I liked it, but the VFX had some distracting lapses in quality. The pacing feels rushed with only 6 episodes unlike the previous seasons having 10 episodes each. I liked that they used Map of the Problematique, Muse really fits the tone of the show.
I got bored on season 4 episode 4 and stopped watching it. It feels like I'm watching the same plot repeatedly. The world is ending and they try to stop it again. I think they should have ended the story in season 3. The ending was not bad, but now it just seems like bad writing. I feel like I wasted my time watching.
Idk if it’s cause I didn’t watch it on Netflix but after episode 1 I watched episode 2 and it left out so much that happened. They only talked about what happened after Ben put merrigold in everyone’s drinks forcing them to get their powers back. They talked about finding the girl they were looking and everything that went crazy when they found her but nothing was shown. I was so confused.
Also, how the hell did Five and Lila spend 7 YEARS in the metro without ever running into anyone, but then right at the end of the world, our Five just conveniently runs into a diner full of Fives who explain the whole plot?
Only thing I can think is that Five wandered so far for so long that he ended up at “the end of the line” where he met the other Five. How that didn’t lead to paradox sickness idk I also wonder which Five left the book of ciphers and why
my guess would be that this diner thing has a natural version of the "paradox proof" thing of the panic room from s3 with 100yr old five. they say that "one of us went and created the commission" so
There was only supposed to be one time line right so all the other time lines have had a apocalypse or is gonna have one so it’s not crazy they didn’t run into anyone it’s crazy that the fives ran so far ahead that there untouched and just chilling
If the apocalypse will always happen wherever they are, then why didn’t the first one happen until Vanya’s powers were activated??! Like shouldn’t the apocalypse have happened as soon as they were born?? And why did the umbrella kids dying stop the apocalypse, since we already know for a fact that there are wayyy more kids born with marigold in the world ☠️. Like the plot holes are insane.😂
@@kiarasessyoin-xo8vf I think it's moreso that the existence of the marigold in the time line is what caused the fractures and so led to constant apocolypses. and I can only assume that the people we follow are the "core" timeline so to speak. but yeah, could have been explained way better
I’m disappointed, I’ll admit. - Luther mentions Sloane maybe twice. He isn’t shown looking for her or mourning - just his usual, cheerful self. - Why couldn’t Viktor just take everyone’s marigold and sacrifice himself? Then only one person has to die instead of everyone. Or Five could’ve gone back in time and stop Ben from ever giving everyone else the marigold, that way the cleanse never would’ve even happened. - So….Diego and Five just die hating each other? With no resolution whatsoever to the love triangle? - Has Klaus just forgotten three seasons of character development or something? - Why did Ray leave? Did the actor just not want to come back for another season? - Weren’t there supposed to be two versions of Ben in that timeline? Why tease it, then not use it? - Also, way to totally waste Ben all season - According to the final shot, there’s still marigold in the world somehow anyway, so in theory, it’ll just start again? Either that, or it’s symbolic, which imo is naff. - so if Claire and the other kids still exist, but Alison, Diego, and Lila never existed, then how does that not create a paradox? - 6 episodes? Seriously?? - Rushed ass season I will concede that Luther in a thong was hilarious, but that’s it.
I was thinking about the exact same things lol. Also it bothered me how much towards the end they would be like “make sure to w kids are on the train” when theoretically the kids will never exist
Okay so the whole Viktor taking everyone’s marigold or five going back in time, wouldn’t have worked. They were ALL born because of the marigold so they all had to go since they only existed because of it for everything to be how it should be. This is why when they didn’t have the powers at the start the multiverse was still all over the place and there were multiple timelines when there was only meant to be one. Even if Viktor had taken one for the team all that would have done was create a post apocalyptic world in that timeline and still have left the others. Same if five had actually gone back and stopped everyone, would have still had all the other five’s all running around that we saw at the end.
Ben and Five were done dirty the most this season. As much of a dick (sparrow) Ben was, he did have potential and he had the opportunity to spend more time and create a bond with the rest of the team but didn’t capitalize on said opportunity until he realized it was too late. That really hurts especially after finding out the circumstances on how he really died in episode 4. As for Five, the whole fling between him and Lila really pissed me off like he OF ALL THE SIBLINGS would NEVER do that to Diego. It literally feels like the writers didn’t know what to do with them. Dare I say they ruined his character. Ben and Five really deserved better, honorable mention I have is Diego, mans really went through it this season 😭
I agree with this, but at the same time I feel like the affair between Lila and Five emphasizes how much the time traveling was affecting them. Five loved his siblings so much and would never do something like that under normal circumstances, but after jumping through time and almost dying so many times in all the different timelines, he just snapped.
@@A_Pink_Fish Yeah you brought up a really good point. But idk I still feel so conflicted with his character after finishing this season (and I’m saying this as someone who loves Five, he’s my favorite character after Klaus & original timeline Ben). I will say tho it was so hard watching him and Diego nag at each other after Lila wanted him back bc it was just so out of character for him but like you said, he probably just had enough and snapped which is unfortunate :/
@@Kye-t1k I agree. Five’s character changed through the seasons because he used to be so desperate to be with his family he didn’t give a sh about anything else. Now he just seems more self centered and that’s where the broody attitude is coming from which makes it so hard to watch 😭 💕 I still love him though. And I agree Klaus is my favorite character too
@@A_Pink_Fish That's what I thought so too but I do feel they could have executed it a lot better. Like I get it, 6 years is a lot and Lila and Five could have definitely gotten together.. BUT the way they did it felt so out of the blue. I know that they hinted it from the earlier episodes but we rooted for Lila and Diego the last season not Lila and Five. They literally just threw away Lila and Diego's relationship and made up this side plot with Lila and Five. We literally felt betrayed. And what's even the point? They all died in the end with their character arcs ruined for no fucking reason.
Loved the show but it kind of lost its touch You can tell Netflix was done with it and just wanted it to end because they’re so many plot holes unresolved and just left there
@hafsaahmed7716 no there were two Ben's at the end of S3 Ben was a Sparrow and Sloane was part of the machine that reset the universe It was even said that at the beginning of season 3 that Hargreaves chose to adopt other children instead of them. Remember many children were born with powers that day he only managed to adopt 7.
@jonathankhan7184 Didn't some guy whose power is similar to Victor killed their mother and caused the grandfather paradox? I remember seeing them mentioning that there was no record of their birth.
Steve Blackman said it was sparrow ben planning the crypto scam called Sparrow bit. i just speculate he went to korea to master the art of scams and crypto😅 but ben also said he didn't mean for it to be a scam but idk🤷🏻♀️
@@random_girl-onyoutube in reality, that entire subplot was scrapped and they shoehorned in the ben scams thing bc Netflix was already finsihed was this show for whatever reason, even tho it makes them tons of money
It's honestly impressive how the season with the least number of episodes... felt the most bloated. So much of what happed felt like it didn't matter at all, and like the writers just had no ideas on what to do.
My thoughts exactly! I usually complain about the shorter seasons, I miss having 12, 16 or more episodes of character development, but this? This could've been a 3 episodes season, without all the needless running around for nothing.
There's probably a really good 2 hour film at the core if you edited out all of the fluff. I don't know why they felt the need to pad it out, 3 seasons and a movie isn't bad.
@@NoNiceIceWait really?? So all the like overall 40 or so kids that had powers didn’t exist? That would explain why they didn’t need those people’s marigolds too in order to have the ending work
it was bittersweet how their orphaned children survived but it also made no sense. If none of them ever existed then the children should have also never existed.
THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE I’M GOING NUTS LOL. Nobody else mentioned that!! Claire and Lila and Diego’s kids should NOT exist! I couldn’t get over that when watching the finale. The whole fucking time they were arguing about “our kids need to be safe”, I wanted to yell at the TV because I didn’t think that made sense. The kids should have ceased to exist when they did. Because they created the kids. Their DNA wouldn’t exist. It shows them at the end playing with Lila’s parents. Lila’s parents would still exist, but who tf they think those kids are?😂I want to go ask them “hey those are your grandkids, right?” “yeah.” “so who’s your kid?” “uhhhh” Ask the kids: “hey, who’s your parents? either one?” “uhhhhh”
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421actually they came with the train They are Lila and Diego kids and their parents Well that means there are other Lila parents in this world but it's another thing
@@ghonking What are you talking about? I know they went on the train. The characters were arguing “oh, well they’ll be safe here, even after we’ll cease to exist”. Which doesn’t make any sense. That’s Lila and Diego’s kids. When they cease to exist, SO DO THEIR KIDS, because their kids and a part of them, with their DNA. Same thing with Claire. I said Lila’s parents would still be alive, because Lila not existing has nothing to do with them not existing, unlike her kids. There is literally no way Claire and Lila and Diego’s kids existing still is NOT a plot hole, unless they’re all adopted.
maybe it's just me but I thought that was the only thing that made sense in the entire season. they were outside of the true timeline as the others collapsed so they were then inserted into the true one. they exist because they were in a protective bubble while the collapse was happening and inserted into the timeline. ben and jennifer may even have helped make it happen as well since they are the ones who reset things and clearly still exist in one form or another.
@@ka850411 I’m pretty sure the stated reason, or the one the show tries to make us believe is that the Marigold gave Victor a warped version of his powers. Five, Lila, Allison, and Victor all have different powers, or so the show makes you think. What with Five having multidimensional travel, Lila having laser eyes, Victor having kinetic and luminous energy creation, and Allison having telekinesis. Though the other half of the Academy having their same powers & Five and Lila regaining their old abilities. Still makes about zero sense. You can really tell that the only six episodes really hammered the show in the balls.
This season was undoubtedly rushed, why is Luther apeified when it was a serum that caused the appearance? He should've just had his super human abilties returned...
Was thinking the same thing cause when i first saw that i thought aren't his powers tied to his powers and not his ape appearence but they probably did that so they could have a bullet proof character
Was confused on that too, either I’m just dumb and not understanding why, or it’s a plot hole. Assuming a plot hole, because they just wanted a bullet proof character. When it showed he was a gorilla, I immediately got confused on why. He shouldn’t be. That was when he was an adult, when Reginald injected the chimp serum into his system after he went on a solo mission and got hurt. That literally doesn’t have to do with his actual powers/marigold he was born with lol. Ig it could be because everyone’s powers were slightly different, but eh
Dude riiiight and it seemed like it was going to be a big thing. So he was just chilling in Korea this whole time? Also where was Sloane? She was apart of the machine that reset the universe, was she just wiped from existence? Then why are there two Ben's running around?
@@stonerecords8174then we should’ve seen him this season. Only 5 and Lyla were the only ones able to get into the subway. Everyone else had to be transported by Lyla.
@@ChineduOpara But that one gets a pass. It was a montage of shots over the course of 6 and a half years. Maybe she took 3 months to heal. Who knows. The bullet Victor took though... There's no explaining that one away
@キラキラくりくり頭 Hmm I don't think that's how the shots went. Watch it again. It was literally a reverse shot of the same moment, not a montage. Glaring continuity error.
Holy fuck this season was bad. I know nothing of movie making and cinema and even incould tell that this was absolutely atrocious. So many plot holes, so many unanswered questions, so much NONSENSE!
Baby shark made me wanna kill myself. Overplayed that. Everyone throws up in a van and then Klaus just chills in there all afternoon? Then it’s never mentioned again?
Honestly, I liked this season WAY better than Season 3, but the whole Lila and 5 situation was SO WEIRD and Unnecessary, it literally could have had them deepening their bond as "siblings" or just become closer friends. It just did not sit right. The ending was unexpected but somewhat appreciated, but I wish it was a more clean cut story line, and they did a full 10 episode season to wrap it up nicely vs just 6. Edit: Also, Ray was such an upstanding character in season 2, it sucks that they just had him "Walk out" on Allison and Claire.
I think this season showed that even though the siblings were able to finally have a normal life, they were still unhappy. None of them were meant to have a normal, happy life. Not even Reggie! They were going to keep having to prevent the apocalypse because they were the cause of the apocalypse. The only way to stop it was to reset the timeline one last time. I love a good ending,😊
Sorry, Me too was weirded by 5 and Lila's relationship but it come one, They were there for almost 7 years, only the two of them, no way there won't be a spark. Even Lila easily fell in love with Diego in season 2. Also the fact, 5 was a better lover than Diego and they had more connection due to them being under cover agents throughout season 2 to 4. So it's a no question why the fell for each other in the first place. But then again, I don't support their relationship and never will be, The season was rushed and I hate how they did it.
@@BraidyBrownMaybe because their friendship and later romance began from childhood? The Five and Lila romance starts shortly after Lila decides to separate from Diego and was borderline cheating at first.
The ending was kinda sad but kinda bad but dont blame the writers. The show was supposed to have 7 seasons but was cancelled so season 4 was the only way to wrap things up with only 6 episodes. The result was good considering with what they had to work with but its bad anyways because the show felt incomplete. Which also explains why sloane and the other ben were missing all season.
You have to blame the writers a little though. THAT was how they decided to end the show? The Lila and Five relationship? Klaus being tortured elsewhere almost the entire season AGAIN? The Gene and Jean plot line being almost completely disjointed from the main plot. Sure they had time restraints, but come on, anything would be a better ending than an ending worse than “it was all a dream.” This is literally “none of the events in the show mattered nor happened.”
I never liked the "Oh the show got cut short so don't blame the writers" argument. Like sure they couldn't tell the story they wanted to tell but they still could've came up with a something better
@@AlbinoHammerwhy are you offended by story arcs that track with character traits? Lila is literally crazy, Klaus ALWAYS finds himself in trouble, and Five NEEDED a romance before the series ended. Try and do that, with 7 Seasons turning into 4, plus an entirely CUT budget. Lol people on the internet be weird af
@@BraidyBrownFive NEEDING a romance is not a character trait. Yes, Klaus finding himself in trouble is basically his thing but they did not need to explore it for as long as they did, especially taking time away from their last 6 episodes. It isnt 7 seasons turning into 1, its 3 seasons into 7 seasons ending abruptly. I guarantee you many people dont even know it was planned to have that many seasons. Everybody accepted that this would be the very last.
@@BraidyBrownI get the sentiment, but I don't entirely agree with this statement. Personally, I do feel that we lost some of the character growth we've gotten in the past seasons. Characters still (rightfully) have flaws and old patterns, but I can't help but feel like some of the precious development was thrown out the window to serve the extreme short timespan the writers had to wrap it up in 6 episodes (hinting at Klaus here). Very little that the characters did (aside from finding Jennifer and igniting that connection between her and Ben), contributed to the plot. Stuff just happened and they were just somewhere doing something somewhat related or completely disconnected from it, with the idea of it exposing something we (in my opinion) didn't need this much runtime for to expose (for example) that the CIA was part of the cult and so on. Sparrow Ben's moment with Viktor at the end was also undeserved. The dude was an ass at the end of season 3, spent most of his time in prison in the gap between 3&4, and wasn't any closer to his alternate siblings when he got out of prison. Almost (what feels like) immediately after, he runs off to/with Jennifer because their connection forces him to. He doesn't have any real bonding time with any of the siblings, even on a little bit deeper than superficial level. And honestly? Given the lack of timespan did Five really *need* a romance? It could just as much have been him getting closer to his dysfunctional family. To sum things up, I still enjoyed a lot of the visuals and some of the interactions. But the lack of time definitely showed in the result. I'm glad we got to see an ending. Part of me, however, can't help but feel like there were different, more substantial, things they could have done in order to reach the same conclusion. That said, this opinion is coming from a series enjoyer, and not someone who has read the comics. So maybe there might be a difference in how much we know about the lore and which character beats series-enjoyers haven't been exposed to compared to those who've read and enjoyed the comics. Plus, everyone's own experience in how they've received this season is valid. The circumstances weren't perfect, but at least it wasn't fully open ended.
Funny, if The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones movie had made its sequel which was already greenlit, City of Ashes, then Robert Sheehan would've been buried AGAIN because his character gets turned into a vampire in the second book.
The funny thing is the the actor appears in another show called Misfits where he dies and is buried only to wake up in the casket to discover that he’s immortal.
Probably just assume they were born by other parents but we’re still essentially the same people. I know, doesn’t really make sense. Would have been too grim if they all also just disappeared.
@@laughslapproductions4690 there was no need for the monster in the last episode they could have just gone with something similar to what they did with when they mate for the first time in motel
BIGGEST plothole for me was, original timeline Hargreeves sent the team to kill Jennifer, Ben and her came into contact so he killed them both. World still ended because of Vanya but beside the point, she and the team still had Marigold. This timeline Hargreeves already knew Jennifer had Durango and had her secluded in her own town but none of the team had Marigold. Why didnt he just kill Jennifer with his private army during the 6 year timeskip anyways just in case the team ever got Marigold back, which they did.
@@laughslapproductions4690 never explained also. Was just told she is more powerful then all of them because she has durango n if she comes into contact with any of them the chain reaction to the cleanse happens. So no powers, they just fuse n kill everything i guess lol. Also her emerging from the squid is also not explained. I at least expecting it to be shes was from a different timeline n the squid was that timelines ben protecting n transporting her n she just repeats meeting ben n kills timelines but no
@@laughslapproductions4690 I honestly thought for a second that her and Ben would turn into the squid together, at least to make sense of WHY she came out of a squid and why his powers were having tentacles and spitting something like black ink (?). I'm so annoyed.
@@mmmmouthI think the partial explanation for her being more powerful is just that she has a higher concentration of particles inside her body than the Umbrellas, i.e. she had all the durango vs the marigold being split among the siblings
I think that the umbrella symbolizes creating an infinite timeline much like when it blocks rain, water flows to different directions. Whereas the reverse umbrella symbolizes the funneling of timeline into one.
Been a fan since season 1, which was an 8/10. Dallas was 9/10. Hotel Oblivion was 6/10. Season 4 was 4/10. Hate to see it fall off but it was fun while it lasted.
So many things didn’t make any sense or were left unsaid. - where did the second Ben go? - where is Sloane (and the rest of the sparrow academy for that matter) -why does Luther turn into ape man? If that only happened to him after he was mixed with pogo - nobody mentioning how they just straight up got new powers - the umbrella academy were not the only ppl with merigold in them -Viktor could’ve taken the merigold from them. -klaus immediately going back to drugs to not hear ghosts when he learned to control it for the past 3 seasons Also they spent so much time in useless plot lines like the whole five and Lila thing. Almost no action besides the first couple of episodes. The weird thing about them mentioning how fat Diego was just for him to be ripped. Luther being reduced into a complete moron This season was really disappointing
For there being other people with marigold in their body: an iffy explanation could be that everything was fixed only after the Cleanse wiped out the Earth, assuming none of the other super powered people could escape the planet.
I know is not the shows fault, but i already had an awfull week. I started watching the new season after finishing my shift, and now i'm really bummed out. If it was going to end this way, they should have just cancel it and pretend season 3 was the ending.
The most disgusting part is Five ❤ Lila 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬🤬, it ruined the whole Umbrella Academy even though Five deserves some romantic plot but with brother‘s wife, No way！ 😡😡😡
They could just do that. The fifth found a girlfriend in another timeline and dated her for a while. And when it was time to go home, he would break up with her. It would be much better that way than with Lila.
A better ending would have been viktor extracting the marigold form the rest of the siblings but then having to sacrifice himself as he can’t do it to himself. Full circle as viktor/vanya was always outcasted by the others and seen as ordinary and would now be the one to save them all
That still wouldn't have worked. Viktor doing that would have ended all the timelines as well, getting us to the same place in the very end....except maybe without the marigold flowers.
@@jordangottlieb4566considering the show somehow let the children survive and make it to the original timeline then it would’ve made sense if Viktor extracted everyone else’s marigold except Five so he can teleport the powerless siblings to the subway to escape and he returns to be erased with Viktor.
I like the ending but I didn’t want them to disappear, they deserved a happy ending too. I thought that they were going to wake up and realize that the day that were born before is actually the day that their mothers conceived them and they were all born nine months later like normal babies and had normal lives until their memories from the other timeline came back. I wanted to see Alison with Claire. Klaus with a new boyfriend. Lila and Diego with their children. Five and Viktor with their girlfriends. Ben with Jennifer. And Luther with Sloane.
The creator Gerard Way has NEVER made a happy ending 😂 its so funny seeing "fans" of this show, having zero understanding of the source material. This is happiest ending you'll ever see from this man lol
Honestly I think happy endings are overrated, not every superhero needs to have that “no matter how dire the situation fear not cuz at the end the heroes win anyway”. This season has its problems but I really like the depressing concept that they all needed to die. That is what heroes do anyway. But the idea that your existence has always been illegitimate and that you were destined to cause doom and destruction is a very depressing notion but it is unique and I find it good that a show has an unhappy ending for once, especially a superhero show
No, this was terrible What happened to Sloane? What happened to the other Ben that was in the subway at the end of S3 Five and Lila was terrible How does them getting Marigold cause multiple timelines to crash into one another? Thats like saying Peter shouldn't get bit by the spider or an incursion will occur 5 and Lila was terrible. What was going on here? Why did they do a council of Fives? Why were there multiple timelines when there could've just been one being reset and messed with? 5 and Lila was terrible.
This season was far from perfect, but overall I enjoyed it. It did feel like Netflix was kind enough to not just flat out cancel the show, but they were deffinitely ready for it to end. I do appreciate that we at least got an ending. Even if it wasnt perfect.
@Waliant8349 Exactly! Don't just give us anything just say you finished the show. It was horrible & could've been way better. This was trash & it's really disrespectful that Netflix allows this or pushes this when we spend our money to subscribe.
i won't be buying season 4 dvd so it does end at season 3 for me. edit... i mean season 2... netflix never made a season 3 dvd so even better lol i got the best seasons already :)
time magic...plot armor? maybe it was part of the deal alison made in season 3... even though it would be really stupid of reginald to create 8 kids that can create an apocalypse if they meet jenifer in the only timeline his wife is stil alive in. Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very stupid plot contrived reasons.
They reset the universe at the end leaving them with no powers, it’s explained that artefacts from branch timelines had leaked through so I’m assuming the marigold did too but it still doesn’t explain Jennifer like not at all lol
I felt so fucking bad for Diego, dude. Because I love him. When they came back to Diego and Lila’s house, and Diego was so happy to see Lila and Lila didn’t even seem that happy to see him… I felt so sad. And although it was so long ago for Lila, she told Diego she had some problems with him, so he was clearly trying to be better. But what rlly pissed me off!! Was when he found out and got upset, they acted like he had no right to be upset!! LIKE?? Yes he does. And then he and Five fist fighting instead of trying to deal with the monster? And help Allison and help Viktor who are both unconscious? Diego initiated the fight, but Five shouldn’t have started to fight him. Five was in the wrong in trying to act like he’s better for Lila than Diego. And then acting all butthurt about he and Lila, when it wasn’t a real relationship in the first place. Then he, Diego, and Lila all ended on weird terms. I don’t understand why they didn’t just have he and Lila trapped and becoming close friends. Not everything needs to be a romance, especially not one as weird and unnecessary as that. It was cute with them all bored on the subway, her falling asleep on his shoulder, then talking and eating rats, her shaving his beard, and then.. they just had to kiss.
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 I felt bad too because Diego gets his hero complex resolved this season. He has his time with the CIA but realizes he would have no family so he goes back and wants to change for Lila and admits shes right. But there was no other way to resolve Lila's dilemma of missing the action of her commission days other then going with Five and cheating with him. Like you said they come back but you can tell she feels guilty because Diego admits his wrongs and says he'll change for her and the family but shes already cheated. And Five? They moved to the greenhouse universe at 6 years 5 months and 2 days, and he supposedly found that notebook soon after because when he shows it to her he says hes had it for about 5 months? Ruined him for me because previous seasons he was still mean to them but wanted to protect his family and he hurts Diego like this?
Lila sent her family to an alternate timeline but after their sacrifice only the original timeline should be available and yet the family was alive ?how???
time magic...also it's stupid to think no one will create marigold or durango again simply because abigail is gone. if a "god particle" exists then people will find a way to use it....very silly ending that solved nothing imo.
@@danwoods8195it was discovered by Abigail who is an alien from an advanced race that got destroyed. If humans were to create it it won’t be for a very very long time if ever. Marigold might have only been found on their home planet who knows
Absolute horseshit. Too many conflicts that could've been avoided, i understand the writers that they want to point out that the UA needs to die since they're literally causing the apocalypse. But they could've end it in a good way where everyone lives a happy life before dying, ending their lives where the family is okay....but noooo they even decided to make lila and five situationship. I don't know what's of with viktor, i do understand that his reaction is normal for someone having lots of problems specially from his past, but the acting is off, it's super cringe or awkward in any way. They added so many plots that it even included some crazy lazy characters, they could've make it better. You can feel the difference between season 1-2 to 3-4. Season 4 is the worst to end this series could've done it on season 3...
So much potential from the buildup from season 3 for example: - Reginald as the final boss - maybe switch the Powers - solving different timelines problems as an actually Team, or even explore it to collect all the powerjuice from every Academy like the pheonix academy to earn the ending we got. etc. honestly pretty bad ending, fun scenes in the season but totally rushed.
You could literally do NONE of that story with 6 episodes and a cut budget. Plus, being canceled. 😂 lets not forget that the showrunners didnt know they were cancelled when they wrote all those buildups soooooo
I am 4:16 into this video and in that time your explanation of this final season needs to be what everybody else watches to understand why the season ended the way it did. Beautiful work! 👏🏻 and now I don’t need to watch it because this is all I needed.
I just don’t understand something-if they never existed (or were erased), wouldn’t the existence of the children create the grandfather paradox and cause the universe to be erased again? P.S.: It just occurred to me that Viktor/Vanya was responsible for all the apocalypses in the first three seasons. It’s all happening because of him/her! LOL
I honestly was not vibing with the show in the middle of season 4. I didn’t like Five and Lila, I didn’t think he would do that to Diego, and I didn’t think he wouldn’t be able to find a way out of the subway in 7 years. With that said, I really can give them credit for ending the show with a sad/bad ending. I’ve never seen a show with that amount of stones to just end a show sadly. And for this show I think it makes sense cause they failed to stop the apocalypse every season. All in all, they definitely rushed this show and it made some questionable choices, but I can appreciate a narrative that actually had some guts to end on that note.
That’s Sparrow Ben (Ben from seasons 3 and 4). I looked it up cus I was confused too. Apparently that’s him on a subway in Korea doing his crypto scam thing that landed him in jail during the 6 year time skip in between seasons 3 and 4. He just has glasses
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 Oh that's it??? At the end of season 3 they made it seem like such a big clue for something more grand ,but it was just a tiny portion of sparrow Ben's life that we never even saw.
@@ifweseekay Yeah, that’s it. It’s definitely weird they were making it confusing by making him look different. Understandable for everyone to be confused, thinking it’s ANOTHER Ben and ANOTHER plot hole they didn’t address. They did make it seem like it would be some big thing that would be revealed/come up later in season 4.
@@ifweseekay Yeah, the Handler did kill her parents when she was a kid. They’re back because it’s a different timeline. Allison and Reginald at the end of season 3, to get away from the apocalypse, did a universe reset and made a different timeline. So it affected things differently (not completely sure how/what the deal with it all was, since the end of season 3 was confusing). But basically, because of them doing that reset, some people that were dead ended up being alive. Like Lila’s parents, Reginald (Allison killed him with an axe at the end of season 3, but he’s back in season 4), and Reginald’s alien wife. Diego mentions this in ep 1, while on the phone with Lila he says “I’m glad and all your parents are alive in this timeline, but I don’t want them living in my house.”
ok but shoutout to MT and the team for the 'tides of change' pun at 3:30. I like the breakdown on the tree and it makes me feel a little better about the ending. Season felt weirdly rushed. I LOVED the tiny town fight, and how well Claire seemed to balance her mom out. I could have watches a whole lot more of Claire and Uncle Klaus.
(Apologies for my Grammar) I have one question unsolved, at season one, Ben is always seen arround with Klaus and i dont understand why he didnt tell him that his father was a murderer.
I thought that too. I was like “ok.. so Reggie wiped all their brains, so they don’t know what happened, but he couldn’t have wiped Ben’s, wouldn’t Ben remember Reggie killing him?” But I think Ben just didn’t see that Reggie shot him. Pretty sure Ben was turned facing away from him when he was shot, and it was a headshot, so he died immediately. And his ghost would’ve popped out of his body and seen Reggie holding the gun, so either that’s a plot hole, or Ben’s ghost just didn’t appear out of his body right away. Just appeared at the funeral when he started talking to Klaus I think
For the Jennifer incident, I had the exact same thought. If Reginald knew the girl was there, why did he send the team there, and not anyone else? Even if he chose to kill them, did he really need to kill Ben as well? Just kill the girl, and save Ben.
Five said that for the original timeline to come back, all the marigold had to be destroyed. And that’s what we see in the last episode, where the umbrella Academy + Lila ofc sacrifice themselves.. except, what happened to that marigold that Klaus splashed on the waiter… meaning all of the marigold wasn’t destroyed, possibly leading to the end of the world once again
Weird that they made a point for him to splash it on the waiter, making it seem like that’ll lead somewhere, only for it to not. Forgot about that. But no, I think the blob did get to all the marigold eventually. Like after it absorbed them all, it spread to the rest of the city, getting any marigold they spilled. Then everything got fixed
questions that I need to be answered by the writers: why did Ray leave? Where is Sloane? What are Diego’s twin’s names and why do they not seem to matter lol? What were the writers thinking when they put Lila and Five together? Why didn’t Viktor absorb all their marigold and sacrifice himself? What was the point of them dying to erase marigold if they just came back as marigold flowers? Did umbrella Ben know he got shot by Reggie because you’d think he’d be fuming during the dinner season in s2. When the siblings saw Ben get shot why did they allow themselves to get brainwashed (because they would’ve had to sit in the machine right?) and also I felt like if Viktor can blow up the moon he could kill bennifer. here’s some more, why did Luther get his ape body back after ingesting marigold? Why was Jennifer in a squid and how was that relevant? Season three end credits? Why was there a timeline train station? Literally any explanation to Five creating the commission. How does Lila have a family, is it like a found family or…? Why was Abigail on the moon?
Does anyone know if there’s like a multi-hour long summary video explaining the chronological story of the whole show now? Cuz I feel like they really failed to answer or wrap up a lot of the plotlines from the first 3 seasons due to them only doing 6 episodes and now a lot of my theories are unanswered 😭😭😭😭
Damn I’m just now stupidly learning this show didn’t have a consistent source material that the writer relied on and that he went off the rails to make his own story and now all the random unexplained things that I thought were mere comic references or Easter eggs are just pointless unanswered plot threads (like Lila having laser eyes as part of her innate powers or the fact that Reginald is an alien and somehow unlike the kids, him being alive isn’t part of the reason for the broken timelines due to what I can only assume is that his powers don’t come from marigold and he literally is an alien???)
@@Matt.Radiant What powers do reginald have? and if you thought about it you could have gest reginald was an alien due to the ships and marigold and fields he was seen in when his wife died
@@jackts2375 I just think it’s a let down that the show never DIRECTLY confronted who Reggie was (as an alien) and more of that identity. ESPECIALLY….. since Luther literally has seen with his own eyes that he’s not a normal human. There was a lot of room for questioning but none of it, sadly.
@@jackts2375 I just think it’s a let down that the show never DIRECTLY confronted who Reggie was (as an alien) and more of that identity. ESPECIALLY….. since Luther literally has seen with his own eyes that he’s not a normal human. There was a lot of room for questioning but none of it, sadly.
They really didnt feel like a family at all this season, just all split up doing their own things while not talking about it together. Also the whole "relationship" with Five and Lila was so weird, like you're a Uncle, brother/wife, mom, tf u doing?? I was looking forward to this season so much but it felt so rushed, they barely even talked about their powers when they definitely got a upgrade. It would of also been interesting to see everyone go to different timelines together in the train station, but Five didn't tell anyone about that for some reason.
Season 4 episode 1 : it shows after victor watching reginald tormstone and gone to find his siblings camara shows to five who tried to understand what's going on
The fact that the showed got cancelled with 3 Seasons remaining, and that we never got to finish the other power individuals storylines (we watched 7 out 30 sum others), really sucked lol
There’s a lot of little things I didn’t like about this season but episode 2 really felt like the peak of old umbrella academy (even if Luther gets his pogo body back even if it WASN’T HIS ORIGINAL POWER BUT whatever)
Their explanation at the end was so stupid. If the problem was the marigold, which is what Five said, then why didn’t Viktor just take all the marigold and sacrifice himself so the family could survive and have a happy life in one timeline? They brought up Viktors ability to do it multiple times in the season, and you’d think she’d remember that when she literally tried doing it to Ben within the same hour. It’s just the GOT treatment, they cut down the episodes from 10 to 6, and rushed the last two episodes hard. They first 4 were honestly pretty good, and given the season had a proper 10 episodes, were on perfect pace. Then they went and gave us a filler plot with Five and Lila that was just weird and unnecessary and did nothing for the season. It was an awful ending that had a perfect ending right infront of them, yet they just screwed it. But that’s what we get when they had full creative freedom given that it was an original story and not a comic adaptation.
@@jackts2375That’s what I was thinking. But still though.. after season 3, they had no powers. They had no marigold, it was in a jar. Therefore, the world stopped ending. The world stopped ending for a whole 6 years! Then that world ending cycle only started again once they drank the marigold back. So couldn’t they on the finale have gotten the marigold out of their bodies somehow (maybe with Viktor) and the blob would’ve absorbed the marigold and they’d have been fine? And just became normal humans.
@@jackts2375 Yeah I guess multiple timelines would’ve still been there during that time skip. But what about if they took the marigold out of their bodies somehow like they did at the end of season 3 and it ended up in a jar? And the blob could absorb only the marigold from them and spit them back out fine, just normal people.
Technically Reginald was raising them to ultimately sacrifice them to save his wife which he tried to do in season 3, he did get his wife back but they were not sacrifice due to Allison intrusion which made it where his wife who is back but knows it meant so many others had died or suffer she decides to fix things and bring back the original time line which would have none of the hargreaves being alive
Oh damn! Already!? I legit just woke up in the middle of the night to see two notifications. One from Netflix saying the new season is out and the other one surprisingly from this channel about an ending explained. You guys are fast!
Season 4 was so meh I was like "that's it??" I thought there's some big secret of why the alien dad is on earth. Like from season 1 I already knew that the apocalypse keeps chasing the siblings so obviously they're the problem. Thank goodness they took so long for season 4 to come out, all of my initial hype are gone and I'm now not as dissapointed as I would have if it come out earlier.
Seriously, like this is the same Five that is 50plus years old mentally lets remember. The same one that still comforted Viktor in a previous season and wanted to return to the family and whats best for them but they had to waste a love interest for him on Lila, Diego's wife? Diego even had his resolution with the CIA and was ready to go home and change for Lila and the family but they destroy it by having her cheat?
It was fine, not good but not bad, just not consistent with the other 3 seasons, I enjoyed it, however the hype didn’t match I guess as every show pretty much does. If they actually stuck to 7 season it would have been amazing I’m sure, but like Netflix ruins most shows by cutting them way to early, and leaving some slop to keep running.
The same feelings about the 3rd season. Glad that I stopped watching in the half of the season and just watched the recap instead of finishing watching. But to be fair, the fourth season was actually not that bad
Let us know your thoughts on the final season below
I liked it, but the VFX had some distracting lapses in quality. The pacing feels rushed with only 6 episodes unlike the previous seasons having 10 episodes each. I liked that they used Map of the Problematique, Muse really fits the tone of the show.
I love the ending. I thought it was excellent
Really Mr T grandson super flex 😂
Loved it! ❤
the ending is Christian as you can't see eternal life
Season 4 was honestly all over the place. It's clear that Netflix just wanted to be done with this project.
As it appears to be the case for most shows these days towards the end of
I got bored on season 4 episode 4 and stopped watching it. It feels like I'm watching the same plot repeatedly. The world is ending and they try to stop it again. I think they should have ended the story in season 3. The ending was not bad, but now it just seems like bad writing. I feel like I wasted my time watching.
@@Ajjenklesgamingyeah the same story for this season. I would they just work to finding each other again.
Idk if it’s cause I didn’t watch it on Netflix but after episode 1 I watched episode 2 and it left out so much that happened. They only talked about what happened after Ben put merrigold in everyone’s drinks forcing them to get their powers back. They talked about finding the girl they were looking and everything that went crazy when they found her but nothing was shown. I was so confused.
nope, just the opposite they showed that this is the main topic of the world, if you understood the series?
The ghost dog pissing on its own grave pretty much summed up the entire season.
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Also, how the hell did Five and Lila spend 7 YEARS in the metro without ever running into anyone, but then right at the end of the world, our Five just conveniently runs into a diner full of Fives who explain the whole plot?
Only thing I can think is that Five wandered so far for so long that he ended up at “the end of the line” where he met the other Five. How that didn’t lead to paradox sickness idk
I also wonder which Five left the book of ciphers and why
my guess would be that this diner thing has a natural version of the "paradox proof" thing of the panic room from s3 with 100yr old five. they say that "one of us went and created the commission" so
There was only supposed to be one time line right so all the other time lines have had a apocalypse or is gonna have one so it’s not crazy they didn’t run into anyone it’s crazy that the fives ran so far ahead that there untouched and just chilling
If the apocalypse will always happen wherever they are, then why didn’t the first one happen until Vanya’s powers were activated??! Like shouldn’t the apocalypse have happened as soon as they were born?? And why did the umbrella kids dying stop the apocalypse, since we already know for a fact that there are wayyy more kids born with marigold in the world ☠️. Like the plot holes are insane.😂
@@kiarasessyoin-xo8vf I think it's moreso that the existence of the marigold in the time line is what caused the fractures and so led to constant apocolypses. and I can only assume that the people we follow are the "core" timeline so to speak. but yeah, could have been explained way better
I finally understand what GoT fans felt when season 8 dropped 😭😭😭
5xLila was just awful .
Rs I was like tf Is this bs
i’m a GoT and The Umbrella Academy fan 😭
@@j.jade.d same , this week has not been S fun as I thought it would be
I had to do a field sobriety test on myself to make sure I wasn’t just seeing shit
I’m disappointed, I’ll admit.
- Luther mentions Sloane maybe twice. He isn’t shown looking for her or mourning - just his usual, cheerful self.
- Why couldn’t Viktor just take everyone’s marigold and sacrifice himself? Then only one person has to die instead of everyone. Or Five could’ve gone back in time and stop Ben from ever giving everyone else the marigold, that way the cleanse never would’ve even happened.
- So….Diego and Five just die hating each other? With no resolution whatsoever to the love triangle?
- Has Klaus just forgotten three seasons of character development or something?
- Why did Ray leave? Did the actor just not want to come back for another season?
- Weren’t there supposed to be two versions of Ben in that timeline? Why tease it, then not use it?
- Also, way to totally waste Ben all season
- According to the final shot, there’s still marigold in the world somehow anyway, so in theory, it’ll just start again? Either that, or it’s symbolic, which imo is naff.
- so if Claire and the other kids still exist, but Alison, Diego, and Lila never existed, then how does that not create a paradox?
- 6 episodes? Seriously??
- Rushed ass season
I will concede that Luther in a thong was hilarious, but that’s it.
I was thinking about the exact same things lol. Also it bothered me how much towards the end they would be like “make sure to w kids are on the train” when theoretically the kids will never exist
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@@TheLOD2099 yes pls 🥺
Okay so the whole Viktor taking everyone’s marigold or five going back in time, wouldn’t have worked. They were ALL born because of the marigold so they all had to go since they only existed because of it for everything to be how it should be. This is why when they didn’t have the powers at the start the multiverse was still all over the place and there were multiple timelines when there was only meant to be one. Even if Viktor had taken one for the team all that would have done was create a post apocalyptic world in that timeline and still have left the others. Same if five had actually gone back and stopped everyone, would have still had all the other five’s all running around that we saw at the end.
you put more thought into this than they did.
Ben and Five were done dirty the most this season. As much of a dick (sparrow) Ben was, he did have potential and he had the opportunity to spend more time and create a bond with the rest of the team but didn’t capitalize on said opportunity until he realized it was too late. That really hurts especially after finding out the circumstances on how he really died in episode 4. As for Five, the whole fling between him and Lila really pissed me off like he OF ALL THE SIBLINGS would NEVER do that to Diego. It literally feels like the writers didn’t know what to do with them. Dare I say they ruined his character. Ben and Five really deserved better, honorable mention I have is Diego, mans really went through it this season 😭
I agree with this, but at the same time I feel like the affair between Lila and Five emphasizes how much the time traveling was affecting them. Five loved his siblings so much and would never do something like that under normal circumstances, but after jumping through time and almost dying so many times in all the different timelines, he just snapped.
@@A_Pink_Fish Yeah you brought up a really good point. But idk I still feel so conflicted with his character after finishing this season (and I’m saying this as someone who loves Five, he’s my favorite character after Klaus & original timeline Ben). I will say tho it was so hard watching him and Diego nag at each other after Lila wanted him back bc it was just so out of character for him but like you said, he probably just had enough and snapped which is unfortunate :/
@@Kye-t1k I agree. Five’s character changed through the seasons because he used to be so desperate to be with his family he didn’t give a sh about anything else. Now he just seems more self centered and that’s where the broody attitude is coming from which makes it so hard to watch 😭 💕 I still love him though. And I agree Klaus is my favorite character too
I agree. I keep saying "ugh" and rolled my eyes watching Five and Lila scenes. 🙄 It grossed me out.
@@A_Pink_Fish That's what I thought so too but I do feel they could have executed it a lot better. Like I get it, 6 years is a lot and Lila and Five could have definitely gotten together.. BUT the way they did it felt so out of the blue. I know that they hinted it from the earlier episodes but we rooted for Lila and Diego the last season not Lila and Five. They literally just threw away Lila and Diego's relationship and made up this side plot with Lila and Five. We literally felt betrayed. And what's even the point? They all died in the end with their character arcs ruined for no fucking reason.
Loved the show but it kind of lost its touch
You can tell Netflix was done with it and just wanted it to end because they’re so many plot holes unresolved and just left there
True. Also, this time, they didn't do the usual part 1 and part 2 . Also, the final season has fewer episodes than other seasons
What happened to Sloane? Really wanted Luther to find her
What happened to the other Ben in the subway at the end of S3?
@@jonathankhan7184 that was the same ben and sloane doesn't exist in this timeline since only the umbrellas are here
@hafsaahmed7716 no there were two Ben's at the end of S3
Ben was a Sparrow and Sloane was part of the machine that reset the universe
It was even said that at the beginning of season 3 that Hargreaves chose to adopt other children instead of them. Remember many children were born with powers that day he only managed to adopt 7.
@jonathankhan7184 Didn't some guy whose power is similar to Victor killed their mother and caused the grandfather paradox? I remember seeing them mentioning that there was no record of their birth.
soooo.... Ben on a train at the season 3 post credit scene just goes nowhere huh...
It was gonna be a plot line but scraped it and just said it was the original ben who got into criminal activity after the universe reset
That was just Sparrow Ben
Let it go.
@@BrianLe-yf6fethey simply don't understand this
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My biggest problem was how nothing came out of the post-credit scene at the end of season 3
Steve Blackman said it was sparrow ben planning the crypto scam called Sparrow bit. i just speculate he went to korea to master the art of scams and crypto😅 but ben also said he didn't mean for it to be a scam but idk🤷🏻♀️
@@random_girl-onyoutube in reality, that entire subplot was scrapped and they shoehorned in the ben scams thing bc Netflix was already finsihed was this show for whatever reason, even tho it makes them tons of money
It's honestly impressive how the season with the least number of episodes... felt the most bloated. So much of what happed felt like it didn't matter at all, and like the writers just had no ideas on what to do.
My thoughts exactly! I usually complain about the shorter seasons, I miss having 12, 16 or more episodes of character development, but this? This could've been a 3 episodes season, without all the needless running around for nothing.
There's probably a really good 2 hour film at the core if you edited out all of the fluff. I don't know why they felt the need to pad it out, 3 seasons and a movie isn't bad.
I wish we saw what Reginald and his wife actually looked like
YES! I kept waiting for Reggie to take off his skin suit to help fight The Cleanse.
We already saw what Reggie looked like a little bit
they showed the back of him and they showed his side of his head cut off by allison last season
@@lavishmisfittink3214 I think they meant like a full on look. Like no skin suit at all. Alien form on full display.
@@Astrovite i agree bc when he showed itself he was a alien when allison hit him he looked robotic
I love how they forgot about the fact the Sloane was still missing
I mean it’d been 6 years and I’m sure he looked for her. Maybe she didn’t exist in that timeline.
@@betteryourlife865 The season was so bad i cant even reason out any plot holes. Clearly sloane was missing because the writers couldnt even bother.
All the kids that got the powers didn't exist only the 8 that we see
@@NoNiceIceWait really?? So all the like overall 40 or so kids that had powers didn’t exist? That would explain why they didn’t need those people’s marigolds too in order to have the ending work
Omg I thought I was the only one who noticed that!!!
it was bittersweet how their orphaned children survived but it also made no sense. If none of them ever existed then the children should have also never existed.
THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE I’M GOING NUTS LOL. Nobody else mentioned that!! Claire and Lila and Diego’s kids should NOT exist! I couldn’t get over that when watching the finale. The whole fucking time they were arguing about “our kids need to be safe”, I wanted to yell at the TV because I didn’t think that made sense. The kids should have ceased to exist when they did. Because they created the kids. Their DNA wouldn’t exist. It shows them at the end playing with Lila’s parents. Lila’s parents would still exist, but who tf they think those kids are?😂I want to go ask them “hey those are your grandkids, right?” “yeah.” “so who’s your kid?” “uhhhh” Ask the kids: “hey, who’s your parents? either one?” “uhhhhh”
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421actually they came with the train
They are Lila and Diego kids and their parents
Well that means there are other Lila parents in this world but it's another thing
@@ghonking What are you talking about? I know they went on the train. The characters were arguing “oh, well they’ll be safe here, even after we’ll cease to exist”. Which doesn’t make any sense. That’s Lila and Diego’s kids. When they cease to exist, SO DO THEIR KIDS, because their kids and a part of them, with their DNA. Same thing with Claire. I said Lila’s parents would still be alive, because Lila not existing has nothing to do with them not existing, unlike her kids. There is literally no way Claire and Lila and Diego’s kids existing still is NOT a plot hole, unless they’re all adopted.
maybe it's just me but I thought that was the only thing that made sense in the entire season. they were outside of the true timeline as the others collapsed so they were then inserted into the true one. they exist because they were in a protective bubble while the collapse was happening and inserted into the timeline. ben and jennifer may even have helped make it happen as well since they are the ones who reset things and clearly still exist in one form or another.
THEY ALSO WENT INT THE TRAIN TO ANOTHER TIMELINE BUT MINUTES LATER WE SEE AL TIME LINES (METRO LANES) BEING DESTROYED
Hargreaves says Jennifer is stronger than all of them combined, but we don’t even get to see what her powers are.
Well she did kinda kill all of them and they where powerless to stop her
Jennifer had the power to ruin a whole series finale. She truly was unstoppable.
Didn't Viktor destroyed the moon?! Why is he so weak this season
@@ka850411 I’m pretty sure the stated reason, or the one the show tries to make us believe is that the Marigold gave Victor a warped version of his powers.
Five, Lila, Allison, and Victor all have different powers, or so the show makes you think. What with Five having multidimensional travel, Lila having laser eyes, Victor having kinetic and luminous energy creation, and Allison having telekinesis.
Though the other half of the Academy having their same powers & Five and Lila regaining their old abilities. Still makes about zero sense.
You can really tell that the only six episodes really hammered the show in the balls.
But, but…she killed them all. Too subtle? 😂
This season was undoubtedly rushed, why is Luther apeified when it was a serum that caused the appearance? He should've just had his super human abilties returned...
Was thinking the same thing cause when i first saw that i thought aren't his powers tied to his powers and not his ape appearence but they probably did that so they could have a bullet proof character
Was confused on that too, either I’m just dumb and not understanding why, or it’s a plot hole. Assuming a plot hole, because they just wanted a bullet proof character. When it showed he was a gorilla, I immediately got confused on why. He shouldn’t be. That was when he was an adult, when Reginald injected the chimp serum into his system after he went on a solo mission and got hurt. That literally doesn’t have to do with his actual powers/marigold he was born with lol. Ig it could be because everyone’s powers were slightly different, but eh
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i mean all of them had there powers amplified
Luther looked like a gorilla because lazy writing
Didn't even touch on the fact there was another Ben running around.
Dude riiiight and it seemed like it was going to be a big thing. So he was just chilling in Korea this whole time?
Also where was Sloane? She was apart of the machine that reset the universe, was she just wiped from existence? Then why are there two Ben's running around?
@@jonathankhan7184 I mean she was from another timeline, so technically yeah she was wiped from existence.
No that was the tease for the subways that see Thus season
@@stonerecords8174then we should’ve seen him this season. Only 5 and Lyla were the only ones able to get into the subway. Everyone else had to be transported by Lyla.
That was just Sparrow Ben
Did anybody else notice after Viktor got shot in the arm, the next scene he was in he wasn’t injured anymore???? Or did I miss something? 😭
Yeah. That took me out of the final fight so bad. Like there weren’t enough plot holes already 😭
Same thing when Five was pulling a piece of glass out of Lila's foot. In the next shot, no injury no blood. Someone really dropped the ball.
@@ChineduOpara But that one gets a pass. It was a montage of shots over the course of 6 and a half years. Maybe she took 3 months to heal. Who knows.
The bullet Victor took though... There's no explaining that one away
@キラキラくりくり頭 Hmm I don't think that's how the shots went. Watch it again. It was literally a reverse shot of the same moment, not a montage. Glaring continuity error.
I think they heal faster than regular humans.
Holy fuck this season was bad. I know nothing of movie making and cinema and even incould tell that this was absolutely atrocious. So many plot holes, so many unanswered questions, so much NONSENSE!
As a writer myself, i am vastly disappointed.
I started episode one, disliked it and came to this video. I’m glad I didn’t waste my time lol
@@eileensnow6153 you aint missing much. As a long time umbrella fan it was incredibly disappointing (and i actually liked season 3)
Don't gotta be a chef to say a meal is shit. This season was awful
Baby shark made me wanna kill myself. Overplayed that. Everyone throws up in a van and then Klaus just chills in there all afternoon? Then it’s never mentioned again?
Yes the amount of plot holes this season had was substancial
I def thought that was weird. Them throwing up wasn’t necessary and them continuing to drive made no sense.
Yeah there should've been something done about that. No way your gunna keep driving 13 hours with that smell in the van@@showme2540
It was their attempt at comedy, clearly they've lost their touch since the early seasons
Honestly, I liked this season WAY better than Season 3, but the whole Lila and 5 situation was SO WEIRD and Unnecessary, it literally could have had them deepening their bond as "siblings" or just become closer friends. It just did not sit right.
The ending was unexpected but somewhat appreciated, but I wish it was a more clean cut story line, and they did a full 10 episode season to wrap it up nicely vs just 6.
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Also, Ray was such an upstanding character in season 2, it sucks that they just had him "Walk out" on Allison and Claire.
Maybe they couldn't get the actor back
I think this season showed that even though the siblings were able to finally have a normal life, they were still unhappy. None of them were meant to have a normal, happy life. Not even Reggie! They were going to keep having to prevent the apocalypse because they were the cause of the apocalypse. The only way to stop it was to reset the timeline one last time. I love a good ending,😊
Sorry, Me too was weirded by 5 and Lila's relationship but it come one, They were there for almost 7 years, only the two of them, no way there won't be a spark. Even Lila easily fell in love with Diego in season 2. Also the fact, 5 was a better lover than Diego and they had more connection due to them being under cover agents throughout season 2 to 4. So it's a no question why the fell for each other in the first place. But then again, I don't support their relationship and never will be, The season was rushed and I hate how they did it.
Lol Alison and Luther was weird af too! So why y'all surprised by this? 😂😂😂
@@BraidyBrownMaybe because their friendship and later romance began from childhood? The Five and Lila romance starts shortly after Lila decides to separate from Diego and was borderline cheating at first.
after 2 years this is what they bring back i just wasted 6 hours of my life.
Bro same
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It wasn’t that bad wtf?
@goldybutmoldy one on two was good three and four suck did you read the rest of the comments in this video
@@goldybutmoldyit was bad. You’re too much a fan to notice
The ending was kinda sad but kinda bad but dont blame the writers. The show was supposed to have 7 seasons but was cancelled so season 4 was the only way to wrap things up with only 6 episodes. The result was good considering with what they had to work with but its bad anyways because the show felt incomplete. Which also explains why sloane and the other ben were missing all season.
You have to blame the writers a little though. THAT was how they decided to end the show? The Lila and Five relationship? Klaus being tortured elsewhere almost the entire season AGAIN? The Gene and Jean plot line being almost completely disjointed from the main plot.
Sure they had time restraints, but come on, anything would be a better ending than an ending worse than “it was all a dream.” This is literally “none of the events in the show mattered nor happened.”
I never liked the "Oh the show got cut short so don't blame the writers" argument. Like sure they couldn't tell the story they wanted to tell but they still could've came up with a something better
@@AlbinoHammerwhy are you offended by story arcs that track with character traits? Lila is literally crazy, Klaus ALWAYS finds himself in trouble, and Five NEEDED a romance before the series ended. Try and do that, with 7 Seasons turning into 4, plus an entirely CUT budget. Lol people on the internet be weird af
@@BraidyBrownFive NEEDING a romance is not a character trait. Yes, Klaus finding himself in trouble is basically his thing but they did not need to explore it for as long as they did, especially taking time away from their last 6 episodes. It isnt 7 seasons turning into 1, its 3 seasons into 7 seasons ending abruptly. I guarantee you many people dont even know it was planned to have that many seasons. Everybody accepted that this would be the very last.
@@BraidyBrownI get the sentiment, but I don't entirely agree with this statement. Personally, I do feel that we lost some of the character growth we've gotten in the past seasons. Characters still (rightfully) have flaws and old patterns, but I can't help but feel like some of the precious development was thrown out the window to serve the extreme short timespan the writers had to wrap it up in 6 episodes (hinting at Klaus here). Very little that the characters did (aside from finding Jennifer and igniting that connection between her and Ben), contributed to the plot. Stuff just happened and they were just somewhere doing something somewhat related or completely disconnected from it, with the idea of it exposing something we (in my opinion) didn't need this much runtime for to expose (for example) that the CIA was part of the cult and so on.
Sparrow Ben's moment with Viktor at the end was also undeserved. The dude was an ass at the end of season 3, spent most of his time in prison in the gap between 3&4, and wasn't any closer to his alternate siblings when he got out of prison. Almost (what feels like) immediately after, he runs off to/with Jennifer because their connection forces him to. He doesn't have any real bonding time with any of the siblings, even on a little bit deeper than superficial level.
And honestly? Given the lack of timespan did Five really *need* a romance? It could just as much have been him getting closer to his dysfunctional family.
To sum things up, I still enjoyed a lot of the visuals and some of the interactions. But the lack of time definitely showed in the result. I'm glad we got to see an ending. Part of me, however, can't help but feel like there were different, more substantial, things they could have done in order to reach the same conclusion.
That said, this opinion is coming from a series enjoyer, and not someone who has read the comics. So maybe there might be a difference in how much we know about the lore and which character beats series-enjoyers haven't been exposed to compared to those who've read and enjoyed the comics.
Plus, everyone's own experience in how they've received this season is valid. The circumstances weren't perfect, but at least it wasn't fully open ended.
If I had a nickel for every time Robert Sheen was buried alive I’d have two nickels which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
Funny, if The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones movie had made its sequel which was already greenlit, City of Ashes, then Robert Sheehan would've been buried AGAIN because his character gets turned into a vampire in the second book.
Kidnapped and held hostage twice too. Actors were great, but the writing was awful this last season.
The funny thing is the the actor appears in another show called Misfits where he dies and is buried only to wake up in the casket to discover that he’s immortal.
@@daudimasinde6280 that was the joke mate
🎶🎶Doofinshmurtz evil incorporated 🎶🎶
Doesn't the ending create a new grandfatherparadox? Children being alive, but their parents never having exixted?
Probably just assume they were born by other parents but we’re still essentially the same people. I know, doesn’t really make sense. Would have been too grim if they all also just disappeared.
Yep
Shows that netflix hated this
Show
Sloane missing
And. 5 running around....
Whoopsie
@@kdub3288why would Claire be with the other kids then?
The kids did not inherit the marigold in their genes so their souls got directed to the original timeline
Also there's no mention of the dad being an alien? Like no one has any questions? I was waiting for it all season
This !!
Same. It's like Luther forgot his dad killed him with an alien arm blade.
Who the fuck made the train station? Or was that apart of number 5 new powers?
I guess it was part of his powers yeah but still weird because it really feels and looks like a machine
Saves lot of Vfx budget
@@devendrasolanki8538also having like 2 fight scenes the entire season saved on the budget too lol
@@laughslapproductions4690 there was no need for the monster in the last episode they could have just gone with something similar to what they did with when they mate for the first time in motel
They stole the train station thing from the Matrix sequels lol
BIGGEST plothole for me was, original timeline Hargreeves sent the team to kill Jennifer, Ben and her came into contact so he killed them both. World still ended because of Vanya but beside the point, she and the team still had Marigold. This timeline Hargreeves already knew Jennifer had Durango and had her secluded in her own town but none of the team had Marigold. Why didnt he just kill Jennifer with his private army during the 6 year timeskip anyways just in case the team ever got Marigold back, which they did.
Or just keep her unground or somewhere they'd never find her? Also what were her powers and why did she come out of a squid?
@@laughslapproductions4690 never explained also. Was just told she is more powerful then all of them because she has durango n if she comes into contact with any of them the chain reaction to the cleanse happens. So no powers, they just fuse n kill everything i guess lol. Also her emerging from the squid is also not explained. I at least expecting it to be shes was from a different timeline n the squid was that timelines ben protecting n transporting her n she just repeats meeting ben n kills timelines but no
@@laughslapproductions4690 I honestly thought for a second that her and Ben would turn into the squid together, at least to make sense of WHY she came out of a squid and why his powers were having tentacles and spitting something like black ink (?). I'm so annoyed.
@@mmmmouthI think the partial explanation for her being more powerful is just that she has a higher concentration of particles inside her body than the Umbrellas, i.e. she had all the durango vs the marigold being split among the siblings
Just finished watching. Came straight here bc I knew I needed to watch your explanations after hahahahaha!
right 😝
They ruined my favorite show.
It was so flucking bad
Agreed. I think I'll be cancelling my Netflix before they destroy any other shows they're just tired of making.😒
@@jeanljanes9726Nah, you didn't 😅
Five & Lila 💀
Fr im dead couldnt they just be friends! I hate season 4, i thought u would like it but turns put i didnt
That was so confusing
I hate it but I wished it survived cause Diego was being a bit shitty this season and I cried so hard at the end
I am so discussed and could even finish off s4 because of Laila
I mostly skipped those scenes 💀
I think that the umbrella symbolizes creating an infinite timeline much like when it blocks rain, water flows to different directions. Whereas the reverse umbrella symbolizes the funneling of timeline into one.
Been a fan since season 1, which was an 8/10. Dallas was 9/10. Hotel Oblivion was 6/10. Season 4 was 4/10. Hate to see it fall off but it was fun while it lasted.
As much as I love this series, season 4 was absolutely all over the place. Least favorite season of the 4. They could've done this so much better.
So many things didn’t make any sense or were left unsaid.
- where did the second Ben go?
- where is Sloane (and the rest of the sparrow academy for that matter)
-why does Luther turn into ape man? If that only happened to him after he was mixed with pogo
- nobody mentioning how they just straight up got new powers
- the umbrella academy were not the only ppl with merigold in them
-Viktor could’ve taken the merigold from them.
-klaus immediately going back to drugs to not hear ghosts when he learned to control it for the past 3 seasons
Also they spent so much time in useless plot lines like the whole five and Lila thing.
Almost no action besides the first couple of episodes.
The weird thing about them mentioning how fat Diego was just for him to be ripped.
Luther being reduced into a complete moron
This season was really disappointing
All valid points also for most of season 3 there was barely action, they just sat in the hotel and talked
For there being other people with marigold in their body: an iffy explanation could be that everything was fixed only after the Cleanse wiped out the Earth, assuming none of the other super powered people could escape the planet.
I know is not the shows fault, but i already had an awfull week. I started watching the new season after finishing my shift, and now i'm really bummed out. If it was going to end this way, they should have just cancel it and pretend season 3 was the ending.
I honestly wanted them to get their powers back then just live normal lives.
I never really understood Jennifer’s squid..? Was it just a nod to Ben and his squid powers or is there significance to it?
unfortunately it was probably just to make a connection between the two and deem it as "fate"
I didn’t understand this either and I hate that we never found out where she came from & why she was in a giant squid?
Why didn’t Klaus use his ghost army to get out of bad situations? Why did Allison use her white eyes powers just once?
The most disgusting part is Five ❤ Lila 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤬🤬🤬🤬, it ruined the whole Umbrella Academy even though Five deserves some romantic plot but with brother‘s wife, No way！ 😡😡😡
Exactly. He deserved be happy or in love BUT WITH OTHER GIRLL?? NO LILA!! ITS WEIRD
They could just do that. The fifth found a girlfriend in another timeline and dated her for a while. And when it was time to go home, he would break up with her.
It would be much better that way than with Lila.
I'm sure You haven't read Desi hot s@x stories 😅
Unnecessary in every way. Kissing your brother's wife and the reality age gap for the actors. I can't understand how people ship Lila & Five.
@@diekerydock Aidan Gallagher is an adult by the time of season 4
A better ending would have been viktor extracting the marigold form the rest of the siblings but then having to sacrifice himself as he can’t do it to himself. Full circle as viktor/vanya was always outcasted by the others and seen as ordinary and would now be the one to save them all
That was the route I expected them to go too
That still wouldn't have worked. Viktor doing that would have ended all the timelines as well, getting us to the same place in the very end....except maybe without the marigold flowers.
@@jordangottlieb4566considering the show somehow let the children survive and make it to the original timeline then it would’ve made sense if Viktor extracted everyone else’s marigold except Five so he can teleport the powerless siblings to the subway to escape and he returns to be erased with Viktor.
My guess is that she’s an alien or Mrs Hargreeves created her.
I like the ending but I didn’t want them to disappear, they deserved a happy ending too.
I thought that they were going to wake up and realize that the day that were born before is actually the day that their mothers conceived them and they were all born nine months later like normal babies and had normal lives until their memories from the other timeline came back.
I wanted to see Alison with Claire. Klaus with a new boyfriend. Lila and Diego with their children. Five and Viktor with their girlfriends. Ben with Jennifer. And Luther with Sloane.
The creator Gerard Way has NEVER made a happy ending 😂 its so funny seeing "fans" of this show, having zero understanding of the source material. This is happiest ending you'll ever see from this man lol
@@BraidyBrown a girl can dream 😆
Honestly I think happy endings are overrated, not every superhero needs to have that “no matter how dire the situation fear not cuz at the end the heroes win anyway”. This season has its problems but I really like the depressing concept that they all needed to die. That is what heroes do anyway. But the idea that your existence has always been illegitimate and that you were destined to cause doom and destruction is a very depressing notion but it is unique and I find it good that a show has an unhappy ending for once, especially a superhero show
@@timothyday5187exactly!!
No, this was terrible
What happened to Sloane?
What happened to the other Ben that was in the subway at the end of S3
Five and Lila was terrible
How does them getting Marigold cause multiple timelines to crash into one another? Thats like saying Peter shouldn't get bit by the spider or an incursion will occur
5 and Lila was terrible.
What was going on here?
Why did they do a council of Fives?
Why were there multiple timelines when there could've just been one being reset and messed with?
5 and Lila was terrible.
you forgot five and lila was terrible.
There was no other Ben
@@BrianLe-yf6feThere was the sparrow ben that got out of the elevator with the others and the normal ben with glasses that was in a subway
@@BrianLe-yf6fe Season 3 post credit scene
They didn't get marigold, marigold created them but your right also you forgot to talk about 101 and Lila and how it was terrible
This season was far from perfect, but overall I enjoyed it. It did feel like Netflix was kind enough to not just flat out cancel the show, but they were deffinitely ready for it to end. I do appreciate that we at least got an ending. Even if it wasnt perfect.
I prefer if they cancelled the show rather than that horrible season finale….
@Waliant8349 Exactly! Don't just give us anything just say you finished the show. It was horrible & could've been way better. This was trash & it's really disrespectful that Netflix allows this or pushes this when we spend our money to subscribe.
i won't be buying season 4 dvd so it does end at season 3 for me. edit... i mean season 2... netflix never made a season 3 dvd so even better lol i got the best seasons already :)
Agreed
@@melaninenriched7844 dude just watch on pirate sites
Please explain. If they never existed. How do their (Allison and Lilla) their children exist in the current/original time-line
time magic...plot armor? maybe it was part of the deal alison made in season 3... even though it would be really stupid of reginald to create 8 kids that can create an apocalypse if they meet jenifer in the only timeline his wife is stil alive in. Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very stupid plot contrived reasons.
What confused me is didn’t last seasons state that the umbrella family weren’t the only ones with marigold? None of the others played into the finale?
The blob got them all they just skipped tht part and showed us the after....thts my head canon 🤭🤭
They reset the universe at the end leaving them with no powers, it’s explained that artefacts from branch timelines had leaked through so I’m assuming the marigold did too but it still doesn’t explain Jennifer like not at all lol
and how did the durango end up in earth if the marigold was released after abigails death
@@justjordan802Abigail put Jennifer in the squid.
@@ereheesmerere different timeline
crazy how badly five and Lila’s characters were ruined genuinely hated them by the end
I felt so fucking bad for Diego, dude. Because I love him. When they came back to Diego and Lila’s house, and Diego was so happy to see Lila and Lila didn’t even seem that happy to see him… I felt so sad. And although it was so long ago for Lila, she told Diego she had some problems with him, so he was clearly trying to be better. But what rlly pissed me off!! Was when he found out and got upset, they acted like he had no right to be upset!! LIKE?? Yes he does. And then he and Five fist fighting instead of trying to deal with the monster? And help Allison and help Viktor who are both unconscious? Diego initiated the fight, but Five shouldn’t have started to fight him. Five was in the wrong in trying to act like he’s better for Lila than Diego. And then acting all butthurt about he and Lila, when it wasn’t a real relationship in the first place. Then he, Diego, and Lila all ended on weird terms. I don’t understand why they didn’t just have he and Lila trapped and becoming close friends. Not everything needs to be a romance, especially not one as weird and unnecessary as that. It was cute with them all bored on the subway, her falling asleep on his shoulder, then talking and eating rats, her shaving his beard, and then.. they just had to kiss.
It was a totally unnecessary plot lazy writing. It would have made more sense and better of five ended with the mannequin
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 I felt bad too because Diego gets his hero complex resolved this season. He has his time with the CIA but realizes he would have no family so he goes back and wants to change for Lila and admits shes right. But there was no other way to resolve Lila's dilemma of missing the action of her commission days other then going with Five and cheating with him. Like you said they come back but you can tell she feels guilty because Diego admits his wrongs and says he'll change for her and the family but shes already cheated. And Five? They moved to the greenhouse universe at 6 years 5 months and 2 days, and he supposedly found that notebook soon after because when he shows it to her he says hes had it for about 5 months? Ruined him for me because previous seasons he was still mean to them but wanted to protect his family and he hurts Diego like this?
Lila sent her family to an alternate timeline but after their sacrifice only the original timeline should be available and yet the family was alive ?how???
time magic...also it's stupid to think no one will create marigold or durango again simply because abigail is gone. if a "god particle" exists then people will find a way to use it....very silly ending that solved nothing imo.
@@danwoods8195it was discovered by Abigail who is an alien from an advanced race that got destroyed. If humans were to create it it won’t be for a very very long time if ever. Marigold might have only been found on their home planet who knows
This show stopped being good after season 2 I really hated the whole Lila and Five stuff
Absolute horseshit. Too many conflicts that could've been avoided, i understand the writers that they want to point out that the UA needs to die since they're literally causing the apocalypse.
But they could've end it in a good way where everyone lives a happy life before dying, ending their lives where the family is okay....but noooo they even decided to make lila and five situationship. I don't know what's of with viktor, i do understand that his reaction is normal for someone having lots of problems specially from his past, but the acting is off, it's super cringe or awkward in any way.
They added so many plots that it even included some crazy lazy characters, they could've make it better. You can feel the difference between season 1-2 to 3-4. Season 4 is the worst to end this series could've done it on season 3...
The ending teaches us to end ourselves instead of finding solutions 10/10
So much potential from the buildup from season 3 for example:
- Reginald as the final boss
- maybe switch the Powers
- solving different timelines problems as an actually Team, or even explore it to collect all the powerjuice from every Academy like the pheonix academy to earn the ending we got.
etc.
honestly pretty bad ending, fun scenes in the season but totally rushed.
Agree
You could literally do NONE of that story with 6 episodes and a cut budget. Plus, being canceled. 😂 lets not forget that the showrunners didnt know they were cancelled when they wrote all those buildups soooooo
@@BraidyBrown I know still sucks that the potential cant be used :(
Wtf ending explained already 😂 I bet the community didn’t even know it was out yet!
Me....wondering if it was season 5 releasing and this was an ending explained to refresh us on last season 🙈
better advertising than netflix because i didn't know and i've been waiting on this season
I'm sure as hell didn't know this show was back
Exactly, I'm like season what now! 😂
One of the reasons i prefer weekly releases.
I honestly thought this was about the leaked episodes
Gonna miss this show so mutch
I am 4:16 into this video and in that time your explanation of this final season needs to be what everybody else watches to understand why the season ended the way it did. Beautiful work! 👏🏻 and now I don’t need to watch it because this is all I needed.
They should have given us 8 or 10 episodes. A final season deserved it.
I just don’t understand something-if they never existed (or were erased), wouldn’t the existence of the children create the grandfather paradox and cause the universe to be erased again?
P.S.: It just occurred to me that Viktor/Vanya was responsible for all the apocalypses in the first three seasons. It’s all happening because of him/her! LOL
i KNEW no questions were going to be legitimately answered when i saw that there were only 6 episodes ☹️
I honestly was not vibing with the show in the middle of season 4. I didn’t like Five and Lila, I didn’t think he would do that to Diego, and I didn’t think he wouldn’t be able to find a way out of the subway in 7 years. With that said, I really can give them credit for ending the show with a sad/bad ending. I’ve never seen a show with that amount of stones to just end a show sadly. And for this show I think it makes sense cause they failed to stop the apocalypse every season. All in all, they definitely rushed this show and it made some questionable choices, but I can appreciate a narrative that actually had some guts to end on that note.
that ben and Jennifer reference, pure gold 😂😂😂😂
You gave me a unique perspective on the ending. I appreciate your work man, attention to the details is immaculate and very nice paced.
How do the kids survive if their parents never existed?
And how did young Jeniffer end up inside a squid?
Right? Doesn't that create another whole grandfather paradox all over again?
Did I miss something? Because at the end of season 3, they showed "Ben" on a train going somewhere, that was never explained.
That’s Sparrow Ben (Ben from seasons 3 and 4). I looked it up cus I was confused too. Apparently that’s him on a subway in Korea doing his crypto scam thing that landed him in jail during the 6 year time skip in between seasons 3 and 4. He just has glasses
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 Oh that's it??? At the end of
season 3 they made it seem like such a big clue for something more grand ,but it was just a tiny portion of sparrow Ben's life that we never even saw.
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 also, how did Lila have her parents? Didn't the handler "adopt" her after killing her parents?
@@ifweseekay Yeah, that’s it. It’s definitely weird they were making it confusing by making him look different. Understandable for everyone to be confused, thinking it’s ANOTHER Ben and ANOTHER plot hole they didn’t address. They did make it seem like it would be some big thing that would be revealed/come up later in season 4.
@@ifweseekay Yeah, the Handler did kill her parents when she was a kid. They’re back because it’s a different timeline. Allison and Reginald at the end of season 3, to get away from the apocalypse, did a universe reset and made a different timeline. So it affected things differently (not completely sure how/what the deal with it all was, since the end of season 3 was confusing). But basically, because of them doing that reset, some people that were dead ended up being alive. Like Lila’s parents, Reginald (Allison killed him with an axe at the end of season 3, but he’s back in season 4), and Reginald’s alien wife. Diego mentions this in ep 1, while on the phone with Lila he says “I’m glad and all your parents are alive in this timeline, but I don’t want them living in my house.”
ok but shoutout to MT and the team for the 'tides of change' pun at 3:30. I like the breakdown on the tree and it makes me feel a little better about the ending. Season felt weirdly rushed. I LOVED the tiny town fight, and how well Claire seemed to balance her mom out. I could have watches a whole lot more of Claire and Uncle Klaus.
Haven't watched past season two so I don't mind being spoiled on how it ends.
Season 3 was tough to get through
@@Custom_Carland let's be real, s4 was even harder
Yeah good it kinda left any sense of a good plot after seasons 2
I recommend to stop watching after s2
lucky
Umbrella academy peaked in the 2nd season. Season 3 was still fun and season 4 was just very disappointing
The first 4 episodes are amazing
(Apologies for my Grammar)
I have one question unsolved, at season one, Ben is always seen arround with Klaus and i dont understand why he didnt tell him that his father was a murderer.
May be he didn't have time to see
Tbh Ben probably didn't remember since he couldn't even remember Jennifer before he died
I thought that too. I was like “ok.. so Reggie wiped all their brains, so they don’t know what happened, but he couldn’t have wiped Ben’s, wouldn’t Ben remember Reggie killing him?” But I think Ben just didn’t see that Reggie shot him. Pretty sure Ben was turned facing away from him when he was shot, and it was a headshot, so he died immediately. And his ghost would’ve popped out of his body and seen Reggie holding the gun, so either that’s a plot hole, or Ben’s ghost just didn’t appear out of his body right away. Just appeared at the funeral when he started talking to Klaus I think
For the Jennifer incident, I had the exact same thought. If Reginald knew the girl was there, why did he send the team there, and not anyone else? Even if he chose to kill them, did he really need to kill Ben as well? Just kill the girl, and save Ben.
Five said that for the original timeline to come back, all the marigold had to be destroyed. And that’s what we see in the last episode, where the umbrella Academy + Lila ofc sacrifice themselves.. except, what happened to that marigold that Klaus splashed on the waiter… meaning all of the marigold wasn’t destroyed, possibly leading to the end of the world once again
Weird that they made a point for him to splash it on the waiter, making it seem like that’ll lead somewhere, only for it to not. Forgot about that.
But no, I think the blob did get to all the marigold eventually. Like after it absorbed them all, it spread to the rest of the city, getting any marigold they spilled. Then everything got fixed
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421I think the splash onto the waiter was there for comedic effect.
@@juancarlosvarela-perez4811 Yeah, I guess. Just a bit odd
questions that I need to be answered by the writers: why did Ray leave? Where is Sloane? What are Diego’s twin’s names and why do they not seem to matter lol? What were the writers thinking when they put Lila and Five together? Why didn’t Viktor absorb all their marigold and sacrifice himself? What was the point of them dying to erase marigold if they just came back as marigold flowers? Did umbrella Ben know he got shot by Reggie because you’d think he’d be fuming during the dinner season in s2. When the siblings saw Ben get shot why did they allow themselves to get brainwashed (because they would’ve had to sit in the machine right?) and also I felt like if Viktor can blow up the moon he could kill bennifer.
here’s some more,
why did Luther get his ape body back after ingesting marigold? Why was Jennifer in a squid and how was that relevant? Season three end credits? Why was there a timeline train station? Literally any explanation to Five creating the commission. How does Lila have a family, is it like a found family or…? Why was Abigail on the moon?
Does anyone know if there’s like a multi-hour long summary video explaining the chronological story of the whole show now? Cuz I feel like they really failed to answer or wrap up a lot of the plotlines from the first 3 seasons due to them only doing 6 episodes and now a lot of my theories are unanswered 😭😭😭😭
Damn I’m just now stupidly learning this show didn’t have a consistent source material that the writer relied on and that he went off the rails to make his own story and now all the random unexplained things that I thought were mere comic references or Easter eggs are just pointless unanswered plot threads (like Lila having laser eyes as part of her innate powers or the fact that Reginald is an alien and somehow unlike the kids, him being alive isn’t part of the reason for the broken timelines due to what I can only assume is that his powers don’t come from marigold and he literally is an alien???)
@@Matt.Radiant What powers do reginald have? and if you thought about it you could have gest reginald was an alien due to the ships and marigold and fields he was seen in when his wife died
@@jackts2375 I just think it’s a let down that the show never DIRECTLY confronted who Reggie was (as an alien) and more of that identity. ESPECIALLY….. since Luther literally has seen with his own eyes that he’s not a normal human. There was a lot of room for questioning but none of it, sadly.
@@jackts2375 I just think it’s a let down that the show never DIRECTLY confronted who Reggie was (as an alien) and more of that identity. ESPECIALLY….. since Luther literally has seen with his own eyes that he’s not a normal human. There was a lot of room for questioning but none of it, sadly.
It bugged me that they made a point of showing Klaus' marigold sake bomb landing on someone that wasn't the siblings, but nothing ever came from that.
This!!
MT! It’s so great to see you doing this breakdown! I hated the way this season ended but amazing job on this video!
They really didnt feel like a family at all this season, just all split up doing their own things while not talking about it together.
Also the whole "relationship" with Five and Lila was so weird, like you're a Uncle, brother/wife, mom, tf u doing??
I was looking forward to this season so much but it felt so rushed, they barely even talked about their powers when they definitely got a upgrade.
It would of also been interesting to see everyone go to different timelines together in the train station, but Five didn't tell anyone about that for some reason.
Season 4 episode 1 : it shows after victor watching reginald tormstone and gone to find his siblings camara shows to five who tried to understand what's going on
☂️☂️☂️ thank you for this vid MT!!!!!! I’m so excited to binge this show. I’m gonna miss it.
Mate, did Netflix just bring in a loaf of random writers and said finish this quickly and fk off.
Did we forget that there’s still one dude that got marigold on them?
You did such a phenomenal job on this breakdown, thank you so much for doing this review! ❤
The fact that the showed got cancelled with 3 Seasons remaining, and that we never got to finish the other power individuals storylines (we watched 7 out 30 sum others), really sucked lol
❤❤❤❤ thank you for the recap
if the umbrella academy kids had to be undone or sacrificed, then what of the other ones that were created. 43 total right?
There’s a lot of little things I didn’t like about this season but episode 2 really felt like the peak of old umbrella academy (even if Luther gets his pogo body back even if it WASN’T HIS ORIGINAL POWER BUT whatever)
I can't believe I was so excited for THIS 😭 What did you do Netflix
Their explanation at the end was so stupid. If the problem was the marigold, which is what Five said, then why didn’t Viktor just take all the marigold and sacrifice himself so the family could survive and have a happy life in one timeline?
They brought up Viktors ability to do it multiple times in the season, and you’d think she’d remember that when she literally tried doing it to Ben within the same hour.
It’s just the GOT treatment, they cut down the episodes from 10 to 6, and rushed the last two episodes hard. They first 4 were honestly pretty good, and given the season had a proper 10 episodes, were on perfect pace. Then they went and gave us a filler plot with Five and Lila that was just weird and unnecessary and did nothing for the season.
It was an awful ending that had a perfect ending right infront of them, yet they just screwed it. But that’s what we get when they had full creative freedom given that it was an original story and not a comic adaptation.
The family were all created by marigold and it might have caused a reset
@@jackts2375That’s what I was thinking. But still though.. after season 3, they had no powers. They had no marigold, it was in a jar. Therefore, the world stopped ending. The world stopped ending for a whole 6 years! Then that world ending cycle only started again once they drank the marigold back. So couldn’t they on the finale have gotten the marigold out of their bodies somehow (maybe with Viktor) and the blob would’ve absorbed the marigold and they’d have been fine? And just became normal humans.
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 multiple timelines would have still been there
@@jackts2375 Yeah I guess multiple timelines would’ve still been there during that time skip. But what about if they took the marigold out of their bodies somehow like they did at the end of season 3 and it ended up in a jar? And the blob could absorb only the marigold from them and spit them back out fine, just normal people.
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 so only if ben drank marigold
They screwed us so bad…every season is 10 episodes except this last one …so dumb… it felt rushed and not thought out 😤😫
Max's Cafe with all the variants of Five reminded me of the Citadel of Ricks from Rick and Morty.
Same
Technically Reginald was raising them to ultimately sacrifice them to save his wife which he tried to do in season 3, he did get his wife back but they were not sacrifice due to Allison intrusion which made it where his wife who is back but knows it meant so many others had died or suffer she decides to fix things and bring back the original time line which would have none of the hargreaves being alive
Oh damn! Already!? I legit just woke up in the middle of the night to see two notifications. One from Netflix saying the new season is out and the other one surprisingly from this channel about an ending explained. You guys are fast!
@@Bowl-O-Noodlez WTF!?
"I think we're alone now..." I am going to miss this, amazing... thanks for the summary of the last characters .
Season 4 was so meh I was like "that's it??" I thought there's some big secret of why the alien dad is on earth. Like from season 1 I already knew that the apocalypse keeps chasing the siblings so obviously they're the problem. Thank goodness they took so long for season 4 to come out, all of my initial hype are gone and I'm now not as dissapointed as I would have if it come out earlier.
Im mad!! Wtf WITH FIVE AND LILA????? just no. FIVE DESERVED love❤ BUT NO WITH LILA. SHE HAVE A CHILDREN AND DIEGO SO WHATT HAPPEN?
They did those characters dirty. Alison and Luther was also weird af
Seriously, like this is the same Five that is 50plus years old mentally lets remember. The same one that still comforted Viktor in a previous season and wanted to return to the family and whats best for them but they had to waste a love interest for him on Lila, Diego's wife? Diego even had his resolution with the CIA and was ready to go home and change for Lila and the family but they destroy it by having her cheat?
They should have atleast give the backstory on regi backstory like why did he come to earth
It was fine, not good but not bad, just not consistent with the other 3 seasons, I enjoyed it, however the hype didn’t match I guess as every show pretty much does. If they actually stuck to 7 season it would have been amazing I’m sure, but like Netflix ruins most shows by cutting them way to early, and leaving some slop to keep running.
It was one of the worst final seasons of tv I’ve ever watched. You’re giving it too much praise imo
I couldn't get past S3. Its been the same plot, oh no its the apocalypse and we started it? Rinse and repeat.
The same feelings about the 3rd season. Glad that I stopped watching in the half of the season and just watched the recap instead of finishing watching. But to be fair, the fourth season was actually not that bad
Also the family is arguing and splitting up again? Got to get them back together to stop the apocalypse
That's literally the point
Season 3: Affirm Me. Regular plot was good but was ruined spending so much time on 7.
@@pskroobwhat the fuck is 7
MT back at it again making the best points and observations!
Why is it that the 8 of them had to sacrifice themselves? What about the other 35 babies?
Five deserved his own love interest
This season makes me want to erase this timeline too
it felt more like a "genie you are free" to the actors more than an actual heartfelt tailored ending