@@greengables5866 Spriggans in Elder Scrolls are mysterious beings. Nobody knows what exactly they are. They aren't necessarily fairies, especially considering fairies aren't really present in the series. Besides, they still look like sentient trees, whatever they are
@@CaptPatrick01 yeah not a good idea to eat mushrooms after watching a war movie that involves the soldiers succumbing to ptsd............ let me just say, them trees were whispering
I love that out of all races and factions to face the Oblivion Crisis itwas the not the literal empires but a bunch a small province of lizards who actually caught Mehrunes Dagon's forces off guard
At the annual Histmoot Argonian 1: it's been going for hours Argonian 2: they must have decided something by now Hist: decided? no, we have just finished saying "good morning" Argonian 1: but it's nighttime already!
@@Anaverageguy41 nope that was Morrowind, Vivec managed to negotiate with Tiber Septim for greater autonomy for Morrowind as an imperial provence in exchange for the Numidium
rejvaik i'm fairly certain he did conquer all of black marsh. could be wrong as its been awhile since I've brushed up on this part of the lore but I distinctly remember learning somewhere that even Tiber him self wasn't able to take all of black marsh. he took the out skirts by force but not the inner heartland.
The Black Marsh would be cool and all, but if it was to stay true to the lore, playing as a non-argonian would be nearly impossible and playing as an argonian would be unbalanced.
@@connordarvall8482 It wouldn't be impossible. Only parts of the Black Marsh is dangerous to non-Argonians, and even they can be traversed if you gear up. That's how the Dunmer are always able to get slaves from there. I imagine parts of Argonia would be like a cross between Aldruhn from Morrowind and the radiation storms from Fallout 4. You see gas everywhere that gives you debuffs (unless you're an Argonian) and you need to wear special armor to protect yourself. I actually think that this would be an interesting feature to include.
@@connordarvall8482 in addition to the other comments on this, Elder Scrolls has no issue downplaying lore for games. A dragonborn is supposed to be vaporize a foe with a whisper and break continents with the Thuum. I believe (because I feel this way too) there's so much mystery that can be added from having a game in that location. Same goes for the Summerset isles but I'd rather see Blackmarsh.
You drink a Hist tree sap to exterminate Goblins in the village but it turns out you had had been killing innocent people. One of the best quests I had been playing in Elder Scrolls games.
They are the most normal people, the understand the connection between things. Also they are just weird by a first glimpse, they are like tao both wise and so kind.
So if the argonians basically transfer knowledge to the host apon death technically couldn’t the dragon born (if argonian) transfer the knowledge and understanding of the thuum to the hist therefore allowing the hist to give that ability to future argonians?
Argonia doesn't really make sense as a game location, since other races literally can't survive there. Well except for that Decemus guy, but I believe he's fiction within fiction.
parandomal and that exact logic is why bethesda Will most likely ignore blackmarsh till last. tes is a world of magic and fantasy. they can make a game in black marsh some how. like maybe the hist trees using their power over the land calmed it's wild life or something as they knew a chosen one would come to their land to save it from a greater threat or something dumb like that. and that explanation was just off the top of my head,
Somewhere in a developer meeting: "And Bob, can you please write the histories of Black Marsh?" Bob, taking notes: "Write the hist trees of Black Marsh."
I’m a little bummed that you used Skyrim footage for this given that ESO has Hist and Black Marsh stuff in it, but I understand why you had to do it for cinematic purposes.
One thing I've always wondered is HOW these ancient wars sank continents. Daedric interference? "Super weapons" in the same vein as Numidium? Powerful magics that have been lost to time? I doubt there is more lore on this but if so I would love to know!
Perfect question. As both an Argonian masterrace fanboy and assassin - type build player (Shadowscale being the top backstory since Morrowind) I'm actually embarassed I never wondered about that topic...
@@witoldendrju2458 Here's another: Who gets the souls of soultrapped argonians? Or daedra worshippers? And if daedra worshippers go to the daedra, how did the Hist ever find out about the Oblivion Crisis before it happened? Only people who knew prehand either were not argonians, or members of the Dagon cult.
@@FBI-ju5no Either the Argonians' connection to the Hist is stronger, than the force sending spent souls to the Soul Cairn, or they just share the fate of other mortals in this situation. Hm, are there any Argonian souls in the Cairn we visit in Dawnguard? I can't recall. About the Oblivion Crisis: if one Argonian in their lifetime find out about a Mehrunes Dagon cult, they think it's just some idiots worshipping a Daedra. If the Hist gathers info from thousands Argonians and a very unusually large number of them have some clues about what's to happen, the Hist knows something bad and big is coming.
@@parandomal Oh, that's actually hell of a point. Damn... The Shadowscales make sooo much more sense now in hindsight. The Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim should be dominated by Argonians (they are a numerous immigrant race and naturally gifted towards assassination, which seems to be better payed, than dock labour), while if You join as one, it makes... Three (including the hermit on the coast). Just like there are NO Khajiit NPCs in either the DB nor Thieves' Guild :D Stereotypes lie... Same with the Companions: a Dunmer, but no Orcs or Redguards? Nonsense. Both these races are born mercenaries and glory hounds. Nevermind. After all, maybe the Shadowscales keep to their organisation in Black Marsh and only the lesser - gifted leftovers join Tamriel's Dark Brotherhood, like the Morag Tong. Peace to y'all, it's 2 AM in my timezone :D
Hamza Feroz I'm sorry what was that Mr dunmer? I couldn't hear you over red mountains eruptions. so glad we don't have those down here in our swamps. don't ever have to worry about our whole race getting wiped out like a bunch of wussys. (yes I know I'm over exaggerating by saying the whole race)
Hamza Feroz lol that's alright just means me being the stormcloak that I am can now trash talk you for being an imperial instead of a dunmer. lmao (not actually trying to fight btw just joking around and having fun. though I do play argonians and stormcloaks)
If I recall correctly the quests in ESO imply that the Hist can commune with other species and not just Argonians. The Mnemic egg allows you to enter a Hist dream. It's just that the Argonians are their preferred hands in the world of Tamriel. It is unclear what effect Hist sap would have on other species although some have likely tried given its availability. I suspect hallucinations are the most likely result in non Argonians. However, since the Hist have a connection with the sap I think the Hist could change any species who drank the sap physically and also be commune with them if it was in the best interest of the Hist. Hallucinations are likely the most common result as the Hist don't have a working relationship with non Argonians but I'm positive that if it were important enough to the Hist that they would use another species to commune with in order to complete the task at hand. The Hist would likely give a boon to that creature to increase that creatures chance of completing the task. Since the Hist are primarily located in Black Marsh such boon would likely alter the drinker physically to better adapt to that location but not necessarily if that task was one that needed completing outside of Black Marsh. My thinking is that the Argonians are the hands or tools that the Hist use to further their will in the waking world and to protect the Hist Trees although anyone could become a tool of the Hist if the Hist had a need and use for them.
Man. Am I the only one that wants an Elder Scroll VI: Blackmarsh now? The new found militancy of the Argonian's seems like a great catalyst for a shit ton of cool stories to tell.
I think they are actually a kind of fungus. It perfectly fits what we know about fungi in our world. More over is the theory possed by Terrance McKenna.
Honestly, I feel like Argonia would have made a better location for TES6 than Hammerfall and/or High Rock. The mist parts for the first time in ages, and explorers from factions throughout the continent and perhaps beyond rush to the interior of the Black Marsh, some for fame and fortune, others to explore and reveal the many mysteries of the swamp. Chief among them of why has the Marsh opened? It just sounds like a really good hook.
Hey, does anyone know what the song is called in the beginning of the videos that Fudgemuppet use to talk about gods? Like the Auriel vs. Akatosh one? If you know please tell me, I've been looking for it for months...
Fantastic video guys. Can you make a video explaining the whole Argonian religion? I've always loved playing as an Argonian, but I have no idea as to where their religions goes beyond the Hist.
Love the vids! And it's a little sad that the 'worth it' videos had to end, I loved the lore behind them, but I would love to see some akaviri vids in the future, well I don't know if u have much to work with but I still think that it would be pretty cool 😃
My absolute favourite part of elder scrolls lores is shit like the Hists and Black marsh. This right here is fantasy at its best. It's so alien and unthinkable and just damn weird and unique. High fantasy is a great genre that can explore the most insane ideas and create entirely new world's, yet it's saturated with the same shit over snd over. The Hists isn't quite like anything I've seen before, even if some elements are present in other fantasy lore Just trying to imagine black marsh or the society of the Hists in the creation theories, in modern day tamriel and what it is they know or how they know thing That's the good shit right there. Even when it comes to Elven races, the Elder Scrolls is quite original and unique in its lore, and that's really why I love this series so much
When he said,"Dank bogs," I hoped he was going to say,"Dank memes," for some reason. Instead, my brain heard dank b0ngs and I had to rewind 10 seconds 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂
I really think Beth should do more community sourced lore as they used to in Daggerfall. Now more than ever there are amazing content creators who could really help out with sorting out such task and help to bring some coherence to the reckoned convoluted, disjointed mess of beautiful lore this universe has .
The orc blood price of which the orc must have the pain and damage inflicted upon them the same as the victim for which had been hurt or done wrong in some way
9:08 you say "Argonians hatch from eggs and rely on hatching pools that form inside nests of raised Hist roots. They can, and normally do, but - in extreme situations that threaten extinction - Argonians can suddenly be made by the Hist to carry their young and give birth as humans do. 9:20 "An Argonian hatched without the influence of a Hist will not survive" Wrong, their survival is relatively common. They are named Lukiul (Loo-ke'ool). You double back on this statement shortly after. 9:25 "Once born, Argonian hatchlings drink the Hist's sap, and continue to do so throughout their infancy." No, that happens much later, typically once or twice as part of rituals. Not, for example, dozens of times as you're implying. That, and ingestion of Hist sap, even to an Argonian, usually leads to hallucinations and other virile effects. Only through ritualistic means may ingestion lead to visions, things of a clearer nature, empowerment and the like. That, and one would simply have to be in the right place, at the right time, for consuming Hist sap to aid in fulfilling a task or gathering knowledge - both of which are fairly rare occurrences. 10:09 "The sap that flows from a Hist tree contains concentrated Magicka." Yet vampires and necromancers do not prioritize or refrain from taking advantage of Argonians. They, of all individuals, would be exposed to a tangible form of Magicka if it existed. So there has to be a different explanation for how Argonians can handle cold weather. 11:28 "Argonians drink Hist sap throughout their lives." No they don't. We hallucinate and feel ill like everyone else if we just chug it like Skooma. 11:33 "It's said that female Argonian breasts contain Hist sap." It's neither confirmed nor denied, but it might tie in to what I said about 9:08.
You know what makes the Hist beating Mehrunes even funnier. PART OF MEHRUNES SPHERE IS LITERALLY A STAPLE OF ARGONIAN TEACHING. They were in his fucking ballpark, and he was the one who got turned into a benchwarmer
Two Imperial Guards at camp "Whats that sound?" "It's the trees...You remember the Black Marsh, on the Borders of Valenwood? Folk used to say there was something in the water thay made the trees grow tall...and come alive! Trees that could whisper...talk to each other...even move!"
“In order to thrive in this tropical environment we will need to use the means at hand. This is gonna involve the network. It’s gonna include dank bogs.”
I think I just figured out how the Hist saw the Oblivion crisis coming. I don't know the timeline, if Black Marsh was hit before or after Kvatch, but the Argonian sacrifice in the shrine cave was, presumably, from Argonia and thus would have a link with the Hist. I could be entirely wrong, though.
old comment your 'probably' wrong the hist seems to be almost omniscient or if maybe they know some hidden magic from a previous kalpa and used that I dont know
if there was a black marsh game 9 races would die every minute and argonians would have to be buffed up to lore standards or they would die too because the 50% disease resistance and no poison resistance from skyrim aint cutting it
Or if you look closer the ruling argonian clan may have just pulled a thalmor and claimed they did that. We know from the infernal city books that no argonian actually has a memory of it, but the ruthless clan that seized power said that it happened, and since this clan control managed to seize control of the access to the just they claimed that they were the ones who managed to do the ritual to slow it to happen. However since this clan forbids people from connecting to the hist no one can confirm whether they are lying or not. And given how ruthlessly they treat other argonians, they probably are lying.
Don’t know why but I can only picture the daedra fleeing the Argonians with the “run away” audio from Monty python holy grail where the fled from the rabbit.
Spriggans would be more closely related to Hircine, as Spriggans typically hunt/kill hunters. Meanwhile Argonians have little to nothing to say about Spriggans, and see no kindred spirit in them whatsoever. That is to say, the Hist doesn't influence Spriggans to spare its Argonian children, let alone help them.
Brill video guys, however have you ever considered using ESO for your videos, the location are visually amazing. Murkmire would have really added to ethos of this video
I always wondered why the hist allowed, and you could even say encouraged argonian enslavement by the dunmer. But now I think about it, what better way could you spy on a potential threat than by having a sleeper agent in every household. But my then also.. what benefit did the hist see in allowing black marsh to join the empire 🤔 and what was gained from them seceding from it.
old comment but they probably wanted peace because they didnt want argonia to be destroyed the argonians with the hist make fearce fighters so a war wouldve lasted a long time which could potentially destroy parts of the swamp besides the empire littery could not get out of the north eastern corner the only way they would be able to is by burning the trees and plants and I'd imagine the hist and argonians wouldnt want that
You hear of those Argonians from Black Marsh? They have talking trees. Talking. Trees.
They've got curved penises
+@@rejvaik00 Curved penises. Curved. Penises.
Vietnam vets: *flashbacks intensify*
Good one 🤣🤣🤣❤❤❤
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Everyone: invades
Hist: WHAT ARE YA DOIN IN MA SWAMP
LMAOOOOO omg. 😂😂😂😂😂
beautiful
"Sentient trees are ridiculous!" You say as you fight a Spriggan.
Not to say I don't like your joke, but spriggans are fairies, not trees.
@@greengables5866 Spriggans in Elder Scrolls are mysterious beings. Nobody knows what exactly they are. They aren't necessarily fairies, especially considering fairies aren't really present in the series. Besides, they still look like sentient trees, whatever they are
first time i found a spriggan "this walking tree should be easy" gets it to maybe 1/4 health "it HEALED?" and then i died
Billy Martin 11/10 underestimated and were annihilated by Spriggans on first encounter
I have talked with someone who tolded that the Spriggans are reanimating, or something alike. I think someone at Frostmoth told this
"They didn't fight in the war and remained impartial bystanders."
Much like most trees I'm familiar with.
I am offended as someone who was made from a tree.
I don't know man,those Vietnamese trees are fucking nightmares to face in a war from what I've heard.
Everybody's gangsta until the trees start speaking Vietnamese.
@@CaptPatrick01 yeah not a good idea to eat mushrooms after watching a war movie that involves the soldiers succumbing to ptsd............ let me just say, them trees were whispering
Fucking trees always sittin on the fence smh.
Also God, I can't get over the Argonions during the Oblivion Crisis.
Daedra: We're invading.
Argonions: No. We're invading.
Reverse-invasion
An-xileel: what a coincidence!
I love that out of all races and factions to face the Oblivion Crisis itwas the not the literal empires but a bunch a small province of lizards who actually caught Mehrunes Dagon's forces off guard
Wrong prince
Mehrunes dagon buddy
@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 yeah, wrong prince. It was the Fresh Prince.
But one question still remains: Is being a hist WORTH IT?
MrAranton Hist Squad where you at?
make one elder scrolls game where you play as a hist and you control an argonian and whenever you die you have to make another argonian
Ask Harold from Fallout 3.
Bahahahhaha!
the next to this would be "why the hist are idiots"
Fudge Muppet: Trees can't walk or move.
Walking trees of valenwood: Are we a joke to you?
At the annual Histmoot
Argonian 1: it's been going for hours
Argonian 2: they must have decided something by now
Hist: decided? no, we have just finished saying "good morning"
Argonian 1: but it's nighttime already!
*slowly claps*
Thank you for the Hist-ory lesson, Drew.
Mese Ktet That was a gud pun
Off to the cloud district you go
@@alphacrusaders6535 its literally why the tree is named Hist, it's a joke on the word history (hist-tree)
just like Elsweyr is elswhere
First thing: Argonian Dragonborn dies, Hiss gains 11 dragonsouls.
Second thing: *Mixes Hiss sap with skooma*
I loved playing Skyrim as an Argonian, the whole dragon - lizard vibe.
Hist not *hIsS*
Imperials, Daedra and Elves invade Black Marsh
Hist:"*laughs collectively in tree language*"
Nah Tiber Septim DID in fact conquer all of Tamriel including Black Marsh after acquiring the Numidium
Wait what
@@rejvaik00 I thought he diplo-annexed it?
@@Anaverageguy41 nope that was Morrowind, Vivec managed to negotiate with Tiber Septim for greater autonomy for Morrowind as an imperial provence in exchange for the Numidium
rejvaik i'm fairly certain he did conquer all of black marsh. could be wrong as its been awhile since I've brushed up on this part of the lore but I distinctly remember learning somewhere that even Tiber him self wasn't able to take all of black marsh. he took the out skirts by force but not the inner heartland.
Of all the places on Nirn, the Marsh is the most wanted location for a full ES game.
The Black Marsh would be cool and all, but if it was to stay true to the lore, playing as a non-argonian would be nearly impossible and playing as an argonian would be unbalanced.
@@connordarvall8482 It wouldn't be impossible. Only parts of the Black Marsh is dangerous to non-Argonians, and even they can be traversed if you gear up. That's how the Dunmer are always able to get slaves from there. I imagine parts of Argonia would be like a cross between Aldruhn from Morrowind and the radiation storms from Fallout 4. You see gas everywhere that gives you debuffs (unless you're an Argonian) and you need to wear special armor to protect yourself. I actually think that this would be an interesting feature to include.
@@connordarvall8482 in addition to the other comments on this, Elder Scrolls has no issue downplaying lore for games. A dragonborn is supposed to be vaporize a foe with a whisper and break continents with the Thuum.
I believe (because I feel this way too) there's so much mystery that can be added from having a game in that location. Same goes for the Summerset isles but I'd rather see Blackmarsh.
Dragons: we are timeless, giant lizards. We are going to be the coolest and most mysterious creatures on Nirn!
The Hist: Hold our sap
Maiq the Liar(Non suspicious whistling)
Honestly the lizard folks are one of the most interesting race tamerial has to offer
I just wish their in game models wore armor better.
BASED
So Black Marsh is basically Brave New World but it’s ruled by cosmic trees.
In a nutshell yeah
Except the Hist seems genuinely benevolent, at least on a species wide level.
AYYY LMAO
Daedra invade Tamriel
Hist: reverse uno
This is why I want to see Elder Scrolls Black Marsh before I'm ninety.
Its a setting full of mystery and alien splendor.
Play ESO this the hist is a thing and black marsh is in there you'll love it
You drink a Hist tree sap to exterminate Goblins in the village but it turns out you had had been killing innocent people. One of the best quests I had been playing in Elder Scrolls games.
It was one of the most grisly quests.
What the name of this quest?
@metalfaust19 Oblivion
@@faro_inc it's with the Blackwood company, infiltration.
A favorite of mine too! So relevant since I've just been replaying oblivion :')
Little known fact, the Hist Trees are responsible for setting the bedtime of all Argonians of Blackmarsh. Time for bed guys
O.o i'd want to be an argonian at least my sleep schedule would be normal.
Good maybe I won’t stay up all night playing Skyrim
I don’t need sleep
@@Dr.RatioSnail big relate
Just imagining little baby argonians getting tucked in by their tree grandmothers.
The Argonians are so cool and weird I love them :3
They are the most normal people, the understand the connection between things.
Also they are just weird by a first glimpse, they are like tao both wise and so kind.
Argonians are my favorite race in The Elder Scrolls. They're so unique and their racial bonuses are very cool.
So if the argonians basically transfer knowledge to the host apon death technically couldn’t the dragon born (if argonian) transfer the knowledge and understanding of the thuum to the hist therefore allowing the hist to give that ability to future argonians?
after the argonian dragonborn dies all argonians born after become dragonborn because the hist makes there souls to be similar to the dragonborn
@@myfeetcold Oh crap
Sadly since argonians get their souls from the hist I believe they would be excluded from having a dragon soul
Sadly since argonians get their souls from the hist I believe they would be excluded from having a dragon soul
@@zachgriffaw1472 doesn’t mean the knowledge of the words wouldn’t be transferred though just means they wouldn’t be able to absorb dragon souls
Your danm right I was waiting. Every 24 hours on the spot. Thanks for the vids you wonderful Muppets!
It's you, the Divine Crusader, slayer of Mer your stories are legend and I praise you forever sir
@@ogcuddles3547 You do me honor.
I can't be the only one who wants a game in black marsh. knowing my luck us argonian mains Will have to wait for our province last.
Argonia doesn't really make sense as a game location, since other races literally can't survive there. Well except for that Decemus guy, but I believe he's fiction within fiction.
parandomal and that exact logic is why bethesda Will most likely ignore blackmarsh till last. tes is a world of magic and fantasy. they can make a game in black marsh some how.
like maybe the hist trees using their power over the land calmed it's wild life or something as they knew a chosen one would come to their land to save it from a greater threat or something dumb like that. and that explanation was just off the top of my head,
Somewhere in a developer meeting: "And Bob, can you please write the histories of Black Marsh?" Bob, taking notes: "Write the hist trees of Black Marsh."
I’m a little bummed that you used Skyrim footage for this given that ESO has Hist and Black Marsh stuff in it, but I understand why you had to do it for cinematic purposes.
I don't understand, why fudget use eso?
@@faro_inc He can't pan the camera in as many angles in ESO as it doesn't let you mod it.
@@connordarvall8482 oh that's true. It's a pity cause eso is beautiful.
Chose*. He chose to do it. He didn't *have to*.
*fudgemuppet does a hist video
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Sleeping Tree Camp: Aw shit here we go again
Hist trees in ESO and Oblivion: Am I a joke to you?
Tamriel at the Oblivion Crisis;
Everyone: No army can stop the daedra invaders!
Argonians: Hold our sap for a moment.
One thing I've always wondered is HOW these ancient wars sank continents. Daedric interference? "Super weapons" in the same vein as Numidium? Powerful magics that have been lost to time? I doubt there is more lore on this but if so I would love to know!
Alright, now the shadowscales need an explanation.
Does Sithis get their souls, or the Hist???
Perfect question. As both an Argonian masterrace fanboy and assassin - type build player (Shadowscale being the top backstory since Morrowind) I'm actually embarassed I never wondered about that topic...
@@witoldendrju2458
Here's another:
Who gets the souls of soultrapped argonians?
Or daedra worshippers?
And if daedra worshippers go to the daedra, how did the Hist ever find out about the Oblivion Crisis before it happened? Only people who knew prehand either were not argonians, or members of the Dagon cult.
If I remember correctly the hist and old void-daddy are quite closely linked or smething.
@@FBI-ju5no Either the Argonians' connection to the Hist is stronger, than the force sending spent souls to the Soul Cairn, or they just share the fate of other mortals in this situation.
Hm, are there any Argonian souls in the Cairn we visit in Dawnguard? I can't recall.
About the Oblivion Crisis: if one Argonian in their lifetime find out about a Mehrunes Dagon cult, they think it's just some idiots worshipping a Daedra. If the Hist gathers info from thousands Argonians and a very unusually large number of them have some clues about what's to happen, the Hist knows something bad and big is coming.
@@parandomal Oh, that's actually hell of a point.
Damn... The Shadowscales make sooo much more sense now in hindsight. The Dark Brotherhood in Skyrim should be dominated by Argonians (they are a numerous immigrant race and naturally gifted towards assassination, which seems to be better payed, than dock labour), while if You join as one, it makes... Three (including the hermit on the coast). Just like there are NO Khajiit NPCs in either the DB nor Thieves' Guild :D Stereotypes lie... Same with the Companions: a Dunmer, but no Orcs or Redguards? Nonsense. Both these races are born mercenaries and glory hounds.
Nevermind. After all, maybe the Shadowscales keep to their organisation in Black Marsh and only the lesser - gifted leftovers join Tamriel's Dark Brotherhood, like the Morag Tong.
Peace to y'all, it's 2 AM in my timezone :D
Remember when fudgemuppet hated on eso lore even tho they use it a lot now...Pepperidge Farm remembers
You could've called this video "A History of Hist trees" missed opportunity.
How about the mysterious history of the hist tree
How are you putting out so much high quality content? Whatever. I love it.
Thank you for making this one muppet,Argonian for life.
Muglorgrimlockable love them lizard bois
Hey get to work farm equipment N'Wah
Hamza Feroz I'm sorry what was that Mr dunmer? I couldn't hear you over red mountains eruptions. so glad we don't have those down here in our swamps. don't ever have to worry about our whole race getting wiped out like a bunch of wussys.
(yes I know I'm over exaggerating by saying the whole race)
@@DragonGunzDorian Technically I never actually played Dunmer. Played Imperial all my life
Hamza Feroz lol that's alright just means me being the stormcloak that I am can now trash talk you for being an imperial instead of a dunmer. lmao
(not actually trying to fight btw just joking around and having fun. though I do play argonians and stormcloaks)
This series of lore videos are so incredible. Very impressive work. I can't imagine the work that goes into this
This one harvests the sap of the sleeping tree once a week to do business with Ysolda.
Hist: Hisssss...
Kajit: Maiq does not want to talk anymore, go mind someone else!
Yeah I am finally here on time. And the Hist is such an interesting subject.
Who do you think would win?
The virgin Daedra or the chad Argonians...
It's actually hinted in the lore that that whole event was a lie created by the An-Xileel clan who sized power. As no argonian had memories of it.
@@the_dropbear4392 it might be because the hist brainwashed them
@@bashirsheikh7322
In the book where it was mentioned the other argonian outright calls it propaganda
A video on the different varieties of Argonian? The Khajiit are well known for their different forms, but Argonians are almost as diverse.
I wonder if the reason Argonians are more susceptible to skooma addiction is that it affects the part of their minds that is receptive to Hist sap.
If I recall correctly the quests in ESO imply that the Hist can commune with other species and not just Argonians. The Mnemic egg allows you to enter a Hist dream. It's just that the Argonians are their preferred hands in the world of Tamriel. It is unclear what effect Hist sap would have on other species although some have likely tried given its availability. I suspect hallucinations are the most likely result in non Argonians. However, since the Hist have a connection with the sap I think the Hist could change any species who drank the sap physically and also be commune with them if it was in the best interest of the Hist. Hallucinations are likely the most common result as the Hist don't have a working relationship with non Argonians but I'm positive that if it were important enough to the Hist that they would use another species to commune with in order to complete the task at hand. The Hist would likely give a boon to that creature to increase that creatures chance of completing the task. Since the Hist are primarily located in Black Marsh such boon would likely alter the drinker physically to better adapt to that location but not necessarily if that task was one that needed completing outside of Black Marsh. My thinking is that the Argonians are the hands or tools that the Hist use to further their will in the waking world and to protect the Hist Trees although anyone could become a tool of the Hist if the Hist had a need and use for them.
Yay giant snakes, electric lizards, Crocs, blistering heat, pesky mosquitos, quicksand, and swamps why did you bring me along
This is helping me so much with my backstory for my argonian character.
“If I fall, the hist will reclaim me,”-Fighters Guild Recruit
So he can upload himself into the histweb?
Man. Am I the only one that wants an Elder Scroll VI: Blackmarsh now? The new found militancy of the Argonian's seems like a great catalyst for a shit ton of cool stories to tell.
The argonians invaded Oblivion before Oblivion invaded the argonians. Now that's badassery at its finest.
Another great video as always
Keep up the great work I love the daily elder scrolls lore videos
I was so ready for this video! :)
Another good video... Making the day better, thanks guys. Now another video by Friday or else you have to treat Nazim's boils in his cloud district.
Elder Scrolls Man: I live in a world where undead, daedric princes and cat people exist. Of course a tree cannot be sentient!
I think they are actually a kind of fungus. It perfectly fits what we know about fungi in our world. More over is the theory possed by Terrance McKenna.
Honestly, I feel like Argonia would have made a better location for TES6 than Hammerfall and/or High Rock. The mist parts for the first time in ages, and explorers from factions throughout the continent and perhaps beyond rush to the interior of the Black Marsh, some for fame and fortune, others to explore and reveal the many mysteries of the swamp. Chief among them of why has the Marsh opened?
It just sounds like a really good hook.
Hey, does anyone know what the song is called in the beginning of the videos that Fudgemuppet use to talk about gods? Like the Auriel vs. Akatosh one?
If you know please tell me, I've been looking for it for months...
it's Auriel's Ascension from oblivion
Finally! Thank you so much friend! ^^
So if paarthurnax speaks fire to you is that an...elder yol....
A very informative video guys! It was amazing. After watching this I want to experience this in some future ES game featuring Blackmarsh, maybe ES 7.
That is the only tree that gives its worshipers life. Yeet yeet
I love your vids mubits
Fantastic video guys. Can you make a video explaining the whole Argonian religion? I've always loved playing as an Argonian, but I have no idea as to where their religions goes beyond the Hist.
Love the vids! And it's a little sad that the 'worth it' videos had to end, I loved the lore behind them, but I would love to see some akaviri vids in the future, well I don't know if u have much to work with but I still think that it would be pretty cool 😃
My absolute favourite part of elder scrolls lores is shit like the Hists and Black marsh. This right here is fantasy at its best. It's so alien and unthinkable and just damn weird and unique. High fantasy is a great genre that can explore the most insane ideas and create entirely new world's, yet it's saturated with the same shit over snd over.
The Hists isn't quite like anything I've seen before, even if some elements are present in other fantasy lore
Just trying to imagine black marsh or the society of the Hists in the creation theories, in modern day tamriel and what it is they know or how they know thing
That's the good shit right there. Even when it comes to Elven races, the Elder Scrolls is quite original and unique in its lore, and that's really why I love this series so much
FudgeMuppet's Elder Scrolls videos are like those done by Shoddycast *back* in the day - like 5-6 years ago.
When he said,"Dank bogs," I hoped he was going to say,"Dank memes," for some reason. Instead, my brain heard dank b0ngs and I had to rewind 10 seconds 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂
The history of the hist tree!
I am one with The Hist. The Hist is with me.
This vid was top notch, keep up the good work boys!
This is why Argonians are my favorite race. The Hist is love. The Hist is life.
Missed opportunity not naming this video “Hist-ory of Black Marsh”
I love Argonians because we seem to know the least about them of all the main races
I really think Beth should do more community sourced lore as they used to in Daggerfall. Now more than ever there are amazing content creators who could really help out with sorting out such task and help to bring some coherence to the reckoned convoluted, disjointed mess of beautiful lore this universe has .
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. The debt of blood must be paid in full. Of what do I speak?
Blood price? From the orcs
The orc blood price of which the orc must have the pain and damage inflicted upon them the same as the victim for which had been hurt or done wrong in some way
" It's even said that the breasts of argonian women contain hist sap".
*Picks up copy of the Lusty argonian maid*
Ewwwww.
11:32 you just opened a whole new door on the internet
We need a video about the origins of races like argoinians and men/mer
Black Marsh: We got the Hist
Tiber Septim: I got a Giant Fckin Robot
9:08 you say "Argonians hatch from eggs and rely on hatching pools that form inside nests of raised Hist roots.
They can, and normally do, but - in extreme situations that threaten extinction - Argonians can suddenly be made by the Hist to carry their young and give birth as humans do.
9:20 "An Argonian hatched without the influence of a Hist will not survive"
Wrong, their survival is relatively common. They are named Lukiul (Loo-ke'ool). You double back on this statement shortly after.
9:25 "Once born, Argonian hatchlings drink the Hist's sap, and continue to do so throughout their infancy."
No, that happens much later, typically once or twice as part of rituals. Not, for example, dozens of times as you're implying.
That, and ingestion of Hist sap, even to an Argonian, usually leads to hallucinations and other virile effects. Only through ritualistic means may ingestion lead to visions, things of a clearer nature, empowerment and the like. That, and one would simply have to be in the right place, at the right time, for consuming Hist sap to aid in fulfilling a task or gathering knowledge - both of which are fairly rare occurrences.
10:09 "The sap that flows from a Hist tree contains concentrated Magicka."
Yet vampires and necromancers do not prioritize or refrain from taking advantage of Argonians. They, of all individuals, would be exposed to a tangible form of Magicka if it existed.
So there has to be a different explanation for how Argonians can handle cold weather.
11:28 "Argonians drink Hist sap throughout their lives."
No they don't. We hallucinate and feel ill like everyone else if we just chug it like Skooma.
11:33 "It's said that female Argonian breasts contain Hist sap."
It's neither confirmed nor denied, but it might tie in to what I said about 9:08.
Mehrunes Dagon: “…why… are there lizards… invading my lands?…”
You know what makes the Hist beating Mehrunes even funnier.
PART OF MEHRUNES SPHERE IS LITERALLY A STAPLE OF ARGONIAN TEACHING.
They were in his fucking ballpark, and he was the one who got turned into a benchwarmer
Trees talk to us in real life too. That's not a metaphor, they actually do
But not in a way anyone can understand. Unless you're insane...
@@Kahadi I've heard shrooms do the trick ;)
Two Imperial Guards at camp
"Whats that sound?"
"It's the trees...You remember the Black Marsh, on the Borders of Valenwood? Folk used to say there was something in the water thay made the trees grow tall...and come alive! Trees that could whisper...talk to each other...even move!"
“In order to thrive in this tropical environment we will need to use the means at hand. This is gonna involve the network. It’s gonna include dank bogs.”
I'm just saying that a Hist Speaker build would be awesome if you could pull it off somehow. Maybe Restoration, Alteration, Conjuration?
I think I just figured out how the Hist saw the Oblivion crisis coming. I don't know the timeline, if Black Marsh was hit before or after Kvatch, but the Argonian sacrifice in the shrine cave was, presumably, from Argonia and thus would have a link with the Hist. I could be entirely wrong, though.
old comment
your 'probably' wrong the hist seems to be almost omniscient or if maybe they know some hidden magic from a previous kalpa and used that I dont know
So if a vampire Argonian is killed does the hist or Molag Bal get the soul?
shrug
Quite the hist-ory there.
Black March: sentient trees that have a hive mind and a loyal race
Pandora: sentient trees that have a hive mind with a loyal race
I wonder if there is out there, somewhere in Nirn, other Hist trees. Such as in Akavir. Or, perhaps, pure Elhnofey.
I was really wishing that ES:6 was going to be Black Marsh. Hammerfell is good too I guess...
if there was a black marsh game 9 races would die every minute and argonians would have to be buffed up to lore standards or they would die too because the 50% disease resistance and no poison resistance from skyrim aint cutting it
Any reason why you didn't mention how the Argonians use the roots as an underground super highway?
Molag bal:"my gates will takeover tamriel"
Hist:"hold my sap"
Andrew Bises Mehrunes Dagon >:(
Mehrunes Dagon: We are invading you!
Hist and Argonians: Uno reverse card
Or if you look closer the ruling argonian clan may have just pulled a thalmor and claimed they did that.
We know from the infernal city books that no argonian actually has a memory of it, but the ruthless clan that seized power said that it happened, and since this clan control managed to seize control of the access to the just they claimed that they were the ones who managed to do the ritual to slow it to happen.
However since this clan forbids people from connecting to the hist no one can confirm whether they are lying or not. And given how ruthlessly they treat other argonians, they probably are lying.
@FudgeMuppet It is a good presentation but what about AMBERPLAM from Ruins of Mazzatun.
Don’t know why but I can only picture the daedra fleeing the Argonians with the “run away” audio from Monty python holy grail where the fled from the rabbit.
Reading the Book "A Children's Anuad" brought me here :)
Woah that was very poetic
Could it be possible that the hist trees and spriggans are connected or related?
Spriggans would be more closely related to Hircine, as Spriggans typically hunt/kill hunters. Meanwhile Argonians have little to nothing to say about Spriggans, and see no kindred spirit in them whatsoever. That is to say, the Hist doesn't influence Spriggans to spare its Argonian children, let alone help them.
@@RdTrler if I recall right spriggans are related to bosmer
Brill video guys, however have you ever considered using ESO for your videos, the location are visually amazing. Murkmire would have really added to ethos of this video
I always wondered why the hist allowed, and you could even say encouraged argonian enslavement by the dunmer. But now I think about it, what better way could you spy on a potential threat than by having a sleeper agent in every household.
But my then also.. what benefit did the hist see in allowing black marsh to join the empire 🤔 and what was gained from them seceding from it.
old comment but
they probably wanted peace because they didnt want argonia to be destroyed
the argonians with the hist make fearce fighters so a war wouldve lasted a long time which could potentially destroy parts of the swamp
besides the empire littery could not get out of the north eastern corner the only way they would be able to is by burning the trees and plants and I'd imagine the hist and argonians wouldnt want that