Explaining The Berzerker

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  • @jen0v4
    @jen0v4 2 роки тому +79

    My love for you is like a truck, BERZERKER
    Would you like some making fuck, BERZERKER
    My love for you is like a rock, BERZERKER
    The Berserker is just so obscene
    Likes evil people you know what I mean
    He takes your soul and then just rips you apart
    He'll steal your heart
    Would you like to smoke some pot, BERZERKER
    My love for you is ticking clock, BERZERKER
    Would you like to suck my cock, BERZERKER
    Would you like some making fuck, BERZERKER

  • @eskimopi8617
    @eskimopi8617 Рік тому +10

    Luke Kenny aka the berzerker was a drummer for a death metal band. He was in a car accident and banged up his back. He couldn’t drum anymore because of it, and got onto programming drums with industrial hardcore techno. A few years later he gets the idea to bring in what he knew from that genre and mixed it into death metal. Creating a fusion of some of the most extreme genres there are. He went into photography and video production after 2010 or so. Also his girlfriend is in the TATU cover, probably for her for a laugh. It’s all true.

  • @brownpaste
    @brownpaste Рік тому +17

    "do it again". "do it again.". "yeah, that one was perfect, but do it again [deletes perfect take]"

  • @Thesenseiformerlyknownas
    @Thesenseiformerlyknownas 2 роки тому +22

    I remember buying "Dissimulate" on CD years back and was blown away by the intensity. The drums on No-one Wins were just annihilating.

  • @fabriziogarreta7400
    @fabriziogarreta7400 2 роки тому +19

    "forever" is one of the best metal songs of all time .the Berzerker are honestly one of the most legendary extreme metal bands ever and they deserve the upmost respect.

  • @l0nlym1lk17
    @l0nlym1lk17 2 роки тому +14

    The bezerker Is such a brutal and underrated band. Thanks for doing this video.

  • @DJTheMetalheadMercenary
    @DJTheMetalheadMercenary 2 роки тому +8

    "No one ever wins..."
    Fvcking love the Berzerker, leave it to the Aussies to make to make a project like that successful.

  • @superiormusic
    @superiormusic 2 роки тому +53

    One of the most underappreciated bands of the early 2000s

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 2 роки тому

      Not at the time. Everyone I talked to about metal brought them up.

    • @superiormusic
      @superiormusic 2 роки тому

      @@patrickbertlein4626 I don't have much personal perspective on the scene back then, so you very well be right. They don't seem to pop up much now however. Just crossing my fingers they'll complete the new album soon!

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@superiormusic I know this is the ultimate "boomer" comment, but I don't think this generation of metal fans is as concerned over discovering bands from before their time. Could be wrong but its been my impression talking to people today and seeing comments/what bands get followed.
      All that being said, regarding Berzerker I was talking to a lot of Aussie metal fans at the time, so could be my bias. Still though they definitely were getting some borderline mainstream press, keep in mind another masked band came out right before so they were definitely talked about.

    • @jaged314
      @jaged314 Рік тому

      The

    • @ashemocha
      @ashemocha 11 місяців тому

      @@patrickbertlein4626 must be that they were big in australia, sometimes i feel like i'm the only mf who listens to them where i live
      sidenote but australia should be recognised for never making bad music

  • @cheshirecynic3061
    @cheshirecynic3061 2 роки тому +19

    One of my favorite bands of all time, easily. I own their "Principles and Practices" DVD, and have watched it more times than I'd like to admit. Luke's commitment to getting that first album done was absolutely insane, basically bankrupted himself to make it happen. I'm so fucking glad he's finally making music again :)

  • @destinybennett666
    @destinybennett666 2 роки тому +9

    I discovered The Bezerker from their cover of Carcass Corporal Jigsore Quandary. I've been a Carcass fan for years so when I heard their cover I was instantly hooked

  • @linesinwax4996
    @linesinwax4996 2 роки тому +20

    Damn! Been working on my own Berzerker video over the last few weeks - so was shocked to see this pop up on my feed. Love ‘em or hate ‘em nobody really seems to talk about them anymore, especially over in the USA - so I’m stoked you made this.

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 2 роки тому +1

      They are still very much active in music sam and matt have werewolves and they recently dropped the new antichrist imperium record with david gray and sam loynes from akercocke/voices.

  • @feathers8270
    @feathers8270 2 роки тому +7

    Speaking of why they abandaoned their masks, as I remember, in one of the interviews he said that those soaked in too much salt from all the sweating, they literally fell apart after a tour. Also, I believe, after the disband Luke was working as a wedding photographer of all things, stating that it was bringing far more money than he ever could doing metal.

  • @bearingthatcross5498
    @bearingthatcross5498 2 роки тому +6

    Honestly best cybergrind band

  • @merginator
    @merginator 2 роки тому +7

    I found The Berzerker due to my love for Slipknot's IOWA and how Jordison said how Deicide's Legion was his inspiration for extreme drumming during that time, so I found out death metal due to that. I dove further into Roadrunner Records artists but it was limited. I then found Earache Records and checked out everything on their roster, including The Berzerker.
    I was blown away by how unique they were and how bat shit heavy they were.

  • @vlyrch
    @vlyrch 2 роки тому +2

    My brother made me listen to The Berzerker when I was like 10-12, and my mind was blown. They used to be one of my favourite bands, but it'd probably been close to ten years since I listened to them at all, so this video gave me a huge nostalgia rush. Listening to their self-titled album right now, it's still great. I had no idea they'd reunited, but that's really exciting if they actually get something done.

  • @22tfortnitevevo
    @22tfortnitevevo 2 роки тому +2

    HOLY SHIT I LOVE THIS BAND
    thank you so much for introducing me to them in your grindcore iceberg video. i'd already gone deep into the grindcore rabbit hole, but this band was so aggressive, i still play it when i want to blow my ears out (second to the gerogerigegege of course). also, some of their songs are just crazy in the car.

  • @Ilikewater-andice
    @Ilikewater-andice 2 дні тому

    Discovering The Berzerker on your own in middle/highschool really seems to be the common thing for The Berzerker fans

  • @diabeticmonkey
    @diabeticmonkey 2 роки тому +2

    Glad you put this out, dude. I’ve been thinking about digging into their discog for a few weeks now, so I think this might be the push I needed

  • @mindful2864
    @mindful2864 2 роки тому +2

    The Berzerker is definitely one of the most unique and creative grind bands of the 2000's. Very good retrospective on them.

  • @dylanjfkfif
    @dylanjfkfif 2 роки тому +1

    Man you have introduced me to so many good bands

  • @4ztaroth
    @4ztaroth Рік тому +2

    What is cool is that luke kenny never forgot about his hardcore side, even before this album was released he released a record called full scale riot as kenny gee and then in 2006 another one called boom breaker in an italian label. He also played in several hardcore and speedcore parties (i think one of them was I Hate Trance) as a DJ with the berzerker stage name as solo project, i literally can't love him enough hahah.

  • @ryalwoods1087
    @ryalwoods1087 2 роки тому +2

    when your artistic vision sends your drummer into an existential spiral, you know you're on to something (but their loss of drummers is giving me This Is Spinal Tap vibes). jokes aside, this was really interesting, thanks!

  • @food223
    @food223 2 роки тому +1

    Got to see them live, amazing band

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 2 роки тому +5

    The reason for the delay in the berzerker material is because Sam and Matt currently have two beasts of projects at the moment werewolves and the Antichrist imperium who have put out multiple records. Also drummer wise not just Gary Thomas don’t forget David "blast vader" gray the only man to play in both the berzerker and anaal nathrakh.

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 2 роки тому +1

      The antichrist imperium re recorded "compromise" forget tatu covers it's the direction the berzerker should have gone down, they made a brutal song even more brutal. Their new record 3 "satan in his original glory" is my death metal record of the year.

    • @werewolvesdeathmetal
      @werewolvesdeathmetal Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the kind words about Werewolves and TAI, but we're not the ones causing the delay in new Berzerker material

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 Рік тому +2

      @@werewolvesdeathmetal Cheers for the clarification Sam, also I saw your recent into the necrosphere interview was great stuff, the story about mayhem being anti social was coffee splutteringly funny.

  • @HeathenMa666oT
    @HeathenMa666oT 2 роки тому +6

    Sam was definitely an unsung hero. If you listen to his first solo album as The Senseless, you can hear riffs that were used in the S/T Berzerker album in their original form as Sam wrote them. Much slower and groovier but still really damn good but that first album from The Senseless also has a big influence from The Berzerker. Well worth checking out of you want a chill version of The Berzerker and to see where some of those insane riffs came from originally... Really hope that 6th album from the boys finally sees the light of day eventually

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 2 роки тому +1

      At least we have the antichrist imperium and werewolves at the moment with sam and matt.

  • @FlyboyHelosim
    @FlyboyHelosim Рік тому

    I love The Berzerker and discovered them back around '99 after getting into Slipknot and masked bands. I think either 'Reality' or 'Forever' was on a magazine covermount CD and that's when I first heard them. A major point not mentioned in this video as to why the music video for 'Reality' was banned was also because of the still images from autopsies. Although supposedly the most extreme band on the planet, I kind of take that with a pinch of salt and see that as a bit of marketing hyperbole. There are definitely bands that have songs I would consider 'heavier' than those of The Berzerker, and although the drums initially seem super fast and impressive, really aren't once you strip away the triggers. There's footage of Gary playing drums both with and without the triggers on the DVD, and it's night and day what you hear. Sure, every note is being played but there's no power behind it and sounds nothing as monstrous as the final mix. Not to mention the fact that if they were so fast, and therefore so hard to duplicate, they wouldn't have gone through a bunch of drummers to play live. Even Luke himself played drums during some early shows and he's just the vocalist. The incompetence on display during the recording of the first album as shown on the DVD also just makes one wonder about the overall proficiency of the band. I get the feeling that much more established extreme metal musicians could have pulled off something equally as precise and brutal with far less effort and fuss. Definitely a unique and cool band, one of my first, but only to take them for what they truly are. I also wish they'd have kept the masks, even though they felt more of a gimmick than Slipknot's, as it leant a level of visualization of what the band sounded like. Once the masks came off, they really just blended into the background of the dozens of extreme metal bands at the time.

  • @3SCAPER00M13
    @3SCAPER00M13 Рік тому +1

    I love their masks, they're one of the reasons I wanna make my own costumes and masks of my own.

  • @the_real_tay_loud2072
    @the_real_tay_loud2072 Рік тому

    Yo shoutout pitch shifter! And I discovered Berzerker in high school as well while searching for something extreme and macabre. I just re listened to them after maybe 20 years and it brings back so many memories

  • @charlesromley
    @charlesromley Рік тому

    I actually worked with Gary Thomas for a number of years and he was the coolest laid back nicest guys you could ever meet. He told me a few stories about the bezerker days and touring the USA. Watch this space as there will probably be a book come out in the future from one of the roadies......stuff you could make a movie out of

  • @xwolfiegreenwoodx
    @xwolfiegreenwoodx 2 роки тому +2

    I always saw the Tatu cover as them taking the piss. It is pretty hilarious tbh.

  • @SeanS1995
    @SeanS1995 2 роки тому +1

    Was literally just checking your channel for new material

  • @chriswyer7144
    @chriswyer7144 4 місяці тому

    I saw them for the world of lies tour for my 18th. It was an incredible night! That was when David Grey was working with them.

  • @mikethepsych2084
    @mikethepsych2084 2 роки тому

    I keep the Doc in my YT playlist. Great band.

  • @carlwilspang1039
    @carlwilspang1039 2 роки тому +1

    Love these videos. Very simple, but very effective and enjoyable

  • @ThePeoplesMikey
    @ThePeoplesMikey 2 роки тому

    I always saw their dvd at Tower Records and thought they seemed interesting (especially seeing the mask on the back cover). I also noticed they were on Earache, so I saw that as a good sign. When I saw the dvd on sale, I picked it up. Great band. Wished a lot of people heard them. Whenever I mention The Berzerker, people bring up the scene from CLERKS.

  • @someweirdguy5721
    @someweirdguy5721 Рік тому +1

    Easily one of the greatest bands of all time nobody has ever set a milestone like them and then maintain that milestone for as long as they have it's sad to see them go but I'm so grateful they did what they did

  • @sewerslidemg
    @sewerslidemg 2 роки тому +5

    Berserker is such great n fun band
    I hope they make a new album at sum point, them and cephalic Carnage I've patiently waiting 🤘

  • @dmbellum7312
    @dmbellum7312 Рік тому

    I was lucky enough to see and interact with this band many moons back and its even more brutal live

  • @AllenBoseman04
    @AllenBoseman04 Рік тому

    World of lies is my personal favorite of theirs

  • @benchippy8039
    @benchippy8039 2 роки тому +1

    Just recently got into these since I see your grindcore iceberg. They look daft but Love their sound

  • @Slotmachine305
    @Slotmachine305 3 місяці тому

    We used to listen to the berserker and we were all gabber and speedcore heads from Scotland 💪

  • @knen666
    @knen666 2 роки тому +3

    sooo when will we see new GBK album review?

  • @alexmitchell5339
    @alexmitchell5339 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant video! I've lost count how many times I've watched the documentary lol. I never understood why after being signed by Earache, Luke was left to his own devices to record and mix the album. I thought record labels sort all that out for bands? Didn't Earache give him any money at all?

    • @diegodiniz-zw9fn
      @diegodiniz-zw9fn 21 день тому

      Today I think that signing up to big records labels isn't guarante of success at all.The music industry has changed a lot and many bands have not got to follow the fast-growing change in the industry,therefore;it comes to result in:a bunch of contracts signed among bands and records labels as well as contracts being torn down frequentely.

  • @Giga_Ninja
    @Giga_Ninja 2 роки тому +2

    I fucking LOVE Berzerker.

  • @ac-130fan
    @ac-130fan 2 роки тому +4

    Where did you get your Hell Hammer shirt?? 😃

  • @Ghoulstille
    @Ghoulstille 2 роки тому +2

    I have the 4 easily accessible albums I probably won't bother with the 5th because of the crazy price of it. I came across The Berzerker on Limewire or Kaazaa around 2002. I was only able to get Cannibal Rights to fully download. At that time it was impossible to find there available cd's anywhere that weren't under $50 because of the damn import fees. It wasn't until about 2015 when I was finally able to get their first two albums for a reasonable price.

  • @98romenningthoujam
    @98romenningthoujam 2 роки тому +1

    yeah great band

  • @frysiandude
    @frysiandude Рік тому

    I always was under the impressions that they were the fastest in bps, and the first band with masks. Proud i still have my berzerker sweater from the 2006 tour

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim Рік тому

      Definitely not the first band with masks. 😂

  • @warlich
    @warlich 2 роки тому +1

    good content keep it up man

  • @nahbrush6077
    @nahbrush6077 Рік тому

    Hey Wyatt, thanks for the vid 🤑💕

  • @Buried_With_Leeches
    @Buried_With_Leeches 2 роки тому +1

    Was lucky enough to see The Berzerker twice in my hometown, they were incredible live. Got to hang out with Luke and Sam at both shows, super nice guys, signed all my cd’s and dvd.
    Sam hung around in England for a bit and ended up playing the same venue again fronting an awesome UK death metal band called Mithras, which are Englands answer to Formaulas era Morbid Angel. Here’s a video of Sam playing at that show in 2009.
    ua-cam.com/video/Wtgn2yX0VXk/v-deo.html

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 2 роки тому +1

    They are underrated .

  • @ChrisPBacon710
    @ChrisPBacon710 2 роки тому

    berzerker 1000% not my cup of tea but will comment to support :)
    plus my love for you is like a rock BERZERKER

  • @ATREL1X3R
    @ATREL1X3R 2 роки тому +1

    Been listening to them since they dropped the 1st album.

  • @immyownbestfriend9338
    @immyownbestfriend9338 Рік тому

    i saw them once in 2003 awesome band.

  • @vergolioprod
    @vergolioprod 2 роки тому

    They walked so Disfiguring the Goddess could run

  • @patrickr2686
    @patrickr2686 Рік тому

    Todd is a really talented drummer

  • @patrickr2686
    @patrickr2686 Рік тому

    They posted a video years ago on MySpace on how their label was screwing them

  • @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv
    @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv 6 місяців тому

    Gwar was an art school project.

  • @Jacob_the_Dabbler
    @Jacob_the_Dabbler Рік тому

    I'm pretty sure Todd Hansen played drums on the demos from 98 to 2000. He's currently playing in King Parrot; another extreme aussie band you'd probably like if you haven't heard them already

    • @werewolvesdeathmetal
      @werewolvesdeathmetal Рік тому +1

      King Parrot and Todd are great, but he didn't join until around 2007/8

    • @Jacob_the_Dabbler
      @Jacob_the_Dabbler Рік тому +1

      @@werewolvesdeathmetal Ah fuck I'm way off haha

  • @lary6187
    @lary6187 2 роки тому

    Hey can you talk about تدنيس tadnees they are my favorite band this time

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 2 роки тому

    I remember a video they made where it has real heads caved in . But its hard to find .

  • @lars5174
    @lars5174 2 роки тому +1

    Lol that's exactly my story but my first exposure was "No one wins"

  • @KevinEckert-wp6xm
    @KevinEckert-wp6xm 5 місяців тому

    If you haven't already, check out Sam Beans Project The Senseless.

  • @steffren
    @steffren 7 місяців тому

    Also just to clarify, Luke mixed, mastered and produced almost all of the albums. Specifically the last two. Dissimulate is a fan favourite because it's their most brutal album, and it was also one of their only albums to feature human drumming.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for saying what I said in the video . Almost as if I know what I’m talking about

    • @steffren
      @steffren 7 місяців тому

      ​@wyattxhim dude I'm drunk and enjoying the good old times, what the fuck do you expect?

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  7 місяців тому

      @@steffren how am I supposed to know that ?

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 2 роки тому

    Great stuff like this - is why I question the validity of some other bands.

  • @NAT-turners-Revenge
    @NAT-turners-Revenge 2 роки тому +1

    🤔 "back in high school" .... for me it was 6th grade in 1993--- uncle's CD collection discovered emperor/megadeth and went from there

  • @holoceph3916
    @holoceph3916 2 роки тому +1

    Probably one of the few bands to start out as a gabber/speedcore act then become an extreme metal band. I'm sure they got tired of the surface-level comparison to Slipknot with the masks

  • @kingink7964
    @kingink7964 2 роки тому +1

    clearly what was running through their head when making that tatu cover were the things she said, wyatt

  • @donmcron3334
    @donmcron3334 Рік тому

    Do you have a video showing your tattoos:

  • @howiemandel5787
    @howiemandel5787 Рік тому

    This video deserves to have a million views it makes me sad that ur not a bigger channel but I feel like most people just only wanna watch heavily produced & edited content that feels like it’s a television level documentary because people have gotten used to expecting that amount of production value & editing from literally every type of UA-cam channel & feel like it’s really fuckin lame & stupid bc it doesn’t effect what information you’re getting from a video at all but people just won’t watch something that’s not edited the way a video essay is unfortunately

  • @ortmand11
    @ortmand11 9 місяців тому

    Burzum has to kneel .. said from a danish viking..

  • @BaddBadger
    @BaddBadger Рік тому

    I managed to see The Berzerker live. I thought ''No human can possibly play that drumming''.... I was wrong.

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim 11 місяців тому

      To be fair though they sound pretty shit live and the drumming is simplified A LOT.

    • @BaddBadger
      @BaddBadger 11 місяців тому

      @@FlyboyHelosim Have to disagree with half of what you say there. Up close and personal and a tiny venue they were breathtaking. But yeah, the drum parts were probably simplified a bit so a human had any chance at all of playing them.

  • @OfWhatsToCome
    @OfWhatsToCome 5 місяців тому

    First time I heard them, I actually hated them, that snare drum noise bothered the fucking hell out of me.
    But for some reason, I just kept listening and listening, and sure enough they are still my favorite band today, and Dissimulate and the S/T are probably my favorite albums of all time.

  • @MichaelLynch1
    @MichaelLynch1 9 місяців тому

    Still to this day , i regard The Berzerker as the heaviest band ever, if any guys,here in the comments can advise on heavier, love the extrema metal 👌

  • @leonhardtbelgar2468
    @leonhardtbelgar2468 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine if DIS/Portal appeared on that list instead of The Berzerker

  • @patrickr2686
    @patrickr2686 Рік тому

    You should cover the one man band Blood soaked

  • @siebensunden
    @siebensunden 2 роки тому

    I've never been fan of The Berzerker but if you are yourself a fan of this band and metal mixing with extreme electronics in general, you should give a spin to a French band called Lex Talionis. Their music is something like death metal was going martial and orchestral with some speedcore drumming. Their first two albums "Inhuman Violence" and "Supreme Aggression" are more metal oriented, their third and final album "Guitarscreamachine" went in a more electro way but still being extreme in its own way.

  • @neonblack211
    @neonblack211 4 місяці тому

    the rumor about him being the fastest drummer on earth is complete internet fabrication

  • @brianbowman7681
    @brianbowman7681 Рік тому

    I saw them in Ohio with IMMOLATION..... They blew my mind

  • @Marius-tr9vf
    @Marius-tr9vf 2 роки тому

    "Explaining Portal" next!

  • @DrMurdercock
    @DrMurdercock Рік тому

    Everyone hated this band when they came out. The masks made everyone take them as a joke. Went to see them live in Columbus with Vader, Origin and Immolation and the crowd heckled them non stop.

  • @theGarbs
    @theGarbs Рік тому

    As far as intense metal bands go I think the only band "heavier" is Mortician - but thats purely an EQ thing - I still prefer The Berzerker

  • @J-T99
    @J-T99 2 роки тому

    I'm pretty sure the corpses in the video for reality is also why it was banned

  • @murray9807
    @murray9807 2 роки тому +1

    Tell me if you watched this video and now YT won't stop recommending you videos of their music.

  • @gasmaskcollectorreview1537
    @gasmaskcollectorreview1537 2 роки тому +1

    If you put The berzerker with Black metal you got Iperyt

  • @patrickbertlein4626
    @patrickbertlein4626 2 роки тому +1

    I missed seeing them live by about half an hour. Not sure why I made it late to the show, must have been work or girlfriend, but definitely sucks.

  • @kurtencall8343
    @kurtencall8343 8 місяців тому

    I wish berserker would come back make new music mask and all🤘

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 2 роки тому

    People always say Melbourne weird lol .
    Its “mel-bn” ( i know people that live there and i have asked about how some say it) ive also heard it as mely-born lol .

  • @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv
    @AtropalArbaal-dk8jv 6 місяців тому

    Saw them with the masks.

  • @napalmslayer
    @napalmslayer Рік тому

    I remember being at college and blasting out "forever" in class and these two girls sat next to me were absolutely shitting themselves.

  • @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063
    @eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 2 роки тому +1

    Oddly i like tatu lol

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 2 роки тому +1

    New arizmenda yo

  • @arisebeats1851
    @arisebeats1851 Рік тому

    Berzerker...l
    The locust

  • @aliyariilia
    @aliyariilia 2 роки тому

    0:00

    • @dreadpang
      @dreadpang 2 роки тому +5

      thanks i was wondering when the video started

  • @Takaho31
    @Takaho31 4 місяці тому

    When they started playing live shows in baseball hats & sweat pants, I completely lost all interest and respect for the *BERZERKER* .

  • @mattdestroyer77
    @mattdestroyer77 2 роки тому

    Pronounce it Mel-burn.

  • @RichardCranium.
    @RichardCranium. 2 роки тому

    Tatu is a band for coomers.

  • @spencergrady5501
    @spencergrady5501 2 роки тому

    stop smiling.

  • @qombie
    @qombie Рік тому

    dude i first heard them because i thought the album cover was cool and i forgot about them until i found ur page thank u wyatt :D