Lots of motherboard content this month, thanks for staying tuned so far, going to get back to the usual used goodness soon! *EDIT the ASUS b550 e ROG is working perfectly after the retail bios update!* *
Yeah. It's too early for any B550 accordingly to their current prices. If they drop over 30% after a month i will give them a shot. For such money you will take X570...
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My Aorus B550 master is almost at my door. Should be delivered by Monday-Tuesday. Running R9 3900x - 16 x 2 3600 CL 18 I am wanting opinions and suggestions for GPU as I am not sure which route to go for that piece of hardware
Great board if you do no overclock. But, the dual bios is a real pain if you do. Smart buyers will wait for Big Navi to release. Prices should drop closer to the end of the year.
Nice overview. Would like to see content on the Aorus B550 Pro, as this is a lot more affordable than the Master, and still has a very good VRM Cooling Solution.
I actually preordered the B550 Steel Legend, not mATX. It's just been shipped. I'm excited to build my first Ryzen PC and upgrade from a Dell Optiplex motherboard and i5 2400.
That motherboard is sketchy for any more than 8 core CPUs. Steel Legend / Extreme4/ PG Velocita (which all have the same PCB/ VRM metrics) are the lowest I'd go personally on AsRock.
steel legend and tuf plus have better memory t-top (see no capacitor next to DIMM slot), so if you like memory OC, get these. Gigabyte board suck this time tho.
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Nice video, thanks for all this info. One thing: when testing onboard Audio noise levels do that within gaming where you have some level of coil whine from the GPU! That is really important cause normally it renders every onboard chip useless in my opinion.
Love my MSI B550M Mortar. Unbeatable for the price. The VRM is ridiculously cool with my Ryzen 3600 @4400mhz and it has no problem running my dark pro 8pack 3600mhz cl14-15-15 ram.
I ultimately went with the steel legend as I don’t plan to OC my 5600x. I love the amount of USB ports available. I’ll be using an external sound card so the audio isn’t of concern for me. Only bummer is no usb c front panel header.
@@giandeguzman8198 Well that definitely applies for the cpus that require a lot of power and generate a lot of heat. A 65w TDP that I don’t plan overclocking is going to be of zero issue.
I really need a tip: is the b550 gaming edge wifi worth it over the b550 tomahawk? In the country where i live, gaming edge costs 20 dollars more. Any advice will be appreciated THANK YOU
Really strong review. Very insightful measurements and well presented. Seems like the B550 Tomahawk would be a lock for a gaming centric build with a new 5000 series processor outside of the the obviously weaker audio section.
With how good all of those VRMs are I think it comes down to feature sets, pricing and also looks (at least to me). The Steel Legend looks terrible in my view and I would never put that in my system. The Mortar looks great, but it lacks some RGB and it's rear IO is pretty bad. The Tomahawk has the same rear IO and it lacks Wifi. The Strix E, Taichi and Master and ridiculously expensive. So.. there's not really any board that does it all for me, even though they are all very good - even something like a B550 Elite will overclock a 5950x just fine (as long as you don't draw more than 200 amps current, which is pretty hard with even a 16 core)
Started watching your videos recently. Thank you for the amazing content. I'd love to see a test with some of the cheaper B550. The models you showed are great but I don't think they are priced fairly. You recommend the B550 Tomahawk over the B550M Mortar for just 20 bucks more but I think it's better to spend a bit more and go with the X570 Tomahawk. It's similar with many more expensive B550 when it might be better to go with a good entry X570 like the ASUS X570-P. Thanks once again, keep up the great work.
My opinion is that the Asrock B550 Taichi is the best mainboard in the category of features, sadly it is the most expensiv B550 board in Germany (around 300 Euro that's 353 US-Dollars). The second is the Asus ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming, but it has a few weaknesses, there's only 2 USB 3.0 ports at the I/O bracket and 4 USB 2.0, finally only 6 normal USB-ports (USB-Type -C is very special I think so). And there's an audio USB 2.0 Type -C port, who need this kind of port? I'm sure much more people wants a optical S/PDF out than an audio USB-Type-C port! And the Asus Strix B550-E Gaming is expensiv (around 250 Euro) too. Finally I think the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi is the best premium B550 mainboard, the list of features are good, the VRM's are good too and the layout/design is fantastic. The price around 210 EURO or 247 US-Dollars in Germany is OK yet. Excuse me for my worst english, i haven't often the possbility to use it.
Was interested in the Asus B550 F-Gaming Wifi but the Clock and Ram Issues that you tested bother me.. if there is an update/fix would be nice to know!
@@SISSYPUSS I got it for a good deal from NCIX. It was on we-wanna-get-rid-of-it clearance sale. Solid board. My cousin gave me his B85M-G but with a white GPU, I wanted to do a black and white themed build alà Greg Salazar Walter-White-style. The black board was the best available for cheap.
Me and my Wife bought the B550 Taichi a Store listed it for 189 bucks on accident soooo we got it for way cheaper . They fixed the pricing right after . got to say I love how the Taichi looks
@@StuartDo The B550 boards have better VRMs, in general (can handle high power cpus better thermally) and some have better features like PCIe Gen 4 storage (faster data transfer to support potential future graphic card needs like Ray Tracing).
Is it worth it to get a b550 vs a b450 for up to an 8core? If the b450 is a better value would you rather get a x370 and flash the bois or does the b450 have features the x370 is missing?
i know it's late ... i got a B450 steel legend and wanna upgrade to B550 steel legend .. Im running a 5800X3D with a RTX 3060 ... would it be a good/ ''great'' upgrade for improved performance?
Wait, are you saying that the Mortar has a 6-layer PCB?? From what little information I've gotten so far, it's running only on a 4-layer PCB. The Tomahawk is a 6-layer. If that's the case and the Mortar is a 6-layer PCB, then the Mortar Wifi would be an easy pick for me. MSI's more honest approach to memory MT/s ratings, the much better heatsinks, the 60A powerstages, front C and integrated AX wifi for $20CAD less would make the Mortar Wifi a no-brainer; only remaining quibble is the absolutely ridiculous location of the CMOS jumper on the Mortar compared to the convenient rear I/O button on the Steel Legend.
I am thinking about the b550 master since I already have a m.2 SSD and I am planning on installing more, also I am ordering a 3700x and I might overclock it, also planning to install more ram in the future so is this the best board for that?
i seriously have my doubts, with the 1.4v he was feeding his 3950x would be a seriously toasty 250-270w tdp the noctua would need to handle, although i have seen them handle 5.1ghz 9900k that would be like 220w tdp. if you can get away with 1.3v@4.3ghz on the 3950x it would make a worlds difference, but that depends on your luck with silicone lottery
Subscribed. Very good review with the price check, the m2 speed, the vrm temp check, the power efficiency check. Got question.: 1.which board has vrm temp sensor 2.except steel legend, will support raid0 2 nvme PCIx4? 3. Will it support 4 x 32gb ram 3200/3600? 4. The cheapest cooling solution for 3900x/3950x with pbo on less than 90C wprime 95 (hopefully vrm throthling off and cpu cooling throthling off also) : ID cooling se-224-xt / deepcool as500 / any cheapest liquid cooling?
@Abdulhadi Zahrani pro has 6 system fan headers and backpanel USB-C port , the elite only 3 fan headers and no usb-c port. but the elite is 40 euros cheaper....
(chart 5:33) it's not all wasted - 380W from wall at let's say PSU with 95% efficiency means 361W out the back of the PSU, with a power loss of 38W. That 361W is all the components in the case - subtract 260W for CPU usage (95% VRM conversion efficiency ends up at 240W used by CPU), that leaves 101W for mb, ram, ssd, fans, rgb, etc.
@@soupwizard of course wasted. As my electronics teacher said - computers are glorified space heaters. Sure, the energy waste has its reasons, as you said very well, but it still is waste. Still impressive how far DC/DC conversion has come. 95% for a ~10/1 conversion is not bad at all
The power draw of the Taichi, Aorus Master, Strix E-gaming were 298, 302, 307. With the test system being the same, the Tomahawk's 386 watts is wasting at least 80 watts of power.
@13:51 The B550 MAG Mortar may only have the one RGB strip on the board but it has 1 x 12v 4 pin RBG and 2 x 3 pin JRAINBOW connectors so you can have unicorn sick colours with LED strips and fans to your heart's content. I may buy this when the price drops a bit.
For a Sub $200 Mobo the MSI MAG b550 Tomahawk is fantastic i use Ryzen 7 3700x and it works amazingly for the price, but if price is no object obviously there are some absolutely incredible mobo for $300+ for example I have a buddy who did an all white “frost” build as he calls it lol with a white Gigabyte Vision b550 and it’s pretty sweet. Obviously RGB and specific color is a personal thing.
Never been an early adopter - best wait till end of year (if you can) to see how they perform with the Zen 3's/Zen2 APUs and hopefully price drops on these first B550's, also the full budget entry price boards will be out and reviewed by then.
2 questions, please: 1.) Doesn't using the B550 chipset mean that you aren't able to get PCI 4.0 support for your M.2 drive if the video card is PCI 3.0 like all the video cards available today? I'm going to install the PCI 4.0 Sabrent Rocket, and i'm having trouble understanding if the 4.0 speed will be supported by the B550 chipset. 2.) Don't all the Intel 2.5G LAN chips have a flaw that will require an RMA to fix? Before you say this only affects the z490 boards, know that this isn't true. The 2.5G Lan chip fix wasn't implemented until June 2020, and will affect all boards manufactured with that Foxville chip before then.
9:23 ASRock Steel Legend does have an M.2 socket that supports PCIe Gen4 x4 while the other M.2_2 socket is capable of running PCIe Gen3 x2 and SATA3 mode. Which is close to 2000MB/s
When you upgrade the pcu of b550 let's say to the Ryzen 7 7800 3d would you then definitely need a liquid cooler or could you keep your air cooler? Edit. And that's running it with like a 4070 super?
hey, would you recommend for Xeon X3470 on ASUS P7P55D 4x4GB Patriot Viper 3 CL9 or 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LP CL9? which would provide more FPS? --- I think 4x4 is Quad Channel and more bandwith, but might not clock or time as well as 2x8, right?
Hi ! How are you today, My Name is is Mr.Herman Woods .I have a Tomahawk B550 MB. WITH A RYSEN 3700X P. AND MY CASE IS NZXT 510I .I WONT TO RUN RGB ! I GOT , THE COSAIR 100Hi cooler .and it has ML SERIES FANS. AND I REALLY WONTED THE COSAIR QL SERIES RGB FANS. THE ML ARE RGB AS WELL .BUT WITH MY CASE ! I NEED EGB ON BOTH SIDE . I AM TRYING TO GET ALL RGB WITH MY MEMORY CORSAIR VENGEANCE 32GB PRO .SO WHAT RGB FANS WILL WORK FOR ME .ON WHAT YOU THINK ! I JUST WONT TO DO 4K NO ! OVER CLOCK ! WITH DE, VENCI 17 .OUR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ! I WONT TO KNOW TO DO CORSAIR ICU WIL GIVE ME RGB ON MY MEMORY STICKS .ON A MSI MOTHER BOARD ! WELL TELL ME ON WHAT YOU THINK ! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME .I AM GOING TO LOOK UP THE KOSS HEAD PHONES .NOW ! THANKS AGAIN ! MR.H.WOODS
Thanks for the Steel Legend 2nd M.2 x2 speed mention, hadn't noticed that That's a no go, it's same speed as any B450 then, so pointless. Currently already bottle necked with my 970 EVO on the PCI-E 2.0 4x slot for 2000mb/s and PCI-E 3.0 2x will be exact same bandwith. Part of the reason my wanting to upgrade from B450->B550 is I'll get full speed of my 2nd M.2 as well, granted it's only on OS duty, so not a big deal, but other motherboards give you x4. Funny thing is I had ASRock Z270 mATX before going B450 and that board already had two 3.0 4x M.2 slots.. :) Still can't get all the features from B550 matx boards that I already had early 2017. That Mortar and ASUS TUF mATX only ones left to choose from. Sadly no ROG mATX and Aorus messed up the Pro mATX not making it copy of the great ATX version. Now all that is missing for the prices to come down, 60€ more for B450 Mortar to B550 Mortar upgrade is a lot for not so much more.
You know you can buy PCIe cards on AliExpress to put NVMe in a regular PCIe slot right? They're like 10 bucks or less from JEYI, and they're really good. But yeah that design decision on the Steel Legend is idiotic. I can vouch for the AsRock X570M Pro4 though as long as you don't plan to OC a 16-core on it.
@@BloodpactORG X570M Pro4 is silly overpriced here 220€ or $245 or 360 aud. I would have bought it on launch if it had alc1220 and decent price. For the add in cards, last time I used those was in 2012 something when I still had a sound card. Whole point to moving to mATX was that I didn't need expansion slots anymore. But yep, plenty fine PCI-e adaptors to be had, heatsinked too. With this ASRock board thou it would give full bandwith funnily enough. Usually the bottom PCIe slot and the M.2 share lanes, but it shares lanes with sata ports, also explaing why it's only 2x. So infact it would also make it only? mATX where you can use the 16x bottom slot along with 2x M.2 drives, so theri decision kinda makes sense too, if you only need one fast M.2
best is 450... 550 is overpriced mb.... Better to buy 570x. In old days when you need soundblaster creative labs mother board had no audio. You need pci slot or different slot even older mb like 1992. Soundblaster and CD-r cost together was 500 dollars. Today motherboard is only 100 bux.. ROFL. Why to spend for 550 ? There is no reason. Just buy 570x.
im building a pc playing on 1080p 75hz monitor help me see if its alright! r5 3600 gigabyte b550 gaming x / asus b550 tuf plus gaming 1660 super/rtx 2060 16gb (8x2) 3200 MHz 1tb ssd nvme r/w ~3k 2tb hdd 7200rpm 650w psu
Here's my issue with the whole B550 ecosystem, right: Half the boards are the same price as x570 boards. What's the point? Unless you're going to the extreme cheap end of B550, why would anyone choose one of these cut-down x570 boards?
I really don't get it Why the fuck mATX motherboard are always looks like budget versions of their full-size sisters rather than just a more compact versions?
No rgb controll?? GOOD i hate RGB and since i got a b550 tomahawk i can turn the stupid chipset heatsink rgb off with the switch on the board lol. Goin for a stealthy and quiet build ^^ Goin to get the 5900x (hopefully) on the day of release, already have the motherboard, ram and hard drive ready ^^ 64gb g.skill trident z 3600mhz and a samsung 980 pro nvme m.2 250gb for the os, keeping my 860 evo 1tb for my games. Now.. where is the time machine so i can get o the 5th of November faster???
Wtf how come the B550 master has 2 more extra usb ports, which there is more of usb 3.2 than x570 master , one more fan header and a better vrm wtf that's shady as fuck , a better 16 phase vrm , I am an enthusiast but i cant fathom why the cheaper board gets these extra features < i I bought the board yesterday waiting for delivery . I am starting to think Gigabyte is shafting X570 master buyers just a little
Hi, can anyone let me know what i'd be missing out in practice if i got b550 over x570? i have seen all the tech stuff explaining it but im not too sure what it all means in practice. any simple (ish) explainations?
from what I understand the b550 is better suited for Zen 3 AMD CPU’s (the next AMD CPUs coming in November) but x570 will still run them. I’m still doing some digging but from what I can tell, it’s not too huge unless you’re planning on going with like 3950x or 5950x massively powerful rig. pends how long you want to keep using your MoBo, and what you want to upgrade around it basically.
Lots of motherboard content this month, thanks for staying tuned so far, going to get back to the usual used goodness soon! *EDIT the ASUS b550 e ROG is working perfectly after the retail bios update!*
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If that guy still wants the P6X58D-E IO shield. I have one.
Is the steel legend good for R5 3600?
Yeah. It's too early for any B550 accordingly to their current prices. If they drop over 30% after a month i will give them a shot. For such money you will take X570...
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I have only one way to figure out which one is the best,
The wallet way
*ASRock* Steel Legend it is !
B450 Asrock
B550-A Pro
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 you can get the b550m ds3h though from gigabyte considering the pre b450 motherboard of this version is good for budget
@@UrbanaticLemonade is it easy to upgrade the bios?
Mid range motherboards over 200$... What the heck are these companies thinking? Is anyone really going to spend almost 300 bucks on a mid range board?
I cant fit my Xeon into these boards! What am I doing wrong?
Maybe you applied the thermal paste over the socket instead of the CPU's IHS.
Maybe you should try to look at the gold triangle and try to align it 😀
Rip out the socket
@@wesmednardhyppolite1680 RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT'S DONE
Need a bigger hammer
My Aorus B550 master is almost at my door. Should be delivered by Monday-Tuesday. Running R9 3900x - 16 x 2 3600 CL 18 I am wanting opinions and suggestions for GPU as I am not sure which route to go for that piece of hardware
RTX 2070 super or higher 👌👍
RTX 3090
Niko Bellic 😂
Great board if you do no overclock. But, the dual bios is a real pain if you do. Smart buyers will wait for Big Navi to release. Prices should drop closer to the end of the year.
@@tonkatoytruck RTX 2000 is a waste of money at this point, use a card you already have or buy a cheap one until the new stuff comes out.
Great content. B550 Tomahawk looks like the best value for money for me.
I have to agree there
You should check out b550 a pro, very good vrm at only 140
B550 mobos cant run ryzens 1600/2600?
@@memecity6722 idk, but either way im not gonna buy 1000 and 2000 series
@@memecity6722 they dont
Nice overview.
Would like to see content on the Aorus B550 Pro, as this is a lot more affordable than the Master, and still has a very good VRM Cooling Solution.
I actually preordered the B550 Steel Legend, not mATX. It's just been shipped. I'm excited to build my first Ryzen PC and upgrade from a Dell Optiplex motherboard and i5 2400.
Enjoy! I bought the Z390 Steel Legend late last year so I could upgrade to a 9700k that I got a killer deal on, and it's been fantastic. :)
Same fisrt ryzen second amd an also came from a close to your dell oem as well so yaa
Hi. May I know, among those 6 what is the best for R7 5800X? Can u suggest? Great review anyway.
Can u review asrock b550 pro4?
That motherboard is sketchy for any more than 8 core CPUs. Steel Legend / Extreme4/ PG Velocita (which all have the same PCB/ VRM metrics) are the lowest I'd go personally on AsRock.
motar wifi is exceptional value considering the vrm is pretty good and feature set is comparable with all but the best b550 options.
@Just s single rank will be fine
steel legend and tuf plus have better memory t-top (see no capacitor next to DIMM slot), so if you like memory OC, get these. Gigabyte board suck this time tho.
How does tomahawk doesn't have a wifi?!
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@Broke As FK Look at the specs, and compare to B450 and X570. The prices on a lot of the B550 boards are really good.
Nice video, thanks for all this info. One thing: when testing onboard Audio noise levels do that within gaming where you have some level of coil whine from the GPU! That is really important cause normally it renders every onboard chip useless in my opinion.
Would it be ok if I put a ryzen 7 3700x on the asrock b550m pro4? No OC.
Love my MSI B550M Mortar. Unbeatable for the price. The VRM is ridiculously cool with my Ryzen 3600 @4400mhz and it has no problem running my dark pro 8pack 3600mhz cl14-15-15 ram.
I would love to get the Msi B550 Mortar or the AsRock B550M stell legend. I just love the mATX form factor as I don't use a lot of PCI-e slots.
I ultimately went with the steel legend as I don’t plan to OC my 5600x. I love the amount of USB ports available. I’ll be using an external sound card so the audio isn’t of concern for me. Only bummer is no usb c front panel header.
Yep but gotta note those temps for stee
Legend
@@giandeguzman8198 Well that definitely applies for the cpus that require a lot of power and generate a lot of heat. A 65w TDP that I don’t plan overclocking is going to be of zero issue.
I am pretty sure, that even if you overclock your 5600x, the temps of the VRM will be fine.
Same bro love M boards, actually Mortar isn't available near me, so i will go for Steel legend as Tuf gaming is pretty expensive than others
The conclusion is the right one.
How important is VRM phase distribution. is 10+2+1 more efficient than 8+2+1? How does Mortar compare with Asus Tuf Gaming B550M WiFi ?
So i guess if the A520 does comes it replaces B450, since B550 is more in between, unless the price of B550 drops, im looking forward to A520
A520 doesn't support overclocking or PCIe 4.0, but it should be cheaper because they cost less to make.
Why not x570 then? It’s a $20 but you get much more features, B550 seems a bit overpriced, I’m waiting for A520 though
August for A520, hopefully it's cheaper than B550.
and you get an annoying bios chip cooler !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 I never hear mine.
My thoughts too. I don't need Pciex4 x2 yet but who knows in a few years.
The x570 at that price point have crap VRM's
b550.. shhhhieee. im in the market for an am3 or x58
imo,
mobo manufacturer trying to replace entry-level x570 with these b550 mobo with those pricing
It make me wonder, what b650 will offer next year
Simple ....... AM5 motherboards with DDR5 ram , Pcie5 , and Ryzen 5000 series on 5Nm !
We're extremely unlikely to get any more chipsets for AM4 after A520. B650 (if it exists) will be for AM5.
@@nathangamble125 but next Ryzen 4000 will launch with x670, right??
@@ZAR556 I think Ryzen 4000 (ZEN 3) will be compatible with X570 (upgrading Bios), currently new B550 and future X670.
I really want to see if the MSI B550 Gaming Carbon is a true successor to its previous gen B450 Gaming Carbon.
it is, with a much better vrm even. It has abit less on audio department tho.
I really need a tip: is the b550 gaming edge wifi worth it over the b550 tomahawk? In the country where i live, gaming edge costs 20 dollars more.
Any advice will be appreciated THANK YOU
Tomahawk better
Gaming edge has fsr better vrm, wifi, blutooth. Defenetely bettrr
I have a question, would u recommend asrock b550m steel legend motherboard for ryzen 5 3600x?
Same though
I'm dreaming to have b450 and u guys launched b550
Tech Yes gunna give it to ya!
Yea, one could not expect buying a B550 M to get a 3950X CPU and overclock, for the price the B550 M Steel did a good job.
Really strong review. Very insightful measurements and well presented. Seems like the B550 Tomahawk would be a lock for a gaming centric build with a new 5000 series processor outside of the the obviously weaker audio section.
With how good all of those VRMs are I think it comes down to feature sets, pricing and also looks (at least to me). The Steel Legend looks terrible in my view and I would never put that in my system. The Mortar looks great, but it lacks some RGB and it's rear IO is pretty bad. The Tomahawk has the same rear IO and it lacks Wifi. The Strix E, Taichi and Master and ridiculously expensive. So.. there's not really any board that does it all for me, even though they are all very good - even something like a B550 Elite will overclock a 5950x just fine (as long as you don't draw more than 200 amps current, which is pretty hard with even a 16 core)
It is around $110.19 after the crypto crash the other motherboards are still expensive and the RGB is kind of distinctive to me.
Great review, thanks for the Audio test (it's usually overlooked). Also I can recommend the Koss KPH30i as I own a white and blue pair.
Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE or ASRock B550M Steel Legend? What do you recommend for r5 3600 - 3600xt?
i have the same question
orutra3000 watch gamer nexus he covers those
Started watching your videos recently. Thank you for the amazing content. I'd love to see a test with some of the cheaper B550. The models you showed are great but I don't think they are priced fairly. You recommend the B550 Tomahawk over the B550M Mortar for just 20 bucks more but I think it's better to spend a bit more and go with the X570 Tomahawk. It's similar with many more expensive B550 when it might be better to go with a good entry X570 like the ASUS X570-P. Thanks once again, keep up the great work.
I want a x570 tomahawk but can’t find one so imma go with the b550 tomahawk, if you know where to find one tell me
Marco Polo same
to easy already imma buy my b550 tomahawk today at night brother
Marco Polo I can’t find the b550 tomahawk motherboard so can you please link if you can. Thank You!🙏
to easy already my bad alr it’s bhphotovideo.com it will ship 2 days after being in stock but you can still buy
Wait why the 2 MSI boards draw much more power than the rest?????
The funniest thing is these cost more than x570 where I live at :D
@Broke As FK Compare boards at similar prices, and usually the only benefit of X570 over B550 is more PCIe 4 lanes.
can't see spending $200 on outdated motherboard when DDR5 is coming in 2 years.
Jaggsta yeah but 2 years is in a whiiiiiiile
My opinion is that the Asrock B550 Taichi is the best mainboard in the category of features, sadly it is the most expensiv B550 board in Germany (around 300 Euro that's 353 US-Dollars).
The second is the Asus ROG STRIX B550-E Gaming, but it has a few weaknesses, there's only 2 USB 3.0 ports at the I/O bracket and 4 USB 2.0, finally only 6 normal USB-ports (USB-Type -C is very special I think so). And there's an audio USB 2.0 Type -C port, who need this kind of port? I'm sure much more people wants a optical S/PDF out than an audio USB-Type-C port! And the Asus Strix B550-E Gaming is expensiv (around 250 Euro) too.
Finally I think the Asus ROG STRIX B550-F Gaming Wifi is the best premium B550 mainboard, the list of features are good, the VRM's are good too and the layout/design is fantastic. The price around 210 EURO or 247 US-Dollars in Germany is OK yet.
Excuse me for my worst english, i haven't often the possbility to use it.
The best bang for buck B550 is an X470, actually.
Can you maybe take a look at the MSI B550 gaming plus? looks like its a good board for 150
I like the wifi version of mortar
Was interested in the Asus B550 F-Gaming Wifi but the Clock and Ram Issues that you tested bother me.. if there is an update/fix would be nice to know!
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Hey Marco , what motherboard you got ?
@@CharlieQ7400 GA-Z97-UD3H-BK
@@MarcoGPUtuber Solid Board, I7-4470/90K in there ?
@@CharlieQ7400 4670K lovingly donated by my cousin when he upgraded. I am lookin to get aboard the Ryzen bandwagon later on
@@SISSYPUSS I got it for a good deal from NCIX. It was on we-wanna-get-rid-of-it clearance sale. Solid board. My cousin gave me his B85M-G but with a white GPU, I wanted to do a black and white themed build alà Greg Salazar Walter-White-style. The black board was the best available for cheap.
Me and my Wife bought the B550 Taichi a Store listed it for 189 bucks on accident soooo we got it for way cheaper . They fixed the pricing right after . got to say I love how the Taichi looks
Update they noticed the mistake BUT I went Karen on them so I still got a discount from 350 down to 300. Woopwoop
If only they could shit it alrdy
That power draw was strange dude, hope they update the bios, so it can have even better temps
probably the rumour about some manufactors showing false power readings, and using extra power is true when looking at MSI
i have the b550 aorus master, i think its the best one all overall
B550 prices are going to have to drop considerably. I got my Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus for $140usd new.
Wow that's a great price!
Daaaaaaamn thats a great deal!
Hello, i don't undestarnd much hardware, but how is b550 better?
@@StuartDo The B550 boards have better VRMs, in general (can handle high power cpus better thermally) and some have better features like PCIe Gen 4 storage (faster data transfer to support potential future graphic card needs like Ray Tracing).
@@tonkatoytruck i am ask you how b550 is better? Asus and more, i am think to buy a rx 5700 xt, but i have a 1660 now...
Mortar is enough 4 me
Is it worth it to get a b550 vs a b450 for up to an 8core? If the b450 is a better value would you rather get a x370 and flash the bois or does the b450 have features the x370 is missing?
MSI Z490 Tomahawk/10600KF and DDR4 4400 buecouse better for gamer and DDR4 work only 3800 with B550.
i know it's late ... i got a B450 steel legend and wanna upgrade to B550 steel legend ..
Im running a 5800X3D with a RTX 3060 ... would it be a good/ ''great'' upgrade for improved performance?
The B550M Aorus Pro seems like a very good deal to me. You should cover it!
Ordered one with 3300x, waiting for delivery.
I bought an msi mpg b550 gaming plus the other day. It seems pretty good for $130
Wait, are you saying that the Mortar has a 6-layer PCB?? From what little information I've gotten so far, it's running only on a 4-layer PCB. The Tomahawk is a 6-layer.
If that's the case and the Mortar is a 6-layer PCB, then the Mortar Wifi would be an easy pick for me. MSI's more honest approach to memory MT/s ratings, the much better heatsinks, the 60A powerstages, front C and integrated AX wifi for $20CAD less would make the Mortar Wifi a no-brainer; only remaining quibble is the absolutely ridiculous location of the CMOS jumper on the Mortar compared to the convenient rear I/O button on the Steel Legend.
I am thinking about the b550 master since I already have a m.2 SSD and I am planning on installing more, also I am ordering a 3700x and I might overclock it, also planning to install more ram in the future so is this the best board for that?
The video mentioned water cooling a lot for over clocking, but can let's say a B550 Taichi with 3950x be OC to 4.3ghz with a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler?
i seriously have my doubts, with the 1.4v he was feeding his 3950x would be a seriously toasty 250-270w tdp the noctua would need to handle, although i have seen them handle 5.1ghz 9900k that would be like 220w tdp. if you can get away with 1.3v@4.3ghz on the 3950x it would make a worlds difference, but that depends on your luck with silicone lottery
Subscribed. Very good review with the price check, the m2 speed, the vrm temp check, the power efficiency check. Got question.: 1.which board has vrm temp sensor 2.except steel legend, will support raid0 2 nvme PCIx4? 3. Will it support 4 x 32gb ram 3200/3600? 4. The cheapest cooling solution for 3900x/3950x with pbo on less than 90C wprime 95 (hopefully vrm throthling off and cpu cooling throthling off also) : ID cooling se-224-xt / deepcool as500 / any cheapest liquid cooling?
Aorus pro should have also been their i think it's the cheapest and best deal
@Abdulhadi Zahrani pro has 6 system fan headers and backpanel USB-C port , the elite only 3 fan headers and no usb-c port. but the elite is 40 euros cheaper....
@Abdulhadi Zahrani pro is cheaper than elite in my country it also has better vrm i think
Elite use same vrm as pro, but elite is only 4 layers so ram speeds are slower.
Any b550 are just not worth by what they actually offert by price :/ I still stick in b450 for sure
What is the power draw of the MSI x570 Tomahawk motherboard? Is it high like the B550 Tomahawk or is it normal like the top end boards?
The diagram with "Power from wall" is one of the best. It's insane how much energy is wasted to get the same amount of CPU work load.
(chart 5:33) it's not all wasted - 380W from wall at let's say PSU with 95% efficiency means 361W out the back of the PSU, with a power loss of 38W. That 361W is all the components in the case - subtract 260W for CPU usage (95% VRM conversion efficiency ends up at 240W used by CPU), that leaves 101W for mb, ram, ssd, fans, rgb, etc.
@@soupwizard of course wasted. As my electronics teacher said - computers are glorified space heaters.
Sure, the energy waste has its reasons, as you said very well, but it still is waste.
Still impressive how far DC/DC conversion has come. 95% for a ~10/1 conversion is not bad at all
The power draw of the Taichi, Aorus Master, Strix E-gaming were 298, 302, 307. With the test system being the same, the Tomahawk's 386 watts is wasting at least 80 watts of power.
Please make b550 mini itx roundup. Love the content!
@13:51 The B550 MAG Mortar may only have the one RGB strip on the board but it has 1 x 12v 4 pin RBG and 2 x 3 pin JRAINBOW connectors so you can have unicorn sick colours with LED strips and fans to your heart's content. I may buy this when the price drops a bit.
For a Sub $200 Mobo the MSI MAG b550 Tomahawk is fantastic i use Ryzen 7 3700x and it works amazingly for the price, but if price is no object obviously there are some absolutely incredible mobo for $300+ for example I have a buddy who did an all white “frost” build as he calls it lol with a white Gigabyte Vision b550 and it’s pretty sweet. Obviously RGB and specific color is a personal thing.
Never been an early adopter - best wait till end of year (if you can) to see how they perform with the Zen 3's/Zen2 APUs and hopefully price drops on these first B550's, also the full budget entry price boards will be out and reviewed by then.
2 questions, please: 1.) Doesn't using the B550 chipset mean that you aren't able to get PCI 4.0 support for your M.2 drive if the video card is PCI 3.0 like all the video cards available today? I'm going to install the PCI 4.0 Sabrent Rocket, and i'm having trouble understanding if the 4.0 speed will be supported by the B550 chipset. 2.) Don't all the Intel 2.5G LAN chips have a flaw that will require an RMA to fix? Before you say this only affects the z490 boards, know that this isn't true. The 2.5G Lan chip fix wasn't implemented until June 2020, and will affect all boards manufactured with that Foxville chip before then.
Cant wait for Tomahawk Max upgrade
9:23 ASRock Steel Legend does have an M.2 socket that supports PCIe Gen4 x4 while the other M.2_2 socket is capable of running PCIe Gen3 x2 and SATA3 mode. Which is close to 2000MB/s
What if you care about stability and functionality like 2 x M.2 and audio, I mean 25-50 Mhz never means anything... but stability is huge
When you upgrade the pcu of b550 let's say to the Ryzen 7 7800 3d would you then definitely need a liquid cooler or could you keep your air cooler? Edit. And that's running it with like a 4070 super?
I'm waiting for tech yes review of a520 motherboards!!!
Pranav Rao I love the Ax20 series
Bro....this is when you need to come in and say nothing is best for the money
are these rams compatible with b550 vision d?
www.toppreise.ch/price-comparison/Memory/KINGSTON-Server-Premier-32GB-KSM32ED8-32ME-p635958?posf=1
I don't understand the B550 boards that are over 200$, up from there you can get pretty decent x570 boards if you need the PCI-e lanes.
hey, would you recommend for Xeon X3470 on ASUS P7P55D
4x4GB Patriot Viper 3 CL9 or
2x8GB Corsair Vengeance LP CL9?
which would provide more FPS? --- I think 4x4 is Quad Channel and more bandwith, but might not clock or time as well as 2x8, right?
Yes bro keep it up my man ✌️
I got my crosshair on Gigabyte’s B550M Aorus PRO. For about 125 euro seems a bargain
Hi ! How are you today, My Name is is Mr.Herman Woods .I have a Tomahawk B550 MB. WITH A RYSEN 3700X P. AND MY CASE IS NZXT 510I .I WONT TO RUN RGB ! I GOT , THE COSAIR 100Hi cooler .and it has ML SERIES FANS. AND I REALLY WONTED THE COSAIR QL SERIES RGB FANS. THE ML ARE RGB AS WELL .BUT WITH MY CASE ! I NEED EGB ON BOTH SIDE . I AM TRYING TO GET ALL RGB WITH MY MEMORY CORSAIR VENGEANCE 32GB PRO .SO WHAT RGB FANS WILL WORK FOR ME .ON WHAT YOU THINK ! I JUST WONT TO DO 4K NO ! OVER CLOCK ! WITH DE, VENCI 17 .OUR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ! I WONT TO KNOW TO DO CORSAIR ICU WIL GIVE ME RGB ON MY MEMORY STICKS .ON A MSI MOTHER BOARD ! WELL TELL ME ON WHAT YOU THINK ! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME .I AM GOING TO LOOK UP THE KOSS HEAD PHONES .NOW ! THANKS AGAIN ! MR.H.WOODS
Thanks for the Steel Legend 2nd M.2 x2 speed mention, hadn't noticed that That's a no go, it's same speed as any B450 then, so pointless. Currently already bottle necked with my 970 EVO on the PCI-E 2.0 4x slot for 2000mb/s and PCI-E 3.0 2x will be exact same bandwith.
Part of the reason my wanting to upgrade from B450->B550 is I'll get full speed of my 2nd M.2 as well, granted it's only on OS duty, so not a big deal, but other motherboards give you x4. Funny thing is I had ASRock Z270 mATX before going B450 and that board already had two 3.0 4x M.2 slots.. :) Still can't get all the features from B550 matx boards that I already had early 2017.
That Mortar and ASUS TUF mATX only ones left to choose from. Sadly no ROG mATX and Aorus messed up the Pro mATX not making it copy of the great ATX version. Now all that is missing for the prices to come down, 60€ more for B450 Mortar to B550 Mortar upgrade is a lot for not so much more.
You know you can buy PCIe cards on AliExpress to put NVMe in a regular PCIe slot right? They're like 10 bucks or less from JEYI, and they're really good. But yeah that design decision on the Steel Legend is idiotic. I can vouch for the AsRock X570M Pro4 though as long as you don't plan to OC a 16-core on it.
@@BloodpactORG X570M Pro4 is silly overpriced here 220€ or $245 or 360 aud. I would have bought it on launch if it had alc1220 and decent price.
For the add in cards, last time I used those was in 2012 something when I still had a sound card. Whole point to moving to mATX was that I didn't need expansion slots anymore. But yep, plenty fine PCI-e adaptors to be had, heatsinked too.
With this ASRock board thou it would give full bandwith funnily enough. Usually the bottom PCIe slot and the M.2 share lanes, but it shares lanes with sata ports, also explaing why it's only 2x. So infact it would also make it only? mATX where you can use the 16x bottom slot along with 2x M.2 drives, so theri decision kinda makes sense too, if you only need one fast M.2
best is 450... 550 is overpriced mb.... Better to buy 570x. In old days when you need soundblaster creative labs mother board had no audio. You need pci slot or different slot even older mb like 1992.
Soundblaster and CD-r cost together was 500 dollars. Today motherboard is only 100 bux.. ROFL. Why to spend for 550 ? There is no reason. Just buy 570x.
im building a pc playing on 1080p 75hz monitor help me see if its alright!
r5 3600
gigabyte b550 gaming x / asus b550 tuf plus gaming
1660 super/rtx 2060
16gb (8x2) 3200 MHz
1tb ssd nvme r/w ~3k
2tb hdd 7200rpm
650w psu
Call me crazy, but I'd still go with a BIOS-updated A320 off Aliexpress.
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@@Millzie-wf1ql What's up man? ;)
Here's my issue with the whole B550 ecosystem, right: Half the boards are the same price as x570 boards. What's the point? Unless you're going to the extreme cheap end of B550, why would anyone choose one of these cut-down x570 boards?
That's because X570 boards are cheaper than they were at launch. Give it few months and price of B550s boards will go down.
Could have included the b550 tuf..🙂... Anyway it's nice .
I really don't get it Why the fuck mATX motherboard are always looks like budget versions of their full-size sisters rather than just a more compact versions?
No rgb controll?? GOOD i hate RGB and since i got a b550 tomahawk i can turn the stupid chipset heatsink rgb off with the switch on the board lol. Goin for a stealthy and quiet build ^^ Goin to get the 5900x (hopefully) on the day of release, already have the motherboard, ram and hard drive ready ^^ 64gb g.skill trident z 3600mhz and a samsung 980 pro nvme m.2 250gb for the os, keeping my 860 evo 1tb for my games. Now.. where is the time machine so i can get o the 5th of November faster???
How much the price and what model for the cheapest b550/m motherboard?
How does the b550m pro4 compare to these? They are priced around this range as well.
Cost like a x570 boards. No sense buy ryzen cpu
Just say NO to 4 layer pcb! MSI and Asus are the ONLY gud options! Gigabytae is OK if you don't give ashit bout RGB control...con cacs!
What's the difference of MSI MAG B550m Mortar and MSI B550m Bazooka??
Is better to buy a motherboard+wifi 6 for $100 more or to buy the wifi 6 card separately by $35-60 and no wifi motherboard $100 cheaper?
Strix or Tomahawk? Leaning to Strix...MSI = best RGB software.
Wtf how come the B550 master has 2 more extra usb ports, which there is more of usb 3.2 than x570 master , one more fan header and a better vrm wtf that's shady as fuck , a better 16 phase vrm , I am an enthusiast but i cant fathom why the cheaper board gets these extra features < i I bought the board yesterday waiting for delivery . I am starting to think Gigabyte is shafting X570 master buyers just a little
MSI and ASRock always budget king
Hi, do you know about SOYO YL-B550M? Hope you can review it aa it's the cheapest one in our country in Shopee. 😅
Thanks for the video! Please can you also review the cheaper mATX boards like Asrock B550M Pro4 and MSI B550M Bazooka and Gigabyte B550M Pro/Elite?
Just ordered a B550 Tomahawk. Thanks for the review bud.
why would anyone buy these b550 boards for 280 when the x570 tomahawk is better and cheaper for 200?
Hi, can anyone let me know what i'd be missing out in practice if i got b550 over x570? i have seen all the tech stuff explaining it but im not too sure what it all means in practice. any simple (ish) explainations?
from what I understand the b550 is better suited for Zen 3 AMD CPU’s (the next AMD CPUs coming in November) but x570 will still run them. I’m still doing some digging but from what I can tell, it’s not too huge unless you’re planning on going with like 3950x or 5950x massively powerful rig. pends how long you want to keep using your MoBo, and what you want to upgrade around it basically.
In south Africa the ATX boards are cheaper than their smaller versions...as well as ATX cases:/
Should I trade a b550-f for a b550 taichi razer edition? Running a 3070 ftw3