I Gambled & Lost - Kia is Having Some Serious Issues and I bought one!
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movie is Waterworld?
Check the outlet on the cold side of the turbo.Unhook the pipe going into the throttle body or intercooler.
ring the guys that offered 21k?
Props to that KIA dealer for treating you right.
Only when you brought a camera
Your English is terrible. "treating you right" is not grammatically correct.
@@jwuhome It's completely unfair to say it was only because of his camera. I don't recall them being shown on camera. The warranty is offered by Kia, not the dealer, and the dealer gets reimbursed for the parts and service of all warranty work. The dealer is responsible for making sure the terms of warranty are enforced, such as proper maintenance being done. I don't think that auto manufacturers should have to pay for warranty service on cars owned by people who don't maintain them (usually just oil changes), because that drives up the cost of providing warranty service for everyone who does do proper maintenance, and those costs eventually get passed on to consumers.
@@Mark-rw3kwKia screws people over on warranties all the time.
@@jasonwilliams6005 Not according to many who have posted here. Do you have a specific situation that you explain why you think that?
I retired this year from the service department of a Kia dealership. Kia is awesome when it comes to warranty coverage. I agree that the person on the phone sounded abrasive. I’m glad it worked out well for you. Peace.✌️
Cold calling a dealership is a stressful situation for both parties. When you come in, you're signaling some commitment to getting things done, not just stroking around.
Question... we had our first oil change at Kia service center. We have a 2024 Kia Seltos. The manual and oil cap said 0W-20. But in the dealership they put 5W-30. Is this for the weather in Texas?.
I have 2 KIAs bought brand now and a 3 year experience dealing with KIA dealerships, and you know what? I am happy with the product and with the service. A few times different dealerships from different groups went above and beyond to help me.
@@jamesplotkin4674 Huh? Why don they have telephones and advertise their numbers then?
@@alexsanabria9194 Using 0W-20 is best for fuel mileage and for EPA certification of the car, but using 5W-30 is best for engine longevity, especially for a 4-cylinder turbo in warmer climates. When you start paying for your own oil changes, I would make sure and use a full synthetic (any cheap brand is OK). While the dealer is providing free oil changes, I would ask them if they are using synthetic, and if not, how much would it cost to upgrade to synthetic.
I bought a used 2011 Sonata from a Hyundai dealer with 144,000 miles for my daughter. About 3 months later rod bearings went. Even though it was way out out of warranty and sold as-is, they replaced the entire engine, and gave us a rental free. Took about 2.5 months as they had to wait for crate engine to get shipped over. I paid $0. Was extremely happy with how they took care of us.
How is that possible? It wasn't under warranty. There's no way a dealership just hooked u up. Lol. Come up with a better story.
@@SC68170believe what you will. Hyundai extended the engine warranty to 120k because of the Theta engine recall settlement. But ours was at past that warranty. I was sick to my stomach when I first figured out the engine was shot. Sounded like a garbage disposal. My daughter still teases me a little about my mental breakdown. The dealership submitted it to Hyundai anyway to see if they would approve it and they did.
I had pretty much expected them to tell me to go pound sand and told my daughter we were likely going to need to start looking at getting a different car. I was extremely surprised and elated they approved it. We got extremely lucky, I do think the fact that we had purchased it from a Hyundai Dealership helped.
The dealership was Luther Hyundai Burnsville MN.
You were insanely lucky.
@@SC68170 PLEASE !!,......find a computer or IPHONE and do research before you speak. YOU sound like a a wind bag calling him a liar when he is telling the truth.
@@SC68170lots fake agendas on internet.
KIA is NOT having serious issues. The KIA YOU bought is having serious issues. Lemons don't discriminate.
The one dealer principal I used to work for used to say..."your first loss is sometimes your best loss" that 21k customer finance headache looks awful good now. Different situation here you should still make out though. Great channel you got here, I commend you on your honesty and transparency. Good lessons you are teaching here. Kudos to you sir.
I have a co-worker whose engine failed and Kia gave them a new engine for free. Excellent service.
I love the fact that you show the absolute real world of car sales from an owners point of view. I have a small dealer like yours here in NJ. Watching you is like watching my daily routine knowing that we all have to deal with the ups and downs of this business. I was fortunate enough to get a 1.5L Ecoboost engine replacement for a 2017 Escape that was in my inventory from a 1 time customer satisfactory program we weren't even aware of until we ran the Carfax and looking into what that was. We didn't have to have it registered. Just being the dealer who owned it was good for them to do the work.
its too bad all or most model cars these days are garbage with a 4cyl t
I did this same thing a few years ago.
The key is to call the corporate (Kia/Hyundai) customer care number. They'll register you as the new owner and schedule you in for service. Completely takes it out of the dealer's hands with the crap about being registered and whatnot.
In my case, I found out that they would cover it before I played hard ball in-lane.
Made about 7k on that deal.
Had a 2018 Kia Soul 2.0 with 85,000 hwy miles (had it since new) and it started using oil. Had the dealership replace the engine under warranty and I got rid of it. Not dealing with lack luster quality.
Lackluster quality, you mean like every vehicle made in North America? Or Audis? mercedes? Bentleys? Pay 450,000 for a bentley, after the warranty is over it's worth $120,000, in 5 yrs it's worth $40,000.
@@muskokamike127😂😂 someone’s been burnt by some cars
@@johnnygraves7028 New cars are just the new car smell and illusion all the issues that aren't power train will show up in the 3/36K.
@@johnnygraves7028
I guess you don’t know about European cars or the bad quality of cars in general. A friends shop had an 07 Bentley that had failed vacuum hoses above the transmission. He had to remove the entire engine and transmission assembly to replace the $3,000 lines which was a 40 hour job! Nearly $8k total! I’m a Benz tech but I don’t own a single European car. Unfortunately my wife bought a new 16 KIA (before I met her) but the powertrain warranty was recently extended to 15y 150k by Kia.
have had 2017 wrangler since 0 miles with no problem and its at 80k miles, buy nicer cars@@t436
I bought my wife a Sportage TGDI brand new back in 2012. It was all wheel drive turbo powered with all the bells and whistles.
That thing was the biggest piece of crap we’ve ever owned….the main turbo and the emissions turbo both had to be changed 4 separate times…the car had to be completely repainted and the roof seals failed so the entire headliner had to be replaced. Now you might think that because all this was covered what’s the big deal…the amount of time we had to sac to get the damned thing to the service department and god forbid they didn’t have a loaner. It was a horrible mistake and experience.
2010 - 2019 Had a certain engine that was pure crap; 2020 and beyond, newer engine and no issues...
Hey Dude, this video was done beautifully, and you showed it all in one post, it’s great that you won’t leave the viewers on a limbo and wait for the next post, now I am looking forward for the next video. Great job
Craig's transparency and non-cliff hanger approach is why I subscribed in the first place. Strong vid Craig.
It is refreshing. And to think it's from a car dealer! j/k
I've recently unsubbed from a couple of channels I like because the drag everything out too much.
Remember that the faulty injector just pumped gallons of gasoline into the combustion chamber which then went into the sump - this explained the high oil level so your engines internals were exposed to very low lubrication due to the oil/gasoline mix
Ah ha. The story may continue with the next driver. I also wonder about the Cat. converter exposure.
Ya but just think of how clean the internals will be
That means a lot of extra engine wear...nasty!
Good catch. I had forgotten about the high oil level.
On the positive side it's diesel in the oil and not petrol.
What also helped is that the vehical is so clean and appears to be well maintained. I personally like the color.
The colour is great. Less time lost washing it.
I almost bought one of these. The salesperson at the dealership said it was such a low price because no one wanted a car in that color. I ended up passing on it because it didn’t have the interior features I wanted, and I’m so glad I did. Went with a 2020 Mazda3 instead and couldn’t be happier.
As much as I hate dealers, this exemplifies why I always take our cars back to the dealer for oil changes while under warranty. That way there's no excuses and no ambiguity if there's a problem.
That's still a bad move and I'll tell you why the dealers usually have high mile increments which leads to engines being destroyed whatever the manufacturer says you should cut it in half and do an oil change in between the factory ones
I would agree to a point, but in Canada, KIA's scheduled maintenance interval for this vehicle is Full-Synthetic Oil & Filter change every 5000km/3100 miles, because Hyundai/KIA rates Canada a severe climate, even in British Columbia, where many regions rarely get below 0C/32F in winter. That's retarded and surely not suggesting the ridiculous 3100 mile interval should be cut in half?
@@petercan1020 You can still do your own oil changes in between dealer oil changes based on mileage.
@@petercan1020 If you take your vehicle in at or before the mileage increments of the vehicles owners manual, the dealer HAS to honor the warranty.
That oil change story is getting old. That's just one of the beginning tactics to void warranty.
Usually from experience I'm 54 yrs old anytime a truck or car that is blowing white smoke is the turbo . That's id that vehicle is a turbo.. if the turbo has launched it will blow white smoke. New follower here live the channel..I'm still raving about your experience at mecums that's one place I'd never buy a car from they are wayy to shady..
It's too bad the car hasn't sold faster because of the color. It makes sense though if you drive and just observe the lack of color in cars these days. People seem to just buy black, white, or some shade of gray color. I like a blue car myself, but bravo to Kia for including a non-grayscale option.
I know, there’s a Lexus dealership I drive by sometimes and I swear it’s like driving past a 1950s black and white movie because every freaking car is black, white or grey, except on the odd occasion there is a trade in sitting out front like a blue Subaru or something, but like 75% of the time there is zero colour
People buy black, white and sometimes grey cars because many dealers are charging extra for other colours. Maybe they decide to put that $300-800 extra into some sort of option that would be useful to them.
@@nodsibim in the car world. Every time we get a colorful car it sits and sits and no one buys it
I loved the color and would buy it but have two friends who had to replace motors at there cost.l'm just leary of both those brands.we have a2016 Rav 4 with a hundred and four thousand miles and no trouble so far. We've had 5 Toyota 's trucks and cars and they have never let me down.
Because the manufacturers dictate which colors we may like. Uniformity, soon we'll be back in the day where Henry Ford said "You can have your car in any color ... As long as it's black"
I like how people try to justify inferior quality of these vehicles by stating "But it has a warranty!". A warranty is better when it's not used all the time and you have no use of your vehicle every time it's in the shop.
That was a HUGE difference from potentially being able to sell the car retail for $30k to selling it wholesale for only $19k. To only end up making about $2k without knowing whether the engine would be under warranty was WAY too big of a gamble. Craig could have ended up losing 5 to 10k on this car. CRAZY gamble but I LOVE this video and his content!! I also COMPLETELY understand his addiction to Audi!
Craig is a business owner/operator, in a word;👍🏽 gambler. People are pretty strange when it comes to color preference. Shoot, I turned down a 🔥 red VW for a bland silver tiny Chevy rental, unlike what's in my driveway stealthy blues.
yeah but look how many views on this video. thats also bringing in a lot of money haha.
I’m not interested in a used Audi, nor other used European luxury cars. Money pits.
I guess you didn't watch until the end huh? lol he didn't sell it, he'll be lucky to get $18
@pawpawbandit3871 I stand corrected. Yeah, he still hasn't sold it yet so he may end up taking a loss after all.
I like the color. Easy to find in a parking lot. Thinking of getting something similar, but KIA scares me. I like cars that don't break down...
I wouldn't blame folks who dare not touch a Kia or Hyundai.
Scotty doesn't lie, that's for sure!
FYI.. ALL MANUFACTURERS will VOID warranties if you do not have receipts... for 'PRESCRIBED' maintenance as described in their owners manual.... Federal Courts have rules AGAINST manufacturers saying that oil changes etc can be done by service outside the Manufactures dealership network. So you can go to Jiffy Lube, or change your own oil.. but you MUST SAVE YOUR RECEIPTS.... You got very lucky. This time. As a used car dealer any car you take in, that is still within the warranty period... You better prey all maintenance was done on time and at a authorized dealer, or there is a glovebox full of jiffy lube receipts... Toyota is the WORST for voiding warranties without proper receipts.
It's a shame people don't like that color. It's my favorite of all the ones they offer in this model. I almost bought one over my Geyser Blue '24 Outback Wilderness. In fact, I wish the Outback came in that color.
Thanks for sharing all of the good, the bad, and the ugly in your video. It's interesting to see things from others' perspectives (e.g., the view of a dealer vs. the view of a buyer).
My favorite color, as well.
The Title should say Kia Customer Service is Surprisingly Amazing!
KIA WARRANTY only applies to original owner, if its resold then the warranty turns to 5 years 60k miles for power terrain and basic warranty . Also car must be registered to someone for any warranty work they can't warranty used car dealer cars. Warranty extension is if connecting rod bearings failed and motor seized, then they will replace. i work in a kia service center reach out if you have any questions.
That’s exactly why that Hyundai / Kia warranty is a *SCAM!!!* If they are so confident about their “warranty” 🙄, it should apply no matter who owns it, as long as there is a record of all maintenance done to the vehicle!
@@747-pilot It's not a scam for people who buy the cars new and keep them that long. The Hyundai/Kia warranty for more than one owner is the same or higher than almost all other manufacturers. Kia started the 10 year - 100K warranty (for original owner) in 2000 due to consumer perception that their cars were not reliable, a reputation that goes back to the 1990's, but reliability has improved significantly since then.
Agree. I got scammed as I am second owner. Who knew? @@747-pilot
Yes I am reaching out. Warranty extension on what years and models? Why do the rod bearings fail? I hear gas blowby into oil, reduces oil protection properties as oil gets too thin, and/or metal shavings in oil passage ways from manufacturing process. Why would a knock sensor software help that? Is so confusing. Thank you
Hyundai extended the engine warranty because of the screw up on the engine block machining process that left metal in the block that was not cleaned properly. At least that’s what Hyundai told me when they replaced the engine in my wife’s Santa Fe.
My sister bought a kia that was only a couple years old and over the course of 3 years it cost her more to fix than it cost to buy it due to engine and over heating issues. She sold it to a junk yard for a few hundred dollars and got a corolla, hasnt had an issue since.
Great vid. I appreciate all the transparency, and the effort it takes to record all that, keep track of it for months, and make entertaining content.
Should, could, if, but, well maybe I'd better buy bonds and invest in something that provides a guarantee without looking for a sucker to sell it to.
I like that funky color but I can believe for the price your asking I'd rather buy a Honda or Toyota and know it's going to be reliable.
Bro, I thank you so much for these videos and for the brutal honesty that you always bring.
Because of it, I decided to follow you 👍👍👍
❤ love the colour, pity we dont get that on in the UK.
Craig, the way you put everything out there, Good, the bad and the ugly. Awesome. Always love the content.
They tried that battery hustle on me when I took my 2022 Kia carnival in to get the fuel pump replaced, that battery is absolutely fine, they press everybody who goes in there EVERY PERSON! Do not replace it!
It's so nice to see someone treating you right. It's just so hard for people to do the right thing these days.
Kia/Hyundai are basically the same company and numerous years and engines had major oil use/bearing engine failures. They are replacing lots of engines for free.
It's a cute car, and that color is awesome. I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of owning something that isn't a depressing greyscale lump. If I needed a runabout like this, I'd be all over that color as it's bright, easy to see in the crowded depressing greyscale parking lot and happy.
RIGHT! It took me months to find a lime rush 4trunner, I never lose it in a parking lot
I would think the color would be an asset in snowy condition.
I'm surprised it's not selling because of the Starbright yellow color. I have a 2022 in that color and it's a real head turner and conversation starter. I had no choice in color unless I wanted to wait months due to Seltos being on back order. Wanted out of my 2019 Sportage because of the fire hazard recalls. I'm glad I got stuck with the Starbright yellow. I really like my Seltos S. That color is no longer a Kia option. Chevy has the Trail Blazer and Trax in that color and they call it Nitro yellow.
Whohhhh .... They must have known who you were... or your YT channel. This level of service and warranty respect with KIS/HYUNDAI is not the norm.... Did they ever indicate they knew you were a Social Media Auto guy? Love your Ups and Downs honesty. Selling cars is tough.
I noticed the Audi 4.2, for those not aware, those leak rear main seals like sieves! Glad Audi isn't making those anymore.
Had a regular customer at work "I blew a head gasket, look at the white smoke!" Tells me it is a turbo engine. Instantly I told him it was the turbo, find a rebuilt. A week later he was in, replaced the turbo, and no smoke!
I made a gamble like this with my 2015 Kia optima and was able to have my engine replaced…I wasn’t provided a rental but did hear horror stories that folks whose engines weren’t replaced and they still owed on the car 😢
Great job putting this video together. I know it’s can’t be easy staying on point for five months, but you did an exceptional job. My wife is Korean and wants a KIA so bad, but I have a 2017 Ford Explorer, with 10K miles and no payment and still looks and drives like new. 👍 Edit: I have all maintenance records 😂
10k miles?
Dont touch Hyundai/Kia, they are cheap in price for a reason, they have to cut somewhere...
You'll need front struts in about 15k miles
@@carllovullo6602 I drove a 99 elantra 225k miles. easiest maintenance, simplest car I've ever had. It's the new engine designs that are struggling. I think that's like 2018 to 2022?
@@carllovullo6602This can be said with a lot of car brands, and isn’t limited to Kia/Hyundai. Kia/Hyundai do have some affordable options, the reality is that their consumer base has changed dramatically in recent years. Nearly half of all buyers make $100,000+ a year, and Kia alone has some of the highest dealer markups. These vehicles are good, people want them, and people will pay big money.
I didn’t have time to see if anyone else caught your comment about “ Smokers”? I think you were referring to what is/was ranked as one of the worst and most expensive movies ever made, “Waterworld” from 1995. By the way, that is one clean Kia. Thanks for making the great videos and if you ever need anyone to check on a car in the Chicago area I’d be more than happy to help you out. Take Care!
My daughter's boyfriend is a tech at a Kia dealership and his only job is to replace these faulty engines. They keep crate engines for all models on the shelf and one particular day he replaced 3 engines with two being the norm. He said Kia has been great the way they are handling this issue. Most non Kia dealerships would have your vehicle for more than a week and here they turn them around next day which is pretty amazing.
Thats good on them for handling the issue well, but maybe Kia should build better quality to begin with 🤣
how does kia make money with so many engine replacements? how much does it cost kia to replace an engine?
@@subaruamazon because it's a few specific engines, not all kia and models. I drove a 99 elantra 225k then sold it to someone else to use as a commuter.
It’s all Kia Hyundai engines from 2011 to current. Google Kia Hyundai engine failure/ oil consumption
For sure they don't do that at Toyota dealer lol
Have a '19 Tucson GDI 6sp, 110k miles so out of warranty. Gearbox noise and local Hyundai dealer wouldn't give an opinion, phoned selling Hyundai dealer and they said "bring it in" .... "your gearbox is shot, probably total 5k to do including fitting a new clutch..." 2 weeks later STILL NO G/BOX available from Hyundai so asked dealer if I supplied a s/h 60k mile g/box would they fit it because Hyundai couldn't give a date and I need my car for work..they agreed so have it back now and total bill was 2k so HOPE g/box lasts better that original...😎
The CarFax will usually show where the vehicle was serviced, so if you don't have receipts you can probably go there and get them. It was probably serviced at a dealer since it was still under warranty. Too bad about the title problem. Thanks for the video!
Quite sure Craig and the vast majority of us viewers are well aware to call the number on the Car Fax history report if we don’t have the receipts or invoices. Might be 1 or 2 individuals that don’t know so thanks for giving them the knowledge and Happy Holidays.
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I don’t think CarFax will send the receipts. Sounds like wishful thinking.
The shop may not even keep the receipt on file. On the chance they do, I doubt they will release to the second or subsequent owners since they have personal info attached to the invoice.
If you have a full Kia service history you get 100k mile warranty and there's never any claim issues, they just get on with the repair-brilliant!
I thought he said the carfax maintenance sheet wasn't enough, that they wanted the receipts. And then it was contradictory that he said that because they covered all the repairs (after all). So then the Carfax maintenance record was all that was needed.
On the surface, Hyundai and Kia offer great warranties. From personal experiences, they could warranty their cars for life as long as they make you jump through so many hoops that one will get discouraged. I had one that had airbag light. The dealer said it had coffee spilled on it which is located under the center console. Sounded legit. However, I proved that they never took the console apart. They just went with a common cause and tried to charge me $500.00. Another dealer fixed it for free. You took a gamble and won. I wouldn't bet on that again.
Sounds like Kia look after their customers ... nice to know
We had an old Kia Sedona that we bought used and it lasted forever. Still running when we sold it. Bought a newer one used and have had nothing but trouble with it.
Some of those older models were decent for reliability, but the newer ones are just absolute junk. They have nice interiors & features to distract people from the junk engines they put in them
We have our 2011 Sedona still almost at 200k. Zero engine issues and it along with transmission are still strong. Its been a great vehicle but definitely won't be buying a new KIA
Yeah, I’ve had an 06 Santa Fe with the 2.7l for over ten years, and while it’s been a bit more needy than the Toyotas I’ve had for little things, but the engine and transmission have been flawless, too bad the newer ones aren’t as solid
@@nodsibdo you smash your knee sometimes on the drivers door panel that’s sticks out when exiting the vehicle?
When I worked at a shop and that generation Sante Fe came in I’d always forget and drill my knee cap sending me to the floor like Peter Griffiths in pain.
@@jrs4ex yes 😂 every day is pain
Strange enough I don’t have these issues with my Kia. It’s a good car.
Had a new danali, lost oil pressure out of nowhere.. still had 500 miles of warranty left. Completed all services thru the dealer w/mobil 1 only.. they had to replace engine and were not happy about that. I ended up w/a junk yard engine! Truck was never right after that! Fun experience, warranty fought me the entire time. Took many months!
wow, the irony! Was that the extended warranty? If so, what company?
cars are not what they use to be, doesn't matter what brand cuz i working on all brands. i was amazed at kia service tho.
Turbo+GDI. Excessive pressure on the head gasket and carbon buildup on the valves from the EGR system. What could possibly go wrong?
I NORMALLY WATCH YOU ON A FIRE TV THROUGH UA-cam. A FEW DAYS AGO, I TRIED TO FIND YOUR CHANNEL ON MY PC SEARCHING FOR FLYING WHEELS...I SEARCHED AROUND FOR ABOUT 15 MINUTES OR MORE, TRYING DIFFERENT SEARCHES, BUT JUST KEPT GETTING VIDS ON FLYING CARS. TODAY I SEARCHED FOR "I GAMBLED AND LOST" AND FINALLY FOUND YOUR CHANNEL RIGHT AWAY.
Craig is a champion. Does all the hard work and either makes mistakes or he wins. We all benefit from his detailed exposes.
Work? The hardest thing he did was to strap the Kia down on his trailer.
It shows that self-employment is really the way to go. Be your own boss!!!
HELL YEAH!
Not sure why people are hung up on the color bcz where I am mostly everyone just gets their cars wrapped in color ppf. I think the price and reliability is more the issue!
Auto manufacturers will find 500 reasons to weasel out of their warranty obligations. The only way they have to fix it, is when it's on recall. Then they can't slime out of their obligation.
You don't get a new engine when your KIA engine blows, you get a remanufactured engine. Or,, at least I did when she blew at 108k miles.
I just bought a new Seltos and have put about 1,600 miles on it. A 2024. Nice to know the company stands behind its products. I love this car. It is a 2wd, 4 cyl non turbo. I am getting 33 mpg around town. Plenty of power and I love the electronics that it came with.
Keep records of oil changes, using only Kia/Hyundai filters.
You better sell it or trade it in, mine just eat the rod bearings alittle over 100k miles
@@joshjones6805non turbo Seltos?
@@benzlover55 it doesn't matter the model of the kia they all use the same engine no turbo is the 2.4 the a junk motors, it doesn't matter how good you take care of it it's going the eat the rings and rod bearings
You were smart to purchase the 2wd non turbo. A lot less to go wrong with it.
I had a 19 Hyundai Elantra with 47,000 miles (rod knock and issues starting), and they tried every way to not cover anything…so I traded it on a VW Passat, could not be happier. Passat rides, drives and have had, so far, zero issues. Warranty to 85,000 miles (currently 51700 miles).
Thanks for reminding me to keep buying Toyota / Honda. No major issues over 25 years of buying gently used and keeping long term 😉👍
good thing you avoided 2007-2010 2AZ-FE engine
Hondas and Toyotas are having so many problems today. I'd avoid them, also because they're massive penalty boxes
@@DeadofWinter321 😂 Haha, you're a comedian, right? Just received Consumer Reports Jan 2024 issue on how all the brands stack up: Lexus/Toyota #1 and #2. Acura/Honda #4 and #5.
All the garbage chevy, dodge, vw, mercedes, chrysler, ford, lincoln, gmc, jeep, audi at the bottom = reliability issues. The usual suspects are always the same. And why i have Lexus and a Honda in my garage right now. Never anything other than standard maintenance.
@@DeadofWinter321you're very wrong
@@ivanvarykino8202 - I laugh at people who believe that false indoctrination. '90s Hondas and Toyotas were the last good ones. Proven fact. Other brands today have caught up, and also gives you more features and tech for the money. I owned a Honda and three Toyotas. The Honda had a lot of weird electrical gremlins (purchased brand new) and the Toyotas spent almost as much time in the shop as they did on the road and getting Toyota to honor warranty repairs was like pulling skin off your teeth. Every other brand I owned, little to no issues/problems.
That's why when I buy new cars, I don't get the strange colors, no problems with resale. I had black, gray, navy blue and white cars. I get it, this is a very nice car but the color is putting people off
Bad injector was my first thought when I saw the smoke. Unburned fuel can produce white smoke similar to when coolant leak into a cylinder, not necessarily black like with an overly rich mixture, because there is not enough combustion in that cylinder. I tried to tell you to "smell the smoke" through the video... but of course you didn't hear me .. 😂
This comment is too far down. Unburned fuel smells completely different from coolant steam.
"People like to negotiate." ? No they don't. That's why the whole dealership model is failing against online car buying. We HATE negotiating. As a general rule.
The color is fine. I'd buy it if I have the money.
I love you man! You are one of the most straight car dealers out there, bar none!
It's not just Kia that has issues getting parts under warranty, I had a Volvo automatic transmission fail at 13,000 miles, and it took a couple of months to get it replaced.
Love my 2014.5 Toyota Camry. 122k miles and still going strong.
Love your channel. Great info and quality content.
My 2000 4Runner is coming up on 300k miles soon 286k right now and not a single light is on the dash she runs perfect man ! Change your oil every 3-4k miles using 5w30 and factory oil filter !!!
My 2015 TOYOTA COROLLA is at approx. 160K miles. No issues WHATSOEVER (OK, the front speakers have a loose connection, yeah, that’s the extent of my “troubles” 😂 ). Other than that, just oil changes and routine maintenance.
I keep my fingers crossed that I get another 5 years and 100K miles out of it, and at the rate she’s going, it seems more than likely that’s exactly what will happen!
@@SammyKurts-ku2htYeah, those 4 Runners from back then were the EPITOME of RELIABILITY AND DURABILITY!!! I had a 2001 SR5 that I had bought brand new back then. Should have NEVER sold it! 🙄
Have you changed spark plugs or timing chain yet?
That yellow colour is the standard colour in Australia , any other colour is a $500 option
It’s good to hear about a positive dealership experience.
You got really lucky with your dealership. That dealership has a really nice looking building too.
The color is beautiful and more unique . I really like your way to be so transparent. I used work for a car salesman and I spent se real hours at auto auctions in IN and WI we sold them in Chicago. Keep the good work .
That’s absurd when KIA tried to weasel their way out of their warranty obligations. They can pull the service record from their system with the vin, why put that onus on the customer? Glad to see they followed through and did the right thing but it seems like a catch 22 game, I’d never buy a KIA for this uncertainty alone.
The battery was 2x what you could have gotten ti for. But you did the right thing - throw them a bone. They took good care of you. Wonder why the previous owner didn't try to get it repairded under warranty. Or the previous dealer who wholesaled it for the matter.
Another excellent video!
I was worried you were going to leave us hanging with another vid to find out what happened to the Kia. With the year & mileage you should easily get someone financed and sell for a decent coin, but then again it is the holidays 🤦🏼♂️
I love the car color! Don’t worry.
A bill from Flying Wheels for the tow would have covered that battery!
I would’ve bought that. Don’t mind the colour at all!
Factory warranties are getting to be a huge hassle these days. The manufacturers try anything to avoid warranty claims...it's turned into a joke!!!
Yes. Better just buy a reliable car in first place.
White or light grey smoke is usually from motor oil or coolant from a failed head gasket. Black smoke is usually from a fuel injector running too rich. Your smoke was an unusual color for a fuel-too-rich condition. Glad it worked out okay got you.
White smoke is usually water getting turned into steam. Back in the "old days" cars that blew out WHITE smoke usually had a bad head gasket or intake manifold gasket but on VERY rare occasions it may have been a cracked head or block. I hope it isn't one of the last 2 scenarios.
I was thinking the same thing. With the oil level high and that “chocolate milkshake” color it is a telltale sign. They say fuel injector but it was interesting that they also needed to add coolant. Either way as others have said there is possibly excessive engine wear that may impact longevity.
could be a turbo - they do not last as long as people keep saying and I believe smoke and awfulness is the sign.
Had my 2017 Sonata engine replaced this summer and Kia/Hyundai warranty work is really hit or miss. The service advisers are numb to customers after years of the theta ii engines and that 2-4 months is the standard if you’re in a populated area. They deserve credit for sticking by their products, but this was my first Hyundai and will certainly be my last.
My wife's 2009 Santa Fe has a recall where a leaky oil gasket drips on the alternator causing the alternator to fail. The parts are on back order but this is about $1500 worth of work on a 14 year old car. Pretty pleased that Hyundai/Kia seems to stand behind their work, even a decade and a half later!
@@andyspinball
Recalls are safety related and are therefore required by law to be covered. They didn’t volunteer to cover this.
My 2012 got a new engine at 108k because it blew a rod. They could of just told me too bad, but they took care of it. Like you, it's my last one though. I'm going with Toyota next time, I've had good luck with them . I even have a Miata on nitrous, that has over 200k with no problems, and I daily it.
About to litigate against Hyundai when the Regional CEO presented me with a written document proving dealerships had the right to refuse certain warranty work. Best check their civil case history prior to purchasing.
Same. Is My first Kia and will be my last.
I wish we got the Seltos in the Netherlands.. but alas :(
This color is also pretty fresh imho.. better than the drab black and grey cars all over..
It DOES NOT need to be registered! Warranty goes with the vehicle!
I am a dealer and took many cars to the dealership for warranty problems and were unregistered, the warranty goes with the car
Definitely was a ploy to steer him away and void the warranty IMO
Isn't the warranty usually tied to the original owner and non transferable? At least that's how alot of companies get out of them
I'm surprised the color was holding back a sale. The starbright yellow sells fast in our area.
That Kia dealership facility looked like it could have been Kia's corporate headquarters 😆😆😆
A few family members and myself have owned or still own Hyundais but none of us have owned Kias. Overall the Hyundai ownership experience for most family members has been great, and they have been some of the most reliable vehicles we have ever driven, including 2 family members who bought 2006 Sonatas. Not sure what it was but that particular model year, those '06 Sonatas were great, one making it through 13 Chicago winters and was finally was traded-in during 2019, and the other Sonata lasted 16 years and was traded in during 2022 for another Hyundai.
The exception to this was my sister-in-law who purchased a 2016 Sonata Hybrid, that car was a disaster. Over the last couple years, that Sonata broke down a few times while commuting on busy roads, and then was towed back to the dealership. This particular Hyundai dealership in the Chicago area was notoriously crappy when it came to customer service and meeting repair deadlines, which they constantly had to revise and push out, causing much more inconvenience to schedules.
Earlier in 2023, at around 122,000 miles there was some discussion this 2016 Sonata Hybrid might need a new engine, and that Hyundai Motor America was going to determine if they were going to assist with some of the cost of the engine replacement. My sister in law had enough of Hyundai's BS and dumped the Sonata Hybrid for a Subaru earlier in 2023.
Another contributing reason why my sister in law would not consider buying another Hyundai was that the pathetic customer service at this Hyundai dealership, and constant delays getting her car repaired. The dealership was also extremely unreliable in addition to the Sonata Hybrid.
I have definitely seen a lot more issues with Hyundai/Kia over the last couple years, where some of their vehicles don't have adequate security making it way too easy to car thieves to steal their vehicles. That and some vehicles having the risk factor of catching fire, and where it's been advised that Hyundai/Kia owners don't park their vehicles in the garage.
While I currently still own a 2020 Elantra and so far this car has no issues and has good reliability, you can't help but see all these issues with Hyundai/Kia and be concerned. Thankfully my Elantra has a push button start versus the regular turn-key ignition so it's not at risk for theft. But still I am thinking my next car will be a Honda, Toyota, or Subaru, or I might even go back to Mazda.
love your videos. I think you do a great job explaining, especially to people that are new or wanting to get into the business. I wish you would use four straps when trailering a vehicle.
In Sweden it is quite a popular color, the VW Golf (Rabbit) is available in a similar color. But sure, it stands out a bit.
And hopefully the catalytic converter isn't about shot with the bad injector and turbo spewing oil. May have problems with it down the road shortly
This is why I'm not interested in Kia/Hyundai products. They always seem to have issues like this. Sometimes, a long warranty isn't a show of confidence, but at least it saves your bacon sometimes.
I feel like dealers who stocked up during the pandemic, will have to realize that they have to cut losses and likely sell most of their inventory at a loss. Its just the way greed works, it always gets turned back on you.
Thanks for your video. This was the first of your videos I saw, but it's not the last. I like that you give out the bad with the good :D
"44,000 miles and this Kia needs a new engine".
...sounds about right. No idea who buys these things still.
you want a cheap well appointed vehicle with a great warranty, why not? Other makers sell the same garbage without a long warranty.
BTW: didn't need a new engine, needed a turbo.
Me: You don't know why people buy a kia? I don't know why ppl buy fords, specially with the eco boost. Those things have all sorts of issues and once the warranty is up at 3 yrs, you're fubar. (they have major issues with carboning of the valves due to the pvc system).
They're throw away cars. Will almost make it through it loan period.
It didnt need a new engine, it needed a new turbo. It needed a new turbo because some one over filled the crank case by at least two quarts. It also needed a new fuel injector, which can happen to any brand of car, as there are only a handful of OEM injector manufacturers. And Kia paid to fix it all. Good luck getting ford, gm, or fiat chrysler to pay for something caused by lack of or improper maintence. We buy repair and sell an average of 50 vehicles a month, and have great luck with Hyundai's and Kia's. Better than a lot of other brands we also sell.
@@regularguy1140 like most cars made in the last 10 yrs?
Did you even watch the vid dude?
My experience with Hyundai has been a nightmare, I’m burning oil for 2 years , I have all my oil changes submitted, I even paid a 4200$ extended warranty that flaps in the wind , my warranty covers nothing , failing engine , destroyed exhaust system , no climate control , power windows stopped working, transmission issues and my 4200 warranty is routinely sidestepped, it has never kicked in for anything wrong on that car top to bottom , I hate my Hyundai
No loaner ever , last time Hyundai kept my car for 5 days waiting for a small part for my transmission, they routinely quote me outrageous prices , 4200$ extended warranty that is still valid never I mean never comes up , I bring it up they start talking about the weather
I have had the same Kia for 14 years lol, engine still runs great.
Same here. 2011 and running strong at almost 200k. I've heard some of these era Kia's making it to 300k, if maintained properly of course.
long as it doesn't have turbo they run forever if keep timing belt changed.
Gramps smoked every day and lived to 99…!? lol
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The dealer I’m thinking of told me that the efficiency of Kia depends on where it is made. I showed him some recalls and he said that wasn’t where there get their vehicles.
Jeff from Amphora. Hi Craig I was happy to meet you. Awesome channel. Take care thanks for listening to my details about airguns.
I wonder if Kia would have covered everything if they knew you were a car dealer and just bought it at auction?
Clever registering it in your wife's name and not your company name. At least you told us. Appreciate your transparency to your subscribers, if not to Kia.
Regardless of any of that it’s still their issue to fix.
doesn't really matter if it's in his name or his wife's, it's still jointly their car.
Suppose the Kia had been brought in for this legitimate warranty repair as a “dealer car”, and suppose coverage was refused for that reason. However, if the dealer then simply gave up and sold the Kia “as is” the new owner would be entitled to warranty coverage.
So as the earlier commenter said, ultimately Kia is responsible. They weren’t ripped off, but Craig spared the new owner considerable risk and hassle at no hardship to the dealer or the Kia manufacturer.
No they wouldn't have! That's exactly why they said it had to be registered!
@dmoney8766 yes it does matter! That's exactly why they told him it had to be registered and that he had to have receipts for the service!