@@jimmybrodriguez im thinking on 16 inch barrel ar15, 62gr green tips, A 2.5-10x glx primary arms acss griffin. Im tryn to accurrately touch from 0 to 625 yards with red dot on top for cqb.do you think thats a good setup?
30 round mags throughout the stages is a good look. I've tried taking my mlok grip off my scoped rifle but I just can't. Awesome video. And the 5.56 outside of 400 is shooting shooting
I couldn’t agree more. As a do it all GPR style rifle my 12.5 is my 0-500 setup with an ATACR. Anything further I want a bigger gun. Mainly for wind resistance. I have an spr that I built out of a 16inch AR and that gun will do 700 all day. Wind is a different beast!
Never considered taking my 12.5 beyond 200 yards before seeing your videos. Took mine out to 400 and was amazed how capable the gun was at distance, might slap an atlas on it now. My 1-4 elcan bdc was good enough to get me on a full size ipsc with 55gr.
Bruiser says the bullet doesn’t just fall out of the sky. It’s all contextual, just depends on what exactly you’re trying to do. Trying to push them to their failure point helps you learn a lot and really refine some skills
Great video. Looks like a good match and STC is an awesome place. For this type of stuff I’d recommending ditching barricade stops/fore grips when running bipods and using bags for barricades. Using the bag length ways allows more surface contact and will aid in stabilizing the gun better.
I’m still being faithful to my 13.7 build. Tho it seems the gun gods are doing everything in their power to make another barrel length popular ….. I’m sticking with the 13.7!
FYI.. add spiked feet to the bipod.. it will help you on most of those shots.... also, use 20rd mags so they wont hit the ground. they key to long range wind is seeing your misses... if you cant, you are just SOL... if you can see it, you can adjust on the fly fast...
Looks cool. I do wonder why you don't just hold over instead of dialing? I could see quickly dialing on scope with a zero stop. With an LPVO, it seems like that's a recipe to mess yourself up as the day gets long.
this just solidifies in my mind the need for a BDC reticle for those ranges, or learning the holdovers better. Not sure where the zero for that rifle was but having to dial for 300 yards, what?
Some these are 6inch plates at odd distance, it’s not 300 on the dot. It could be 315 or 364. Dialing allows us to be as precise as possible. But like I said at the end being your bdc to the next one and test it, push it, find where it works well and where it doesn’t. On some of the stages where we can’t dial it could be really handy
@@jimmybrodriguez That’s good advice. I usually comment before I watch the whole thing, that’s on me I guess 😂. Definitely going to be doing more drills at odd distance intervals now.
Honest question: why are you dialing DOPE? That reticle is gucci for holdovers. With my 18" I'm out to 900y within 10 mils. (700y is my self imposed limit tho lol) Is it because of the 12.5'' bbl?
I’ve found dialing to be more precise, especially on the smaller targets at further distances then I’m just holding wind instead of holding both. If I had no time I would hold both. Or some stages don’t allow you to dial. I use to be hold only but I’ve found it’s important be good at both.
Curious why you are choosing the method of dialing? And not holding? That looks like the ATACR, which I also have. Very good scope for holding. Dialing is incredibly complicated and takes precious seconds.
It’s all a balance of speed and accuracy. Dialing isn’t complicated. Dialing allows for more precise shots on smaller targets like 1.5 moa at 600. Holding on ipsc size is faster for sure. Situation dictates.
@@jimmybrodriguez Of course dialing isn't complicated, but I think the obvious implication in his question is that it is slower. People put a big emphasis on LVPO reticles specifically for this reason. Looking forward to the video.
I feel like I remember you mentioning it in a previous video, but what caps & cord are you using on your atacr? I’ve been struggling with the flip ones that it comes with because they’re lengthening the scope enough that it interferes with my clip-ons and their positions. But I also get nervous about not running any at all for really humid/foggy/dusty environments. Your setup looks like the winning solution.
Awesome experience. Nice looking rifle too. The scope mount looks pretty high. How is that in prone? Is that a cheek riser on there to compensate for the high mount? Setting up my gpr rifle. I like the high mounts for standing but it sucks prone. Seems everything is a trade off.
You hit the nail on the head. It’s trade offs. I like it better in the weird positions but it’s not as consistent in prone unless you practice it a lot
Something else to consider it may not have been you a 12.5 barrel is not really comparable to a 20 18 or even a 16 inch barrel especially when velocity is one of the key players with the 5.56 also not sure if you could run your own ammo or if they gave you ammo but the ADI F1SS109 62 grain is even better than alot of the 223 match ammo but it needs to be in the bubble pack version of ammo great job tho at least you are out putting your skills to the test!!!!
@@alexgavieres8293 lol he was running 556 and I was running 223 but that ammo difference made up all the difference the barrel size lacked! Just something else to think about
@Possum Puncher Yeah, true 5.56-level ammo is no joke vs. the more commerical-grade stuff. Plus, a newer, tighter barrel could be on the fast side for length vs. a barrel with the throat burned out.
Bro there is a masters division in the tactical games. I competed against a 48 year old who was below the knee amputee and still killed it. Didn’t hear him complain once about being too old.
As a PRS guy I’d love to run my DMR in a match like this. I have a 18” build with a Proof barrel, Primary Arms PLX 1-8x Griffin MIL and it’s easy mode inside of 600 yards. I usually set up a 66% IPSC at 600 that I can connect with from barricades. Beyond 600 is where it gets interesting
@@jimmybrodriguez production guns will always have their drawbacks, which is what a Staccato is. I have the baseplates, and with the slide removed and baseplate installed I cannot make the magazine touch the extractor, regardless of the amount of force on the magazine with or without the magwell. Yes Staccato should fix it, I will never argue that
It’s what came with it🤷🏾♂️. It’s not a basepads issue. It’s a grip module issue. The gen 2 with Dawson mag release never had this issue because it would allow the overseating even without the basepad
@@jimmybrodriguez well if we go with recce isn’t a classification of rifle, i don’t see the need to restrict the scope magnification. I understand the “challenge” of it, but even having the most Gucci scope isn’t going to get you on target right? Just feel like a 3-12 should be allowed if there is going to be a max zoom. 10x just screams LPVO or 2.5x10 type “SPR” scopes. Again all depends on the known and max distances.
I mean don't get me wrong I love 1911s and 2011s, however they do have there problems. That stem from there design. So naturally 2011s are going to have some of there "grandparents" problems like over inserting of a magazine. Common in 1911s. Shoot 1911s and 2011s enough you will start having sear and disconector issues. The guns require more maintenance.
@Jim's Goon Life the only thing I don't like about it is you gotta go all the way out with the buffer position to charge the handle. Other than that it's perfect. And there's really no way around that so I guess it's a pointless complaint lol
i find it strange that you blame stance so much when you're shooting an SBR to over 500m. shooting is not boxing or BJJ, stance is not THAT important. as long as you're comfortable, you're fine. 556 has a dogshit BC, even if you had a 24 inch barrel you'd only be supersonic to 900m. not to mention wind blows it all over hell.
> 12.5 "Recce Rifle" Go to the gym so you can handle the weight and length of a 16" Rifle. Until then, have fun with your rounds going subsonic at 250 yards I guess?
@@jimmybrodriguez I mean not really impressed at all, you're making excuses for poor performance for like half the stages that arent pistol stages. I don't think you're a bad shooter at all, just falling victim to trends (see: cheek riser and tall mounted LPVO)
Im not here to impress anyone just to test gear and learn. I would’ve still made the same misses with an 18” barrel. Longer barrel doesn’t compensate for incorrect wind calls and dialing wrong dope.
Appreciate the honesty and self criticism. This is the kind of openness that’s refreshing.
It’s only way to get better
@@jimmybrodriguez im thinking on 16 inch barrel ar15, 62gr green tips,
A 2.5-10x glx primary arms acss griffin.
Im tryn to accurrately touch from 0 to 625 yards with red dot on top for cqb.do you think thats a good setup?
We really appreciate your honesty and not shying away from self reflection and sharing with us. Watching your journey and progress is awesome!
Good on you for showing real shooting and being honest that looks like a good time
Solid time for sure and was a ton of fun
You did a great job. People will also find your experience very valuable for their own shooting journey.
🤘🏼🙌🏻appreciate it
30 round mags throughout the stages is a good look. I've tried taking my mlok grip off my scoped rifle but I just can't. Awesome video. And the 5.56 outside of 400 is shooting shooting
It was a ton of fun
Thanks for your honesty and showing that plans get smoked for a variety of reasons and sometimes it's a struggle.
Keep it up!!
Love it dude. Thx for sharing the successes and failure. So much to learn from that. Great stuff!
I couldn’t agree more. As a do it all GPR style rifle my 12.5 is my 0-500 setup with an ATACR. Anything further I want a bigger gun. Mainly for wind resistance. I have an spr that I built out of a 16inch AR and that gun will do 700 all day. Wind is a different beast!
Never considered taking my 12.5 beyond 200 yards before seeing your videos. Took mine out to 400 and was amazed how capable the gun was at distance, might slap an atlas on it now. My 1-4 elcan bdc was good enough to get me on a full size ipsc with 55gr.
i have a 11.5 and i all in for anything 300 an under. but i use 77 in the shorter barrel a lot more stable and better shooting round
Bruiser says the bullet doesn’t just fall out of the sky. It’s all contextual, just depends on what exactly you’re trying to do. Trying to push them to their failure point helps you learn a lot and really refine some skills
Matches quickly let you know if your setup sucks. You also usually meet some great people.
Really digging getting to see you experience trying out this genre of shooting. Keep getting after it!
From my experience in stressful combat situations it’s always better to hold than dial. I’m gonna compete in this division next year.
If I have time I’ll dial otherwise yes hold
Great video. Looks like a good match and STC is an awesome place.
For this type of stuff I’d recommending ditching barricade stops/fore grips when running bipods and using bags for barricades. Using the bag length ways allows more surface contact and will aid in stabilizing the gun better.
I really like your content, delivery, and demeanor!
Came for the Taylor smack talk. Was not disappointed 😂
What kind of pants were you wearing during the match? Thought I’d switch the questions up😂. Love your content thanks for everything you do💪🏻
Mantle’s new pants and they are 🤌🏼
The standard TTG comps feature some CQB/2 Gun stages as floaters, alongside the physical stages.
I’m still being faithful to my 13.7 build. Tho it seems the gun gods are doing everything in their power to make another barrel length popular ….. I’m sticking with the 13.7!
Run your gear man and know what it’s capable of. No one says you have to have a certain length.
@@jimmybrodriguez
“That’s what she said”
😂😂😂
me too.. Sons of Liberty?
It’s a cycle - 16 inch barrels are going to be cool again for like 12 minutes before someone decides that 18 inch barrels are where it’s at
Short king!
FYI.. add spiked feet to the bipod.. it will help you on most of those shots....
also, use 20rd mags so they wont hit the ground.
they key to long range wind is seeing your misses... if you cant, you are just SOL... if you can see it, you can adjust on the fly fast...
My man!
🤘🏼
Looks cool. I do wonder why you don't just hold over instead of dialing? I could see quickly dialing on scope with a zero stop. With an LPVO, it seems like that's a recipe to mess yourself up as the day gets long.
this just solidifies in my mind the need for a BDC reticle for those ranges, or learning the holdovers better. Not sure where the zero for that rifle was but having to dial for 300 yards, what?
Some these are 6inch plates at odd distance, it’s not 300 on the dot. It could be 315 or 364. Dialing allows us to be as precise as possible. But like I said at the end being your bdc to the next one and test it, push it, find where it works well and where it doesn’t. On some of the stages where we can’t dial it could be really handy
@@jimmybrodriguez
That’s good advice. I usually comment before I watch the whole thing, that’s on me I guess 😂. Definitely going to be doing more drills at odd distance intervals now.
Honest question: why are you dialing DOPE? That reticle is gucci for holdovers. With my 18" I'm out to 900y within 10 mils. (700y is my self imposed limit tho lol) Is it because of the 12.5'' bbl?
I’ve found dialing to be more precise, especially on the smaller targets at further distances then I’m just holding wind instead of holding both. If I had no time I would hold both. Or some stages don’t allow you to dial. I use to be hold only but I’ve found it’s important be good at both.
@@jimmybrodriguez That makes sense! Thanks for the reply!
Curious why you are choosing the method of dialing? And not holding? That looks like the ATACR, which I also have. Very good scope for holding. Dialing is incredibly complicated and takes precious seconds.
It’s all a balance of speed and accuracy. Dialing isn’t complicated. Dialing allows for more precise shots on smaller targets like 1.5 moa at 600. Holding on ipsc size is faster for sure. Situation dictates.
@Jim's Goon Life maybe a video idea?
Done
@@jimmybrodriguez Of course dialing isn't complicated, but I think the obvious implication in his question is that it is slower. People put a big emphasis on LVPO reticles specifically for this reason. Looking forward to the video.
Looks like a lot of fun
Been looking for a comb height riser for my SBA3. Which one are you using in the video?
Irregular defense
@@jimmybrodriguez thanks I was looking for this comment for a while.
Edit: which length?
That was awesome!!
I feel like I remember you mentioning it in a previous video, but what caps & cord are you using on your atacr? I’ve been struggling with the flip ones that it comes with because they’re lengthening the scope enough that it interferes with my clip-ons and their positions. But I also get nervous about not running any at all for really humid/foggy/dusty environments. Your setup looks like the winning solution.
Yup they are solid af. One hundred Concpets
@@jimmybrodriguez Thank you. Purchased! 🤙
Why dial instead of just using holds? Honest question. Is it parallax?
Awesome experience. Nice looking rifle too.
The scope mount looks pretty high. How is that in prone? Is that a cheek riser on there to compensate for the high mount?
Setting up my gpr rifle. I like the high mounts for standing but it sucks prone. Seems everything is a trade off.
You hit the nail on the head. It’s trade offs. I like it better in the weird positions but it’s not as consistent in prone unless you practice it a lot
Good content, bro. I’d love to have access to a nice range/training center like that.
Nice 👍🏾
Are these tactical sniper competitions have limited round counts per stages or unlimited rounds until an impact is achieved?! Thanks
What reticle you running in your ATACR? Was wondering if it’s Tremor 3 so you didn’t have to dial as much. Also what ammo were you using?
The f1 dmx. 77gr IMI.
@@jimmybrodriguez Jim.....is that reticle in MOA...or Mil
Mil
@@jimmybrodriguez that IMI is solid for the price. I assumed you were running 77 but was just curious.
How far are you from Magnolia/Woodlands? Need to find some people to shoot with out here
A long ways
what load and speed (muzzle velocity) were you getting with that rig? And what was the fsrthest shot of the match?
77gr IMI 2541 fps. 710-740ish I don’t remember the exact yardage
Any info on that PSR build? I’m currently piecing one together and would love to hear how other are building one.
Something else to consider it may not have been you a 12.5 barrel is not really comparable to a 20 18 or even a 16 inch barrel especially when velocity is one of the key players with the 5.56 also not sure if you could run your own ammo or if they gave you ammo but the ADI F1SS109 62 grain is even better than alot of the 223 match ammo but it needs to be in the bubble pack version of ammo great job tho at least you are out putting your skills to the test!!!!
My 12.5 was 80fps faster than Taylor’s 16. Barrel length is only part of the equation
It’s true he had a little over 80fps on me with my 16, our dope confirmed it
Huh? A 12" is 80fps faster than a 16"??
Uh...smells like someone is running LAX reloads at a match?
Lol!!
@@alexgavieres8293 lol he was running 556 and I was running 223 but that ammo difference made up all the difference the barrel size lacked! Just something else to think about
@Possum Puncher Yeah, true 5.56-level ammo is no joke vs. the more commerical-grade stuff. Plus, a newer, tighter barrel could be on the fast side for length vs. a barrel with the throat burned out.
What’s the scope mount called?
This is something I for sure want to be doing. Just need to get a rifle built and a pistol.
With this course - would you have been able to hold over on your reticle or did it require a dope?
This looks like something I could get behind 😅
How much did it cost for this course. I didn’t see it on the website
It’s on the Tactical games website. The link is in the description
What is the name of the actual range you went to, that place looks awesome
Severance training center
Bro there is a masters division in the tactical games. I competed against a 48 year old who was below the knee amputee and still killed it. Didn’t hear him complain once about being too old.
What Scope caps are those on your Atacr?
One hundred concepts
What cheek riser are you using???
Irregular defense
Matches are humbling
Yup but it’s fun…for now lol
👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾 nice
As a PRS guy I’d love to run my DMR in a match like this. I have a 18” build with a Proof barrel, Primary Arms PLX 1-8x Griffin MIL and it’s easy mode inside of 600 yards. I usually set up a 66% IPSC at 600 that I can connect with from barricades. Beyond 600 is where it gets interesting
For the Staccato, give 10-8 performance baseplates a look.
Yeah I’ve seen them. It’s a known issue, it’s just frustrating that it doesn’t work with factory basepads
@@jimmybrodriguez production guns will always have their drawbacks, which is what a Staccato is. I have the baseplates, and with the slide removed and baseplate installed I cannot make the magazine touch the extractor, regardless of the amount of force on the magazine with or without the magwell. Yes Staccato should fix it, I will never argue that
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@@mop860I don’t get it. On either of my Staccatos I’ve never over seated even with Vulcan basepads that don’t fill the gap on the mag.
What was your round count for this match? Just curious.
I don’t remember the exact count but sub 200
Any guys using bdc reticle and if so how did they do?
Only one that I know of and he finished pretty low
Was the 573 yardage the furthest target of the day?
In the video I said targets were out to 710ish
That’s not the correct basepad for a 140mm mag & a full length grip.
That looks like a plastic gen2 basepad compared to a metal gen 3
It’s what came with it🤷🏾♂️. It’s not a basepads issue. It’s a grip module issue. The gen 2 with Dawson mag release never had this issue because it would allow the overseating even without the basepad
Why 10x max? Feels like they are pigeon holing what “recce” means nah?
Well to be fair recce isn’t a classification of rifle. 10x makes it a different kind of challenge really forcing you to have refined skill sets
@@jimmybrodriguez well if we go with recce isn’t a classification of rifle, i don’t see the need to restrict the scope magnification. I understand the “challenge” of it, but even having the most Gucci scope isn’t going to get you on target right? Just feel like a 3-12 should be allowed if there is going to be a max zoom. 10x just screams LPVO or 2.5x10 type “SPR” scopes. Again all depends on the known and max distances.
Their match their rules 🤷🏾♂️. To be fair I don’t know any competition where everyone was happy with the rules
👏👏
What bipod are you using?
Atlas but also trying out the harris
Who would ever guess a 2011 having 1911 problems...go figure 🤔
Never had an issue with 2011s until the 3rd gen grip module
I mean don't get me wrong I love 1911s and 2011s, however they do have there problems. That stem from there design. So naturally 2011s are going to have some of there "grandparents" problems like over inserting of a magazine. Common in 1911s. Shoot 1911s and 2011s enough you will start having sear and disconector issues. The guns require more maintenance.
Are you shooting the Beretta?
No
@@jimmybrodriguez what is you main EDC pistol at the moment? Do you use you EDC for competition?
Staccato p is what I use for everything currently
Nice! Thank you for the replies I love your videos. Your videos is the reason my shooting spark turned on again and to start practicing more often .
Is that slades cheek riser?
Yessir
@Jim's Goon Life the only thing I don't like about it is you gotta go all the way out with the buffer position to charge the handle. Other than that it's perfect. And there's really no way around that so I guess it's a pointless complaint lol
Long distance shooting is like sex.. length and girth are usually 2 very important factors... No 🧢!
No kink shaming. Whatever you’re into is cool with me lol
Says he is getting old, camera guy at 2.40 saying "oh shit he's fast!" means that you sir are a liar! :P
Don’t overanalyze your first performance in anything PRS-ish. It’s such a weird skillset, it’s always a shit show. Next time is always better!
Damn I want to do this stuff!!!!
Sign up for the next one when it drops we’ll see you there
The decoder reads ‘ be sure to take your vaccine’.
How old are you? lol
46
i find it strange that you blame stance so much when you're shooting an SBR to over 500m. shooting is not boxing or BJJ, stance is not THAT important. as long as you're comfortable, you're fine. 556 has a dogshit BC, even if you had a 24 inch barrel you'd only be supersonic to 900m. not to mention wind blows it all over hell.
Nah, that’s not correct at all on position.
@@RedRaider1803 yeah it is
Maybe for single shots it doesn’t matter but for follow up shots under the clock it matters
@@or6060 no it not. Have a nice night.
> 12.5 "Recce Rifle"
Go to the gym so you can handle the weight and length of a 16" Rifle. Until then, have fun with your rounds going subsonic at 250 yards I guess?
There no way you actually believe that right?
If it went subsonic at 250 my hits seem so much more impressive now lol
@@jimmybrodriguez I mean not really impressed at all, you're making excuses for poor performance for like half the stages that arent pistol stages.
I don't think you're a bad shooter at all, just falling victim to trends (see: cheek riser and tall mounted LPVO)
@@BeastHunterSam you understand his fps was 80 more than mine with a 16in”? that’s right I said more…. Must be a trend lol
Im not here to impress anyone just to test gear and learn. I would’ve still made the same misses with an 18” barrel. Longer barrel doesn’t compensate for incorrect wind calls and dialing wrong dope.
Bd ass training
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