The biggest problem is how bloated the budgets are getting. There is no reason most of these movies should be over $200 Million dollars on their overall budget. Plenty of other movies have shown a smaller budget can still make a lot of money in theaters and on streaming.
Money launderers are getting impatient lol! They need more money now! 🙄😒 like I seriously hope the whole money laundering n Hollywood aren’t true, but with the amount of money they throw into this movies, yea…. 🙄
Easy, its greed. Because if successful, these big budget moves make more money than smaller budget movies. Who cares if its riskier since if they fail, they fail big. Gotta make as much money as humanly possible all the time or die trying. The games industry has the same problem. They have gone all in on this unsustainable strategy.
I mean look at Marvel so desperately tapping RDJ again for lame nostalgia bait (from who? Not me the paying audience for Endgame. Budgets are $200 Million because the cast is eating half of it straight off the top. It is just absurd.
Imagine what they would accomplish if they allocated some of their massive budget into the writers' room. It baffles me that they spend so much money on these spectacles to skimp out on the part of them that will give them lasting power.
Modern Star Wars hurts my fucking head in the way the VFX looks amazing and like Star Wars should look, but its at the service of fucking nothing because there is no story or actual characters. Most movies and shows are like this now.
So true. There a plenty iconic movies that didn't have much budget or special effects but the script is immaculate, so they're still watchable after 10 years
Megalopolis is the most surprising one for me. I studied the original at school and am a huge Adam Driver fan yet didn't know there was a remake til now
@@byejuyo According to Wikipedia: "Set in an alternate, 21st-century New York City (restyled "New Rome"), the film follows visionary architect Cesar Catilina (Driver) as he clashes with the corrupt Mayor Franklyn Cicero (Esposito), who opposes Catilina's plans to revitalize New Rome by building the futuristic utopia "Megalopolis". The film heavily references Roman history, particularly the Catilinarian conspiracy of 63 BC and the transition from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire."
It used to be you didn't know something was going to be a blockbuster, it was something that just happened in the lightning strike sense. Now they burn $300 Million forcing them into existence, and fail as a result because its false. During the making of Star Wars basically everyone thought it was a joke. Alec Guiness probably had a daily freak out like Alexander in Galaxy Quest about how he was a real actor once in his trailer. And in any other time that may have been true but for whatever reason the summer of 1977 was the time and place to catapult this silly space movie into a behemoth that changed Hollywood itself. A true Blockbuster.
@@NathanDrakeTheGreatIt’s kind of crazy how this is one of the most quoted/ relevant lines to come from a movie during our generation. But it’s so accurate haha
What made 80s blockbusters so good is that they were simply making creative movies. They weren't banking on a huge boxoffice. When you bank on the bank, you make boring movies that are safe. NO ONE would make Robocop today. Predator? Jaws? Not a chance.
I agree about RoboCop but Jaws was a huge novel when it came out. That book dominated the culture for months. Not surprised they made a movie out of it.
If I recall correctly, Jaws was the movie that actually INVENTED the idea of the summer blockbuster. It was such an unprecedented success that it kicked into motion a whole new era of moviemaking
Honestly my favourite thing about Argylle was that Dua Lipa was in every trailer and on the poster, despite being in the movie for less time than it took for me to write this comment.
Something I find hilarious is WB’s attitude to Joker. They didn’t think the original would be a success to they passed off a lot of production costs onto other studios, which meant that WB barely saw any of the original’s massive profits. They produced the sequel in house, meaning they’d earn any profit from it, and it’s shaping up to be one of the biggest bombs of the year.
Good. WB should be bankrupt and gone if that is how they do business lol. It really is amazing the unending examples of studios being totally dumbass. They'd buy a successful restaurant, change the Award Winning Burgers to actual dog shit, and wonder why no one comes anymore while calling gaslighting you that your stance of being anti-eating-dogshit is bad.
I used to go to the cinema a lot, but ticket prices have gone up a lot and inflation has hit my budget hard. I simply can't afford to go often anymore. So I've HAD to become much more selective, and I know it's not just me.
@@elisabethb.131 I used to go at least once a month. However ticket prices have skyrocketed post pandemic and now I only go like 5 times a year at best.
Yeah. I used to go to the cinema easily once or twice a month. And I'm not some artistic hipster who only watches arthouse indie movies or something. I'm a rather vanilla milquetoast time who just wants to watch a good, fun movie. Pretty sure I can count the movies I watched in theatres the last two years on one hand. My cinemagoing rate has easily quartered, if not more.
Going to the cinema used to be as accessible as going out for ice cream, even in underdeveloped countries like mine. Before they had children, my parents used to go to the cinema EVERY DAY after work. Nowadays, that is unthinkable.
I worked on some blockbusters as a visual effects artist these past couple of years, and to me it's really clear why they cost so much: because directors don't want to commit to anything BEFORE production starts. They're so used to having control over everything that they would rather have artists work on multiples versions of the same shot to be able to pick and chose their favorite, which costs a lot more. The fun with early "blockbuster" movies such as LOTR was that they had to adapt to constraints, build around them, get creative with the budget. This isn’t the case anymore - if a director thinks they want a water bottle somewhere in the shot, they won't commit to having it on set and they'll have us put it in afterward. That's a lot of time and money put into things that could have been decided in the moment. As a result we end up doing A LOT of overtime, which, again, costs them even more money. I don't see this issue being resolved until directors embrace the joy of problem-solving on set. Cutting corners in a smart way is a beautiful part of creation.
@@Watch.Write.Ramble as someone who's been both the person who says this and the one who has to Fix It In Post, I can 100% say it is NOT WORTH IT JUST DO IT NOW
I'd also like to point out that a crucial part of the reason hand-drawn animation is generally not used for movies anymore in the West (despite financially thriving in other markets, i.e. Japan) is because executives and other leaders generally can't just ask a traditional animator to "edit" their work the same way that animators and artists who predominantly work with CGI can. The budget for animation has always ballooned whenever anyone had to ask animators to completely redo their work because the story wasn't fully worked out in the storyboarding phase. If you look back, it's easy to see the warning signs. When Disney brought in executives from outside the company during the 80s they were frustrated that they couldn't easily tell the crew working on their animated movies to adjust shots or make major cuts and changes. Of course, those executives were all used to working on live-action projects instead. It's interesting to consider how that sort of behaviour has led us to the point we're at now, now that it feels like every movie is expected to be fiddled with until just before it goes into theatres (or even after in the case of a production disaster like Cats 2019)
Thank you for sharing the insider opinion and thank you for your service 👍 I work in 2D animation, not the film industry, but even we see this problem arise during production (though to a way lesser degree, I imagine) Every time there's a big yearly project, it starts off with one script/animatic and ends up having so many (often unnecessary) tweaks and fixes along the way, that we have to work progressively longer hours to catch up with production schedules, and the studio has to start temporarily increasing pay to keep people wanting to work more and for longer hours Every time I hear the same complaints from colleagues about "Why tf are we fixing this when all the deadlines are on fire? Couldn't they thought of this earlier so that we don't have to spend so much time on this now???" Anyway, yeah, I can very easily imagine just how much longer it may take and more it may cost to do different versions/edits/fixes in film production
Small thing, but Sydney Sweeney didn’t do Madame Web so she could do Immaculate. She did it so Sony would green-light Anyone But You (which ended up being wildly profitable). Immaculate was released by Neon and is totally unrelated to her movies with Sony.
nah, she said it was so that she could do Anyone But You and Immaculate. Not so that Immaculate would get greenlit, but so she could take a lower paying job like immaculate because she took the higher paying job of madam web.
@@dylanmeda1596why would she take a higher paying job just to do a low paying job? So Immaculate was a passion project? That's the only thing I can think of right now. It's still early for me so I could be missing sum'n.
Anyone But You is one I've not seen yet but it's on my watchlist (I think). One of the writers wrote a "review" about it on Letterboxd and they're kinda gettin' roasted in the comments section. I feel bad for her.
@@rahbeeuh it is, actually, she has said so. Of all three movies mentioned (Anyone but you, Immaculate and Madame Web), Immaculate is the best one and even yet, it has its flaws: it's not perfect but it's interesting enough. The other two are mediocre at best, but "Anyone but you" at least has in its favor that the lead couple (Sweeney and Glen Powell) had chemistry and that makes the movie more interesting than it should be because the story is really predictable.
The biggest thing I've noticed this year is that advertising for movies don't work like it used to. I never naturally see a trailer or an advertisement for a movie AT ALL these last few years. I could not tell you the last time I saw an advertisement/trailer for a movie that I didn't search for myself on youtube. So where are these millions of dollars in advertising actually going? It just feels like studios are wasting money on advertising because it doesn't actually reach people anymore.
Godzilla Minus One had a budget of less than $15 million and looked visually stunning. Makes you wonder where the budget for all these $200 million movies went
It was written and directed by actually competent and passionate professionals (not shareholders like Hollywood movies) to be fair and that helps a lot lol
It just sounds like no one in hollywood has any business sense anymore, these budgets are utterly insane, how on earth can you expect to make your money back
A lot of people have been pointing out that the insane budgets are the biggest problem facing these movies and while I do agree, I also feel like there’s another working in tandem with it. While this year has slowly brought more people to movie theaters to see a lot of recent hits, the problem of these movies being released on digital services, especially streaming, is as strong as ever. A lot of people have justifiable reasons for not wanting to go to the theater (how much tickets cost, potential troublesome behavior from the community, etc.) but their incentive is being validated when certain films get thrown onto streaming around a month after they release in theaters (sometimes not even that) and it’s really damaging them in the long run.
I still can't get over the fact that they excluded from the movie that ICONIC line "he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died". That line was like 90% of the reason why I watched the movie.
I’m genuinely surprised that studios saw the success of films like The Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity and hadn’t tried to make films with the least budget possible (without looking cheap). Hell, it’s basically A24’s bread and butter.
Thats how old sequel franchise movies were made, em not being stupidly expensive. I mean the brandon phaser mummy movies were good but 3, but you can only turn out that much sequels and money if you budget economicm, aka lots ogf schlocky looking that you give a charm, haha
those films did create an entire sub genre of found footage films that allowed access to filmmaking for people that wouldn’t have been able to have the money to make a horror film, but I get what you’re saying. It’s evident that a great storyline and film can be made with a low budget, and studios don’t seem to care. I do notice studios sometimes churning out horror films (blumhouse specifically) and just knowing that they can spend less than 10 million and hopefully make somewhat of a profit.
It's because of greed, I see a movie with a 1 million dollar budget make 80 million and say "wow, that movie made 80 times its budget" a movie exec sees "eh, it made 79 mil". They'd much rather see a 300 million dollar movie make 850 million, even if it's almost the same profit, with a much less rate of return, big numbers means big business for their company
Mad Max is also a low-buck stunner by a guy who's day job was a Paramedic. They had to steal street signs and crashed one of the producers cars for a shot. I think it was Blair Witch that finally overtook it on the production to take ratio.
When my dad and I went to see 'Dune 2' earlier this year, he remarked afterwards that every single trailer before the film started was for a sequel, remake, or something in a preexisting franchise. It's depressing.
Same with the proliferation of "tribute bands" in the live music industry. Unfortunately I blame it on a public focused on nostalgia, on looking backward rather than forward.
How much money do these execs think we have?? Even if every studio released banger after banger, they refuse to acknowledge that tickets are expensive, people go to work, kids are in school, and even streaming services can't save these bad decisions. I think i only saw 3 movies in theaters this year and only one was a 2024 movie.
Exactly this. They all think they're gonna be THE ONE we'll spend our money on but these days tickets are so expensive that I'm simply not going unless I know the movie has incredible writing and cinematography. I could care less about certain actors like it's gonna be on streaming anyway. The only reason I'd watch that on the big screen is... Well how it looks and feels to watch.
I disagree with a statement in the video where it says that blockbusters come out any time of year. Most of time, January, August, and September have no films that qualify as "blockbusters."
I haven't seen a movie in theatres since before covid, and I used to go at least twice a year. Partly money, partly lack of interest in what's being released, partly streaming, partly shifting priorities. I feel like there's been a big change in audience behaviour that studios aren't really accounting for
The list of “flopbusters” made me laugh because they’re like all movies that me and my husband put on when we know we’re probably going to fall asleep halfway through… maybe I’m the the reason these exist 😂
so I saw most of these movies in theater because there's nothing else to do in a small town for dates .. and let me tell you, its smart thinking... I slept through almost all of them. I think the only movies I stayed awake for this year were barbie and ... was blue beetle this year? that was it. lol
Well that depends. How many people are you employing? Are you going to pay them what they deserve or less(or more)? What kind of movie do you want to make(genre influence many things like effects, how many different scenes or cuts you make, etc...)? Like, there are reasons to why a movie costs a lot, and inflation is important to consider cause the people working on the movies also live in our world and are subject to it.
@ very true! In my mind I’m thinking about the actors and how many people needed to make a movie have life and I was thinking their portion of the pay, travel and food etc would make a significant chunk of that the movie cost as well. Especially mad max with the world building needing so many actors to feel fleshed out.. I find it interesting that’s never really put into the numbers like marketing is or if that’s hard to put a number on that.
How about a movie with 4500 people on staff that takes about a year to be filmed? It would come up at about $19 usd per hour per person which is the minimum wage in Hollywood and they wouldn't be able to meet it with less than 250 million dollars. Wow. Sad to hear you support paying people less than minimum wage. Shame on you.
Crazy that the entire Sonic movie trilogy has a combined budget of $300M, while just one MCU movie can hit that same number nowadays. That being said, I’d like to take the time to plug a fun 1:47 little indie movie called Your Monster, which was made with a $300k budget.
One important thing to notice is that in many countries people are getting poorer (even while employed in the same job as before) and that definitely makes going to the movie theater not possible for many. My family and I used to go every week, then over the years (ince slightly before the pandemic) we started going less and less until recently we basically stopped. And is not that there weren't any movies we were interested in.
What is the experience now for most. Go to a run down theater because its run by a 22 year old manager and a gaggle of dipshit teenagers, overpay for stale popcorn and a jumbo box of candy that is 1/4 full, which is also poor quality and tastes like shit. And then the pleasure of the crowd of social media addicted miscreants that ruin actually watching it. For this: $200 for a family of 4. Im just glad my taste in movies tends to only bring other nerds that actually want to STFU and watch too, Dune/Dune2 was sweet in IMAX.
I'm mexican and our main cinema chain is so affordable and fantastic. Like for the price I pay for a ticket here in Germany (I moved) I can get 2 tickets, two big sodas, big popcorn and 2 crepes in Mexico, I lived in Tijuana so it was common to see Americans in the English screenings. I used to go every week, sometimes twice or 3 times and now here in Germany we have to choose carefully what we want to watch cus it's too expensive to risk watching an awful movie, I felt like I got robbed when we watched Quantmmania
What I find ridiculously funny is that they gave us streaming platforms especifically so we dont have to go to the movies anymore and then acted surprised when people followed their advice, what? They were expecting people to keep going to the cinema after being convinced to stay at home? Its just crazy
Movie tickets are also getting more expensive. I wanted to go see Wicked last week. The tickets in the local (small town) cinema were 14 pounds! They used to be about 10/11 pounds just a few months ago. I love movies but I'm not gonna pay 14 pounds every time I want to see a movie (especially if it's something I only have a casual interest in seeing).
But how maby streaming services do you subscribed to? I have 3, tried 2 other ones. Going to try a few other ones during the holidays... Cinema ceased being worth it unless a Dune equivalent comes out...
"The Crow" remake should NEVER have been made. The death of Brandon Lee has cemented that movie as a cult classic that CANNOT be displaced. This was the literal definition of throwing money away. The fact that it was a terrible movie didn't help either.
There definitely is room for other Crows but Eric/Eric Draven should be retired. Eric isn’t the only Crow, even in the comics. I would’ve loved to have seen Bill Skaarsgard as one of the other Crow iterations. There was one named Null Narcos who is a performer in an extreme circus. That sounds just like his cup of tea. Spoiler: The fact that they made Eric and Shelly drug addicts was downright offensive, if you’ve seen The Crow ‘94 then you understand why. I just don’t understand what it is they were trying to do with this one. Missed opportunities and money down the drain.
See, on one hand yes, but on the other, when the troubled history of the project was being recounted, a genius idea entered my brain. Big tiddy goth GF Crow. Low-ish budget, don't try to hard being smart, just, you know, John Wick it up with undead female protagonist and goth aesthetics. Would it it make a lot of money? Unlikely. But I would probably enjoy it.
@@SomeThingOrMaybeAnotherI actually think that might be kinda cool (sans big TT. That’s just not necessary. 😂). She’d be like Fairuza Balk’s Nancy Downs. Like The Craft meets John Wick. Add Trent Reznor for the score and it could be really fun.
Just saw the interview where Aaron Taylor Johnson said 28 years later made him love acting again, and the trailer looks great so.... tentatively hopeful that's the one shining light next year 😭
I am being so for real when I say this: I genuinely didn't know the Borderlands movie even HAPPENED until I saw a big poster for it while I was at the theater for a different movie.
Me too. I was supposed to meet someone near my work and didn't have enough time to go home and back so I just walked into the cinema to see what was on and that's when I found out about it.
Idk where the marketing budget for these films goes but it is being mishandled. The Barbie Movie's marketing was definitely a huge part of its success, and the total budget for that movie is LESS than like half of all these films. Try harder guys
Barbie wasn't really that advertised, it just got insanely lucky to be part of the Barbenheimer meme. I doubt it would have gotten a billion dollars otherwise.
@@Marcelelias11no offense but this is painfully untrue. Barbie had an original soundtrack with many popular female artists used to advertise the trailers that blew up online, huge budget posters that sold out, and partnerships like Chevron and Air BnB. Barbenheimmer had absolutely no affect on Barbie's popularity. It certainly helped Oppenheimer though
@@Marcelelias11you were not the target demographic with any of the actors, singers, or generation group of people because there were ads everywhere for that movie. The Barbenhiemer meme definitely upped it a good amount, and helped out Oppenheimer tremendously
I remember this twitter post I saw that said 'for the love of God PLEASE bring back mid-budget movies' and showed screenshots of Legally Blonde and Sister Act. And something about seeing those films described as mid-budget really surprised me. Those films were HUGE, they both made great amounts at the box office, became cult classics, and even got sequels that I'm sure weren't good, but that's beside the point Some of the most popular, well-liked films of time periods are always the cheaper ones. Rush Hour had a 35 million dollar budget and made over 3 times that amount, and is iconic to this day There's no room for these films anymore. And I think that's said. The only example of this I can think of is Lisa Frankenstein, and that sadly wasn't the hit it should have been
@@Meanne77 I have to disagree because I love long movies lol. But I think that people would like long movies more if they were better made. Most long length films are only long because the directors don't know how to cut a scene
Being a bit pedantic here, but I wouldn’t call them cult classics. The Crow was a cult classic. Legal Blonde and Sister Act were just solid mainstream comedies. They don’t make pure comedies anymore. It’s gotta be a hybrid - action comedy, fantasy/adventure comedy, etc.
@@adeleaslan8182I love long movies too, but today it's just absurd, everything is nearly three hours long. I work at a movie theater, and when I saw the length of Wicked on a spreadsheet when it came out I almost busted out laughing in front of my coworkers, only to find out later, that it's not even a full movie, it ends with a "to be continued"!! Absolutely wild
Dune had relatively simple sets and in general much less CGI. A lot of what we see are based on miniature models. Wide-pan shots including VFX are relatively short. They also built a bunch of sets, and used practical effects whenever possible. In contrast is Red One who had a bunch of CGI characters. That alone eats up a big part of the budget. Plus the movie relied on the use of CGI vs practical effects.
The budgets are getting bigger and yet the cgi looks worse, the sets look worse, no practical effects, horrible choreography, shit costumes... like where tf is that money going?!?!?
So many of these shows are written by nobodies instead of seasoned writers despite the untold millions they have at their disposal. It's such a bizarre place to cost cut considering it's the literal foundation of your entire movie. Either that or they're all written by talentless nepo-babies.
@@blubug768 to the cgi actually. Execs will demand a movie be appealing to as broad an audience as possible, which is super boring in reality, then make a bunch of changes while filming and that will force the cgi artists to overwork to fix the movie. In the end you get boring schlop that costs way too much money and isn't even heartfelt enough for us to connect with it like any good story should.
52:08 I keep forgetting Red One is a theatrical release, and being surprised it hasn't shown up on Netflix yet, then being surprised it's in theatres. I've gone through this cycle like twice this week.
😂😂 me too. I honestly thought Red One was a direct sequel to Red Notice that was also from Netflix that cost lot of money. It's funny to think Red One is not even a netflix release that certainly look like a netflix movie lol.
It’s on Prime, and Amazon has been featuring it in its holiday commercials. If they intended it to be the tentpole of their holiday streaming, then why bother spending all the money on top line effects and The Rock?
Stranger Things is the most expensive TV show at 30 million dollars per episode. They generally have about 8 episodes per season. It costs less to make a season of Stranger Things that lasts about 10 to 12 hours with the longer episode runtime. Each episode of Stranger Things looks higher quality than this 2 hour long Christmas movie made for 10 million dollars more and a year long production delay that was not spent on polishing the CGI
"The entire Season 2 of Arcane cost 250M$ as well" I find that so surprising.. I only watched the first episode but I noticed such a drastic drop in quality in terms of the animation(HEAVY use of mocap, very little flair) and cinematography(no dynamism in the camera moves, zero artistry in the framing and shot composition) that i assumed the budget had been hacked to pieces and the top tier talent wasn't rehired. It really felt like they brought in a budget studio that could coast on all the previously created assets.
@@francb1634yeah because you watched literally one episode 😭 I'm not gonna deny that the animation didn't drop a bit but holy shit you're just loud and wrong 💀 like I said, you watched on episode, if you bothered to watch more you can see the animation evolves, they literally had to crunch to get this shit out and were overworked to shit, what did you expect. There's barely a noticeable drop off so it's crazy you said this at all 😭 do you not know how animation works
@@francb1634You sure you were watching Arcane? Cuz there was no mocap in season 2. There's keyframe animation in both seasons, but a lot of animated movies use it so that's not a big deal. The animation quality remains consistent in both seasons. Furthermore, Fortiche did the animation for both seasons. Idk what you saw in S1 that wasn't in S2, but as far as I can tell, the show's animation and cinematography is stellar from beginning to end.
I did a grad school project on Warner Bros Discovery’s financials this year, so this video was pretty wild 😂 I don’t understand how these people have jobs
The crow was my favorite film from middle school to the end of highschool. This films announcement, the remake, was something i got over the moment i saw it
I feel like when I go to the movies I always see commercials for amazing upcoming movies and then every time I actually want to go to the movies there’s never any good movies out.
God yes. Especially when my local theatre is stuffed with whatever franchise film is in for 7/10 theatres and then it’ll have a single screen for like, a foreign film… maybe??? And I saw a lot more movies this year bc I was going on dates. We saw some trailers we liked but the films? Were flash in the pan and not even in the theatre we saw advertised? It was so whack.
My problem is that the only time I ever have money for movies is after Christmas. But January and February are infamously terrible months for movies and they only ever have shit
I didn’t even know Fly Me to the Moon was a rom-com. I thought Hollywood was just going insane & making a movie claiming the moon landing was fake. I’m dying that this was a comedy & I had no idea despite watching the trailer! I thought it was low key a documentary.
I had never heard of it until I saw it on the in-flight entertainment list. Then mid-way through, I also thought "holy cow, are they going to say the moon landing was faked?! As a real thing????" And then it was, blessedly, not about that (tongue-in-cheek).
I've got a feeling that The Crow remake's production history would make for a more interesting and emotionally charged film than the actual final product.
I had to pause the video and reflect when you said that Red One, a Christmas comedy, costed more money than Dune 2, one of the most impressive SF movie of the last few decades. Why do we even pay The Rock so much money? Aren't most of his recent movies flops?
the big question is why people thought that idea was gonna make money. I watched the trailer on TV and I was like "that sounds like a dumb and stupid movie".
*cost "costed" isn't a word. I'm not being a jerk; English is my second language and I'm just passing on mistakes I've made so another person doesn't make them as well
Also I always feel like the Rock just like.... Plays as himself? Like it doesn't feel like acting. Also that budget was disastrous. What do you mean that Red One and ARCANE had the same budget???
I’m at number two right now, but I can’t wrap my head around the fact that The Rock got paid $50 million. And this is the same guy that killed the Shazam franchise! What are they smoking in Hollywood!?
I don’t know i blame the people who cast Dwayne Johnson more than i blame Dwayne Johnson. Maybe im not getting something here but the people who cast him knew what they were getting so i don’t see how thats Dwaynes fault. It’s perfectly within Dwaynes rights to be a bad actor.
@@queenofcookie3299 Will note, being a bad actor is not the same thing as being a bad actor. He's in his rights to play the same character over and over again, but like, outright demanding so much money that retroactively sabotages the project's financial chances… Amongst other things. Yeah no, he's a _bad actor,_ and not just as a literal actor.
@@slsthewriter1299 i mean fair enough i mostly just have a general problem with people saying an actor and their ability is the problem when its actually the person who cast them that screwed up. I do see how Dwayne is a bit more complicated there but in a way i still cant help but think that they could have said no and gotten a diffrent actor. However and i do mean big however its always hard to know what went on behind the scenes with stuff like this and who had dirt or power over whom and if the person making choices really ever had the option to decline. I do think his crime is minimal for this specific movie since it was never intended to be a good movie in the first place.
@@jamescarr1265 yeah it definetly is but they (at least from what i know) didnt have to agree to the offer. They could have said no and chosen a diffrent actor for the role especially knowing it would completely ruin them financially to accept it but again its hard to know what goes on behind closed hollywood doors. I do think its important to remember for this instance that the movie was never meant to be good. The movie was planned and made with mediocrity in mind so i cant really say Dwayne asking for that much money ruined anything since it never would have been a good movie in the first place.
Yes, I love this era! The same is happening in the gaming industry. Big companies are finally realizing that they can't bullshit us with sparkly but crappy blockbusters anymore. They're finally realizing that they need to actually put in some effort into their products. I'm very excited to see the death of blockbusters and AAA games, which, hopefully, will lead the way to lower budget, but better thought out movies and games.
I can't speak for everyone, but there's a lot of stuff that came out this year I WANTED to see, but going to the cinema has become an unaffordable luxury and something that is very easy to cut out of my budget. Been twice this whole year...
Yes this. I used to go to the cinema multiple times a month when I was a teen. I haven't been at all since 2019, simply because there has not been a single Hollywood movie I have been willing to spend that amount of money on. I haven't watched anything from Hollywood at all this year, I haven't missed it, other countries are making far better shows now.
In the UK we get 2 for 1 tickets typically totalling to $10. Throw in a bag of some store bought snacks makes it an affordable regular thing to do with my other half!
@@ilovefishcurry I am also in the UK and largely, no we don't unless youre very lucky to have a cheap Indie cinema on your doorstep, are under 18 or go can on a weekday before 6pm. For most people who are stuck with just one of the major chains, you're looking at £12-16 per ticket ($15-$20 US)
@@ParanoiDave yes we do, if you’re either with O2 or Vodafone they give you 2 tickets for £8 every week at VUE or Odeon. So use a friend they’ll usually help you out with vouchers. You can also get 2 IMAX tickets for £18.
Same, but part of that is because it costs literally $100 just to have someone watch my kid so I can pay $47 to see a movie with my husband (2 tickets to Wicked this weekend literally cost $47 with taxes 1:12:06 like what)
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Its like the execs simply dont understand the value of lower budgets anymore, a movie cant be a 20-25 million $ project with an auteur director with a vision and if it bombs, it doesnt make headlines and destroy careers. But NO, every movie now HAS to have an inflated 150-300 million $ budget project with a star studded cast and immense studio oversight because studios apparently expect every single movie to break box office records every single time and then have the gall to act shocked when they are all flops.
All the movies they keep making the 10th shitty sequel or prequel too started life as tight-budget bone crunchers like Terminator, Predator, etc. Not made to be the start of a cinematic universe, just a bunch of guys on coke decided to make a monster movie, or a weird movie with space wizards and some farm boy lol. Limitations bred creativity which breeds iconic moments and characters. Give some hungry directors $50 Million and let them run. Even if it only makes $10 Million its still profit instead of a $200 Million smoking hole in your ledger on a bad bet. Modern Hollywood is a pig trough filled with recycled food.
The key to underestanding the love for the Venom movies is understanding one key element of them. They are rom-coms before they are any kind of superhero movies. Hell, the last movie even had it in the title. The last dance. And if you have to ask who the couple is...
I think too the fact that they listened to the audience. They saw that's what people liked about the first movie and leaned into it, so even if the movies themselves aren't great they have a very devoted audience who will always show up.
Ok Snow White and the Huntsman is memorable to me because it had some of the best costumes I've ever seen, designed by Colleen Atwood. The movie wasn't great but every outfit she designed for Charlize Theron was a masterpiece!
1. Yeah I hated the Venom & Costello movies too. 2. Why they insist on making "Spider-Man" movie minus Spider-Man is a mystery to me. 3. Megalopolis will probably join Spielberg's Fabelmans and Scorsese's Irishman and Killers of the Flower Moon with double digit Oscar noms and zero wins. 4. When people complain about studio interference, the flip side to that is Megalopolis. A film where no one was there to say 'no' Coppola.
A lot of people prefer venom over spider man, myself included. Venom is goofy in his new iteration and it’s fun af. Brock is a sweetheart who isn’t being cucked by q dude named Paul. It’s about time us venom-heads eat good
To be fair Megalopolis was purely a vanity project on Coppola's part, and he probably was happy the movie got made; he probably didn't care whether or not it made money. There's nobody to say no to the director when he funded the entire thing himself. I'm sure he was hoping it got better reviews than it did though.
One of many problems why movies are flopping is that people are not as financially stable as they used to be. So even if one WANTED to go and watch a movie they were interested in, it would be hard justify it financially. And a lot of you may be saying, "how hard is it to dish out $14 for a movie ticket?" It's very hard for people living pay cheque to pay cheque and for people barely making ends meat.
@@georgethompson913 I forgot about the food. It's pretty ridiculous that you are either dishing out more for overpriced snacks or just sit unable to enjoy a movie the way you want.
This is a good point but also my thinking has always been “eh, movie looks like shit…guess ill pirate it later.” I swore to never pay for a movie after The Whale lol. But yeah, my bf who is a movie guy often says he would like to go to the theater but cant justify the cost of tickets.
It's very odd to me that when these small budget high quality movies do insanely well that the lesson learnt is not "take smaller financial risks on smaller movies" but is instead "sink a fuck ton of money into an unnecessary sequel that no one wants and the writers dont have a solid concept for"
Actually, the oldest director in activity is Clint Eastwood. The man is 94 years-old and just released Juror #2. Can't wait to see it when is streaming in my country!
the first joker was also popular because it was released in an environment of such utter garbage that people were desperate for anything remotely resembling fair filmmaking
As an international viewer, in the context of the Venom movie, I would like to mention the dubbing of the film. I did not watch it in any language, but if a Hollywood movie has a mediocre or generic writing/script with good or even okay visuals, then the dubbing team can turn the film into something really amazing. Given they know the market and target audience in their country. So considering this, the fact ‘Venom: The Last Dance’ was saved by international audiences is more than reasonable. Again, I did not watch it, but I do know the camerawork and CGI were done well. Though with that I also want to add that if a film has great writing in English, it is really difficult for it to succeed after translation. A good example for this would be Deadpool and Wolverine. Watching it with the original audio with translated subtitles was really weird. The two dialogues had completely different vibes, giving them completely different characteristics and personalities. My sister and I watched it with the original audio, my parents watched it with dubbing. They aren’t really into superhero movies, they are part of a different generation in terms of cinematic experiences and expectations, but my dad legit slept in while watching it, and my mom had a lot of complaints about it. This got a bit long, but yeah. TLDR, dubbing is important when talking about a movie’s international success or failure.
@@jamescarr1265 Not at all. And let’s not mention the references not making sense. Either because of the translation of this movie, or because of the translation of the referenced one. There were other things added with the same kind of humor, but that doesn’t come across as well because of the change in their personality (which is either a voice acting or a writing issue).
Yeah that's why so many unpopular tv shows and movies are popular in Brasil for example, we have great dubbing here and it's often that they save bad projects
Lately I've been paying more attention to dubbing aspects of a film and how much it can actually improve or decrease the quality of said media. And yeah, when a dubbing team know what they're doing any movie gets better by default. Sometimes the dubbing actors are even better than those on the actual movie, which is insanely amazing to me
"I don't want the singing anymore." They knew that the musical aspect would be almost universally despised, so they preemptively wrote it into the script.
I don't know anything about the movie, but I know for a fact it was all Gaga style music and it was probably mostly ballads. I can't stand Gaga's need to sing ballads. Her voice works for pop (maybe pop rock), not anything with a slowish tempo. Perfect Illusion works a lot better to me than Million Reasons (I can not stand this song, it's so bad to me). If the movie wasn't a musical and more inline with the previous movie it probably would've at least broke even on that budget.
I wouldn't say it's a normal musical tho, the musical aspect is just a part of their shared delusions of grandure and fantasies, I thought it worked for the most part. But I did think there were too many songs honestly. I didn't hate the ending, sure it wasn't satisfying, but his life was brutal and tragic. It was very realistic. Which is why I loved the first one as well.
I heard there's still people that actually like musicals, but I can't imagine there's a huge overlap between them and people that would want to see a Joker sequel. But they managed to take two things that don't go well together and make a movie both groups hated, so there's that...
Agreed. Saw both in theaters (for work) and the quality differential was crazy. Which is wild coming from me because I usually don’t like superhero stuff but wow …. Twisters…. Didn’t need to be made 😂
I think people liked the idea of a "fresh" new movie. Like, I know it is a remake, but it is noticeably NOT a superhero movie. That's why I liked it at least lol
Nowadays with people knowing a lot about actors, casting likeable ones really helped Twisters succeed in its marketing. Same goes for the Fallout show this year.
As someone who saw dead pool twice both times the only other choice was twister so the other movies out no one cares for def helps this! Lol it literally was those 2 movies or random stuff
I genuinely thought Argylle was a musical coming to my city, the billboards were so bad at telling people what it was and I'd seen no other marketing for it
Doing a remake of The Crow nowadays (like many attempts of remaking 80s and 90s movies) was a foretold failure... because not only the original movie and the protagonist's performance are awesome and became cult especially with the tragedy of Lee's death, but also it seems that Hollywood is currently stucked in a cinematographic era of zero risks (writing, directing...), meaning bland/dull/coming from the same mold/PC movies, which is totally incompatible with, and cannot compete with the original ones from 80s and 90s. Also, in The Crow remake, the few changes regarding the story and the storytelling really worsened the result.
The fact that transformers one, one of the few big budget movies I enjoyed this year (the other ones being DP&W, Beetlejuice2, and Inside out 2), was glanced over bc of its awful marketing angers me to no end Of course THAT had to be the one to be cursed with the worst marketing. At least wild robot had great marketing Independent filmmakers stay winning
Transformers one was fine lol…. Like ten years ago that would have been a decent animated movie nothing spectacular. I repeat I enjoyed it, there is no part of my body that regretted not seeing it in theatres lol. It wasn’t that good voices were kinda weird in my opinion . I guess I’m just confused as to what people consider great movies or very good at least. I can understand why people might like it a lot though. Wolverine and Deadpool just isn’t for me as I have never been a fan of film Deadpool in the slightest . Sucks because Wolverine is my favorite marvel character but again I can kinda see the appeal . Wild robot is on my list excited for that one since I know nothing about it.
Unfortunately the same is NOT happening with triple A games. Gamers are willing to dish out for an immoral, buggy mess of a game for $70 simply because they decided to invest in nothing else in their lives and need to occupy their time in the only way they know how. It's sad.
Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn was something i was really excited for. Love or hate her music, she just fits that character in theory - at least in my opinion. The moment they said it would be a musical however... it really made me nervous. Then the trailer dropped, and all hope went out the window, and then the synopsis was released by then - doomed.
I'm in the same boat you are. Lady Gaga is the perfect choice for a more "realistic" or "gritty" Harley compared to the equally excellent Margot as a more comic book Harley...but the movie clearly wasn't continuing that realistic bent. I haven't even seen it. I loved the Joker movie as a standalone, but I hated it as any sort of "origin story" for the actual Joker. It's a fantastic look at how people slip through the cracks of the system. It honestly felt more like a movie about mental health that got reworked to have the Joker name for marketing. It's not the right vehicle to do a Nolan-esque origin for Joker, imo.
It seemed to me that they hired her to sing and couldn’t care less for her acting. Which was a huge detriment because she showed a lot of improvement there compared the her previous acting projects.
I started, a couple of months ago, to start watching movies I've never seen, since there are a ton of classics that I've never seen. I'm still going through it and there are still some big movies I hadn't seen, but going through this experience really opened my eyes to how much modern blockbusters suck. It really feels like even the movies I watched in the last couple of months that I just thought were "meh" were better than anything I've seen a major studio like Disney or WB put out in years... Kinda sad
I think this isn't really a fair comparison. This seems like the same argument that old heads in music make to say modern music sucks. The older movies you're watching seem to only be classics that stood the test of time to be remembered and not the major flips like Cleopatra or the movies so bad they don't get rereleased. With any media, overtime the middling offers and most boring gets forgotten.
I watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington last month and didn't think I would like it; I ended up being late to work because of how compelling the story was and I couldn't stop watching it, Jimmy Stewart was truly one of the best actors ever
Apparently one reason why Red One cost so much is because Dwayne Johnson was constantly late to film so everyone had to film around him. Also he really wanted the movie to be in IMAX.
Why didn’t they just fire the guy. He’s likable but not in a ‘people won’t watch the movie if they learned he was fired’ kind of way. He’s an Ok actor at his best. There’s 20 different actors that could have easily stepped into the role. John Cena is #1 that comes to mind. He probably would have done it for cheaper and had better reputation.
I have a coworker who tells me Red One is so good and is telling me to go see it. She keeps telling me how it's logical for Santa to be fit because he goes down every chimney...
All of these flops either have a major flaw that turned off audiences or they were just movies that people didn't ask for and didn't want. Hollywood needs to get back to making crowd pleasers if they want to keep this industry alive for the next decade.
Furiosa: mad max been over for years and since it's not a "Sequel" to the originals nobody cared Joker 2: the entire point of the original ending was that it was a 1 thing movie and have the watcher decide in there head what the ending ment, it dosent need to exist..... so nobody cared Transformers 1: transformers been dead for years and nobody cares anymore as seen with ROTB
As one of the three people who had no idea who Francis Ford Coppola was before she watched your video (and who has also never seen The Godfather), I’m quite proud of Gramps for chasing the dream for decades and finally seeing the results of his work. Not every piece of art has to resonate with a broader audience. Sometimes, the audience is just one person - you - and you can certainly buy yourself some flowers 💐
In 2019, I could not escape The Joker. The memes were everywhere, the compliments and raves about the movie were all over my social media feeds, my friends even forced me to watch it in 2022😂 the fact that everyone is trying to gaslight eachother into pretending The Joker phenomenon never happened is unbelievable to me
I don’t think about Silicon Valley very often, but one scene I think about all the time is when Richard is waffling over accepting a huge amount of investment capital because he’s worried that with all that money shoved into his project, it’s way less likely that they’d break even let alone make a profit. He meets up with an old friend who had that very thing happen to him and asks, “What would happen if I took less money?” And the friend looks like he got slapped in the face, asking, “Oh my god, why didn’t I ask for less money?!” Anyway that’s how I feel about Hollywood, except I don’t think anyone will ask for less money, because I truly believe these bloated blockbusters are just money laundries.
I think one of the biggest issues Hollywood has right now is budgets are way too bloated. Decrease these budgets by half or more and we'll see way more "hits" at the box office. Also, spending more money does not make a movie better. Godzilla Minus One was one of the best, if not the best, movie to come out last year and it had a budget of 10 million. It made 11x that at the box office, making it a hit. Of Hollywood had made it with the types of budgets it gives movies, it would have been considered a flop.
AAA videogames are having the same issue... budgets are through the roof, visuals are high while actual quality is often mediocre at best. There's been several high-profile flops this year in particular.
@Rietto Exhibit A: Concord. The budget, including marketing (even making a short episode about it on Secret Level that came out this month) and buying out the studio that made it, was $400 MILLION!!!! And all for something that barely lasted 2 weeks.
The fact that The Crow reboot mishaps are so old that you can pull footage from AMC movie Talk into when they were taken over by Collider, really shows you how long that project went through developmental hell.
This year I came to respect M. Night Shyamalan a little more. Not because I thought Trap was all that great (or most of his other films from the last twenty years), but because he seems to realize there's not much of a career in making expensive bombs. He briefly tried his hand at making big-budget movies (The Last Airbender, After Earth), which did not work out, so he simply went back to making modestly budgeted films that still are interesting enough to gain some attention. They always make their money back and sometimes even hit it (relatively) big. Maybe more people in Hollywood should strive for that instead of trying the James Cameron method (investing hundreds of millions, expecting to make billions), because so far that method has only worked for James Cameron...
That’s over 90% of the budget that original movie had all together, why did they think this would do the same numbers as last time with that high of a budget 😭
I first misheard Megalopolis as Metropolis when it was announced and it sounded normal that someone made a remake of Metropolis (1927) since this year we were also getting a remake of Nosferatu (1922).
I always find it crazy that one of the main shots of borderlands where they open that door at 57:20, there’s a crew member helping the actors open the door. WILD
i feel like all the movies from this year and last year sucked so bad because of the writers strike. Movies and television shows don’t feel the same anymore.
The two biggest crimes of joker 2: Making Harley (a famous abuse victim) the villain and the reason the joker became who he is. Using that tired old “he’s a murdered because he has dissociative identity he cant help it!” bs. That shit has haunted people with DID for decades now. People tell their loved ones they have a complex trauma disorder and get split throw at them and half jokingly asked if they are a murderer. This is not okay and the film industry needs to stop pushing this god damn narrative or people with DID will have to continue to hide their diagnosis from people in fear of mockery and violence.
He didn’t have DID… he admitted he doesn’t. He has a persona that comes out when people brought up his trauma and I think thats a legit thing that happens. Why couldn’t Harley be reimagined as a realistic take? I mean if you want the Joker film but to make it unrealistic like what happens in the comics then you could watch any other film. Harley being an obsessed stalker that seeks out someone else’s trauma because she was bored and unappreciative of what she has and wants to identify with victimhood is very on brand for todays society. I feel like the audience got called out and didn’t like it. What killed the film for me was how it ended. Not because I don’t feel like it was a good ending but because the transiton to the actual Joker wasn’t well explained and I had to read about it. It should have built to it. I feel like he didn’t reach the top of the fame. He sort of did and when people realised he wasn’t going to be the joker and was going to take accountability, they left him, because they didn’t actually care about why or what or how, they wanted chaos. Which represents Gotham. Harley is reimagined. Perhaps theres someone else who is actually Harley Quin.
@username_creates6991 harley quins story of grooming and abuse is perfectly realistic, it doesnt matter if the movie says "but oh no he doesnt actually have it" they are still contributing to the problem by chosing to bring up this disorder in the manner they did. Also no it is not a legit thing that happens outside of a few set disorders like DID. From what i remember he admited to there being no persona and that it was all him even if he would like to pretend it wasnt not sure if thats quite what happened its been a while. Even if they are talking about a specific symptom of ptsd that would still be problematic as it is simply not a movie that is equipped to handle those kinds of sensitive topics with the nuance and care they deserve.
It’s pretty clear Fleck doesn’t have DID. That was kind of the point of the movie. Joker was a facade, and he wasn’t this persona he created. People only cared about him as the Joker, not the pathetic man behind the makeup.
Oh great youtube delted my reply. In short i am aware he doesnt have DID but bringing it up in that context as even a possible explanation for what he did is enough to continue the stigma because it simpley isnt a possibile explanation. DID would not cause any of the violent behaviour shown by the joker and presenting DID as if it could (even if they then say no that wasnt it after all) is enough to continue to the stigma of people with DID being mindless killers. They still fundamentally misrepresented DID
I wonder if that would work. Movie theaters are pretty pricey, and folks are very accustomed to streaming stuff. Folks could just give up on movies period if that happens.
I honestly didnt even know Argylle was a movie. Like... I saw teaser that was just different characters saying 'Argylle' and I just assumed it was an ad for a new perfume or something??!!!
The audacity of these studios to pay The Rock 50 million dollars just to see him play himself again like every movie he stars for the last couple years
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Wait amoment, Wolfs came out in 2024?
The biggest problem is how bloated the budgets are getting. There is no reason most of these movies should be over $200 Million dollars on their overall budget. Plenty of other movies have shown a smaller budget can still make a lot of money in theaters and on streaming.
Money launderers are getting impatient lol! They need more money now! 🙄😒 like I seriously hope the whole money laundering n Hollywood aren’t true, but with the amount of money they throw into this movies, yea…. 🙄
Easy, its greed. Because if successful, these big budget moves make more money than smaller budget movies. Who cares if its riskier since if they fail, they fail big. Gotta make as much money as humanly possible all the time or die trying.
The games industry has the same problem. They have gone all in on this unsustainable strategy.
I mean look at Marvel so desperately tapping RDJ again for lame nostalgia bait (from who? Not me the paying audience for Endgame. Budgets are $200 Million because the cast is eating half of it straight off the top. It is just absurd.
i'm convinced it's just plain money laundering based primarily off the fact that quality does not correlate in any way to bloated budgets.
@@appleish5043👀 is that really a thing?
Imagine what they would accomplish if they allocated some of their massive budget into the writers' room. It baffles me that they spend so much money on these spectacles to skimp out on the part of them that will give them lasting power.
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Modern Star Wars hurts my fucking head in the way the VFX looks amazing and like Star Wars should look, but its at the service of fucking nothing because there is no story or actual characters. Most movies and shows are like this now.
So true. There a plenty iconic movies that didn't have much budget or special effects but the script is immaculate, so they're still watchable after 10 years
Whaaaaaat fintech dudebros no can creative? I am shooketh, I tell you!
Man, the development story of the Crow remake could become a great Netflix documentary :D
It might be a better movie than the actual movie.
@@thematman92 Tropic Thunder moment if that happens
I didn't even know it existed. 🤷🏻♂️
@@thematman92easily
Kristen Stewart cast as The Crow...could've been cool?
Idk why but it kinda fits in my head.
I had no idea most these movies even came out
Megalopolis is the most surprising one for me. I studied the original at school and am a huge Adam Driver fan yet didn't know there was a remake til now
@@byejuyo I think you getting confused with Metropolis... Megalopolis has nothing to do with it.
@@VideoClubRandom I thought it was a remake? What is it about then?
@@byejuyo According to Wikipedia: "Set in an alternate, 21st-century New York City (restyled "New Rome"), the film follows visionary architect Cesar Catilina (Driver) as he clashes with the corrupt Mayor Franklyn Cicero (Esposito), who opposes Catilina's plans to revitalize New Rome by building the futuristic utopia "Megalopolis". The film heavily references Roman history, particularly the Catilinarian conspiracy of 63 BC and the transition from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire."
Oh boy that's not an easy question to answer...@@byejuyo
Lesson: If everything is a blockbuster, then none will be.
It used to be you didn't know something was going to be a blockbuster, it was something that just happened in the lightning strike sense. Now they burn $300 Million forcing them into existence, and fail as a result because its false.
During the making of Star Wars basically everyone thought it was a joke. Alec Guiness probably had a daily freak out like Alexander in Galaxy Quest about how he was a real actor once in his trailer. And in any other time that may have been true but for whatever reason the summer of 1977 was the time and place to catapult this silly space movie into a behemoth that changed Hollywood itself. A true Blockbuster.
So true. Inflatiin is a thinh
Man Syndrome was the most real villain and we just didn't know it as kids
@@NathanDrakeTheGreatIt’s kind of crazy how this is one of the most quoted/ relevant lines to come from a movie during our generation. But it’s so accurate haha
@@NathanDrakeTheGreatNathan Drake likes the Incredibles. That checks out. 😂
What made 80s blockbusters so good is that they were simply making creative movies.
They weren't banking on a huge boxoffice. When you bank on the bank, you make boring movies that are safe.
NO ONE would make Robocop today. Predator? Jaws? Not a chance.
Blockbusters just happened. Nowadays, they're intentionally trying to create blockbusters, and it doesn't work like that.
Most "blockbusters" these days are reiterated franchises and sequels without end. There's nothing new or original anymore.
I agree about RoboCop but Jaws was a huge novel when it came out. That book dominated the culture for months. Not surprised they made a movie out of it.
If I recall correctly, Jaws was the movie that actually INVENTED the idea of the summer blockbuster. It was such an unprecedented success that it kicked into motion a whole new era of moviemaking
Honestly my favourite thing about Argylle was that Dua Lipa was in every trailer and on the poster, despite being in the movie for less time than it took for me to write this comment.
Really? That is awesome! 😂
for real? her scenes were my favorite parts of the trailers lol
Makes sense since Dua is a freakin goddess
Kind of like Zombie Boy in 47 Ronin
And that is why I'm so disappointed in a movie I didn't care for in the first place.
Something I find hilarious is WB’s attitude to Joker. They didn’t think the original would be a success to they passed off a lot of production costs onto other studios, which meant that WB barely saw any of the original’s massive profits. They produced the sequel in house, meaning they’d earn any profit from it, and it’s shaping up to be one of the biggest bombs of the year.
Good. WB should be bankrupt and gone if that is how they do business lol. It really is amazing the unending examples of studios being totally dumbass. They'd buy a successful restaurant, change the Award Winning Burgers to actual dog shit, and wonder why no one comes anymore while calling gaslighting you that your stance of being anti-eating-dogshit is bad.
Hahaha that rules. Next to Sony I hate them the most. Actually after what they did to HBO I may hate them even more.
Sweet karma😂
@@Eamonshort1 at least Sony green lit spiderverse, WB's new CEO is just god awful
Oh the irony
I used to go to the cinema a lot, but ticket prices have gone up a lot and inflation has hit my budget hard. I simply can't afford to go often anymore. So I've HAD to become much more selective, and I know it's not just me.
same here use to go weekly to the movies 😢
@@elisabethb.131 I used to go at least once a month. However ticket prices have skyrocketed post pandemic and now I only go like 5 times a year at best.
Yeah. I used to go to the cinema easily once or twice a month. And I'm not some artistic hipster who only watches arthouse indie movies or something. I'm a rather vanilla milquetoast time who just wants to watch a good, fun movie.
Pretty sure I can count the movies I watched in theatres the last two years on one hand. My cinemagoing rate has easily quartered, if not more.
Going to the cinema used to be as accessible as going out for ice cream, even in underdeveloped countries like mine. Before they had children, my parents used to go to the cinema EVERY DAY after work. Nowadays, that is unthinkable.
I worked on some blockbusters as a visual effects artist these past couple of years, and to me it's really clear why they cost so much: because directors don't want to commit to anything BEFORE production starts. They're so used to having control over everything that they would rather have artists work on multiples versions of the same shot to be able to pick and chose their favorite, which costs a lot more. The fun with early "blockbuster" movies such as LOTR was that they had to adapt to constraints, build around them, get creative with the budget. This isn’t the case anymore - if a director thinks they want a water bottle somewhere in the shot, they won't commit to having it on set and they'll have us put it in afterward. That's a lot of time and money put into things that could have been decided in the moment.
As a result we end up doing A LOT of overtime, which, again, costs them even more money.
I don't see this issue being resolved until directors embrace the joy of problem-solving on set. Cutting corners in a smart way is a beautiful part of creation.
AKA the curse of “oh we’ll just fix it in Post”
@@Watch.Write.Ramble as someone who's been both the person who says this and the one who has to Fix It In Post, I can 100% say it is NOT WORTH IT JUST DO IT NOW
I'd also like to point out that a crucial part of the reason hand-drawn animation is generally not used for movies anymore in the West (despite financially thriving in other markets, i.e. Japan) is because executives and other leaders generally can't just ask a traditional animator to "edit" their work the same way that animators and artists who predominantly work with CGI can. The budget for animation has always ballooned whenever anyone had to ask animators to completely redo their work because the story wasn't fully worked out in the storyboarding phase.
If you look back, it's easy to see the warning signs. When Disney brought in executives from outside the company during the 80s they were frustrated that they couldn't easily tell the crew working on their animated movies to adjust shots or make major cuts and changes. Of course, those executives were all used to working on live-action projects instead. It's interesting to consider how that sort of behaviour has led us to the point we're at now, now that it feels like every movie is expected to be fiddled with until just before it goes into theatres (or even after in the case of a production disaster like Cats 2019)
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I work in 2D animation, not the film industry, but even we see this problem arise during production (though to a way lesser degree, I imagine)
Every time there's a big yearly project, it starts off with one script/animatic and ends up having so many (often unnecessary) tweaks and fixes along the way, that we have to work progressively longer hours to catch up with production schedules, and the studio has to start temporarily increasing pay to keep people wanting to work more and for longer hours
Every time I hear the same complaints from colleagues about "Why tf are we fixing this when all the deadlines are on fire? Couldn't they thought of this earlier so that we don't have to spend so much time on this now???"
Anyway, yeah, I can very easily imagine just how much longer it may take and more it may cost to do different versions/edits/fixes in film production
@@nitescenI suspect they are more comfortable with "Fix it in post" because the inconvience and stress of it has been outsourced to the VFX-artist
Small thing, but Sydney Sweeney didn’t do Madame Web so she could do Immaculate. She did it so Sony would green-light Anyone But You (which ended up being wildly profitable). Immaculate was released by Neon and is totally unrelated to her movies with Sony.
It’s actually cool she’s already produced a movie
nah, she said it was so that she could do Anyone But You and Immaculate. Not so that Immaculate would get greenlit, but so she could take a lower paying job like immaculate because she took the higher paying job of madam web.
@@dylanmeda1596why would she take a higher paying job just to do a low paying job? So Immaculate was a passion project? That's the only thing I can think of right now. It's still early for me so I could be missing sum'n.
Anyone But You is one I've not seen yet but it's on my watchlist (I think). One of the writers wrote a "review" about it on Letterboxd and they're kinda gettin' roasted in the comments section. I feel bad for her.
@@rahbeeuh it is, actually, she has said so. Of all three movies mentioned (Anyone but you, Immaculate and Madame Web), Immaculate is the best one and even yet, it has its flaws: it's not perfect but it's interesting enough. The other two are mediocre at best, but "Anyone but you" at least has in its favor that the lead couple (Sweeney and Glen Powell) had chemistry and that makes the movie more interesting than it should be because the story is really predictable.
The biggest thing I've noticed this year is that advertising for movies don't work like it used to. I never naturally see a trailer or an advertisement for a movie AT ALL these last few years. I could not tell you the last time I saw an advertisement/trailer for a movie that I didn't search for myself on youtube. So where are these millions of dollars in advertising actually going? It just feels like studios are wasting money on advertising because it doesn't actually reach people anymore.
Godzilla Minus One had a budget of less than $15 million and looked visually stunning. Makes you wonder where the budget for all these $200 million movies went
They don't give the artists enough time to perfect some of the stuff coz how tf do you have a 200 million budget and your movie looks like shit?
Actor salaries. Because every big name celebrity wants millions of dollars for doing nothing
It's a money laundering scheme
It was written and directed by actually competent and passionate professionals (not shareholders like Hollywood movies) to be fair and that helps a lot lol
Money laundering, it's money laundering
It just sounds like no one in hollywood has any business sense anymore, these budgets are utterly insane, how on earth can you expect to make your money back
possibly money laundering
Yep - alternate reality for these fools
It’s a genuine delusion that they can make the next MCU!!
Big swing, big gains.
They don't want some of the money, they need ALL of the money.
@username.exenotfound2943 its not confirmed
A lot of people have been pointing out that the insane budgets are the biggest problem facing these movies and while I do agree, I also feel like there’s another working in tandem with it. While this year has slowly brought more people to movie theaters to see a lot of recent hits, the problem of these movies being released on digital services, especially streaming, is as strong as ever. A lot of people have justifiable reasons for not wanting to go to the theater (how much tickets cost, potential troublesome behavior from the community, etc.) but their incentive is being validated when certain films get thrown onto streaming around a month after they release in theaters (sometimes not even that) and it’s really damaging them in the long run.
I still can't get over the fact that they excluded from the movie that ICONIC line "he was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders just before she died". That line was like 90% of the reason why I watched the movie.
Leaning into the meme saved Snakes On A Plane, what a massive L from Ma'am Web
@ckellyedits this!
😂😂😂😂
What was the other 10%?
I don't understand what's funny about that line. Care to explain? I didn't see memes about that
I’m genuinely surprised that studios saw the success of films like The Blair Witch and Paranormal Activity and hadn’t tried to make films with the least budget possible (without looking cheap).
Hell, it’s basically A24’s bread and butter.
Thats how old sequel franchise movies were made, em not being stupidly expensive. I mean the brandon phaser mummy movies were good but 3,
but you can only turn out that much sequels and money if you budget economicm, aka lots ogf schlocky looking that you give a charm, haha
Or Godzilla Minus One (10 million dollar budget)
those films did create an entire sub genre of found footage films that allowed access to filmmaking for people that wouldn’t have been able to have the money to make a horror film, but I get what you’re saying. It’s evident that a great storyline and film can be made with a low budget, and studios don’t seem to care. I do notice studios sometimes churning out horror films (blumhouse specifically) and just knowing that they can spend less than 10 million and hopefully make somewhat of a profit.
It's because of greed, I see a movie with a 1 million dollar budget make 80 million and say "wow, that movie made 80 times its budget" a movie exec sees "eh, it made 79 mil". They'd much rather see a 300 million dollar movie make 850 million, even if it's almost the same profit, with a much less rate of return, big numbers means big business for their company
Mad Max is also a low-buck stunner by a guy who's day job was a Paramedic. They had to steal street signs and crashed one of the producers cars for a shot. I think it was Blair Witch that finally overtook it on the production to take ratio.
When my dad and I went to see 'Dune 2' earlier this year, he remarked afterwards that every single trailer before the film started was for a sequel, remake, or something in a preexisting franchise. It's depressing.
Same with the proliferation of "tribute bands" in the live music industry. Unfortunately I blame it on a public focused on nostalgia, on looking backward rather than forward.
Dune is a remake, and adaptation.
How much money do these execs think we have?? Even if every studio released banger after banger, they refuse to acknowledge that tickets are expensive, people go to work, kids are in school, and even streaming services can't save these bad decisions. I think i only saw 3 movies in theaters this year and only one was a 2024 movie.
this!
Exactly this. They all think they're gonna be THE ONE we'll spend our money on but these days tickets are so expensive that I'm simply not going unless I know the movie has incredible writing and cinematography. I could care less about certain actors like it's gonna be on streaming anyway. The only reason I'd watch that on the big screen is... Well how it looks and feels to watch.
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I disagree with a statement in the video where it says that blockbusters come out any time of year. Most of time, January, August, and September have no films that qualify as "blockbusters."
I haven't seen a movie in theatres since before covid, and I used to go at least twice a year. Partly money, partly lack of interest in what's being released, partly streaming, partly shifting priorities. I feel like there's been a big change in audience behaviour that studios aren't really accounting for
The list of “flopbusters” made me laugh because they’re like all movies that me and my husband put on when we know we’re probably going to fall asleep halfway through… maybe I’m the the reason these exist 😂
They’re background movies for people to watch and laugh at with their friends/partner
so I saw most of these movies in theater because there's nothing else to do in a small town for dates ..
and let me tell you, its smart thinking... I slept through almost all of them. I think the only movies I stayed awake for this year were barbie and ... was blue beetle this year? that was it. lol
I think most people put them on as background noise
You're part of the problem. It was you!😂
Meanwhile Kraven the Hunter opens to $11million domestic
No movie eshould ever costs more than 200 millions
These budgets are absurd
I feel like the main costs are the actor pay. Getting an A-list theatre drawing actor it’s going to be in the millions.
Well that depends. How many people are you employing? Are you going to pay them what they deserve or less(or more)? What kind of movie do you want to make(genre influence many things like effects, how many different scenes or cuts you make, etc...)? Like, there are reasons to why a movie costs a lot, and inflation is important to consider cause the people working on the movies also live in our world and are subject to it.
@ very true! In my mind I’m thinking about the actors and how many people needed to make a movie have life and I was thinking their portion of the pay, travel and food etc would make a significant chunk of that the movie cost as well. Especially mad max with the world building needing so many actors to feel fleshed out.. I find it interesting that’s never really put into the numbers like marketing is or if that’s hard to put a number on that.
I wanted to find an exception and checked Dune 2… 190 milion 😂.
You seem to got that right!
How about a movie with 4500 people on staff that takes about a year to be filmed? It would come up at about $19 usd per hour per person which is the minimum wage in Hollywood and they wouldn't be able to meet it with less than 250 million dollars. Wow. Sad to hear you support paying people less than minimum wage. Shame on you.
Watching that The Crow actors/crew sequence felt like I was Mr. Incredible
Oh my god I get how he must have felt now
Crazy that the entire Sonic movie trilogy has a combined budget of $300M, while just one MCU movie can hit that same number nowadays.
That being said, I’d like to take the time to plug a fun 1:47 little indie movie called Your Monster, which was made with a $300k budget.
At least the 3rd Sonic Movie is doing gang busters and kicking Mufasa’s ass
@@SONICX1027I'd check on that now. Sonic is leading by only 15 million domestically but trailing 140 million worldwide.
One important thing to notice is that in many countries people are getting poorer (even while employed in the same job as before) and that definitely makes going to the movie theater not possible for many. My family and I used to go every week, then over the years (ince slightly before the pandemic) we started going less and less until recently we basically stopped. And is not that there weren't any movies we were interested in.
What is the experience now for most. Go to a run down theater because its run by a 22 year old manager and a gaggle of dipshit teenagers, overpay for stale popcorn and a jumbo box of candy that is 1/4 full, which is also poor quality and tastes like shit. And then the pleasure of the crowd of social media addicted miscreants that ruin actually watching it. For this: $200 for a family of 4. Im just glad my taste in movies tends to only bring other nerds that actually want to STFU and watch too, Dune/Dune2 was sweet in IMAX.
I'm mexican and our main cinema chain is so affordable and fantastic. Like for the price I pay for a ticket here in Germany (I moved) I can get 2 tickets, two big sodas, big popcorn and 2 crepes in Mexico, I lived in Tijuana so it was common to see Americans in the English screenings. I used to go every week, sometimes twice or 3 times and now here in Germany we have to choose carefully what we want to watch cus it's too expensive to risk watching an awful movie, I felt like I got robbed when we watched Quantmmania
What I find ridiculously funny is that they gave us streaming platforms especifically so we dont have to go to the movies anymore and then acted surprised when people followed their advice, what? They were expecting people to keep going to the cinema after being convinced to stay at home? Its just crazy
Movie tickets are also getting more expensive. I wanted to go see Wicked last week. The tickets in the local (small town) cinema were 14 pounds! They used to be about 10/11 pounds just a few months ago. I love movies but I'm not gonna pay 14 pounds every time I want to see a movie (especially if it's something I only have a casual interest in seeing).
But how maby streaming services do you subscribed to? I have 3, tried 2 other ones. Going to try a few other ones during the holidays... Cinema ceased being worth it unless a Dune equivalent comes out...
"The Crow" remake should NEVER have been made. The death of Brandon Lee has cemented that movie as a cult classic that CANNOT be displaced.
This was the literal definition of throwing money away. The fact that it was a terrible movie didn't help either.
There definitely is room for other Crows but Eric/Eric Draven should be retired. Eric isn’t the only Crow, even in the comics. I would’ve loved to have seen Bill Skaarsgard as one of the other Crow iterations. There was one named Null Narcos who is a performer in an extreme circus. That sounds just like his cup of tea.
Spoiler: The fact that they made Eric and Shelly drug addicts was downright offensive, if you’ve seen The Crow ‘94 then you understand why.
I just don’t understand what it is they were trying to do with this one. Missed opportunities and money down the drain.
It’s almost like Brandon Lee cursed the franchise after passing as a final fuck u for killing him. Or deserved karma idk
See, on one hand yes, but on the other, when the troubled history of the project was being recounted, a genius idea entered my brain. Big tiddy goth GF Crow. Low-ish budget, don't try to hard being smart, just, you know, John Wick it up with undead female protagonist and goth aesthetics. Would it it make a lot of money? Unlikely. But I would probably enjoy it.
@@SomeThingOrMaybeAnotherI actually think that might be kinda cool (sans big TT. That’s just not necessary. 😂). She’d be like Fairuza Balk’s Nancy Downs. Like The Craft meets John Wick. Add Trent Reznor for the score and it could be really fun.
If anything I’d want something completely different. Change the setting, the characters, the motives. There’s more than one crow I’m pretty sure
Just saw the interview where Aaron Taylor Johnson said 28 years later made him love acting again, and the trailer looks great so.... tentatively hopeful that's the one shining light next year 😭
I am being so for real when I say this: I genuinely didn't know the Borderlands movie even HAPPENED until I saw a big poster for it while I was at the theater for a different movie.
That's because they knew it was a flop so they barely marketed it to save on the marketing budget
Me too. I was supposed to meet someone near my work and didn't have enough time to go home and back so I just walked into the cinema to see what was on and that's when I found out about it.
It was terrible
I'm gonna be equally real: I found out about the existence of the Borderlands movie because I saw a download link at a torrents site just last month.
@@KittyMeow1984 😂💀 sitting where it belongs
Idk where the marketing budget for these films goes but it is being mishandled. The Barbie Movie's marketing was definitely a huge part of its success, and the total budget for that movie is LESS than like half of all these films. Try harder guys
Barbie probably made significant money from its products cross-promotion, too. Get paid to advertise the movie - a win-win strategy.
Barbie wasn't really that advertised, it just got insanely lucky to be part of the Barbenheimer meme. I doubt it would have gotten a billion dollars otherwise.
@@Marcelelias11you hung out on the wrong side of the internet while the barbie marketing was ongoing, cause they marketed it HARD
@@Marcelelias11no offense but this is painfully untrue. Barbie had an original soundtrack with many popular female artists used to advertise the trailers that blew up online, huge budget posters that sold out, and partnerships like Chevron and Air BnB. Barbenheimmer had absolutely no affect on Barbie's popularity. It certainly helped Oppenheimer though
@@Marcelelias11you were not the target demographic with any of the actors, singers, or generation group of people because there were ads everywhere for that movie. The Barbenhiemer meme definitely upped it a good amount, and helped out Oppenheimer tremendously
You're a really good storyteller. I enjoy your recaps of Hollywood history.
I remember this twitter post I saw that said 'for the love of God PLEASE bring back mid-budget movies' and showed screenshots of Legally Blonde and Sister Act. And something about seeing those films described as mid-budget really surprised me. Those films were HUGE, they both made great amounts at the box office, became cult classics, and even got sequels that I'm sure weren't good, but that's beside the point
Some of the most popular, well-liked films of time periods are always the cheaper ones. Rush Hour had a 35 million dollar budget and made over 3 times that amount, and is iconic to this day
There's no room for these films anymore. And I think that's said. The only example of this I can think of is Lisa Frankenstein, and that sadly wasn't the hit it should have been
also, bring back movies lasting 1h30 MAX.
@@Meanne77 I have to disagree because I love long movies lol. But I think that people would like long movies more if they were better made. Most long length films are only long because the directors don't know how to cut a scene
@@Meanne77 i don't care how long a movie is but damn it i haven't seen any recent films that justify their 2+ hour runtime
Being a bit pedantic here, but I wouldn’t call them cult classics. The Crow was a cult classic. Legal Blonde and Sister Act were just solid mainstream comedies. They don’t make pure comedies anymore. It’s gotta be a hybrid - action comedy, fantasy/adventure comedy, etc.
@@adeleaslan8182I love long movies too, but today it's just absurd, everything is nearly three hours long. I work at a movie theater, and when I saw the length of Wicked on a spreadsheet when it came out I almost busted out laughing in front of my coworkers, only to find out later, that it's not even a full movie, it ends with a "to be continued"!! Absolutely wild
Red one cost more than dune part 2?!?!??! Thats insane!!!!!!!
Yes it is 😮
They paid actors too much
And even worse - it only costed that much more because of Rock's ego
Dune had relatively simple sets and in general much less CGI. A lot of what we see are based on miniature models. Wide-pan shots including VFX are relatively short. They also built a bunch of sets, and used practical effects whenever possible.
In contrast is Red One who had a bunch of CGI characters. That alone eats up a big part of the budget. Plus the movie relied on the use of CGI vs practical effects.
Yeah but Red One is a way better movie
I KNEW that that Christmas movie gave me a flopbuster vibe LMAO
Wild that the current standard is that budgets are getting bigger but the writing not necessarily better.
The budgets are getting bigger and yet the cgi looks worse, the sets look worse, no practical effects, horrible choreography, shit costumes... like where tf is that money going?!?!?
So many of these shows are written by nobodies instead of seasoned writers despite the untold millions they have at their disposal. It's such a bizarre place to cost cut considering it's the literal foundation of your entire movie. Either that or they're all written by talentless nepo-babies.
@@blubug768 marketing?
@@blubug768the pockets of the execs, studio CEOs, etc. that would be guess based on pretty much everything else in America atp
@@blubug768 to the cgi actually. Execs will demand a movie be appealing to as broad an audience as possible, which is super boring in reality, then make a bunch of changes while filming and that will force the cgi artists to overwork to fix the movie.
In the end you get boring schlop that costs way too much money and isn't even heartfelt enough for us to connect with it like any good story should.
When bro said “Megalopolis”, I was like “did they remake Metropolis? That revolutionary silent German film from the 20s?”
well, they technically did, there is a 7/10 anime remake/adaptation from 2001
What I found funny was that it was my first time ever hearing about it
I thought I was the only one :,)
@@deadpan2866God the ending of that one is so much more unnerving
@@deadpan2866that got a rerelease this year
52:08 I keep forgetting Red One is a theatrical release, and being surprised it hasn't shown up on Netflix yet, then being surprised it's in theatres. I've gone through this cycle like twice this week.
😂😂 me too. I honestly thought Red One was a direct sequel to Red Notice that was also from Netflix that cost lot of money. It's funny to think Red One is not even a netflix release that certainly look like a netflix movie lol.
It’s already on Prime for free
I honestly forgot it was a theater movie and thought it got released to Prime
But no it’s still in my theater
It’s on Prime, and Amazon has been featuring it in its holiday commercials. If they intended it to be the tentpole of their holiday streaming, then why bother spending all the money on top line effects and The Rock?
The entire Season 2 of Arcane cost 250M$ as well. The budget of Red One could've paid for an entire season of peak fiction.
I wish league would get a Seaon 3ish story line in anaime before many characters were added
Stranger Things is the most expensive TV show at 30 million dollars per episode. They generally have about 8 episodes per season. It costs less to make a season of Stranger Things that lasts about 10 to 12 hours with the longer episode runtime. Each episode of Stranger Things looks higher quality than this 2 hour long Christmas movie made for 10 million dollars more and a year long production delay that was not spent on polishing the CGI
"The entire Season 2 of Arcane cost 250M$ as well" I find that so surprising.. I only watched the first episode but I noticed such a drastic drop in quality in terms of the animation(HEAVY use of mocap, very little flair) and cinematography(no dynamism in the camera moves, zero artistry in the framing and shot composition) that i assumed the budget had been hacked to pieces and the top tier talent wasn't rehired. It really felt like they brought in a budget studio that could coast on all the previously created assets.
@@francb1634yeah because you watched literally one episode 😭 I'm not gonna deny that the animation didn't drop a bit but holy shit you're just loud and wrong 💀 like I said, you watched on episode, if you bothered to watch more you can see the animation evolves, they literally had to crunch to get this shit out and were overworked to shit, what did you expect. There's barely a noticeable drop off so it's crazy you said this at all 😭 do you not know how animation works
@@francb1634You sure you were watching Arcane? Cuz there was no mocap in season 2. There's keyframe animation in both seasons, but a lot of animated movies use it so that's not a big deal. The animation quality remains consistent in both seasons. Furthermore, Fortiche did the animation for both seasons. Idk what you saw in S1 that wasn't in S2, but as far as I can tell, the show's animation and cinematography is stellar from beginning to end.
I did a grad school project on Warner Bros Discovery’s financials this year, so this video was pretty wild 😂 I don’t understand how these people have jobs
OMG that is a great project choice! They've been on fire for so long I don't think they even notice anymore...
Can you share it with us?
I would love to see that
@FilmsyPickles Failing upward
The crow was my favorite film from middle school to the end of highschool.
This films announcement, the remake, was something i got over the moment i saw it
I feel like when I go to the movies I always see commercials for amazing upcoming movies and then every time I actually want to go to the movies there’s never any good movies out.
God yes. Especially when my local theatre is stuffed with whatever franchise film is in for 7/10 theatres and then it’ll have a single screen for like, a foreign film… maybe??? And I saw a lot more movies this year bc I was going on dates. We saw some trailers we liked but the films? Were flash in the pan and not even in the theatre we saw advertised? It was so whack.
My problem is that the only time I ever have money for movies is after Christmas. But January and February are infamously terrible months for movies and they only ever have shit
@@jibekmechler139 really?? I feel like currently there are so many good looking movies coming out this month
I didn’t even know Fly Me to the Moon was a rom-com. I thought Hollywood was just going insane & making a movie claiming the moon landing was fake. I’m dying that this was a comedy & I had no idea despite watching the trailer! I thought it was low key a documentary.
I never heard of it until this video!
It’s a song so I assumed it was a romance but I knew nothing else about it
I had never heard of it until I saw it on the in-flight entertainment list. Then mid-way through, I also thought "holy cow, are they going to say the moon landing was faked?! As a real thing????" And then it was, blessedly, not about that (tongue-in-cheek).
Why would you think it was a documentary? LOL you clearly didn't pay attention. It was clear from the trailer it wasn't serious.
Dude the trailer showed it was a romance between Channing and Scarlett. Did you not notice it?
I've got a feeling that The Crow remake's production history would make for a more interesting and emotionally charged film than the actual final product.
I had to pause the video and reflect when you said that Red One, a Christmas comedy, costed more money than Dune 2, one of the most impressive SF movie of the last few decades. Why do we even pay The Rock so much money? Aren't most of his recent movies flops?
the big question is why people thought that idea was gonna make money. I watched the trailer on TV and I was like "that sounds like a dumb and stupid movie".
@@laquenopintaI’m convinced it’s money laundering
*cost "costed" isn't a word. I'm not being a jerk; English is my second language and I'm just passing on mistakes I've made so another person doesn't make them as well
Also I always feel like the Rock just like.... Plays as himself? Like it doesn't feel like acting.
Also that budget was disastrous. What do you mean that Red One and ARCANE had the same budget???
Didn't the Rock eat the budget?
I’m at number two right now, but I can’t wrap my head around the fact that The Rock got paid $50 million. And this is the same guy that killed the Shazam franchise! What are they smoking in Hollywood!?
I don’t know i blame the people who cast Dwayne Johnson more than i blame Dwayne Johnson. Maybe im not getting something here but the people who cast him knew what they were getting so i don’t see how thats Dwaynes fault. It’s perfectly within Dwaynes rights to be a bad actor.
@@queenofcookie3299 Will note, being a bad actor is not the same thing as being a bad actor. He's in his rights to play the same character over and over again, but like, outright demanding so much money that retroactively sabotages the project's financial chances… Amongst other things. Yeah no, he's a _bad actor,_ and not just as a literal actor.
I don’t think he’s a bad actor but $50 million for anyone let alone someone who’s not that great at acting is wild!
@@slsthewriter1299 i mean fair enough i mostly just have a general problem with people saying an actor and their ability is the problem when its actually the person who cast them that screwed up. I do see how Dwayne is a bit more complicated there but in a way i still cant help but think that they could have said no and gotten a diffrent actor. However and i do mean big however its always hard to know what went on behind the scenes with stuff like this and who had dirt or power over whom and if the person making choices really ever had the option to decline. I do think his crime is minimal for this specific movie since it was never intended to be a good movie in the first place.
@@jamescarr1265 yeah it definetly is but they (at least from what i know) didnt have to agree to the offer. They could have said no and chosen a diffrent actor for the role especially knowing it would completely ruin them financially to accept it but again its hard to know what goes on behind closed hollywood doors. I do think its important to remember for this instance that the movie was never meant to be good. The movie was planned and made with mediocrity in mind so i cant really say Dwayne asking for that much money ruined anything since it never would have been a good movie in the first place.
Yes, I love this era! The same is happening in the gaming industry. Big companies are finally realizing that they can't bullshit us with sparkly but crappy blockbusters anymore. They're finally realizing that they need to actually put in some effort into their products. I'm very excited to see the death of blockbusters and AAA games, which, hopefully, will lead the way to lower budget, but better thought out movies and games.
I can't speak for everyone, but there's a lot of stuff that came out this year I WANTED to see, but going to the cinema has become an unaffordable luxury and something that is very easy to cut out of my budget. Been twice this whole year...
Yes this. I used to go to the cinema multiple times a month when I was a teen. I haven't been at all since 2019, simply because there has not been a single Hollywood movie I have been willing to spend that amount of money on. I haven't watched anything from Hollywood at all this year, I haven't missed it, other countries are making far better shows now.
In the UK we get 2 for 1 tickets typically totalling to $10. Throw in a bag of some store bought snacks makes it an affordable regular thing to do with my other half!
@@ilovefishcurry I am also in the UK and largely, no we don't unless youre very lucky to have a cheap Indie cinema on your doorstep, are under 18 or go can on a weekday before 6pm.
For most people who are stuck with just one of the major chains, you're looking at £12-16 per ticket ($15-$20 US)
@@ParanoiDave yes we do, if you’re either with O2 or Vodafone they give you 2 tickets for £8 every week at VUE or Odeon. So use a friend they’ll usually help you out with vouchers. You can also get 2 IMAX tickets for £18.
Same, but part of that is because it costs literally $100 just to have someone watch my kid so I can pay $47 to see a movie with my husband (2 tickets to Wicked this weekend literally cost $47 with taxes 1:12:06 like what)
'The Inevitable Failure of 2025 Blockbusters'
'The Inevitable Failure of 2026 Blockbusters'
'The Inevitable Failure of 2027 Blockbusters'
'The Inevitable Failure of 2028 Blockbusters'
'The Inevitable Failure of the Human Race'
The failure of the human race might have been in 2024 🤔
War. War never changes.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
50 million to be in a movie I never heard of to an actor that does everything but ACT? I am in the wrong business.
@@TheKhalienteThink i might start taking acting classes
furiosa was so good, and it's failure still hurts.
They should've did a sequel to the 2015 Mad Max film instead.
Its like the execs simply dont understand the value of lower budgets anymore, a movie cant be a 20-25 million $ project with an auteur director with a vision and if it bombs, it doesnt make headlines and destroy careers. But NO, every movie now HAS to have an inflated 150-300 million $ budget project with a star studded cast and immense studio oversight because studios apparently expect every single movie to break box office records every single time and then have the gall to act shocked when they are all flops.
All the movies they keep making the 10th shitty sequel or prequel too started life as tight-budget bone crunchers like Terminator, Predator, etc. Not made to be the start of a cinematic universe, just a bunch of guys on coke decided to make a monster movie, or a weird movie with space wizards and some farm boy lol. Limitations bred creativity which breeds iconic moments and characters. Give some hungry directors $50 Million and let them run. Even if it only makes $10 Million its still profit instead of a $200 Million smoking hole in your ledger on a bad bet.
Modern Hollywood is a pig trough filled with recycled food.
The key to underestanding the love for the Venom movies is understanding one key element of them. They are rom-coms before they are any kind of superhero movies. Hell, the last movie even had it in the title. The last dance. And if you have to ask who the couple is...
Tom Hardy and his wacky voice
Talk about narcissistic tendencies...his poor wife.
I think too the fact that they listened to the audience. They saw that's what people liked about the first movie and leaned into it, so even if the movies themselves aren't great they have a very devoted audience who will always show up.
I understand them, but they’re still absolute shit
They are fun and Tom Hardy is fun in them. Sometimes that's all you need
Always enjoy these long videos were we get immaculate details on a movie that we end up feeling like we've watched the thingg😅 ourselves
Ok Snow White and the Huntsman is memorable to me because it had some of the best costumes I've ever seen, designed by Colleen Atwood. The movie wasn't great but every outfit she designed for Charlize Theron was a masterpiece!
yes!! all i remember of this movie is the visuals/costumes
@@woodlandhsarchivesand how beautiful Charlize was 😅
@@Groganee yess!
Me too
How funny that’s exactly what I thought when he said that too! Such absolutely beautiful costumes for Charlize, she was so stunning in that movie
wait, argyle came out THIS YEAR? i could have sworn that was at least 2 years ago
Ikr?!?! I could've sweared I watched it in the movie theater last September or October
Same, this year feels like two years
Wait that can't be true. I just googled it and I still refuse to believe it.
Mandela effect 🤣
It could also be a mental merging of Argyle and the Gentleman which came out 4 years ago. Both movies are similar.
1. Yeah I hated the Venom & Costello movies too.
2. Why they insist on making "Spider-Man" movie minus Spider-Man is a mystery to me.
3. Megalopolis will probably join Spielberg's Fabelmans and Scorsese's Irishman and Killers of the Flower Moon with double digit Oscar noms and zero wins.
4. When people complain about studio interference, the flip side to that is Megalopolis. A film where no one was there to say 'no' Coppola.
A lot of people prefer venom over spider man, myself included. Venom is goofy in his new iteration and it’s fun af. Brock is a sweetheart who isn’t being cucked by q dude named Paul.
It’s about time us venom-heads eat good
To be fair Megalopolis was purely a vanity project on Coppola's part, and he probably was happy the movie got made; he probably didn't care whether or not it made money. There's nobody to say no to the director when he funded the entire thing himself. I'm sure he was hoping it got better reviews than it did though.
It it wrong, that I see $170M and I think "Oh they didn't go nuts on the budget"
yes
One of many problems why movies are flopping is that people are not as financially stable as they used to be. So even if one WANTED to go and watch a movie they were interested in, it would be hard justify it financially. And a lot of you may be saying, "how hard is it to dish out $14 for a movie ticket?"
It's very hard for people living pay cheque to pay cheque and for people barely making ends meat.
£14 for ticket then that again for the popcorn.
Meanwhile I could get three four packs of beer just for a ticket.
@@georgethompson913 I forgot about the food. It's pretty ridiculous that you are either dishing out more for overpriced snacks or just sit unable to enjoy a movie the way you want.
Apply for Affirm and you can get the tickets for $1 and pay $1 a month for 18 months.
This is a good point but also my thinking has always been “eh, movie looks like shit…guess ill pirate it later.” I swore to never pay for a movie after The Whale lol. But yeah, my bf who is a movie guy often says he would like to go to the theater but cant justify the cost of tickets.
Historically, does movie revenue go down when the economy does?
The Crow essentially became the modern-day "Macbeth" play
It's very odd to me that when these small budget high quality movies do insanely well that the lesson learnt is not "take smaller financial risks on smaller movies" but is instead "sink a fuck ton of money into an unnecessary sequel that no one wants and the writers dont have a solid concept for"
Actually, the oldest director in activity is Clint Eastwood. The man is 94 years-old and just released Juror #2. Can't wait to see it when is streaming in my country!
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Lmao I just commented this too
Wtf he's still alive?? I could've sworn he died like a decade ago lmao
Juror #2 is a snore terrible movie
Domestic for Kraven was 11 million domestically, 26 mil worldwide opening weekend lmao
the first joker was also popular because it was released in an environment of such utter garbage that people were desperate for anything remotely resembling fair filmmaking
As an international viewer, in the context of the Venom movie, I would like to mention the dubbing of the film. I did not watch it in any language, but if a Hollywood movie has a mediocre or generic writing/script with good or even okay visuals, then the dubbing team can turn the film into something really amazing. Given they know the market and target audience in their country. So considering this, the fact ‘Venom: The Last Dance’ was saved by international audiences is more than reasonable. Again, I did not watch it, but I do know the camerawork and CGI were done well.
Though with that I also want to add that if a film has great writing in English, it is really difficult for it to succeed after translation. A good example for this would be Deadpool and Wolverine. Watching it with the original audio with translated subtitles was really weird. The two dialogues had completely different vibes, giving them completely different characteristics and personalities. My sister and I watched it with the original audio, my parents watched it with dubbing. They aren’t really into superhero movies, they are part of a different generation in terms of cinematic experiences and expectations, but my dad legit slept in while watching it, and my mom had a lot of complaints about it.
This got a bit long, but yeah. TLDR, dubbing is important when talking about a movie’s international success or failure.
Good point!
The chemistry between the two leads is the best part of the movie and I imagine it didn’t come through as well in the dubbed version
@@jamescarr1265 Not at all. And let’s not mention the references not making sense. Either because of the translation of this movie, or because of the translation of the referenced one. There were other things added with the same kind of humor, but that doesn’t come across as well because of the change in their personality (which is either a voice acting or a writing issue).
Yeah that's why so many unpopular tv shows and movies are popular in Brasil for example, we have great dubbing here and it's often that they save bad projects
Lately I've been paying more attention to dubbing aspects of a film and how much it can actually improve or decrease the quality of said media. And yeah, when a dubbing team know what they're doing any movie gets better by default. Sometimes the dubbing actors are even better than those on the actual movie, which is insanely amazing to me
If only Americans will stop treating Hollywood actors as gods and pay them millions, then maybe these movies' budgets won't be so expensive
"I don't want the singing anymore." They knew that the musical aspect would be almost universally despised, so they preemptively wrote it into the script.
I don't know anything about the movie, but I know for a fact it was all Gaga style music and it was probably mostly ballads. I can't stand Gaga's need to sing ballads. Her voice works for pop (maybe pop rock), not anything with a slowish tempo. Perfect Illusion works a lot better to me than Million Reasons (I can not stand this song, it's so bad to me).
If the movie wasn't a musical and more inline with the previous movie it probably would've at least broke even on that budget.
Also they gave it to NO ONE who worked in musicals! 😂 go figure
@@jczbas Wait what? Ho-, Wh-, Bu-, HUH?
I wouldn't say it's a normal musical tho, the musical aspect is just a part of their shared delusions of grandure and fantasies, I thought it worked for the most part. But I did think there were too many songs honestly.
I didn't hate the ending, sure it wasn't satisfying, but his life was brutal and tragic. It was very realistic. Which is why I loved the first one as well.
I heard there's still people that actually like musicals, but I can't imagine there's a huge overlap between them and people that would want to see a Joker sequel. But they managed to take two things that don't go well together and make a movie both groups hated, so there's that...
Is it surprising that twisters actually did really well at the box office. Especially going up against Deadpool and wolverine.
Agreed. Saw both in theaters (for work) and the quality differential was crazy. Which is wild coming from me because I usually don’t like superhero stuff but wow …. Twisters…. Didn’t need to be made 😂
I think people liked the idea of a "fresh" new movie. Like, I know it is a remake, but it is noticeably NOT a superhero movie. That's why I liked it at least lol
Nowadays with people knowing a lot about actors, casting likeable ones really helped Twisters succeed in its marketing. Same goes for the Fallout show this year.
As someone who saw dead pool twice both times the only other choice was twister so the other movies out no one cares for def helps this! Lol it literally was those 2 movies or random stuff
I genuinely thought Argylle was a musical coming to my city, the billboards were so bad at telling people what it was and I'd seen no other marketing for it
Doing a remake of The Crow nowadays (like many attempts of remaking 80s and 90s movies) was a foretold failure... because not only the original movie and the protagonist's performance are awesome and became cult especially with the tragedy of Lee's death, but also it seems that Hollywood is currently stucked in a cinematographic era of zero risks (writing, directing...), meaning bland/dull/coming from the same mold/PC movies, which is totally incompatible with, and cannot compete with the original ones from 80s and 90s. Also, in The Crow remake, the few changes regarding the story and the storytelling really worsened the result.
21:57 the way I JUMPED 😭
I'm in my uni's library and the person next to me just looked at me with a very concerned look on their face 😂
The jump scare was not necessary 😂😂
Right I thought I was trippin 😂
Pretty sad looking back at 2024 and I could only be bothered to watch a total of 9 movies. Wild. I used to put down 40-50 per year.
The fact that transformers one, one of the few big budget movies I enjoyed this year (the other ones being DP&W, Beetlejuice2, and Inside out 2), was glanced over bc of its awful marketing angers me to no end
Of course THAT had to be the one to be cursed with the worst marketing. At least wild robot had great marketing
Independent filmmakers stay winning
Agreed, One was so good. A good movie by itself and a great addition to the series.
wtf is dp&w?
@ Deadpool and Wolverine, my personal favorite movie of the year (at least rn bc I haven’t seen dune 2 yet)
Transformers one was fine lol…. Like ten years ago that would have been a decent animated movie nothing spectacular. I repeat I enjoyed it, there is no part of my body that regretted not seeing it in theatres lol. It wasn’t that good voices were kinda weird in my opinion . I guess I’m just confused as to what people consider great movies or very good at least. I can understand why people might like it a lot though. Wolverine and Deadpool just isn’t for me as I have never been a fan of film Deadpool in the slightest . Sucks because Wolverine is my favorite marvel character but again I can kinda see the appeal . Wild robot is on my list excited for that one since I know nothing about it.
Unfortunately the same is NOT happening with triple A games. Gamers are willing to dish out for an immoral, buggy mess of a game for $70 simply because they decided to invest in nothing else in their lives and need to occupy their time in the only way they know how. It's sad.
Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn was something i was really excited for. Love or hate her music, she just fits that character in theory - at least in my opinion. The moment they said it would be a musical however... it really made me nervous. Then the trailer dropped, and all hope went out the window, and then the synopsis was released by then - doomed.
I'm in the same boat you are. Lady Gaga is the perfect choice for a more "realistic" or "gritty" Harley compared to the equally excellent Margot as a more comic book Harley...but the movie clearly wasn't continuing that realistic bent. I haven't even seen it.
I loved the Joker movie as a standalone, but I hated it as any sort of "origin story" for the actual Joker. It's a fantastic look at how people slip through the cracks of the system. It honestly felt more like a movie about mental health that got reworked to have the Joker name for marketing. It's not the right vehicle to do a Nolan-esque origin for Joker, imo.
Take the musical aspect out and it was a half decent movie, not good but doable
It seemed to me that they hired her to sing and couldn’t care less for her acting. Which was a huge detriment because she showed a lot of improvement there compared the her previous acting projects.
I forgot Madame Web was a 2024 movie. It seems like an eternity ago now.
I started, a couple of months ago, to start watching movies I've never seen, since there are a ton of classics that I've never seen. I'm still going through it and there are still some big movies I hadn't seen, but going through this experience really opened my eyes to how much modern blockbusters suck. It really feels like even the movies I watched in the last couple of months that I just thought were "meh" were better than anything I've seen a major studio like Disney or WB put out in years...
Kinda sad
I think this isn't really a fair comparison. This seems like the same argument that old heads in music make to say modern music sucks. The older movies you're watching seem to only be classics that stood the test of time to be remembered and not the major flips like Cleopatra or the movies so bad they don't get rereleased. With any media, overtime the middling offers and most boring gets forgotten.
I watched Mr. Smith Goes To Washington last month and didn't think I would like it; I ended up being late to work because of how compelling the story was and I couldn't stop watching it, Jimmy Stewart was truly one of the best actors ever
The mummy and Mr & Mrs smith are like this… watching younger I liked them, now I LOVE them.
@@catduck2112he was fantastic
I would have never watched There’s Something About Mary if I cared about Hollywood.
Apparently one reason why Red One cost so much is because Dwayne Johnson was constantly late to film so everyone had to film around him. Also he really wanted the movie to be in IMAX.
Why didn’t they just fire the guy. He’s likable but not in a ‘people won’t watch the movie if they learned he was fired’ kind of way. He’s an Ok actor at his best. There’s 20 different actors that could have easily stepped into the role. John Cena is #1 that comes to mind. He probably would have done it for cheaper and had better reputation.
@athousandandonenights11 Dwayne Johnson was a producer on Red One.
I have a coworker who tells me Red One is so good and is telling me to go see it. She keeps telling me how it's logical for Santa to be fit because he goes down every chimney...
Reviewing its biggest flops is a weirdly nice way to wrap up the year
All of these flops either have a major flaw that turned off audiences or they were just movies that people didn't ask for and didn't want.
Hollywood needs to get back to making crowd pleasers if they want to keep this industry alive for the next decade.
Tbh, I think they need to make a mix of more crowd pleasers and generally low/lower budget risk taking movies.
Furiosa: mad max been over for years and since it's not a "Sequel" to the originals nobody cared
Joker 2: the entire point of the original ending was that it was a 1 thing movie and have the watcher decide in there head what the ending ment, it dosent need to exist..... so nobody cared
Transformers 1: transformers been dead for years and nobody cares anymore as seen with ROTB
crowd pleasers will just get you a bunch of nostalgia bait crap
@Accountthatexists Transformers One is legitimately amazing tho.
@@Jones183 it's the explanation of why it flopped, I'm not even close to saying it's bad
Furiosa was fairly alright too and still flopped
As one of the three people who had no idea who Francis Ford Coppola was before she watched your video (and who has also never seen The Godfather), I’m quite proud of Gramps for chasing the dream for decades and finally seeing the results of his work. Not every piece of art has to resonate with a broader audience. Sometimes, the audience is just one person - you - and you can certainly buy yourself some flowers 💐
But he also allowed himself to grope actresses on set so 🤢
The problem is that there were rumors of bad behavior during filming.
In 2019, I could not escape The Joker. The memes were everywhere, the compliments and raves about the movie were all over my social media feeds, my friends even forced me to watch it in 2022😂 the fact that everyone is trying to gaslight eachother into pretending The Joker phenomenon never happened is unbelievable to me
I don’t think about Silicon Valley very often, but one scene I think about all the time is when Richard is waffling over accepting a huge amount of investment capital because he’s worried that with all that money shoved into his project, it’s way less likely that they’d break even let alone make a profit. He meets up with an old friend who had that very thing happen to him and asks, “What would happen if I took less money?” And the friend looks like he got slapped in the face, asking, “Oh my god, why didn’t I ask for less money?!” Anyway that’s how I feel about Hollywood, except I don’t think anyone will ask for less money, because I truly believe these bloated blockbusters are just money laundries.
Gotta love how many of the movies after the first 5 I have never even heard of. Amazing work team.
I think one of the biggest issues Hollywood has right now is budgets are way too bloated. Decrease these budgets by half or more and we'll see way more "hits" at the box office. Also, spending more money does not make a movie better. Godzilla Minus One was one of the best, if not the best, movie to come out last year and it had a budget of 10 million. It made 11x that at the box office, making it a hit. Of Hollywood had made it with the types of budgets it gives movies, it would have been considered a flop.
AAA videogames are having the same issue... budgets are through the roof, visuals are high while actual quality is often mediocre at best. There's been several high-profile flops this year in particular.
@Rietto
Exhibit A: Concord. The budget, including marketing (even making a short episode about it on Secret Level that came out this month) and buying out the studio that made it, was $400 MILLION!!!! And all for something that barely lasted 2 weeks.
The fact that The Crow reboot mishaps are so old that you can pull footage from AMC movie Talk into when they were taken over by Collider, really shows you how long that project went through developmental hell.
"Do you guys remember Bright?"
Yes but only because Lindsay Ellis made a video about it.
This year I came to respect M. Night Shyamalan a little more. Not because I thought Trap was all that great (or most of his other films from the last twenty years), but because he seems to realize there's not much of a career in making expensive bombs. He briefly tried his hand at making big-budget movies (The Last Airbender, After Earth), which did not work out, so he simply went back to making modestly budgeted films that still are interesting enough to gain some attention. They always make their money back and sometimes even hit it (relatively) big. Maybe more people in Hollywood should strive for that instead of trying the James Cameron method (investing hundreds of millions, expecting to make billions), because so far that method has only worked for James Cameron...
1:08:21 Todd Phillips received $20 million.
Joaquin Phoenix received $20 million.
Lady Gaga received $12 million.
That’s over 90% of the budget that original movie had all together, why did they think this would do the same numbers as last time with that high of a budget 😭
Phillips and Phoenix probably didn't want to do the sequel so only a massive amount of money would persuade them.
@@DorkDork87phoenix was super passionate about the sequel, to the film’s detriment
I think it's worth noting that Agatha All Along is Marvel's cheapest show *and* one their most successful.
Well it kind of helps it's so cheap, that if people watch it at all it's already a success.
I first misheard Megalopolis as Metropolis when it was announced and it sounded normal that someone made a remake of Metropolis (1927) since this year we were also getting a remake of Nosferatu (1922).
Lots of people make that same mistake for some reason. I'll admit when I first heard of the movie, I did too.
I always find it crazy that one of the main shots of borderlands where they open that door at 57:20, there’s a crew member helping the actors open the door. WILD
Damn 💀💀💀
i feel like all the movies from this year and last year sucked so bad because of the writers strike. Movies and television shows don’t feel the same anymore.
That crow rant ... the eyes your momma made for you... was perfection.
The two biggest crimes of joker 2:
Making Harley (a famous abuse victim) the villain and the reason the joker became who he is.
Using that tired old “he’s a murdered because he has dissociative identity he cant help it!” bs. That shit has haunted people with DID for decades now. People tell their loved ones they have a complex trauma disorder and get split throw at them and half jokingly asked if they are a murderer. This is not okay and the film industry needs to stop pushing this god damn narrative or people with DID will have to continue to hide their diagnosis from people in fear of mockery and violence.
He didn’t have DID… he admitted he doesn’t. He has a persona that comes out when people brought up his trauma and I think thats a legit thing that happens. Why couldn’t Harley be reimagined as a realistic take? I mean if you want the Joker film but to make it unrealistic like what happens in the comics then you could watch any other film. Harley being an obsessed stalker that seeks out someone else’s trauma because she was bored and unappreciative of what she has and wants to identify with victimhood is very on brand for todays society. I feel like the audience got called out and didn’t like it. What killed the film for me was how it ended. Not because I don’t feel like it was a good ending but because the transiton to the actual Joker wasn’t well explained and I had to read about it. It should have built to it. I feel like he didn’t reach the top of the fame. He sort of did and when people realised he wasn’t going to be the joker and was going to take accountability, they left him, because they didn’t actually care about why or what or how, they wanted chaos. Which represents Gotham. Harley is reimagined. Perhaps theres someone else who is actually Harley Quin.
@username_creates6991 harley quins story of grooming and abuse is perfectly realistic, it doesnt matter if the movie says "but oh no he doesnt actually have it" they are still contributing to the problem by chosing to bring up this disorder in the manner they did. Also no it is not a legit thing that happens outside of a few set disorders like DID. From what i remember he admited to there being no persona and that it was all him even if he would like to pretend it wasnt not sure if thats quite what happened its been a while. Even if they are talking about a specific symptom of ptsd that would still be problematic as it is simply not a movie that is equipped to handle those kinds of sensitive topics with the nuance and care they deserve.
It’s pretty clear Fleck doesn’t have DID. That was kind of the point of the movie. Joker was a facade, and he wasn’t this persona he created. People only cared about him as the Joker, not the pathetic man behind the makeup.
Oh great youtube delted my reply. In short i am aware he doesnt have DID but bringing it up in that context as even a possible explanation for what he did is enough to continue the stigma because it simpley isnt a possibile explanation. DID would not cause any of the violent behaviour shown by the joker and presenting DID as if it could (even if they then say no that wasnt it after all) is enough to continue to the stigma of people with DID being mindless killers. They still fundamentally misrepresented DID
This isn't the first time Harley has been the abuser in the relationship, as that was one of the main plots of Tell Tales Batman season 2
Nothing ages faster than special FX
They didn't tell a story worth telling. Smaller scale, non blockbusters are the way to go
And make movies that people actually want to see.
@@BaithNa At this point every single announcement of a blatant Millennial nostalgia bait fest pisses me off.
Thank goodness Deadpool 3 is the only successful superhero movie of the year esp because there is no other superhero movie this year worth seeing.
At this point, theatre culture can only be saved if movies are no longer put on streaming services, forcing people to attend theaters physically.
I wonder if that would work. Movie theaters are pretty pricey, and folks are very accustomed to streaming stuff. Folks could just give up on movies period if that happens.
With how much it costs to go to cinema right now, I think more likely a LOT of people would learn how to watch movies illegaly lol
no theaters here, they won't have my money no matter what
I would just never see another movie again lol.
Why. Why waste travel time and money for crap movies?
The reason you have they have to make double is BECAUSE of the unreported marketing budget.
I honestly didnt even know Argylle was a movie. Like... I saw teaser that was just different characters saying 'Argylle' and I just assumed it was an ad for a new perfume or something??!!!
It’s wild that the marketing budgets often double these insane multi million dollar movie budgets …
The audacity of these studios to pay The Rock 50 million dollars just to see him play himself again like every movie he stars for the last couple years
Hey, it's the part he was born to play.