Absolutely love the x-adv.. I'm going to be buying one this year, there's nothing else that grabs my imagination after 46 years of biking. I've done sports bikes, sport tourers, adventure bikes and retro's.. x-adv is something different that's equally capable of being a tourer and a weekend country lane blaster.. and I'm really into automatics, plus it's Honda, so high build quality and reliability. Scooter type bikes aren't common over here, but on the continent they are huge. The x-adv is Honda's 2nd best selling bike world wide. Good review Mark, there aren't many reviews in English on UA-cam for this bike.
Brilliant bike and I absolutely love mine, managed to drop it though and it cost £2500 and that was mainly plastic and a scuffed exhaust, the muffler is £768 by the way 😖
I grew up on RDs in my teens and wouldn’t have dreamed of r,idling a scooter but now I’m old I realise the benefits of storage and comfort and I’ve now owned two in recent years bought at Xmax 400 which I regret trading in . I have a R9T Sport and a Vespa GTS300 , I’m very comfortable on the Beamer but I use the Vespa for my commute and a general runabout but the handlebars and the seating position hurts my back regardless of moving about.. So I’m thinking of the Honda but I think a 400 is more than adequate for 95% of my riding and it’s great having the bigger engine but it usually means less storage ,I think this bike would be good for two up touring and yes it should have cruise and heated grips and seat option. Either the ADV or the Forza .😁❤️🏍🇬🇧
@@jamesbatten8659 I had an RD250LC and I've had 2 BMW GS Adventures but they're to big and heavy. Have a look at the Honda ADV 350, could be perfect for you 🙂👍🏻
I had the XADV gen 1. Alongside my BMW F900XR. I sold it as I thought I would focus the BMW and didn't want the XADV to sit in the garage. After a few months I had "sellers remorse"! I missed it much more than I thought I would. Got spoiled by the DCT. So,,,, I just ordered the new gen XADV again. Delivery is planned for Q1 2022. I rarely buy the same model bike twice but the XADV is in a league of its own. I will not make the same mistake and expect the new XADV will have a space in my garage for a very long time. Fortunately I can still keep the F900XR but I think the XADV will get much more play time. It's really good.
Thinking of one as a 2nd bike for town stuff (have GS1200) and days when I just want to cruise around. Torn as the ADV350 is half the price. The NC DCT £2K cheaper just doesn't look as sexy and the Fora 750 has more weather protection. AND just test rode the NT1100 but manual (want to try DCT). Great bike but wouldn't swap my GS for one. Can't get a test ride on the other bikes yet. Will have to be patient. Interesting it made such an impression on you though. Cheers P.S. The dealer had the pale grey X-ADv with cases in a showroom and it looked amazing....so will probably get one of those :)
Thanks Mark for a well constructed review on a very interesting bike. I’m seriously considering buying an XADV after 22years on BMW 1150/1200GS bikes. I’ve had a test ride, and like you was most impressed with the performance which really surprised me, The feet forward riding position was excellent for an old timer with worn out knees after years of dirt biking. The bike fitted me very well too (6ft2in tall). I think this bike would be a pretty good tourer with the addition of rack, full size top box , tank/tunnel bag and heated grips Roll on summer, I want one,XADV here I come.
Hi Alan, I’ve only recently ordered XADV. It is a special edition model, only 56 coming to UK. White colour with graphics and red highlights, I have waited 2 years for a fancier paint job. I take delivery May first. I’ll be saying farewell to my BMW R1200GS Adv. Continental 2 up touring days now over, but looking forward to a good blast nearer to home, I think the XADV will do the job well.
Had a go on one of these when they first came out, when I was having my bike serviced, thought it was great. However, looking at the price in the UK, I’d say Honda need to up spec it, with cruise control, heated grips, heated seat and Apple carplay connection for the TFT. That would make it a far more interesting proposition. I do still find myself at odds with the scooter looks, if only Honda would do one with 17” front and rear wheels, then I think I’d be up for having an X-ADV in my garage.
I ride an 06 Concours 1000, but always find I'm taking my wife's PGO Big Max 50 scooter to work. I like it's riding position, the twist and go, especially it's weight. It's simply less work to ride in town. They ever bring these Honda's X-ADV's to Canada and my C10 may be for sale. I like the looks of this Honda, a lot, and it looks like it's got plenty of power. At 53 years of age, I wonder for how long I'll be able to manage the weight of the Concours. This new Honda is now on my radar. Great job as usual Mark. Cheers.
As soon as I hired ADV 750 in Madeira Portugal for five days I wanted to buy it. But I wanted style so went for the Forza 750. Traded in my BMW R1200RT. What I like about the manual mode is that you’ve changed down then want auto you’ve slowed down auto will change so it won’t labour the engine. Also ordered the central locking top box. I absolutely Love it.
Hi Mark, I had the previous model and its worth knowing that when in "manual" it will not let the engine stall, so it will change down (not up), and if coming to a complete stop will change down to 1st gear (NOT Neutral), so you have to be aware, that when (or if) pulling away say from a quick stop, you will still be in "manual" and therefore it will not change up from that 1st gear (which you soon find out because you will very quickly hit the limiter), BTW, the easiest way to mount/dismount is by standing on the foot-board(s) and swinging your leg OVER in the usual way ( I bought a side stand extender, which makes it a bit safer and slightly makes the bike more upright). I don't know why they fitted that after-market screen as the original is perfectly adequate, I didn't get ant turbulence with my Arai Tour-X4 helmet , even it it's lowest setting. I now have a Tiger 900 GT PRO, if I had the room, I would have kept the X-ADV, but the Tiger is much more exciting. Cheers, Gordon
Thanks for the comment Gordon.... crescent like to jazz up their bikes a bit with aftermarket parts hence the screen :) Must try the tiger 900 out soon Regards mark
Thanks Mark. This is a very interesting bike. But I can see that it needs more refinements. A lower seat that is easier to negotiate and cruise control for starters. I higher windscreen option is secondary. I realize that lowering the seat means not enough room for a full size helmet in the storage area. But motorcycle ergonomics are supposed to be made for the rider and not the helmet. Again, Honda sets certain goals and they seem to get written in stone before a complete study is made of all the pluses and minuses. Set the goals, design the bike, roll it of the assembly line... wham bam, thank you ma'am. I will say that the hand guards were a nice added touch for this kind of bike. Of course, everything else was very good standard quality Honda fair. Gord
Finally! Great review as always. Do you think this will be underpowered with 2 up and some stuff for touring? My wife have not seen this in person but she thinks that the touring bikes like versys or tracer is more suitable for us? To me, I like the looks and its automatic transmission for more convenience. What you guys think? 🍻 My brothers plan to buy a versys 650 and 1000. So also considering this if we go touring with xadv if can keep up. 🙄
Hi ....I'm sure it will be fine 2 up ..and will still do an easy 70 mph plus ...but try and see one in the flesh to see if you and your wife can get on it ok as it's quite tall Cheers mark
Hi! I own 2018 and I'm 5.7, it is little tall but not bad at all, xadv has very low center gravity so it is easy to handle.. Once you get use to it is very manageable! Great comuter/tourer I got mine for 7k with 2k milage from honda so I think for this money is worth it. I woudl not pay 10 k for new one. I woudl try to find africa twin as latest models has slim seat and I can reach to ground same as on xadv... Well over all depands on personal needs I have vfr gen 5 in my garage but tbh since I have xadv my vfr it's been in garage all this time. Dct is great it's so comfortable I love it! If you tall person seating position is not great take a look on ridercam TV review he is tall and he looks funny on it...... For my hight is good, 5 10 you will be perfect! And when you tour with your mates on 1000cc you are not slowing nobody down and you laughing on the petrol station.... more money left for boose! Same fun factor and nothing hurts! Lol. Ride safe everyone!
Positive review of the 750 twin, so my NC750X should be a nice relaxed ride. They are coming into the States very slowly. As always Mark “Top Marks” from Wisconsin ( Go Bucks)
and your 2020-2021 Nba finals champions, The MILWAUKEE BUCKS!!! well deserved and it's been a rocky journey guys, the drought is long gone... Giannis is a treasure, you guys take good care of him. btw nice bike, i am looking at getting nc750x as well. wait shouldn't you be a harley guy?... i mean, Milwaukee? harley and indian as well... LOL
@@hunyango2k Rode Harleys for 32 years but needed something lighter after I had a hip replacement. I’m 72 and still love it. The Bucks are incredible and Giannis scored 50 points. Milwaukee loves the guy and I hope he stays forever. He is truly a Class Act.
Another bike Honda deigns to not send stateside for fear of lackluster sales but scooter sales are significantly up in the US and Maxi Scooters are well on the rise also. It’s a mistake on Honda’s part
Just watched this again. Not sure if I commented on it first time. If I had one of these, I'd have to buy the accessory motorcycle pegs. That would give a real choice of riding position - motorcycle style or scooter. These bikes are a little expensive for a glorified NC. Nice, though. Excellent review.
I did not like the chain drive and the gearbox with gears. One of the benefits of the classic scooter design is that belt + covered variator is your gearbox + drive. That design is cheap, easy to fix and free of regular maintenance. You don't have to clean, maintained, lube and adjust a motorcycle chain.
Is there a price difference between the xadv, and the Forza? Please tell . I believe honda did a superb job when creating the dct together with the twin engines , the 750 and the 1100. I mean, if you ever own an automatically shifting motorcycle, it was always using a dry clutch belt driven CVT. The problem with this is that it doesn't last long. Durability is an issue. From the tmax 560, BMW c650, to the very complicated burgman 650. You have to replace everything at 50-60k ,drive and driven pulley's and all. And it's not cheap. Regular servicing for the rollers, belts and greasing the collar is a hassle. Honda solved all this issues with the DCT all together ❤️. Final drive is beautifully chain driven, simple, smooth, durable and maximum power transfer. Love how thorough honda did it👍.
Test rode one at the weekend...........the exact model you are riding too. Still got the Powerbronze screen on too. It's strange seeing your local roads as well. Still looks fresh for a demo model, so that's a good endorsement. Amazing bikes, love the DCT. Seat height is fine at 5ft8 Only managed 65MPG, but I think that is more to the noise from the exhaust causing more fun than the NC, which I got 74 from. Can't make my mind up yet, but it ticks the right boxes
Hi Mark, first time here, very impressed with your review and very impressed with this machine, only thing missing was cruise control. I did`nt know these bikes existed until I was passed by one on the open road (NZ) doing about 120 kmh ,with a pillion passenger. Totally blew me away, so now I want one. I rode the 150 cc in the Cook Islands and loved it. Your review has me convinced. Subd & belled ,cheers .
Just tested it today to compare it against my NC750X DCT and found it much better in every way in my opinion. Just gotta find the cash now to make up the difference with my part-ex the NC.
Yesterday i drove both of them; the Forza 750 and this X-ADV. The X is more fun than the Forza and i find it more easy to steer into corners. I could take roundabouts with a greater leaning angle and a bit faster than with the Forza and i am wondering if you experienced the same since you drove them both to. Thank you for your video’s.
Great, info-packed review ! I wish this was available with lower footboards as, with my long legs, my knees end up too high and get in the way of the handlebars. Excellent engine and I can recommend it to everyone (NC750X owner).
I see the 2022 version is a bit lower. Wonder if it's worth paying a bit more for that? I just saw the gray one in the flesh with top box and it looks fantastic. Better weather protection on Forza 750 though, but this would be more fun. Hmmmm.
It's a shame that they won't be sold here in the US. I would have loved to own one. Instead I recently purchased a 2023 Honda NC-750XD pretty much the same thing just not as off road capable.
I don't know why I want one of these, but it's a big NO for the US. Maybe they'll send it over this way once they get cruise available :) Another great review by Mark.
Mark loved the review I’m thinking of one of these as a second bike for my wife and I that way I can pull the rear pegs off my other motorcycle and it will be truly mine anyways I don’t believe I caught the price of this motorcycle but this is the Second review I’ve seen On it the first one was by lamb chop or Mr. Fish can’t remember and I do prefer to call it a motorcycle instead of a scooter. I guess the other question I have is the maintenance intervals that you stated are they in kilometers or miles and how much it costs keep up the good work I love watching yourChannel
Saludos desde Colombia. Thanks so much by the review!! Hace un tiempo que encargué la mia, un par de meses atras y cada vez tengo más ganas de tenerla en mis manos y poderla sentir ronroneando con su potente motor 😊
great video, thanks...looks EURO 5 gear ratio doesn't affect overtaking ability dramatically...longer 456 gear....very likely my next bike!...yep, absence of cruise control for that money is a shame
Genuinely looked at getting one of these but yes no cruise control!! And at 5ft 8" I also wasn't flat footed either, maybe the model after this they may lower or slim the seat down and put the cruise control on and fit heated grips as standard. I know have a triumph 900 Gt Pro and very pleased with it. Jim
@@markpulling12 yup the nc750dct is on list as well, had the manual version on loan from ins company last month following an accident on my tiger 800 (not my fault lol) great bit if kit but ready for auto now 😊
Mark, good review and covers most of my need to knows. You mentioned cruise control which is a glaring omission but also heated grips. Not standard and massively expensive and a total rip-off costing several hundred pounds to buy and fit. This should be standard on a bike of this type and price. Oxfords are an alternative but look messy and tacked on. Which they are!
Thanks for the comment Yes I know re oxfords ...they are cheap and effective but look a bit tacked on ...I like the factory look The Yamaha oe heated grips on the tracer 9 gt are very slick Regards mark
Hi Mark, Another very extensive Review covered everything 👏👏👏 looks a lovely Bike, but I think I prefer the Forza , as you say Great fir Touring, one up. Look forward to your next review 👍👍👍🏍🏍
I'm riding a T7 at the moment, love it, but I'd have one of those if I was shorter, it's a great idea other than far too expensive for what it is (to my mind at least) Well thought out and clear review as we've come to expect. 10/10
@@jefferyschirm4103 had the silver wing from 04 till 13 newer disappointed me had arrow exhaust kn filter end power commander end hi flow pump 72 hp Dino woos a rocket
Good review, it is a good all rounder, good for the city, open roads, can carry a lots of stuff and i believe is very comfy. So who know, maybe one days it will appear in my garage :)
Maybe not quite. If you find some servicing videos on the previous model you'll see that oil filter and spark plugs are accessible removing about 4 screws around the bash plate. And the air filter are a bit more, maybe 6, but some are plastic plugs easy to unplug, on the front center, below the handle bar.
@@zakit Thanks for that ,but a important factor when purchasing a bike servicing costs (hidden costs ) . We’re all told this bike does this this bike does that. But journalists and manufacturers never give you the true cost of ownership warts and all. In my experience customer after sales is poor at best from most manufacturers .
Great review. I like that you go into a review open minded, judging a bike by its merits, whilst some seem to make up mind at the concept and stick a certain bias. Like the bike but not the price tag. I like that it looks futuristic. I can see more bikes looking like this (especially when we go electric)
Hi Mark. Great review as always Love the Honda X ADV would you recommend buying one ? I've a Kymco AK 550 Scooter a fantastic machine but fancy a change but have arthritic ankles so I'm unable to ride most bikes so has to be a scooter (type) Look forward to more great reviews. Steve
I always wonder who buys these, apparently they sell well, but I have only ever seen one out on the road. I suppose the question always get asked is it more of a scooter, or a motorbike? I like the look of them, and the concept.
Thanks for your very nice content Mark. I'm looking for my 1st bike to make long journeys across Europe and be able to go on even on gravel roads. Would you recomend this or the Tenere 700 and why? Cheers
Hello mate. Thanks for tagging me in this. What a great bike this is. Love it. Think I'm going to start off on its baby brother though. The ADV 350. It'll have enough power for what I need it for & as you told me earlier, the 350 doesn't really loose any power with a pillion on board, which is great. I may step up to one of these in a few years.
Being 5'8" would that make much difference? Can you get a manual version or only DCT?Cruise control? Overall I'm very impressed as I do most of my riding around town. Good for some gravel road travel with fishing gear. Cruise control would make it a perfect expressway bike for short out of town trips.
I test rode this on Saturday, it was the previous model though with LCD non backlit display. I'm sure the engine was the same. It's a Beast! I found the throttle was extremely sensitive from standing start. Didn't feel any heavier than my Forza 300. We don't have the Forza 750 here yet. Just wondering what the handling difference is as you've ridden them both? Please reply and I'll subscribe.
Hi thanks for the comment...the handling felt a bit more plush on the adv .. probably because of its long travel forks. and 17 inch wheel..very sure footed and the Bridgestone tyres are good...the Forza is still nice but not designed for any off road Regards mark
Great review Mark. Have a Forza 350 on order but I’m still deciding on if I’ve made the right decision. I like these and the NC 750. Hmmm decisions decisions 😂
I would also stick with 350. I found the weight of the XDV pushing it around was significantly higher than my 300 Forza and as Mark says the 350 Forza is still a very relaxed bike plus the 350 has an electric screen you can adjust on the move. Midi scooters of 300-400cc are the sweet spot for scooters before they have to adopt bigger twin engines and become motorcycles in scooter clothes. And then often have to have chains to keep oiled & maintained !
Another great ride review Mark, thank you. In your opinion, bearing in mind a mix of roads, A286, A3 and central London riding, which would be best? This or the Forza or the NC for commuting? The only real constraint I have is a 31" inside leg.
@@theyoungestboomer oh yes they are all perfect just the NC,750 comes in a manual version if you wanted a bit of geared fun at weekends say But all are brilliant commuters Cheers mark
mark been thinking about one and just like Hugh Gebbie said in his review its after many years on many differant bikes ... in the last few years iv had 2 tiger 800s one tiger 900 , that i did 300 miles on and didnt like it . tracer 900 and a 650 vstrom. I also have knee issues so this may be exactly whats needed ,, my biggest concern is how well they carry a passenger and i dont mean a 16 yer old girl thats 8st wet through :) no one ever takes a pillion on the reviews and for me its a must as my other half wants to be able to come out on the back from time to time
Hi Ian yes this would be a great choice...I did take a passenger with no problems but the seat and bike body is very wide at the back so it does push the legs out a bit but generally a great maxi scooter Cheers mark
Hi Mark, Can't believe I'm considering this, but I'm thinking of trading in my Harley Davidson for a scooter.😮 I recently rode a Yamaha tech max and absolutely loved it.Automatic and loaded with technology.I recently asked your advice on preference between the Forza and the tmax and you preferred the tmax, by a small margin. Another bike has come forward and I know you have ridden it as well........Honda X adv. Would you spend your own money on that rather than a tmax? I was due to ride the X adv yesterday for comparison but decided to cancel due to poor weather. Another opinion from someone who has ridden all of them would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mark.
Hi Diane yes another fantastic bike ...but don't think I'd be going off. road at all on a scooter...but it would make a great machine for poor UK roads ..but my choice would still be a T Max...560;...that really is a superb machine I found it very engaging to ride Best wishes mark
Hey Mark. The Facebook Honda Forza group is buzzing with news to expect a 350cc ADV. I will look forward to seeing your reviews when you get one to test ride. I'd be interested in it because I'm riding the Honda Forza 300cc but how will it do with old fart touring I wonder?
Great video,, why is it we can get 100 ish miles to to gallon from these gr8 bikes .but we've in 2030 got to go to electric what will do maybe 50 to 80 miles a charge. Boris Yr a ...,.
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Absolutely love the x-adv.. I'm going to be buying one this year, there's nothing else that grabs my imagination after 46 years of biking. I've done sports bikes, sport tourers, adventure bikes and retro's.. x-adv is something different that's equally capable of being a tourer and a weekend country lane blaster.. and I'm really into automatics, plus it's Honda, so high build quality and reliability. Scooter type bikes aren't common over here, but on the continent they are huge. The x-adv is Honda's 2nd best selling bike world wide. Good review Mark, there aren't many reviews in English on UA-cam for this bike.
Thanks Barry yes great choice 👍
Best wishes mark
Brilliant bike and I absolutely love mine, managed to drop it though and it cost £2500 and that was mainly plastic and a scuffed exhaust, the muffler is £768 by the way 😖
@@KRAM-zb2vc ouch!🫤
I grew up on RDs in my teens and wouldn’t have dreamed of r,idling a scooter but now I’m old I realise the benefits of storage and comfort and I’ve now owned two in recent years bought at Xmax 400 which I regret trading in .
I have a R9T Sport and a Vespa GTS300 , I’m very comfortable on the Beamer but I use the Vespa for my commute and a general runabout but the handlebars and the seating position hurts my back regardless of moving about..
So I’m thinking of the Honda but I think a 400 is more than adequate for 95% of my riding and it’s great having the bigger engine but it usually means less storage ,I think this bike would be good for two up touring and yes it should have cruise and heated grips and seat option.
Either the ADV or the Forza .😁❤️🏍🇬🇧
@@jamesbatten8659 I had an RD250LC and I've had 2 BMW GS Adventures but they're to big and heavy. Have a look at the Honda ADV 350, could be perfect for you 🙂👍🏻
I had the XADV gen 1. Alongside my BMW F900XR. I sold it as I thought I would focus the BMW and didn't want the XADV to sit in the garage. After a few months I had "sellers remorse"! I missed it much more than I thought I would. Got spoiled by the DCT. So,,,, I just ordered the new gen XADV again. Delivery is planned for Q1 2022. I rarely buy the same model bike twice but the XADV is in a league of its own. I will not make the same mistake and expect the new XADV will have a space in my garage for a very long time. Fortunately I can still keep the F900XR but I think the XADV will get much more play time. It's really good.
Thinking of one as a 2nd bike for town stuff (have GS1200) and days when I just want to cruise around. Torn as the ADV350 is half the price. The NC DCT £2K cheaper just doesn't look as sexy and the Fora 750 has more weather protection. AND just test rode the NT1100 but manual (want to try DCT). Great bike but wouldn't swap my GS for one. Can't get a test ride on the other bikes yet. Will have to be patient. Interesting it made such an impression on you though. Cheers P.S. The dealer had the pale grey X-ADv with cases in a showroom and it looked amazing....so will probably get one of those :)
Thanks Mark for a well constructed review on a very interesting bike. I’m seriously considering buying an XADV after 22years on BMW 1150/1200GS bikes. I’ve had a test ride, and like you was most impressed with the performance which really surprised me, The feet forward riding position was excellent for an old timer with worn out knees after years of dirt biking. The bike fitted me very well too (6ft2in tall).
I think this bike would be a pretty good tourer with the addition of rack, full size top box , tank/tunnel bag and heated grips Roll on summer, I want one,XADV here I come.
Thanks hugh 😀
Great choice
how have you found your XADV?
Hi Alan,
I’ve only recently ordered XADV. It is a special edition model, only 56 coming to UK. White colour with graphics and red highlights, I have waited 2 years for a fancier paint job. I take delivery May first. I’ll be saying farewell to my BMW R1200GS Adv. Continental 2 up touring days now over, but looking forward to a good blast nearer to home, I think the XADV will do the job well.
If I had a 9-5 job that involved a commute with motorway plus town I cannot think of a better machine than this
Had a go on one of these when they first came out, when I was having my bike serviced, thought it was great. However, looking at the price in the UK, I’d say Honda need to up spec it, with cruise control, heated grips, heated seat and Apple carplay connection for the TFT. That would make it a far more interesting proposition. I do still find myself at odds with the scooter looks, if only Honda would do one with 17” front and rear wheels, then I think I’d be up for having an X-ADV in my garage.
I ride an 06 Concours 1000, but always find I'm taking my wife's PGO Big Max 50 scooter to work. I like it's riding position, the twist and go, especially it's weight. It's simply less work to ride in town.
They ever bring these Honda's X-ADV's to Canada and my C10 may be for sale. I like the looks of this Honda, a lot, and it looks like it's got plenty of power. At 53 years of age, I wonder for how long I'll be able to manage the weight of the Concours. This new Honda is now on my radar.
Great job as usual Mark.
Cheers.
Thanks yes these are great bikes
Hope you get them in Canada :)
Cheers mark
As soon as I hired ADV 750 in Madeira Portugal for five days I wanted to buy it. But I wanted style so went for the Forza 750. Traded in my BMW R1200RT. What I like about the manual mode is that you’ve changed down then want auto you’ve slowed down auto will change so it won’t labour the engine. Also ordered the central locking top box. I absolutely Love it.
I have 22 plate and it’s brilliant I use it everyday. Had my RT1200 stolen glad I replaced it with the x-adv off to the Isle of Man for a ride.
Finally a proper review covering pretty much everything 💯
really makes you think about these bikes as an alternative, to the faster models, very, very pratical.
Cheers Neale :)
Hi Mark, I had the previous model and its worth knowing that when in "manual" it will not let the engine stall, so it will change down (not up), and if coming to a complete stop will change down to 1st gear (NOT Neutral), so you have to be aware, that when (or if) pulling away say from a quick stop, you will still be in "manual" and therefore it will not change up from that 1st gear (which you soon find out because you will very quickly hit the limiter), BTW, the easiest way to mount/dismount is by standing on the foot-board(s) and swinging your leg OVER in the usual way ( I bought a side stand extender, which makes it a bit safer and slightly makes the bike more upright). I don't know why they fitted that after-market screen as the original is perfectly adequate, I didn't get ant turbulence with my Arai Tour-X4 helmet , even it it's lowest setting. I now have a Tiger 900 GT PRO, if I had the room, I would have kept the X-ADV, but the Tiger is much more exciting. Cheers, Gordon
Thanks for the comment Gordon.... crescent like to jazz up their bikes a bit with aftermarket parts hence the screen :)
Must try the tiger 900 out soon
Regards mark
Thanks Mark. This is a very interesting bike. But I can see that it needs more refinements. A lower seat that is easier to negotiate and cruise control for starters. I higher windscreen option is secondary.
I realize that lowering the seat means not enough room for a full size helmet in the storage area. But motorcycle ergonomics are supposed to be made for the rider and not the helmet.
Again, Honda sets certain goals and they seem to get written in stone before a complete study is made of all the pluses and minuses. Set the goals, design the bike, roll it of the assembly line... wham bam, thank you ma'am.
I will say that the hand guards were a nice added touch for this kind of bike. Of course, everything else was very good standard quality Honda fair.
Gord
Thanks for the great comment :)
Finally! Great review as always. Do you think this will be underpowered with 2 up and some stuff for touring? My wife have not seen this in person but she thinks that the touring bikes like versys or tracer is more suitable for us? To me, I like the looks and its automatic transmission for more convenience. What you guys think? 🍻 My brothers plan to buy a versys 650 and 1000. So also considering this if we go touring with xadv if can keep up. 🙄
Hi ....I'm sure it will be fine 2 up ..and will still do an easy 70 mph plus ...but try and see one in the flesh to see if you and your wife can get on it ok as it's quite tall
Cheers mark
Hi! I own 2018 and I'm 5.7, it is little tall but not bad at all, xadv has very low center gravity so it is easy to handle.. Once you get use to it is very manageable! Great comuter/tourer I got mine for 7k with 2k milage from honda so I think for this money is worth it. I woudl not pay 10 k for new one. I woudl try to find africa twin as latest models has slim seat and I can reach to ground same as on xadv... Well over all depands on personal needs I have vfr gen 5 in my garage but tbh since I have xadv my vfr it's been in garage all this time. Dct is great it's so comfortable I love it! If you tall person seating position is not great take a look on ridercam TV review he is tall and he looks funny on it...... For my hight is good, 5 10 you will be perfect! And when you tour with your mates on 1000cc you are not slowing nobody down and you laughing on the petrol station.... more money left for boose! Same fun factor and nothing hurts! Lol. Ride safe everyone!
Positive review of the 750 twin, so my NC750X should be a nice relaxed ride. They are coming into the States very slowly. As always Mark “Top Marks” from Wisconsin ( Go Bucks)
Thanks greatings to Wisconsin !
and your 2020-2021 Nba finals champions, The MILWAUKEE BUCKS!!! well deserved and it's been a rocky journey guys, the drought is long gone... Giannis is a treasure, you guys take good care of him. btw nice bike, i am looking at getting nc750x as well. wait shouldn't you be a harley guy?... i mean, Milwaukee? harley and indian as well... LOL
@@hunyango2k Rode Harleys for 32 years but needed something lighter after I had a hip replacement. I’m 72 and still love it. The Bucks are incredible and Giannis scored 50 points. Milwaukee loves the guy and I hope he stays forever. He is truly a Class Act.
Another bike Honda deigns to not send stateside for fear of lackluster sales but scooter sales are significantly up in the US and Maxi Scooters are well on the rise also. It’s a mistake on Honda’s part
That's a shame I think these would sell well in the states
Regards mark
Just watched this again. Not sure if I commented on it first time. If I had one of these, I'd have to buy the accessory motorcycle pegs. That would give a real choice of riding position - motorcycle style or scooter. These bikes are a little expensive for a glorified NC. Nice, though.
Excellent review.
Can’t believe Honda omitted cruise control. Especially as the cost of the bike, is premium.
It would then have been absolutely perfect.
Yes I agree .. wish it had cruise
C'mon Mr Honda
Regards mark
Just p- exed my t7 for one of these. time for something different, i,ve not looked forward to a bike as much in years. Delivery next week 👍
I did not like the chain drive and the gearbox with gears. One of the benefits of the classic scooter design is that belt + covered variator is your gearbox + drive. That design is cheap, easy to fix and free of regular maintenance. You don't have to clean, maintained, lube and adjust a motorcycle chain.
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Is there a price difference between the xadv, and the Forza? Please tell . I believe honda did a superb job when creating the dct together with the twin engines , the 750 and the 1100. I mean, if you ever own an automatically shifting motorcycle, it was always using a dry clutch belt driven CVT. The problem with this is that it doesn't last long. Durability is an issue. From the tmax 560, BMW c650, to the very complicated burgman 650. You have to replace everything at 50-60k ,drive and driven pulley's and all. And it's not cheap. Regular servicing for the rollers, belts and greasing the collar is a hassle. Honda solved all this issues with the DCT all together ❤️. Final drive is beautifully chain driven, simple, smooth, durable and maximum power transfer. Love how thorough honda did it👍.
£10949: x adv
£10099 Forza
Cheers mark
Test rode one at the weekend...........the exact model you are riding too. Still got the Powerbronze screen on too. It's strange seeing your local roads as well.
Still looks fresh for a demo model, so that's a good endorsement.
Amazing bikes, love the DCT.
Seat height is fine at 5ft8
Only managed 65MPG, but I think that is more to the noise from the exhaust causing more fun than the NC, which I got 74 from.
Can't make my mind up yet, but it ticks the right boxes
Great review. I’ve got one on order. Can’t wait. Glad there is no crap background music too.
Hi Mark, first time here, very impressed with your review and very impressed with this machine, only thing missing was cruise control. I did`nt know these bikes existed until I was passed by one on the open road (NZ) doing about 120 kmh ,with a pillion passenger. Totally blew me away, so now I want one. I rode the 150 cc in the Cook Islands and loved it. Your review has me convinced. Subd & belled ,cheers .
Hi jono ... welcome :)
Yes these are great bikes... greetings to NZ
Cheers mark
Do honda dealerships have the x adv 750 in nz?
That’s a machine I would buy. Can’t get one in the USA though, pity. Great review, Mark. I always enjoy your thorough, non biased approach.
Thanks 👍
Looks difficult to get on without giving the bodywork a good kick.
Don't like the rear chain, should have an enclosed belt. I'll keep my Honda Forza.
Haha yes it is a little tricky to get onboard ! Cheers mark
I don't know if i'd call it a scooter, but it's not quite a motorcycle either. They need to make a new category for these kinds of hybrids💖💖👏🏼👏🏼
Well said Roy !
Just tested it today to compare it against my NC750X DCT and found it much better in every way in my opinion. Just gotta find the cash now to make up the difference with my part-ex the NC.
Great ...hope your upgrade goes ok
Cheers mark
I just went to Honda dealer to have a look, this thing looks space-age. The NC looks dull and utilitarian, even if it does do the same job (ish).
Yesterday i drove both of them; the Forza 750 and this X-ADV. The X is more fun than the Forza and i find it more easy to steer into corners. I could take roundabouts with a greater leaning angle and a bit faster than with the Forza and i am wondering if you experienced the same since you drove them both to. Thank you for your video’s.
Yes the x adv is more like a motorcycle handling whereas the Forza is a huge maxi scooter
Cheers mark
Great, info-packed review !
I wish this was available with lower footboards as, with my long legs, my knees end up too high and get in the way of the handlebars.
Excellent engine and I can recommend it to everyone (NC750X owner).
Thanks I love the nc750x !
It's engine is superb 😉
How would the off road pegs be for you? Rides more like a conventional bike then with legs going behind engine
Ten years ago, I never thought I would see a scooter like this, but wondered why not. They took their time getting to this stage. No cruise control?
i thought you already reviewed this one, forgot that one was the forza... as always, you don't disappoint. keep it coming, cheers.
Thanks my pleasure :)
Awesome review mate! New Subscriber here! Got no motorcycle just watching reviews of my dream bike. Happy watching it! Very good review.
Thanks for the sub Joseph :)
Im no Honda lover.... but got to admit they know how to make high quality stallions
Thanks Thomas ...yes this is a premium bike :)
I see the 2022 version is a bit lower. Wonder if it's worth paying a bit more for that? I just saw the gray one in the flesh with top box and it looks fantastic. Better weather protection on Forza 750 though, but this would be more fun. Hmmmm.
Yes though choice ☺️
It's a shame that they won't be sold here in the US. I would have loved to own one. Instead I recently purchased a 2023 Honda NC-750XD pretty much the same thing just not as off road capable.
I don't know why I want one of these, but it's a big NO for the US. Maybe they'll send it over this way once they get cruise available :)
Another great review by Mark.
Thanks Brian :)
Mark loved the review I’m thinking of one of these as a second bike for my wife and I that way I can pull the rear pegs off my other motorcycle and it will be truly mine anyways I don’t believe I caught the price of this motorcycle but this is the Second review I’ve seen On it the first one was by lamb chop or Mr. Fish can’t remember and I do prefer to call it a motorcycle instead of a scooter. I guess the other question I have is the maintenance intervals that you stated are they in kilometers or miles and how much it costs keep up the good work I love watching yourChannel
Hi Keith 8000 mile service intervals
£10849 list but I'm sure there are deals available
Glad you enjoyed it
Cheers mark
The 350 appears to have been announced for next year - that will be interesting to see
Sounds great 👍
Great report. So good in fact i have decided to buy one to go along side my DCT Wing.
Thanks Bob ... great choice
Regards mark
Saludos desde Colombia.
Thanks so much by the review!!
Hace un tiempo que encargué la mia, un par de meses atras y cada vez tengo más ganas de tenerla en mis manos y poderla sentir ronroneando con su potente motor 😊
great review...would be good metalic blue,or in red.aswell.if you could order anycolour.
great video, thanks...looks EURO 5 gear ratio doesn't affect overtaking ability dramatically...longer 456 gear....very likely my next bike!...yep, absence of cruise control for that money is a shame
Yes ...cruise would be great on a bike like this :)
I like it.. It seems very practical and easy to wash clean compared to my R1200GSA.
Thanks for the comment Phil
Genuinely looked at getting one of these but yes no cruise control!! And at 5ft 8" I also wasn't flat footed either, maybe the model after this they may lower or slim the seat down and put the cruise control on and fit heated grips as standard. I know have a triumph 900 Gt Pro and very pleased with it. Jim
Thanks for the comment jim ...can't go wrong with the triumph 900
Great choice:)
Nice review..bike seems good but abit pricey compared to nc750x dct...
Yes Keith I'd probably go for the nc750x dct which is much cheaper :)
Cheers mark
Nice review Mark I have thought about getting one of these strange concept bit of a bike dressed up as a scooter but not quite one or the other👍
Yes strange machine but it works very well :)
man idk why they dont bring this to the US. we got some dinky lite version of this.
That's a shame tommy ..I would have thought these would sell really well in the us
Regards mark
I've been looking forward to this review. Thanks Mark.
Thanks my pleasure :)
@@markpulling12 so what do u like more this or the tmax 560
@@markpulling12 would u get this or the tmax 560
Great review, I’m looking at one of these great bikes, also looking at the Honda integra 700/750 have you reviewed either of these mark?
Hi Chris no sorry not those but yes to the brilliant nc750dct :)
@@markpulling12 yup the nc750dct is on list as well, had the manual version on loan from ins company last month following an accident on my tiger 800 (not my fault lol) great bit if kit but ready for auto now 😊
Coming off a St 1300.....Literally ! 😂..This is my new purchase next spring. Impressive. Great review Mark.
Thanks Niall you're going to love it
Regards mark
Mark, good review and covers most of my need to knows. You mentioned cruise control which is a glaring omission but also heated grips. Not standard and massively expensive and a total rip-off costing several hundred pounds to buy and fit. This should be standard on a bike of this type and price. Oxfords are an alternative but look messy and tacked on. Which they are!
Thanks for the comment
Yes I know re oxfords ...they are cheap and effective but look a bit tacked on ...I like the factory look
The Yamaha oe heated grips on the tracer 9 gt are very slick
Regards mark
Heated grips are an optional extra operated in the menu with four levels of heat at a cost of £320 plus fitting. I have the Forza 750.
Very good video, I am going to buy this soon in Thailand, it retails here at 9000 pounds, I like the silver colour the best, thanks for the review
No problem Patrick
My pleasure
You may like & prefer the new Forza 750 when it arrives in Thailand mate
@@sirikulsomsuwan thanks I will check out any reviews
Great review thanks! Still not in the US. :-( Yes, Mr. Honda, cruise control and US availability please.
Hi Mark, Another very extensive Review covered everything 👏👏👏 looks a lovely Bike, but I think I prefer the Forza , as you say Great fir Touring, one up. Look forward to your next review 👍👍👍🏍🏍
Thanks David yes it was great to ride :)
Love this bike, wish it built slimmer for easy manoeuvring through traffics
Thanks for the comment hati :)
Very nice review. Looks like Honda is marketing this for those not wanting a scooter but don't want a full blown motorcycle.
Thanks David 😊
I'm riding a T7 at the moment, love it, but I'd have one of those if I was shorter, it's a great idea other than far too expensive for what it is (to my mind at least)
Well thought out and clear review as we've come to expect. 10/10
Thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
Great review Mark.This bike sounds awesome, but i think they should be a bit smaller/lower to suit older riders. And the price Wow.
Yes agreed ! It is a bit tall
Cheers mark
You need the silver wing 600cc , no shifting plenty fast enough ! Belt drive !
@@jefferyschirm4103 yes Jeffery I've always liked the look of the silverwing :)
Regards mark
@@jefferyschirm4103 had the silver wing from 04 till 13 newer disappointed me had arrow exhaust kn filter end power commander end hi flow pump 72 hp Dino woos a rocket
Good review, it is a good all rounder, good for the city, open roads, can carry a lots of stuff and i believe is very comfy. So who know, maybe one days it will appear in my garage :)
Thanks for the comment ...yes I recommend these are great bikes
Cheers mark
is there a lowering kit for the adv ? if there is then would be a perfect posture for smaller riders
Hi yes lowering kits are available ;)
Can see servicing costs being expensive ,given all the Tupperware that has to come off .
Yes Michael ....there are quite a few panels there
Cheers mark
Maybe not quite. If you find some servicing videos on the previous model you'll see that oil filter and spark plugs are accessible removing about 4 screws around the bash plate. And the air filter are a bit more, maybe 6, but some are plastic plugs easy to unplug, on the front center, below the handle bar.
@@zakit Thanks for that ,but a important factor when purchasing a bike servicing costs (hidden costs ) . We’re all told this bike does this this bike does that. But journalists and manufacturers never give you the true cost of ownership warts and all. In my experience customer after sales is poor at best from most manufacturers .
Great review. I like that you go into a review open minded, judging a bike by its merits, whilst some seem to make up mind at the concept and stick a certain bias. Like the bike but not the price tag. I like that it looks futuristic. I can see more bikes looking like this (especially when we go electric)
Yes something like this electric would be cool :)
Cheers mark
Hi Mark.
Great review as always
Love the Honda X ADV would you recommend buying one ?
I've a Kymco AK 550 Scooter a fantastic machine but fancy a change but have arthritic ankles so I'm unable to ride most bikes so has to be a scooter (type)
Look forward to more great reviews.
Steve
Hi Steve yes definitely it's my favorite mid size maxi scooter...very good suspension for our bumpy roads:)
Hi Mark which did you like best the Forza750 or this?
I always wonder who buys these, apparently they sell well, but I have only ever seen one out on the road. I suppose the question always get asked is it more of a scooter, or a motorbike? I like the look of them, and the concept.
Thanks Peter ....yes I hardly ever see them but apparently 30 000 have been sold worldwide .
Good fun to ride though :)
Cheers mark
not in UK you how guys on scooters are treated :)
Took one out last week I loved it
Excellent review and comments.
Thank You.
Thanks for your very nice content Mark. I'm looking for my 1st bike to make long journeys across Europe and be able to go on even on gravel roads. Would you recomend this or the Tenere 700 and why?
Cheers
Hi Paulo ...these are very good tourers , comfortable with good storage and alot cheaper than the tenere 700 I'd go for one of these
Best wishes mark
Hello mate. Thanks for tagging me in this. What a great bike this is. Love it. Think I'm going to start off on its baby brother though. The ADV 350.
It'll have enough power for what I need it for & as you told me earlier, the 350 doesn't really loose any power with a pillion on board, which is great.
I may step up to one of these in a few years.
Seems like a very accomplished bike, great review Mark.
Being 5'8" would that make much difference? Can you get a manual version or only DCT?Cruise control? Overall I'm very impressed as I do most of my riding around town. Good for some gravel road travel with fishing gear. Cruise control would make it a perfect expressway bike for short out of town trips.
Dct only on this one Andrew
Great review and another great bike from Honda.
Thanks James :)
Nice review sir, particularly as it is on my local roads! Will be definitely going down to Crescent to try it out.
Thanks Jamie ...yes I'm sure it's still there cheers mark
It looks great a very modern looking bike and a great review 👍
nice video sir keep it going. Q: x-adv's speedo indicates kph or mph? ty
Hi I'm in the uk so it's mph
Best regards mark
Im 6' 4" & am looking for a city commute to work bike & thinking this would be a perfect bike
I test rode this on Saturday, it was the previous model though with LCD non backlit display.
I'm sure the engine was the same.
It's a Beast! I found the throttle was extremely sensitive from standing start.
Didn't feel any heavier than my Forza 300.
We don't have the Forza 750 here yet.
Just wondering what the handling difference is as you've ridden them both?
Please reply and I'll subscribe.
Hi thanks for the comment...the handling felt a bit more plush on the adv .. probably because of its long travel forks. and 17 inch wheel..very sure footed and the Bridgestone tyres are good...the Forza is still nice but not designed for any off road
Regards mark
Cinsidering this from my current Multistrada 1200...I love it
Great review Mark.
Have a Forza 350 on order but I’m still deciding on if I’ve made the right decision. I like these and the NC
750. Hmmm decisions decisions 😂
The Forza 350 is brilliant ...I'd stick with it ... plenty fast enough for relaxed cruising and half the price of these :)
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I’m sure your right.
To many bikes to choose from.
Thanks for another cracking review
I would also stick with 350. I found the weight of the XDV pushing it around was significantly higher than my 300 Forza and as Mark says the 350 Forza is still a very relaxed
bike plus the 350 has an electric screen you can adjust on the move. Midi scooters of 300-400cc are the sweet spot for scooters before they have to adopt bigger twin engines and become motorcycles in scooter clothes. And then often have to have chains to keep oiled & maintained !
@@timdobby5365 yes I'd stick with the Forza 350 ...very capable :)
@@timdobby5365 thanks. I decided to stick with the Forza 350, hopefully take delivery soon
Another great ride review Mark, thank you. In your opinion, bearing in mind a mix of roads, A286, A3 and central London riding, which would be best? This or the Forza or the NC for commuting? The only real constraint I have is a 31" inside leg.
Hi Stuart they are all brilliant.... commuting only I'd go Forza but weekend fun rides as well I'd go for the nc750 cheers mark
@@markpulling12 not the X-adv then?
@@theyoungestboomer oh yes they are all perfect just the NC,750 comes in a manual version if you wanted a bit of geared fun at weekends say
But all are brilliant commuters
Cheers mark
Very detailed review. Very much a rider's review. Thumbs up
Many thanks 👍
Another great review Mark nice Honda and nice quality as usual.
Thanks David :)
Does it have anti roll back? We ride 2-up in hilly country so that would be a huge benefit for us in stop and go traffic!
No I'm sure it doesn't but it does have a handbrake
Cheers mark
Thinking of getting one of these.
You could put luggage on and carry a passenger
Nice comprehensive review mark.
Many thanks Mel
Cheers mark
mark been thinking about one and just like Hugh Gebbie said in his review its after many years on many differant bikes ... in the last few years iv had 2 tiger 800s one tiger 900 , that i did 300 miles on and didnt like it . tracer 900 and a 650 vstrom. I also have knee issues so this may be exactly whats needed ,, my biggest concern is how well they carry a passenger and i dont mean a 16 yer old girl thats 8st wet through :) no one ever takes a pillion on the reviews and for me its a must as my other half wants to be able to come out on the back from time to time
Hi Ian yes this would be a great choice...I did take a passenger with no problems but the seat and bike body is very wide at the back so it does push the legs out a bit but generally a great maxi scooter
Cheers mark
Hello can you please make a video on the 2022 version
Thanks great review
My pleasure Steve .... thanks
Between this and the Forza 750, which would you prefer (assuming you went for either)?
Hi Len .... really enjoyed both but I'd go for the nc750x dct. It's cheaper and the same engine :)
Best regards mark
Excellent review, thank you.
This is a kind of way more expensive NC750X, with a better fork one more disc and caliper and probably, a better shock on rear.
greetings Mark...awesome review 👏
Thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
1:06 Very clever of Honda to get a V twin sound out of a Parallel twin🤪🤪
Hi Mark, Can't believe I'm considering this, but I'm thinking of trading in my Harley Davidson for a scooter.😮
I recently rode a Yamaha tech max and absolutely loved it.Automatic and loaded with technology.I recently asked your advice on preference between the Forza and the tmax and you preferred the tmax, by a small margin.
Another bike has come forward and I know you have ridden it as well........Honda X adv.
Would you spend your own money on that rather than a tmax?
I was due to ride the X adv yesterday for comparison but decided to cancel due to poor weather.
Another opinion from someone who has ridden all of them would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Mark.
Hi Diane yes another fantastic bike ...but don't think I'd be going off. road at all on a scooter...but it would make a great machine for poor UK roads ..but my choice would still be a T Max...560;...that really is a superb machine I found it very engaging to ride
Best wishes mark
Thanks Mark, I was hoping you would say that👍
Wanna buy a Harley 🤣🤣🤣
@@dianedownie5951 haha ..... enjoy your T Max Diane ;)
Hey Mark. The Facebook Honda Forza group is buzzing with news to expect a 350cc ADV. I will look forward to seeing your reviews when you get one to test ride. I'd be interested in it because I'm riding the Honda Forza 300cc but how will it do with old fart touring I wonder?
Hi yes will definitely be reviewing it :)
@@markpulling12 thank you for your reply.
May get cruise control by the 2030 edition... Shame on you honda....
No 750 for Australia only the 150, with our massive riding distances you have to wonder why?
Yes agreed peter ..strange ?
Cheers mark
Great video,, why is it we can get 100 ish miles to to gallon from these gr8 bikes .but we've in 2030 got to go to electric what will do maybe 50 to 80 miles a charge. Boris Yr a ...,.
Good point Darren ! These are so economical
Fine ADV scooter for wallowing around with no ground clearance and no storage. Of course you could put bags on it and make it wide as a car. LOL