them alot. i had a couple Asus boards over the years, and never had too much trouble when i had a i7 3770k on a Asus Prime Z77. i didn't do much overclocking, but i rarely saw temperatures go above 70 degrees Celsius. maybe Asus was better in the past, but i had one on a Core 2 Duo way back in 2007 when i first got into PC, and it worked flawlessly. that said i do seem to have better luck with Gigabyte than MSI, i had a MSI board when i upgraded to the i5 6500 Skylake, and i had lots of problems with it. i got a Gigabyte board when i upgraded to first gen Ryzen, and now on my second Gigabyte board with Intel i5 11400.
Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?
@@Jeymez Hi bro! Im buying a gaming pc, and am thinking of buying Ryzen 5 5600 and combining it with Giagyte B550M aorus pro ac, and also puting a rx 6600 xt, what do you think about this? I rrally worry about motherboard, is this gigabyte bests one for 5600 out of all this budget ones.
I just used the B550i Aorus Pro AX for a new build with the 3700X. Very happy with it & it sets me up to replace the CPU down the line without upgrading the motherboard again. Great comparisons.
Same, same. All-in with Ryzen 4000 and (depending on Price/Performance) Nvidia 3000 or Big Navi card. In preparation for cyberpunk 2077 (and because I can and want to)
Absolutely phenomenal information! Thanks for putting all of these boards up against each other in such a useful, informative manner. This is way better than squinting at webstore photos to try and make a decision.
This seems to be a common malady in some marketing department people, whether they're at Asrock, Asus, MSI or Disney. MSI even tried to bribe and theaten people into making better reviews, which is worse than blacklisting. The engineers and product specialists are usually cool and reasonable people.
@@castlebear199 Type A personality business flunkies without proper PR or legal training and poor supervision trying to make a sale at any cost. Too bad the company is still liable for the actions of their employees, and poor supervision is not an excuse.
Just bought the Asrock Pro4. The audio (ALS1200) was the thing that tipped me towards that one instead of a MSI board. I hope they're sending you stuff again, as your review is what made me interested in the board.
Why is asus sabotaging themselves? Lately every single AMD board that is semi-competitively priced has been a fire hazard and the boards that are actually not shit are so overpriced that it doesn't matter.
Well, there's a lot of older PC builders who trust Asus blindly, because they remember the days when Asus was more closely correlated with quality and value (I know some of these people, they want Asus, and they don't care about reviews). Nowadays, Asus is just charging extra because they can get away with it, though that doesn't explain why some of their products have been so bad. Remember people, don't trust ANY of these brands. Always check reviews for your exact model before buying. They can put out great products at one point in time, then 6 months later they could be releasing some of the worst products (or both bad and good ones at exactly the same time). Some of these brands have been worse or better on average, but all of them have released either crappy products or over-priced products on multiple occasions.
@@syncmonism Yeah. I have an Asus TUF B450M-Pro Gaming, and I'd love to say that I bought it after watching Buildzoid's review where he gave it a grudging "OK, if you're using it for APU or 6-core, max", but in reality, I looked at the features I wanted and then went with a brand I recognized. AFTER buying it, I googled around a bit and realized Asus/TUF didn't mean much of anything any more. Which made me wish I'd gone with Gigabyte, which wasn't a good reaction neither. If you can't find a review from a trusted reviewer, don't buy the board. If Harbour Untox'ed and Gamer's Nexus don't have a review, but ReallyGoodReviewsInc have a glowing one, that's not a review - that's an advert. Don't fall for it.
Yeah on amazon the reviews for the crosshair x570 say don’t hesitate it’s a great price! When there’s an x570 MSI board for 150 US dollars less than the crosshair but had all the bells and whistles
If you want to use ASUS, you have to buy the Rog Strix model, for extreme price all in their products(graphics card, motherboard, ect.) So I recommend MSI motherboards, and Gigabyte graphics cards.
Asus has the best bios and stability. Been using them for 20 years. Abused the hell out of them sometimes with huge static electric shocks or bending or overheating and they always impressed me how they make my lazy mistakes into a non-issue. Great quality from Asus.
here in Indonesia, Asrock B550M Pro 4 is cheaper than gigabyte UD and any msi board (the cheapest is B550M HDV which isn't recommended because of no heatsink) 😅
Hey Steve, always appreciate your in depth benchmarking. With the RTX 3000 series imminent, would you consider doing a revisit of a 1080 Ti vs 2080 vs 2080 Super revisit? I'd be interested to see if the continued driver updates and refreshes have increased the performance gap since launch.
@@DanielFrost79 I don't think the same, i bought my fist board from asrock the z170 extreme 4 and it was great in terms of vrm temps,bios was easy to use,even tho this was the first pc i ever made i oced my 6700k to 4.5ghz easy and memory to 3.2ghz. After that ,i moved to z370 i got the asus prime A and even tho my cpu only pulled 5watts more than the 6700k the temps on vrm were noticeable higher 10-15c higher or more.Now i am on asus x570 prime p and in terms of temps it's very good with a 3700x, bios on the other hand... had a lot of problems with it to the point i gave up on ocing and just stuck to undervolting and memory oc. No manufactuerer makes the best products all the time, they make duds from time to time,often intentionally.That's why reviews are very good in helping us decide what to get.
While I find the blacklisting disappointing, I think that as long as the engineers did their job right, I will forgive ASRock for their marketing department. The B550M Pro4 caught my eye before, and I'm happy that it got good results.
Also, if you make such decisions based on companies' marketing department, far as I can see (based on what I remember) Gigabyte is the only choice. ASUS has threatened legal action against bad reviews (including against Hardware Unboxed) and MSI both threatened and tried to bribe reviewers. So ASRock certainly isn't the only one with a bad marketing department.
@@syrynx4454 Exactly. Thanks for a proper response. I agree. I have not tried an AMD cpu for the last 4 years so i cannot say how they are. Last one i had was the FX8350, yeah i know, the fake octa core which in fact was a quad core. But still. If you have issues with a brand and change brands andd dont have any issues, ofcourse you're gonna stick to the one who aint giving you any issues. That's just how it is. 🖖👽
Recently bought a 3800XT and asrock b550m pro4 to pair with it. This video was of great help as I was considering returning the board for an x570 board. Now I am extremely excited to get my build underway and can proceed with confidence knowing the board should be be more than capable paired with the 3800XT. Also shout out to Micro Center as I was able to get the CPU and motherboard for just over $400 bundled together which I thought was incredible value
This is fantastic content and I love that you included discussion of the Audio codecs on the boards. Most of us at least plug our headsets in to game, and it's such a huge part of the gaming experience. Good to see you including this discussion in motherboard reviews!
It's certainly informative, but I was disappointed there was no mention of efficiency (power draw), and possibly some basic performance figures using cinebench/blender.
Just wanted to say a big 'thank you' to you guys for making my decision easy on my choice of mobo. I decided to get back in to pc gaming after some years away. I missed it, to be honest. Last Christmas I saw the gfx scenario & thought I'd opt for the 5700g which was on sale at the time for ~£250 so I paired it with an MSI pro vdh wifi which was also on sale at ~£59 brand new (I know a steal at that price right) Your video was key to my decision. All the MSI b550 mobos seemed to be the same 'over clocking/speedwise' so my decision was easy. Built the whole build in a beauty of a tower Corsair 4000d air white withe 32gigs of ram and 750watt psu for a total of £640. Still holding out for a 6800xt performance gfx card at £500(seems reasonable to me) which sadly still hasn't materialised but the 5700g has been fine at 1080p on my 1440p monitor on games like BF1,4&5 and ACC so I can wait. Keep up the good work guys. Thanks!
Absolutely love the VRM testing videos and have been waiting for this one. Keep up the great work guys! It would be nice to see a comparison of the best B550 board in relation to x570
yes, that tech guy from gamers nexus really embarrassed himself. He didn't test it or even have it, but based on specs (in his opinon) it was utter garbage and would burn up. Nobody should believe that guy's opinion's in the future
@@IDKOKIDK Lol are you talking about Buildzoid? The guy who's an *a*ctually *h*ardcore *o*verclocker? If so, his channel is Actually Hardcore Overclocking (AHOC) and is _the_ authority on mobo power delivery; from IC part names to memory traces. Whatever he said likely holds truth but from a different frame of reference. For example these temps aren't good, but it's a budget board, so that matters less. Still not great for higher end CPUs and overclocking, though.
Blame their marketing team. Too bad for their designers and engrs making the products as their B550 line up are getting good reviews but getting less exposure because this blacklisting.
@@Chordsmythe I own a Asrock B450 pro4 and I'm quite happy with it, the VRM is almost as good as a B450 tomahawk and it has 7 USB ports. Only downside is that it only supports up to 3200 mhz RAM which isn't much considering most MBs these days do around 4800mhz RAM.
The best board is obviously B550M Aorus Prime unless of course you would like the Asrock B550M Pro4 or maybe the B550M Bazooka or obviously the MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi. Dang Stiggy four boards is going to cost me a lot of money! :)
Just purchased the MSI VDH wifi mobo a couple of weeks ago without any reviews by any customers or experts because, none were available at that time. I'm now comfortable enough to start my build.
My review after 2 years: B550M-A from Asus has held up a Ryzen 9 5900x in a home server build so far flawlessly. It does have chasises fans locked at 70% since its tucked in the basement. Multiple game servers, home stuff like storage, pihole etc. Ubuntu 20.04 installed and running
Both GN and HU have spoken about it, including recently with the MSI/TechTeamGB controversy. Happens all the time, even to big channels. If memory serves me correctly Tech Jesus said they were on Gigabyte's shit list atm. Seems like a regular occupational hazard for proper reviewers.
You're acting like a crybaby. Won't buy product from them, because they blacklisted your 2 favourite youtubers? It's just stupid. If the part is good, just buy it.
Thanks for all the work guys, you really helped me deciding on which motherboard to get, I was doing research for days and by watching your video, I had the answer in less than 23:50 minutes! Keep up the good work, your content is great and straight forward, saved me a ton of headache from other random info online.
Out of these boards I think I would be more likely to go for the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro. While the VRM performance might not have been stellar, the otherboards tended to shift from best to worst while this board remained solidly in the middle of the pack. Add to that the upgraded sound chip which saves me having to purchase a seperate sound card or external sound system.
Bazooka is worst than for example MSI B550 A-Pro and B550 A-Pro is worst than B550 Tomahawk or Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro (ATX) ua-cam.com/video/wuPH9pCCK-E/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Qf0-JoQLeJo/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/m8d4C80Ub_o/v-deo.html
I have a Gigabyte A520M DS3H with a homemade heatsink using the same VRM configuration as the B550M DS3H running a Ryzen 9 5950X. With PBO enabled Vcore drops to 1.14 volts because is unable to increase the current on benchmarks running at a lower Vcore with the MOSFETS at 93 celsius. Is not only the temperature of the MOSFETs is also important the ability to pump up Vcore voltage for maximal CPU performance. The ASROCK B550M Pro4 is the winner of all with 1.321 volts Vcore on the 3950x test.
screw the wifi. i bought the vdh wifi for bluetooth and its FREAKING AMAZEBALLS. using wireless mouse/keyboard/headphones simultaneously is flawless. VERY underrated feature in mobos. otherwise you have to spend at least another $20 for a pcie wifi card.
good job guys! Your channel & Gamer's Nexus are my absolute #1 Hardware Review channels that I watch before purchasing! Shame on companies being silly and trying to blacklist reality - it wont work in the long term.
Asrock black listed your channel? Well, I won't be purchasing anything Asrock until they make nice. Hope they see this! Thank you both for the great content!
I just ordered the MSI B550 Bazooka thanks to this video. This the second time I make a buying decision based on this channel's review or comparison between similar products. Thank you guys!
Gigabyte's mosfets are trash. One went for "just good enough" with cheap-as-chips mosfets while the other did their job with proper engineering and got away with much less. I saw on an overclocking forum both the B550M Pro4 and Aorus M Pro are rated safe up to 125A on ambient, same as the Bazooka and Pro_VDH. Aorus Elite M is at 100A only. Considering the maxed out 3950X at 1.36V and 200W in the video pulls around 140-150A.... It is a little above their pay grade but nothing some good airflow can't fix - this is where a good heatsink comes into play. And Gigabyte decided to put plastics all around it ... Funny thing is B550M Mortar is rated at 200A, lol. Next video is gonna be interesting.
I bought my new system a week ago. I'm not an expert on motherboards and i haven't changed my motherboard since 2011. I was only certain about getting an AMD Ryzen 7 3800X or XT (ended up with XT btw) and let the store builders pick a MoBo for me. They gave me the MSI Bazooka. As I don't use WiFi with my desktop at all. I'm pretty happy and thankful to that builders who didn't ripped me off with something else as I'm not running on any liquid cooling or a giant case at all.
I am slightly disappointed in the results for the Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro, as I have already ordered this board, & am expecting its delivery to me within this week, or the next. I enjoy watching Hardware Unboxed, but these days I am skeptical & distrustful of tech UA-camrs. Often is the case that they are *hoping to keep the review samples they are sent* . I have a 3700X also, so I will be curious to test temperatures of the Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro in a controlled room temp of 21°C, and see how closely my own results line up with Hardware Unboxed's results.
The small youtubers are the ones that would want to keep the products, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus are big enough to not sell out, they did multiple videos about not selling out...
Confused here as on their last round up they gave the aoras pro a good review. This is the aoras pro m. Think it's smaller. Is this enough of a difference or discrepancy?
Hi dude. I have already ordered this motherboard too, plans are only for the new 4000 6/12, my case is not the most ventilated. In general, I would like to know how it works for you with r7 3700x . Is there an unpleasant effect on temperatures in a computer case? And what about the stability of bios, memory overclocking in general? I am from Russia, it costs 9200 rubles ($123) with us, including delivery, the question is interesting, how much did it cost you? I will very much wait for an answer, it will be very pleasant to read it!
Where are the averages guys peak temps have huge variance. Your not minimizing your margin of error and could be giving the world more accurate and useable numbers than this.
@Adithya R Lol no the fuck its not if your only going to list one number and not both it should be average temp. The size of temp spikes varies by hardware, their not maintained, its not an accurate running temp, the only reason we care about peak temps is for avoiding fatal errors and performance issues it may cause, unless you also cite wether or not the performance changed at the time of the peak that numbers only there as a sort of bonus tip, and if your only going to list one number it shouldnt be the one thats effectively just a fun fact
So, basically, these are the only board worth to look at: + Gigabyte B550M DS3H ++ Asrock B550M Pro4 +++ MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wi-Fi ++++ MSI B550M Bazooka
i have a b450m steel legend in one of my pc's :( nah but seriously i only bought it cuz at the time it provided me the best value for what I needed. Luckily i havent been plagued by the countless issues I always read about on reddit and im even running two different brands of RAM on xmp (albeit same speeds and timings), even though everyone advised me against it. Knock on wood and fingers crossed that it doesnt pop a cap on me by next year though lol
Know the difference: MSI: we know that we screwed up but we will try to fix it relying on reviews and We will send You our new, improved product (x570 Gaming edge and their new x570 Tomahawk) ASRock: We screwed up and We know about it so We won't send You our boards to test. *Steve buys these boards anyway and call them shitty for the money You as a consumer have to pay* ASRock: HOW DARE YOU?! WE WILL BLACKLIST YOU AND WON'T SEND ANY MOTHERBOARDS FOR TESTING!!!
The timing of this couldn't be better. Was hesitating between the Aorus Pro and the VDH. This review was a huge help in making that decision. Thanks for the awesome content lads!
Bought Asus B550M TUF just last night, interesting to see if the next review is out before or after I get it on my hands. It doesn't have (activated) VRM thermal sensor, so will be nice to see the numbers here. Already know they are good, but how good we got you for that :)
I`ve just bought Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO an hour ago and now I see this video. Well , dosn`t change much for me, seems my new board is fine even with oced 3950x and for it`s reasonable priced so I will really enjoy it especially since it got good ALC 1200 codec which was one of main reasons I`ve choosen it beside strong vrm. My current z87 board has got lower-end ALC coded and there are some noticable noises.
Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/HSY9rDsQgd4/v-deo.html
Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/JxczZChFaZI/v-deo.html
Can we retest with 5950x?
@@HuntaKiller91 I took his 5950x
As someone who builds PCs frequently I have to say thanks for all the work you put into these. Building and testing all these is tedious and a ton of work. These videos are very informative. Great work.
What the crap is going on? :)
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Now here's a person I did not expect to find here lol
Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?
Blacklisted by Asrock.. that's some fragile minds over there.
some very special snowflakes
wait nooo you canr just not paint it red yellow and blue all at the same time
@QuantumOverider Since 2008 they are separate companies.
besides their highest end board, is it really a loss? meh
Taichi is the only board of theirs worth considering and as I personally will never support MSI or Asus ever again, I have to hope Gigabyte keep up the good work on the higher end stuff.
As for GPU's GD do I wish EVGA made AMD cards, I know Sapphire and Power Color are considered to be really good, but EVGA always manages to impress in terms of quality/noise/longevity for me at least.
Watching this on my one day old Pro VDH build, super happy with it!
Was really looking forward to this because I haven't found any in depth comparisons of B550 mobos.
yea if you followed Buildzoid x570 coverage, that pretty much applies to b550, minus features here and there, hence why he hasn't done anything really much with b550.
@@olo398 well he made this: ua-cam.com/video/ihg6XQiqW7A/v-deo.html
I did a bunch of research and landed on the MSI B550m Mortar (the non wifi one, I don't need wifi).. The VRM design is the best I could find on an matx board, I think the same as the ones featured here. The machine is built and running, and I am happy to report I am very satisfied. I went mATX for the reduced size and because I found a case I really like. (Silverstone RL08) In short, I am happy with the MSI board.
Waiting for your report of Asus's blacklist 😏
They already angry after Asus tuf a51 laptop review
@@falcon3169 Maybe they shouldn't make such garbage products. Lol. Am I right? Or am I right? Lol!
@@Olie956 yeah...it's 2020 and still laptops are running like microwave owen
@@falcon3169 I was thinking more like a regular oven.
I hate these thin designs they always try to go for rather than the older, more efficient, desktop replacement designs that were big, beefy, and had decent cooling going on as well as made it very easy to clean. Yeah they were heavy, yeah they were big, but man you got what you paid for and it was WORTH it.
@@falcon3169 don't forget strix 5700 xt thermal problem
The A in Prime B550M-A stand for AVOID
dude i bought this mobo i cant believe it has such a horibble vrm. i saw x570 model and it was really good thats why i bought this but now im regreting. But for now i have no problem at all with this mobo
Hahah
I am planning for ASUS Prime B550M-A AM4 PCIe 4.0 DDR4 (4600 O.C.) 2X M.2 USB 3.2 Gen2 mATX Motherboard with Aura Sync RGB Support
should I stop buying
I want to pair with ryzen 5 3600 and gtx 1650 super twin 4gb ram gddr6
@@revanthkumar560 buy the bazooka
Wish I could've avoid but at the time this was the only b550 available. I'm regretting it.
The bazooka blew it out of the water - I see what you did there. :D The Asrock board did reasonably well; it's a shame about the situation with them. I hope things improve in the coming months. Great content as always. :)
Hello. What did you mean bazooka blew it out of the water ? İ have 5900x and considering to buy b550m bazooka
@@Werthas Hi, I was referring to Steve's play-on-words. :)
@@Werthas I personally wouldn't buy any B550 board for 3900x, let alone a much more power hungry 5900x, as the 5000 series is not as efficient as the 3000. that being said, the ones they tested in this video were supposed to be the budget options. i use that term loosely as the MSI Bazooka is not exactly a budget board, it's part of the Tomahawk family which is some of the best boards they make. still the fact that some of these boards were able to handle a 3900x at all says alot, that means there more than good enough for the Ryzen 5 3600 or Ryzen 3 3200G, 5600G, 5600X. i think the Ryzen 7 3700x, 3800x and 5800x might be a little too much for these boards. the MSI B550M PRO VDH WIFI is the one that impressed me the most, but the Asus Prime board getting hotter than the rest despite costing more doesn't surprise me that much. because they always tend to cost more, but it's people and tech reviewers are the one's that tend to overrate them alot.
i had a couple Asus boards over the years, and never had too much trouble when i had a i7 3770k on a Asus Prime Z77. i didn't do much overclocking, but i rarely saw temperatures go above 70 degrees Celsius. maybe Asus was better in the past, but i had one on a Core 2 Duo way back in 2007 when i first got into PC, and it worked flawlessly. that said i do seem to have better luck with Gigabyte than MSI, i had a MSI board when i upgraded to the i5 6500 Skylake, and i had lots of problems with it. i got a Gigabyte board when i upgraded to first gen Ryzen, and now on my second Gigabyte board with Intel i5 11400.
Please is it possible to tell me how would Asrock B550M Pro4 Motherboard Micro ATX compare to BIOSTAR B550MX/E PRO , considering both have the same price?
@@Jeymez Hi bro! Im buying a gaming pc, and am thinking of buying Ryzen 5 5600 and combining it with Giagyte B550M aorus pro ac, and also puting a rx 6600 xt, what do you think about this? I rrally worry about motherboard, is this gigabyte bests one for 5600 out of all this budget ones.
In part-2 of this, requesting you to add some mini-ITX motherboards too, if possible. Thank you for your awesome videos!
"Budget" mini-itx boards seem to have disappeared in the recent years. I hope they return soon.
@@xygnal yeah, since many people nowadays look for portability
@@falcon3169 Same with me. Once I realized I could have a case like node 202 with all that performance, there was no going back!
At the moment the budget ITX board space is basically the ASRock B550M-ITX/ac, which I am told has a pretty decent VRM.
@@misterthegeoff9767 MSI B550 itx have better vrm i guess.
I just used the B550i Aorus Pro AX for a new build with the 3700X. Very happy with it & it sets me up to replace the CPU down the line without upgrading the motherboard again. Great comparisons.
Given ASRock and MSI shenanigans I'll probably be getting the same
Just in time. Thinking of a new rig with the (edit: ryzen 5000). Cheers mate. Great content.
And B550 prices should drop too, so ;)
@@Saigonas *sad early adopter noises
Wow, that bazooka! :o
Same, same. All-in with Ryzen 4000 and (depending on Price/Performance) Nvidia 3000 or Big Navi card. In preparation for cyberpunk 2077 (and because I can and want to)
@@ThomasPerl yeah. Same. Mostly preparing for Cyberpunk 2077 and some games that I'm looking forward to.
Absolutely phenomenal information! Thanks for putting all of these boards up against each other in such a useful, informative manner. This is way better than squinting at webstore photos to try and make a decision.
The ASRock board seems pretty good. 6 SATA ports, 2 m.2 slots, improved audio, and at least some USB 3.2 gen 2 ports.
looks good too, especially with even expensive white builds
Why is asus doing this to AMD?
They ruined a15 temps and now these.
Nothing new..
Asus is just a company with shitty products living on no longer deserved reputation.
Asus often has either crappy quality, or overpriced for no reason.
Asus also butchered their 5700XT (TUF) . They reallyyyyyyyyyyyy don't like AMD.
MSI is waybetter than ASUS in most motherboards.
I’m disappointed in you asrock. I like your products but I won’t be buying anything from you if you can’t act like an adult when you get criticized.
same
Instead of taking that criticism and improving their product based on the feedback, they decided to be 5 years old again
This seems to be a common malady in some marketing department people, whether they're at Asrock, Asus, MSI or Disney. MSI even tried to bribe and theaten people into making better reviews, which is worse than blacklisting. The engineers and product specialists are usually cool and reasonable people.
Reminds me of the verge drama
@@castlebear199 Type A personality business flunkies without proper PR or legal training and poor supervision trying to make a sale at any cost. Too bad the company is still liable for the actions of their employees, and poor supervision is not an excuse.
Just bought the Asrock Pro4. The audio (ALS1200) was the thing that tipped me towards that one instead of a MSI board. I hope they're sending you stuff again, as your review is what made me interested in the board.
Why is asus sabotaging themselves? Lately every single AMD board that is semi-competitively priced has been a fire hazard and the boards that are actually not shit are so overpriced that it doesn't matter.
Well, there's a lot of older PC builders who trust Asus blindly, because they remember the days when Asus was more closely correlated with quality and value (I know some of these people, they want Asus, and they don't care about reviews). Nowadays, Asus is just charging extra because they can get away with it, though that doesn't explain why some of their products have been so bad.
Remember people, don't trust ANY of these brands. Always check reviews for your exact model before buying. They can put out great products at one point in time, then 6 months later they could be releasing some of the worst products (or both bad and good ones at exactly the same time). Some of these brands have been worse or better on average, but all of them have released either crappy products or over-priced products on multiple occasions.
@@syncmonism Yeah. I have an Asus TUF B450M-Pro Gaming, and I'd love to say that I bought it after watching Buildzoid's review where he gave it a grudging "OK, if you're using it for APU or 6-core, max", but in reality, I looked at the features I wanted and then went with a brand I recognized. AFTER buying it, I googled around a bit and realized Asus/TUF didn't mean much of anything any more.
Which made me wish I'd gone with Gigabyte, which wasn't a good reaction neither.
If you can't find a review from a trusted reviewer, don't buy the board. If Harbour Untox'ed and Gamer's Nexus don't have a review, but ReallyGoodReviewsInc have a glowing one, that's not a review - that's an advert. Don't fall for it.
Yeah on amazon the reviews for the crosshair x570 say don’t hesitate it’s a great price! When there’s an x570 MSI board for 150 US dollars less than the crosshair but had all the bells and whistles
If you want to use ASUS, you have to buy the Rog Strix model, for extreme price all in their products(graphics card, motherboard, ect.) So I recommend MSI motherboards, and Gigabyte graphics cards.
Asus has the best bios and stability. Been using them for 20 years. Abused the hell out of them sometimes with huge static electric shocks or bending or overheating and they always impressed me how they make my lazy mistakes into a non-issue. Great quality from Asus.
fun facts: in Malaysia, ASRock B550M Steel Legend is cheaper than MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wi-Fi 😅
Clearly because the people in Malaysia know the true value of the boards
Lmao Malaysians will always go for value xD
here in Indonesia, Asrock B550M Pro 4 is cheaper than gigabyte UD and any msi board (the cheapest is B550M HDV which isn't recommended because of no heatsink) 😅
Hope this b550m bazooka enters our market..seem like a good option other than b550m mortar
@@mohdhazwan7706 b550m bazooka is using 4 phase vcore while b550m mortar is using 8 phase vcore so for ryzen 9, using b550m mortar is a better choice.
Hey Steve, always appreciate your in depth benchmarking. With the RTX 3000 series imminent, would you consider doing a revisit of a 1080 Ti vs 2080 vs 2080 Super revisit? I'd be interested to see if the continued driver updates and refreshes have increased the performance gap since launch.
+1
Isn't 1080ti is in 2070 super league? It performs at around 5700xt-2070super level.
@@niar69 Nah, rtx was weak on release so instead of 1080 ti being similar to 2070, it was more similar to 2080.
@SonnieSlim thats why even 5700xt beats it in like 30% of games?
One thing next gen Nvidia cards are RTX 21 series not 3000 if you saw their twitter you will understand what I mean
Love when a video justifies my purchase, even 2yrs later. Got my boy the MSI B550M WiFi 👌
Don't you just love this channel for doing something like this which no other channel does!!
ASRock blacklisted you guys? 😟 Definitely not buying any of their stuff!
I bought that shitty brand once.
Changed to Gigabyte and never had any issues since. Asrock is a low lever crap brand in my eyes.
@@DanielFrost79 I don't think the same, i bought my fist board from asrock the z170 extreme 4 and it was great in terms of vrm temps,bios was easy to use,even tho this was the first pc i ever made i oced my 6700k to 4.5ghz easy and memory to 3.2ghz. After that ,i moved to z370 i got the asus prime A and even tho my cpu only pulled 5watts more than the 6700k the temps on vrm were noticeable higher 10-15c higher or more.Now i am on asus x570 prime p and in terms of temps it's very good with a 3700x, bios on the other hand... had a lot of problems with it to the point i gave up on ocing and just stuck to undervolting and memory oc.
No manufactuerer makes the best products all the time, they make duds from time to time,often intentionally.That's why reviews are very good in helping us decide what to get.
While I find the blacklisting disappointing, I think that as long as the engineers did their job right, I will forgive ASRock for their marketing department. The B550M Pro4 caught my eye before, and I'm happy that it got good results.
Also, if you make such decisions based on companies' marketing department, far as I can see (based on what I remember) Gigabyte is the only choice. ASUS has threatened legal action against bad reviews (including against Hardware Unboxed) and MSI both threatened and tried to bribe reviewers. So ASRock certainly isn't the only one with a bad marketing department.
@@syrynx4454 Exactly. Thanks for a proper response. I agree. I have not tried an AMD cpu for the last 4 years so i cannot say how they are. Last one i had was the FX8350, yeah i know, the fake octa core which in fact was a quad core. But still. If you have issues with a brand and change brands andd dont have any issues, ofcourse you're gonna stick to the one who aint giving you any issues. That's just how it is. 🖖👽
Just ordered the bazooka thanks to this channel for a 5900x. Awesome content, thanks.
Recently bought a 3800XT and asrock b550m pro4 to pair with it. This video was of great help as I was considering returning the board for an x570 board. Now I am extremely excited to get my build underway and can proceed with confidence knowing the board should be be more than capable paired with the 3800XT.
Also shout out to Micro Center as I was able to get the CPU and motherboard for just over $400 bundled together which I thought was incredible value
This is fantastic content and I love that you included discussion of the Audio codecs on the boards. Most of us at least plug our headsets in to game, and it's such a huge part of the gaming experience. Good to see you including this discussion in motherboard reviews!
I like how MSi's b450 tomahawk is almost cannibalising their newer brethren.
You have satisfied my VRM thirst.
It's certainly informative, but I was disappointed there was no mention of efficiency (power draw), and possibly some basic performance figures using cinebench/blender.
This channel is insane
Just wanted to say a big 'thank you' to you guys for making my decision easy on my choice of mobo. I decided to get back in to pc gaming after some years away. I missed it, to be honest. Last Christmas I saw the gfx scenario & thought I'd opt for the 5700g which was on sale at the time for ~£250 so I paired it with an MSI pro vdh wifi which was also on sale at ~£59 brand new (I know a steal at that price right)
Your video was key to my decision. All the MSI b550 mobos seemed to be the same 'over clocking/speedwise' so my decision was easy. Built the whole build in a beauty of a tower Corsair 4000d air white withe 32gigs of ram and 750watt psu for a total of £640. Still holding out for a 6800xt performance gfx card at £500(seems reasonable to me) which sadly still hasn't materialised but the 5700g has been fine at 1080p on my 1440p monitor on games like BF1,4&5 and ACC so I can wait. Keep up the good work guys. Thanks!
Absolutely love the VRM testing videos and have been waiting for this one. Keep up the great work guys! It would be nice to see a comparison of the best B550 board in relation to x570
Just ordered the MSI B550 Bazooka. Thank you for the info on the boards.
Loved the thorough work and fluent presentation. Very useful to those in the market for B550 mobos!
Asrock b550m Pro 4 is tough budget board thanks to u bro!
yes, that tech guy from gamers nexus really embarrassed himself. He didn't test it or even have it, but based on specs (in his opinon) it was utter garbage and would burn up. Nobody should believe that guy's opinion's in the future
@@IDKOKIDK are u referring to buildzoid?
@@royjacob5197 Yes he did a video on 550m boards on hardware nexus channel and said the vrm's were terrible
@@IDKOKIDK Lol are you talking about Buildzoid? The guy who's an *a*ctually *h*ardcore *o*verclocker? If so, his channel is Actually Hardcore Overclocking (AHOC) and is _the_ authority on mobo power delivery; from IC part names to memory traces.
Whatever he said likely holds truth but from a different frame of reference. For example these temps aren't good, but it's a budget board, so that matters less. Still not great for higher end CPUs and overclocking, though.
I don't know wait, i thought the pro 4 was on BZ’s list of recommended $120ish mATX board? With m aorus pro and ds3h
Asrock blacklisted u guys? lol for what? honest reviews?
edit: nvm got my answer at 22:00
asrock are clowns for that one lol
@@zululvivon8224 Especially considering their b550 board is a good board according to the results in this revoew.
Blame their marketing team. Too bad for their designers and engrs making the products as their B550 line up are getting good reviews but getting less exposure because this blacklisting.
Does anybody actually own an assrock MB?
@@Chordsmythe I own a Asrock B450 pro4 and I'm quite happy with it, the VRM is almost as good as a B450 tomahawk and it has 7 USB ports. Only downside is that it only supports up to 3200 mhz RAM which isn't much considering most MBs these days do around 4800mhz RAM.
Wow. I'm waiting on my bazooka, bought it despite no reviews anywhere. Only board I could find at a budget price. I'm so glad I did.
For anyone watching in 2023,
get a MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI,
if you’re looking for a great mATX mobo
I love how you can tell who bought which board based on the comments
The best board is obviously B550M Aorus Prime unless of course you would like the Asrock B550M Pro4 or maybe the B550M Bazooka or obviously the MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wifi. Dang Stiggy four boards is going to cost me a lot of money! :)
You guys are the best! Thanks for keeping us guys, who love to save money while still making a strong rig, still in mind🙂
Just purchased the MSI VDH wifi mobo a couple of weeks ago without any reviews by any customers or experts because, none were available at that time. I'm now comfortable enough to start my build.
My review after 2 years: B550M-A from Asus has held up a Ryzen 9 5900x in a home server build so far flawlessly. It does have chasises fans locked at 70% since its tucked in the basement. Multiple game servers, home stuff like storage, pihole etc. Ubuntu 20.04 installed and running
Nicee to read, i have the same mobo and wanted to upgrade my r5 3600 to r7 7700x3d guess is gonna be fine
Asrock have blacklisted Gamers Nexus and Hardware unboxed? Absolute kek, good to know. Will never buy anything from them ever again.
asrock made some shitty motherboard ?
well, just blacklist 2 of the best PC reviewer on youtube, what could go wrong ?
weird since their board did pretty good!
@@vadergrd They didn't do that well with intel boards tho, arguably worse than asus with amd actually
Both GN and HU have spoken about it, including recently with the MSI/TechTeamGB controversy. Happens all the time, even to big channels. If memory serves me correctly Tech Jesus said they were on Gigabyte's shit list atm.
Seems like a regular occupational hazard for proper reviewers.
You're acting like a crybaby. Won't buy product from them, because they blacklisted your 2 favourite youtubers? It's just stupid.
If the part is good, just buy it.
2021 will be a great year to shop for a new PC ❤️
Aged terribly
@@dhxft 😆
Thank you! I've been waiting for this for ages.
Thanks for all the work guys, you really helped me deciding on which motherboard to get, I was doing research for days and by watching your video, I had the answer in less than 23:50 minutes!
Keep up the good work, your content is great and straight forward, saved me a ton of headache from other random info online.
ASUS: we'll keep you warm.
Out of these boards I think I would be more likely to go for the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro. While the VRM performance might not have been stellar, the otherboards tended to shift from best to worst while this board remained solidly in the middle of the pack. Add to that the upgraded sound chip which saves me having to purchase a seperate sound card or external sound system.
Good, now all we need is the full ATX versions test.
Bazooka is worst than for example MSI B550 A-Pro and B550 A-Pro is worst than B550 Tomahawk or Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro (ATX)
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I've already seen buildzoid's similar video a few days ago but Steve's video is a bit more comprehensive imo. Great job as usual!
Thanks for the interesting comparison!
Excellent review, I've been waiting a while for this, was always curious how the b550m pro4 would fair.
I have a Gigabyte A520M DS3H with a homemade heatsink using the same VRM configuration as the B550M DS3H running a Ryzen 9 5950X. With PBO enabled Vcore drops to 1.14 volts because is unable to increase the current on benchmarks running at a lower Vcore with the MOSFETS at 93 celsius. Is not only the temperature of the MOSFETs is also important the ability to pump up Vcore voltage for maximal CPU performance. The ASROCK B550M Pro4 is the winner of all with 1.321 volts Vcore on the 3950x test.
What a beast 😂
screw the wifi. i bought the vdh wifi for bluetooth and its FREAKING AMAZEBALLS. using wireless mouse/keyboard/headphones simultaneously is flawless. VERY underrated feature in mobos. otherwise you have to spend at least another $20 for a pcie wifi card.
In the next few days the bazooka will be OUT OF STOCK
Glad I brought one a few weeks back.
Just like mortar
Bought one for my 3600 and I'm pretty pleased with it.
This mobo have argb suport ?
good job guys! Your channel & Gamer's Nexus are my absolute #1 Hardware Review channels that I watch before purchasing!
Shame on companies being silly and trying to blacklist reality - it wont work in the long term.
Asrock black listed your channel? Well, I won't be purchasing anything Asrock until they make nice. Hope they see this! Thank you both for the great content!
I just ordered the MSI B550 Bazooka thanks to this video. This the second time I make a buying decision based on this channel's review or comparison between similar products. Thank you guys!
MSI BAZOOKA did BAZINGA in those tests. 😂
Asus continues with their standard policy in recent years. Offering worst product for the most money....Awfull.
X570 Prime and Z490 Prime are good
B550-f gaming: Am I a joke to you?
Tuf gaming B550 plus and b550m plus are excellent boards that you can find for a good price (120-140€ on amazon.es).
Crosshair VIII Hero was great
@@pranav3848 I like mine. And as far as I've found it's the only x570 board with the diagnostic numbers in a place I can see them.
May you guys never need to depend on any manufacturer for review units, fantastic work guys! Love from India.
Been waiting for this video, thanks guys!
Well, ASRock wont be getting any business from me until they correct their marketing no matter how good a board may be.
i hope you wont get an MSI Board(Product) either, a lot of companies f up
Yeah. If they blacklist someone who shares honest review then they are not worthy of our trust
ikr im shocked, even going as far as suing people, honestly I would love to see all big tech youtubers just straight up boycot them out of solidarity.
Honestly, you should just buy the best product you need
@@zululvivon8224 a companies ethics matter mate, its a slippery slope too
What the hell is wrong with gigabyte? A doubled 5 phase being beaten out by ASRocks doubled 3 phase.. Is the heatsink that poor?
Gigabyte's mosfets are trash. One went for "just good enough" with cheap-as-chips mosfets while the other did their job with proper engineering and got away with much less. I saw on an overclocking forum both the B550M Pro4 and Aorus M Pro are rated safe up to 125A on ambient, same as the Bazooka and Pro_VDH. Aorus Elite M is at 100A only. Considering the maxed out 3950X at 1.36V and 200W in the video pulls around 140-150A.... It is a little above their pay grade but nothing some good airflow can't fix - this is where a good heatsink comes into play. And Gigabyte decided to put plastics all around it ...
Funny thing is B550M Mortar is rated at 200A, lol. Next video is gonna be interesting.
Thank you guys for your reviews. Based on your testing I have ordered an MSI B550M PRO-VDH
I bought my new system a week ago. I'm not an expert on motherboards and i haven't changed my motherboard since 2011. I was only certain about getting an AMD Ryzen 7 3800X or XT (ended up with XT btw) and let the store builders pick a MoBo for me. They gave me the MSI Bazooka. As I don't use WiFi with my desktop at all. I'm pretty happy and thankful to that builders who didn't ripped me off with something else as I'm not running on any liquid cooling or a giant case at all.
I am slightly disappointed in the results for the Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro, as I have already ordered this board, & am expecting its delivery to me within this week, or the next. I enjoy watching Hardware Unboxed, but these days I am skeptical & distrustful of tech UA-camrs. Often is the case that they are *hoping to keep the review samples they are sent* . I have a 3700X also, so I will be curious to test temperatures of the Gigabyte B550M Aorus Pro in a controlled room temp of 21°C, and see how closely my own results line up with Hardware Unboxed's results.
The small youtubers are the ones that would want to keep the products, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus are big enough to not sell out, they did multiple videos about not selling out...
Confused here as on their last round up they gave the aoras pro a good review. This is the aoras pro m. Think it's smaller. Is this enough of a difference or discrepancy?
Hi dude. I have already ordered this motherboard too, plans are only for the new 4000 6/12, my case is not the most ventilated. In general, I would like to know how it works for you with r7 3700x . Is there an unpleasant effect on temperatures in a computer case? And what about the stability of bios, memory overclocking in general? I am from Russia, it costs 9200 rubles ($123) with us, including delivery, the question is interesting, how much did it cost you? I will very much wait for an answer, it will be very pleasant to read it!
@@FieryFlash to add to my previous reply the aoras pro and the pro m are very different. Which is yours?
@@nito_gocni5460 B550m
Where are the averages guys peak temps have huge variance. Your not minimizing your margin of error and could be giving the world more accurate and useable numbers than this.
@Adithya R Lol no the fuck its not if your only going to list one number and not both it should be average temp. The size of temp spikes varies by hardware, their not maintained, its not an accurate running temp, the only reason we care about peak temps is for avoiding fatal errors and performance issues it may cause, unless you also cite wether or not the performance changed at the time of the peak that numbers only there as a sort of bonus tip, and if your only going to list one number it shouldnt be the one thats effectively just a fun fact
I got the b550m Aorus pro , i love it i got it for 100 from 130 since microcenter has deals when you buy a cpu as well.
What a perfect time !!. Been waiting for this..
Steve could you be so kind as to check the dram voltage limit on the b550m pro 4? The b450m boards had a cap of 1.4 shit is dog.
You forgot the "M" in the B550 video title
I dont think there are any ATXs in that price range, maybe 1
Very happy with my B450 Tomahawk which I bought back in late 2018 on your recommendation Steve, thanks!
Thanks Steve. Such informative video. Just looking to buy budget B550 mobo. This help alot. Thanks again Steve & Tim.
So, basically, these are the only board worth to look at:
+ Gigabyte B550M DS3H
++ Asrock B550M Pro4
+++ MSI B550M Pro-VDH Wi-Fi
++++ MSI B550M Bazooka
MSI boards are so awesome
Asrock blocklisting anyone is so rich.
Who even wants their wrinky dinky motherboards? lol
i have a b450m steel legend in one of my pc's :( nah but seriously i only bought it cuz at the time it provided me the best value for what I needed. Luckily i havent been plagued by the countless issues I always read about on reddit and im even running two different brands of RAM on xmp (albeit same speeds and timings), even though everyone advised me against it. Knock on wood and fingers crossed that it doesnt pop a cap on me by next year though lol
But i mean it performed decent? It’s even higher than the aorus pro
Appreciate your work Steve. Glad this channel exists.
OMG thank you kind sir, I really need this kind of video explanation about the motherboards! It really helps me a lot
Asus again sticks to it reputation of being mostly overpriced gargabe. Nice!
Honest review > BLACKLIST 🤣 that's really disgusting
Just amazing video as always
I bought the MSI Pro VDH wifi based on this review. Solid board. Although, because wifi was non-negotiable, it kinda wins by default lol.
Steve: "the most expensive board, ASUS"
Nobody: Don't worry Steve I have no money for ASUS anyway!
Know the difference:
MSI: we know that we screwed up but we will try to fix it relying on reviews and We will send You our new, improved product (x570 Gaming edge and their new x570 Tomahawk)
ASRock: We screwed up and We know about it so We won't send You our boards to test.
*Steve buys these boards anyway and call them shitty for the money You as a consumer have to pay*
ASRock: HOW DARE YOU?! WE WILL BLACKLIST YOU AND WON'T SEND ANY MOTHERBOARDS FOR TESTING!!!
I have been waiting for this video for a long time. Thank you.
The timing of this couldn't be better. Was hesitating between the Aorus Pro and the VDH. This review was a huge help in making that decision. Thanks for the awesome content lads!
Hi. Which one did you get?
Nah fr though help me out if you got the vdh?
@@kashiefhenry830 VDH. Still going strong 2 years later
@@DrChorske what cpu did you get?
Been waiting for this comparison. GREAT VID
In Indonesia , the Asrock B550 Pro4 is $20 cheaper than the B450 Tomahawk. Nice
that's B550M Pro4 bro... not B550 Pro4
fantastic, in-dept content! I greatly appreciate your contribution to sensible consumer choices
I didn't know it - but this is the video I was waiting for. Great information.
Always enjoyed watching motherboard vrm comparison reviews
Best Channel, in depth VRM breakdown is unique here and insanely useful. Appreciate all the work, insta subscribe.
I had been eagerly waiting for this. Thanks brother for making this video.
thanks for indepth analysis. Great and high quality as always!
Sweet. Looking forward to the mid-range roundup.
Your videos helped me to build reliable PCs on multiple occasions. Thanks a lot, guys!
Bought Asus B550M TUF just last night, interesting to see if the next review is out before or after I get it on my hands. It doesn't have (activated) VRM thermal sensor, so will be nice to see the numbers here. Already know they are good, but how good we got you for that :)
Got the pro vdh from your link. Thanks for your effort!
I would love to see this type of content for next gen cheaper motherboards particularly the A series
Thank you for this vid, I’m looking to build my first rig early next year with ryzen 4000 and I was waiting for this info
I`ve just bought Gigabyte B550M AORUS PRO an hour ago and now I see this video. Well , dosn`t change much for me, seems my new board is fine even with oced 3950x and for it`s reasonable priced so I will really enjoy it especially since it got good ALC 1200 codec which was one of main reasons I`ve choosen it beside strong vrm. My current z87 board has got lower-end ALC coded and there are some noticable noises.
Thanks for this. The MSI Pro vdf seems to run my 3600xt way more stable then my wonky X370 Asrock killer sli I had before it