Small Quick Ordinary Look at The Umbrella Academy
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2019
- In this analysis we'll examine The Umbrella Academy. This analysis is normal and not obsessed at all.
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Luther: 5:50
Diego: 13:30
Allison: 23:30
Klaus: 29:47
Five & Others: 37:57
Ben: 43:21
Vanya: 46:22 - Розваги
I return with such a small teeny tiny video. The good news is I've reorganized my life to have more time to make UA-cam videos. Thanks for all the patience and sweet words, this video was universally blocked for awhile, but I won the disputes. ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Quinn Curio welcome back
Quinn Curio what are your thoughts on the MCU
Great video, first time watching the channel and I think you have some pretty good insights but I wanted to mention that I think you missed that Chacha has feelings for Hazel, thoughts?
I wasn't sure if that's what they were going for or if I was just assuming Chacha liked him romantically because she's a woman and there is an element of jealousy involved. So I decided to not comment on it.
Just like in general? I like it, and I like crying when the characters die. I'm not even sure how I would approach talking about the MCU on my channel, I wanna do Harry Potter stuff first.
Reporter: Would you say you're an independent person?
Luther: *looks at Reginald*
Reginald: *nods*
Luther: Yes.
Me at the doctor's office
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Reporter: "Would you say you're an independent person?"
Luther: Daddy, am I an independent person?
Reginald: Yes, you conformist twit.
Luther: Yes.
@skeleton They did lol
They added Reginald insulting Luther and explicitly calling him conformist, making it even more sad and ironic
Shit you need to leave Luther alone goddammit
Holy shit, do you know what I never considered? Klaus was still very much seeing the dead while serving in Vietnam. Could you imagine what he saw? The compounded trauma of war while trying to ignore the lost, agonized spirits of its victims? Did he sober up for the man he fell in love for? Did he in those ten months tell him he saw the dead, did he make real progress only to watch him get senselessly killed and totally relapse? I wish the show had touched on that.
Hopefully it still might
i'm pretty sure season 2 is in the past around the 60's era like kennedy's assination. Since vietnam was the same era, i am hoping they'll touch more on the relationships or just what Klaus did in the 10 months in vietnam. Hope he meets Dave but young Dave and they start dating :)
@@peepeetrain8755 welp....they did Klaus dirty huh
@@gwinnellheald8592 i mean it is understandable and how he approached dave was off like your a famous cult leader approaching a guy who clearly does not know his gender/sexuality yet and convince him you were lovers in the future in front of his clearly "straight" uncle.
@@gwinnellheald8592 LMAOJWJSJWKSJDKSN
“A teenage boy playing an old man playing a teenage boy” and he nailed it
Yes he did
💯🥰
Yes, yes he did.
*Nr. 5* is my favorite Character.
@@jackwriter1908 No. 5
@@fenexus404 other Country, other Name.
Diego's power is being able to control objects that are moving through the air, not just inhuman accuracy. In season two, he stops bullets, and moved them.
@SamTheSoviet42 In the comics at least, it is unconfirmed in the show.
Pretty sure this vid came out before season two
So he can control velocity?
"the most stable relationship in this family was five and an appartment store dummy!" -Klaus, S2
Department store*
@Aurora Nightingale Yep thnx fr using the right quote
It was actually the most stable relationship in this family was when five was banging that mannequin
I mean it's not false. He and Delores had decades together.
i thought it was "the most stable relationship in this family was when five was screwing that manikin"
This old dude thought he was a pokemon trainer, collecting magic to children to battle with.
I love this comment so much, lol.
😂
That explains why he ignored Vanya, he can only keep 6 in his party
I saved you all I changed the likes to 667
Their typings, what should they be though?
She actually says “I heard a rumour you love me.” to Patrick, yes. That’s how was it in the comics, even though Allison still thinks that what they had was real.
So her husband didnt love her and divorced her due to abuse. Thats why she cant see her daughter. She used her powers on her kid.
But how did he eventually stop loving her though? How did he break the curse?
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 maybe the influence of rumors don't last forever
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 I think that Patrick does still love her, but that his love for her is overshadowed by his need to protect his daughter.
Even when getting divorced, people can and do still love each other.
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662
Her rumors probably don’t last forever. When Lila made her not be able to breath she didn’t die, it lasted probably not even a minute before she was good again
The whole scene where Vanya slits Allison's throat, it never really scares me with the gore. It's the whole reaction and acting that gets me. The way she screams and everyone panics makes it very disturbing. The acting in this show is so good 😅
Elliot Page is so incredibly talented. I’m super excited for season 3.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior ikr?! he’s so amazing
I remember watching that seen and hearing Vanya panic, and I just started crying. It was so impactful.
@@aliadrift yeah right! I felt so sorry for Vanya. She never meant to hurt anyone but she got out of control. And still it's not her fault. She's just the kindest, nicest, most sensitive and loving character. She wouldn't even hurt Luther who did so many bad things to her.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior so true omfg i love him sm he’s such a good actor
The scene where Vanya slashes Allison’s throat reminds me of when you’re a kid and your sibling says something to you or takes your toy, your ability to communicate your anger goes out the window so you push them. To me, that feels purposefully telling of Vanya’s isolated upbringing
Arwen Carbery Once when I was in elementary school a girl was being mean to me and it just got to be too much, so I kicked her, but immediately after I was crying and apologizing because I realized how bad it was that I did that. Felt just like that scene, but with less blood, obviously
@@sydneyhall8610 less blood?
@@elinoadelazerda2428 um yeah?
One time my sister and I were fighting over my toy bunny. I don't remember why exactly but I REALLY wanted her (the bunny) back and pulled as hard as I could while my sister did not let go and in the end, it tore an ear off. I ended up crying and running to mom to fix it.
I think it's like that too. Your emotions get the better of you and you become so desperate you just physically react to what you want/ need at that time. And either someone or something gets hurt in the process.
What I'm saying is I also totally get what you're talking about, and Allison needed to back off when Vanya got too overly stimulated/ angry
My gf hated the character but I was like wouldnt you do that if that same person was integral In you feeling small and assisting your father in making you feel so
If I had Allison’s powers, I know I’d be a sociopath, it’s just way too much power that’s so easy to abuse
Honestly same, like someone would have the ruin my vocal cords because I'd make reality my bitch
Ugh I wish I had her powers.
I just go around telling everyone "I heard a rumor your not sexist/racist/homophobic"
Biborka Batki well at least one of us is a good person
@@beetlebub4460 awww thanks
Ive always felt uneasy with Allison x Luther bc they were literally raised as siblings by the same dad and mom
Literally why don't more people find it weird? The show kind of makes it seem like it's a normal relationship to have.
To me it always felt like we were supposed to find it weird. It's a trauma thing. Growing up they didn't have access to the outside world or anyone outside the "family" and so they only had each other when they started getting those feelings. So naturally they came to focus them on each other. But it was said in S2 that they never even kissed. Idk, I just always got the feeling it was written that way for a reason, because they didn't have the experience and knowledge to know any different when they were younger, and when they were adults Allison had clearly come to kind of realise it was messed up because she'd lived in the real world (to a degree, can you really call it the real world when she used her power to get basically everything?) but Luther still felt that attachment to her because he'd still been isolated having never left home until he was sent to the moon. I think it was actually pretty well done...
@@Dazzlefae Oh! That's actually a really interesting way of looking at it, i've never thought of that!
@@Dazzlefae yes I mean weird as it is the point of it I think is to understand the isolation I think the family felt. Growing up we know they never were really allowed actually connect with anyone outside of the academy, hence the many ways most of the characters are stunted emotionally with relationships both known in friendships and romantically. In the case of Allison and Luther I don’t think it was just a sense of romance but the idea of connection, being seen and heard. The understand they had with each other having powers and that connection of trauma from training/missions/their father- yes it showed itself in puppy love. Yet to me it feels just as how Viktor sees Leonard as a point of validation, Allison and Luther were that for each other. It wasn’t until Allison was able to break out and work on building other connections she stopped needing it from Luther.
I always found it weird because in the later seasons they try to act more like siblings and bond like siblings
“His power functions more like a mental illness”. That describes klaus very well, and his arc. I was looking for essentially those words for- like forever- but that just completely nails it.
well the "talking to dead people" part, the immortality part just feeds his mental illness because he can behave as he likes with few consequences
@@larrystrange8044 At the time of this being posted, the power wasn't revealed yet
Klaus' power is essentially schizophrenia if the hallucinations were real. It's absolutely terrifying and he can't conciously control it, at least not in the beginning, of course he's doing his best to block it out.
Fun theory: they’re actually numbered backwards based on how powerful they are. Luthers power is pretty weak, rendering him number one. Just another lie Hargreeves told them
Ohhh that actually makes a lot of sense.
I'm not calling you a liar, but is there a source for that, because it feels like something someone who hates Luther made up.
@@issacalleyne8665 out of the seven of them Luther is technically the least powerful.
You Don't Need To Know Who I Am
No, I’d say Diego is.
@@j2dragon109 I'd say Diego could've been more powerful.
I wanted to see more of Five and Vanya together because it seemed as though they were very close as children, with Vanya leaving sandwiches for him even after he disappeared and him shouting out her name as one of the first when he found the ruined house
I want to see those two together too!!! I also noticed how close they seemed throughout the show. There was also the scene where he stayed at her house
I second this! I wish that they had shown Five and Vanya interacting more, but they don't really share scenes outside of the first two episodes. This may have been because having Five around may have thwarted Leonard's plans, and his goal was to isolate Vanya further from her family, while manipulating her all the while. Plus, Five was already preoccupied with stopping the apocalypse.
I'd love for them to have more scenes in season 2
i thought i was the only one 😞👊
Also when five goes to jump through time in those scenes it often cuts to Vanya looking down and almost saying something then letting it go and looking down. That alone adds so much.
It’s ironic how Diego hated Reginald and wanted to rebel almost as much as Klaus did but he turned out exactly how Reginald intended
As do most of us who work so hard not to be our parents 😅
It's the mark of the balance between past and future: "Yes, but not your way" is the eternal cry of the adolescent
Keep in mind: Klaus was high as all Hell when he first saw Luther in Ep 1. For the sake of the audience and the continuity of the show's timeline, let's just say that the drugs manipulated his reaction.
That’s what I was thinking
Yeah I think it's in character for him. I assumed he was either high as balls and it didn't fully hit him how weird it was, OR he assumed Luther was on steroids.
I was born exactly on October 1st, 1989 and I don't know how to feel about this. Where the hell is my super power at?
😂
Guess you gotta beat the heck out of Allison to see if you ever had a power before 💁♂️ Good luck
Try stop taking your pills (but like actually don't do that)
Was your mum pregnant with you that morning? If so then I'm afraid Reginald has no use for you
I'm afraid there's just nothing special about you. You can join forces with Harold.
I think it's quite interesting when Allison takes away Vanya's powers when they're kids and when they're adults Vanya takes away Allison's powers
I too follow our dear leader Jim Pickens
Is anyone gunna realize this person is onto something here??
@@alias201 I as well follow Jim Pickens: Our Dear Leader
Is it not her life, or health that Vanya takes away instead? Even so, it was accidental in Vanya's case.
@@allisoncarter7421 seeing as Allison’s powers relies on her voice and she is unable to talk for a year her powers are
taken away and Allison wasn’t at fault when she originally took Vanyas powers away since she was like 4
I actually think Vietnam might be the reason Klaus doesn't realize there's actual gunshots in the theater. He has pretty big PTSD coupled with actually being sober enough to manifest Ben, so there's a huge chance he thinks the gunshots are just part of the PTSD or some sort of ghost manifestation, which is why until Luther tells him to get down he realizes "oh shit, this is actual gunfire"
Why the guys in the theater didn't shoot him instantly, yeah that is plot armor straight up
Or maybe he is just so used to gunfire as backround noise after 10 months in Vietnam it doesnt even register or somthing?
@@Lasanga95 true as well!
maybe diego didn’t like the book because it revived his own trauma
and seemed to revive his hero complex as well
Harder to be a vigilante if everyone knows the facts of your life. But I know guys like Diego, they LOVE to be a mystery. They don’t want you to know why they behave the way they do. Being mysterious is easier than overcoming your trauma.
I've never watched Umbrella Academy, but my little sister did, and when I asked her what she was watching, she described it as "Daddy Issues: The TV Series".
If you haven't then please do it's amazing
Sums the show up amazingly well.
@@fan2fics389 no...
Yes, but this time those daddy issues are pretty legitimate. XD
@@gabrieltiq412 What?
I’m pretty sure Diego’s power isn’t just throwing knives with really good accuracy
He can control anything he throws he just really likes knives
He can also breathe underwater, which is why his hero name is The Kraken, but I know they director cut that out of the live action because they wanted to ground it more in reality
KombatKat 117 That’s suspiciously sounds like me...
Director: **Cuts the breathing underwater part of his character **
Diego: *_Hold my Knife-_*
He can control things after he throws them too. He throws a knife at Luther when he thinks Luther is some rando breaking into his room in the boxing place. Before it hits Luther, he curves it away into the wall next to him.
I might have just misread or am misremembering the scene
@@FMAxEdwin I think it may be possible he still can breathe underwater, but it's just situational and not really necessary for his arc so it isn't ever brought up. Especially since Diego's comic powers are VERY disconnected from each other
I really liked how you adressed that there's no "right way" to respond to abuse. I recently learned that in addition to PTSD there's also post-traumatic growth disorder where some people focus so much on bettering themselves because they don't want to go through another bad thing ever again. Also, your take on Vanya gets so close to something I personally deal with: lack of a growth mindset. I was told I was the smart kid my whole life, built my self-esteem on it, and avoided personal responsibility for a long time. Now I'm washed up and have no drive because that was the root cause of my self-worth and I feel like a failure. I think I can get better but it's hard af
Hey, that’s me! A smart kid being praised for that all her life and having an identity crisis when she gets to a uni where everybody’s smart AND SMARTER. Soo if you ever wanna talk about it, drop me a line maybe? 👀
I had an ex like this. Atleast youre aware.
Oy I feel ya buddy. But we're gonna grow and get better and figure it out! Just slowly maybe 💜
Good luck, you can do it.
Same, I actually paused the video when she talked about the self- esteem thing because it just hit so close to home.
I like the way that Diego re-writes Patch in his mind. It's just more of his broken mind--he takes the fact that she called him and he makes her a complete girlfriend future that he could have had. That relationship is all in his mind, and it's so sad.
I like to think the reason Klaus didn’t immediately react to the gunfire and had to be told by Ben is because he thought he was hearing the guns in his head, because it’s a possibly common occurrence for him to think he’s hearing said gunfire. Or maybe being in the war numbed him to the sound.
Kia Not The Car - I like the “he doesn’t know if it was in his head” idea, though it’d have to be a lot better set up. And war DOES NOT numb people to gunshots. Quite the opposite. Veterans are the most prone to anxiety attacks from a car backfire of any demographic.
@@samwallaceart288 In a way, I agree. But how long had Klaus been back from War at this point? A couple days? And he still never really left the War Zone in a way. He got used to it in Vietnam, but he never got the chance to get used to being out of a War Zone really, so his reaction would make sense really, because in his mind me never left that War Zone.
But it probably was more that he thought it was in his head because of PTSD and all that...
Kia Not The Car like he was numb to it at this point
Too high to freak out, maybe. I don't know if he was sober in that scene.
@@theshamanite He was definitely sober, this is right before the scene where he summons Ben with his full-fledged powers -- he couldn't have been under the influence of drugs if he was be able to do that
What I loved was the special relationship between Vanya and #5.
He goes to her first when he needs a sounding board.
Vanya would leave peanut butter and marshmallow sandwiches out at night in case he came home.
The very first thing he does on returning, is make himself a peanut butter and marshmallow sandwich.
Ditto, I liked the understated relationship between Five and Vanya, despite them not interacting much after the first episode. When Five is fighting with Reginald about time travelling, Vanya is the only one to attempt to dissuade him from trying, subtle shaking her head. She also wrote some nice excerpts about him in her autobiography, and Five compliments her on it following his return.
Lastly, when Vanya breaks out of the vault Luther imprisoned her in and embraces her White Violin persona, she has flashbacks to all the times her siblings mistreated her. Five notably isn't present during this sequence.
@@trinaq
Nice catch on the flashbacks, totally missed that.
Me too. I hope we get more flashback scenes between the two!
@@trinaq I noticed that in the flashbacks too. It's another change from the comics, as in that Five said he never liked Vanya. I'm happy they changed it ':D
I wish we had a little more between them after the beginning though
I like the idea that Five has always been a kind of old man and just decided he was cool with being no 5. Like as a toddler he's like "no thanks Grace. I'll stick with the number."
Elliot plays this role perfectly, he made the show even more fun to watch.
Tbh✨
@@charliedear8802 Elliot
@@charliedear8802 you tried
@@charliedear8802 Elliot*
@@shanikamurray4333Wait who tf is Elliot?
"Oh, if you incest."
Such a horrible joke. I love it, lol.
Deception975 I CAME TO THE COMMENTS FOF THIS LOL
@@britneytheunicorn2832 me to xD
@@alivia9735 and if you know of "friendship is witchcraft" the song in the background fits to a t (except the stalkery posesive obsesive side of the song)
Ditto, I actually laughed harder at that joke than I probably should have!😅
You love what, incest??
"You don't have to accomplish things to justify your existence"
That is a very soothing quote
I feel way too much for Vanyas mental state
Including placing huge import on a certain skill to feel worth it
José Ribamar Jr 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I needed to hear this today.
yeah, now I only wish that I could actually believe it
@@aldoushuxley5953 You don't ever have to justify your existence. You exist and that's the way it should be.
I never even thought that Allison could solve Klaus’ problem with her powers. I suppose that’s why they wrote in a whole DETAILED backstory plot for her about how using her powers has ruined her entire life and so now she refuses to use them. 🙄
pretty much, another possible solution to how OP she is is if the people she's fighting know in advance what her power is. if she has the element of surprise, it's incredibly difficult to defeat her. she's also quite capable in a fight.
I also think the drugs are not Klauss' main problem, not being able to deal with all the dead people talking is.
Not sure if she could rumour that away
@@ApequH Exactly! And because Klaus' power functions like a mental illness, if she completely stripped him of his coping mechanism, he'd probably do some _even more_ insanely self-destructive shit to try and get the voices of the dead to stop terrorizing him, and probably fuck himself up even worse trying.
@@fandomcringebucket also even if she could say rumor it away much like Viktor and the rest of the family or her love rumor, it’s shown that rumors can only work as temporary locks, much like real issues. Klaus having the voices rumored away might solve it but for how long before the vault is open again for Klaus to deal with? Is it expected that Allison would just rumor away the ghosts and voices whenever Klaus had to deal with them again but honestly that sounds even worse + just more trauma for both characters something Allison probably couldn’t handle given the pain rumoring people has done to her mentally as well.
Reginald is a massive idiot in what he made Allison do to Viktor. Instead of making Viktor's emotions and power held back, Reginald could've told Allison to say "I heard a rumor you have perfect control over you emotions and powers". smh. Allison could've said "I heard a rumor you heal from all your trauma and have the best controls over your addiction and power". SMFH.
Okay but the Friendship is Witchcraft “Since We’re Not Related It’ll Be Okay” instrumental playing in the background while talking about Allison and Luther’s relationship is just…👌🏽 peak comedy
IT WAS DRIVING ME CRAZY TRYING TO REMEMBER THE SONG! It was so funny to realize why it was such a good choice…
I kind of like that Patch doesn't explicitly like Diego. I like to think she really doesn't like him and Diego's love is one-sided, and he can't properly tell when someone loves him back due to his childhood.
that's actually a great interpretation wow
That's my headcanon now
It would've been more understandable if it was shown as a friends relationship than a lover relationship.
@@ayshaalmarar1819 I think the fact that it is a "lover relationship" plays on the theme that the people who are supposed to love him don't, but he always has that one-sided love for them. He thinks that she must still love him because of that history, just as he thinks Mom must love him because of her role in his life despite the fact that she isn't human.
@@Leiloke to expand a little more on that, i can't help but think that Diego's struggle in his relationships with other people extends from his inability of letting go of the feelings he experienced with them. you can see it with his mom - despite knowing that she was programmed to act in a certain manner, that she was affectionate with every one of them, he can't help but think that he is special; he can't let go of the feeling that Grace truly loves him, and he can't understand why his siblings don't feel the same way about her.
this is something that is recurrent in his relationship with Patch, too. she doesn't like him, they broke up, he is annoying - but she loved him once, that has to mean something, right? if he can't stop loving her, she shouldn't be able to either. the fact that she died is actually detrimental for his development as a character, you see, he was able to let go of his mother once he truly understood the extent of her programming, but Patch is dead - she is never coming back, and that leaves Diego in place to just remember her; she isn't there to put him in place, she can't act or talk for herself, no one in Diego's social group knows her, so the only thing left of her is the twisted memory he has of the person she was before she grew up - because he never accepted the person she ended up being. he obsesses, he can't let go of his feelings, he doesn't understand why people don't feel the way he does.
Honestly I watched the show with my dad, and when he saw the scene where Alison rumours her kid into sleeping, my dad just turned to me and said "Yeah, I probably would've done that with you to be honest."
Edit: Happy to see this story being appreciated like 2 1/2 years later lmao
this KILLED me
Shredder 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Children are whinny little shits, who wouldn't?
@@ottovonbismarck4497 whoa man what kind of 11 year old were you!
Yeah I didn't see an issue with that
"Diego was caressing the dead body of someone he was nothing but a migraine to" my favorite quote
That scene where Grace sewed into her own hand was one of the most heartbreaking moments for me.
every movie/tv show with time travel: ok but don’t interact with anyone, change time things , blah blah blah,
Five: haha time go brrrrrr
Five: Bit.ch say what?
if timelines function as nodes where events happen or not, it could make sense. I mean, the Comission works this way, making events happen as their prefered timeline
five in second season: haha farts go brr
I mean in this show time-travellers are immune from time changing so things are fine for them
Five : *Time go brrra kakaka skibidi papa and a dun dun dunbrrr skia kukukukuku dun dun*
I loved that you mentioned Vanya's use of makeup. It's something my mom pointed out to me when I was watching another show with her. I said something like "look they didn't blend her foundation" and my mom went "it's because she doesn't seem like the kind of character who knows how to blend foundation."
Interesting
I'm a male and I know more about menstrual cycles tmore than I do about this conversation please teach me Obi-Wan Kenobi you are my only hope
@@leeroberts4850 wait wut -_-
@@mikuappendver1086 wtf is blending foundation
@Sylvie Wėęēñńg well did she put her makeup on right in the umbrella academy?
It just seems to me like Vanya didn't have anyone to teach her how to put on make up. But gay men and drago queens figure it and something tells me they don't learn it from their mothers
Diego isn't just accurate, he has some psychokenisis powers allowing him to control where his knives go.
I think the person Allison hypnotized into loving her was the same person she was talking about when she told Vannya that she knows a thing or two stalkers. It was probably a classic case of you can only bewitch people into obsession not real love. Just a thought 🤔
Like in The Craft! Such a good point. It’s the old, love potion backfire- makes so much sense
Dolores’s body must hurt from carrying the entire show on her back.
underrated comment
@Minami Uchida well her torso is her body so technically your both right.
How she gonna carry it if she have 1 arm and half a body
@@DracoMalfoy-tf9rm plot polka?
exactlyy dalores is the best character and she is really strong and op too lol
"maybe thats what happens when you burn books, it goes to ghosts"
imagine being a ghost and getting to read all of alexandria's library
All this shit is in Greek! Heck!
@@dr.jackbright963 And Egyptian, plus some other languages that aren't as popular today. At least, you'll have eternity to learn them?
Omg u didnt
Who
If we look at history and book burning, it could be claimed that ghosts are the best educaded. Spezialy political.
for 5's name, i like to think that Reginald told grace to name 6 of them, the 6 that "mattered" to him, and Five gave up his name so grace would name Vanya. Therefore, still got 6 names. He doesnt mind being called 5, so why not. It's implied that 5 and Vanya were close, so it makes sense he would sacrifice that for his friend.
Vanya is my favorite character; as someone who struggles with an inferiority complex and chronic depression, I find her extremely relatable, well-written, and perfectly acted. You really get the sense, watching her, that she struggles to find the energy to even smile, that she has no faith in life or herself, and has resigned herself to a state of apathy, rather that fighting a futile battle with the world around her.
At the same time there are hints of happiness, hints that she is trying to make the best of her situation and that she wants to feel better, even if she doesn't know how. She continues to play the violin, she writes a book, she even embraces a romantic relationship, when it would be so much easier just to give up and become a hermit. Depression isn't constant, it isn't just sitting in a dark room crying all the time - there are layers to it, ups and downs both from internal struggles and external influence, and Vanya, to me, perfectly encapsulates what depression looks like, and how it can turn volatile and destructive if left untreated.
Plus, her eyes just looks awesome when she "goes bad".
I mean, they arent related
A romantic relationship which was infested with lies from the very beginning of it
@@tsrenis I was talking about how well written and acted the character was, and how relatable, I (as a person with chronic depression) find her character to be - the events of the plot are not relevant to what I was saying.
@@LadyDoomsinger Ah okay very epic
Other than five, viktor Is my second favourite character because of this.
Growing up as the underdog or the one who always gets left out, I always imagine myself and relive the show as being the character who goes through a similar situation.
That’s why I hate it when people try to say he’s the villain because in my eyes his anger and sadness is completely justified- not to mention hes just unlocked an uncontrollable power that had been rumoured and drugged away for years
y'all couldn't Allison make Reginald a good dad? like couldn't she say "I heard a rumor you are a good father" ?
hi hungry I'm rat Don't you see Rat? In Reginald's mind he IS a good father.
I think they're saving that for season two.
To not give too much away, he would have been able to see through the use of her power.
He is too smart for that and she was probably scared of him.
she probably either didn’t think she could, or she couldn’t. people’s definition of good parenting are different and like @Enuma Elish said, what he was doing could’ve been what he considered good parenting.
This video made me realize that Umbrella Academy gaslighted me into thinking Diego and Patch had an interesting relationship.
oof.
They do. Just if you take a different point of view. I don't think Patch had anything to do with the story they were telling. I think that was about how he see's his "family" and his "father" being translated through his extrafamilial relationships as also being cold, detached, passionless and alone. That's his comfort zone because it's all he knows. So, simply remove every other entity in his "personal story times" with him. It's all he's ever had. Not that he's selfish or a narcissist. There's many different ways of being "self centered". I thought it was all brilliant how they told his story, including Patch... Because think about it.. Really... she didn't matter at all. Just what HE thought about "they".
was Patch the police officer that got shot by cha cha?
Jay Allen yes
i am getting severus snape and lily evans vibes and i want to run far, far away * shudders *
ME TOO
Vanya was basically an innocent girl turned into a monster by her siblings and father. They all alienated her, mistreated her, neglected her and had the galls to blame her for her problems they themselves caused, especially Reginald, Luther and Allison. They all act like she is the freak, when they were the ones who are freaks and no surprise, Vanya turned into a killer. That's why you never abuse children and gaslight them into hating themselves, you get Vanya as a result.
Except for all the poor nannies he murdered as a child for trying to get him to eat breakfast. That was pre Allison rumouring him, so . . .
But they were taught to hate her
I think Ben coaching Klaus is clever because he didn't get to live the life that Klaus is wasting. Klaus can't communicate with the dead while drunk or high either so I think Ben wants Klaus to stop neglecting his power and start embracing it because it can be used like it is in season 2.
I can ignore Klaus forgetting the guns in the theatre bc he’s shown to hallucinate gunfire in PTSD episodes, it would be easy to say he thought it was in his head. Even when Ben said “do you hear gunfire?” he is immediately distracted by Cha-Cha and it makes sense that he would ignore anything else happening to focus on her.
Also this video is amazing.
Ahhh similar to how in the first episode, when Five first arrives, Klaus asks if anyone else sees “little number Five” or if it’s just him, because he thinks he could be seeing Five’s ghost. Poor Klaus, at this point in his life the lines between what’s real, what’s dead, what’s a flashback and what’s just drug hallucination must be ridiculously blurred.
@@cascharles3838 yes, officer, this person right here is making me cry. tell them to stop.
you heard them, stOp iT.
I agree. Klaus' behavior is never surprising to me. Dude lived through a figurative war zone, then was dropped in a literal war zone.
I love that theory
Granny T idkkk though I think a lot of that is klaus being sarcastic
Hazel and Agnes were so pure. I loved that these two acually happened
They were the cutest! I want a spin-off about those two and their life together. It would be the most wholesome thing
263Adder spoilers
All 20 years
I was *convinced* they were going to kill her before they got to be together. I'm glad they subverted that one.
I want to like this comment, but it has 666 likes, and I don't want to ruin it.
Didn’t know there are a lot of people who find this relationship so endearing. To me personally it’s weird cause of the big age difference. But I understand it better now that’s explained here cause they’ve both experienced things, just differently. Still kinda weird tho.
At first, I didn't even think Grace was a bot until they said so. I love her actress so much but I also love Grace as a character.
Oh my god. I'm just realizing by watching this that Klaus came out of the closet figuratively and literally. I love that tiny detail.
we should not forget that in the final scene when they stop vanya, everyone is wearing bowling shoes
Yes, I didn't notice that until the second time I watched the finale. It adds some much needed goofiness to a dramatic confrontation!😆
It was so thoughtful that they did that. It shows they actually are paying attention to what's happening in the show and are aware of tiny details.
Ruby Shepherd I didn’t notice that 😂
My favorite part is that they don't address it at all. A lesser show would have something line:
Five: Tthe sky is literally falling and we're here is goddamned clown shoes!
Klaus: (nonchalantly) ...bowling shoes...
Five: Does it matter!?
Luther: They >are< bowling shoes...
Five: Jesus Christ, Luther.
Allison:
Diego: (audibly cry-laughing during a three-minute flashback to a time Patch walked past him wearing a new pair of shoes while he was being booked)
@@CollinGerberding ugh no this is painfully correct
Ben: is that gunfire?
Klaus: * runs into the theatre *
Theatre: * is full of gunfire *
Klaus: * surprised Pikachu meme *
Amy Aberrant my theory is that he’s kind of oddly numb to gunfire
@@salenebrom6476 probably. Also, can gunfires be ghost?
I think he has PTSD from both gunfire and Chacha and maybe Chacha overweighed here
I think he just has Tinnitus from the Battlefields.(Tho yeah he should have acted differently there)
Crowscythe he might think it’s in his head tho
Reflecting on the ending of season two, spoilers btw -
I find it really sad and messed up that Ben was the only sibling who ended up in the Sparrow Academy. Hargreeves met his children and saw who they became as adults and decided that he would specifically not adopt them in this new timeline. Ben is the only exception, because he didn’t meet Ben. He was so disappointed by who his children became that he didn’t want them to be his children. That’s so fucked up.
So true, and I also think it's strange that he wouldn't include Five? Like he seemed to vibe with Five in S2
What. I had hopes that Reginald wasnt such a prick. Dangit
the problem is that in this case Five likely is still to smart, because despite everything Reggie doesn’t see them as people. As really anything but tools that he can use to get what he needs, and given that the Academy has proven being able to have stopped the apocalypse twice I think Reggie is smart enough to know he can’t manipulate and use Five in the same way (given on the version he meets). Liking Five is understandable, but he knows there is probably more issues than what’s possible.
Also given how the Sparrow issues works I don’t think he’d be able to necessarily adopt Five therefore never able to manipulate him into the perfect tool for him regardless so current Five servers little use so it’s hard to know what would have happened it that paradox timeline never took place. His comment I think was made to hurt and break the original academy as he’s well aware the power Reggie hold over all of them across every timeline, regardless of what the family thinks.
Also the whole Ben stuff makes a lot more sense given the fact that this Reggie & Harlan only was able to spare Ben because he was dead and neither could form that connection, however, Reggie knowing what he does of Ben from passing convos season 2 likely could be what caused the mistreatment and pushing of Sparrow Ben to being the way he was which really is the icing on the cake of knowing Reggie is the worst in every timeline.
to be fair he did kinda(???)meet ben when klaus got possesed by him! what i dont understand is why didnt harland accidentally kill his mom either?
@@user-og9mt1hn6t I’m not sure Klaus having a basically a stroke hearing “I’m Ben” is enough for him to recall Ben, even more as all of the siblings play it off as a joke (only knowing Ben could actually possess Klaus in later eps) & we know that he didn’t actually get a look at what Ben looked like. Much harder to avoid picking one of 16 children when you don’t know what you’re looking to avoid (although not like he could even adopt the others in that timeline).
And I’m pretty sure Harlan never met Ben as Ben died saving Viktor before the main Harlan scenes (with Klaus I don’t remember being an the farm prior to the last events), giving him no reason to sense Ben in the way Harlan established a connection to sense Ben as he could sense the presence of the other mothers.
the accuracy of "i heard a rumour you loved me" after seeing the third season... freaky
Yes
“She has testingcheatsenabled trued her way to the top” that’s the best way I’ve heard anyone describe anything ever
😂😂😂
Such an elite joke, I love it
lol
I also loved the "world's most warranted case of imposter syndrome" comment.
I think the "I heard a rumor that you love me. " line was definitely said to her husband. You still absolutely have the ability to leave someone even if you do love them. Especially if you see them doing something as horrible as he did.
Jerek Headrick I would love if there was a plot twist in season 2 revealing she said it to Luther.
I've heard of an interpretation that Allison rumoured Luther into loving her as kids. Growing up in a house with an abusive parent, they all formed units or friendships: Diego and Grace, Klaus and Ben, Five and Vanya, and Luther and Allison. It's quite possible that Allison, seeing the close bond between her and Luther, mistook a deep admiration for something stronger, and after she cast her powers, forgot that she had ever rumoured Luther in the first place. I'd like to see Season 2 address this concept, and see how they resolve it.
yeah like she said it to him a while ago and but he assumed she would never use her powers in that way. Then when he saw her use it in the same way on their daughter, he realised what she had done and that's why he was so mad.
Love is something you can fall in and out of, I could see her making her husband love her as she is, and then enough time passes, enough things about her change, he makes enough realizations, falls out of love, and would have to do charmed again to be in love with the modern her.
I was under the impression that Allison's power wasn't necessarily permanent. Vanya does eventually remember when she's triggered to. If someone is rumoured into loving her after not being in or falling out love, it's plausible to think that the fake love might wear off like a love potion who's effects only last until it's out of their system, or broken in the same way that all their fighting would remind them why they weren't in love in the first place. Her kid wasn't sleepy forever, just for that night. I don't know if they give it more depth in the books, but it could be something along the lines of the more plausible it is the less likely someone is able to break out of the spell or something to do with the person she manipulates.
Speaking of none of the siblings understanding how to talk to Vanya, I'm reminded of some of the best character development in Season 2. Luther believes he is at least equally responsible, and probably more responsible for the Apocalypse than Vanya, despite the fact that Vanya was literally the one who did it. He gave up on her because he trusted his dad's judgement that Vanya's powers were too dangerous to allow her any freedom. And instead of treating her like a human he treated her like a mission, one where he had to be in charge and make all the calls to prove how special and awesome he is. He completely ignored Allison trying to reach out to Vanya, when if anyone, Allison should have wanted her dead or imprisoned the most. In Season 2 he understands all of this, and seems to actively despise himself for his actions.
"you need the characters to be unsafe enough that you're afraid they'll get hurt, but safe enough so that the show doesn't break your suspension of disbelief,"
cut to season 2 where Klaus (maybe Diego it's fuzzy) uses a stack of hay bales to hide from several dozen assassins with automatic weapons
Klaus: *says anything remotely sad*
Luther: DAD SENT ME TO THE MooOOoooooOon
to be fair, Luther went through just as much abuse... only his was different because he was simultaneously being manipulated by Hargreaves into being the perfect soldier/getting his siblings on board. his desperation to prove his father cared about him was the reason why he so desperately brought up the moon mission - because if it wasn’t, then why had he risked his life, given up a childhood, stayed emotionally stunted, stayed isolated from his siblings, etc. if there was no point?
@@lainareese5777 Seconded, Luther just wanted his father to love him, and paid the price for being Reggie's favourite child. He brings up the moon in a desperate attempt to prove that he wasn't sent up there for nothing, and to be fair, he doesn't bring it up as often as the fandom would have you believe.
Luther is also so cut off from his siblings that he doesn't realize the extent of how damaging their childhoods were. For instance, he tells Klaus that he wishes that he was happier like him, even though everyone else can tell that Klaus was haunted by ghosts, and turned to drugs to cope with it, even though they don't take him seriously for the most part.
This video: *gives a nuance and detailed description of the abuse and manipulation Luther went through and dissects his character enough to see the complexities of his background and personality*
This fandom: lOl daD sEnT Me tO THe mOon
Reginald: I Love you to the Moon and..well, yeah.
@@lainareese5777 In my opinion Klaus went through the most abuse. Luther was more emotional abuse but Dad also became a tiny bit more sympathetic towards him. But still, he uses that for every excuse which gets really annoying. Klaus was mentally tormented causing him to have a drug problem to feel numb and he acts as if he's ok went he's self-destructing so much, which I think is way worse. Besides, even in death their Dad was disrespectful and disappointed in Klaus. It was kind of sad
"Give him a goddamn hug, Jesus Christ, he put down his robot-mommy" has got to be one of the best lines I've ever heard.
Jeff Torres 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I just want to make a small correction, even though I'm sure you've already worked it out from watching season 2: Diego's power isn't inhuman accuracy; he can manipulate projectiles midair. His favorite application is by curving his knives after throwing them, but he can also, say, swerve bullets away from him and his friends. Like a toned down Magneto almost.
Even though it is true that Allison could cancel out Klaus’s addiction, he will continue to hear voices and without the choice to numb his senses he could go insane instead🤔 but eventually he did managed to sober up which means there’s a peaceful way to live with his powers.
I always took Five's name (or lack thereof) as him rejecting a 'normal' name and choosing to stick with just the number. He wasn't a blind follower like Luther but he did show the most dedication towards advancing his powers.
I agree, Grace clearly named them long before Five went missing. I theorized that he rejected a name because his number defined him, and helped him stand out from everyone else, who all went by their "ordinary" names.
I think on twitter they confirmed "Five" os his name, cause he was a mathematical and strategic genius and so his name was just also number, and he embraced it during surviving the apocalypse
thats why i adore five so much! for me, he isnt dedicated to his father but hes smart and aware enough to realize how much potential his power has
Makes him sound even more like a badass assassin ngl
One really subtle detail I love about Grace’s “death” is that she says the words “Diego, remember...” now this leads the audience to think she is going to say “Remember me” as one final act of humanity, but it could also easily be interpreted as her getting ready to repeat the phrase “Diego, remember what we learned. Picture the word in your head”. This ambiguity lets the audience decide if she’s experiencing remorse or sadness, or whether she is just broken and is repeating the same programmed responses.
You mean broken again? Because she was broken on purpose which is the only reason she was acting like she had dementia.
Actually i was just thinking that she was trying to help like in old times.
this hit me in the feels
I saw it a little bit differently. Even after she reminded Diego he still faltered, so she reached out once more to help him even as she was actively dying. It was like her last breath was an effort to care for her son
@@berkleypearl2363 Yepp thats what had me crying when i watched that scene the first time.
Watching this in 2023 and got jump scared by Elliot’s dead name😂
I personally really like Klaus being in Vietnam War and having another layer of trauma he has to sort out. The only thing that bothers me is how little the show touches it and how the sibiliings just pretend it never happened. I know it didn't really happen for them, but it still happened to their brother so they should care about it. I would like to see them do more with it in the future.
I have a little theory/headcannon that their numbers are reversed. It was always weird to me how Ben was six when he could sumon a cthulhu and Diego is 2 when all he can do is throw knives. I also think the numbers are used as a way to raise self esteem on those who need it, and keep it down on those who are more powerfull and could be more of a threat.
Idk, makes more sense to me, since Vanya was n7 and I dont think it would be a coincidence that the one lower on the list is the one who gets ignored.
Spoiler! In the comics it’s revealed that the numbers are reversed so that the most powerful had the largest number and the least powerful had the lowest number
@@user-yv8tt9jv4g Aww poor Luther
@@shoshanahenson3433 hahhhaa oh my, poor Luther indeed!
@@user-yv8tt9jv4g how's luther weaker than Diego tho 💀
@@m.k4252 in the show Diego can control the path of any projectile (bullets rockets etc) and in the comics he can hold his breath for presumably forever, that’s why he’s called the kraken,
“Small, quick video.”
Over 50 minutes long.
I love it though.
X-Men with more daddy issues and crying is pretty much the best explanation for the Umbrella Academy.
lmfao
Ellen page being in X-men
I'm starting to suspect that between "X Men" and "The Umbrella Academy", Ellen Page is really just a girl with powers in real life!😁🎻🔉
I hadnt even realized it was 50 minutes lmao thanks for making me aware
I have to leave in 15min
hey but it's better than the X-MEN movies those things were terrible
48:25 I have ADHD and it's actually really super hard for me to focus on the thing I'm doing without having a video playing in the corner of my screen for both the audio and visual stimulation (double right-click on the video, and press picture in picture, for anyone who doesn't know. I was one of the people who watched the seven hour iCarly video in one sitting lmao), and I really appreciate the work you and other people do to make their videos all nice and pretty, because I'd probably be drooling on the floor not getting anything done without you.
Ima be honest, I went full stupid and got angry when I heard her say “Ellen Page” before realizing “Oh shit- this was a year ago”
wait whats the beef with ellen page about i'm not into celeb drama
@@windsorholman Elliot page came out as trans a while back, so I got mad when I heard his dead name without realizing this video was uploaded way before he came out
@@erroneousfax9351 ohh ok that makes more sense well good for him *awkward thumbs up*
Same bro same.
same here dude
'he's not gonna *hold his breath* indefinetly to wait for his dad to change"
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, KID.
The thing is she forgot about it when she stalked about his powers.
I think she's only talking about the powers confirmed in the show, we don't know if he can still hold his breath for a long time in the shows portrayal.
Widget fair enough
Kyle Dunne she didn’t forget she said they’re not confirmed in the show version
@@fanofstuff1607 has l0909p
The reason why Vanya was so in love with Leonard was because he was the only one that told her that she was special. Even when her family found out the truth of Leonard, she felt personally attacked because her family tried to take away person that gave her validation.
Plus he technically helped her rediscover her powers, with ulterior motives, but still...I see why she was happy being with him up until she found out the truth.
@Ultimate Untalented Which in and of itself was special, cus leopards are pretty vicious.
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 mhm because he actually in a way or what she thought He had given her a lot of attention and showed that he actually cared and that she was human and had emotions unlike her family excluding five cuz they were close. For the first time in her life she actually feels at someone genuinely cares for her and loves her and thinks that she is special with or without powers. Only to find out but he was just using her which made her go over the edge since she was already on the edge.
spoilers!
i always thought he was creepy and when vanya finally found out the truth and killed him i was like "wow, good riddance". what an asshole. vanya deserves so much better
@@drankydrank1 😩🤣🤣
25:10
"Despite the awful things she’s done with her powers, Allison doesn’t come off as a sinister person" OOF. That did NOT age well.
dayum right
words cannot express how much I loathed S-3 Allison
@@Ornithorhynchus. yeah me too
My biggest gripe with the show is the relationship between Luthor and Alison was SUPER creepy to me. They are siblings, but for some reason no one thinks its wrong that they are dating
It's not that creepy considering that's how they coped
They had no friends, just family.
They weren't raised as siblings. They were raised as co-workers. They didn't have a family dynamic
@Juliet RIght, but the thing that makes incest appalling isn't the word "family." It's about power dynamics. It's ESPECIALLY fucked up in this context, because not only were they raised as siblings, and yes, they absolutely grew up as siblings. That's not a thing that an adult chooses to do or not to do. Children growing up bonded by some structure IS family. a unit being a family isn't defined by how wholesome, or healthy their upbringing was. That's sort of the entire thesis of this show. Like what? Everything about this narrative serves to reinforce the validity of their responsibility to one another as family, and the consequences of power, and its abuse. Every single relationship in this show is framed in that context. So to refuse to consistently apply that thesis to this specific relationship, can only ever be approval of the relationship, or a failure to understand the relationship. And a failure to understand the relationship begets the capacity to approve of, or positively frame a deeply insidious dynamic. You CANNOT frame their interactions as positive in good faith. Because it's just not true. The relationship THEY defined, IS fucked up.
And you can absolutely still have that romance in the show, in fact it's such a powerful and nuanced topic to orbit, that my MAIN problem with it, is that it SHOULD be explored SO much more than it was. What an interesting and unique way to explore the topic of the ramifications of unbalanced power dynamics, the culpability of those in power, and the tension between the responsibility that power bestows, against the innate human pursuit of happiness, pleasure, and fulfillment. God, it's RIGHT there, the entire theme of the show inverted and played against the father. It's SO full of insight, and depth, growth, and reflection, that not exploring it can ONLY be justified by not understanding it. The writing of this show REALLY lacks subtlety. Don't get me wrong, it's often quite good writing! It's fun, sometimes heavy, usually three dimensional, but one thing it NEVER is, is subtle with its thesis. So not using this relationship to strengthen the delivery of that thesis, means they just didn't understand it.
It's a problem that they failed to clearly denounce the relationship. The fact that you and I disagree about how the story feels about it, is a problem. We don't disagree on the interpretation, we disagree on if they even meant to say ANYTHING about incest.
@@elijahwest8456 By that definition children growing up as neighbours with very close freinds are also considered family and therefor shouldn't date. Imho it's always circumstantial. it's okay if it feels icky to you, but there's really nothing wrong with it if there's no actual biological relationship, because the genetic damages it has on children is the only thing actually wrong with incest.
I mean, yeah. You're completely right. It's a hugely variable and nuanced situation, and there aren't sweeping rules that cover every case. I just think that the relationship as presented on screen falls pretty cleanly into the "kind of a problem" part of the spectrum. @@nalcarya
I think the characters that least interact are vanya and klaus?? Honestly I can’t think of one conversation they had. They were arguably the most traumatized as children (judging by the flashbacks and scenes we’ve seen in season 1) but they both cope and act very differently, I hope we see more of them as characters interact.
I agree, while most of the siblings at least get SOME moments together, Klaus and Vanya are the only ones who never speak to each other, even when they're sitting right next to each other. The only hint of a relationship we get between the two is when Klaus objects to Vanya being locked up, but then again, so did everyone else. Hopefully, Season 2 will have more interactions between the pair!😀
I don’t get why they even turned out the way they did. Klaus was locked in a dark room for hours forced to hear the screams of the dead. So to make the voices stop he is constantly getting high. Vanya was lied to, disrespected, casted out, and ignored for most of her life. How are either of them functioning people.
@@MykeThaOrphan0209 The point is that they aren't functioning.
Claus spent like, a decade or more perpetually high so he wouldn't hear the dead, and when Vanya discovered how much she was lied to, she lashed out with extreme violence
@@azurehorizonvoid claus lmao
Klaus didn't like when Vanya had been locked up- he tried to make Luther understand by commenting how scared and terrifying it must be for her powers to just come back.
They probably weren't close with eachother because of how similiar they must have been.
Diego's powers are that he can bend the trajectory of any proyectile he throws.
Once you know it you can notice it happening in all of his scenes, but the introduction in the bank robery didn't make it quite clear that those two knives were taking an unnatural trajectory, so he just comes off as being good at throwing knives, which makes it confusing when he does things that shouldn't be possible just by being good.
Oh I thought he could manipulate metal at a small scale but that DOES make a lot more sense
Oh, that's what it was!?
Yes, I came to the comments to write the same.
I'm pretty sure they say it in the show.
It wasn’t clear. But we live in a world filled with super powered characters and I thought it was clear that he had supernatural control of things he throws. Not “of metal” or “of knives” or whatever.
I thought it was that he can hold his breath for an indefinite amount of time???
Allison has the ability to literally kill people with her rumor ability
The foot steps just represented how heavy his steps felt as he ran away. Heavy as in the reveal of his secret wasn't a relief but added burden.
"If there's ever a time when you have to say 'it's not incest technically' that's not good."
Edit: Guys I’m not saying they’re blood related. I’m saying that it’s technically not incest, but it’s a weird situation anyways because they see eachother as siblings. Calm down please.
As a wise man once said, if she’s not related she’s free to be dated. ;)
Haha, klaus literally says something similar to that in season 2 and it’s hilarious
@@laoisemorgan3658 Klaus is a man of culture hands down.
While they call each other family, brother, sister. and and shared a common "dad" and "mom", they lived in a house called the Umbrella Academy and were raised in a more of a scholastic type setting; so their relationships with each other are both sibling like, and classmate like in equal measures. So in this sense, their relationship, even as they call each other Brother and Sister, is not incestuous even when it gets romantic.
In the comics Alison was just using her powers to make her feel better about her divorce
"I don't think Patch loves him. I don't even get an indication that she likes him". Because she doesn't. He was a mistake she made once. She was sexually attracted to a "bad boy" who she later broke up with. Diego's upbringing gave him no adult capacity to form meaningful intimate relationships. He processed their sexual relationship as love and can't let it go.
Andrew Johnson so basically your saying that patch doesn’t love him but for fun.But because of Diego’s upbringing, he wasn’t able to distinguish with true love or fake “fun” love
@@Ben-wq7mi You know, that is a good question. I'm not sure that I could say exactly the nature of their relationship was. However, a common pattern with children of emotional abuse is for them to get into toxic relationships, the healthy pattern realizes that it is toxic, breaks up and tries to move on. The abuse victim, having been given no model of healthy loving relationships clings on, not allowing the other partner to effectively let go. I'm not certain if that is what the screenwriters intended, but that is what I saw when I was watching it.
@@andrewjohnson6716 The only meaningful connection we see him make with anyone outside his family, are with women in both season 1 and 2. Maybe that's because of his bond with Grace?
@@deadbeatreader That's a really good point.
Paul Johnson I don’t think Patch loves him, I think she cares but she isn’t in love with the guy. They’re kind of like old friends and Diego really did care about her he just couldn’t really express/show it because he’s like they all say “Emotionally Stunted”
Just wanted to say that Vanya section was done amazingly. Made me resonate from when my parents would compare me to other cousins or friends. Gave me a bit of tears from that. Just wanted to say thank you for that.
43:15 the time traveling assassin might be a similar age to agnes, remember that they do not age until they are deployed on missions, and they type of crap they do would probably frequently require large amounts of rest between missions. i wouldn't be surprised if hasel were pushing 70 in actual experience.
I like how the time traveller spent 50 years in the future, yet never noticed the moon was missing
I-
I believe the world ended in a different way in the first universe that Five was in during the apocalypse. In that timeline, Vanya didn’t destroy the world from the theater and Harold/Leonard had gotten a fake eye that had been pulled out by Luther.
I think he did, because in the last chapter when he gets to the academy he says "The Moon's is still shining the Earth is in one piece" so like i guess this was almost the same ending, and if not something similar (??)
Yes, it ended in a different way. That's why he found the bodies and the fake eye. They all die fighting in a universe where he never came back, everything change at the moment he did.
Huh I thought it was because of the dust in the air...but the other comments seem more likely
Everyone had their own little coping mechanism.
Number 1, Luther: Unswerving loyalty, try harder to earn affection, strive to be the best.
Number 2, Diego: Vigilantism, try and make everything he did have worth.
Number 3, Allison: Seek attention in fame, use rumor powers to gain undeserved praise.
Number 4, Klaus: Drugs and other stimuli, dull the senses and hide from.his fears.
Number 5: Emotional support animal, find something that won't judge him and attach his hopes, dreams, and beliefs to it.
Number 7, Vanya: Repression of emotions, leading to emotional stunting.
I was wondering why there wasn't a 6 but then i realized that Ben's coping mechanism is being dead.
really cool bird oml I actually cackled at this.
Ben: ded
Y'all kinda laughing at Ben not being on here bc he's dead but like..
His 'coping mechanism' was likely suicide or purposely putting himself in dangerous situations
Suicide and destructive behaviours are both common responses to abuse and it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case for Ben
Honestly, when Luther's body was revealed, I thought he was some kind of werewolf. Because the Moon is kind of his whole thing.
Me to
It was so weird to hear “Ellen” instead of “Elliot”
Ikr
I freaked out at first then had to check when this video was released
@@djnightstep8066 lol same
Quinn Curio definitely doesn't seem like the person who would deadname someone, so this really is just an unfortunate timing thing.
@@uknownada yeah, I think so too
My gay ass couldn’t handle Ellen page in the suit. It was too powerful
Kaneesha Goyal fuckin same
Pretty much exploded my ovaries, grew new ones and blew up again so I feel.
and those shoes... so sexy
The white contacts hit DIFFERENTLY
She's so cringe. The show gets knocked down a few points because of her. She tries too hard to be a man, and tries to hard to dance. Just cringe
I got the sense that Ben just died tragically. It makes the whole dynamic with Klaus work better- like, I'm dead, you're alive, and this is what you do with it?
Hmm I think it can work as well if he did end himself (this sound so bad), then you have the next narrative, live your life to the full extent, don't do what I foolishly did even if life is hard sometimes. It gives a nice message to the viewer and a great character development to Ben as he even if he is dead he regrets doing it and he is trying to lead Klaus to living a better life.
I always got the vibe that along with all of the abuse and the emotional trauma of having dead people talk to you, klaus was jealous of ben. He was abusing drugs and had a general distaste for the normal (like lydia Deetz from beetlejuice) I think it makes a lot of sense canonically that klaus is suicidal/depressed
I think he accidentally killed himself using his powers.
I think any of your siblings dying at an early age counts as tragic
I’ve always thought Ben killed himself, because as a child he always seemed to be the one who actively hated the powers he had, and really didn’t want them. He shows regret more that remourse over his death when he’s talking to klaus about it. Also the plaque on his statue says something like ‘the darkness inside him won’ which sounds like a poetic way to say he killed himself because he hated the powers he had. Idk I could be looking to far into it tho
I kinda wonder if grace was created not just as a counter to vanya hating every one of her caretakers, but as a counter to Allison’s ability to rumor. Allison can rumor Reginald, but can she rumor Grace? What happens if Allison did rumor Reginald, would Grace be like “Sir, weren’t you about to begin doing paperwork? Why are you making Allison a chocolate sundae?” Or something to knock him out of it. Or maybe Reginald is immune cause he’s an alien. Who knows.
I think Allison's plot breaking potential should have been vocalized by the in show characters the same way Luther's body should have been.
Her vow to not use her powers would have so much more weight and legitimacy to the audience if we could see allison struggle between the consequences of using her powers in ways that are abusive vs her family pushing her to use her powers because people are getting hurt and killed when she doesnt.
A screwed if you do, screwed if you dont kind of struggle that gives the audience an acceptably digestible reason to be ok with her not fixing all the problems in the show with ease.
I mean, i feel like they did that withc the scenes involving her rumoring claire to make her sleep as well as when she was remembering all the things she did like rumoring people into falling in love with her and rumoring people into giving her roles. Like it they don't outright state it but everything in Allison's life was fake, her career and her love life and eventually it came back to bite her in the form of her losing custody of her kid.
During the section about Alison and Luther's relationship, there is piano music in the background. It is a cover of a song from the parody series "Friendship is Witchcraft".
The song is called "It'll be OK". The song is about a romantic relationship between a character and her adopted brother.
A part of the song says specifically "Since we're not related it'll be OK".
I heard the music. I recognized the song. I laughed so hard I cried.
I am in love with the attention to detail the author of this video has.
FluffyMind 👏🏻
Well Alabama it doesn't mean ur good to go .....
Is that real? Thats fucken HILARIOUS
Just an explanation: Diego's super power is his inhuman hand-eye coordination. It's not just the knives. His ability to climb buildings and slip in through windows etc, is all part of it. The knives are just the primary expression.
I didnt get that at all, his power is telekinesis but it isn't very strong, he can only use it on small medium speed objects, hence why he can bend the curve of a knife through the air but couldn't do it with a bullet, hence why he doesn't use guns and bend bullets. They all recieved combat training.
@@Mikimarux this is (AFAIK) only truly apparent in the second series.
@@BrentHollett he bends knives through the air many times in the first series. Thats not possible without telekinesis, i always thought he was similar to the main character in the Wanted comic book who bends bullets with telekinesis (the film changed it) I can see how someone could miss it though.
@@Mikimarux in both this show and the Wanted movie, telekinesis wasn't mentioned (though it's clear in the final episode of the 2nd Umbrella season.)
This comment was posted before that aired.
@@BrentHollett yeah, I mentioned that, it was in the Wanted comic book, not the movie as I said. Rewatch season one of umbrella academy, he throws knives and they turn 90 degrees in the air on a dime, multiple times. Some things don't need to be outright stated to be inferred. I'm pretty sure no one said that Luther has super strength but that's inferred by his actions.
I find it super frustrating that no one believes Five and thought it was just bad writing before I realized that their reaction is incredibly realistic. You know the quote: 'no prophet is accepted in his home town' (Luke 4:16-30), and 'Only in his home town and in his own house is a prophet without honor' (Matt. 13:54-57). In other words, people are less inclined to believe someone who they know or more likely, someone they THINK they know could actually be right. They still remember him as this arrogant, self-entitled 13 year old boy. They even go as far as to say that maybe Reginald was right and time travel really did have an effect on Five's sanity. This denial reveals that even if they could believe it - they simply don't want to. And by the time they realize Five may be right, its too late and they witness their world collapse around them. This is why Five is my favorite character: he's as dysfunctional as the rest of them but knows how to pull himself together and focus on what's important.
I love that Claus is appearently the oldest character (considering how he vietnam for 9 months, and he teleported further back in time than the rest of them. So he has straight up just lived longer. Besides from 5) but he acts as if he’s the annoying younger brother
5's actor talked on twitter about why his character doesn't have a name. It's not because 5 left before they all got names, it's because 5 didn't want a name
In the comics its because 5 left before they all got names
it's both
Gerard Way did say that Five embraced his number as a name instead of a rank because to him it doesn't matter.
Yeah because when the kids all go to see Reginald at night Grace calls 'Number Three' Allison, so they must have been named in the TV show before he left. Which is a change from the comics where he left before they were named. I wonder how they'll explain it.
@@263Adder The thing is that, in the comics, Five left when they were younger than ten years old, if I'm not mistaken, so he never got a real name. But in the series, he was already thirteen or something, so they were already named.
Personally, my favorite character is Klaus. He was funny in the first episodes, even though that was mainly because he was always high, but then you get to find out so many things about how his father and his powers affect him that you start to care for him.
Plus, he had great character development as we get to see more of his personality when he's clean and worried about Dave and his siblings.
he's also kinda cute
My favorite thing about klaus is he's the only on screen connection to Reginalds abuse, yes by examining his actions and the characters reactions you know it must have been very bad but the only time the true scope is shown is when he locks Klaus in the mausoleum. And it also shows how his own siblings neglect and ignore him when he says he's been tortured, killed at the rave, and trapped in the Vietnam war they don't believe him or care. Even though we are led to believe they are all empathetic people.
It absolutely breaks my heart how he has to live a life like this because he is a good person. The amount of trauma he has gone through is not acknowledged at all and everyone just takes him for the comical junkie. It breaks my fucking heart
Re Diego: "He's not gonna hold his breath indefinitely, waiting for his dad to change" I see what you did there ☝🏾😏 Clever.