Hi, i owned xmax 300 for four years, an drove 30k km with it. Now i bought a year old forza 750, with 3000km. All that i can say is that the bike is brilliant, it brings smile to my face every day. I drove friend's tmax 530 many times, and i can tell honda is much much better. No drama, more smooth, more relaxed, and more secure feeling. I Installer givi 56l top case, and two givi side cases 36l, set and ready for big trips. Cheers🙂
Another awesome review Mark thank you - colllected my Forza 750 today (used one with less than 2k on the clock) and absolutely love it. Enjoyable, informative review as usual - who needs a test ride when you're doing them for us! Keep up the good work 👍
i have been riding and testing both cars and motorcycles for years your reviews are real world what people need to know about potential purchases not just how fast it can go, but real world use great work .
I have the forza 750. My actual first Choice was the ADV 350, I loved the ADV 350 ... But, when I realized that it had a top speed of 155 (142 GPS) and the brakes we're basically non existant I said "No way!!!" I know and have known the dangers in bike riding from a horrific experienced 30 years ago, I had to go with the Forza 750 because it had brakes like you get on a real sports bike even a super sports bike.
Ride a Kymco 2012 Like 200 I and I am 78. These modern bikes are so sophisticated and beautiful, and ridder friendly they are just amazing and the prices do not seem out of line with the features offered. Need to get a end of life bike to make them fun and exciting, may add a few years they would be so enjoyable. Thanks for the reviews.
Good review Mark, although the Forza 750 is not for me. I have a Forza 350 which is a brilliant bike and I'm really happy with. The 750 seems to be a NC750 which Honda have played around with to call it a scooter. I can't see the point of spending 10 grand on a bike that does not have an adjustable windscreen, poor stowage, is relatively heavy and has a chain drive. I think Honda have missed a trick with this one and perhaps an uprated Forza based on the 350 would of been the way to go.
How is the rear suspension on the 350? I had the 300 for a while and it was really jarring over rough, potholed roads. The 750 is tempting due to better suspension and more poke but nearly twice the price? Decisions, decisions....
@@GJS-live hi I found it ok no problem...just nothing amazing .. I guess that's the downfall of just the basic twin shock set up on the 300/350s ....yes I get why you like the 750 suspension :)
@@GJS-live I find the stock rear suspension fine but many owner do an upgrade. For less £300 it is possible to improve the rear suspension with replacement shocks if that's your thing, 🙂 a lot cheaper than a 10 grand big Forza 😀
I think the important differentiation between scooter and motorbike is that a motorbike's swinging arm never carries the engine. Bodywork, automatic transmission or small wheels is not an exclusive feature that defines the difference. I'd say the Forza with its frame mounted engine is a motorbike with weather protection.
Good review Mark, thank you. I was torn between the Yamaha Tmax 560 Tech, the Honda X ADV 750 & this Honda Forza 750.. And I can honestly say now, I think this is the best out of all three. What a stunning little bike this is & with that DCT built in makes it an amazing bit of kit. Perfect for me this is & I think I'll definitely be purchasing one over the next 6 months. 😎👌🏽
hi. did you go ahead and buy the forza? I'm in the same situ right now. Forza 750 (have always had Hondas) OR Yamaha OR XADV? I'd love cruise control for longer journeys... thoughts?
Very impressed with the Honda Forza 750 I am currently on a Burgman 400 and back to bikes after 35 years and looking to upgrade already after 10 months so I think I will have to find a Forza to try out. Good review thank you.
@@GJS-live Hi The Burgy "was" a great bike and incredibly comfortable. It would certainly move on for a 400 and was not too bad two up. However in the end after looking at lots of reviews I finished up going back to a geared bike and bought a brand new Tracer 700 which is actually exactly the same as the 2021 Tracer 7 but a 2020 model. I was also tempted by the Honda NC750 DCT but after speaking to a mate who had one for a while I went with the Tracer. Mark did a really good review on the Tracer 7 and it swayed it. The reason I went back to ageared bike was I just wanted a bit more oomph on the overtakes as my wife has decided she likes bikes and wants to do a bit of touring "much to my surprise" and the Tracer ticked all the boxes. It is great as a solo ride and fine two up as my wife is very petite and to be honest probably the best pillion I have ever had. My mate who had the NC750 DCT for a while had also gone to a Tracer 700 and he said the Honda was a bit under powered and a bit uninspiring. I hope you find the right bike for you and would love to know what you get and what you think of it.
@@johnbateman3244 Thanks for replying. Yeh, the Tracer is a great machine, the reviews of the newer ones are excellent. My main bike is a GS but I find that overkill for nipping about in town and some days I just want something simple with storage options. I have a V7 as well but I don't want to 'deface' that beauty with a top box! TBH, I should probably just stop watching YT reviews as they make me want new bikes. The Forza 350 or Burg 400 makes more sense for what I need but I do like the idea of this bigger more powerful scoot for relaxed B road stuff. Used prices hold up well. They want £5K for a mint 2019 Burgman. I can get a new one for £5999 so why would I take the chance? I love the Tmax looks too but v expensive for a 2nd bike. ! One thing that has come to light is service intervals and no Yam or Suzuki dealer in my city. 5 hour round trip but I have a great local Honda dealer and the Forzas have excellent 8000-mile service intervals so I suspect it'll be a Forza. Oh, and I saw the grey X Adv in the flesh yesterday...wow! Cheers
Can't help feeling that Honda missed a trick (and sales) by not having a final belt drive. It really is a revamped Honda Integra which never was a big seller. A 300c scooter would be a much more practical choice with its adequate performance, better underseat storage, and clean final drive. However, it's nice to have choice of different bikes and what one rider dismisses another falls in love with.
I’ve got an NC750X and have fallen in love with the DCT. So much so my other manual bikes aren’t getting a look in at the mo. It’s just so easy to ride
Hello Mark, I've seen several of your videos and I'm watching this one (from the future) 2024 because I just bought a second hand Forza 750 and your videos are very comprehensive, there isn't a single detail you miss..
I have an NC750x in my livery and love it. The Forza looks like it has the same engine (with the DCT). Great review, it looks very comfortable and great you can stretch your legs out. 👍
The trouble with this (unlike the 350) is that it is chain drive which for me rather defeats one of the main benefits of a scooter i.e. no chain maintenance. I have a Forza 300 by the way and it is fab.
Thanks for that. I'm looking for a way to keep riding,with an arthritic hip. I can't kick my leg over the saddle anymore. I might be able to ease my leg across that middle engine tunnel ???
you do great reviews Mark. I have at the moment honda a d v 350 , vespa gts 300 .honda sh mode 125 , and last but not least honda zoomer 50 f i . I am 74 next march and mostly ride with my wife with her on her Vespa .I thought of swapping 3 of the bikes in for a used Forza 750 but apart from not wanting to go far would be heavy for me now . I had a T max 530 a couple of years ago but didnt keep it long although it was s nice machine.
I haven't ridden this one, but I test rode the original X-ADV (my current ride is a Yamaha Tmax). I wasn't overwhelmed with the X-ADV as I didn't like the engine character - its seemed vibey and burbley compared to the turbine smooth Tmax, and I was surprised that the super-duper hi-tech DCT gearbox didn't seem to add much to the riding experience over the very simple cheap CVT that the Tmax has! The X-ADV felt quite slow and ponderous, but I know it is deceptive as it out performs the Tmax - its all about the torque obviously. From video reviews of this Forza, I think that Honda have improved it compared to the last X-ADV - it sounds a bit less ponderous - its got a little more power, and I guess they've tweaked the electronics and the DCT to give it a more lively feel. I'm seriously considering a Forza to replace my current Tmax, but I still feel its a head vs heart thing. The Forza is probably the most sensible, but the Tmax is just such fun and it really gets to you!
Hi Mark, I fancy a Scooter after watching the Forza 750 you review, I have a bike license and I’ve had loads of big stuff. Which Scoot would you recommend?
Hi it's a bit more powerful than a tmax 58 hp ISH Vs the tmax 560 at 47hp ..I think 🤔 ..the engine is more relaxed better for cruising But the t max is better if you are looking at performance and handling it's amazing Cruising get the Forza Fun ...get the t max Best wishes mark
Very impressive machine comprehensively featured apart from cruise control. Should be an option. Biggest problem would be overcoming my own motorcycle prejudice and ribbing from friends if I bought one.
I have a bike (a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager 1700) and a scooter a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive (both no longer sold in Australia). I love both of them for different reasons but the one thing I would say is ride what you like - put aside any prejudices or preconceptions and take one for a spin. This one, the Yamaha TMAx, the Suzuki 650 if you can get one or any other maxi scooter. You'll be surprised once you hit the motorway. They easily keep up with all the big boys and are just as if not more comfortable. This one doesn't have cruise control which is a negative but then not a lot of other bikes do (the Suzuki doesn't but the Kawasaki does).
Never ridden a scoot or even looked at anything like this BUT I really like the look of this and could see myself getting one. The DCT is a perfect match for a scooter but this one is big enough to do proper open road speeds too. 👍
Yes its a nice maxi scooter but it comes up short when you compare it to a Burgman 650 Executive. With the Burgman you get an adjustable electric operated wind screen, electric adjustable side mirrors, heated grips and seat and storage for two helmets. Power wise they are about the same, the same for gas mileage. I prefer creature comforts on my maxi scooter and went with a Burgman.
Very nice scooter but Luggage compartment should be able to fit two helmets like in other Forzas Chain instead of a belt seriously? Rear wheel could be an inch bigger Weighs a lot. Other than the above which I deem necessary following options would be nice Cruise control Heated seat and grips Electric wind screen
Great video Mark, thanks.. ~ I wish we could get this bike in the U.S. ! my Forza 300 was swiped a year ago and I'm struggling to find what bike is right for me.. this would be it but, well, Honda doesn't think we like scoots in N. America.
I’m going for a Burgman650 executive , the Cadillac of scooters comfortably, reliable and has all the creature comforts , not perfect and it’s pig ugly but you can pick a low mileage bike up for 5 grand private and the Bergman is a tried and tested maxi scooter, I’m going to trade in my GTS 300 Vespa which gives me a terrible backache for the Burgman . Just because it’s the latest doesn’t mean it’s the greatest Great review ride safe . 😁🇬🇧🏍
I see below, someone saying Forza 350 is all you need .............. Well I'm trading my 350 in for a Forza 750. Recently did a tour of Ireland and some poorly surfaced roads were killing my back (even though I have upgraded YSS rear shocks). It's a by-product of having so much un-sprung weight on the rear wheel. The 750 has motorcycle rear suspension, which is far superior. Yes the downside is the size and weight, but the weight is low down and I hope i'm going to be fine with it (I'm 69). Love being able to shift my legs around on both of them.
Mark would you take Forza750 or Yamaha Tmax560 purely for comfort on our UK roads. I still consider adv350 based on your review, but Forza and Tmax have that extra power, and I guess, are comfier. Also, it looks like you had more space on Forza750 than Tmax. Cheers
Hi it's a auto clutch you can change gear manually using plus and minus paddle buttons ...it's very slick or you can just use the auto mode all very clever stuff Best wishes mark
Just can't see the advantage of this over the NC750- which is a lot cheaper, has the same amount of storage and better suspension. Also: non-adjustable screen, though the Forza 350 has one that's electrically operated? What's that about, Honda?
Nice review as usual Mark. I test rode the Yamaha Tmax, but didn't like the high seat, and the high, monotonous revs. It felt to me like a jet-ski on wheels, and not the kind of machine I would want to go any distance on, despite the cruise control and electric screen. I then test rode the Forza 750. I loved the low revving, torque laden engine, the great V-twin sound, the relaxing ride, and of course the amazing, and unique to Honda, dual clutch transmission. In other words all the things that you were impressed with in your review. And yes, I bought one, despite the lack of cruise control and electric screen, which I've had available on several BMW touring bikes and rarely used. Besides, at 5'-8'', the stock screen is perfect for me. I think the Honda Forza 750 is a great touring machine with good weather protection, and I'm looking forward to doing lots of miles on mine. Thanks Mark.
@@marksimpson5218 I'm sure ray will be along soon but I rode it for two hours and could have easily gone all day ...the engine is Very relaxed at speed Cheers mark
@@marksimpson5218 Hi Mark, I’m still running the Forza in and haven’t yet done any real distance. However, I’ve owned and toured on maxi scooters before and found them to be very suitable for long distances. Having done 300 miles on the Forza, I think it will prove to be the best yet. It’s very comfortable and very good on fuel. I think the engine was built for touring. The torque comes at very low revs, and it throbs and sounds like a 90 degree V twin, which makes for a very pleasant and enjoyable ride. I intended to visit some friends in the south of France as soon as the restrictions are lifted, without hesitation. You should try one.
Hopefully I'll get my licence in a couple of months time. Im the wrong side of 60 and will be looking for my first "big" bike. I was looking at a CB500X but the Forza seems to tick all the boxes for me. So what's the fundamental difference mechanically between a bike and a scooter? Surely more than just step-thro, no clutch and smaller wheels?
Most scooters have the engine mounted at the rear and the swingarm is bolted to the engine...whereas the Forza 750 is more conventional like a motorcycle with the engine out front between the frame cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thank you Mark. And as you said, chain drive too. This could be perfect for me to be honest, as after a stroke in February I'm finding it hard to lift my leg over even my CB125R! Now all I have to do is pass my tests and smuggle it into the shed before the Ayatollah suspects anything.
Have a CTX700 Dthe CTXCT and love it! Also, have a Yamaha Majesty 400 and love it too! For long rides = the Yamaha. Cruise with attitude,the CTX. If I could get the Integra/Forza in the US it would be my main bike.
Brilliant review Mark, having come from big adventure bikes to an Xmas 300 I get the maxi scoot thing. I’m looking at Forza 750 or the BMW C400 as my next bike at the end of the year, I mainly commute 10miles/day (lucky here in the south west) & runs (20mile) to the beach with my SUP surf /foil board 🤙 T he Forza 750 ticks a lot of boxes, decisions decisions
Sounds great Steve ...ha I kitesurf in Poole and the south coast too !!! Having ridden superbikes for 30 years i absolutely love maxi scooters for pottering about on ...you could even go long distance touring on then as they have good storage All the best mark
What "boxes" does it tick? One box might be that you are happy to shell out a ridiculous amount of cash for a machine that is costing you twice as much to buy, probably twice as much to maintain, and a lot more in fuel, yet it won't get you from A to B in any more comfort or speed than a similar scooter with half the power and half the weight.
Yamaha is contemplating sending the tmax 560 and if that gets here (the US) first Honda will loose my sale anyway. The TMAX 560 Techmax has all the things missing here with an adjustable windscreen 7.5 inches, heated seats and grips
@@markpulling12 with the missus on the back 750cc makes more sense but I bet the 560 would be fine. Really disappointed in Honda’s decision to not sell it here
Another great ride that won’t make it to the US even though markets are changing rapidly from big v twins to more manageable bikes. I’d gobble one of these up in a heartbeat.
@@markpulling12 Maxi-Scooters aren't as popular here. The largest engine you can find on most scooters is 400CC. There are exceptions, like the Suzuki Burgman Executive. If they ever decide to sell them here, I'll definitely be getting one. Have a great Weekend.
Think I'm right in saying that's basically the NC750X but in a scooter (ish) frame and with a few extra electrickery bits thrown on, albeit at a price? I finally managed to test ride the DCT version of the NCX the other day, courtesy of Bransons Motorcycles (Yeovil). I'd spoken to quite a few owners of the DCT bikes who had said they would never go back to manual so I was keen to give it a go. Personally, in the short time I had it, I didn't really get on with DCT. I preferred to have the feel and control of slipping a clutch, especially when pulling away. Maybe, in time I would get used to it but it wasn't for me. One other thing, When is a scooter not a scooter? When the engine is between your legs. Couldn't help thinking it's kinda' the worst of both worlds but, I've not ridden one so possibly a little unjust. Anyway, if you do get a chance, a comparison between this and NC DCT would be interesting. Oh, and hardly recognised any of those roads though well done for finding a bit of motorway round there not restricted to 50mph ;-)
Thanks Dave for the comment....yes it was the a272 road ...I've heard good things about the dct but I think I prefer CVT transmission on a scooter cheers mark
@@markpulling12 For what it's worth and feel free to delete as I'm just giving info. Bournemouth Honda have a NC750 (manual) Demonstrator and, as I said Yeovil have the DCT version demonstrator.
I think TMAX got used to ZERO competition for so many years that's why they're priced at a premium. The Kymco AK550 is practically a replica of the TMAX but at half the price and a lot faster.
Good review, sounds good too. This though is not a scooter, more an automatic motorcycle. Also for what it is I feel its far too expensive as are many of these so called maxi scoots. The problem is that once you go beyond 400cc its hard to have a larger engine connected by one bolt through the swingarm. I currently have a kymco xciting 400i. A true maxi scooter and £3.500 cheaper than this bike. I could not justify the extra layout for this. The kymco is more than capable of doing what I require and will quite happily cruise all day long at motorway speeds so touring is no problem. Also more storage as standard and I suspect better economy, cheaper insurance and running costs to boot. But each to their own I say. Again thank you for an informative review.
Thanks Phil ....yes 100% the 300/400 class is the best I think for maxi scooters...must try a kymco ...my current favorite is the Forza 350 Regards mark
@@markpulling12 I've heard good reports on both these scoots. 300 and 350cc Today we are spoilt for choice but not as much in this country where larger scoots are harder to sell. I ride motorcycles and scooters so I experience The best of both. I constantly watch the market for new machines which is why reviews such as yours are invaluable. Few dealers have scooters available to test ride so you take your chances. One scooter I am waiting for is a 310cc offering from a Chinese manufacture called zontes. This will be their first scooter. On paper it looks good and zontes have a growing reputation here in the UK although progress is painfully slow.
I'd look at a Kymco, trouble is finding one. Autotrader search just now shows one 550? No dealers in Scotland I know of either. Mind you, Yamaha and Suzuki nearest dealers are over 100 miles away but Honda on my doorstep so will probably end up with a Forza ....
Fit this with footpegs rather than footboards and I would be interested... For my height, scooter floorboards are always to high and too far forward. As an NC750X owner I can highly recommend this engine to everyone. I wish the belt drive was available on the NC750X as well.
Hi, do you think limited to de A2 license( 48 hp) is enough power for its weight?, i have seen a few reviews here in Spain but any quesitions about it. I ve only the A2 license. Thank you very much
@@markpulling12 just saw your review of the Rebel 1100. Newly subbed. Seriously considering either the new NC750X or the rebel just comes down to Rebel's style and performance vs cost to buy and MPG of the NC750X. Looking forward to your take on the new NC!
You'll still get just as wet with an adjustable screen as non adjustable really ...maybe the adjustable one can direct the wind and rain blast away from your visor for better visibility but from my experience you'll still get wet :) Cheers mark
Nice review,must be the only one on English at the moment. I love honda but I really dont get what is the whole point of chain drive on a maxi scooter? They came up with DCT which is great on all bikes,but chain is pointless!
Surely a more shape compatible top-case could have been found. A lot of care and effort has gone into designing a lovely sleek machine and the appearance has then been ruined by the addition of an incongruous cube. Nice scooter. Too much engine and insufficient room under the seat. Shame about the chain drive.
Hi no ...didn't get into that ..some Hondas just have a simple button on the left side ...I guess if you can its hidden deep in the riding modes and settings maybe a manual mode Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I think manual is just for shifring gears, on the Xadv 2020 there was another button just to cancel traction control, guess if setting user mode this can be adjusted.
@@markpulling12 davao...cebu....palawan....bohol and sibuyan island..such a beautiful place white sand beach perfect for relaxation away from noise.you are very much welcome mark. come and visit Philippines its more fun.
Well, it's not really a "scooter". Basically, it's a bike in a scooter dress. I've bought it 2 months ago and did 2500 kilometers so far. The feeling during the ride is exactly like on a real motorcycle, but a lot more comfortable and with wheather protection. I love it!
@@tiernangorduin7975Well, the longest tour I made with my girlfriend was something about 4-5 hours. And we were fine. However, my gf has a hight of 160 cm, so she is quite small and therefore felt real comfortable. 😉
if anyone is considering buying one of these.it might be best to get a faraday pouch to put your key in. anyone who see you get off your scooter can get all they need using a mob/phone and nick ya scooter while your on your walk about.
Ride by wire throttle on the Forza, NC750x, xADV 750, but not one cruise control among them. I'll wait, Honda, because I know you'll sprinkle that in later.
Hi, i owned xmax 300 for four years, an drove 30k km with it. Now i bought a year old forza 750, with 3000km. All that i can say is that the bike is brilliant, it brings smile to my face every day.
I drove friend's tmax 530 many times, and i can tell honda is much much better. No drama, more smooth, more relaxed, and more secure feeling. I Installer givi 56l top case, and two givi side cases 36l, set and ready for big trips. Cheers🙂
За сколько купил брат и где?
Another awesome review Mark thank you - colllected my Forza 750 today (used one with less than 2k on the clock) and absolutely love it. Enjoyable, informative review as usual - who needs a test ride when you're doing them for us! Keep up the good work 👍
Many thanks 👍
Great choice with the Forza
i have been riding and testing both cars and motorcycles for years your reviews are real world what people need to know about potential purchases not just how fast it can go, but real world use great work .
Many thanks Alan 🙂😁
Ive tried this bike and its a dream machine, its such a good all rounder, I had to settle for the Forza 350. Its just a matter of time for the upgrade
I have the forza 750. My actual first Choice was the ADV 350, I loved the ADV 350 ... But, when I realized that it had a top speed of 155 (142 GPS) and the brakes we're basically non existant I said "No way!!!" I know and have known the dangers in bike riding from a horrific experienced 30 years ago, I had to go with the Forza 750 because it had brakes like you get on a real sports bike even a super sports bike.
Ride a Kymco 2012 Like 200 I and I am 78. These modern bikes are so sophisticated and beautiful, and ridder friendly they are just amazing and the prices do not seem out of line with the features offered. Need to get a end of life bike to make them fun and exciting, may add a few years they would be so enjoyable. Thanks for the reviews.
Good review Mark, although the Forza 750 is not for me. I have a Forza 350 which is a brilliant bike and I'm really happy with. The 750 seems to be a NC750 which Honda have played around with to call it a scooter. I can't see the point of spending 10 grand on a bike that does not have an adjustable windscreen, poor stowage, is relatively heavy and has a chain drive. I think Honda have missed a trick with this one and perhaps an uprated Forza based on the 350 would of been the way to go.
Thanks yes the Forza 350 is definitely the one I'd buy ;)
How is the rear suspension on the 350? I had the 300 for a while and it was really jarring over rough, potholed roads. The 750 is tempting due to better suspension and more poke but nearly twice the price? Decisions, decisions....
@@GJS-live hi I found it ok no problem...just nothing amazing .. I guess that's the downfall of just the basic twin shock set up on the 300/350s ....yes I get why you like the 750 suspension :)
@@GJS-live I find the stock rear suspension fine but many owner do an upgrade. For less £300 it is possible to improve the rear suspension with replacement shocks if that's your thing, 🙂 a lot cheaper than a 10 grand big Forza 😀
Forza 350 на вариаторе?
I think the important differentiation between scooter and motorbike is that a motorbike's swinging arm never carries the engine. Bodywork, automatic transmission or small wheels is not an exclusive feature that defines the difference. I'd say the Forza with its frame mounted engine is a motorbike with weather protection.
Demo that bike and I was so impressed..came back and bought one ..
Haha that's definitely the way to do it John !
Cheers mark
im buyd this bike size 350 CC 2 weeks ago , impressed by that bike also....
Good review Mark, thank you.
I was torn between the Yamaha Tmax 560 Tech, the Honda X ADV 750 & this Honda Forza 750.. And I can honestly say now, I think this is the best out of all three. What a stunning little bike this is & with that DCT built in makes it an amazing bit of kit.
Perfect for me this is & I think I'll definitely be purchasing one over the next 6 months. 😎👌🏽
Many thanks 👍 great choice
@@markpulling12 😎🤝🏾🤝🏾
hi. did you go ahead and buy the forza? I'm in the same situ right now. Forza 750 (have always had Hondas) OR Yamaha OR XADV? I'd love cruise control for longer journeys... thoughts?
@life_in_the_wild2573
Excellent review
Never seen the leg room review before
An absolute must 🙌 wow thank you so much
We love your reviews from Australia 🇦🇺
Very keen to compare this with the T Max 560.
Thanks Stevie t max 560 coming soon :)
@@markpulling12 Thank you
Very impressed with the Honda Forza 750 I am currently on a Burgman 400 and back to bikes after 35 years and looking to upgrade already after 10 months so I think I will have to find a Forza to try out. Good review thank you.
Thanks John yes highly recommend it :)
Regards mark
Hi John, is the Burg 400 lacking or just fancy a change/more power? I'm still trying to decide, Burgman 400, Forza 350/750, Tmax.
@@GJS-live Hi The Burgy "was" a great bike and incredibly comfortable. It would certainly move on for a 400 and was not too bad two up. However in the end after looking at lots of reviews I finished up going back to a geared bike and bought a brand new Tracer 700 which is actually exactly the same as the 2021 Tracer 7 but a 2020 model. I was also tempted by the Honda NC750 DCT but after speaking to a mate who had one for a while I went with the Tracer. Mark did a really good review on the Tracer 7 and it swayed it. The reason I went back to ageared bike was I just wanted a bit more oomph on the overtakes as my wife has decided she likes bikes and wants to do a bit of touring "much to my surprise" and the Tracer ticked all the boxes. It is great as a solo ride and fine two up as my wife is very petite and to be honest probably the best pillion I have ever had. My mate who had the NC750 DCT for a while had also gone to a Tracer 700 and he said the Honda was a bit under powered and a bit uninspiring. I hope you find the right bike for you and would love to know what you get and what you think of it.
@@johnbateman3244 Thanks for replying. Yeh, the Tracer is a great machine, the reviews of the newer ones are excellent. My main bike is a GS but I find that overkill for nipping about in town and some days I just want something simple with storage options. I have a V7 as well but I don't want to 'deface' that beauty with a top box! TBH, I should probably just stop watching YT reviews as they make me want new bikes. The Forza 350 or Burg 400 makes more sense for what I need but I do like the idea of this bigger more powerful scoot for relaxed B road stuff. Used prices hold up well. They want £5K for a mint 2019 Burgman. I can get a new one for £5999 so why would I take the chance? I love the Tmax looks too but v expensive for a 2nd bike. ! One thing that has come to light is service intervals and no Yam or Suzuki dealer in my city. 5 hour round trip but I have a great local Honda dealer and the Forzas have excellent 8000-mile service intervals so I suspect it'll be a Forza. Oh, and I saw the grey X Adv in the flesh yesterday...wow! Cheers
Can't help feeling that Honda missed a trick (and sales) by not having a final belt drive. It really is a revamped Honda Integra which never was a big seller. A 300c scooter would be a much more practical choice with its adequate performance, better underseat storage, and clean final drive. However, it's nice to have choice of different bikes and what one rider dismisses another falls in love with.
I’ve got an NC750X and have fallen in love with the DCT. So much so my other manual bikes aren’t getting a look in at the mo. It’s just so easy to ride
I'd like an nc750 x dct myself
Regards mark
Hello Mark, I've seen several of your videos and I'm watching this one (from the future) 2024 because I just bought a second hand Forza 750 and your videos are very comprehensive, there isn't a single detail you miss..
Thanks mike I appreciate that 😁
Cheers mark
Hi Mark, Just found the forza 750 review and superb as always. Thanks John
Thanks John :)
I have an NC750x in my livery and love it. The Forza looks like it has the same engine (with the DCT). Great review, it looks very comfortable and great you can stretch your legs out. 👍
Thanks I was very impressed.... lovely engine very relaxed
Cheers mark
The trouble with this (unlike the 350) is that it is chain drive which for me rather defeats one of the main benefits of a scooter i.e. no chain maintenance. I have a Forza 300 by the way and it is fab.
I'd agree rob the 350 is brilliant
It would be my choice :)
Cheers mark
Just got mine a couple of weeks ago paid 22k usd in Israel extremely happy with it so far I’m pretty big 1.94/98kg fits me perfect 🤩
Thanks Michael sounds great 😁 💯
Thanks for that. I'm looking for a way to keep riding,with an arthritic hip. I can't kick my leg over the saddle anymore. I might be able to ease my leg across that middle engine tunnel ???
you do great reviews Mark. I have at the moment honda a d v 350 , vespa gts 300 .honda sh mode 125 , and last but not least honda zoomer 50 f i . I am 74 next march and mostly ride with my wife with her on her Vespa .I thought of swapping 3 of the bikes in for a used Forza 750 but apart from not wanting to go far would be heavy for me now . I had a T max 530 a couple of years ago but didnt keep it long although it was s nice machine.
Many thanks John great comment
Best regards mark
I haven't ridden this one, but I test rode the original X-ADV (my current ride is a Yamaha Tmax). I wasn't overwhelmed with the X-ADV as I didn't like the engine character - its seemed vibey and burbley compared to the turbine smooth Tmax, and I was surprised that the super-duper hi-tech DCT gearbox didn't seem to add much to the riding experience over the very simple cheap CVT that the Tmax has! The X-ADV felt quite slow and ponderous, but I know it is deceptive as it out performs the Tmax - its all about the torque obviously. From video reviews of this Forza, I think that Honda have improved it compared to the last X-ADV - it sounds a bit less ponderous - its got a little more power, and I guess they've tweaked the electronics and the DCT to give it a more lively feel. I'm seriously considering a Forza to replace my current Tmax, but I still feel its a head vs heart thing. The Forza is probably the most sensible, but the Tmax is just such fun and it really gets to you!
Well said Tim ...I love the tmax :)
Cheers mark
I really like how this gentleman reviews. Nice job with a lot of important information.
Many thanks arob :)
Hi Mark, I fancy a Scooter after watching the Forza 750 you review, I have a bike license and I’ve had loads of big stuff.
Which Scoot would you recommend?
Hi I'd recommend the Forza 350 that's my favorite...all things considered....price weight performance etc
Cheers mark
Fantastic review.
How would you take this over the yamaha tmax???
And is this Forza 750 faster? Acceleration? And top end ? Then a tmax 530/560
Hi it's a bit more powerful than a tmax 58 hp ISH Vs the tmax 560 at 47hp ..I think 🤔 ..the engine is more relaxed better for cruising
But the t max is better if you are looking at performance and handling it's amazing
Cruising get the Forza
Fun ...get the t max
Best wishes mark
Great review, Mark. As always.
Very impressive machine comprehensively featured apart from cruise control. Should be an option. Biggest problem would be overcoming my own motorcycle prejudice and ribbing from friends if I bought one.
I have a bike (a Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager 1700) and a scooter a Suzuki Burgman 650 AN Executive (both no longer sold in Australia). I love both of them for different reasons but the one thing I would say is ride what you like - put aside any prejudices or preconceptions and take one for a spin. This one, the Yamaha TMAx, the Suzuki 650 if you can get one or any other maxi scooter. You'll be surprised once you hit the motorway. They easily keep up with all the big boys and are just as if not more comfortable. This one doesn't have cruise control which is a negative but then not a lot of other bikes do (the Suzuki doesn't but the Kawasaki does).
Never ridden a scoot or even looked at anything like this BUT I really like the look of this and could see myself getting one. The DCT is a perfect match for a scooter but this one is big enough to do proper open road speeds too. 👍
Hi Jon ....yes the bigger ones like this are really good for long distance touring cheers mark
Yes its a nice maxi scooter but it comes up short when you compare it to a Burgman 650 Executive. With the Burgman you get an adjustable electric operated wind screen, electric adjustable side mirrors, heated grips and seat and storage for two helmets. Power wise they are about the same, the same for gas mileage. I prefer creature comforts on my maxi scooter and went with a Burgman.
Thanks for the comment Patrick....yes I've always been impressed with the burgman 650 ...shame they have stopped making it now regards mark
Very nice scooter but
Luggage compartment should be able to fit two helmets like in other Forzas
Chain instead of a belt seriously?
Rear wheel could be an inch bigger
Weighs a lot.
Other than the above which I deem necessary following options would be nice
Cruise control
Heated seat and grips
Electric wind screen
Thanks Lucas ...yes definitely needs belt drive :)
Didn't think I would but quite liked that, good review Mark.
Thanks Alan ,!
I was given the Honda Integra when my bike was stolen. Honestly, it was an amazing comfortable ride. So tempted to switch to a big scooter
Какая максимальная скорость у тебя по GPS?
Great video Mark, thanks.. ~ I wish we could get this bike in the U.S. ! my Forza 300 was swiped a year ago and I'm struggling to find what bike is right for me.. this would be it but, well, Honda doesn't think we like scoots in N. America.
Ah that's a shame what about the yamaha t max ? Cheers mark
I’m going for a Burgman650 executive , the Cadillac of scooters comfortably, reliable and has all the creature comforts , not perfect and it’s pig ugly but you can pick a low mileage bike up for 5 grand private and the Bergman is a tried and tested maxi scooter, I’m going to trade in my GTS 300 Vespa which gives me a terrible backache for the Burgman .
Just because it’s the latest doesn’t mean it’s the greatest
Great review ride safe . 😁🇬🇧🏍
Weird Honda Forza 750 and Honda X-ADV 750 basically the same vehicles? Both around $10k I believe?
I see below, someone saying Forza 350 is all you need ..............
Well I'm trading my 350 in for a Forza 750. Recently did a tour of Ireland and some poorly surfaced roads were killing my back (even though I have upgraded YSS rear shocks). It's a by-product of having so much un-sprung weight on the rear wheel. The 750 has motorcycle rear suspension, which is far superior. Yes the downside is the size and weight, but the weight is low down and I hope i'm going to be fine with it (I'm 69).
Love being able to shift my legs around on both of them.
Mark would you take Forza750 or Yamaha Tmax560 purely for comfort on our UK roads. I still consider adv350 based on your review, but Forza and Tmax have that extra power, and I guess, are comfier. Also, it looks like you had more space on Forza750 than Tmax. Cheers
Hi Chris yes just for comfort I'd take the Forza 750 it's a very sizeable machine with amazing cruising potential:)
Cheers mark
Good review. I like it. Shame you couldn’t do a wet weather ride to see what the protection is like. Maybe next time.
Hi Mark hope you are well, if you can cast your mind back did you find the Forza 350 seat a better reach than the 750??
Hi David no I think they are both the same reach to the ground
Cheers mark
How does manual work if there is no clutch? Old motorcycle rider looking to switch to a maxi scooter.
Hi it's a auto clutch you can change gear manually using plus and minus paddle buttons ...it's very slick or you can just use the auto mode all very clever stuff
Best wishes mark
Have you done a review for the X-ADV 750 Mark? Or just the 750 Forza up to yet?
Here you go ☺️
ua-cam.com/video/Gzgwut97TUo/v-deo.html
Just can't see the advantage of this over the NC750- which is a lot cheaper, has the same amount of storage and better suspension. Also: non-adjustable screen, though the Forza 350 has one that's electrically operated? What's that about, Honda?
Yes Paul I did wonder why no electric screen ? Hmmm
I agree don’t understand why the screen is not electric??
Nice review as usual Mark. I test rode the Yamaha Tmax, but didn't like the high seat, and the high, monotonous revs. It felt to me like a jet-ski on wheels, and not the kind of machine I would want to go any distance on, despite the cruise control and electric screen. I then test rode the Forza 750. I loved the low revving, torque laden engine, the great V-twin sound, the relaxing ride, and of course the amazing, and unique to Honda, dual clutch transmission. In other words all the things that you were impressed with in your review. And yes, I bought one, despite the lack of cruise control and electric screen, which I've had available on several BMW touring bikes and rarely used. Besides, at 5'-8'', the stock screen is perfect for me. I think the Honda Forza 750 is a great touring machine with good weather protection, and I'm looking forward to doing lots of miles on mine. Thanks Mark.
That sounds great Ray ....yes what an engine on the Forza great choice
All the best mark
Ray, how good are these at long distance touring?
@@marksimpson5218 I'm sure ray will be along soon but I rode it for two hours and could have easily gone all day ...the engine is Very relaxed at speed Cheers mark
@@marksimpson5218 Hi Mark, I’m still running the Forza in and haven’t yet done any real distance. However, I’ve owned and toured on maxi scooters before and found them to be very suitable for long distances. Having done 300 miles on the Forza, I think it will prove to be the best yet. It’s very comfortable and very good on fuel. I think the engine was built for touring. The torque comes at very low revs, and it throbs and sounds like a 90 degree V twin, which makes for a very pleasant and enjoyable ride.
I intended to visit some friends in the south of France as soon as the restrictions are lifted, without hesitation.
You should try one.
Thanks Ray, I will try one.
Well done as always, I guess we will see this scooter in the USA in about 2 years.
Thanks for the comment Ronald ... shame it's not available in the USA yet
I sure hope so.
I really want this bike so bad, but in Indonesia Honda didn't sell 750cc version, just 250cc.
Hi ... thanks for the comment
That's a shame it's not available in Indonesia
Cheers mark
Hopefully I'll get my licence in a couple of months time. Im the wrong side of 60 and will be looking for my first "big" bike. I was looking at a CB500X but the Forza seems to tick all the boxes for me. So what's the fundamental difference mechanically between a bike and a scooter? Surely more than just step-thro, no clutch and smaller wheels?
Most scooters have the engine mounted at the rear and the swingarm is bolted to the engine...whereas the Forza 750 is more conventional like a motorcycle with the engine out front between the frame cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Thank you Mark. And as you said, chain drive too. This could be perfect for me to be honest, as after a stroke in February I'm finding it hard to lift my leg over even my CB125R! Now all I have to do is pass my tests and smuggle it into the shed before the Ayatollah suspects anything.
What is your go to scooter? Which one would you pick if you have to pick only one? Thanks
Money no object I'd go for the tmax 560 :)
EXCELLENT review.
10/10.
10/10.
Thank You.
Comparions with NC750X DCT? Same? Faster? Slower? Differently tuned? Better handling?
Hi different but still good handling as it's scooter based ...same performance personally I'd go for the nc750 and save money
Regards mark
great reviews Mark thank you keep it going
Thanks Alan 😀
Agree, it’s crying out for cruise control - is it available as an option?
Hi Clive ....no I don't think so :(
Best regards mark
Have a CTX700 Dthe CTXCT and love it! Also, have a Yamaha Majesty 400 and love it too! For long rides = the Yamaha. Cruise with attitude,the CTX. If I could get the Integra/Forza in the US it would be my main bike.
Cheers greg
What a marvelous review, thank you.
How much would it cost if it had all the toys the Tmax has ? i'll start with £285 for Honda's heated grips !
Good point ....!
Hi mark. As you have rode the t max which do you prefer cheers
Hi Trevor tmax for me it's a bit more sporty and fun but the Forza is the better tourer :)
@@markpulling12 thanks I agree also love the look of the t max
Please test ride the Honda PCX 125 2021 as a lot of us are just starting out on scooters and would like your input.
Ok James Id love too I'll see if I can get hold of a demo
Cheers mark
Sport mode sounds more grunty, I like it. What is the speed limit on the motor ways?
Hi Steve it's 70 mph here in the uk
Thanks for this great review. It's a lovely bike.
Brilliant review Mark, having come from big adventure bikes to an Xmas 300 I get the maxi scoot thing. I’m looking at Forza 750 or the BMW C400 as my next bike at the end of the year, I mainly commute 10miles/day (lucky here in the south west) & runs (20mile) to the beach with my SUP surf /foil board 🤙 T he Forza 750 ticks a lot of boxes, decisions decisions
Sounds great Steve ...ha I kitesurf in Poole and the south coast too !!!
Having ridden superbikes for 30 years i absolutely love maxi scooters for pottering about on ...you could even go long distance touring on then as they have good storage
All the best mark
What "boxes" does it tick? One box might be that you are happy to shell out a ridiculous amount of cash for a machine that is costing you twice as much to buy, probably twice as much to maintain, and a lot more in fuel, yet it won't get you from A to B in any more comfort or speed than a similar scooter with half the power and half the weight.
Yamaha is contemplating sending the tmax 560 and if that gets here (the US) first Honda will loose my sale anyway. The TMAX 560 Techmax has all the things missing here with an adjustable windscreen 7.5 inches, heated seats and grips
Thanks for the comment
Regards mark
@@markpulling12 with the missus on the back 750cc makes more sense but I bet the 560 would be fine. Really disappointed in Honda’s decision to not sell it here
@@bfarm44 yes that's a shame....you'd think it would be a top seller
My thoughts on it? I want one, but Honda won't sell one to me because I live in the US
Ah that's a shame William... strange Honda don't sell it in the USA
Regards mark
Hi! Would you take this or new tmax. 85% city, 15% touring?
Hi Adam if it's 85 % city I would go for the xmax 300 or Forza 350
But I prefer the tmax to the Forza 750 :)
Сколько стоит такой в евро или баксах? DTC автомат такой же как на NC750?
Another great ride that won’t make it to the US even though markets are changing rapidly from big v twins to more manageable bikes. I’d gobble one of these up in a heartbeat.
Thanks for the comment regards mark
why didnt they put electric screen and diffrent mirrors.as the 350 forza...the adv looks great aswell :)
Hi the 350 Forza does have an electric screen :).
Regards mark
I'd love to get one of these, but they aren't sold in the US. I'm still riding a 2003 Honda Silverwing.
That's a shame ... thought Honda would sell lots of these in the us
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Maxi-Scooters aren't as popular here. The largest engine you can find on most scooters is 400CC. There are exceptions, like the Suzuki Burgman Executive. If they ever decide to sell them here, I'll definitely be getting one. Have a great Weekend.
@@kevin34ct you too !
Think I'm right in saying that's basically the NC750X but in a scooter (ish) frame and with a few extra electrickery bits thrown on, albeit at a price?
I finally managed to test ride the DCT version of the NCX the other day, courtesy of Bransons Motorcycles (Yeovil). I'd spoken to quite a few owners of the DCT bikes who had said they would never go back to manual so I was keen to give it a go. Personally, in the short time I had it, I didn't really get on with DCT. I preferred to have the feel and control of slipping a clutch, especially when pulling away. Maybe, in time I would get used to it but it wasn't for me.
One other thing, When is a scooter not a scooter? When the engine is between your legs. Couldn't help thinking it's kinda' the worst of both worlds but, I've not ridden one so possibly a little unjust.
Anyway, if you do get a chance, a comparison between this and NC DCT would be interesting.
Oh, and hardly recognised any of those roads though well done for finding a bit of motorway round there not restricted to 50mph ;-)
Thanks Dave for the comment....yes it was the a272 road ...I've heard good things about the dct but I think I prefer CVT transmission on a scooter cheers mark
@@markpulling12 For what it's worth and feel free to delete as I'm just giving info. Bournemouth Honda have a NC750 (manual) Demonstrator and, as I said Yeovil have the DCT version demonstrator.
Well I have a engine between my legs and its a DCT transsmition : Honda Nc750x and I love it DCT its a feature of next generation motorcycles
I was interested until I saw the chain drive, I’m sick of oiling chains 😐 great review btw 👍
Thank You Almighty God I will buy one for myself
How is a 750cc with DCT come cheaper than a 560cc TMAX? TMAX is more expensive than a 650cc BMW scooter actually.
I think TMAX got used to ZERO competition for so many years that's why they're priced at a premium. The Kymco AK550 is practically a replica of the TMAX but at half the price and a lot faster.
Good review, sounds good too. This though is not a scooter, more an automatic motorcycle. Also for what it is I feel its far too expensive as are many of these so called maxi scoots. The problem is that once you go beyond 400cc its hard to have a larger engine connected by one bolt through the swingarm. I currently have a kymco xciting 400i. A true maxi scooter and £3.500 cheaper than this bike. I could not justify the extra layout for this. The kymco is more than capable of doing what I require and will quite happily cruise all day long at motorway speeds so touring is no problem. Also more storage as standard and I suspect better economy, cheaper insurance and running costs to boot. But each to their own I say. Again thank you for an informative review.
Thanks Phil ....yes 100% the 300/400 class is the best I think for maxi scooters...must try a kymco ...my current favorite is the Forza 350
Regards mark
@@markpulling12 I've heard good reports on both these scoots. 300 and 350cc Today we are spoilt for choice but not as much in this country where larger scoots are harder to sell. I ride motorcycles and scooters so I experience The best of both. I constantly watch the market for new machines which is why reviews such as yours are invaluable. Few dealers have scooters available to test ride so you take your chances. One scooter I am waiting for is a 310cc offering from a Chinese manufacture called zontes. This will be their first scooter. On paper it looks good and zontes have a growing reputation here in the UK although progress is painfully slow.
@@wolfburgman I have reviews on zontes 125 s ....very good bikes
@@markpulling12 ok, thats brilliant. I owned an older model called the tiger 125. I have owned from new 2016. Zontes 250s phantom. Overall good bikes
I'd look at a Kymco, trouble is finding one. Autotrader search just now shows one 550? No dealers in Scotland I know of either. Mind you, Yamaha and Suzuki nearest dealers are over 100 miles away but Honda on my doorstep so will probably end up with a Forza ....
Why does Europe get all the cool scoots!? I wish we got them over here in the states 😭
Fit this with footpegs rather than footboards and I would be interested...
For my height, scooter floorboards are always to high and too far forward.
As an NC750X owner I can highly recommend this engine to everyone.
I wish the belt drive was available on the NC750X as well.
The Forza is chain driven same as the NC750X
The 350 has an electrically adjustable screen but the 750 doesn't. Hmmm...
Wish they sold the Forza 750 here in the US
Great full in-depth video. Any chance you could review the Forza 350? Thanks
Ha ...I'm probably doing that one next rich !
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Brilliant. Look forward to it.
Just ordered one.
@@richfords3817 I think the mid size maxi scooters are great !
Currently own a Forza 125 but need that extra Oomph. Ideal for what I want it for. Can’t knock the 125, been a brilliant scooter
Hi, do you think limited to de A2 license( 48 hp) is enough power for its weight?, i have seen a few reviews here in Spain but any quesitions about it. I ve only the A2 license.
Thank you very much
Not wanting a high maintenance chain yo take care of. The belt drive is a huge win for the Yamaha
Very beautiful bike ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Could you please also test peugeot xp 400 gt?
Ok I'll see if I can get hold of one of those to review Best wishes mark
Great review, have you done the nc700/750s review?
Is it the same engine?
Hi yes the same engine ....I'm due to do it in the next month or so :)
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 just saw your review of the Rebel 1100. Newly subbed. Seriously considering either the new NC750X or the rebel just comes down to Rebel's style and performance vs cost to buy and MPG of the NC750X. Looking forward to your take on the new NC!
What happens when it rains on a non adjustable screen
You'll still get just as wet with an adjustable screen as non adjustable really ...maybe the adjustable one can direct the wind and rain blast away from your visor for better visibility but from my experience you'll still get wet :)
Cheers mark
How does it compare to X-Adv on roads?
Hi it feels very secure and has excellent ride quality and handling ...the x adv feels a bit more like a motorcycle round the corners
Cheers mark
Nice review,must be the only one on English at the moment.
I love honda but I really dont get what is the whole point of chain drive on a maxi scooter?
They came up with DCT which is great on all bikes,but chain is pointless!
Even a belt drive would have been better I think :)
Surely a more shape compatible top-case could have been found. A lot of care and effort has gone into designing a lovely sleek machine and the appearance has then been ruined by the addition of an incongruous cube.
Nice scooter. Too much engine and insufficient room under the seat. Shame about the chain drive.
did you figure out how to cancel the traction control?
Hi no ...didn't get into that ..some Hondas just have a simple button on the left side ...I guess if you can its hidden deep in the riding modes and settings maybe a manual mode
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 I think manual is just for shifring gears, on the Xadv 2020 there was another button just to cancel traction control, guess if setting user mode this can be adjusted.
Love it but unfortunately you can’t get the in australia 😡
I wish it could come to Usa becouse its not in Usa i had no choice but to buy relevant of this power engine Honda NC750x DCT
Thanks for the comment Michal ...yes shame it's not in the USA but the nc750 dct is my favorite :)
Cheers mark
wish this was available here in the states
NC750X VS Forza VS Xadv comparison, please !!!
X adv review coming soon !
Best regards mark
I do not understand that the Japanese make these great bikes for long distance use, but don't include a cruise control !
Great video well done
greetings from Philippines..nice video you've got 👍
Thanks ....would love to visit Davao city oneday ! Regards mark
@@markpulling12 davao...cebu....palawan....bohol and sibuyan island..such a beautiful place white sand beach perfect for relaxation away from noise.you are very much welcome mark. come and visit Philippines its more fun.
@@khristoffersonalcachupas7536 sounds fantastic !
I’m looking to buy a new scooter and really like the look of this one.
Thanks Tony ....it's great !
Regards mark
@@markpulling12 buy this one... its a real powerful beauty
@@Sveinjk most definitely ! :)
Thanks Mark! A motorcycle that looks like a scooter!
Although I’m not a scooter?? fan another great review.
Well, it's not really a "scooter". Basically, it's a bike in a scooter dress. I've bought it 2 months ago and did 2500 kilometers so far. The feeling during the ride is exactly like on a real motorcycle, but a lot more comfortable and with wheather protection. I love it!
@@photoholicswould you recommend this for a long tour with a pillion?
@@tiernangorduin7975Well, the longest tour I made with my girlfriend was something about 4-5 hours. And we were fine. However, my gf has a hight of 160 cm, so she is quite small and therefore felt real comfortable. 😉
I will probably get one as soon as they do come with cruise control
I think it’s a matter of a year or 2 🍻
Cruise will make this a great tourer
Thanks mark
if anyone is considering buying one of these.it might be best to get a faraday pouch to put your key in. anyone who see you get off your scooter can get all they need using a mob/phone and nick ya scooter while your on your walk about.
Thanks for the info John
Great review man!!!!
No worries Marco
My pleasure !
Cheers mark
Ride by wire throttle on the Forza, NC750x, xADV 750, but not one cruise control among them. I'll wait, Honda, because I know you'll sprinkle that in later.
Yes cruise has to come soon on these Ernie :)