Explaining USBM (United States Black Metal)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 536

  • @jackattak1209
    @jackattak1209 Рік тому +164

    Another example of the United States making a response to a European scene with a more angry attitude is punk. I am of the belief that punk belongs to the UK. But the United States can lay claim to hardcore. Stripped down. More angry. No studs and leather. Just sweatshirts and jeans but much faster and stripped down. Punk is European originally, but the United States' response was hardcore.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Рік тому +54

      damn I was actually going to say that in this video but decided not to cause im not that well versed in punk's music

    • @jackattak1209
      @jackattak1209 Рік тому +9

      @@wyattxhim as much of a metalhead as I am, I consider myself more of a punk. And even still, assigning punk to the UK is a "hot take" to some punks. So I don't blame you for not talking about it lol. Love the video man

    • @richardwhitehead40
      @richardwhitehead40 Рік тому +6

      @@jackattak1209 would you say there is or are European punks bands that predate the Stooges and MC5? I know those two can be considered proto-punk, but I think they've been cited as the two forerunners of the genre enough to make a solid case for them.

    • @jackattak1209
      @jackattak1209 Рік тому +5

      @@richardwhitehead40 I don't think have any bands from the UK that predate Stooges/MC5. But while I LOVE those bands, I think proto-punk is a perfect descriptor. Same applies to Ramones imo. But punk really came to form with those late 70s UK bands. Again, no disrespect to iggy or MC5. Just my perspective!

    • @richardwhitehead40
      @richardwhitehead40 Рік тому +4

      @@jackattak1209, I can go with that. Honestly when I was younger the "who did what and when" mattered a lot more to me. Now I spend more time appreciating the new music I'm able to discover that I like and disregard the music nerd elitism. Or at least try to. I was kind of hoping you were going to fill me in on a band or two that I'd missed. Always on the lookout for new stuff.

  • @illlistentowhateveriwantto933
    @illlistentowhateveriwantto933 Рік тому +212

    Now explain USPS

  • @ryanleroux1037
    @ryanleroux1037 Рік тому +97

    It’s nice to see a video where someone talking about USBM isn’t just gushing over Leviathan and Jef Whitehead the whole time.

    • @altnap
      @altnap Рік тому +7

      Lol

    • @chasedispennette5989
      @chasedispennette5989 Рік тому +2

      fr

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +36

      perfectly reasonable to gush over Leviathan/Lurker of Chalice.

    • @chasedispennette5989
      @chasedispennette5989 Рік тому +25

      @@spergerkang5291 he’s gushed over for a reason, super talented dude

    • @honeycomblord9384
      @honeycomblord9384 Рік тому +7

      I'd also reccomend Eddy Metal's video about USBM, it's another good guide that goes over lots of bands

  • @thescrawl6594
    @thescrawl6594 Рік тому +56

    USBM excels when it goes beyond boundaries of what is considered "Black Metal" while remaining true to its spirit. The best example of this in my opinion is Agalloch, which might not have much black metal instrumentation, but is definitely black metal in its soul and atmosphere.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому

      @@aquacamel posers can't gatekeep

    • @aSandwich.13
      @aSandwich.13 Рік тому +3

      Minenwerfer has really pushed the boundaries of black metal as well. Shit the guitar work on alpenpasse is like straight out of David Gilmour's playbook.

    • @eyeseayew189
      @eyeseayew189 Рік тому +3

      @@aSandwich.13 that band is extremely good. I thought they were European at first.

    • @aSandwich.13
      @aSandwich.13 Рік тому +2

      @@eyeseayew189 Nah they're American. They're a bit sus, but holy fuck their music dude.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +2

      @@aSandwich.13 a bit sus? what does that mean?

  • @BT-ic2qs
    @BT-ic2qs Рік тому +16

    Hugely underrated usbm is masochist. They only released demos but there’s a compilation of all that material called history and it’s so killer. Brutal aggressive black metal that I see no one ever talk about

  • @richardwhitehead40
    @richardwhitehead40 Рік тому +50

    I'm 45 and just recently dipped my toe into the black metal pool about 2 months ago. I knew nothing about it besides it sounded like death metal with a banshee singing over it when I first heard it in the mid 90s. And of course the sensational stuff that you learn in the first 5 minutes of looking into this genre. Digging a bit more I liked enough of what I heard of Burzum to look deeper and ended up at blackgaze and dark ambient stuff, stopping along the way to look into USBM like Weakling, Leviathan and Xasthur. Your videos have helped me quite a bit Just wanted to say thanks for helping an old dude whose musical curiosity got the best of him one day.

  • @aaronmertz9824
    @aaronmertz9824 Рік тому +48

    Jef Whitehead was indeed inspired by Weakling as he said so in interviews. He also cited Andrew Harris' guitar work in Judas Iscariot as one of the biggest influences on Leviathan riffs.

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому +2

      Jon from Weakling was in a band called Gault, HIGHLY under rated.

    • @markpitt2474
      @markpitt2474 Рік тому +7

      Jeff Whitehead is a pioneer in American Black Metal. What he went through with his ex his old record label, fans and friends turning their backs, it was horrible. However; he got married got a new label had a kid and put out ScarSighted a master piece. A true man's hero.

    • @CreepsSixSixSix
      @CreepsSixSixSix 8 місяців тому

      Jef whitehead is a woman beater, found guilty of choking his gf unconscious, just saying.

  • @I.P1976
    @I.P1976 Рік тому +63

    VON is definitely the 1st real USBM band & very influential on the Norwegian scene. Weakling’s Dead As Dreams is a masterpiece!!

    • @I.P1976
      @I.P1976 Рік тому +13

      @@jimminyjillickers6391 Fenriz was listening to Von before writing Transylvanian Hunger

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +11

      @@jimminyjillickers6391 Where do Watain take their name from? Did Dork Funeral cover a Von song? I think they did.

    • @diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645
      @diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645 Рік тому +4

      Seen von live years ago

    • @mariozd971
      @mariozd971 Рік тому +3

      I definitely most like Inquisition, especially the last album Black Mass... , then Leviathan, Judas Iscariot, Black Funeral and of newer bands Cobalt, espeçially albums Eater of Birds and Gin !

  • @badreligionshirtguy
    @badreligionshirtguy Рік тому +6

    I use videos like these videos as gateways to find new albums, I have so much fun getting nerdy and in the weeds about niche corners of scenes like this. I’d love to hear you deep dive like this about other genres/regions. Keep up the great work!

  • @dennisjordan4952
    @dennisjordan4952 Рік тому +11

    Von, profantica, manticore, and demoncy are a great starting point

  • @popetones7400
    @popetones7400 Рік тому +11

    I’ve always thought Judas Iscariot was totally its own thing. Their songs are unbelievably catchy, almost pop hooks, and great changes. I think they are a good band in general and not just BM or definitely just not a sub-genre. Same w Xasthur. It’s just good music.

  • @TheTundraTerror
    @TheTundraTerror Рік тому +11

    Loving these videos just because I find it's a great resource for getting people into more extreme versions of metal (as well as metal in general).

  • @OmegaSwitch
    @OmegaSwitch Рік тому +2

    Immediately appreciated you playing Wanderings in the background. One of the first USBM albums that sucked me in and it's still one of my favorites.

  • @charlescollins6272
    @charlescollins6272 Рік тому +4

    Easily your best video. Big fan of deep dives on scenes and genres and this was really well done. Also, as a Profanatica fanboy I particularly enjoyed the segment regarding them. Good stuff, dude.

  • @chairmanmeow958
    @chairmanmeow958 Рік тому +3

    This is an amazing video. I just found your channel a couple of days ago when I was looking for some background info and bands in the Death Metal and Black Metal Genres. I love music and have always listened to a lot of deathcore, metalcore, some more melodic death metal and more "mainstream" sounding or "palatable" metal acts but I have been getting more into experimental music and really crunchy, ambient, dissonant types of music not just in metal but in electronic and hip hop music as well. I have no background really when it comes to black metal so when I searched I found your channel. I was hooked immediately because of the down to earth vibe and the lack of any kind of condescending tone or anything like that in your videos. I can tell you are just a dude who loves all different kinds of music and knows a lot about these genres and that is that kind of channel I have been looking for. You got my subscription and I cant wait to see what content you come up with in the future.

  • @user-qz7ob2gb6o
    @user-qz7ob2gb6o Рік тому +11

    Xasthur in my opinion is a pinnacle of usbm because he did something no other did lyrically. He covered the hate and pain in making the music better and less cliche than many other bands in my opinion. He was really depressed where as others went for more shock value especially when Satan is brought up, these days it kind of makes my eyes roll because it's not shocking to me

    • @eyeseayew189
      @eyeseayew189 Рік тому

      The satanic thing was a response to the foreign alien religion which inhabits their land.

    • @akillen77
      @akillen77 Рік тому +3

      There were other US dsbm bands before Xasthur like I Shalt Become, Krohm and Veil. Xasthur just became the most popular

    • @absu132
      @absu132 Рік тому

      Because scott (malefic) was already doing black metal with ian robert ritual and mike pardi (Ritual from L.A ) before xasthur.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому

      @@akillen77 Krohm is a contemporary of Xasthur and Veil came afterwards. I Shalt Become however is generally considered the originator.

  • @Lucian3030
    @Lucian3030 Рік тому +25

    My favourite USBM band is Inquisition. Their last album is perfection to me.

    • @mariozd971
      @mariozd971 Рік тому +2

      I agree, Black Mass is real masterpiece !

    • @Sario_
      @Sario_ Рік тому

      They're from Colombia

    • @Lucian3030
      @Lucian3030 Рік тому +1

      @@Sario_ yes but the music was made in US. Even Dagon talks about it in an interview. Of course him experiencing stuff in Colombia influenced his music and who he is.

  • @kingnotail3838
    @kingnotail3838 8 місяців тому +2

    Don't forget, Von's Satanic Blood demo was an influence on Second-Wave Black Metal; people like Varg and Euronymous mentioned it at the time.

  • @slamfam7621
    @slamfam7621 Рік тому +33

    Can you make this a full on series? I.E do another video about UKBM, AUBM (Australian BM) etc etc? that'd be fucking awesome Edit: those were examples, I hope he covers many many other scenes.

    • @hatecraft6669
      @hatecraft6669 Рік тому +9

      and what about Greek (Hellenic) Black metal? ;) :) :)

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +8

      @@hatecraft6669 Ukraine, Polish, Hungarian, Canadian. Get to work Wyatt!

    • @joesmetalmancave
      @joesmetalmancave Рік тому +5

      Just posted a video on my channel about Ukrainian black metal

    • @eyeseayew189
      @eyeseayew189 Рік тому +4

      What about IBM, Iranian Black Metal.

    • @johnsalchichon8404
      @johnsalchichon8404 Рік тому +1

      CHBM (Chilean Black Metal)

  • @teddydog6229
    @teddydog6229 11 місяців тому

    Damn you are so dependable! I know you seem to have mixed feelings about them but I loved Abruptum and just filled a whole playlist with their/his(?) stuff. I can count on every new video you make turning me on to some great new artist I haven't heard before. I truly can't thank you enough.

  • @SeanS1995
    @SeanS1995 Рік тому +12

    I could watch your vids forever, man.

    • @Radio-Friendly-Unit
      @Radio-Friendly-Unit Рік тому +6

      Wyatt could legit make a video about like the history of hair dryers for 9 hours and I would absolutely love it

  • @DeadJDona
    @DeadJDona Рік тому +5

    really interesting, thanks! thanks 2 for links in description of video!

  • @PazuzuDarkVoid
    @PazuzuDarkVoid 9 місяців тому

    Damn man, I really enjoy your channel! While I already knew most of the stuff you talk about I got more insight on a lot of bands and also discovered a few new ones. I like that you're not just reading up these infos, but just talking freely. Keep up the good work bro \m/
    Obviously you got my subscription too ;)

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Рік тому +5

    You also forgot to list the band that influenced your two all time fav British bands( Anaal nathrakth and Dragged into Sunlight) "Hailing from Boston Mass, DECEMBER WOLVES". Listen to "completely dehumanized" or "blasterpiece theatre" its like the other bands but a few years before. Sounds like a black metal version of the berzerker.

  • @ArtisanFabrication
    @ArtisanFabrication Рік тому

    AWESOME video, looking forward to more!!

  • @probie2460
    @probie2460 Рік тому

    Great video. You earned a sub. Weakling and Leviathan still amaze after all these years.

    • @rahmatsumantri6577
      @rahmatsumantri6577 Рік тому

      What are your favorite songs by Leviathan?
      Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind

  • @joshifan29
    @joshifan29 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm obsessed with Typhus and Sothis. A bit later in the timeline... middle era by today's time actually. But really good stuff

  • @darnfrick3354
    @darnfrick3354 Рік тому +5

    I love that you got I Shalt Become in the background. That was always my favorite band, personally. Very eerie stuff. Also it's kinda useless when people keep holding up the first wave of BM as their standard when "black metal" back then just meant any metal with satanic themes like Venom

    • @followdanger890
      @followdanger890 Рік тому +2

      Wanderings is a perfect gloomy day album.

    • @darnfrick3354
      @darnfrick3354 Рік тому

      @@followdanger890 Definitely. Especially on a day when the sky is like grey white and there are no shadows outside

    • @Dungavenhooter-1700
      @Dungavenhooter-1700 4 місяці тому

      Especially when compared to "white metal" which is just heavy metal with Christian themes.

  • @brennuvargr4638
    @brennuvargr4638 Рік тому +3

    Great video, dude! Surprised Krieg and Nachtmystium weren't mentioned, though, as they were also very important in the USBM scene (for better or for worse :P).

  • @500KiloVolt
    @500KiloVolt Рік тому

    Awesome video, as always.

  • @vexxn2112
    @vexxn2112 Рік тому +1

    I hoped to hear something about Vampirska, love the sound so much

  • @wheelsofmercury
    @wheelsofmercury Рік тому

    Also, it would be cool for you to do a video on Canadian black metal! I know you like a lot of the Quebec black metal scene, but you could also talk about bands from other provinces in Canada as well.

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Рік тому +5

    My personal favourite atm is pyramids from Texas who were basically deafheaven before deafheaven, simply because they are doing like shoegaze meets black metal but they are doing both genres properly. They have a singer who used to be in a Shoegaze band and sound like blut aus nord jamming with My bloody valentine.

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому +1

      Yeah this. If you see the direction they were going stuff like Pyramids and Alcest is why I just found Deafheaven to be overrated, nothing more or less.

  • @timrichards2380
    @timrichards2380 Рік тому +1

    Fragments in the background, amazing track

  • @OmegaSwitch
    @OmegaSwitch Рік тому

    I also appreciate how you keep reminding us viewers to drink water (in the means of staying hydrated). It's like you care about us or something!

  • @vvinnedge
    @vvinnedge Рік тому +4

    Really enjoyed the video...what are your thoughts (if any) on Cobalt? Gin has to be in my top 5 favorite albums of any genre, unmatched intensity, I can hear the PTSD coming from the vocalist who happens to be an infantrymen / combat vet. Eater of Birds is a monster as well.

    • @mariozd971
      @mariozd971 Рік тому +1

      Really great band, especially these two albums-Eater of Birds and Gin! They should get more recognition. And Inquisition, especially the last album Black Mass is great, Judas Iscariot, Leviathan, Black Funeral are all awesome !

    • @vvinnedge
      @vvinnedge Рік тому +1

      @@mariozd971 OMG, can't believe I didn't think of Inquisition....another one of my favorites...love how unique and different all there albums are......from *Invoking the Majestic throne..* to *Black Mass*....Leviathan got some love in the video as they should....I'll have to check out the other bands you mentioned

  • @weirdpath5481
    @weirdpath5481 Рік тому +1

    Love these types of videos. Just going in depth about a certain topic.

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому +4

    Also gotta mention Chaos Moon, who feel like the inbetween of Lurker Of Chalice and Leviathan in terms of atmosphere and black metal.

  • @Sentient6ix
    @Sentient6ix Рік тому +5

    Leviathan and Xasthur are two of my favourite DSBM bands of all time

    • @rahmatsumantri6577
      @rahmatsumantri6577 Рік тому

      What are your favorite songs by Leviathan?
      Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind

  • @wheelsofmercury
    @wheelsofmercury Рік тому

    That was a great video, Wyatt! What are your thoughts on the band Lamp of Murmuur from Portland Oregon/Los Angeles California? Do you like them or do you think they are overrated?

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому +7

    88 comments already before writing lol,
    A G A L L O C H
    More namely Pale Folklore. Which yeah as Wyatt compared the Europas to the American equivalents. One thing I will say is what you described about Weaklings originality and Deafheavens fusions is that Agallach was pulling both of those ropes and did it a year with this record before Dead As Dreams.
    I always found Deafheaven just to be overratted tbh. That drug addict interlude was cool.

    • @draugsvoll01
      @draugsvoll01 Рік тому

      Dead as Dreams was recorded in 1998, before Pale Folklore. I know Agalloch was composing their stuff all the way back in 1996-97, but just sayin

  • @ryalwoods1087
    @ryalwoods1087 Рік тому +4

    thank you for this. I'm very early in my exploration of black metal so I'm speaking from a place of ignorance here, but I admit I've dismissed out of hand US black metal. I think I'll still focus on European bands for now, but I'll give stateside bands a go when I've got a better grasp on genres and themes.

    • @satanatas900
      @satanatas900 Рік тому

      Von first demo (Satanic Blood)
      Absu up to Tara
      Black Witchery
      Profanatica
      Demoncy
      Grand Belial's Key
      Inquisition up to Ominous Doctrines of...
      Void Meditation Cult
      Negative Plane
      Funereal Presence
      Ominous Resurrection
      That's all you need.

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому

    Oh, might as well share Necrite - Sic Transit Gloria Mvndi which gets slept on sadly, even by me, but I'll have to revisit it.

  • @cable9689
    @cable9689 Рік тому +1

    Hey man, can we ever get a full video of you singing/dancing to "Right Here In My Arms" like you did in the comfort jams video?

  • @k5elevencinc0
    @k5elevencinc0 Рік тому

    I didn't even know we were doing Black Metal til now. Thanks for putting me up on it! 🇺🇸

  • @johnbad1000
    @johnbad1000 Рік тому +14

    You should also do a video on the greek black metal scene. It has such a unique sound and yet it's so underrated.

    • @zachrussell7636
      @zachrussell7636 Рік тому +3

      Such an amazing scene!

    • @vexxn2112
      @vexxn2112 Рік тому +2

      Name of some bands?

    • @johnbad1000
      @johnbad1000 Рік тому +1

      @@vexxn2112 Rotting Christ, Necromantia and Varathron would be the "big 3". But there are tons of other bands, including the human serpent.

    • @hellgrinder2148
      @hellgrinder2148 Рік тому +1

      @@vexxn2112 rotting christ, necromantia, varathron, zemial, order of eibon, order of the eibon hand, archemoron, macabre omen, sorgelig, human serpent, morktul, isolert, winter internal

    • @zachrussell7636
      @zachrussell7636 Рік тому +1

      @@vexxn2112 Acrimonious, ThyDarkenedShade, Varathron, Necromantia, Celtefog, Kawir, Macabre Omen are all shining examples of excellent Hellenic bm bands.

  • @hatecraft6669
    @hatecraft6669 Рік тому

    hey cool video! btw what do you think of the "Blackhearts" Documentary ? from what I remember you haven't commented on it. It's more about the Norwegian scene of course.

  • @rothbardfreedom
    @rothbardfreedom Рік тому +14

    A video on Brazilian Black Metal would be cool

  • @skidgore8325
    @skidgore8325 Рік тому +1

    Great vid man, Hail Demoncy, Judas Iscariot, Summon, Blood Stained Dusk, Xasthur. I think Christ Inversion & Viking Crown are also worth mentioning for early US black metal. People can say what they want about Phil Anselmo but he is a diehard black metal fan, & he can write some truthly diabolical sounding riffs. "Hail Killjoy" 🤘🥃

  • @Sanguivore
    @Sanguivore Рік тому

    Absolutely dope Enbilulugugal shirt. Where'd you cop that one?

  • @patrickbertlein4626
    @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому +5

    Just remembered Minnenwerfer-Alpenpasse, one of the greatest USBM albums ever and easily top ten of the genre as a whole in the last decade!

  • @isolateddemon9438
    @isolateddemon9438 Рік тому

    Valuable info🤘🏻

  • @auellaitaela8035
    @auellaitaela8035 Рік тому +1

    You ain't wrong about Sunbather. Like it or not, it's a modern classic and one of the most influential black metal albums of our time that will marked as a massive influence on USBM in the coming decades. It's far from my favorite, but its influence is observable and undeniable.
    Glad you at least mentioned the Cascadian BM scene, even if in passing. As a PNW local, and who played in a Cascadian band for a bit back when it was all the rage in 2012, it's a point of pride that our little area of the world had our own distinct style. It unfortunately is basically dead since it was largely just local bands that did it that didn't get much exposure, and the surviving bands don't really play the style anymore, but for awhile it was great going to a different Cascadian BM show every month and seeing all these great local bands with our own scene that you wouldn't be able to see anywhere else.
    The style does live on however, in bands like Stellar Descent and Evergreen Refuge, who've evolved it into a more long-form style of music. That'd be cool to see you talk about them as while it's insanely niche, it's just as unique.

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому

      Stellar Descent is raw as fuck, even by black metal standards. Evergreen Refuge is more instrumental folk, some black metal influences but I think the genre hardly fits, definitely enjoy him/them was just listening to them while camping the other day.
      I don't know any actual black metal influenced by Sunbather, couldn't disagree more on that.
      It definitely was interesting to see how popular the genre, and especially Wolves, have gotten. Most of the bands are kind of boring though to be honest, same formula, same drumbeat, add some acoustic guitars, etc. But really if we are going to be talking about the genre, we have to mention Fauna, who coined the term.

  • @arthurporter131
    @arthurporter131 Рік тому +1

    Do you like power metal? I’ve been heavily getting into bands like Omen, Brocas Helm, Manilla Road, and Jag Panzer and would love to hear you talk about them and other USPM bands

  • @aquacamel
    @aquacamel Рік тому +2

    I'm pretty sure that if you took the Deftones back catalogue and edited out everything that wasn't Chino's loudest screams or the instrumental sections, you'd have Sunbather.

  • @evaldasd2907
    @evaldasd2907 Рік тому

    Ancestors-Carnis Vale-Fever Nest-Slavehouse-Bone Awl-Nachtlicht-Ancient Necromancy are some of my
    fave u.s.b.m bands

  • @SlyHikari03
    @SlyHikari03 Рік тому +1

    Weakling is pretty nice.
    Sad they only stayed for 2000.
    Ps. Running wild is such a badass power metal band, you need to make a vid on them due to how many times you mention them on the channel.

  • @felixrr7381
    @felixrr7381 Рік тому +7

    Minenwerfer

  • @kellymckay1750
    @kellymckay1750 Рік тому +2

    You might check out a USBM band (circa late 90s/ early 2000's) from my hometown Portland ,Oregon. Thy Infernal.

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому +1

      Nihilist from In Memorium was the vocalist at one point.

    • @kellymckay1750
      @kellymckay1750 Рік тому

      @@patrickbertlein4626 they were a great band! I first saw them open for Immolation. I wish I still had my Warlords of Hell shirt!

  • @calebthompson6960
    @calebthompson6960 Рік тому

    In response to your comment that you can make a video about what you thing “trve black metal” means, I’d absolute love to see you do a video on that.

  • @heavymetalmusicofdestructi3430

    would also include inquisition wolves the throne room hulder sinsaenum panopticon acheron as well

  • @kyleway8513
    @kyleway8513 Рік тому +4

    Including Sunbather is a pretty big dick move. Nothing had ever sounded like that album and it created a wave of albums trying the capture that same feeling of oppressive, choking warmth. I genuinely think that album is one of the most emotionally intense ones Ive ever heard and its to the detriment of the genre that gatekeepers constantly want to hold it and that band apart from it for the sake of posturing.

  • @nathanjudy7705
    @nathanjudy7705 Рік тому +1

    Austin Lun is a true gem of a person and makes such interesting blends of American Folk and BM. I like that he dropped the whole 'evil for evil's sake' for more political and personal ideas. Kentucky is one of my favorite BM albums, its got amazing riffs, lays out great history with the lyrics and I grew up with my dad listening to Folk and Bluegrass all the time so that aspect feels comforting and nostalgic. The pacing is great, letting you rest a bit.
    Also I've literally never heard of Profanatica, never shown up in related artist or come up in convos, but I definitely gotta check them out. Sounds fucking sick.

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому

      Literally hundreds of bands are just about nature, history, or if it is darkness, its philosophical more than anything (never paid attention to Emperor?). People who say stuff like you just come off like you are relatively ignorant of the larger scene. Ulver, Arcturus, shit even Burzum has nothing to do with anything actual evil, just fantasy lore at most.
      And his stuff is alright, talented for sure but the best thing he did was the second part of Roads to North.

    • @starvationpool9982
      @starvationpool9982 Рік тому

      @@patrickbertlein4626 same with Drudkh or hell, as much as I don’t like their music beyond their first record, Wolves in the Throne Room. There are so many bands new and old who have done the “folk BM” sound. From Drudkh, to Obsequiae, to Agalloch, to I’d go as far as to even say Ruins of Beverast. There is a hell of a lot of it out there that are arguably BETTER than Panopticon. Just my opinion, Drudkh and Agalloch are the best folk BM I’ve ever heard.

  • @asuka376
    @asuka376 Рік тому +4

    Isn't Sunbather blackgaze?
    i'm not a purist btw
    (just askin')

  • @oddthemute6172
    @oddthemute6172 9 місяців тому

    Deafheaven's Sunbather is a direct response to Weakling's Dead as Dreams. Weakling walked so Deafheaven could run.

  • @tommysheehan2136
    @tommysheehan2136 Рік тому +3

    You should do a video all on DSBM

  • @Jardinserpent
    @Jardinserpent Рік тому

    Cool video. Absu started out before Aura Noir existed tho.

  • @cjcoronado
    @cjcoronado Рік тому +1

    Mo’ynoq from Raleigh, NC is easily my favorite USBM band. Hell favorite black metal band overall. The whole North Carolina extreme music scene has a ton of gems

    • @diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645
      @diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4645 Рік тому

      Interesting 🤔

    • @Bruh-ob9mi
      @Bruh-ob9mi 11 місяців тому

      They ain’t black metal, but are you familiar with the melodeath band, Æther Realm? They’re a killer little band from NC.

  • @h2eh1s-
    @h2eh1s- Рік тому

    Question: is there any truth that Bam Magera from Jackass brought extreme metal ( the Scandinavian bands in particular) to a much wider audience here in the states.

  • @lorenzomagni732
    @lorenzomagni732 7 місяців тому

    where did you get that shirt? I played in several Enbilulugugal albums and it's quite rare to see a Tshirt out there

  • @friedux2065
    @friedux2065 Рік тому +4

    Surprised you didnt mention Krallice, arguably the most listened to USBM band.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +1

      The spiritual successor to Weakling, but I doubt that they're the most listened to.

    • @user-mz9ig5id3o
      @user-mz9ig5id3o Рік тому

      The most listened atm must be Minenwerfer

    • @palbo4
      @palbo4 Рік тому +1

      Right? They're such a mind blowing band. Krallice, Jute Gyte, and Yellow Eyes are the best USBM bands, I think

    • @jklcjr45
      @jklcjr45 Рік тому

      I was waiting for a Krallice mention too, but I disagree that they're the most listened-to USBM band. I think they're often overlooked in the USBM landscape IMO, which is surprising considering their consistent contributions to it going back to the late 2000s. Years Past Matter is an incredible album

  • @xeritinrx3402
    @xeritinrx3402 Рік тому

    Ayo where’d you get that shirt? I bought a enbilulugugal shirt a while back but it never came 😭

  • @arthurcastro6494
    @arthurcastro6494 Рік тому

    Explaining ancient records next ?

  • @ShadowSamba
    @ShadowSamba Рік тому +1

    My favorite newer USBM bands are Mare Cognitum, Stormkeep and Antichrist Siege Machine

  • @akillen77
    @akillen77 Рік тому +2

    The first demo by Open Grave is good early USBM

  • @hellionrebellionrocknrolla744

    Love the Enbilulugugal shirt!

  • @spiralofeternity
    @spiralofeternity Рік тому +4

    Also they maybe not be the very first, but one of the first and one of the most influential is definitely Grand Belial's Key. Formed in '92 and put out the goaty demo the same year

  • @darnfrick3354
    @darnfrick3354 Рік тому +1

    Unironically I love Sunbather. I think Post Black is a great spinoff genre. It's less juvenile and more thoughtful

  • @RockinRickyFox50
    @RockinRickyFox50 Рік тому +1

    Dude you’re like the American fenriz 🤘

  • @isangfortheswans1578
    @isangfortheswans1578 Рік тому

    Sunbather is my favorite metal album and my 3rd favorite album ever its funny to see how almost 10 years later it breaks black metal fans apart

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Рік тому

      Not really. We don't see people like you as part of this scene. Most kvlt kids would say the same thing about me though I listen to a ton of post rock and shoegaze oriented stuff. I don't care if you like it, not my problem, just don't think you know what you're talking about.

  • @orkamist3999
    @orkamist3999 Рік тому +2

    I would also like to mention doomstone from vaginia from some interviews with king fowley he says the reason for making the project was to make fun of the black metal scene at the time. their debut "Those Whom Satan Hath Joined" from 1994 has more of a mixture of venom,mercyful fate,and black Sabbath with modern black metal vocals basically stating that it was a fuck off to the Nordic black metal that was going on at the time by going back to the roots

    • @Fo-Flats
      @Fo-Flats Рік тому +2

      That Doomstone 7 inch & first full length is CLASSIC 🤘

    • @orkamist3999
      @orkamist3999 Рік тому +1

      @@Fo-Flats fr man for a joke band it's really good

    • @wewuzwolves4428
      @wewuzwolves4428 9 місяців тому +1

      I saw those guys in DC in '93 at the Asylum. They may have been making fun of BM, but they were better than a lot of more serious bands.

  • @RichardWolfe79
    @RichardWolfe79 Рік тому

    Blood Stained Dusk, Crimson Moon, Worsen, and Sinira are a few I can think of.

  • @weeblesjeeblez
    @weeblesjeeblez Рік тому

    Talking about USBM but doesn’t even bring up I Shalt Become, but does play some of their songs in the background. What’s up with that? I don’t understand.

  • @the_glove
    @the_glove Рік тому

    Would be interested in hearing your take on “Melissa” s/t

  • @sapling1199
    @sapling1199 Рік тому

    thank you

  • @mikeythemutt8460
    @mikeythemutt8460 Рік тому +9

    Xasthur was actually one of the first black metal bands I listened to. Telepathic With The Deceased is still damn good. Do you listen to any Stoner/Doom metal? Just curious.

    • @78deathface
      @78deathface Рік тому +4

      Xasthur is amazing

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +1

      I enjoy it when black metal and sludge are paired together like Cobalt and Withered.

    • @cookiesontoast9981
      @cookiesontoast9981 Рік тому +1

      Same! Xasthur Nocturnal Poisoning was the 6th black metal album I ever heard.
      Still adore it today, love Funeral of Being and Telepathic too.
      And I haven't heard much regular Doom metal but I have heard a lot of Funeral Doom.
      My first 10 BM albums that got me into my favourite ever genre of music:
      1: Burzum - Burzum
      2: Burzum - Det Som Engang Var
      3: Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
      5: Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
      6: Xasthur - Nocturnal Poisoning
      7: Peste Noire - La Sanie des siècles - Panégyrique de la dégénérescence
      8: Thyabhorrent - Death Rides At Dawn
      9: Burzum - Filosofem
      10: Behemoth - Sventevith (Storming Near the Baltic)
      Heard hundreds more since, fukin love black metal.

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому

      @@spergerkang5291 Cobalt was another big name I was thinking was gonna be shown.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому

      @@NeroAngelo616 Wyatt basically did a general overview. If you keep adding bands you're postponing the video. Besides, us ankle biters in the comments section will mention the bands left out.

  • @heathens_swill
    @heathens_swill Рік тому +1

    One thing I find strange about Weakling is their guitarist. Prior to joining Weakling he played in an instrumental band that practiced very intricate mathrock combined with... heavy metal of all things. Extremely complex technical jackery. I really recommend the band and album. The Fucking Champs: "lll."

  • @lewisb85
    @lewisb85 Рік тому +2

    Personally I think one of the most underappreciated people in the USBM scene is Mike Apocalypse from being a co founder of gravehill to his other bands The infamous Gehenna (black metal meets hardcore) and Sangraal (blackened grindcore), been round the scene a long time and still producing great stuff.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому

      Funnily enough I was just recommended Sangraal, but the Sangraal out of PA, not California. Project of Daniel Martin if Vrolok, another highly underappreciated band.

    • @eyeseayew189
      @eyeseayew189 Рік тому

      Gehenna is really good. Never knew where they're from.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому +1

      @@eyeseayew189 there are many different Gehennas. the most recent one I listened to was Swedish but the OP os speaking of the one from California.

    • @lewisb85
      @lewisb85 Рік тому

      @@spergerkang5291 Yes Gehenna (cali) aka the infamous gehenna, I do like how they parodied yet out cooled "the true" mayhem, whilst also throwing a mobb deep reference in.

    • @phinehasr
      @phinehasr Рік тому +1

      Mike Cheese is the shit. The Infamous Gehenna rules.

  • @Meidoyasha
    @Meidoyasha Рік тому +4

    Weakling is fucking deadly. Stands tall and high with any European Black metal album.

  • @hmpz36911
    @hmpz36911 Рік тому

    I would argue that Possessed's debut is a perfect example of an album that sits in a few different sub-genres, including black metal.

  • @thegreysgotme
    @thegreysgotme Рік тому +1

    Brooooo… that enbilulugugal shirt thoooooo 🔥🔥👍 damn

    • @notwasnot
      @notwasnot Рік тому +1

      Dustin would be proud . r.i.p. old friend

    • @thegreysgotme
      @thegreysgotme Рік тому

      @@notwasnot big RIP, Lives on through the amazing music we all enjoy 🤘

  • @spellman007
    @spellman007 Рік тому

    i totally agree about weakling. i remember when it came out.

  • @cosmicmoose6663
    @cosmicmoose6663 Рік тому +5

    Naas Alcameth leads the USBM scene in quality black metal. Canada has some good shit too

  • @rubenmartinez6541
    @rubenmartinez6541 Рік тому +1

    yea. you forgot the other early bands like masochist, summon, lucifers hammer, adn wind of the black mountains. very vital to the early 2nd wave of usbm. if you havent heard them than i advise to check them out.

    • @spergerkang5291
      @spergerkang5291 Рік тому

      Goatlord, Sathanas/Bathym, Yamataru, Averse Sefira, Black Mass of Absu, Gonkulator, December Wolves, Krohm, Vrolok, Demoncy, Obeisance, Crucifier, Order from Chaos/Angelcorpse. Still a decent vidya; can't name em' all.

  • @reeree488
    @reeree488 Рік тому

    PLEASE do more obscure European bands like defeated sanity

  • @eulogioalbertorobles4133
    @eulogioalbertorobles4133 Рік тому +1

    I wish I had the time to do a something similar with black metal from my country (Chile), but the history of the genre here is even a bit more obscure lmao

  • @GreatBeardofWisdom
    @GreatBeardofWisdom Рік тому

    What's the track playing behind the Deafheaven section? Sounds familiar but I'm struggling to put my finger on it.

    • @wyattxhim
      @wyattxhim  Рік тому

      “Background music”

    • @GreatBeardofWisdom
      @GreatBeardofWisdom Рік тому

      @@wyattxhim Should have checked that first really, shouldn't I? I was cooking at the time and didn't think about it.

  • @xo.toxiin
    @xo.toxiin Рік тому +12

    What I love most about USBM is how much variety you get from it. The US is massive and USBM bands on the east coast sound worlds apart from bands on the west coast. Uada, Akhlys, Mäleficentt, Incursus, and of course Leviathan are all USBM bands but their sounds aren’t carbon copies of each other. Of course the baseline criteria for Black Metal is there but it’s clear that they aren’t trying to mimic the Norwegian sound even though they’re obviously inspired by it.
    Like you mentioned USBM is a response to the Norwegian sound and usually isn’t an attempt to mimic it. It’s unfortunate how dismissive “tRuE kUlT” BM fans can be towards USBM. There’s so much talent within the genre.

  • @gorenoisebulldozer140
    @gorenoisebulldozer140 Рік тому +2

    Doom Metal iceberg? Also check out Slund sense you like Knelt Rote.

  • @NeroAngelo616
    @NeroAngelo616 Рік тому

    The first AEvangelist album is *chef's kiss.