*Denied due to "Driveway oil changes". Sounds like a simple lawsuit due to a violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. You're allowed to change your oil.*
Agreed. Find an attorney. Clear violation of the law. Unfortunately, most dealers have binding arbitration agreements on purchases with verbiage that protects the manufacturer too. I don't think they'll hold up in court though.
I have a 2008 Kia Rondo. At 150,000km the timing chain jumped. The Kia Dealer told me that the chain came off and the piston smashed all my valves (zero compression in all cylinders (2.4 engine) ) and that the engine was "Blown". They advised me that there were no "new engines" available but they could secure and install a rebuilt engine for $10,000. Being mechanically minded, I had my car towed home and I took the engine apart myself. I discovered that the 2.4 engine is a non-interference engine, meaning that the pistons cannot reach a fully open valve, therefore my valves and pistons were 100% good. I called the Kia Dealership to complain, they sent the head mechanic to my home to inspect the engine. He blamed a junior mechanic for the error and handed me the new gasket kits and head bolts to put it back together. I then paid $100 for a new timing chain and fixed the car myself. Rondo now has 250,000km and is still running. Just replaced the timing chain again.
Sounds like a service advisor, there job is to lie to you and get work. This give the mechanic hours at full pay since most kia hyundai tech get 1/2 or 3/4 pay of a job because it's warranty work and service advisor get paid commission off sell. They taught us that in mechanic school, that service advisor are not supposed to know about cars to con you into expensive repairs but they can't always lie as it's legal thing. Example:Reasons why they are always saying we recommend to to repair this instead of you need to repair this, mostly on spark plugs that only have 30k miles but the Manuel says the manufacturer says there good for 60 or 80k miles.
When an automaker's engines use timing chains that need replacing as often as a timing belt does... that's the point where I quit buying their bad products.
That's great, Tim. Good read and good on you👍🙏 If only we had more like you out there. They exist, here and there. Always a treat when you find one and read about their good fortune instead of misfortune.
I’ve been a mechanic for over 20 years, and I’m currently still one for the NYCTA, I perform all the oil changes on my fiancés 2014 Tucson and use Hyundai filters, I’d love them to tell me that they are not replacing a bad engine because I’m doing the oil changes myself.
@@NYPATRIOTBXYou shouldn't have too though when it's a known issue which they should know after a few engines blow with all the proof of maintenance.
@@serpentsilver6323 Luckily we haven’t had any problems so far, it’s only got 64K on it and we’ve taken it on quite a few road trips down south. My fiancé is the second owner and I do hope in the unfortunate event that the motor grenades itself, Hyundai will cover the cost.
while there are engines with manufacturer issues, I think with hyundai attracting people who have less money; I can see people negliecting their maintenance more.
I was tempted to buy a Hyundai Santa Fe several weeks ago when I was in the market for a new car. I'm so glad I went with a Toyota Camry. They're much better cars for your money.
Do it yourself oil changes are normally done more often than what the book recommends. I change my own oil and filter,I've never had a problem. Doing so allows me to check other parts under the car.
When my Tucson started to run sluggish, they wanted proof of oil changes. I would have Amazon auto ship my oil filter and oil every 8 months (I work from home so I don't put as much miles as I did before). I had to provide receipts of all the purchases and I am happy that I logged my oil changes in the car manual maintenance log. He sent it up to Hyundai headquarters and it was approved for further tests to see if I need a new engine. Now I need to put 1000 miles on it and send it back in for more tests.
You are correct 3000 miles If engine was full of oil it’s not the driveway oil change causing the blown engine. It’s design flaw /bad engine to begin with
My sister blew the engine in her 2018 Kia Soul with only 90,000 miles, then after a lot of back and forth with Kia for 3 months, they finally put a new engine in it. I said when she gets it back she needs to sell her Soul! 😂
Had owned Hyundai since 2000 bought a 2017 Santa Fee sport had less than 70 k miles and started using 1.5 quarts of oil in 700 miles , car had warranty that said it covered even the piston rings which was the problem dealer said wouldn’t replace engine until it blows up and dies. Service mgr that was about 20 year old said “ you just need to take your business somewhere else” best thing I could hear went and bought a brand new Lexus , best buying and service experience of my life. Hyundai not only lost my business but my 2 sons wrote them off also
@@Theywaswrong yes, I did unto others that did unto me, what was I supposed to do pay to have a new engine and then sue and make the lawyers even richer. Maybe who ever bought it with luck it blew up on the test drive, it was 2 quarts low when I traded. The service mgr said it was my fault for checking the oil between changes, after I gave him the wtf look , he said I should have done like everyone else don’t say anything just drive it until engine knocks up and then I could have gotten a free engine, so you see what my honesty to the dealer resulted in.NEVER NEVER NEVER Hyundai or Kia again
Be careful Lexus dealers cans be thieves too. They tried to rip-off my retired mother for $2400 for a front sway bar…..that an Indy mechanic verified had nothing wrong with it. Swaybars don’t break on 7 year old cars with 65k miles on it. If it did need replacement it’s only $300 and 1-2 hrs labor. They count on their customer base having more money, little knowledge about cars and just approving everything they say to fix. Be wary for anything they needs to be fixed. They try to get you when you bring it in for the every 5k checks and 10k oil changes.
Make sure you take it in for the recall and get the knock sensor installed. My 2014 Sonata’s engine failed in July at 130,000 miles. Took 6 weeks, but Hyundai replaced the engine. If I get another 100k out of it that will be nice. Another issue with Hyundai/Kias are the thefts. Our car insurance rates jumped 40% and my agent couldn’t get quotes from other providers. They were not writing new auto policies due to the thefts. It’s too bad, because I actually like my sonata. I was considering a Genesis for my next car, but now I don’t know. It took a lawsuit for Hyundai to do the right thing.
SPREAD THE WORD AND TELL PEOPLE NOT TO BOTHER TO TAKE THEIR CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP IF THEY ALSO HAVE A " REBUILT TITLE" AS THE EXTENDED WARRANTY WILL BE VOID. THEY GOT ME FOR $208 FOR THE DIAGNOSTIC KNOWING THAT I HAD A REBUILT TITLE, IM FIGHTING THEM TO GET MY MONEY BACK.
I've done my own oil/filter changes for deades allowing a 30 + minute drain time and I Do Not overtighten anything, overfill or underfill. If feasible, do it right, do it yourself. To hell with Hyundai/Kia.
I am echoing your response. During a regular oil change, Hyundai installed the knock sensor software on my engine, but did not mention it verbally at all. I just noticed the vague language on my receipt. I've got 80K on the engine. But because of the theft issues, I don't drive it much.
Take your Hyundais to dealerships and trade them in against a Toyota/Honda/Subaru because Hyundai are being really slimy about these issues. My local dealership acted like they'd never hear of this issue I was having but I met a lady I know on the way out (she has the exact same make, model, year of Tucson as mine), who had literally just had to get her engine block replaced for the same reason...these guys are scum
Well we did see a nice reliability low maintenance Era where you'd hit 200k miles np with minimal maintenance. Since every damn thing needs a turbo and half the cars are using a CVT that's gone out the window and we're seeing 80's level reliability again.
Just spun a main bearing in our 2015 soul, the engine is toast. Towed it in Monday got the call Tuesday they are replacing the engine at no cost through our warranty. Hopefully this one will list longer than 60k miles.
You do understand that they are replacing it with the same engine that has the same defect as the one that blew up. What you should do is sell while it has a new engine because their are plenty of stories of people's new replacement engine's blowing up also. And they won't fix engine's in a car for the life of the car.
Hyundai replaced my engine free of charge when the knock sensor indicated a knock in the engine. The old engine only had 73,000 miles on it. Now I have the newer version so I feel better about it. I use synthetic oil but still change it around 3500 - 4000 miles to keep it clean. I don't care what the recommend.
I love how these marketing companies claim that Kia’s and Hyundais are some of the best quality new vehicles. Pretty bold claim for a company that has been manufacturing defective engines, known for spontaneously combusting and extremely easy to steal vehicles for the last decade. I guess time will tell on the new ones.
True, but they back them up for 10 years or 100,000 miles. We had our engine go in our Santa Fe at about 8 years and 75,000 and got a brand new engine in a car that is in like new condition. We had a brand new loaner for 3-4 weeks----so took a few extra trips in it. And I believe they have upped the warrantees for the cars with the poor engines----by about 2 more years. I had a beautiful Olds Cutlass that had the transmission fail at 13,000 miles----and I had to pay because it was 1000 past warranty. But a class action lawsuit got me 80% of my money back.
@@dennisplatte7506 I read a story about a Kia that made it to over 600k miles and the guy had gotten 7 free engine replacements to get there. I really don’t understand how they haven’t gone completely bankrupt yet. I’ve seen Toyotas go 500k with poor maintenance on the original engine.
They know the engines break down. Ours went at 72,000 miles. We could still drive it----but it was losing power. When we took it in----they said leave it here and take this free loaner. No questions asked. Three weeks later we had a new engine, hoses. radiator and many other things. The cost said 9500 dollars-----and we paid about 100 in deductibles. So backing them up with no hassles is nice. They have increased the warrantee to 12 years on some of their problematic engines. And yes----Kia has been picked as the best auto in initial claims. My Old's transmission went at 13,000 miles----in the 1980's.
My 2004 Kia Rio has 295,000 kms on it and it doesn't miss a beat. Everything works. I service it myself. I expect to make 500,000 kms. I had a 540i BMW with 409,000 kms on it. Service them if you can.
@@chencho9226 after it was towed to the dealer they ran an engine scan and once the results of the fault codes were recorded the dealership called me back and said that they would be replacing the engine free of charge. It took 3 months for me to get my car back, but I was just happy that I had nothing out of pocket.
@@RJ42997 thank you for your reply my car just died on me last week on the express way I'm going to take it to the dealer this week hopefully they don't make me jump threw hoops just to get it fixed
Hey! My engine just failed today and I noticed that I qualify, but I don't want to do or say the wrong things that would disqualify me. I'm trying to gather all this info before telling them anything. What was the process like? My car is at 140,000 2011.
I took a chance and bought a 2023 Tucson with the new 2.5 liter engine. I was warned by my excellent salesman to always bring it to a Hyundai dealership for oil changes and transmission service and do it religiously - never be late over the recommended miles. That way if for some reason this new engine is problematic they won't be able to deny a claim. It may sound crazy that I even bought it, but it was such a nice car and I test drove all the competitor's models (RAV4, CRV, Mazda CX50, VW Tiguan, Mitsu Outlander). Plus I got a really good deal - way better than what those other dealers had to offer. So, I thought I'd give Hyundai a chance. Hope I never regret it.
Doesn’t seem to make a difference. My 72 y/o Mother in- law always took her 2019 Kia Soul Turbo who always had it serviced within required intervals at the dealership, needed a new engine at 54,000 miles. Because it happened at the hight of Covid, there were no replacements so they had to do a rebuild instead. She bought it new but she intends to get rid of it before the warranty ends.
I wouldn't worry too much if I were you. Just take care of it like you are supposed to with any vehicle and I expect that you'll get good life out of it. However, I am not sure about their dual clutch transmissions. Ford tried the dry dual clutch thing in their Focus and Festiva and it didn't go so well. I've seen Kias with tons of miles that have had literally zero problems and then I see some that need engines at 50,000 miles. Across all makes and models of vehicles, the difference is almost always in how it is treated.
My 2013kia sportage just had engine seized, and kia dealership said the warranty just expired in 2023 just few months ago.. and there is no recall on this one..
Yesterday we picked up my wife's Kia Sorento with a brand new engine. It had 100,000 miles, but the head gasket was blown. Had we not been able to use the extended warranty it would have gone to the junkyard. We were grateful that we got a new engine, but it was at the dealership for 72 days. That was a real hassle.
It happened to me. I bought a brand new Hyundai Sante Fe in 2015. It was not even a year old. I was driving from Austin, TX to my hometown outside of Shreveport, LA. There are no interstates between the 2 cities so alot of back roads/high ways. I was driving down one of these roads when I heard a clinking sound. I noticed I could not get over 60 miles an hour. I called my friend in Austin to ask him should I pull over...he told me keep driving until I couldn't drive anymore. Finally, I made it home. Took it to the dealership in Shreveport, LA and they stated it was some metal shavings in the engine and that they would replace the engine free of charge. I asked did they plan on doing a recall? The Service Tech said they were going to take them as they come in. So, like this video...some people are driving around as 2nd owners of these cars who might not know about the free engines. Hyundai had my vehicle for over a month because the engine had to come from Korea or something like that and there were 13 cars before me. I can say I still have the vehicle, but have not had major problems since then.
Unfortunately there aren't many value for money options out there as Hyundai and kia brings, so it's luck of a draw if you get a lasting car or bad car. Also many people don't really do proper maintance
@@blackout07blue honda reliability is going down, the rest are boring. I'd never chose camry accord or mazda 6 over Sonata Nline or K5 gt or N cars. They just not on the same level.
Warranty wprk cannot be denied because you do work on your own vehicle. I looked into that when I bought my new Toyota. You need to keep records of the services you perform though.
It is a federal law that you can work on your own vehicle and not void the warranty. www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2022/07/ftc-announces-three-right-repair-cases-do-your-warranties-comply-law
I have a 2016 Sonata sport. And I really like the car. Because they have become a very high theft items as well as the engine issue that you guys are discussing on this broadcast. Plus the fact that my insurance company increased my rate by almost 30%, which I'm sure is related to the high theft issues. I'm finally selling it even though it's in totally mint condition and I have personally had no issues. An online auto retailer is buying it for about 48% of what I paid for it new 7 years ago. Yes the depreciation hurts, but other dealers were going to give me even less, by thousands. No I don't want any damn new car payments I hate that. So I will be looking for a used Honda or Toyota.
Be careful with Honda. Do your research. I have owned them in the past with excellent results, but the last 6 years or so,,,,. Two relatives both had high oil consumption. One traded his CRV in on a Mazda CX5. The other said the dealership (stealership) said the consumption was normal. She said she trusted the dealership and none of the online horror stories. She suffered mild frostbite to her hands before the tow truck or family (me) could get to her when the engine went and she was way out in the countryside!! It was -35C with wind chills in the -55C (-68F) range. We warmed her up in the truck & had extra blankets etc to warm her up. She is ok now, but has numbness in her finger tips. She is fighting with the dealership over the motor under warranty. She now drives a 2022 Subaru Crosstrek. I have met with the dealership and they are treating her better. She is my niece. Her parents are kinda timid. They are going to replace the engine under warranty at last, but they won’t extend the warranty. The CRV will be sold once she gets it back. The poor service isn’t Honda’s fault. The engine failing prematurely, is. Honda has had some reliability issues as of late and unfortunately, both of the only family members with Honda’s, both CRVs, have had engine issues. Toyota,,,, hard to beat. I say this not exactly liking Toyota, but that’s just a quirk of mine. Good luck, but remember, things change over time. In 2006-2009 if you had a 2.7 V6 from Hyundai/Kia, you had a very good vehicle!! The4 cylinder from then wasn’t too great. They have gone downhill since, it seems.
I got rid of a Hyundai 2016 with the same engine that is in this you tube video. Between that potential loss and the cars are high theft targets, and the fact that I found out first hand, that 'insurance companies woud NOT insure it, when I tried to renew recent, that was enough for me. I did not get the Honda with the small displacement turbo charged engine. I got the hybrid, with a regular 2 liter hybrid powertrain, which today, produced a whopping 51 miles per gallon, on a 200 mile trip. I'm amazed how solid it is with 72K miles on it. @@shitloveaduck
I have a 2016 kia soul that has burned oil since day 1, since I just kept putting oil in the engine it has lasted until 250k miles, will they replace my engine or claim I got my use out of it, bunch of bs.
We have a 2015 sonata with the 2.4l engine. At just 116k miles the engine randomly started misfiring and the check engine light came on while driving down the highway. After limping it home I got the car scanned and it showed a misfire in the 3rd cylinder. After attempting small fixes like spark plugs and plug wires I decided to take it to Long Hyundai, this was my second mistake aside from buying a junk Hyundai in the first place. I stopped taking our car there for oil changes initially because I found an oil filter I had changed the last time still on the car after I paid them for an oil and filter change. With the car at Long, Chris from service stated it had no compression in the 3rd cylinder and it needed head work ($5300), but was pushed to do an engine replacement which was quoted to me at $7-8k, that I would be responsible for. After trying and getting no real diagnosis on the actual problem and a very difficult time trying to communicate with the service department, I picked the car up and coughed up the $200 “diagnostic” fee for nothing. Once I picked up the car I finally got the service report and the diagnosis was “blown head gasket.” I did not have a single symptom of a blown head gasket- no coolant in the oil, no overheating, no smoke out of the exhaust, coolant was clean in the over flow tank with no bubbling. I immediately drove to S&S Auto for a second opinion and they quickly found metal material in my oil and no symptoms of a head gasket issue. Long either completely missed this or did not want to tell me. I personally saw the shavings in the oil when I picked it up from S&S. They advised me about the warranty campaign Hyundai has on the 2.4liter engines and they didn’t charge me anything for the diagnostics. After doing my own research I decided to take it back to a dealership to have them handle the situation. I called the service director-John- at Long Hyundai to explain the situation and told him I was taking the car to a different Hyundai service center to reassess. He did not care that I was taking it to another dealership after Long has misdiagnosed the issue. John just told me, “Well let me know what they find.” (Tried getting a hold of him multiple times since and have never gotten a call back) After moving the car to a third shop, this time Mnt View Hyundai, which is about an hour from my house, I talked to Brian about what was going on and he stated they have been cleaning up a lot of issues from Long. After he had the car for a couple of days he stated he had found the metal shavings in the oil and that the car was misfiring and it should be taken care of under Hyundai’s warranty campaign 953 for excessive bearing wear on the crank. He went back and forth with Hyundai Motors America and I had to give them all my receipts for the oil changes I had done and they stated that my issue was not covered under warranty since my engine wasn’t knocking or locked up yet (basically because it hadn’t left me stranded on the side of the road), but that they would cover 85% of the replaced engine. After fighting for another week and hours on the phone with Hyundai’s warranty departments and Hyundai customer care with no resolve, I had agreed to cover the 15% that Hyundai wouldn’t cover. I was still mad they wouldn’t cover 100% from their own warranty, but it was better knowing Long was going to charge me $7-8k. Brian helped me get a rental car covered from Hyundai since some of the items were on back order. I was very grateful for that since I hadn’t had the car for two weeks at this point. A couple weeks later Brian called me and stated the car should be ready in a day or two and suggested random replacements, like air filters and brakes (all I take care of myself and have receipts on the last time I changed them) I picked up the car and paid my 15% of the cost which ended up being $828. I told him I wanted a test drive, no offense to him or the dealership, but I can’t trust anyone. Upon entering the vehicle I noticed the abs light and traction light on and the blind spot detection wasn’t working. I took it for a drive and went back and talked to Brian about that, stating there was no issue with this when I brought it. He had a tech sheet stating they ran the code when they got the car and it was on. I asked why it was never brought up to me while the car was in his shop for almost 3 weeks. He stated the tech ran some tests and stated it was operating properly and didn’t want to sell me a part I didn’t need. I stated having the abs and traction light on could be dangerous and could malfunction and he stated “it won’t lock up” and “it’s fine”. However, he did offer to fix the issue for free labor and I pay for the part, which was $360. I told him I wasn’t giving Hyundai any more money and drove my car home with all three of those lights on my dash. I am glad the car has a new engine and Brian did help me out with a lot of things, but there are still issues that should have been taken care of that just weren’t. The last month with the car and dealing with all of Hyundai has been beyond frustrating and I now have a car I don’t trust or feel safe in. They have definitely lost me and my family as customers and I hope anyone reading this will think twice before buying anything made by Hyundai.
I constantly laugh when people tell me “Hyundai makes good cars”… I worked for them and all we did was replace engines and electrics. Junk brand. Toyota/Lexus, Mazda, or Honda/Acura is the way to go.
I made the mistake of believing in hyundai, and now I'm actually saving money by having a brand new Honda with a payment. The low-mileage, paid-off Hyundai had so many issues, that the brand new Honda is actually costing me less per year... I'm relieved, but cannot stress enough that those kias & Hyundais are not long-haul cars.
I also made this mistake. I thought the 10yr, 100k mile warranty was worth it...but what's the use of a warranty if you have to fight tooth and nail to get something fixed without having to pay? Just traded my '17 Sonata Sport that was burning oil like crazy, and had a few other issues starting to pop up, for a '23 Highlander XSE
@@ABC-nv8ly I've heard some reports of Honda engine issues...but not sure how true they are. I'd be surprised if it's actually widespread and not just a few isolated issues.
My 2018 Kia Soul engine blew at 165k miles while driving to work. New knock sensor installed as well. Leading up to this, my car was burning 1 quart of oil every 200 miles. Oil was changed every 3000 miles.
Law or not, I was shopping around for a new car. That Hyundai/Kia 10 year power train warranty LOOKS good. But google the terms and you'll find that to GET that 10 year warranty, it HAS TO BE SERVICED at a Hyundai/Kia dealership. Now, I know all about the part where legally you don't have to. The part I don't know about is the EXTENDED power train warranty part, beyond the standard bumper to bumper that all new cars come with. And I've heard that regular service appointments at the dealership will run $125 AND MORE each time. But I suspect that if even with the standard 3 or 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, your life will be less complicated when you have a claim IF you did take it to the dealership. In 2005 I bought a new Dodge 1 ton dually diesel. I took it in for a recall at about 25k miles. The service tech spotted a Wix oil filter I was using to do my own servicing. He said that not using a Mopar filter would likely give them a reason not to honor and engine claim. Bottom line is they all will look for a way out on an individual basis, anything to deny a claim. If you buy new, my feeling is take it to the dealer to service at regular intervals, no more than 4k to 5k miles even if it says 7.5k. Make your life a little less hell if you have a problem. I bought a Ram 2017 4x4. I always had it serviced at the dealership until the warranty ran out. Now I do it myself and the truck has 31k currently.
THAT's the key. Several makes are using oil now because of designs intended to meet Fed regulations. The GM products especially beginning around 2008 through late teens ALL seemed to use oil. They would last longer if people would just check the oil, keep it topped...but they dont. I have a friend with a quick oil change business. A lady with a couple kids, regular customers, came in while I was there. It was a Chevy Traverse. Out of curiosity, I went into the bay to see him check the oil before he got to work. NOTHING on the stick. And he said it's not the first time. Even if it uses a quart every thousand miles, owner's would get a lot more usage if they'd just check the dang oil at least weekly.
We bought a 2012 kia optima with 129,000 miles on it. Engine gave out a few thousand miles later. Us being the 2nd owner we still got a brand new engine defect free. We now have close to 180k on it and its running strong.
My wife's Elantra had a check engine light come on at 50,000 miles. Took it to the dealer and after checking it, they said it had low compression in cylinder four. They replaced it with a remanned engine and charged me 400.00 dollars copay. I have always changed my own oil, but I thought I am going to have the oil changed here in case there is a problem. Every time I had it changed I would check it the next day after it sat all night. Every time it seemed to be over filled. Next thing I know it develops an oil leak. Took it to the dealer and they said the oil pan gasket was leaking. So, I assume they will pull the pan clean the surfaces new gasket, good to go. Nope they replaced the oil pan and gave mee a bill for 400.00. Since it has that engine cover under the engine, and I did not pull it to have a look, just went by oil on the floor under I will always wonder if maybe the employee may have cross threaded the drain plug and did not want to own up to it but instead had me pay for their error. Lesson learned don't trust the damn stealership.
Not many problems with the South Korean built engines, the Recalled Theta engines come from the Montgomery, Alabama, USA Hyundai/Kia plant. Check your manufacturer sticker on your door jam to see where it was manufactured.
stay ahead while you can and do not purchase from these companies. i have a 11 optima and my mother has a 16 santa fe and we have both dealt with the engine failures. she still drives hers but mine has sat in my driveway since 2020..i just paid it off 3 days ago...i wanted to feel proud but not in that deathtrap. ive only put 30k on it the entire time i have owned it. Steer clear!
I have no experience with a Hyundai, other than the one my daughter bought new in 2010. She is still driving it today. I have no idea about the mileage on the car, and the only repair she has had done was to replace the catalytic converter about two years ago. That seems pretty reliable to me. My suggestion is to do your own research, and never base a decision on other people’s opinions.
I owned two kias, a kia amanti 2006 and a optima and while the amanti looked nice and was comfortable, it had major issues with randomly speeding up then power cutting out. I havent gone back to kia since. Ive had my 2016 honda crv since 2020 and not a single issue.
Iv got a kia sorento 2010 iv got coolant plastic bottle emptying far far too much for a short journey iv had it in to kia bradford United Kingdom and iv still got the same problem can enyone help thanks
My 2016 kia rio started misfiring three months after i paid it off. Mechanic says i need a remanufactured engine. It still runs but oil leaks into the spark plug well sometimes. Just a matter of time before it's blown i guess. My 2012 Kia Soul blew it's engine at 70k miles and it has a rebuilt engine now. Never ever again...smh...
I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata, second owner at 34,000 miles. The engine blew at 81,000 miles. I had most of my service done at a Hyundai dealership and all the paperwork to back it up. I got in touch with Hyundai corporate. The whole ordeal took 4 months. They paid for a new engine and all the cars I rented in the meantime. that came to about $8,000. Working with the dealership aspect is key. If you get your work done at Joe's Garage, that invalidates any kind of warranty that there may be.
My Kia is made by hyundai, and currently won't start... it's been stalling on me since I bought it. (Bad crank position sensor). I replaced it and now it won't fire up. Back to the drawing board...
my Sportage went limp mode on the highway, was still able to drive 50mph. dealership replaced the engine. a few months later smelled gasoline from the engine. dealership replaced the fuel pump. now there's a loud rattle noise for the first few minutes on cold start up.
You can add Elantra to the list, had my 2014 engine replaced by Hyundai no questions asked, took them three days; late 2022. They did offer a loaner that we declined as we did not need one. Gurnee IL dealership. The only issue that KIA/Hyundai have to deal with is they let it go to class action. Better to deal with the issue upfront and not lose reputation. As a side note steer clear of direct injection and or Eco boost engines. They don't self clean as normally aspirated engines do.
GDI engines with GDI only have carbon issues because of their design. Engines which have both GDI and port injection do not have this issue. I would not buy a car with a turbocharged engine because these are high maintenance items which are expensive to fix when they fail.
@@1575murray Who makes both GDI+port injection. The issue to is that they (Ford) calls it ECO Boost with that is the normal consumer going to understand they are getting a turbo with this issue? Most not I"m sure.
Direct injection is found on naturally aspirated and turbo engines. It is becoming harder to stay clear from because the EPA is a corrupt, dishonest organization that spews untruths about the environment that often is so scientifically untrue, it's reprehensible because they cost the economy trillions of dollars based on salespeople who have an organizated high paying job agenda. They have presidents and prime ministers on speed dial. Direct injection (bad) combined with port injection (the old fashioned good and still available in some older tech cars.. Pentastar 3.6 V6, some Hyunkia's and just here and there. Toyota does tout the use of their AT4s system that uses both. The port injectors are supposed to spray in such a way the backs of valves get washed of carbon instead of it building up. It sort of works but not as perfectly as channel creators like The Car Care Nut and many other Toyota guys would have you believe. And what's worse, they cost a fortune in extra engine tech..twice the number of injectors and even many special parts that are 'one-use' parts and must be bought new as soon as the system is breached for any reason due to the extremely high pressures involved unlike port injection. Furthermore, as more scam is revealed, those engines that start to misfire from carbon buildup (can vary but usually north of 50-60k miles (98k km) must be serviced using various methods of crack walnut shells under high pressure and hard to rid the engine of walnut debris after, to highly toxic chemical cleaners that when levels of toxins and the diabolical level of poison going out into the atmosphere out the exhaust from the level of severe corrosive chemical reaction needed to remove baked on carbon. This process is so much more damaging than the absolute minute emissions that modern day ICE engines expell with port injection that get not even 1 mpg poorer mileage. It's just a LOT of political corrupt agendas by all involved. It costs the manufacturers huge, and they just pass these costs onto the consumer. And they don't mind because these dir inj systems just don't last like the old port system with their relative simple affordable tech by comparison. And don't require the ongoing expensive maintenance which damages the environment much more when all factors are weighed. I didn't mention any of the other ramifications of these GDI systems like the high extremely pressure fuel pumps and their complication in how they use power and wear and tear from the engine cam lobes, accessibility, and/or chain drives, all of which add costs, complexity, engine bay crowding (which raises maintenance charges do to more time used to service) etc etc etc. Tech has gone too far now. It used to be very good and improving but now it's become dishonest and not your friend in the world where capitalism is king..at ANY cost to us the consumer. You won't hear info like this because nobody wants you to know the truth. Well, I do and is why I'm spending the effort to educate here. I only ask that you tell your friends and family so they can dig and do their own research. If they search the right sources you'll discover much more details to what I've tried to condense here. Whatever you don't, don't listen to the evening news as they only reiterate what they're told and that just contributes to dishonesty and ignorance. Lastly, Toyota has sold licensing to allow their dual injector use for certain other car brands but depending on engine in that brand it is not used exclusively. They sell to some Ford engines (yes including the ecoboost disasters in their own right with poorly designed cooling passages between cylinders and consequent ongoing head gasket issues) and to Subaru in some of their boxers (Toyota owns .. I forget, 20 or 25% of Subaru?) and certain others. Hope this helps. Many won't even read this because it's more than 4 lines long, in typical YT fashion. If you got this far, good on you for wanting to be more informed about some truths about your car that is not always easy to find out. Very happy you were treated right with your Elantra. Some dealers are great and others leave you lost. Such is big industry and capitalism. The more informed a car owner is, the better your chances of getting treated properly. One last aside.. I recommend changing your oil and OEM filter every 5k miles and in some cases..short trips in the winter, and turbo'd engines etc..even at 3k miles is better still. Always oversee who does it..that they actually reinstalled a new filter and lubed the sealing gasket correctly, the put the drain plug back in and did not overtighten and strip threads and of course that they actually put new oil back in and the correct amount and not overfilled which will put undue pressure on your engine's oil sealing gaskets and cause it to have premature oil leaks. This is all if you pay an oil change joint.. 👍✌️🙏
They tried to deny me for many things, including driveway oil changes. They quickly changed their minds after a lawsuit in witch I'm legally obligated to say kia wasn't at fault and did nothing wrong. But they paid for everything.
Thank you for responding, would you mind letting me know the process you went through? I just got off the phone to see if my vehicle is under the new warranty and they said there was only a rod knock extension.
Is this just USA? I'm in Canada and facing a similar issue. Burning lots of oil, blocked catalytic converter, etc - they're doing a compression test today to send results to hyundai corporate to see if they will warranty. If they won't warranty I will prob never buy another hyundai again
My 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe died on the side of the highway with my wife and kids in the car. 134K miles. My mechanic says he had a tough time finding a replacement engine from a scrap yard. He finally located one, but the yard wants $7k for it. These engines are very sought after apparently. Never buying a Hyundai/Kia again.
@@dr.markevers8331 Thanks, but I bought my Santa Fe used. Hyundai will only cover a replacement engine if you are the original owner. I also brought the car in for an engine recall back in 2018 or 2019.
@@samueljh3 if it's a 2014 Santa Fe with the 4 cylinder engine it has a recall that covers engine replacement due to machining debris in the block and also has a lawsuit settlement that covers engine replacement due to rod bearing failure as long as the knock sensor was updated. Both of these are covered for the lifetime of the vehicle, doesn't matter if you are the first owner or 10th owner.
J became a mechanic after buying a kia. I was tired going to the mechanic three times a week. Learnt how to fix a few things. My vehicle is good now but kia vehicles are made with cheap materials
The Kias and Hyundais sell very well in my area. But I wouldn’t buy one. I don’t see older ones on the road like I see 10-20 year old toyotas and subarus.
My myrtle beach, SC Hyundai dealer didn’t replace my engine because the guy said at the dealer said that recall was closed in 2019 so any way he said my car was bought in Atlanta Hyundai dealer and I hade ta take it there if the recall was still open ..
We had got lucky with our 2021 optima that had 200,000 miles and then gave it our son and then the engine went out at 250,000 miles. I called Kia about just the labor to install a donor engine but they warrantied the engine with a brand new one. It is only warrantied for 12,000 miles so i sure wouldnt be buying a new engine for that little of a warranty.
They replaced my Hyundai engine at 75,000 miles but, the replacement engine is now losing as much oil as the original. I brought it back and they're doing another oil usage test.
I bought my 2016 kis soul new . At 32,000 miles it stated failing. I replaced many parts . Now it runs good . But at a clod start it makes some kind of tapping noise . I can't determine if it's a lifter , timing chine or bad rod . I told the dealer about it . They did nothing to address it . 42,000 miles now still making the noise . I change the oil myself every 4000 miles . After 45 seconds of warming up the sound goes away .
Wygląda to na piston slap. W miarę nagrzewania się silnika tłoki zwiększają swój wymiar i przestają hałasować. Mam kia Rio z przebiegiem 12000 km i delikatnie już zaczyna pukać na zimnym silniku, na razie tylko przy schodzeniu z obrotów. Myślę pozbyć się problemu sprzedając Kia.
Kia optima 2015 died on road knocking became loud . Dad took it to Kia they replacing engine and he hadn't done the recall for knock sensor. Kia doing the right thing . No fighting at all and now my mom just bought a Telluride . 🙏🙏
Can someone tell me why you would buy one of these over a Honda or Toyota? The money savings is not even that big, especially if you amortize it out over 5+ years. What is it like an extra 50 bucks a month for a Honda?
Are you kidding? Have you not heard of the engine issues at Honda? The oil consumption, gas infiltration into the oil pan? Toyota has had their fair share of issues. Those two are NO guarantee of quality like they use to be before they became mass producers. They are better than Hyundai/Kia but that doesn't take much.
Don’t worry your car is fine . It’s only Americans that in love with Japanese cars specially Toyota . In USA a very weird logic which is if you don’t have a Toyota so you are in trouble. I had a Kia for years here in the USA and I do normal maintaining to the engine and everything is fine
I tried kia once.... Bought a fully loaded Sportage sx and it started having issues with cylinder 2. 5 visits with them only wanting to replace the sparkplug. Then they figured out the problem. A control module needed replaced. Then the cat needed replaced and tey tried to deny that because i kept driving the car between visits for the issue with the spark plug. But they are the ones that said to keep driving it unless the check engine light started to flash.. Had to call the HQ to get them to warranty it. I won't even mention how I got their service plan for 3 years of oil changes... Each scheduled visit there were only one or two cars ahead of me. Still took almost 2 hours every time for an oil change. A few times they went ahead and replaced air filters and tried to make me pay for work I didn't ask for. Back to BMW and happy.
My 2 year old Kia Sportage has failed after 17000 miles and no dealer wants it. Told me a year before I get it back but they won't accept it. 3 weeks to get a hire car and still have to pay the lease. Borrow my dad's brand new XC90 and someone has written it off. It's obsolete nightmare! It's cost me a arm and leg to recover the cars
@@MoparAdventure yeh but they literally can't build them 6 months later I don't have my car people have had there's fixed 24 hours later same problem there is no fix.
Moral of the story is stick to reputable brands. I still have a 95 Acura Integra that I bought with 100k years ago. It now has 260k and still running well. I rather buy a used Japanese car than a new Korean or American brand.
@@evoman44 Kia comes high in realibility and brand you expect to be reliable can be pretty low eg, Merc BMW etc. I had type r fn2 it had alot problems just not enough for it to be off the road for so long. But alot people drive like miss daisy so they will never notice the problems
All I know is they have a lot of issues and don't like to admit it. My 2016 optima one day had the oil light come on briefly. Got home, checked oil, it was not there and I mean just a drop showed on dip stick. I really don't know how long I drove with no oil in the car. It turned out to be a leak from head cover but it could have been worse and it would have been my fault for not checking oil.
Hello I purchased my 2018 senta fe sport vehicle in June from GMC dealership with 200k kms and then after 10 days I realized that engine is consuming a lot of oil and I went back to dealership they refused to take vehicle back. They asked me to go Hyundai dealership directly and they’ll fix your issue. They ran oil consultants tests and found that it’s taking massive amount of oil but they declined the warranty by saying it’s too much kms. New engine is costing 10k dollars but global warranty only covers 3000$ so anyone knows any idea how can i get rid of this problem ?
They are charging me $6,000 to $7,500 for a USED engine ONLY, $1200 labor, almost $10,000 in total. Mine has a rod bearing failure, and here's the kicker, this is the second engine that failed in my car, on to the third. Last time, a used engine was $2,500, brand-new ones are going for $5,000... How are you charging me more for a used one when I can get a brand new one for less... Dealers and repair shops worsen by the year, as they've already been scammers... Hyundai and Kia do not want to fix my car, I guess this is the reason.
They denied me. My engine went out on a trip out of state. Valves- they say. No compression. My car is stuck in California at the Kia dealership. This is the second time Kia has denied my warranty. First time was for a rear main seal. No more Kias for me. I love my Sorento, but now what do I do?
You buy an American car made by an American company like Ford, GM, or Chrysler (which is foreign owned now but still based in the US). What did you think would happen buying foreign junk?
Fight it. Look up how all of the parts are connected. Valves are apart of the engine block. Which if you have the ksds update then according to Kia's settlement paperwork you're pretty much covered. Don't let them tell you that your vehicle isn't covered because it isn't throwing rod bearing codes. It takes more than reading engine codes to get to the bottom of things. Your pistons are moved by your rod bearings and pistons with bad clearance can damage your valves and guess what? It's apart of the engine block assembly outlined in the settlement. Rod bearings was not the only thing listed in that settlement.
I was not so lucky with my Pontiac Fiero way back when. These engines had a habit of catching fire. Anyhow, I had to pay a massive $1.00 to get the engine replaced when the recall took place.
My 2015 Kia soul plus is a POS. Engine light blinking every 9 months. Nobody can really figure it out. Everything else has started breaking starting the month I paid the car off.
I used to work at a Hyundai dealership in Canada. Basically, along you have receipts of having an oil change done, you should of been fine. Go back with them with your receipts.
For the love of God don't show up with low oil level, the inspectors will look for any and all reasons to deny your engine replacement. If they ask if you do your own oil changes just make a story and say I paid for them. afterwards I just throw away the receipts. That's probably what happend the couple in the video.
Thank you man fr. My wife’s Hyundai just blew up and I’ve been looking up info all over the place. I know the dealers are shady and I’m glad you told us what to look for and be Leary of
😂 Bought a 2012 Kia Soul with the 2.0 DOHC engine, 97K on odo from the dealership. I thought I would be smart & avoid the GDi engine. Well, the transmission failed at 103K. Last Hyundai/Kia I ever buy .
Okay, I'll bite. What does changing the oil and filter yourself have to do with a warranty? I thought that the US has a law that using after market parts will not void your warranty.
I worked for their corporate office, as a former employee I can say from experience with speak with customers all across the country that yes, look for another car brand besides Hyndai/Kia/Genesis.
My car was not part of the class action lawsuit, but now I’m getting brochures saying the engine is covered and that I would have had to update the ksd sensor already to be covered. I’ve been having engine problems for two years and Hyundai keeps screwing me over
I had to have the engine replaced at a dealership on my 2014 Hyundai Accent because of engine issues. Was told this is a major problem with Hyundai/Kia cars.
I have had good luck with my 2009 Hyundai but I probably wouldn’t buy another one because they seem to make major design changes to their engines every year. I expected Hyundai to continuously improve their designs like Toyota but that’s not what’s happening.
Kia told a owner that in order to get a replacement for the motor that they had to go through all the hoops at the owners expense in order to just get a no compression diagnosis on a cylinder. They are a total wishfull thinking company that sells their brand on service they dont want to render services when the warranty (agreement) within its terms.
*Denied due to "Driveway oil changes". Sounds like a simple lawsuit due to a violation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. You're allowed to change your oil.*
Agreed. Find an attorney. Clear violation of the law.
Unfortunately, most dealers have binding arbitration agreements on purchases with verbiage that protects the manufacturer too. I don't think they'll hold up in court though.
Kia asked for no service documentation from us before replacing our engine.
I have a 2008 Kia Rondo. At 150,000km the timing chain jumped. The Kia Dealer told me that the chain came off and the piston smashed all my valves (zero compression in all cylinders (2.4 engine) ) and that the engine was "Blown". They advised me that there were no "new engines" available but they could secure and install a rebuilt engine for $10,000. Being mechanically minded, I had my car towed home and I took the engine apart myself. I discovered that the 2.4 engine is a non-interference engine, meaning that the pistons cannot reach a fully open valve, therefore my valves and pistons were 100% good. I called the Kia Dealership to complain, they sent the head mechanic to my home to inspect the engine. He blamed a junior mechanic for the error and handed me the new gasket kits and head bolts to put it back together. I then paid $100 for a new timing chain and fixed the car myself. Rondo now has 250,000km and is still running. Just replaced the timing chain again.
Sounds like a service advisor, there job is to lie to you and get work. This give the mechanic hours at full pay since most kia hyundai tech get 1/2 or 3/4 pay of a job because it's warranty work and service advisor get paid commission off sell. They taught us that in mechanic school, that service advisor are not supposed to know about cars to con you into expensive repairs but they can't always lie as it's legal thing. Example:Reasons why they are always saying we recommend to to repair this instead of you need to repair this, mostly on spark plugs that only have 30k miles but the Manuel says the manufacturer says there good for 60 or 80k miles.
When an automaker's engines use timing chains that need replacing as often as a timing belt does... that's the point where I quit buying their bad products.
10K for a Hyundai/Kia engine?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The $10,000 is Canadian or about $7200 US. They said that was the cost of a rebuilt engine and labor to install.@@jamesgullo8240
That's great, Tim. Good read and good on you👍🙏
If only we had more like you out there. They exist, here and there. Always a treat when you find one and read about their good fortune instead of misfortune.
I’ve been a mechanic for over 20 years, and I’m currently still one for the NYCTA, I perform all the oil changes on my fiancés 2014 Tucson and use Hyundai filters, I’d love them to tell me that they are not replacing a bad engine because I’m doing the oil changes myself.
they will replace it some failed to get computer update done etc and claim was denied
@@bikeman1x11 good to know, we have been up to date with all the recall notices, and I save all the receipts for the oil filters I’ve bought.
@@NYPATRIOTBXYou shouldn't have too though when it's a known issue which they should know after a few engines blow with all the proof of maintenance.
@@serpentsilver6323 Luckily we haven’t had any problems so far, it’s only got 64K on it and we’ve taken it on quite a few road trips down south. My fiancé is the second owner and I do hope in the unfortunate event that the motor grenades itself, Hyundai will cover the cost.
while there are engines with manufacturer issues, I think with hyundai attracting people who have less money; I can see people negliecting their maintenance more.
I was tempted to buy a Hyundai Santa Fe several weeks ago when I was in the market for a new car. I'm so glad I went with a Toyota Camry. They're much better cars for your money.
Yep! Although I have a KIA now, I will not buy another at my next purchase and go with Toyota.
nice! how's the 7 % interest ? lol because toyota aint offer nothing but high interest rates with lower warranties HA
@@josuetorres8832uhhh I just bought a new RAV4 last month & got 2.9% interest.
@@josuetorres8832 My interest rate is 6.25%. It’s about the same interest as my last car, so I’m not worried about it.
@@josuetorres8832 Toyotas need a Warranty?
Do it yourself oil changes are normally done more often than what the book recommends. I change my own oil and filter,I've never had a problem. Doing so allows me to check other parts under the car.
When my Tucson started to run sluggish, they wanted proof of oil changes. I would have Amazon auto ship my oil filter and oil every 8 months (I work from home so I don't put as much miles as I did before). I had to provide receipts of all the purchases and I am happy that I logged my oil changes in the car manual maintenance log. He sent it up to Hyundai headquarters and it was approved for further tests to see if I need a new engine. Now I need to put 1000 miles on it and send it back in for more tests.
Yeah, it's weird that the company punishes advanced car drivers, who are able to change their own oil.
You are correct 3000 miles
If engine was full of oil it’s not the driveway oil change causing the blown engine. It’s design flaw /bad engine to begin with
My sister blew the engine in her 2018 Kia Soul with only 90,000 miles, then after a lot of back and forth with Kia for 3 months, they finally put a new engine in it. I said when she gets it back she needs to sell her Soul! 😂
funny. i like that.
What did she say to Kia to make em budge
@@jacobroskos7650 I think she said she was going to get her lawyer involved in it
Had owned Hyundai since 2000 bought a 2017 Santa Fee sport had less than 70 k miles and started using 1.5 quarts of oil in 700 miles , car had warranty that said it covered even the piston rings which was the problem dealer said wouldn’t replace engine until it blows up and dies. Service mgr that was about 20 year old said “ you just need to take your business somewhere else” best thing I could hear went and bought a brand new Lexus , best buying and service experience of my life. Hyundai not only lost my business but my 2 sons wrote them off also
And you past your problems on to some unsuspecting buyer.
@@Theywaswrong yes, I did unto others that did unto me, what was I supposed to do pay to have a new engine and then sue and make the lawyers even richer. Maybe who ever bought it with luck it blew up on the test drive, it was 2 quarts low when I traded. The service mgr said it was my fault for checking the oil between changes, after I gave him the wtf look , he said I should have done like everyone else don’t say anything just drive it until engine knocks up and then I could have gotten a free engine, so you see what my honesty to the dealer resulted in.NEVER NEVER NEVER Hyundai or Kia again
Be careful Lexus dealers cans be thieves too. They tried to rip-off my retired mother for $2400 for a front sway bar…..that an Indy mechanic verified had nothing wrong with it. Swaybars don’t break on 7 year old cars with 65k miles on it. If it did need replacement it’s only $300 and 1-2 hrs labor. They count on their customer base having more money, little knowledge about cars and just approving everything they say to fix. Be wary for anything they needs to be fixed. They try to get you when you bring it in for the every 5k checks and 10k oil changes.
Make sure you take it in for the recall and get the knock sensor installed. My 2014 Sonata’s engine failed in July at 130,000 miles. Took 6 weeks, but Hyundai replaced the engine. If I get another 100k out of it that will be nice. Another issue with Hyundai/Kias are the thefts. Our car insurance rates jumped 40% and my agent couldn’t get quotes from other providers. They were not writing new auto policies due to the thefts.
It’s too bad, because I actually like my sonata. I was considering a Genesis for my next car, but now I don’t know. It took a lawsuit for Hyundai to do the right thing.
SPREAD THE WORD AND TELL PEOPLE NOT TO BOTHER TO TAKE THEIR CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP IF THEY ALSO HAVE A " REBUILT TITLE" AS THE EXTENDED WARRANTY WILL BE VOID. THEY GOT ME FOR $208 FOR THE DIAGNOSTIC KNOWING THAT I HAD A REBUILT TITLE, IM FIGHTING THEM TO GET MY MONEY BACK.
I've done my own oil/filter changes for deades allowing
a 30 + minute drain time and
I Do Not overtighten anything,
overfill or underfill.
If feasible, do it right, do it
yourself.
To hell with Hyundai/Kia.
Very true
I am echoing your response. During a regular oil change, Hyundai installed the knock sensor software on my engine, but did not mention it verbally at all. I just noticed the vague language on my receipt. I've got 80K on the engine. But because of the theft issues, I don't drive it much.
Take your Hyundais to dealerships and trade them in against a Toyota/Honda/Subaru because Hyundai are being really slimy about these issues. My local dealership acted like they'd never hear of this issue I was having but I met a lady I know on the way out (she has the exact same make, model, year of Tucson as mine), who had literally just had to get her engine block replaced for the same reason...these guys are scum
How many people ever lift their bonnets or hoods these days? They just drive and hope for the best.
Well we did see a nice reliability low maintenance Era where you'd hit 200k miles np with minimal maintenance. Since every damn thing needs a turbo and half the cars are using a CVT that's gone out the window and we're seeing 80's level reliability again.
@@Brisco_County_Jr LOL, well said!
Checking the oil use to be a thing. Now days we pretend things are maintenance free. Oil is the key. Many problems are due to ignorance.
Just spun a main bearing in our 2015 soul, the engine is toast. Towed it in Monday got the call Tuesday they are replacing the engine at no cost through our warranty. Hopefully this one will list longer than 60k miles.
I see a lot of Kia Souls on lots.
Seems people always trade them in by around 120,000 miles.
Cool car, but not a,quality brand.
You do understand that they are replacing it with the same engine that has the same defect as the one that blew up. What you should do is sell while it has a new engine because their are plenty of stories of people's new replacement engine's blowing up also. And they won't fix engine's in a car for the life of the car.
Hyundai replaced my engine free of charge when the knock sensor indicated a knock in the engine. The old engine only had 73,000 miles on it. Now I have the newer version so I feel better about it. I use synthetic oil but still change it around 3500 - 4000 miles to keep it clean. I don't care what the recommend.
I love how these marketing companies claim that Kia’s and Hyundais are some of the best quality new vehicles. Pretty bold claim for a company that has been manufacturing defective engines, known for spontaneously combusting and extremely easy to steal vehicles for the last decade. I guess time will tell on the new ones.
True, but they back them up for 10 years or 100,000 miles. We had our engine go in our Santa Fe at about 8 years and 75,000 and got a brand new engine in a car that is in like new condition. We had a brand new loaner for 3-4 weeks----so took a few extra trips in it. And I believe they have upped the warrantees for the cars with the poor engines----by about 2 more years. I had a beautiful Olds Cutlass that had the transmission fail at 13,000 miles----and I had to pay because it was 1000 past warranty. But a class action lawsuit got me 80% of my money back.
@@dennisplatte7506 I read a story about a Kia that made it to over 600k miles and the guy had gotten 7 free engine replacements to get there. I really don’t understand how they haven’t gone completely bankrupt yet. I’ve seen Toyotas go 500k with poor maintenance on the original engine.
@@bobdole870 They are Korean cheabols that are backed by the government of South Korea.
they are the best built and backed- no other company will replace an enginge at or after 100k miles
They know the engines break down. Ours went at 72,000 miles. We could still drive it----but it was losing power. When we took it in----they said leave it here and take this free loaner. No questions asked. Three weeks later we had a new engine, hoses. radiator and many other things. The cost said 9500 dollars-----and we paid about 100 in deductibles. So backing them up with no hassles is nice. They have increased the warrantee to 12 years on some of their problematic engines. And yes----Kia has been picked as the best auto in initial claims. My Old's transmission went at 13,000 miles----in the 1980's.
Did anybody notice the Toyota in driveway of the 2nd couple…lol.😂😂😂
Lol a rav4 😂
They learned the lesson and went with the Japanese lol
Beware not all Japanese brands are great , nissan, Subaru to name a few
@@christianmonreal9303Toyota is the best
@@hialeahasere5510 Toyota has had massive engine problems.
My 2004 Kia Rio has 295,000 kms on it and it doesn't miss a beat. Everything works. I service it myself. I expect to make 500,000 kms. I had a 540i BMW with 409,000 kms on it. Service them if you can.
Okay so I have a2010 Santa Fe and I have already took it apart to try to get another motor and then I found this out can you still replace it
Got my 2013 Kia Sorrento 2.4 AWD. replaced free by dealer at 130,000. I also did my own oil changes and it was not an issue
What did you have to do in order to get the engine replaced?
@@chencho9226 after it was towed to the dealer they ran an engine scan and once the results of the fault codes were recorded the dealership called me back and said that they would be replacing the engine free of charge. It took 3 months for me to get my car back, but I was just happy that I had nothing out of pocket.
@@RJ42997 thank you for your reply my car just died on me last week on the express way I'm going to take it to the dealer this week hopefully they don't make me jump threw hoops just to get it fixed
@@chencho9226 I hope it goes well for you! Let them know that you know about the recall and set that expectation up front. I wish you luck!!
Hey! My engine just failed today and I noticed that I qualify, but I don't want to do or say the wrong things that would disqualify me. I'm trying to gather all this info before telling them anything. What was the process like? My car is at 140,000 2011.
As the advertising says …
Kia … cars that start fires 🔥
I took a chance and bought a 2023 Tucson with the new 2.5 liter engine. I was warned by my excellent salesman to always bring it to a Hyundai dealership for oil changes and transmission service and do it religiously - never be late over the recommended miles. That way if for some reason this new engine is problematic they won't be able to deny a claim. It may sound crazy that I even bought it, but it was such a nice car and I test drove all the competitor's models (RAV4, CRV, Mazda CX50, VW Tiguan, Mitsu Outlander). Plus I got a really good deal - way better than what those other dealers had to offer. So, I thought I'd give Hyundai a chance. Hope I never regret it.
Doesn’t seem to make a difference. My 72 y/o Mother in- law always took her 2019 Kia Soul Turbo who always had it serviced within required intervals at the dealership, needed a new engine at 54,000 miles. Because it happened at the hight of Covid, there were no replacements so they had to do a rebuild instead. She bought it new but she intends to get rid of it before the warranty ends.
change the oil every 3-4000 miles check the oil level regularly and if dsomethings up bring it in and get documentation
There is a reason why that is a “good deal”
@@sparkie996 You just have to be very good about cataloging your receipts to show to them.
I wouldn't worry too much if I were you. Just take care of it like you are supposed to with any vehicle and I expect that you'll get good life out of it. However, I am not sure about their dual clutch transmissions. Ford tried the dry dual clutch thing in their Focus and Festiva and it didn't go so well. I've seen Kias with tons of miles that have had literally zero problems and then I see some that need engines at 50,000 miles. Across all makes and models of vehicles, the difference is almost always in how it is treated.
Yup my sisters 2016 Kia Soul had a bad ticking noise. Kia replaced it with a brand new engine.
My 2013kia sportage just had engine seized, and kia dealership said the warranty just expired in 2023 just few months ago.. and there is no recall on this one..
Yesterday we picked up my wife's Kia Sorento with a brand new engine. It had 100,000 miles, but the head gasket was blown. Had we not been able to use the extended warranty it would have gone to the junkyard. We were grateful that we got a new engine, but it was at the dealership for 72 days. That was a real hassle.
It happened to me. I bought a brand new Hyundai Sante Fe in 2015. It was not even a year old. I was driving from Austin, TX to my hometown outside of Shreveport, LA. There are no interstates between the 2 cities so alot of back roads/high ways. I was driving down one of these roads when I heard a clinking sound. I noticed I could not get over 60 miles an hour. I called my friend in Austin to ask him should I pull over...he told me keep driving until I couldn't drive anymore. Finally, I made it home. Took it to the dealership in Shreveport, LA and they stated it was some metal shavings in the engine and that they would replace the engine free of charge. I asked did they plan on doing a recall? The Service Tech said they were going to take them as they come in. So, like this video...some people are driving around as 2nd owners of these cars who might not know about the free engines. Hyundai had my vehicle for over a month because the engine had to come from Korea or something like that and there were 13 cars before me. I can say I still have the vehicle, but have not had major problems since then.
Unfortunately there aren't many value for money options out there as Hyundai and kia brings, so it's luck of a draw if you get a lasting car or bad car. Also many people don't really do proper maintance
Honda, Toyota, Mazda
@@blackout07blue honda reliability is going down, the rest are boring. I'd never chose camry accord or mazda 6 over Sonata Nline or K5 gt or N cars. They just not on the same level.
@@i.d.6492 then buy a tesla you nerd. And good luck with the insurance
Warranty wprk cannot be denied because you do work on your own vehicle. I looked into that when I bought my new Toyota. You need to keep records of the services you perform though.
It is a federal law that you can work on your own vehicle and not void the warranty. www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/blog/2022/07/ftc-announces-three-right-repair-cases-do-your-warranties-comply-law
I have a 2016 Sonata sport. And I really like the car. Because they have become a very high theft items as well as the engine issue that you guys are discussing on this broadcast. Plus the fact that my insurance company increased my rate by almost 30%, which I'm sure is related to the high theft issues. I'm finally selling it even though it's in totally mint condition and I have personally had no issues. An online auto retailer is buying it for about 48% of what I paid for it new 7 years ago. Yes the depreciation hurts, but other dealers were going to give me even less, by thousands.
No I don't want any damn new car payments I hate that. So I will be looking for a used Honda or Toyota.
Be careful with Honda. Do your research. I have owned them in the past with excellent results, but the last 6 years or so,,,,. Two relatives both had high oil consumption. One traded his CRV in on a Mazda CX5. The other said the dealership (stealership) said the consumption was normal. She said she trusted the dealership and none of the online horror stories. She suffered mild frostbite to her hands before the tow truck or family (me) could get to her when the engine went and she was way out in the countryside!! It was -35C with wind chills in the -55C (-68F) range. We warmed her up in the truck & had extra blankets etc to warm her up. She is ok now, but has numbness in her finger tips.
She is fighting with the dealership over the motor under warranty. She now drives a 2022 Subaru Crosstrek. I have met with the dealership and they are treating her better. She is my niece. Her parents are kinda timid. They are going to replace the engine under warranty at last, but they won’t extend the warranty. The CRV will be sold once she gets it back. The poor service isn’t Honda’s fault. The engine failing prematurely, is. Honda has had some reliability issues as of late and unfortunately, both of the only family members with Honda’s, both CRVs, have had engine issues. Toyota,,,, hard to beat. I say this not exactly liking Toyota, but that’s just a quirk of mine.
Good luck, but remember, things change over time. In 2006-2009 if you had a 2.7 V6 from Hyundai/Kia, you had a very good vehicle!! The4 cylinder from then wasn’t too great. They have gone downhill since, it seems.
I got rid of a Hyundai 2016 with the same engine that is in this you tube video. Between that potential loss and the cars are high theft targets, and the fact that I found out first hand, that 'insurance companies woud NOT insure it, when I tried to renew recent, that was enough for me. I did not get the Honda with the small displacement turbo charged engine. I got the hybrid, with a regular 2 liter hybrid powertrain, which today, produced a whopping 51 miles per gallon, on a 200 mile trip. I'm amazed how solid it is with 72K miles on it. @@shitloveaduck
Toyota, Honda, Acura, Lexus
That's what I got a used Honda Accord Hybrid. Achieved 51mpg today on a 200 mile trip. Yes!@@mr.foxwiz1653
I have a 2016 kia soul that has burned oil since day 1, since I just kept putting oil in the engine it has lasted until 250k miles, will they replace my engine or claim I got my use out of it, bunch of bs.
Well they haven’t fixed it because the 2023 Kia Sportage we rented blew an engine with no warning.
What would you buy then?
My 72 buick gs 455 needs an alternator already and its only 52 years old 2:06
Very nice car! Too bad that by '72 they had choked the horsepower out of them.
1970 GS Stage-1 455 is my dream car.
And you can rebuild it for $30.
But you've spent enough on gas to buy a new car.
We have a 2015 sonata with the 2.4l engine. At just 116k miles the engine randomly started misfiring and the check engine light came on while driving down the highway. After limping it home I got the car scanned and it showed a misfire in the 3rd cylinder. After attempting small fixes like spark plugs and plug wires I decided to take it to Long Hyundai, this was my second mistake aside from buying a junk Hyundai in the first place. I stopped taking our car there for oil changes initially because I found an oil filter I had changed the last time still on the car after I paid them for an oil and filter change. With the car at Long, Chris from service stated it had no compression in the 3rd cylinder and it needed head work ($5300), but was pushed to do an engine replacement which was quoted to me at $7-8k, that I would be responsible for. After trying and getting no real diagnosis on the actual problem and a very difficult time trying to communicate with the service department, I picked the car up and coughed up the $200 “diagnostic” fee for nothing. Once I picked up the car I finally got the service report and the diagnosis was “blown head gasket.” I did not have a single symptom of a blown head gasket- no coolant in the oil, no overheating, no smoke out of the exhaust, coolant was clean in the over flow tank with no bubbling.
I immediately drove to S&S Auto for a second opinion and they quickly found metal material in my oil and no symptoms of a head gasket issue. Long either completely missed this or did not want to tell me. I personally saw the shavings in the oil when I picked it up from S&S. They advised me about the warranty campaign Hyundai has on the 2.4liter engines and they didn’t charge me anything for the diagnostics. After doing my own research I decided to take it back to a dealership to have them handle the situation. I called the service director-John- at Long Hyundai to explain the situation and told him I was taking the car to a different Hyundai service center to reassess. He did not care that I was taking it to another dealership after Long has misdiagnosed the issue. John just told me, “Well let me know what they find.” (Tried getting a hold of him multiple times since and have never gotten a call back)
After moving the car to a third shop, this time Mnt View Hyundai, which is about an hour from my house, I talked to Brian about what was going on and he stated they have been cleaning up a lot of issues from Long. After he had the car for a couple of days he stated he had found the metal shavings in the oil and that the car was misfiring and it should be taken care of under Hyundai’s warranty campaign 953 for excessive bearing wear on the crank. He went back and forth with Hyundai Motors America and I had to give them all my receipts for the oil changes I had done and they stated that my issue was not covered under warranty since my engine wasn’t knocking or locked up yet (basically because it hadn’t left me stranded on the side of the road), but that they would cover 85% of the replaced engine. After fighting for another week and hours on the phone with Hyundai’s warranty departments and Hyundai customer care with no resolve, I had agreed to cover the 15% that Hyundai wouldn’t cover. I was still mad they wouldn’t cover 100% from their own warranty, but it was better knowing Long was going to charge me $7-8k. Brian helped me get a rental car covered from Hyundai since some of the items were on back order. I was very grateful for that since I hadn’t had the car for two weeks at this point.
A couple weeks later Brian called me and stated the car should be ready in a day or two and suggested random replacements, like air filters and brakes (all I take care of myself and have receipts on the last time I changed them) I picked up the car and paid my 15% of the cost which ended up being $828. I told him I wanted a test drive, no offense to him or the dealership, but I can’t trust anyone. Upon entering the vehicle I noticed the abs light and traction light on and the blind spot detection wasn’t working. I took it for a drive and went back and talked to Brian about that, stating there was no issue with this when I brought it. He had a tech sheet stating they ran the code when they got the car and it was on. I asked why it was never brought up to me while the car was in his shop for almost 3 weeks. He stated the tech ran some tests and stated it was operating properly and didn’t want to sell me a part I didn’t need. I stated having the abs and traction light on could be dangerous and could malfunction and he stated “it won’t lock up” and “it’s fine”. However, he did offer to fix the issue for free labor and I pay for the part, which was $360. I told him I wasn’t giving Hyundai any more money and drove my car home with all three of those lights on my dash. I am glad the car has a new engine and Brian did help me out with a lot of things, but there are still issues that should have been taken care of that just weren’t. The last month with the car and dealing with all of Hyundai has been beyond frustrating and I now have a car I don’t trust or feel safe in. They have definitely lost me and my family as customers and I hope anyone reading this will think twice before buying anything made by Hyundai.
You win the prize for the longest post ever. Do you think people actually read the entire novel?
@@mr.wilson8340 thanks for the reply! hopefully they do read it, so they can see the truth about Hyundai. Have a great day!
I was going to get a kia in the morning. After some last minute research I have decided that I'll be keeping my Impala
I constantly laugh when people tell me “Hyundai makes good cars”… I worked for them and all we did was replace engines and electrics. Junk brand. Toyota/Lexus, Mazda, or Honda/Acura is the way to go.
I made the mistake of believing in hyundai, and now I'm actually saving money by having a brand new Honda with a payment. The low-mileage, paid-off Hyundai had so many issues, that the brand new Honda is actually costing me less per year... I'm relieved, but cannot stress enough that those kias & Hyundais are not long-haul cars.
I also made this mistake. I thought the 10yr, 100k mile warranty was worth it...but what's the use of a warranty if you have to fight tooth and nail to get something fixed without having to pay? Just traded my '17 Sonata Sport that was burning oil like crazy, and had a few other issues starting to pop up, for a '23 Highlander XSE
Agree. Honda, acura, Toyota, lexus, and Mazda are only wehicles worth buying.
@@ABC-nv8ly I've heard some reports of Honda engine issues...but not sure how true they are. I'd be surprised if it's actually widespread and not just a few isolated issues.
@GriffXJ that's the best decision you ever made, Toyota is the way to go.
My 2018 Kia Soul engine blew at 165k miles while driving to work. New knock sensor installed as well. Leading up to this, my car was burning 1 quart of oil every 200 miles. Oil was changed every 3000 miles.
Law or not, I was shopping around for a new car. That Hyundai/Kia 10 year power train warranty LOOKS good. But google the terms and you'll find that to GET that 10 year warranty, it HAS TO BE SERVICED at a Hyundai/Kia dealership. Now, I know all about the part where legally you don't have to. The part I don't know about is the EXTENDED power train warranty part, beyond the standard bumper to bumper that all new cars come with. And I've heard that regular service appointments at the dealership will run $125 AND MORE each time. But I suspect that if even with the standard 3 or 5 year bumper to bumper warranty, your life will be less complicated when you have a claim IF you did take it to the dealership. In 2005 I bought a new Dodge 1 ton dually diesel. I took it in for a recall at about 25k miles. The service tech spotted a Wix oil filter I was using to do my own servicing. He said that not using a Mopar filter would likely give them a reason not to honor and engine claim. Bottom line is they all will look for a way out on an individual basis, anything to deny a claim. If you buy new, my feeling is take it to the dealer to service at regular intervals, no more than 4k to 5k miles even if it says 7.5k. Make your life a little less hell if you have a problem. I bought a Ram 2017 4x4. I always had it serviced at the dealership until the warranty ran out. Now I do it myself and the truck has 31k currently.
I have a 3.3 V6, oil burner, I check and top off when fueling up.
THAT's the key. Several makes are using oil now because of designs intended to meet Fed regulations. The GM products especially beginning around 2008 through late teens ALL seemed to use oil. They would last longer if people would just check the oil, keep it topped...but they dont. I have a friend with a quick oil change business. A lady with a couple kids, regular customers, came in while I was there. It was a Chevy Traverse. Out of curiosity, I went into the bay to see him check the oil before he got to work. NOTHING on the stick. And he said it's not the first time. Even if it uses a quart every thousand miles, owner's would get a lot more usage if they'd just check the dang oil at least weekly.
We bought a 2012 kia optima with 129,000 miles on it. Engine gave out a few thousand miles later. Us being the 2nd owner we still got a brand new engine defect free. We now have close to 180k on it and its running strong.
My hyundai accent 2014. Only changed the battery 1 year ago. It is running like new🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
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Had a recall on my 2013 Sonata, I do have paperwork in the glove box that warrants me a free engine should something happen.
My wife's Elantra had a check engine light come on at 50,000 miles. Took it to the dealer and after checking it, they said it had low compression in cylinder four. They replaced it with a remanned engine and charged me 400.00 dollars copay. I have always changed my own oil, but I thought I am going to have the oil changed here in case there is a problem. Every time I had it changed I would check it the next day after it sat all night. Every time it seemed to be over filled. Next thing I know it develops an oil leak. Took it to the dealer and they said the oil pan gasket was leaking. So, I assume they will pull the pan clean the surfaces new gasket, good to go. Nope they replaced the oil pan and gave mee a bill for 400.00. Since it has that engine cover under the engine, and I did not pull it to have a look, just went by oil on the floor under I will always wonder if maybe the employee may have cross threaded the drain plug and did not want to own up to it but instead had me pay for their error. Lesson learned don't trust the damn stealership.
Not many problems with the South Korean built engines, the Recalled Theta engines come from the Montgomery, Alabama, USA Hyundai/Kia plant. Check your manufacturer sticker on your door jam to see where it was manufactured.
Correct! My Kia 2011 Sportage was made in Korea. It has 312,000 miles and is still running perfectly.
stay ahead while you can and do not purchase from these companies. i have a 11 optima and my mother has a 16 santa fe and we have both dealt with the engine failures. she still drives hers but mine has sat in my driveway since 2020..i just paid it off 3 days ago...i wanted to feel proud but not in that deathtrap. ive only put 30k on it the entire time i have owned it. Steer clear!
My clutch is slipping on my 2004 Toyota Tacoma 5-speed manual. It only has 293k miles on it.
Stinker!
I have no experience with a Hyundai, other than the one my daughter bought new in 2010. She is still driving it today. I have no idea about the mileage on the car, and the only repair she has had done was to replace the catalytic converter about two years ago. That seems pretty reliable to me. My suggestion is to do your own research, and never base a decision on other people’s opinions.
I owned two kias, a kia amanti 2006 and a optima and while the amanti looked nice and was comfortable, it had major issues with randomly speeding up then power cutting out. I havent gone back to kia since. Ive had my 2016 honda crv since 2020 and not a single issue.
I have a work vehicle 2018 kia niro hybrid with 170,080 miles and it runs beautifully .
Iv got a kia sorento 2010 iv got coolant plastic bottle emptying far far too much for a short journey iv had it in to kia bradford United Kingdom and iv still got the same problem can enyone help thanks
My 2016 kia rio started misfiring three months after i paid it off. Mechanic says i need a remanufactured engine. It still runs but oil leaks into the spark plug well sometimes. Just a matter of time before it's blown i guess.
My 2012 Kia Soul blew it's engine at 70k miles and it has a rebuilt engine now.
Never ever again...smh...
If oil leaking into spark plugs. Causing misfires you need a new mechanic. And a new valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals.
No power steering no power brakes? Was it an electrical issue. Or did the engine die before that.
My genesis works just fine 🤷♂️. best car I've ever had.
Happened to mine at 85k. I got a replacement engine but I had to rent a car for 10 weeks and Kia gave me a hard time about reimbursing the cost.
How did you go through the process? Mine just blew at 91k and no idea what to do
@@albertsalim6995 I brought the car to a Kia dealer. They took care of the rest.
Might receive a new engine ?
I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata, second owner at 34,000 miles. The engine blew at 81,000 miles. I had most of my service done at a Hyundai dealership and all the paperwork to back it up. I got in touch with Hyundai corporate. The whole ordeal took 4 months. They paid for a new engine and all the cars I rented in the meantime. that came to about $8,000. Working with the dealership aspect is key. If you get your work done at Joe's Garage, that invalidates any kind of warranty that there may be.
My coworker has a 6 months old sonta and headlights are already hazing . That by itself speaks to the quality of these cars.
My Kia is made by hyundai, and currently won't start... it's been stalling on me since I bought it. (Bad crank position sensor). I replaced it and now it won't fire up. Back to the drawing board...
my Sportage went limp mode on the highway, was still able to drive 50mph. dealership replaced the engine. a few months later smelled gasoline from the engine. dealership replaced the fuel pump. now there's a loud rattle noise for the first few minutes on cold start up.
You can add Elantra to the list, had my 2014 engine replaced by Hyundai no questions asked, took them three days; late 2022. They did offer a loaner that we declined as we did not need one. Gurnee IL dealership. The only issue that KIA/Hyundai have to deal with is they let it go to class action. Better to deal with the issue upfront and not lose reputation. As a side note steer clear of direct injection and or Eco boost engines. They don't self clean as normally aspirated engines do.
GDI engines with GDI only have carbon issues because of their design. Engines which have both GDI and port injection do not have this issue. I would not buy a car with a turbocharged engine because these are high maintenance items which are expensive to fix when they fail.
@@1575murray Who makes both GDI+port injection. The issue to is that they (Ford) calls it ECO Boost with that is the normal consumer going to understand they are getting a turbo with this issue? Most not I"m sure.
Toyota always (almost always?) includes port injection with GDI.
Direct injection is found on naturally aspirated and turbo engines. It is becoming harder to stay clear from because the EPA is a corrupt, dishonest organization that spews untruths about the environment that often is so scientifically untrue, it's reprehensible because they cost the economy trillions of dollars based on salespeople who have an organizated high paying job agenda. They have presidents and prime ministers on speed dial.
Direct injection (bad) combined with port injection (the old fashioned good and still available in some older tech cars.. Pentastar 3.6 V6, some Hyunkia's and just here and there.
Toyota does tout the use of their AT4s system that uses both. The port injectors are supposed to spray in such a way the backs of valves get washed of carbon instead of it building up. It sort of works but not as perfectly as channel creators like The Car Care Nut and many other Toyota guys would have you believe. And what's worse, they cost a fortune in extra engine tech..twice the number of injectors and even many special parts that are 'one-use' parts and must be bought new as soon as the system is breached for any reason due to the extremely high pressures involved unlike port injection. Furthermore, as more scam is revealed, those engines that start to misfire from carbon buildup (can vary but usually north of 50-60k miles (98k km) must be serviced using various methods of crack walnut shells under high pressure and hard to rid the engine of walnut debris after, to highly toxic chemical cleaners that when levels of toxins and the diabolical level of poison going out into the atmosphere out the exhaust from the level of severe corrosive chemical reaction needed to remove baked on carbon. This process is so much more damaging than the absolute minute emissions that modern day ICE engines expell with port injection that get not even 1 mpg poorer mileage. It's just a LOT of political corrupt agendas by all involved. It costs the manufacturers huge, and they just pass these costs onto the consumer. And they don't mind because these dir inj systems just don't last like the old port system with their relative simple affordable tech by comparison. And don't require the ongoing expensive maintenance which damages the environment much more when all factors are weighed. I didn't mention any of the other ramifications of these GDI systems like the high extremely pressure fuel pumps and their complication in how they use power and wear and tear from the engine cam lobes, accessibility, and/or chain drives, all of which add costs, complexity, engine bay crowding (which raises maintenance charges do to more time used to service) etc etc etc. Tech has gone too far now. It used to be very good and improving but now it's become dishonest and not your friend in the world where capitalism is king..at ANY cost to us the consumer. You won't hear info like this because nobody wants you to know the truth. Well, I do and is why I'm spending the effort to educate here. I only ask that you tell your friends and family so they can dig and do their own research. If they search the right sources you'll discover much more details to what I've tried to condense here. Whatever you don't, don't listen to the evening news as they only reiterate what they're told and that just contributes to dishonesty and ignorance.
Lastly, Toyota has sold licensing to allow their dual injector use for certain other car brands but depending on engine in that brand it is not used exclusively. They sell to some Ford engines (yes including the ecoboost disasters in their own right with poorly designed cooling passages between cylinders and consequent ongoing head gasket issues) and to Subaru in some of their boxers (Toyota owns .. I forget, 20 or 25% of Subaru?) and certain others.
Hope this helps. Many won't even read this because it's more than 4 lines long, in typical YT fashion. If you got this far, good on you for wanting to be more informed about some truths about your car that is not always easy to find out.
Very happy you were treated right with your Elantra. Some dealers are great and others leave you lost. Such is big industry and capitalism. The more informed a car owner is, the better your chances of getting treated properly.
One last aside.. I recommend changing your oil and OEM filter every 5k miles and in some cases..short trips in the winter, and turbo'd engines etc..even at 3k miles is better still. Always oversee who does it..that they actually reinstalled a new filter and lubed the sealing gasket correctly, the put the drain plug back in and did not overtighten and strip threads and of course that they actually put new oil back in and the correct amount and not overfilled which will put undue pressure on your engine's oil sealing gaskets and cause it to have premature oil leaks. This is all if you pay an oil change joint..
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@@curiosity2314Toyota does.
They tried to deny me for many things, including driveway oil changes. They quickly changed their minds after a lawsuit in witch I'm legally obligated to say kia wasn't at fault and did nothing wrong. But they paid for everything.
tell me more, we are in the same boat and on the verge of being denied because of inadequate maintenance records
Do you know if this applies to second owners?
Thank you for responding, would you mind letting me know the process you went through? I just got off the phone to see if my vehicle is under the new warranty and they said there was only a rod knock extension.
@@Taco_Lover. ah I must not be eligible then, thank you
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Is this just USA? I'm in Canada and facing a similar issue. Burning lots of oil, blocked catalytic converter, etc - they're doing a compression test today to send results to hyundai corporate to see if they will warranty. If they won't warranty I will prob never buy another hyundai again
I am in the same boat. Which model do you have and which dealership you went to?
Burning oil won’t get you a replacement only until major failure
Id like that new engine though more miles without worry
My 2014 Hyundai Santa Fe died on the side of the highway with my wife and kids in the car. 134K miles. My mechanic says he had a tough time finding a replacement engine from a scrap yard. He finally located one, but the yard wants $7k for it. These engines are very sought after apparently. Never buying a Hyundai/Kia again.
Dealership should replace it under the settlement…but they’ll deny it if you didn’t do the recall inspection/knock sensor install in 2021.
@@dr.markevers8331 Thanks, but I bought my Santa Fe used. Hyundai will only cover a replacement engine if you are the original owner. I also brought the car in for an engine recall back in 2018 or 2019.
@@samueljh3 if it's a 2014 Santa Fe with the 4 cylinder engine it has a recall that covers engine replacement due to machining debris in the block and also has a lawsuit settlement that covers engine replacement due to rod bearing failure as long as the knock sensor was updated. Both of these are covered for the lifetime of the vehicle, doesn't matter if you are the first owner or 10th owner.
@@samueljh3 Might want to push back on that harder. I'm a second owner and I got approved for an engine replacement.
J became a mechanic after buying a kia. I was tired going to the mechanic three times a week. Learnt how to fix a few things. My vehicle is good now but kia vehicles are made with cheap materials
The Kias and Hyundais sell very well in my area. But I wouldn’t buy one. I don’t see older ones on the road like I see 10-20 year old toyotas and subarus.
Sell well because they’re cheaper than Toyota and Honda.
Toyota has been around twice as long as Kia.
I am ..maybe 2 weeks away from getting a new engine. Does the dealer give you a free rental car for the engine replace wait????
My 2014 kia rio tec also got engine noise.. started noise on 30000km second service 😢
My myrtle beach, SC Hyundai dealer didn’t replace my engine because the guy said at the dealer said that recall was closed in 2019 so any way he said my car was bought in Atlanta Hyundai dealer and I hade ta take it there if the recall was still open ..
Well, My Sante Fe(2016) still working well without any issue.
We had got lucky with our 2021 optima that had 200,000 miles and then gave it our son and then the engine went out at 250,000 miles. I called Kia about just the labor to install a donor engine but they warrantied the engine with a brand new one. It is only warrantied for 12,000 miles so i sure wouldnt be buying a new engine for that little of a warranty.
Sweet How about for Dodge Durango?
They replaced my Hyundai engine at 75,000 miles but, the replacement engine is now losing as much oil as the original. I brought it back and they're doing another oil usage test.
10year warranty?
I bought my 2016 kis soul new . At 32,000 miles it stated failing. I replaced many parts . Now it runs good . But at a clod start it makes some kind of tapping noise . I can't determine if it's a lifter , timing chine or bad rod . I told the dealer about it . They did nothing to address it . 42,000 miles now still making the noise . I change the oil myself every 4000 miles . After 45 seconds of warming up the sound goes away .
Wygląda to na piston slap. W miarę nagrzewania się silnika tłoki zwiększają swój wymiar i przestają hałasować. Mam kia Rio z przebiegiem 12000 km i delikatnie już zaczyna pukać na zimnym silniku, na razie tylko przy schodzeniu z obrotów. Myślę pozbyć się problemu sprzedając Kia.
Kia optima 2015 died on road knocking became loud . Dad took it to Kia they replacing engine and he hadn't done the recall for knock sensor. Kia doing the right thing . No fighting at all and now my mom just bought a Telluride . 🙏🙏
Can someone tell me why you would buy one of these over a Honda or Toyota? The money savings is not even that big, especially if you amortize it out over 5+ years. What is it like an extra 50 bucks a month for a Honda?
Are you kidding? Have you not heard of the engine issues at Honda? The oil consumption, gas infiltration into the oil pan? Toyota has had their fair share of issues. Those two are NO guarantee of quality like they use to be before they became mass producers. They are better than Hyundai/Kia but that doesn't take much.
Toyota, Honda, Mazda … I’m about them.
I got 2017 kia sportage is this only in US, I lived in Canada?
Don’t worry your car is fine . It’s only Americans that in love with Japanese cars specially Toyota . In USA a very weird logic which is if you don’t have a Toyota so you are in trouble. I had a Kia for years here in the USA and I do normal maintaining to the engine and everything is fine
If you dont get your computer updated, they will deny you a new engine.
I tried kia once.... Bought a fully loaded Sportage sx and it started having issues with cylinder 2. 5 visits with them only wanting to replace the sparkplug. Then they figured out the problem. A control module needed replaced. Then the cat needed replaced and tey tried to deny that because i kept driving the car between visits for the issue with the spark plug. But they are the ones that said to keep driving it unless the check engine light started to flash.. Had to call the HQ to get them to warranty it.
I won't even mention how I got their service plan for 3 years of oil changes... Each scheduled visit there were only one or two cars ahead of me. Still took almost 2 hours every time for an oil change. A few times they went ahead and replaced air filters and tried to make me pay for work I didn't ask for.
Back to BMW and happy.
My 2 year old Kia Sportage has failed after 17000 miles and no dealer wants it. Told me a year before I get it back but they won't accept it. 3 weeks to get a hire car and still have to pay the lease. Borrow my dad's brand new XC90 and someone has written it off. It's obsolete nightmare! It's cost me a arm and leg to recover the cars
Hey there was a class action kia must rebuild the engine.
@@MoparAdventure yeh but they literally can't build them 6 months later I don't have my car people have had there's fixed 24 hours later same problem there is no fix.
Moral of the story is stick to reputable brands. I still have a 95 Acura Integra that I bought with 100k years ago. It now has 260k and still running well. I rather buy a used Japanese car than a new Korean or American brand.
@@evoman44 Kia comes high in realibility and brand you expect to be reliable can be pretty low eg, Merc BMW etc. I had type r fn2 it had alot problems just not enough for it to be off the road for so long. But alot people drive like miss daisy so they will never notice the problems
Is it okay if you lease them only
All I know is they have a lot of issues and don't like to admit it. My 2016 optima one day had the oil light come on briefly. Got home, checked oil, it was not there and I mean just a drop showed on dip stick. I really don't know how long I drove with no oil in the car. It turned out to be a leak from head cover but it could have been worse and it would have been my fault for not checking oil.
Hello I purchased my 2018 senta fe sport vehicle in June from GMC dealership with 200k kms and then after 10 days I realized that engine is consuming a lot of oil and I went back to dealership they refused to take vehicle back. They asked me to go Hyundai dealership directly and they’ll fix your issue. They ran oil consultants tests and found that it’s taking massive amount of oil but they declined the warranty by saying it’s too much kms.
New engine is costing 10k dollars but global warranty only covers 3000$ so anyone knows any idea how can i get rid of this problem ?
If it has insurance, get it" stollen."
They are charging me $6,000 to $7,500 for a USED engine ONLY, $1200 labor, almost $10,000 in total. Mine has a rod bearing failure, and here's the kicker, this is the second engine that failed in my car, on to the third. Last time, a used engine was $2,500, brand-new ones are going for $5,000... How are you charging me more for a used one when I can get a brand new one for less... Dealers and repair shops worsen by the year, as they've already been scammers... Hyundai and Kia do not want to fix my car, I guess this is the reason.
The trick is to buy cars that need the dealership as little as possible... Can I interest you in a used Honda?
Serves you right
Or perhaps some would see all this as a nudge towards the fine products of Toyota.
I’ve never heard of an engine replacement for less than $8,000.
They denied me. My engine went out on a trip out of state. Valves- they say. No compression. My car is stuck in California at the Kia dealership. This is the second time Kia has denied my warranty. First time was for a rear main seal. No more Kias for me. I love my Sorento, but now what do I do?
On your recent one They denied you because warranty covers rod bearing failure, not valve failure
You buy an American car made by an American company like Ford, GM, or Chrysler (which is foreign owned now but still based in the US). What did you think would happen buying foreign junk?
Fight it. Look up how all of the parts are connected. Valves are apart of the engine block. Which if you have the ksds update then according to Kia's settlement paperwork you're pretty much covered. Don't let them tell you that your vehicle isn't covered because it isn't throwing rod bearing codes. It takes more than reading engine codes to get to the bottom of things. Your pistons are moved by your rod bearings and pistons with bad clearance can damage your valves and guess what? It's apart of the engine block assembly outlined in the settlement. Rod bearings was not the only thing listed in that settlement.
@@VinylToVideojust ford gm and chrysler went to shit lol
@@VinylToVideoMade in Mexico and China
I was not so lucky with my Pontiac Fiero way back when. These engines had a habit of catching fire. Anyhow, I had to pay a massive $1.00 to get the engine replaced when the recall took place.
Anyone have to get a 2nd engine from them?? I wonder if the new engines are BAD as well!!
Even so they are going to install a new engine but it’s the same as the previous one.
My 2015 Kia soul plus is a POS. Engine light blinking every 9 months. Nobody can really figure it out. Everything else has started breaking starting the month I paid the car off.
The dealer for my 2019 said that I didn't have the oil changes at their location, they denied the totaled engine.
they are giving you the run around - take it back and stand your ground !!!
I used to work at a Hyundai dealership in Canada. Basically, along you have receipts of having an oil change done, you should of been fine. Go back with them with your receipts.
For the love of God don't show up with low oil level, the inspectors will look for any and all reasons to deny your engine replacement. If they ask if you do your own oil changes just make a story and say I paid for them. afterwards I just throw away the receipts. That's probably what happend the couple in the video.
Thank you man fr. My wife’s Hyundai just blew up and I’ve been looking up info all over the place. I know the dealers are shady and I’m glad you told us what to look for and be Leary of
Why would driveway oil changes stop a replacemwnt engine? They can not make you bring it in to them other than waurrenty work.
That's the law, but they can make your life hell and make you work for warranty work.
😂 Bought a 2012 Kia Soul with the 2.0 DOHC engine, 97K on odo from the dealership. I thought I would be smart & avoid the GDi engine. Well, the transmission failed at 103K. Last Hyundai/Kia I ever buy .
Okay, I'll bite. What does changing the oil and filter yourself have to do with a warranty? I thought that the US has a law that using after market parts will not void your warranty.
I worked for their corporate office, as a former employee I can say from experience with speak with customers all across the country that yes, look for another car brand besides Hyndai/Kia/Genesis.
Kia denied me twice even though i provided many of receipts from the dealership should i give up
My car was not part of the class action lawsuit, but now I’m getting brochures saying the engine is covered and that I would have had to update the ksd sensor already to be covered. I’ve been having engine problems for two years and Hyundai keeps screwing me over
I had to have the engine replaced at a dealership on my 2014 Hyundai Accent because of engine issues. Was told this is a major problem with Hyundai/Kia cars.
What happens to old ass tsx' too and my motor was almost 6gs smfh
I have had good luck with my 2009 Hyundai but I probably wouldn’t buy another one because they seem to make major design changes to their engines every year. I expected Hyundai to continuously improve their designs like Toyota but that’s not what’s happening.
Eso quiero que el mio se lo cambien ya van tres amigo mio ojala toque yo con la misma suerte ahora que lo lleve sonata 2012
Kia told a owner that in order to get a replacement for the motor that they had to go through all the hoops at the owners expense in order to just get a no compression diagnosis on a cylinder. They are a total wishfull thinking company that sells their brand on service they dont want to render services when the warranty (agreement) within its terms.
I want free engine replacement for my car kia sorento BL or otherwise, i just swap old engine to toyota 1JZTE
The same shit still happens? Damn, back in 2015 my Hyundai Sonata blew its engine on the freeway, crazy that its still happening
What's the use of replacing a poor engine with another one of the same?