Anyone looking to understand wow lore... I swear your videos are the empirically best authority. Separating fact from speculation and opinion, following every story true without going on burgeoning tangents. Well done, sir. I know it's not much, but one more subscriber for you lol.
I will eventually. I already made one of the soundfiles for 5.2 so I will make a new one when either I finish my questline ingame or when new soundfiles are released :)
Haha first off, thank you for your nice comments! ^_^ My favorite speculation I wrote myself and The prophecy of Velen was part of his short story (see description). Blizzard tweeted that they have decided on a new warchief. Who will it be? Anyone's guess. I think Anduin is one of the few still standing who could fullfill the roll of being neutral.
Me too. The lore is really interesting. In part 1 (or 2) there is a photo of numbers of galaxies showing Aiur / Char etc with Azeroth next to them. I was like, OMG. Are they going to clash sooner or later?
Q: Is there truly an Old God underneath the Tirisfal Glade? A: Nope! There’s something incredibly unsettling there, but it’s not an Old God. It isn’t recommended to go digging through the Glades, though. I'll place a link in the description for the source
"A vision where heroes will be born in the fire of battle. They will struggle, they will fight. Some will fall to darkness, some will embrace the light." The chills...
so with the final theory... all of the azeroth champions are meant to be as powerful or close to the titans themselves to help them out saving the universe... that might mean we will get out of azeroth not only to Draenor, but also many other planets enslaved by the Legion, it gives us a lot of potential for the next, amazing expansions to come :)
The lore states that destroying the Old Gods would destroy Azeroth too. Is it possible Azeroth itself is an old god? I mean they are all named after things from the Cthulhu mythos, and there is something named Azathoth in the Cthulhu mythos...
C'thun - Cthulhu, Yogg Saron - Yogg Sathoth, Azeroth - Azathoth. You just blew my mind. That would be amazing! Azathoth was the chief deity in Cthulhu mythos, the most powerful of them all. Who better to be the final boss of WoW, besides Sargeras, than Azeroth his/herself. The very fucking ground you play on.
***** the 1,000 nopes was a joke as in "oh shit the world we play on could be an Old God that's awesome but terrifying". You know when people see something scary in a game and are just like "nope" and turn around. I think that the idea of Azeroth itself being the final boss would be spectacular. Good job on misinterpreting a pop culture joke and calling someone a fuck stick, imbecile.
There are a ton of sources where you can find additional lore, novel/wowpedia/wowiki/know your lore/etc. There is always speculation on what's to come next, but usually they keep future lore locked before the patch is released. If you want to know more about the story in a timeline I would recommend checking out The Story of Warcraft on the WoW website. I'll place a link in the description.
Dragon Wyne Speculation: The (Non-Scourge) Nerubians were likely still loyal to C'thun even after the Aqir schism. They appear to have little to no affinity for Yogg Saron and based on the lore of the Klaxxi, the Qiraji and the Nerubians being "sister kingdoms".Bugs were C'thun's thing even if the Klaxxi were down with Y'shaarj. While Yogg had a thing for the "faceless ones" (Those tentacle monstrosities).
If you look at Ra-den you see pieces of his flesh cut off. Were they used as the "flesh of the makers" to make the bell? I'm still a lore newbie but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
That was awe inspiring and amazing... So much food-for-thought that I'm starving for more. I love the way you piece together the information that only the true loremasters can make connections to. Most of us miss that info in-game and regard it as just another side-quest for xp ;P I especially loved the ending, after the tinfoil hat disclaimer. I'm wondering where you got those amazing lines from! (Velen's and the parts you labeled as your favorite speculation). I'm assuming excerpts from books?
Epicness is the word that could explain the last theory. You've got a wonderful voice as the narrator and your work is inmense and hard-worked.... It's a pitty i cannot click "like" more than once, but you deserve more than you have. Great job!
PLEASE READ MY THEORY :) OK how we know there are 5 old gods(last one is unknown),but i say there are 6..6 one is AZEROTH..and i don't mean planet Azeroth..i mean Azeroth as a creature..he is probably sealed in middle of planet..and how we know there are 5 other gods,and from where did they come from ?I say Azeroth divided himself in 5 parts so they would do something to release Azeroth..but they were imprisoned..so they had to get their servants to release them from prison..and there is some theory about pentagram and i say 5 gods make pentagram and Azeroth will be released ..but 1 god is still missing and he is sealed in Maelstrom(well of eternity) and old gods couldn't find way to release N'zoth so they tried to make pentagram without him so they used Tyr-(tirisfal glades)-tyr's fall..his mind was all in whispers from Yogg Saron..and when old gods finished pentagram with 4 old gods and 1 titan servant they tried to release Azeroth,but it didn't work again..so they had to find way to release N'Zoth..so they tried to call Sargeras to destroy Maelstorm but they stopped him,so old gods tried to do something with lich king and with him tried to destroy everything..but it failed again,and in the end they tried to use Deathwing to destroy maelstrom but again it failed..so they need N'zoth to finish pentagram and somehow release Azeroth..Nozdormu entered the Well of Eternity, to see what was at its heart. He flew into the Well for hours (supposedly) and found nothing... that is, until, tendrils emerged from the darkness and pulled him deeper, where he could see a mouth that must have been linked to a monster so big, Nozdormu looked like an ant by comparison, if not smaller. Nozdormu barely escaped. Eventually, this Old God woke up, eating half the world, turning Azeroth into what it is today, before it was banished back into the well, which is now the Maelstrom. Guess what the name of the biggest, most monstrous Elder God in Lovecraft's universe is called: Azathoth.C'thun=Cthulhu, Yogg'Saron=Yog'Sothoth...they say N'Zoth has something to do with Emerald Dream..and there are stories connected with Cthulhu called Dream Cycle..i know it's bit off from what's actually happening in the Azeroth and Blizzard is saying opposite or something what i didn't mention here and i know that mine is nowhere near close from what's actually happening...but maybe Blizzard wants for you to know that what's happening on Azeroth up until now was true..maybe it was all lie and in last expansion or maybe even IN MOVIE they tell whole truth about Azeroth..they made you believe in this,but when you least expect they just tell you whole truth about everything..why do you think why are they making movie so much..? They said 100 years ago they will release it,but we are still waiting..TELL ME WHAT DO YOU THINK.. PLEASE :)) sorry for bad english..
Azeroth is the name of the world, originally it was the name of the continent Eastern Kingdoms but that was later retconned, there has never been any indication that it's anything other than a planet. There are at least 5 old gods, but that doesn't mean that there aren't more. The old gods forming a pentagram is not confirmed in any source I've seen. Based on what is known about the old gods, it is extremely unlikely that they would have been part of one giant god, all sources refer to them as several gods. I'm sorry, but that theory doesn't hold up. Most of it is based on nothing and the rest contradicts what we know from the established lore. Also, the movie isn't going to have any big revelations about the nature of Azeroth or other lore aspects, it's a retelling of the story of the first war between orcs and humans.
There isn't much, but there is established lore that contradicts some of your statements. If you want to come up with a theory, you should at least base it on something we already know about the lore set by Blizzard. Also, whatever happened before the old gods has nothing to do with my comment or your own theory.
Johnny Hellström Maybe all we know is lie..and + this C'thun=Cthulhu, Yogg'Saron=Yog'Sothoth Azeroth=Azathoth Nozdormu entered the Well of Eternity, to see what was at its heart. He flew into the Well for hours (supposedly) and found nothing... that is, until, tendrils emerged from the darkness and pulled him deeper, where he could see a mouth that must have been linked to a monster so big, Nozdormu looked like an ant by comparison, if not smaller. Nozdormu barely escaped. Eventually, this Old God woke up, eating half the world, turning Azeroth into what it is today, before it was banished back into the well, which is now the Maelstrom. Guess what the name of the biggest, most monstrous Elder God in Lovecraft's universe is called: Azathoth.
AnimeHDTV. The old god lore is heavily inspired by the works of H.P. Lovecraft, but the names are not directly transposed. They took a lot of names from various sources, for example is Anduin the name of a river in Middle Earth.
If that's been confirmed then I would love to see a source. Last I heard was a confirmation that anything but an old god was under Tirisfal. I'm not sure if the old gods have an assigned roll or if it just sounds cool.
I think when the vision says rebuild the final Titan it means purify Sargeras, rebuild him or make him see the light and use the Burning Legion to fight the Old Gods out of the world.
It IS important to note that all the Titan Tech is very computerized. Its possible that the Titans themselves have a very "scientific' was of speaking. And would thus use a word like "rebuild" which is practically "re-originate" which they HAVE used before. Ergo, Maybe.
Love your work. I am obsessed with everything lore related to the Warcraft universe. There's do much depth to it and it's hard to wrap my head around all of it sometimes and videos like this always help. Much appreciated.
i feel like in the future our characters could receive some sort of backstory where we are connected to the titans, and how they could have empowed a few great heroes from azeroth to hold the planet from the corruption of sargarus. they could have done it in order to show sargarus back to the light, because he left the light and order for chaos and destruction because it was hard for him to believe that they can restore order to the whole universe, but these empowere heroes show sargarus that its the same way with darkness and chaos. kinda like when you make an old girlfriend jealous with a new one because secretly you love your ex.
This series earned you a new sub, sir. I HATE it when there's a question I don't know the answer to/a story that I don't know the ending to. You've helped me immensely with learning what I look for in the WoW lore. Thanks bud =)
That's the cutscene after doing all the quests with the 4 students in both the Krasarang Wilds and Valley of the Four Winds. Believe it's called Savior of Stoneplow
About Titans not killing Old Gods. I think that they didn't kill them because if will actually destroy the Azeroth. But if they would receive that signal from Ulduar, they will come and reshape the Azeroth. They won't destoy it, they will just wipe everything on it, and create it anew.
James Markham but one thing i have been thinking about is that why did the titans just capture the old gods and transported to a diffrent world and there they imprisoned them there? would seem a easier way but perhaps it says something about that in the WoW books? i have just started reading so i do not know. :)
This could have been a full-featured film. I have never heard the story of the Titans, the Old Gods and theories between them explained so well. My deepest thanks for your video Nobbel. They taught me a lot.
Hmm as of now Bolvar is chilling on his frozen throne. I might do a video on him if they make him part of the next expansion or possibly in a different video. He's on the list!
The one with the night elf is from the classic World of Warcraft cinematic. You can find it ingame by going to the log in screen, on the right you see a button named cinematics. Click there and click on classic. ^_^
This was great. Finally gives background of wow in a concise consumable manner. The bit with yogg seron memories makes sense now along with all the other stories mentioned.
It is an interesting theory, WoW claims there. The "curse of flesh" means, that our mortality is a curse. The gift, we praise, Life itself, which we got only once and which is given to us from a higher power (what is what most people believe in) and we share for a reason... This life is only the CURSE. The plan was immortality. If you take a look at our planet, our world, and how much we lost because of stupid leaders and stuff... Think of what we could have got if there would have been no death overall. We could've invented new things. People like Einstein would've had many lifespans to create and find new things... And maybe we would have seen what happens after more than thousand years, from one stone thrown into a sea... The sheer EVOLUTION... We could have seen all that until now... If you may think a bit more about that, this could be very interesting... Nice theory you got there, Blizzard...
Well, in Warcraft you can sort of see things from the perspective of the followers of the Old God's. The Titans made so many mortal races as fragile constructs easily corrupted. Doomed to be perfect and immortal and ignored. Or Mortal, changing and dead. While if you look at Cataclym, what are the old gods doing? Giving the Tol'vir back their immortality. Giving those "worthy" the ability to ascend to a pure Elemental form to transcend death (and thus the end of the world).
SonofGrizzlyAdams That is another perspective. I was just curious about the Gedankenexperiment (this is actually a german word, roflcopter, did look it up to be sure!) what life would be if it was planned to be immortal.... You know? I did not try to start the discussion about what the Titans thought or the Old Gods do... But this one you mentioned is very interesting, too...
Well of Eternity was a pool of water placed by the titans. It contained strong magical powers and is speculated to be used to jumpstart the evolution of the races of Azeroth. Vale of Eternal Blossoms is a testing area of the titans, like Ungoro crater where they could test with their creations without messing up things in the world. It's speculated that the Vale contains the same sort of water as the Well of Eternity.
The more i think of the possibilities with this, combined with comments and articles from other sites... man, there is no words, no words to explain the explosion my brain just got, just... WOW Subscribed for sure, these videos simply are amazing, and mindblowingly awesome!
Hey Nobbel a big thank you for doing all these videos. I stopped playing awhile back but always loved the lore of Warcraft. Watching your video I know much more about this wonderful game then I did before. Thanks!!
"I do not believe that you can correct this domed course, but you have earned the right to try." I feel a chill down my spine everytime I hear that line, it's so powerful.
When you read the Velen's vision, my heart started beating faster. So thanks very much for the videos, you're doing a great work and a great help with the lore :)
They would feel its power, much like Anduin feels it. I'm not up to speed with elven lore, but as far as I know they have an unlimited supply now in the form of a restored sunwell. They still lust for magic, but they can feed it with that well.
I'm not sure if any Pandaren besides Chen are part of the story, but if they are they will be like him...Pandaren from the Wandering Isle searcing for adventure.
Hey Nobbel. I really enjoy your Lore Videos. They don't make me play WoW again because it's a neverending cicle of farming, fighting the same Boss several times and unbalaced. But I enjoy warcraft Lore a heck of a Lot and I would love to hear my favourite Storyline from YOU! The tragic, the heroism, the atmosphere, the soundtracks are just amazing: Arthas Menethil - Prince of Lordearon - Lich King of the Scourge
I think the puzzlebox is one of the best blizzard troll items, but they did use quotes from the box for the realm of Y'shaarj so who knows :o I can say for certain that it has been confirmed that Tirisfal does not have an old god.
When it comes to titans & old gods, we have bits and pieces of lore. When it comes to the celestials or Elune or Loa, we have even less. I don't think they're created by titans, simpy because there is no lore behind it. They created the world, they created some of the races but nothing that says "We created demigods". Who did? No clue but I'll add this to my request list and we might cover it in the future!
Hey Nobbel! I just wanted to let you know I love your lore videos, one can tell that you put a lot into them. I would really like to see a video about Sylvanas, since her story is fairly interesting. Keep it up! :D
I really hope you read this comment. I've been trying to read lore and understand it cause I love kinda love it, but you make it so clear and sound just that awesome I have thought it would sound. I love your videos and you must keep on making them. All my support! Cheers!
Well the theory is Pre-Mop as you can see by not having Pandaria on the map so it's not accurate anymore. The theory was that the old gods appeared in a pentagram. Yogg-Saron top in Northrend - C'Thun on the left - N'zoth in the middle? It's from a tinfoil hat theory on WoWInsider, quite fun to read at times.
I have NEVER been into the lore or WoW. I never took in interest in trying to figure it all out. But I LOVE watching your videos and learninga bout it. Plz keep doing this. its very entertaining. =) watched all 3 parts back to back
Thinking about things like these with the old gods, titans and similar things is like thinking about how the real universe was created, your head just starts spinning. It really is a unique feeling.
I couldn't find any clear information about that. It's possible that they are related to the furbolgs or created by the Mogu or something completely different.
Thank you :) Hmm...It's possible that Sargeras is infected by old gods, but I doubt that it's the 5th old god from Azeroth. Sargeras only briefly appeared on our world, never with his full power. He also only appeared after the well of eternity was created, so after the old gods were already imprisoned.
You're correct on that, I like the idea of the Titan Tyr being there. Just after checking a bit up on it, I really would love to see him still being somewhere in-game not too late.
Your English is fine ;) and we have no idea what's beneath Tirisfall. Could it perhaps be the final resting place of the watcher Tyr? We now know that his hand got bitten off by Galekrond, perhaps it slowly infected his corpse, causing those above to go crazy. Or maybe it's the location of the fallen titan, or the final titan or ....Who knows!
Dude your awesome! This was REALLY good! I palyed since warchief 1 and i know nearby all of the story , and i gotta say! this oppened my eyes! Keep it up!!!!!
Well we never defeated N'zoth, just his puppet Deathwing. We've never even seen him (part 2). The tentacle beast in twilight highlands is just a servant of the old gods called Iso'rath.
Judging by the path that they're sending Sylvanas on...I think we will see a scourge/LK story in the future. Kel'thuzad, Bolvar, Sylvanas...I can see it happen!
Your conclusion gave me goosebumps. That would be a truly epic and fitting end to a game such as WoW. All that arrayed against Sargeras and the Burning Legion.
thank you for this video! brilliant, i thought i knew alot of lore but now i understand so much more, and i love the idea of fighting along side the titans as equals. would be great!
just... Subscribed. So much information man. It was too difficult to understand the pandaria story and this "fallen" or dead titan because i never played MoP before (just a little) but for sure you give so much infos out there. keep it up! Can you please make a video discussing the new expansion and what is goin on with the "time changed" thing? Thanks so much !
I heard a rumor they were gonna make a Warcraft movie.. Well after watching ALOT of your lore videos, i've seen the best Warcraft movie ever possible to create =) Thanks alot for you effort mate, Keep it up that amazing work. Its totaly breathtakeing lissening to your Lore theories......and facts for that matter :D
Affraid it's not explained where they came from. Could be created by the titans, or by the Mogu or an evolution from Furbolgs like the Murlocs who evolved into the Jinyu.
Your videos are beautiful.This very video is the only thing that made me happy this day,i got an f in math and the weather is rainy.Basically this video is the only thing that makes this day a pretty good day :) Thank you..
I'm not sure if Sargeras is aware of the Old Gods and I'm not sure if the Old Gods are capable of working together. They're beings of chaos. I am sure that it was not corrupted by the Old Gods.
My mind is blown by this i started reading the books, and Im lost on certian parts because they seem to go back and further but you giving me this general board spectrum of things clear so much. I never took the lore serious in WoW because of this, but now that you just cleared up sooo many questions i feel i need to befriend you and get you a pizza and a beer.
WoW history is amazing... You have empty spaces for your self, such as the time between Arthas becoming a paladin and him at Stratholme... But when you take the Titans and the Old Gods you just... You get so into it...
Wow's lore is so amazing and..... it has litteraly no end. Thanks Nobbel your videos are awesome, you explain very understandable as narrator. Now i understand why blizz doesn't make a movie.... :D
This was great. Thank you. As a noob who is learning the lore, I really appreciate a condensed version that I can take a look at. It's a lot to take in though.
From something I read from Blizzard, there was suppose to be another Old god centric raid in Cataclysm, but it was cut because of how mixed the launch was received.
I do not :-/ All I can tell you is that Trolls have been around since nearly the dawn of time. As Bwonsamdi puts it: "The Loa came before the Troll. Your father be asking what trolls were called before they were Trolls. I be asking what they were called before that, or before that". Safe to say, Trolls are one of the ancient races.
Ow aye it's a fun item...I just don't believe it holds the magical secrets some of the theoriests outhere believe ;) Kinda like the Nat Pagle quest for the Ashbringer back in classic.
funny thing is that in Legion, blizzard reveals that the pantheon was killed by Sargeras, and that the final titan that they're talking about is the planet of Azeroth.
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Anyone looking to understand wow lore... I swear your videos are the empirically best authority. Separating fact from speculation and opinion, following every story true without going on burgeoning tangents. Well done, sir. I know it's not much, but one more subscriber for you lol.
I will eventually. I already made one of the soundfiles for 5.2 so I will make a new one when either I finish my questline ingame or when new soundfiles are released :)
Just now I realize how raiding is much more fun when you know the story behind the places you're going and the bosses you are fighting.
I wish I would've figured that out four years ago too, lol! I'm just getting it now... Better late than never I suppose.
literally me in BfA. So caught up in the story!
Well aren’t you guys just in time..next expac for sure is old gods!
Haha first off, thank you for your nice comments! ^_^ My favorite speculation I wrote myself and The prophecy of Velen was part of his short story (see description). Blizzard tweeted that they have decided on a new warchief. Who will it be? Anyone's guess. I think Anduin is one of the few still standing who could fullfill the roll of being neutral.
I don't play wow but love the storylines and lore
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Me too. The lore is really interesting.
In part 1 (or 2) there is a photo of numbers of galaxies showing Aiur / Char etc with Azeroth next to them. I was like, OMG. Are they going to clash sooner or later?
I play guild wars 2 like I said I like the lore in wow thats it
And who want to pay 15$ each month.
I think the answer would be: millions of people that play the game.
Q: Is there truly an Old God underneath the Tirisfal Glade?
A: Nope! There’s something incredibly unsettling there, but it’s not an Old God. It isn’t recommended to go digging through the Glades, though.
I'll place a link in the description for the source
"A vision where heroes will be born in the fire of battle. They will struggle, they will fight. Some will fall to darkness, some will embrace the light."
The chills...
I read all the comments and thank you so much for taking the time to make one! I'll do my best to keep delivering the lore ^_^
so with the final theory... all of the azeroth champions are meant to be as powerful or close to the titans themselves to help them out saving the universe... that might mean we will get out of azeroth not only to Draenor, but also many other planets enslaved by the Legion, it gives us a lot of potential for the next, amazing expansions to come :)
Anyone who takes this much time and dedication to inform us casuals on the lore of the game has my respect. Thank you.
The lore states that destroying the Old Gods would destroy Azeroth too. Is it possible Azeroth itself is an old god? I mean they are all named after things from the Cthulhu mythos, and there is something named Azathoth in the Cthulhu mythos...
C'thun - Cthulhu, Yogg Saron - Yogg Sathoth, Azeroth - Azathoth. You just blew my mind. That would be amazing! Azathoth was the chief deity in Cthulhu mythos, the most powerful of them all. Who better to be the final boss of WoW, besides Sargeras, than Azeroth his/herself. The very fucking ground you play on.
1,000 nopes, I'm out.
***** the 1,000 nopes was a joke as in "oh shit the world we play on could be an Old God that's awesome but terrifying". You know when people see something scary in a game and are just like "nope" and turn around.
I think that the idea of Azeroth itself being the final boss would be spectacular.
Good job on misinterpreting a pop culture joke and calling someone a fuck stick, imbecile.
Byne The true child of light and darkness. Azeroth, the last Titan!
I'll see if I can find anything interesting about it and place it in my upcomming "Story of Arthas" video.
Hi, i really like all three parts, are you going to do a follow up soon?
There are a ton of sources where you can find additional lore, novel/wowpedia/wowiki/know your lore/etc. There is always speculation on what's to come next, but usually they keep future lore locked before the patch is released. If you want to know more about the story in a timeline I would recommend checking out The Story of Warcraft on the WoW website. I'll place a link in the description.
I'd love to get to know more about An'Qiraj and the nerubians to be honest :)
They said that the Nerubians were worshipping something in their city, and there was an Old-Godlike being there in Warcraft 3. Fifth God possibly?
Dragon Wyne Speculation: The (Non-Scourge) Nerubians were likely still loyal to C'thun even after the Aqir schism. They appear to have little to no affinity for Yogg Saron and based on the lore of the Klaxxi, the Qiraji and the Nerubians being "sister kingdoms".Bugs were C'thun's thing even if the Klaxxi were down with Y'shaarj. While Yogg had a thing for the "faceless ones" (Those tentacle monstrosities).
Cody Crawford c'thun had power over faceless ones as well.
diamondsofsix I hope Azul’nerub becomes an actual zone to explore. With NPCs and have quests. Instead of just a small dungeon.
Thank you for taking the time to let me know, glad to hear it! :D
Velen's vision basically describes raid groups lol.
***** Raiding and power creep. We clear the old raids solo now and the equipment and mounts and challenges get more ridiculous with every expansion.
Wow! Clappy clappy, the way you told the last speculation bought a tear to my eye.
If you look at Ra-den you see pieces of his flesh cut off. Were they used as the "flesh of the makers" to make the bell?
I'm still a lore newbie but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
That was awe inspiring and amazing... So much food-for-thought that I'm starving for more.
I love the way you piece together the information that only the true loremasters can make connections to. Most of us miss that info in-game and regard it as just another side-quest for xp ;P I especially loved the ending, after the tinfoil hat disclaimer. I'm wondering where you got those amazing lines from! (Velen's and the parts you labeled as your favorite speculation). I'm assuming excerpts from books?
Also, people think pandas are nice irl but keep in mind that pandas are bears and bears will fuck you up.
MoonMoonFang Bears rek face.
+MoonMoonFang I don't usually kill things.. but when I do it's because they were things and I'm a bear.
Tahroo Oh noes it's a bear! Quick! Run and hide!
Epicness is the word that could explain the last theory. You've got a wonderful voice as the narrator and your work is inmense and hard-worked.... It's a pitty i cannot click "like" more than once, but you deserve more than you have.
Great job!
PLEASE READ MY THEORY :)
OK how we know there are 5 old gods(last one is unknown),but i say there are 6..6 one is AZEROTH..and i don't mean planet Azeroth..i mean Azeroth as a creature..he is probably sealed in middle of planet..and how we know there are 5 other gods,and from where did they come from ?I say Azeroth divided himself in 5 parts so they would do something to release Azeroth..but they were imprisoned..so they had to get their servants to release them from prison..and there is some theory about pentagram and i say 5 gods make pentagram and Azeroth will be released ..but 1 god is still missing and he is sealed in Maelstrom(well of eternity) and old gods couldn't find way to release N'zoth so they tried to make pentagram without him so they used Tyr-(tirisfal glades)-tyr's fall..his mind was all in whispers from Yogg Saron..and when old gods finished pentagram with 4 old gods and 1 titan servant they tried to release Azeroth,but it didn't work again..so they had to find way to release N'Zoth..so they tried to call Sargeras to destroy Maelstorm but they stopped him,so old gods tried to do something with lich king and with him tried to destroy everything..but it failed again,and in the end they tried to use Deathwing to destroy maelstrom but again it failed..so they need N'zoth to finish pentagram and somehow release Azeroth..Nozdormu entered the Well of Eternity, to see what was at its heart. He flew into the Well for hours (supposedly) and found nothing... that is, until, tendrils emerged from the darkness and pulled him deeper, where he could see a mouth that must have been linked to a monster so big, Nozdormu looked like an ant by comparison, if not smaller. Nozdormu barely escaped. Eventually, this Old God woke up, eating half the world, turning Azeroth into what it is today, before it was banished back into the well, which is now the Maelstrom. Guess what the name of the biggest, most monstrous Elder God in Lovecraft's universe is called: Azathoth.C'thun=Cthulhu, Yogg'Saron=Yog'Sothoth...they say N'Zoth has something to do with Emerald Dream..and there are stories connected with Cthulhu called Dream Cycle..i know it's bit off from what's actually happening in the Azeroth and Blizzard is saying opposite or something what i didn't mention here and i know that mine is nowhere near close from what's actually happening...but maybe Blizzard wants for you to know that what's happening on Azeroth up until now was true..maybe it was all lie and in last expansion or maybe even IN MOVIE they tell whole truth about Azeroth..they made you believe in this,but when you least expect they just tell you whole truth about everything..why do you think why are they making movie so much..? They said 100 years ago they will release it,but we are still waiting..TELL ME WHAT DO YOU THINK.. PLEASE :)) sorry for bad english..
Azeroth is the name of the world, originally it was the name of the continent Eastern Kingdoms but that was later retconned, there has never been any indication that it's anything other than a planet.
There are at least 5 old gods, but that doesn't mean that there aren't more.
The old gods forming a pentagram is not confirmed in any source I've seen.
Based on what is known about the old gods, it is extremely unlikely that they would have been part of one giant god, all sources refer to them as several gods.
I'm sorry, but that theory doesn't hold up. Most of it is based on nothing and the rest contradicts what we know from the established lore.
Also, the movie isn't going to have any big revelations about the nature of Azeroth or other lore aspects, it's a retelling of the story of the first war between orcs and humans.
Johnny Hellström You don't know what happened bilion years before old gods and titans...nor do i..
There isn't much, but there is established lore that contradicts some of your statements.
If you want to come up with a theory, you should at least base it on something we already know about the lore set by Blizzard.
Also, whatever happened before the old gods has nothing to do with my comment or your own theory.
Johnny Hellström Maybe all we know is lie..and + this C'thun=Cthulhu, Yogg'Saron=Yog'Sothoth Azeroth=Azathoth
Nozdormu entered the Well of Eternity, to see what was at its heart. He flew into the Well for hours (supposedly) and found nothing... that is, until, tendrils emerged from the darkness and pulled him deeper, where he could see a mouth that must have been linked to a monster so big, Nozdormu looked like an ant by comparison, if not smaller. Nozdormu barely escaped. Eventually, this Old God woke up, eating half the world, turning Azeroth into what it is today, before it was banished back into the well, which is now the Maelstrom. Guess what the name of the biggest, most monstrous Elder God in Lovecraft's universe is called: Azathoth.
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The old god lore is heavily inspired by the works of H.P. Lovecraft, but the names are not directly transposed. They took a lot of names from various sources, for example is Anduin the name of a river in Middle Earth.
If that's been confirmed then I would love to see a source. Last I heard was a confirmation that anything but an old god was under Tirisfal. I'm not sure if the old gods have an assigned roll or if it just sounds cool.
I think when the vision says rebuild the final Titan it means purify Sargeras, rebuild him or make him see the light and use the Burning Legion to fight the Old Gods out of the world.
It IS important to note that all the Titan Tech is very computerized. Its possible that the Titans themselves have a very "scientific' was of speaking. And would thus use a word like "rebuild" which is practically "re-originate" which they HAVE used before. Ergo, Maybe.
Love your work. I am obsessed with everything lore related to the Warcraft universe. There's do much depth to it and it's hard to wrap my head around all of it sometimes and videos like this always help. Much appreciated.
i feel like in the future our characters could receive some sort of backstory where we are connected to the titans, and how they could have empowed a few great heroes from azeroth to hold the planet from the corruption of sargarus. they could have done it in order to show sargarus back to the light, because he left the light and order for chaos and destruction because it was hard for him to believe that they can restore order to the whole universe, but these empowere heroes show sargarus that its the same way with darkness and chaos. kinda like when you make an old girlfriend jealous with a new one because secretly you love your ex.
its sargeras not sargarus dummy
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This series earned you a new sub, sir. I HATE it when there's a question I don't know the answer to/a story that I don't know the ending to. You've helped me immensely with learning what I look for in the WoW lore. Thanks bud =)
End of legion expac at the end Calling it :D
That's the cutscene after doing all the quests with the 4 students in both the Krasarang Wilds and Valley of the Four Winds. Believe it's called Savior of Stoneplow
About Titans not killing Old Gods. I think that they didn't kill them because if will actually destroy the Azeroth. But if they would receive that signal from Ulduar, they will come and reshape the Azeroth. They won't destoy it, they will just wipe everything on it, and create it anew.
That is what the whole point of the alagon boss fight is -_-
James Markham but one thing i have been thinking about is that why did the titans just capture the old gods and transported to a diffrent world and there they imprisoned them there? would seem a easier way but perhaps it says something about that in the WoW books? i have just started reading so i do not know. :)
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The Old Gods are tied to Azeroth itself. I don't think you can transport them to another world or destroy them without harming the Azeroth.
This could have been a full-featured film.
I have never heard the story of the Titans, the Old Gods and theories between them explained so well.
My deepest thanks for your video Nobbel.
They taught me a lot.
Um, Nobbel, we wounded the Old Gods, not killed them. Remember it was just the 'EYE' of C'thun, the 'MOUTH' of Yogg-Saron.
Stinkie Pai is this true???
Hmm as of now Bolvar is chilling on his frozen throne. I might do a video on him if they make him part of the next expansion or possibly in a different video. He's on the list!
13:18 YOU BETTER RAISE THAT NUMBER 5 TO THE TOP OF EASTERN KINGDOMS. WE KNOW DAMN WELL THE NEXXT ONE IS GNA BE IN WHISPERING FOREST
Yeah except that was debunked
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The one with the night elf is from the classic World of Warcraft cinematic. You can find it ingame by going to the log in screen, on the right you see a button named cinematics. Click there and click on classic. ^_^
Velens prophecy could mean WoD. and that in WoD we might encounter burning legion or even Old gods.
Yes please
Wow! Now that we are in WoD you truely guest good! :) Respect to you man ^^
It was confirmed that we would spend a large portion of wod fighting the burning legion when wod was announced
Blöami thanks, hope WoD turns out to be massive fun
This was great. Finally gives background of wow in a concise consumable manner. The bit with yogg seron memories makes sense now along with all the other stories mentioned.
It is an interesting theory, WoW claims there.
The "curse of flesh" means, that our mortality is a curse. The gift, we praise, Life itself, which we got only once and which is given to us from a higher power (what is what most people believe in) and we share for a reason... This life is only the CURSE. The plan was immortality.
If you take a look at our planet, our world, and how much we lost because of stupid leaders and stuff...
Think of what we could have got if there would have been no death overall. We could've invented new things. People like Einstein would've had many lifespans to create and find new things... And maybe we would have seen what happens after more than thousand years, from one stone thrown into a sea... The sheer EVOLUTION... We could have seen all that until now...
If you may think a bit more about that, this could be very interesting... Nice theory you got there, Blizzard...
Well, in Warcraft you can sort of see things from the perspective of the followers of the Old God's. The Titans made so many mortal races as fragile constructs easily corrupted. Doomed to be perfect and immortal and ignored. Or Mortal, changing and dead. While if you look at Cataclym, what are the old gods doing? Giving the Tol'vir back their immortality. Giving those "worthy" the ability to ascend to a pure Elemental form to transcend death (and thus the end of the world).
SonofGrizzlyAdams That is another perspective. I was just curious about the Gedankenexperiment (this is actually a german word, roflcopter, did look it up to be sure!) what life would be if it was planned to be immortal.... You know? I did not try to start the discussion about what the Titans thought or the Old Gods do...
But this one you mentioned is very interesting, too...
***** Where have you got this definition from?
Well of Eternity was a pool of water placed by the titans. It contained strong magical powers and is speculated to be used to jumpstart the evolution of the races of Azeroth.
Vale of Eternal Blossoms is a testing area of the titans, like Ungoro crater where they could test with their creations without messing up things in the world. It's speculated that the Vale contains the same sort of water as the Well of Eternity.
I wish I could, but I don't know... best to check the forums! My pleasure, glad you enjoy them ^_^
Fabulous set of videos! Love listening to your interpretation of the lore of warcraft!!!!
Deffo one of my favourite channels on YT!!!
Currently working on a ltitle speculation video, but I always believed Ra-den was hinting to Y'shaarj which we found in the next patch.
The more i think of the possibilities with this, combined with comments and articles from other sites... man, there is no words, no words to explain the explosion my brain just got, just... WOW
Subscribed for sure, these videos simply are amazing, and mindblowingly awesome!
the last few minutes leave me really excited for the future of the game's universe... thanks a lot for this
Hey Nobbel a big thank you for doing all these videos. I stopped playing awhile back but always loved the lore of Warcraft. Watching your video I know much more about this wonderful game then I did before. Thanks!!
"I do not believe that you can correct this domed course, but you have earned the right to try." I feel a chill down my spine everytime I hear that line, it's so powerful.
When you read the Velen's vision, my heart started beating faster. So thanks very much for the videos, you're doing a great work and a great help with the lore :)
The prohecy at the end gave me such an adrenaline rush! Amazing!
They would feel its power, much like Anduin feels it. I'm not up to speed with elven lore, but as far as I know they have an unlimited supply now in the form of a restored sunwell. They still lust for magic, but they can feed it with that well.
I'm not sure if any Pandaren besides Chen are part of the story, but if they are they will be like him...Pandaren from the Wandering Isle searcing for adventure.
Hey Nobbel. I really enjoy your Lore Videos. They don't make me play WoW again because it's a neverending cicle of farming, fighting the same Boss several times and unbalaced. But I enjoy warcraft Lore a heck of a Lot and I would love to hear my favourite Storyline from YOU! The tragic, the heroism, the atmosphere, the soundtracks are just amazing: Arthas Menethil - Prince of Lordearon - Lich King of the Scourge
Haha no, I turn off my actionbars as much as I can when recording the story.
That's your reward once you reach exalted with the Klaxxi. You can do the quests _ dailies in the Dread Wastes.
I think the puzzlebox is one of the best blizzard troll items, but they did use quotes from the box for the realm of Y'shaarj so who knows :o I can say for certain that it has been confirmed that Tirisfal does not have an old god.
When it comes to titans & old gods, we have bits and pieces of lore. When it comes to the celestials or Elune or Loa, we have even less. I don't think they're created by titans, simpy because there is no lore behind it. They created the world, they created some of the races but nothing that says "We created demigods". Who did? No clue but I'll add this to my request list and we might cover it in the future!
Hey Nobbel! I just wanted to let you know I love your lore videos, one can tell that you put a lot into them. I would really like to see a video about Sylvanas, since her story is fairly interesting. Keep it up! :D
I really hope you read this comment. I've been trying to read lore and understand it cause I love kinda love it, but you make it so clear and sound just that awesome I have thought it would sound. I love your videos and you must keep on making them. All my support! Cheers!
amazing! I have always been intressed in the lore of WoW and listed when you "story telling" me this is so amazing thanx!
This titans/old gods lore video needs an update now with n'zoth gone and that we have more information
Well the theory is Pre-Mop as you can see by not having Pandaria on the map so it's not accurate anymore. The theory was that the old gods appeared in a pentagram. Yogg-Saron top in Northrend - C'Thun on the left - N'zoth in the middle? It's from a tinfoil hat theory on WoWInsider, quite fun to read at times.
I have NEVER been into the lore or WoW. I never took in interest in trying to figure it all out. But I LOVE watching your videos and learninga bout it. Plz keep doing this. its very entertaining. =) watched all 3 parts back to back
Thinking about things like these with the old gods, titans and similar things is like thinking about how the real universe was created, your head just starts spinning. It really is a unique feeling.
That's the tour you get once you reach exalted with the Klaxxi in the Dread Wastes.
You mean the part with Cho at the mountain? That's in the Jade Forest.
I couldn't find any clear information about that. It's possible that they are related to the furbolgs or created by the Mogu or something completely different.
Thank you :) Hmm...It's possible that Sargeras is infected by old gods, but I doubt that it's the 5th old god from Azeroth. Sargeras only briefly appeared on our world, never with his full power. He also only appeared after the well of eternity was created, so after the old gods were already imprisoned.
You're correct on that, I like the idea of the Titan Tyr being there.
Just after checking a bit up on it, I really would love to see him still being somewhere in-game not too late.
Your lore videos are impeccable. Love them.
Your English is fine ;) and we have no idea what's beneath Tirisfall. Could it perhaps be the final resting place of the watcher Tyr? We now know that his hand got bitten off by Galekrond, perhaps it slowly infected his corpse, causing those above to go crazy. Or maybe it's the location of the fallen titan, or the final titan or ....Who knows!
I have spend countless hours of reading the lore,and yet im still watching this :D
Dude your awesome! This was REALLY good! I palyed since warchief 1 and i know nearby all of the story , and i gotta say! this oppened my eyes! Keep it up!!!!!
Well we never defeated N'zoth, just his puppet Deathwing. We've never even seen him (part 2). The tentacle beast in twilight highlands is just a servant of the old gods called Iso'rath.
Just subbed yesterday, love your vids! You're doing an amazing job retelling the lore, keep it up!
Judging by the path that they're sending Sylvanas on...I think we will see a scourge/LK story in the future. Kel'thuzad, Bolvar, Sylvanas...I can see it happen!
Your conclusion gave me goosebumps. That would be a truly epic and fitting end to a game such as WoW. All that arrayed against Sargeras and the Burning Legion.
thank you for this video! brilliant, i thought i knew alot of lore but now i understand so much more, and i love the idea of fighting along side the titans as equals. would be great!
just... Subscribed. So much information man. It was too difficult to understand the pandaria story and this "fallen" or dead titan because i never played MoP before (just a little) but for sure you give so much infos out there. keep it up! Can you please make a video discussing the new expansion and what is goin on with the "time changed" thing? Thanks so much !
I heard a rumor they were gonna make a Warcraft movie..
Well after watching ALOT of your lore videos, i've seen the best Warcraft movie ever possible to create =)
Thanks alot for you effort mate, Keep it up that amazing work. Its totaly breathtakeing lissening to your Lore theories......and facts for that matter :D
Affraid it's not explained where they came from. Could be created by the titans, or by the Mogu or an evolution from Furbolgs like the Murlocs who evolved into the Jinyu.
Your videos are beautiful.This very video is the only thing that made me happy this day,i got an f in math and the weather is rainy.Basically this video is the only thing that makes this day a pretty good day :) Thank you..
you are an EPIC story teller! . u almost made me cry am not sure on which part :D
Covered pretty much all there is with the old gods, but if the seventh sha will show itself then maybe ;)
Thanks for doing this, as a lovecraft fan, I've always been vastly interested in the old gods. Never heard Velen's vision before.
I'm not sure if Sargeras is aware of the Old Gods and I'm not sure if the Old Gods are capable of working together. They're beings of chaos. I am sure that it was not corrupted by the Old Gods.
Thank you! and I don't. The best I can offer with troll lore is my Vol'jin: Shadows of the Horde video.
My mind is blown by this i started reading the books, and Im lost on certian parts because they seem to go back and further but you giving me this general board spectrum of things clear so much. I never took the lore serious in WoW because of this, but now that you just cleared up sooo many questions i feel i need to befriend you and get you a pizza and a beer.
Man I love you so much. Seriously. Great videos don't stop bro.
WoW history is amazing... You have empty spaces for your self, such as the time between Arthas becoming a paladin and him at Stratholme... But when you take the Titans and the Old Gods you just... You get so into it...
Wow's lore is so amazing and..... it has litteraly no end. Thanks Nobbel your videos are awesome, you explain very understandable as narrator. Now i understand why blizz doesn't make a movie.... :D
Been watching your videos mate top notch stuff love all this lore
This was great. Thank you. As a noob who is learning the lore, I really appreciate a condensed version that I can take a look at. It's a lot to take in though.
You mean the tour part where he warns us? If you're exalted talk to Kil'ruk the Wind-Reaver and he should give the option of taking the tour.
From something I read from Blizzard, there was suppose to be another Old god centric raid in Cataclysm, but it was cut because of how mixed the launch was received.
I do not :-/ All I can tell you is that Trolls have been around since nearly the dawn of time. As Bwonsamdi puts it: "The Loa came before the Troll. Your father be asking what trolls were called before they were Trolls. I be asking what they were called before that, or before that". Safe to say, Trolls are one of the ancient races.
I love storys of wow and you kinda are like you tell me story for night so i can dream abaut something :D keep up good work :)
Ow aye it's a fun item...I just don't believe it holds the magical secrets some of the theoriests outhere believe ;) Kinda like the Nat Pagle quest for the Ashbringer back in classic.
Last sha, in the next raid in 5.4, is Sha of Pride, datamined from PTR, has a model as well
It did ;) but no Sargeras didn't imprison old gods. He left the Pantheon before they reached Zeroth.
funny thing is that in Legion, blizzard reveals that the pantheon was killed by Sargeras, and that the final titan that they're talking about is the planet of Azeroth.