One Tomball woman called KPRC 2 Investigator Amy Davis after she said a car dealership mechanic wrecked her vehicle and is refusing to take responsibility.
Yeah. Tells a lot about the @h0le owner. Rather lose a customer, in fact many, than accept responsibility for his employees that really shouldn't be driving cars for warranty work repairs that don't need driving
@@user-ln7of9gs4sdouble wrong. 1-the dealer is 100% responsible for the vehicle in their custody. The dealer needs to make the other party pay. If he can’t, that’s on him. 2-the driver at the moment of the accident is the one that needs to be insured. Not the car.
whats crazy is service departments from dealerships make the bulk of the income. they make their money back in a week or 2 if they just payed for it. i know for a fact the ford dealership i work at would of just fixed what they broke and called it a day, because my boss really likes the fact the community has a high opinion of his business and public opinion does matter
Let us assume, that the mechanic had to do a test drive (warranty work) and didnt just take a joyride. In that case, how can you lose reputation (with ppl who can use their head and think) if you have done nothing wrong. The customer did nothing wrong. But neither did the dealership. I would agree with you, IF we had to take the word of the dealership or the mechanic. BUT, here we have a police report that assigns all blame solely on the other driver.
This happened to me in 1995, took my car into a dealer in for minor repair, next day the trunk and rear lights were smashed in. The dealer wanted me to drive it off their property then come back the next day to discuss the damages.... and I refused. They said they had no idea how it happened, but after awhile they admitted an elderly volunteer attendant backed it into a dumpster. If mystery damage happens to your car at a dealer DO NOT drive it off their lot, it is a trap for them to say you did it.
HOW RUDE!!! They actually told you to drive it off and come back the next day... Wow... They must have thought you wouldn't notice the damages on your car. I am thinking that dealership was getting kickbacks from insurance companies... lol...
@@1USAUSA I was young at the time in college....Yeah they knew what had happened all along but first said I drove it in like that. Then tried to get me to drive it off their property. Then they admitted what happened. Then about a month later, repair wise they changed their mind and refused to pay the body shop for a new trunk (repainted used rear trunk) and tail lights as they said they were being ripped off by my body shop choice. So we threatened a court suit and they agreed to pay for the repairs this is about a 3 month ordeal. Do not drive your damaged car off the lot! Cannot emphasize that enough.
(actual answer and not flippant one) It shouldn't be happening to her, as a retired insurance adjuster, this is not how things are handled normally. I highly doubt this is Allstate causing the issue and more Tomball Ford not wanting to file the claim with their provider. Just let's me know not to use that dealership. Mechanic shouldn't have taken the vehicle onto a public road and they had possession of the vehicle so as I see it they need to do the right thing and file the claim for the 30%. For them to be dragging this out is very bad business practice and horrible customer service.
they said it was also in for warranty work so if suspension work was done and it got aligned, they would take it on the street and make sure it didn't shudder or shake at speed. cars get test driven all the time.
Absolutely WRONG, I work for a dealership, and after ANY and ALL work is done by a mechanic, dealership or private mechanic, they are LEGALLY required to test drive it to make sure everything is o.k.
I love that they force us to pay for car insurance (as we should) but then insurance companies will do everything in their power to not pay out for repairs!
@@Emilthehun yep! I just got my car totaled because a dog and a man ran out in front of me, and the guy behind us didn’t see us, and smashed into the back of my car. The other driver was found to be 100% responsible because I had dash cam footage. Who knows if it would have turned out that way if I didn’t.
@@KatieJCruz exactly! Glad you had one. I've had one for years , and what I've noticed is people act totally different after they notice the cameras. Even cops are different. So its a win win for everyone. Glad you guys got what you deserved
Well, what would’ve costed Tomball Ford a few thousand bucks, just costed them a boatload in lost sales . I will make sure to spread the word about this dealership
I checked their social media accounts and it seems no one is really commenting about the incident . In fact they still have a few customers buying from them.
@@joeyking8756 My friend. Why is it hard for you to understand this situation. The whole thing happened UNDER their WATCH. She left her perfectly working car with this dealership for maintenance and to pick it up just as she left it in the same condition. This has to do with TRUST. No matter how this is not dealership fault or NOT, Tomball has a HUGE responsibility to make this right for her. For pete's sake she bought her car from their dealership and ONE OF THEIR OWN EMPLOYEE was driving or behind the wheel when this accident happened. This news bit is bringing BAD PUBLICITY for Tomball, Joey. Just for that reason alone, I would do whatever little I can do to help her and be on the people's or customers' side. *Would you leave your happy and healthy kids with your neighbors to watch them while you had to go somewhere for while and then come back to find every bones in your kids' body broken? Then, for your neighbors to deny that they did anything Wrong and its not their FAULT.* lol... think about it.
Doesn't matter unfortunately because they will say your insurance covers uninsured drivers so she has to go through her insurance for whatever the at fault driver's insurance didn't cover.
“Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else.” Admiral Hyman G. Rickover
The dealership and Allstate could buy a ton of good publicity if they just did the right thing, but they prefer to look like jerks to save a few bucks.
Ummm. These people never watched Judge Judy. The dealership took possession of the vehicle and it was damaged under their possession. It was their responsibility to ensure that it was returned in proper condition.
@@tonyhaynes9080 exactly what they do.. I have no idea what the resolution to this case ever was but the dealers try to weazle out however they can. since their mechanic was driving the car and deemed at 30% fault, it is possible a lawsuit went somewhere, the problem with just claiming it on your own insurance is you have to pay the deductible and if you are upsdie down on the load you have to pay off the note in full instantly or roll a whole lot of negative equity into a new purchase.. i always wish there was followup to stories like this to see what happened in the end
@@tonyhaynes9080 if that’s how they wanna play it then I’ll go to the dealership and tell them I’m not responsible for any damages to their reputation🖕😊🖕
So after getting into an accident while test driving a customer’s vehicle, the dealership decided to not call the customer and inform them that their vehicle had been in an accident. And instead lets the customer come pick up the vehicle to realize it’s been wrecked.
I thought when they text drive it its in the area on the property if its big enough ...this dude was out on a joy ride doing things he shouldn't and dang its a brand new car they didn't need to text drive anything
@@KIMjB72 Kim, watch and listen carefully to the interview with the owner. The shady reporting doesn't emphasise that warranty work was required..so driving it to confirm fault or fix fault WAS required. And, oh, while it's there, can you do the oil and filter? less sensational, more truth.
The dealership has the liability since they were in possession and driving the vehicle at the time of the accident. I hope she contacted the AG about this.
no. I can go drive your car and have possession but it dont mean Im liable if someone hits me. Dealership not at fault at all there were thousands of similar cases, although liability is usually disputed Dealership might be found liable in a case like this if, for example, they broke the car on their own parking lot by driving it into a wall. Still though, such a case would still have debatable liability In this story the auto insurance is responsible. They even accepted responsibility, they just havent decided which of the two auto insurance companies is more at fault
@artyomarty391 The dealer is 100% responsible. As an employee of a dealership, you are insured and are supposed to be held liable in any event that a customer car is damaged. Thats what businesses have insurance for, unlike the womens personal insurance who will only cover damage if she is driving
@@dylanhall391 The dealership might be responsible if this accident happened on their lot, and due to their negligence. I m saying "might" because there have been many cases where even in these favorable circumstances, the dealership still wasnt responsible after a trial Here the dealership took the vehicle to the road. Not only that, but the customer's auto insurance companies actually accepted a responsibility to pay, but it just hasnt settled who was at fault. Its very likely any insurance that the dealership has does not cover accidents when the vehicle is in neutral possession, aka not on the lot Women's personal insurance does not care much who was driving. Your auto insurance is tied to your car, not to you. This is like auto insurance 101... If you dont know even this most basic concept you probably shouldnt comment any further
@@artyomarty391 No, that stinks. The dealer's insurance should cover the cost fully. If her insurance pays then her auto insurance will go up considerably and she will be penalized for several years when none of it is her fault. She shouldn't have to pay a dime, the mechanic that had the wreck was employed by the dealership and the buck stops there! I hope you never become a judge in any capacity, common sense and decency are required.
Together or alone, Tomball Ford and Allstate have the opportunity to do the right thing here. I will remember this story every time I see a Tomball Ford or Allstate commercial.
Something similar to this happened to me (in Delaware) and the dealership took responsibility and fixed my car, but only after I confronted the owner in a heated argument. Tomball Ford is going to get a lot of bad PR attention because of this. You would think they would pay up to avoid the bigger problem that results in the loss of potential customers.
@@southernsass2937 Allstate is trying to protect their customer to pay only what their customer caused in damages. The other people are not in good hands. That's not Allstate's job nor their saying The you're in good hands part is their customer not the other person. FYI I don't like Allstate they do way to many comparative negligence claims. That being said your comment isn't funny, just wrong.
@@jessebaldwin2661 They were waiting to see how it played out first. No media attention, no resolution. Now they pretty much forced to do what they are supposed to do in the first place lol.
Exactly and don't ever buy a Ford. The crap I have dealt with since February 2020 with ford service is unbelievable. I can't even make up the incompetence of Ford.
Best advice ever what you on about? If your company agrees it's not your fault all they need is other persons details and insurance and pay you out. Why bother going through all the crap which could take months to get anything.This lawyer is honest rtare this days as he could have made a nice lumb.
That’s not what he said tho. She has full coverage on her financed brand new car, filing through her insurance doesn’t count against her. Her insurance handles the dealership and other driver, while giving her a rental and fixing her car. It’s what you pay for to have insurance. Let them handle the headache.
Spread the word around, MJ... I like how all these so-called FRIENDLY dealerships pretend to be on the customers' side and as soon as they run into an issue with their customers they will quickly and swiftly WASH THEIR HANDS of their RESPONSIBILITIES. This is exactly shown on this video.
Yeah, just give her another car! It only costs that much more for everyone else buying a new car to make it right, and cover for a crooked insurance company. Not the mechanics fault, not the dealers fault. People are nuts, with ZERO brain cells. ZERO!
I did work in dealerships for many years. If we were at fault we bent over backwards to take care of the customer. In this case put the blame where it belongs. The driver at fault.
@michele mcguire can't sue them, police didn't rule them at fault, it was the guy in the BMW with Allstate at fault.. Guess people aren't really watching the video
@@unusualfire prob didn't which is why she went to the media. This is such an easy fix. Obviously you wld never want ur dealership to crash your car. But this is what insurance is for. If her mother was driving and got into an accident. She gonna sue her mom. No. She wld make a claim on her OWN insurance to make her whole again. And if another party was involved in the accident you allow you insurance to handle it on your behalf. This is just how it works. No need to drag the dealership down and put on the news
My mother has a case when her car was at the dealer awaiting service it was hit by another customer’s car being driven by a dealership employee. When she called to ask whether her car was ready they said it would be another week because they were waiting for “parts”. Turns out the car was at a body shop and the dealer was hoping to get it repaired and not tell her about it! Thankfully I went down there myself and when they couldn’t show me her car they admitted to what had happened. They did pay for the repair but they lost not just her business but mine as well!
@@water7305 first of all if it was warranty work they should be able to take care off all repairs at the dealership unless he was just test driving it to make sure everything is okay other than that her car shouldn’t have left the dealership
So you don’t expect someone to test drive your car after a repair is done? Especially if it was something dealing with a safety issue? Lol don’t be dumb!!!
But if you watch and listen to the video, the police ruled that they weren't at fault and that the other driver insured by Allstate is at fault. So they aren't responsible
@@gapplevr4915 I watched the video, and believe Allstate determined that 30% of the liability was on the mechanic driver because of some frivolous assumption that he was "distracted". So, I would think that the dealership would be responsible for at least that portion. I agree with others... don't buy or get services from that dealership!!
@@SpllenigBeeWniner The fact that Allstate *claims* the dealership's driver was 30% at fault doesn't make it so. What is their basis for that claim? The other driver unlawfully turned in front of this driver; they are 100% responsible.
@@gapplevr4915 They had their customers car, they are responsible to make it right to their customer. Then they need to fight with the other driver to get their money back for the other driver who was at fault.
The dealership needs to pay her, and then sue the other driver’s insurance to recoup their loss. Yes, they aren’t responsible for the crash, but they are responsible for the condition of their customer’s car while it’s in their possession.
Have to disagree. If, for ex., a salesperson at the dealership carelessly backed his demonstrator into your car, the courts would would rule that the salesperson was negligent, and so the dealer would be liable for the negligence of their employee. However: If, say, a customer backed his car into your car that was properly parked by the dealer, then the dealer would not be responsible for the damages, because the dealer was in no way negligent.
@@meadowsmydog I'm not saying the crash was their fault, but if it hadn't been in their possession, it never would've been damaged. It's not in the customer to figure out on her own. I don't care what their legal responsibility is, they have a moral responsibility to take care of their customer
I agree with you Gabriel. The dealership, if they were smart, would pay the lady and go after the insurance company. It’s pennies in the scheme of things but the dealer could be “the hero” and gain much more in positive free publicity. And they would surely recoup the money from the insurance company.
My husband and I were looking at a new truck. Tomball in Houston has some amazing prices. After seeing this, we both agree it is time to look elsewhere.
It’s HER insurance company, that she has been paying premiums to, that are required to do this for her. THEY will make sure all responsible parties pay what is required. The fact that she didn’t even notify them is the problem. Non of the parties WANT to pay, it’s the insurance company that will make sure they do. Oh, and they will replace her car while doing all this.
What do you mean *Even if it wasn't the dealership's responsibility?* Bruh!!! Of course, they have responsibility to make this right for this lady. She didn't expect to leave her perfectly good car with them and end up picking it up completely totalled. Just because this incident will bring bad publicity to my business, I would do whatever I can do make her happy. Just because of this news bit, this dealership probably lost many many car sales totalling hundreds of thousands of dollars a lot more than the cost of this lady's SUV. SMH!!!
My wife took in her NEW F-150 in 2014 to the dealership for it's first oil change and tire rotation. The mechanic didn't tighten the lug nuts on one of the front wheels, my wife got on the road and the wheel fell off. A lot of damage to the front end. The dealership said they'd fix the damage for free. I said, "No, your going to give her a 2015 F-150 exactly like the one she brought in and we'll owe exactly what we do now, with the exact amount of months left on the loan, and we'll all walk away from this episode knowing better". The dealership had a NEW F-150 for my wife 2 days later.
This is interesting. Good thing your wife got a replacement. Even if they fixed her truck, there would be depreciation from the accident being on the carfax. Was there a lot of push back from the dealership?
@@BenJS2 No push back whatsoever, I suspect they addressed their lawyer and he /she advised them they'de come out better in the end by doing what we/I suggested. Needless to say, we've never gone back to that dealership again and, unfortunately, it cost that mechanic his job. They did a 2-day emergency repair on her wrecked truck and tried to get us to take it, but I insisted on the new one.
@@LMcQuinn I sure wish I could help, but it appears this lady has already started the legal process, can't scare 'em now that everything is out in the open. People just gotta remember when you drop your car off at a dealership for any work, you gotta specify that your car is NOT to be driven off the lot.
This is just terrible. Dealership left this woman to just “deal with it” and the damage happened under their care. Not right and not fair. I hope she resolves this and gets a new car soon..
Unfortunately the dealership only cares about you when you are buying the car after you actually buy it they dont care about you anymore. When you have an issue they are always too busy to help you out and always leave you to deal with it on your own
Actually this a Texas State law that allows Auto Insurance companies to divide percentages of who's at fault. Now I know Florida's No Fault Insurance may not bad after all.
@@jonniehickson5599 I agree, insurance is a racket. I prefer to set high deductibles with lower premiums and then pay for small incidents out of my own pocket rather than claim only to have the insurers bump up my premiums. I apply that approach to my vehicles, homes, and health insurance, and basically only use insurance for catastrophic events.
When a dealer or repair shop is in possession of a car, and something happens to it, they should automatically be 100% responsible for EVERYTHING. This needs to change.
This happened to me. The mechanic was out speeding in my car, the police tried to stop him and he ran. He totaled my car and it turns out he had a warrant out for his arrest. My car was about a year old so the dealership put me in a new car and pro-rated my equity and I just continued my payments. The nice part was that my car was a base model and the new one was top of the line for the same price. My wife turned on the waterworks and they were falling over themselves to make her happy.
Those were my thoughts too, at first, but after considering it I think the only other crooks 🤥, that are bigger 💩 than these, are the bankers and politicians, 🤢🤮👿🤬 but it's a close call. 🤔🧐
Good little Fascist. She should call her insurance agent and let them deal with it, period. If the tech was legit driving the car and got tagged by a ticketed driver...what has the dealership got to do with anything?
@@u2mister17 exactly, people are blasting this dealer when they actually did more then they had to do. this is not uncommon and your insurance will sue the other for the remaining liability.
The car and incident is insured by someone it just needs to be figured out. Putting all those people out of work for the loss of a $50k or less vehicle seems pretty extreme.
i dont see why the dealership is really the bad one. Allstate admitted their driver was 70% at fault so why should the dealer be paying for all of it? If the dealer wasnt standing their ground Allstate would have gotten away with insurance fraud no problem
It's the fault of the two drivers, not the dealership. She needs to make a claim and let the insurance companies fight it out. There's no news here - move on.
@@jimroscovius But because the driver was their employee it does put liability on the dealership. The same way employers may worry about what we post on social media cause it reflects them. Only in this case it's more directly a part of their business. Especially considering its a person they instructed to do the work.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly Bingo. Liability for employee mistakes/misconduct is 50% of the reason why the dealership has insurance to begin with. If this lady was smart then she claimed on her insurance (who would have then taken the dealership and their insurance to court for her).
It's called capitalism. Likewise. Insurance companies will lobby the government and mandate everyone have insurance. But when time comes up to pay the small guys, they will find every reason and way to squeeze out of paying. I paid for accident coverage. I don't care how the hell it happened or what my state was of being at that time. I paid for insurance. You pay up. On paper, it is going to down with a note that this car owner has claimed insurance, and so next time, her premiums are going to be much higher and will probably receive less coverage options too. Bullying 101.
The dealership should replace her car no questions asked and the insurance assessor needs to be fired. If the police report puts all the responsibility on the other driver then guess what that other driver is 100% liable.
When the mechanic was test driving the car he and therefore the dealer were responsible for any problems. Putting it on TV was a great way to get customers to find another dealer. How dumb can the dealer get ?
No, actually the lady who pulled out in front of the mechanic was at fault per the police report. Her insurance should pay, but like always they are trying to pass blame to Ford to cover 30%. Hey she pulled out in front of you when you had the right away, but you are 30% at fault... that's called a scam All State are some cheap scapes.
@@lolz616 unfortunately you're wrong, they live in a state that allows partial fault so the dealership is still liable for those 30% so even though t the accident was 100%the fault of the other driver the liability still lies with both including the dealership since the mechanic was on the clock when it happened.
@@michaelcastro5339 Unfortunately you are wrong. If someone is driving down the road, and a vehicle makes a left turn into traffic and causes a collision they are 100% at fault. Per the police report they were at FAULT. That 30% liability a game the person at faults insurance usually tries to play in certain instances but its a cut and dry case of fault here and Ford will easily win in court if All State fights them on them paying 30% because all they have to show is the report that proves the driver pulled straight out into oncoming traffic, that's not avoidable, but nice try my guy.
@@lolz616 your not anyways at fault for a collision on a left turn, 2 years ago I was T-boned by an idiot while I was doing a left turn and it was 100% their fault, the police even gave him a ticket. Everything depends on the situation, I was doing a legal turn [traffic was stopped] and he was driving on the bus lane (too good to wait in traffic like everyone else at the light) and got me.
She should try escalating it to Ford Corporate, complain about the dealership and see if she can get someone involved from that end since the dealer refuses to take any responsibility at all.
The Dealerships are independently from the Name Ford. They do this to prevent liability and usually the Coporation don't care. I went through something similar. The only way, is to start writing reviews, ripoff reports, Google analytics, viral marketing, and so on until they are squeezed.
It's not the dealership's responsibility - it's 100% the left turning vehicle, period, full stop. If the *POLICE* determine fault is applicable to the Ford employee it is *their* jurisdiction to determine, NOT some idiotic insurance desk jockey. However, since they vehicle had been surrendered to the dealership it falls to them to ensure that the lady is not out a vehicle, or a dime, and bill the insurance company for any costs incurred taking care of the customer.
Yilden Delta -- your comment has been going around for decades in person & since we had an internet. Not to be rude but you have no idea of how the auto manufactures & dealers work & treat people. This is a century old issue. It's not a Ford Issue it's an insurance claim & maybe the dealer will come around if everyone follows the insurance procedure it sucks but I would guess the issues with horses & carriage repair 120 years ago was no different.
Literally the only thing a dealership is to a company is a way to sell cars. It would be the same deal if you bought a Sony TV from Walmart, it fell in the parking lot and broke you leg. You can't sue Sony.
The dealer DID NOT total the vehicle. It was someone that pulled in front of her vehicle while being driven by the mechanic testing it. (why they need to test drive a vehicle after an oil change is a good question).
@@dundonrl The dealership is responsible for the customer's vehicle when it is in their possession. It does not matter who turned in front of whom. The dealership needs to sort it out between the other person's insurance and their insurance.
(***Laughs OUT Loud***) Or having servicing done...Mmm-huh, this would also be a chance for another dealership to pickup the pieces and advertise better salesmanship than Tomball Ford with this woman; which is often what happens if it hasn't happened already...
These days, businesses need to realize you gotta take a loss sometimes to avoid millions of people seeing you not take care of a customer. Could be enough to put you out of business because you cheap out on one case.
And the car dealer wouldn't even have to take a loss. They could just replace the customer's car, then battle it out with the other driver's insurance company (Allstate). If their mechanic really was not at fault, Allstate will have to reimburse the dealer for the car.
@@Kayshots : And as I said above, the dealer wouldn't even have to take a loss. By refusing to replace the customer's car which was totalled while it was in the dealer's possession and being driven by his employee, the dealer is really making a bad business decision.
This happened to me once in Atlanta! The Nissan dealership settled with insurance with no issue, loan paid out with no money out of my pocket and sold me another car, and upgraded packaged for less than what I paid initially. Even gave us a brand new luxury car to drive as a loaner while it was all worked out.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirlyyeah I started a business like 8 or 9 years ago after somone saw a sauna I built and asked if I could make some gates for their deck and just over a year later I had more clients than I could handle without any advertising all just word of mouth and people seeing my work.
What i dont understand is WHY would you drive someones car around after an oil change?? I get maybe if you put new tires on, or struts, brakes etc. But oil? makes no sense. Just make a lap around your parking lot or let the car idle for a few mins 😂
The problem becomes financial then - you can bet the dealership and insurance companies have deeper legal pockets than this lady and can afford to drag it out in court well past her ability to keep in the game. Unjust and unfortunate. Passing the baton to her insurance company may be her best option, and as she was not at fault in any way, they can opt to not up her premiums. I sure hope she gets justice though, this is just a hot mess!
I would recommend to her going through her insurance. Yes she can sue but if she sues then she would be on her own even with a lawyer. She could potentially lose her case or be awarded what her insurance policy max are and then actually get less money because of the lawyer/court fees. Her insurance company would pay out on her max minus her deductible and subrogate or recover the loss. And I’m not sure why this dealership didn’t file a claim with their insurance though. But they should. Their driver was not a defensive driver.
@Dillon if they recover her money even 70% then no her insurance won’t be affected and most insurances offer accident forgiveness. So she’s better off going through her insurance.
This all happened going from their parking lot to their work bay? I don't see why he had it out on the street? I would total the rental car. Let them deal with that
Had employee at a dodge dealership steal my scat pack challenger my app gave me alerts had to rush get car back. He took it to racetrack and his house an hour away. People be careful who you trust with your car.
@@markjones354 yeah guy who stole mine said same thing but took mine to nascar speed way .mine was takin by the service valet not even a tech. He told me it would be locked in garage but nope phone gave me alerts dropped his address he was scared shitless when I pulled up took my car back.
When she dropped off her car to the dealership in PERFECT condition and they took the keys. It has TOO BE returned back to her in the same condition, they can't win she just needs the right attorney who will take on this injustice......
Yeah all repair places make you sign a paper. Only way to void it is if they drove it for an unnecessary reason. You can also state you don’t allow driving at any roads outside the lot.
A few years ago, the owner of a limited edition Mustang came to pick up his car from the dealership. The mechanic had taken it out and banged it up a lot. The dealership agreed to make the repairs. The owner said he wanted a replacement. The owner finally went to Ford Company to get a new car. Ths lady needs to do the same thing.
My cousin brought her brand new car back to the dealer for her first oil change. The mechanic didn't tighten the drain valve and the oil pumped out of the car after a few miles down the road Locking and burning the engine up. She had all of her receipts and had to get a lawyer to make the dealership change the engine because they said they were not responsible even though there was 100% evidence they caused it. They were changing the engine out and busted the windshield taking off the hood then laid the hood on top of the car scratching the paint and putting dents in the top of the car from the hood. They refused to fix anything but the motor and tried to make her pay for everything else. Needless to say her lawyer made them buy the car back and she went to a total different brand of vehicle.
The dealership is at fault for the insuring of its drivers. It was in the possession of the dealership at the time of the accident. There insurance should pay or sue Allstate for damages. Well that is unless the dealer is covered by Allstate. Mandatory insurance sure is good for insurance companies. She should be able to sue the dealer and be awarded triple damages.
@Eli Rodriguez-Torres this isn't about correcting a mistake, it's about correcting an attitude. The other driver had insurance and that company declined. She should be compensated by the insurance company for all damages including stress. The dealership should have replaced the vehicle immediately and went after the insurance company. The owner should have zero responsibility in getting a loaner and eventually a new car. The stress of the situation on the owner should be well compensated. Fines aren't put in place to only compensate for financial loss. It's to retaliate against the actions to hopefully correct future bad behavior.
@Eli Rodriguez-Torres although I said she should, the courts recognize emotional distress as a type of damage that can be recovered through a civil lawsuit. This means you can sue someone for emotional trauma or distress if you can provide evidence to support your claims.
What absolutely needs to happen is she needs to sue the other driver and make him deal with Allstate and it will be resolved quickly. I agree the Ford Dealership isn’t liable. Insurance is for the purchaser and you do not have to deal with the other person’s insurance, sue the hell out of them.
Sure the customer’s easiest way to resolve this is by filing a claim to her insurance company. She will be deemed not at fault & the at fault driver will be made to pay for the damages. But there really needs to be additional road testing insurance Dealerships must have to cover such accidents.
AVOID THIS DEALER!! They screwed me too. Tomball Fords theme; appointments aren't really appointments. If there's a problem; it's your/someone elses fault. Thanks for buying a vehicle. Now get bent! Service department is terrible, car checks are terrible. Believe me I've seen it first hand.
To A22DNAL: This is how these slick and astute companies deal and orchestrate ambiguities and loopholes that even attorneys find difficult trying to drive a camel through a needle's eye.
@@eddyvideostar True. And it’s sad. And I’m sick of it. These companies continue to rip the consumer off and they have zero repercussions! It’s frustrating! Exactly why I don’t deal with several companies B/C of their lack of pro-consumer policies.
Oh, I see why, its the lets go after our local Houston car dealer, while out of state corporate insurance pigs refuse to pay out a claim that is their responsibility, mentality! Are you a paid shill for All-State insurance?
The insurance can pay 100% dont be fooled folks. If it says "At Fault" in the police report, then the driver is responsible for the accident. Do not do a report a claim if you're not at fault. That claim could slightly raise your policy when it's up for renewal
Generally, the car's insurance goes with the car regardless of who is driving. In this case, her insurance pays, then goes after the dealership to recover. That contributory negligence crap is bulls××t!
My father is a mechanic and I wish I knew the answer to this question. He's said in the past that mechanics are supposed to be liable for what happens to the car. A quick Google search shows that there is indeed liability insurance for car mechanics. Assuming the dealership has something like that, the only thing I could think of is maybe while auto insurance in that state operates on a proportional fault bases that the mechanic's liability insurance does not? So when the other driver in this incident was found at 70% fault, the Mechanic's liability insurance sees the incident as 100% NOT the mechanics fault?
@@bgm769-g2k Correct. The other driver who hit the women's car was at fault. Therefore, the other driver needs to pay up. However, insurance companies don't like to shell out cash. I wonder what the police report says?
Wasn’t the companies fault the mechanic driving got hit by another car but the company insurance should be dealing with the person that hit the mechanic driving insurance and the company should be taking care of their client they did offer a rental car but the client should have to do nothing she wasn’t driving
They will but it will take a very long time. Easier if she just has her insurance pay and then years later her insurance will refund her deductible because her insurance then will battle them to get the money back. And insurance companies are better at getting their money back vs you fighting alone.
When you leave your car at a dealership , write down the mileage it shouldn’t be more than 30 miles more from drop off to pick up. Why are people just now realizing that dealerships drive people car off the lot to do a lot of stuff, even go home in people car, use it for the weekend. Especially if they have it for over a week , you really think it’s just sitting there?
@@taylorbug9 Very true , but trust me they do it all the time, if your car is at a dealership for longer than a week they driving it around, most drive the used cars that they try to sell everyday that’s parked in the front home . 🥴🥴🥴🥴
Some repairs require driving in order to be considered successful. My husband just put new brakes on our van and he had to drive it in order to confirm everything was fully functional. Considering that it was warranty work, it was likely mandatory for the mechanic to drive it before giving it back to the owner or they could be held legally liable for any potential issues.
Did you even watch the video? It's clearly Allstates issue. Granted the dealer isn't being very helpful but fault is clearly on the driver that caused the accident. Allstate is just trying to get out of paying.
@@Hank_Chill It absolutely does matter. Car accidents are not black and white. They are the result of the actions of two individuals, sometimes more. Not that I'm defending Allstate but if the Ford employee was actually speeding and not paying attention, they contributed to the accident and should be at fault.
@@Hank_Chill The employee is part of the Dealer and it doesn't matter if it was on public or private property. The dealer took the property out to public road. The Dealer has insurance which should of covered partial which is stated in the clip bc the Dealer was not at fault causing the accidental damages.
TOTALLY AGREE. And am I missing something? Why was he driving her vehicle on a road to begin with? Hell I live in FL, we don't even get out of our vehicles. When we get our oil changed. He should have only been driving it from the parking space to the garage & back to the parking space.
They gave her a rental for 3 weeks AND battled the insurance company for her. This has nothing to do with them. The driver of the insurance company that caused the accident should be paying.
SOME OF THESE COMPANIES WITH THEIR ENTITLEMENT AND LACK OF EMPATHY IS JARRING. THE LEAST THE DEALERSHIP CAN DO IS SUPPLY HER WITH A CAR UNTIL SHE GETS HER SITUATION IS SETTLED. THE INCIDENT DID HAPPEN WHILE AN EMPLOYEE WAS BEHIND HER WHEEL WITHOUT PERMISSION. THE EMPLOYEE HAD NO REASON DRIVING HER CAR FOR AN OIL CHANGE ANYWAY.
I doubt it..... there is always people who will stick with that kind of as$holes, even when it has been shown they were at fault, just because it makes them feel different from the rest of us.!
@@macondo0143 Plus the accident wasn't their fault, and that is the dealership is battling the other driver's insurance company over. They also gave the owner a free rental while they were doing that. If you rented a car and somebody hits you, then are you gonna pay for it? Or would you expect the insurance company of the other driver to?
@@SethPortland if I rented a car, someone stole the keys without my permission and used it in a way that I had not authorized them to, resulting in a crash and complete damage then yes... I would 100% hold them accountable. If you accidentally burn a house down while breaking and entering it's not an "accident" it's arson.
@UCtEvrFhXj401SUFY-TDYGBg let's see, I left my car to you to do repairs and YOUR employees crashed my car,then you "gave me" a "free rental" (you literally didn't, the insurance did and you take it from my payments) for less time than it is needed because you cannot accept the fault that was assigned to you and screwed me in the process, and still somehow want me to feel grateful. .. yeah someone is wrong here
I think that they should go after the mechanic's personal auto insurance policy, because he was the one driving it. Then his insurance can go after the business insurance for reimbursement. The company is required to have insurance for instances like these, because for diagnosing purposes the mechanic is required to drive the vehicle. The business owner should have gone out of his way to rectify the situation for the customer no matter what the cost. The business owner should know better than to treat his customers like this and should be ashamed of himself. Shame on that selfish b@stard.
Business suicide for that dealership. I imagine the other dealers in the area will advertise "Johnson Ford, we don't joyride in our customers vehicles!"
It sounds to me like the dealership is responsible for 30% of the damage. I would be walking the sidewalk in front of the dealership with a sign sayin "don't buy a car here, ask me why". Absolutely nothing they can do about it.
@@sNxUCExhAVOk I doubt she would get far suing the mechanic. Most people live paycheck to paycheck & will file bankruptcy to avoid paying for any claim. Her best bet is to go through her own insurance company & avoid further headaches.
I dropped my car off at my Dealership for service, my wife picked me up as the car would be there until the afternoon, just before picking it up we stopped at the local Diner and there was my Car in their Parking lot, I asked my wife if she had my spare keys on her and she gave them to me, I got in my car and we drove back to the Dealership and I went to the Service Manager and said to him I am taking my car, you need to go get whoever was Driving my Car. I told them that was not a Test Drive after Servicing my Car, that was unauthorized use of my car. They gave me 2 years of free Service for both of my Cars.
Yikes, imagine losing your dealerships reputation over a 30k car
30% of a 30k car lol.
Yeah. Tells a lot about the @h0le owner. Rather lose a customer, in fact many, than accept responsibility for his employees that really shouldn't be driving cars for warranty work repairs that don't need driving
The Ford dealer didn’t cause this. She needs to sort it out with the other party.
@@user-ln7of9gs4swhy were they driving it in the first place?? 🤔🤔
@@user-ln7of9gs4sdouble wrong. 1-the dealer is 100% responsible for the vehicle in their custody. The dealer needs to make the other party pay. If he can’t, that’s on him. 2-the driver at the moment of the accident is the one that needs to be insured. Not the car.
The lesson is don't buy anything from Tomball ford,PERIOD
Exactly
dont buy anything from dealerships period
@@nemeanlioness LMFAO
1st party repair SUCKS
Cornball Ford. I mean Drop-da-ball Ford. Foul ball Ford. ......
She should have to pay 0 dollars, literally she wasn’t even driving.
No need for "literally"
@A p Thank you.
@A p definitely a crappy situation, I do agree tho.
Exactly!!
well stop voting for unregulated insurance companies by voting for right wing nazis
30% of a $30,000 car is only $9,000, which they could claim from their own insurance. Imagine losing your entire reputation over that amount!
It's the principal of it.
whats crazy is service departments from dealerships make the bulk of the income. they make their money back in a week or 2 if they just payed for it. i know for a fact the ford dealership i work at would of just fixed what they broke and called it a day, because my boss really likes the fact the community has a high opinion of his business and public opinion does matter
@@DeathNikkiithe dealer is in the wrong, the only one violating the principle is them
@@mikewangg How is the dealer in the wrong? A police report indicates something else
Let us assume, that the mechanic had to do a test drive (warranty work) and didnt just take a joyride. In that case, how can you lose reputation (with ppl who can use their head and think) if you have done nothing wrong. The customer did nothing wrong. But neither did the dealership. I would agree with you, IF we had to take the word of the dealership or the mechanic. BUT, here we have a police report that assigns all blame solely on the other driver.
This happened to me in 1995, took my car into a dealer in for minor repair, next day the trunk and rear lights were smashed in.
The dealer wanted me to drive it off their property then come back the next day to discuss the damages.... and I refused.
They said they had no idea how it happened, but after awhile they admitted an elderly volunteer attendant backed it into a dumpster.
If mystery damage happens to your car at a dealer DO NOT drive it off their lot, it is a trap for them to say you did it.
EXACTLY ! ...
HOW RUDE!!! They actually told you to drive it off and come back the next day... Wow... They must have thought you wouldn't notice the damages on your car. I am thinking that dealership was getting kickbacks from insurance companies... lol...
@@1USAUSA I was young at the time in college....Yeah they knew what had happened all along but first said I drove it in like that. Then tried to get me to drive it off their property. Then they admitted what happened. Then about a month later, repair wise they changed their mind and refused to pay the body shop for a new trunk (repainted used rear trunk) and tail lights as they said they were being ripped off by my body shop choice. So we threatened a court suit and they agreed to pay for the repairs this is about a 3 month ordeal. Do not drive your damaged car off the lot! Cannot emphasize that enough.
Elderly volunteer attendant?
Good advice Eric Stevens. Sad that there are so many dishonest and unethical people out there.
Why is this even like this? This lady did nothing wrong and now she’s being punished.
I hope this time hardcore republican people don’t blame Democrat governor of Texas for happened to this lady , oh wait it is a red state lol 😂.
(actual answer and not flippant one) It shouldn't be happening to her, as a retired insurance adjuster, this is not how things are handled normally. I highly doubt this is Allstate causing the issue and more Tomball Ford not wanting to file the claim with their provider. Just let's me know not to use that dealership. Mechanic shouldn't have taken the vehicle onto a public road and they had possession of the vehicle so as I see it they need to do the right thing and file the claim for the 30%. For them to be dragging this out is very bad business practice and horrible customer service.
@@monikasturm2575 thank God someone with a level head who knows what they are talking about.
@@gordonfranklin yeah! Because in any other country she would be out of a car completely.
Its Texas a conservative state the protect the business man
Point of fact: Tomball is gonna lose 10x in sales & service because they squabble over dimes and nickels, hanging the customer out to dry
You know it, I know it and the American people know it. :)
Why do you have a black face picture as your profile pic?
Why do u have blackface on your pfp
I doubt 10X or even a large fraction of that since most won't watch or hear about this. Still hope they have a negative return long term over this.
Lol why do you care about his pfp?If you’re offended by this you should probably just not come on here anymore…
She brought it in for an oil change. There is no reason that mechanic should be driving anywhere beyond the garage area to the parking lot.
And it's usually beyond 15 miles.
they said it was also in for warranty work so if suspension work was done and it got aligned, they would take it on the street and make sure it didn't shudder or shake at speed. cars get test driven all the time.
Absolutely WRONG, I work for a dealership, and after ANY and ALL work is done by a mechanic, dealership or private mechanic, they are LEGALLY required to test drive it to make sure everything is o.k.
Cars have to be test driven before and after repairs, especially if wheels were removed or alignment performed.
I love that they force us to pay for car insurance (as we should) but then insurance companies will do everything in their power to not pay out for repairs!
Exactly I Always have Said Insurance Company's are Nothing but A RIP OFF..
@@kaharold that's why everyone should have a camera in their car.
Then drop you Or raise your rates!!
@@Emilthehun yep! I just got my car totaled because a dog and a man ran out in front of me, and the guy behind us didn’t see us, and smashed into the back of my car. The other driver was found to be 100% responsible because I had dash cam footage. Who knows if it would have turned out that way if I didn’t.
@@KatieJCruz exactly! Glad you had one. I've had one for years , and what I've noticed is people act totally different after they notice the cameras. Even cops are different. So its a win win for everyone. Glad you guys got what you deserved
Personally go against the Ford dealership employee and the dealership. Sue everyone, tie them up in court for a while.
Yeah horrible advice that man gave about going through your own insurance. Don’t do that. Fight them all the way through.
Ford has an ARMY of lawyers. She would waste
Soooo much money in court and she already has no car
@@iriedarling253 your not suing Ford motor company. Your suing the dealership.
@@iriedarling253 all the more reason Ford should step up and help het her car replaced.
Go to your insurance use there lawyers.
Well, what would’ve costed Tomball Ford a few thousand bucks, just costed them a boatload in lost sales . I will make sure to spread the word about this dealership
Exactly, Ronnie A. I am pretty sure they lost so many sales because of this. SMH!!!
I checked their social media accounts and it seems no one is really commenting about the incident . In fact they still have a few customers buying from them.
@@testing448 Of course... they will always have some customers but not as many as before.
The dealership was not found at fault, why would it effect their sales?
@@joeyking8756 My friend. Why is it hard for you to understand this situation. The whole thing happened UNDER their WATCH. She left her perfectly working car with this dealership for maintenance and to pick it up just as she left it in the same condition. This has to do with TRUST. No matter how this is not dealership fault or NOT, Tomball has a HUGE responsibility to make this right for her. For pete's sake she bought her car from their dealership and ONE OF THEIR OWN EMPLOYEE was driving or behind the wheel when this accident happened. This news bit is bringing BAD PUBLICITY for Tomball, Joey. Just for that reason alone, I would do whatever little I can do to help her and be on the people's or customers' side. *Would you leave your happy and healthy kids with your neighbors to watch them while you had to go somewhere for while and then come back to find every bones in your kids' body broken? Then, for your neighbors to deny that they did anything Wrong and its not their FAULT.* lol... think about it.
Am I missing something? What is the car doing out in the streets for a first oil change?
Basically the mechanic had an errand and used your car. Is that Ethical? Let a jury decide.
Warranty work
Amen! Exactly what I'm asking!
@@whearts Or you could pay attention to the story. Warranty work was completed, so it was test driven.
Yes, you are. They clearly said it was there for an oil change and warranty work.
Even if it wasn’t the dealership’s fault, it still happened under their watch
Doesn't matter unfortunately because they will say your insurance covers uninsured drivers so she has to go through her insurance for whatever the at fault driver's insurance didn't cover.
They have insurance for that as well they just don’t want to use it to pay her She needs to sue them
@@fashionlife5348 yes they are just passing the buck. 🇬🇧 👍
“Responsibility is a unique concept... You may share it with others, but your portion is not diminished. You may delegate it, but it is still with you... If responsibility is rightfully yours, no evasion, or ignorance or passing the blame can shift the burden to someone else.” Admiral Hyman G. Rickover
@@fashionlife5348 You have insurance as well.. Are you gonna use it to pay for something that wasn’t your fault?
The dealership and Allstate could buy a ton of good publicity if they just did the right thing, but they prefer to look like jerks to save a few bucks.
Exactly
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Yep exactly
Hopefully now they both loose more money from this
Most of us will forget that we ever saw this by tomorrow....
Allstate: “you’re in good hands” 😂 until you crash
Allstate is the worst insurance company you can have
You have Allstate, DON’T HIT ME!
That’s what all insurance companies are. Quick to get your monthly premium, and when it’s time for claims, you go through a hell of a circus.
Mercury is right there as a crappy auto insurance company
All they give you is the finger.
Ummm.
These people never watched Judge Judy.
The dealership took possession of the vehicle and it was damaged under their possession. It was their responsibility to ensure that it was returned in proper condition.
judge judy isnt legal standing
Most garages have a get out clause of ‘vehicle left at owner’s discretion’. Meaning that they are not responsible for any damage.
@@tonyhaynes9080 exactly what they do.. I have no idea what the resolution to this case ever was but the dealers try to weazle out however they can. since their mechanic was driving the car and deemed at 30% fault, it is possible a lawsuit went somewhere, the problem with just claiming it on your own insurance is you have to pay the deductible and if you are upsdie down on the load you have to pay off the note in full instantly or roll a whole lot of negative equity into a new purchase.. i always wish there was followup to stories like this to see what happened in the end
@@tonyhaynes9080 Which is completely meaningless, only the LAW matters.
@@tonyhaynes9080 if that’s how they wanna play it then I’ll go to the dealership and tell them I’m not responsible for any damages to their reputation🖕😊🖕
I was considering this dealership for a new vehicle, just scratched them off the list
@shaun How can you come to that conclusion from a single youtube comment. Idiot.
He’s a trumpy sheep that’s why 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 run along Cheeto Jesus is calling😎
@shaun when your buying cash you don’t worry about credit scores fool run along little boy
@@mohammadrahman4575 cuz he's poor and jealous that you can get a new car and they can't. Typical internet jealousy.
Yep, the bad PR will hurt this business much more than them paying out on a claim ever would.
So after getting into an accident while test driving a customer’s vehicle, the dealership decided to not call the customer and inform them that their vehicle had been in an accident. And instead lets the customer come pick up the vehicle to realize it’s been wrecked.
CRAZY INDEED
Gutless wonders.
I thought when they text drive it its in the area on the property if its big enough ...this dude was out on a joy ride doing things he shouldn't and dang its a brand new car they didn't need to text drive anything
Well that is because I is a Ford’s car.
@@KIMjB72
Kim,
watch and listen carefully to the interview with the owner. The shady reporting doesn't emphasise that warranty work was required..so driving it to confirm fault or fix fault WAS required.
And, oh, while it's there, can you do the oil and filter?
less sensational, more truth.
This is so wrong!!! Why should she have to pay for something that she didn’t do
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Ikr…not sure why they think the bad press is worth only 30% of this woman’s car.
@@twdjt6245 right? Now no one will buy from them.. their loss I guess 😂
Nobody wants to be responsible. Some people have no conscience.
Because Texas
The dealership has the liability since they were in possession and driving the vehicle at the time of the accident. I hope she contacted the AG about this.
Ken Paxton Will definitely fix it in a hurry
no. I can go drive your car and have possession but it dont mean Im liable if someone hits me. Dealership not at fault at all there were thousands of similar cases, although liability is usually disputed
Dealership might be found liable in a case like this if, for example, they broke the car on their own parking lot by driving it into a wall. Still though, such a case would still have debatable liability
In this story the auto insurance is responsible. They even accepted responsibility, they just havent decided which of the two auto insurance companies is more at fault
@artyomarty391 The dealer is 100% responsible. As an employee of a dealership, you are insured and are supposed to be held liable in any event that a customer car is damaged. Thats what businesses have insurance for, unlike the womens personal insurance who will only cover damage if she is driving
@@dylanhall391 The dealership might be responsible if this accident happened on their lot, and due to their negligence. I m saying "might" because there have been many cases where even in these favorable circumstances, the dealership still wasnt responsible after a trial
Here the dealership took the vehicle to the road. Not only that, but the customer's auto insurance companies actually accepted a responsibility to pay, but it just hasnt settled who was at fault.
Its very likely any insurance that the dealership has does not cover accidents when the vehicle is in neutral possession, aka not on the lot
Women's personal insurance does not care much who was driving. Your auto insurance is tied to your car, not to you. This is like auto insurance 101... If you dont know even this most basic concept you probably shouldnt comment any further
@@artyomarty391 No, that stinks. The dealer's insurance should cover the cost fully. If her insurance pays then her auto insurance will go up considerably and she will be penalized for several years when none of it is her fault.
She shouldn't have to pay a dime, the mechanic that had the wreck was employed by the dealership and the buck stops there! I hope you never become a judge in any capacity, common sense and decency are required.
Together or alone, Tomball Ford and Allstate have the opportunity to do the right thing here. I will remember this story every time I see a Tomball Ford or Allstate commercial.
Something similar to this happened to me (in Delaware) and the dealership took responsibility and fixed my car, but only after I confronted the owner in a heated argument. Tomball Ford is going to get a lot of bad PR attention because of this. You would think they would pay up to avoid the bigger problem that results in the loss of potential customers.
Supposed to be in good hands right? Ha!
@@southernsass2937 Allstate is trying to protect their customer to pay only what their customer caused in damages. The other people are not in good hands. That's not Allstate's job nor their saying The you're in good hands part is their customer not the other person. FYI I don't like Allstate they do way to many comparative negligence claims. That being said your comment isn't funny, just wrong.
@@truthseeker3909 Both need to pay up. This woman is left with no vehicle!
@@jessebaldwin2661 They were waiting to see how it played out first. No media attention, no resolution. Now they pretty much forced to do what they are supposed to do in the first place lol.
Good job, Tomball Ford. Instead of taking responsibility for the issue and keeping your customer happy, you've chosen to annoy 530,000 tube viewers.
and growing
I have heard that any publicity is good publicity. But I don't think that is true in this case.
@@CTSFanSam Agreed, with word of mouth being the most influential
Not only that. They probably lost many many sales.
Exactly and don't ever buy a Ford. The crap I have dealt with since February 2020 with ford service is unbelievable. I can't even make up the incompetence of Ford.
I wonder how many sales that dealer just lost over one car.
I’m absolutely 100% sure, I will NEVER use that dealer. Not even if I just have to use their bathroom. And that goes for Allstate too!
@@oooof6861 Allstate is not the problem Texas law might be the issue
Another I hope!
Exactly I know for sure nobody would eat to do business with them after that bs
Once the dealer sells a car, they forget about the customer. It's all about the money, not good customer service.
What a bad lawyer.
You dont EVER accept an insurance claim against you if you are NOT at fault.
Thats a terrible lawyer.
Best advice ever what you on about? If your company agrees it's not your fault all they need is other persons details and insurance and pay you out. Why bother going through all the crap which could take months to get anything.This lawyer is honest rtare this days as he could have made a nice lumb.
He is stupid
That’s not what he said tho. She has full coverage on her financed brand new car, filing through her insurance doesn’t count against her. Her insurance handles the dealership and other driver, while giving her a rental and fixing her car. It’s what you pay for to have insurance. Let them handle the headache.
Are you a lawyer?
Moral of the story is never do business with Tomball Ford.
Spread the word around, MJ... I like how all these so-called FRIENDLY dealerships pretend to be on the customers' side and as soon as they run into an issue with their customers they will quickly and swiftly WASH THEIR HANDS of their RESPONSIBILITIES. This is exactly shown on this video.
I wouldn’t do business with Ford at all. Save yourself the headache and buy a Japanese car
@@1USAUSA yo no one is your freind people one want money
@@beanbagboys4202 You have a point, but they have to be friendly first or pretend to be FRIENDLY to get your WALLET... lol...
Yes, when I take my car to the FORD dealer for an oil change they ALWAYS screw something up, never this bad though...
That's petty just give her another car, especially since she wasn't behind the wheel... EXTRA PETTY
@@blackspider9561 it’s more expensive to fix then to replace the vehicle
Yeah, just give her another car! It only costs that much more for everyone else buying a new car to make it right, and cover for a crooked insurance company. Not the mechanics fault, not the dealers fault.
People are nuts, with ZERO brain cells. ZERO!
I think you missed the story. Not the dealers fault. You must test drive after warranty repair. Read what you signed on repair order.
@@drz400sm5 you must work at that dealership lmao
I did work in dealerships for many years. If we were at fault we bent over backwards to take care of the customer. In this case put the blame where it belongs. The driver at fault.
This is absolutely ridiculous! She is not liable.
I'd sue the mechanic
@michele mcguire can't sue them, police didn't rule them at fault, it was the guy in the BMW with Allstate at fault.. Guess people aren't really watching the video
Just file claim with Your own insurance. Then let them fight it out. That's why you buy insurance
@@darwinLee81283 She is SOL if she didnt have gap insurance.
@@unusualfire prob didn't which is why she went to the media. This is such an easy fix. Obviously you wld never want ur dealership to crash your car. But this is what insurance is for. If her mother was driving and got into an accident. She gonna sue her mom. No. She wld make a claim on her OWN insurance to make her whole again. And if another party was involved in the accident you allow you insurance to handle it on your behalf. This is just how it works. No need to drag the dealership down and put on the news
My mother has a case when her car was at the dealer awaiting service it was hit by another customer’s car being driven by a dealership employee. When she called to ask whether her car was ready they said it would be another week because they were waiting for “parts”. Turns out the car was at a body shop and the dealer was hoping to get it repaired and not tell her about it! Thankfully I went down there myself and when they couldn’t show me her car they admitted to what had happened. They did pay for the repair but they lost not just her business but mine as well!
They should have given her a loaner too
Why was he driving her vehicle anyway, he never should have left the car lot, the dealership is responsible for your vehicle when u take it to them
Yes, that is my question as well if it was just an oil change.
@George L exactly idiots
@@jokerace8227 That's not what was said in the story.
@@water7305 first of all if it was warranty work they should be able to take care off all repairs at the dealership unless he was just test driving it to make sure everything is okay other than that her car shouldn’t have left the dealership
So you don’t expect someone to test drive your car after a repair is done? Especially if it was something dealing with a safety issue? Lol don’t be dumb!!!
Their technician was behind the wheel. Tomball Ford should be held responsible and do the right thing.
But if you watch and listen to the video, the police ruled that they weren't at fault and that the other driver insured by Allstate is at fault. So they aren't responsible
@@gapplevr4915 I watched the video, and believe Allstate determined that 30% of the liability was on the mechanic driver because of some frivolous assumption that he was "distracted". So, I would think that the dealership would be responsible for at least that portion. I agree with others... don't buy or get services from that dealership!!
@@SpllenigBeeWniner The fact that Allstate *claims* the dealership's driver was 30% at fault doesn't make it so. What is their basis for that claim? The other driver unlawfully turned in front of this driver; they are 100% responsible.
Yes, they should take care of their customer first, and then let their insurance fight with Allstate to get their reimbursement.
@@gapplevr4915 They had their customers car, they are responsible to make it right to their customer. Then they need to fight with the other driver to get their money back for the other driver who was at fault.
The dealership needs to pay her, and then sue the other driver’s insurance to recoup their loss. Yes, they aren’t responsible for the crash, but they are responsible for the condition of their customer’s car while it’s in their possession.
Not when damage happens through NO fault of their own...
@@ffjsb it was in their possession when it happened
Have to disagree. If, for ex., a salesperson at the dealership carelessly backed his demonstrator into your car, the courts would would rule that the salesperson was negligent, and so the dealer would be liable for the negligence of their employee.
However: If, say, a customer backed his car into your car that was properly parked by the dealer, then the dealer would not be responsible for the damages, because the dealer was in no way negligent.
@@meadowsmydog I'm not saying the crash was their fault, but if it hadn't been in their possession, it never would've been damaged. It's not in the customer to figure out on her own. I don't care what their legal responsibility is, they have a moral responsibility to take care of their customer
I agree with you Gabriel. The dealership, if they were smart, would pay the lady and go after the insurance company. It’s pennies in the scheme of things but the dealer could be “the hero” and gain much more in positive free publicity. And they would surely recoup the money from the insurance company.
Cant find an update to this, hope she get her problem fixed.
My husband and I were looking at a new truck. Tomball in Houston has some amazing prices. After seeing this, we both agree it is time to look elsewhere.
Yeah they would probably wreck it outside the showroom and say your liable since you signed the deal.
You could always buy the truck there and take it elsewhere for service.
You can buy from them and use different dealer for maintenance....
@@teekay_1 or just don't, that's the point of it ( they don't want to spend their money at a crappy dealership
@@calvinjohn26 Maybe, but in every dealership, the sales side is a separate profit/loss center than the service side.
She isn’t liable. The fact she needs to go through all this bull is disgusting.
It’s HER insurance company, that she has been paying premiums to, that are required to do this for her. THEY will make sure all responsible parties pay what is required. The fact that she didn’t even notify them is the problem. Non of the parties WANT to pay, it’s the insurance company that will make sure they do. Oh, and they will replace her car while doing all this.
@@michaelalbert8474 I sure hope so. Thank you for the comment.
💯💯💯💯💯
@@JenuinDon't believe everything you read.
@@TheEnd-dy1dd I agree. We need to do our research and check the facts.
The fact that the dealership refused to even contact her. Tells me they’re more responsible than they let on.
her vehicle left their property for an oil change.
@@spencerphilippinedream3706 thats what i was saying. That mechanic took her SUV for a joyride and totalled it.
I think you mean, “irresponsible.”
Fact of the matter is, the car was on their property and was destroyed. They refuse to take responsibility, take them to court.
@@oceanbytez847 Exactly, he had no business taking the car out on the road if it was only there for an oil change.
Tomball Ford paid with the 1.4 Million views on UA-cam and all the lost new customers.
Remember ... DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM TOMBALL FORD.
Even if it wasn’t the dealerships responsibility, that’s just bad publicity for them.
What do you mean *Even if it wasn't the dealership's responsibility?* Bruh!!! Of course, they have responsibility to make this right for this lady. She didn't expect to leave her perfectly good car with them and end up picking it up completely totalled. Just because this incident will bring bad publicity to my business, I would do whatever I can do make her happy. Just because of this news bit, this dealership probably lost many many car sales totalling hundreds of thousands of dollars a lot more than the cost of this lady's SUV. SMH!!!
@@1USAUSA do you not understand english?
@@avega2792 its figure of speak, my friend. I know what you mean but you are wrong is what I was saying. lol...
@@1USAUSA I don’t think you understand english at all.
@@avega2792 ROTFLMAO!!! Okay, if you say so, Professor... LOL...
Well, I will not be purchasing any Ford products; this Dealership is scum!
Check the cameras.
Your not going to buy Ford cause a stealership is scum?
Karen move
Me too. My Ford started to give me problems. I return that crap ASAP. 😂
Corporate greed is the NEW GANGSTER of our beloved Nation.
My wife took in her NEW F-150 in 2014 to the dealership for it's first oil change and tire rotation. The mechanic didn't tighten the lug nuts on one of the front wheels, my wife got on the road and the wheel fell off. A lot of damage to the front end. The dealership said they'd fix the damage for free. I said, "No, your going to give her a 2015 F-150 exactly like the one she brought in and we'll owe exactly what we do now, with the exact amount of months left on the loan, and we'll all walk away from this episode knowing better". The dealership had a NEW F-150 for my wife 2 days later.
This is interesting. Good thing your wife got a replacement. Even if they fixed her truck, there would be depreciation from the accident being on the carfax. Was there a lot of push back from the dealership?
@@BenJS2 No push back whatsoever, I suspect they addressed their lawyer and he /she advised them they'de come out better in the end by doing what we/I suggested. Needless to say, we've never gone back to that dealership again and, unfortunately, it cost that mechanic his job. They did a 2-day emergency repair on her wrecked truck and tried to get us to take it, but I insisted on the new one.
You probably scared the crap out of them!! lol 👍🏽. Maybe you could help this lady too!? Seems like they're pulling that BS only on the ladies....
@@LMcQuinn I sure wish I could help, but it appears this lady has already started the legal process, can't scare 'em now that everything is out in the open. People just gotta remember when you drop your car off at a dealership for any work, you gotta specify that your car is NOT to be driven off the lot.
@@4dognight192 So true!! 👍🏽
This is just terrible. Dealership left this woman to just “deal with it” and the damage happened under their care. Not right and not fair. I hope she resolves this and gets a new car soon..
Yes! They should give her a new car after that and fire the mechanic.
@@jennyl.2689 Fire him for what? it was not his fault.
& they refuse to let you drive the car while they work on it too. Hell NO.
Unfortunately the dealership only cares about you when you are buying the car after you actually buy it they dont care about you anymore. When you have an issue they are always too busy to help you out and always leave you to deal with it on your own
That would be the last time I'd do business with that dealership.
We live in the age where no one takes responsibility for anything.
Selfishness Self- Centeredness! That we think is the root of our troubles.
Passing the buck.
well if wasn't the dealer ship fault the at fault driver should. but how the dealership handle it was bad
I blame pale pirates everywhere
Sounds like a Ford dealer response.
This piece should be titled, "Why insurance companies suck."
All of them. They are straight gangsters.
Actually this a Texas State law that allows Auto Insurance companies to divide percentages of who's at fault. Now I know Florida's No Fault Insurance may not bad after all.
@@jonniehickson5599 I agree, insurance is a racket. I prefer to set high deductibles with lower premiums and then pay for small incidents out of my own pocket rather than claim only to have the insurers bump up my premiums. I apply that approach to my vehicles, homes, and health insurance, and basically only use insurance for catastrophic events.
Yes.
Insurance Companies: You pay your high premiums on time, just don't make a legitimate claim because if you do this is the result. No doubt they suck!!
When a dealer or repair shop is in possession of a car, and something happens to it, they should automatically be 100% responsible for EVERYTHING. This needs to change.
boohoo. This is what happens when YOU people continue to fight over left vs right wing instead of fighting to things that matter in your daily lives.
This happened to me. The mechanic was out speeding in my car, the police tried to stop him and he ran. He totaled my car and it turns out he had a warrant out for his arrest. My car was about a year old so the dealership put me in a new car and pro-rated my equity and I just continued my payments. The nice part was that my car was a base model and the new one was top of the line for the same price. My wife turned on the waterworks and they were falling over themselves to make her happy.
That is a good dealership
@@youtubesucks1499 And a good wife
Name of dealership ?
@@av36Cry Me a River Ford Ltd.
Yes! Same with me! I may have cried on the phone when they told me the bad news.
The only bigger thief than an Insurance Company is a Car Dealership !!
Exactly, when 2 scammers go at each other !!!
Hear,hear.
Those were my thoughts too, at first, but after considering it I think the only other crooks 🤥, that are bigger 💩 than these, are the bankers and politicians, 🤢🤮👿🤬 but it's a close call. 🤔🧐
This sounds like a good reason to put this car dealership out of business.
Seconded
Thirded
Good little Fascist.
She should call her insurance agent and let them deal with it, period.
If the tech was legit driving the car and got tagged by a ticketed driver...what has the dealership got to do with anything?
@@u2mister17 exactly, people are blasting this dealer when they actually did more then they had to do. this is not uncommon and your insurance will sue the other for the remaining liability.
The car and incident is insured by someone it just needs to be figured out.
Putting all those people out of work for the loss of a $50k or less vehicle seems pretty extreme.
You can report them and put them under investigation causing them a hell of a lot of trouble.
Lesson learned: Don't go to Tomball Ford.
Oil change doesn’t require touring around on public streets
That is true, and now the dealer is responsible. They must give her a new car because it’s in guarantee.
Like it says in video, they were doing some other work as well.
I know right let me take this to jiffy lube and have a Ferris Buelar day off.
Right. Whatever minor warranty work she brought the car in for likely didn't warrant driving it off the property.
@@tylerpashel1789 brand new, what else need to be work on?
I’ll remember this the next time a dealership advertises about being “friendly”.
Tomball Ford
Lodi honda
i dont see why the dealership is really the bad one. Allstate admitted their driver was 70% at fault so why should the dealer be paying for all of it? If the dealer wasnt standing their ground Allstate would have gotten away with insurance fraud no problem
@@steelwitness that's not the issue. The dealership is 30% responsible and refusing to pay their share. Allstate said they will cover their 70%.
@@gpturner0924 no allstate did not. Allstate filed a lawsuit is what Allstate did lol
Why would you need to "test drive" an oil change?
How is the dealership NOT responsible? Disgusting.
Teflon dealership
Watch the video…. Allstate has deflected blame… typical insurance scam games…
It's the fault of the two drivers, not the dealership. She needs to make a claim and let the insurance companies fight it out. There's no news here - move on.
@@jimroscovius
But because the driver was their employee it does put liability on the dealership.
The same way employers may worry about what we post on social media cause it reflects them.
Only in this case it's more directly a part of their business. Especially considering its a person they instructed to do the work.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly Bingo. Liability for employee mistakes/misconduct is 50% of the reason why the dealership has insurance to begin with. If this lady was smart then she claimed on her insurance (who would have then taken the dealership and their insurance to court for her).
I don’t understand why some companies can’t take responsibility for their employees actions.
She should be able to sue the individual.
It's called capitalism. Likewise. Insurance companies will lobby the government and mandate everyone have insurance. But when time comes up to pay the small guys, they will find every reason and way to squeeze out of paying.
I paid for accident coverage. I don't care how the hell it happened or what my state was of being at that time. I paid for insurance. You pay up.
On paper, it is going to down with a note that this car owner has claimed insurance, and so next time, her premiums are going to be much higher and will probably receive less coverage options too.
Bullying 101.
@@harsimran1 this is what they do with medical insurance as well. Just horrible insurance all around.
Especially a car dealership! She bought it a few months earlier. And it won't cost them much to fix. Most of cost is labour.
@@TravelingwithValeman77 but they said the car was totaled. So they would have to give her a new car.
Basically she's getting screwed and it's not even her fault
The dealership should replace her car no questions asked and the insurance assessor needs to be fired. If the police report puts all the responsibility on the other driver then guess what that other driver is 100% liable.
When the mechanic was test driving the car he and therefore the dealer were responsible for any problems. Putting it on TV was a great way to get customers to find another dealer. How dumb can the dealer get ?
No, actually the lady who pulled out in front of the mechanic was at fault per the police report. Her insurance should pay, but like always they are trying to pass blame to Ford to cover 30%. Hey she pulled out in front of you when you had the right away, but you are 30% at fault... that's called a scam All State are some cheap scapes.
@@lolz616 You’re completely right however I think the customer service of the dealer maybe in question but she seems like a bit of Karen so..
@@lolz616 unfortunately you're wrong, they live in a state that allows partial fault so the dealership is still liable for those 30% so even though t the accident was 100%the fault of the other driver the liability still lies with both including the dealership since the mechanic was on the clock when it happened.
@@michaelcastro5339 Unfortunately you are wrong. If someone is driving down the road, and a vehicle makes a left turn into traffic and causes a collision they are 100% at fault. Per the police report they were at FAULT. That 30% liability a game the person at faults insurance usually tries to play in certain instances but its a cut and dry case of fault here and Ford will easily win in court if All State fights them on them paying 30% because all they have to show is the report that proves the driver pulled straight out into oncoming traffic, that's not avoidable, but nice try my guy.
@@lolz616 your not anyways at fault for a collision on a left turn, 2 years ago I was T-boned by an idiot while I was doing a left turn and it was 100% their fault, the police even gave him a ticket. Everything depends on the situation, I was doing a legal turn [traffic was stopped] and he was driving on the bus lane (too good to wait in traffic like everyone else at the light) and got me.
She should try escalating it to Ford Corporate, complain about the dealership and see if she can get someone involved from that end since the dealer refuses to take any responsibility at all.
The Dealerships are independently from the Name Ford. They do this to prevent liability and usually the Coporation don't care. I went through something similar. The only way, is to start writing reviews, ripoff reports, Google analytics, viral marketing, and so on until they are squeezed.
It's not the dealership's responsibility - it's 100% the left turning vehicle, period, full stop.
If the *POLICE* determine fault is applicable to the Ford employee it is *their* jurisdiction to determine, NOT some idiotic insurance desk jockey.
However, since they vehicle had been surrendered to the dealership it falls to them to ensure that the lady is not out a vehicle, or a dime, and bill the insurance company for any costs incurred taking care of the customer.
Yilden Delta -- your comment has been going around for decades in person
& since we had an internet.
Not to be rude but you have no idea of how the auto manufactures & dealers
work & treat people. This is a century old issue.
It's not a Ford Issue it's an insurance claim & maybe the dealer will come around
if everyone follows the insurance procedure it sucks but I would guess the issues
with horses & carriage repair 120 years ago was no different.
Literally the only thing a dealership is to a company is a way to sell cars. It would be the same deal if you bought a Sony TV from Walmart, it fell in the parking lot and broke you leg. You can't sue Sony.
@Cerus98 That makes sense in the USA, sure thing. Allow a company with a vested interest in *NOT* paying determine who is at fault.
Imagine a better headline “Dealership gifts women new car after totaling hers during an oil change.”
Or even the dealership reimbursing the cost would work as well 🤷♀️ anything except “not our fault :/“
They really should just gift her a new car
The dealer DID NOT total the vehicle. It was someone that pulled in front of her vehicle while being driven by the mechanic testing it. (why they need to test drive a vehicle after an oil change is a good question).
they missed a historic PR opportunity for a few bucks in advertising, I don't think these people are the smartest tools in the shed.
@@dundonrl The dealership is responsible for the customer's vehicle when it is in their possession. It does not matter who turned in front of whom. The dealership needs to sort it out between the other person's insurance and their insurance.
Like most Americans, I can't afford an attorney.
But, I can afford a box of lead!
Missed one: Can you afford life in a 8x10 cell?
Anyone considering buying at Tomball Ford in the future needs to find another dealer STAT.
In plus Ford stands for found on road dead 🤣
The term ”stat” is SO misused, the only time it should be used is in a medical situation.
@@BigButtocks967 Not really. It's 'shorthand' for 'straightaway', which means immediately, so I used it correctly.
Don't ever buy a Ford!!! Period!!!
(***Laughs OUT Loud***) Or having servicing done...Mmm-huh, this would also be a chance for another dealership to pickup the pieces and advertise better salesmanship than Tomball Ford with this woman; which is often what happens if it hasn't happened already...
These days, businesses need to realize you gotta take a loss sometimes to avoid millions of people seeing you not take care of a customer. Could be enough to put you out of business because you cheap out on one case.
reminds of that case of a used dealership that humiliated a poor pizza guy. Went out of business.
No
And the car dealer wouldn't even have to take a loss. They could just replace the customer's car, then battle it out with the other driver's insurance company (Allstate). If their mechanic really was not at fault, Allstate will have to reimburse the dealer for the car.
The car is $43k at max.
Losing even 10 customers due to this is $430k.. Smart
@@Kayshots : And as I said above, the dealer wouldn't even have to take a loss. By refusing to replace the customer's car which was totalled while it was in the dealer's possession and being driven by his employee, the dealer is really making a bad business decision.
This happened to me once in Atlanta! The Nissan dealership settled with insurance with no issue, loan paid out with no money out of my pocket and sold me another car, and upgraded packaged for less than what I paid initially. Even gave us a brand new luxury car to drive as a loaner while it was all worked out.
Caude some businesses want a happy customer and good word of mouth. Others pinch every penny, and don't think losing 1 customer matters.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirlyyeah I started a business like 8 or 9 years ago after somone saw a sauna I built and asked if I could make some gates for their deck and just over a year later I had more clients than I could handle without any advertising all just word of mouth and people seeing my work.
Oh you mean there's a way to properly handle this accident by the business? Crazy they decided to this instead
@thecommenter9671
lol, there's always a right way and a wrong way. In this case there's a better way.
@@CurlyFromTheSwirly yea first part was sarcasm of course theirs a right way
What i dont understand is WHY would you drive someones car around after an oil change?? I get maybe if you put new tires on, or struts, brakes etc. But oil? makes no sense. Just make a lap around your parking lot or let the car idle for a few mins 😂
The lawyer trying to persuade her not to sue. She can sue both the insurance company, the dealership and the other driver
The problem becomes financial then - you can bet the dealership and insurance companies have deeper legal pockets than this lady and can afford to drag it out in court well past her ability to keep in the game. Unjust and unfortunate. Passing the baton to her insurance company may be her best option, and as she was not at fault in any way, they can opt to not up her premiums. I sure hope she gets justice though, this is just a hot mess!
Seems like Show me honest lawyer ......
I would recommend to her going through her insurance. Yes she can sue but if she sues then she would be on her own even with a lawyer. She could potentially lose her case or be awarded what her insurance policy max are and then actually get less money because of the lawyer/court fees. Her insurance company would pay out on her max minus her deductible and subrogate or recover the loss. And I’m not sure why this dealership didn’t file a claim with their insurance though. But they should. Their driver was not a defensive driver.
She is not winning, not on her own against an insurance company they are pos this is what they do.
@Dillon if they recover her money even 70% then no her insurance won’t be affected and most insurances offer accident forgiveness. So she’s better off going through her insurance.
This is unacceptable. People should boycott that dealership.
Do a Google review. It would help a lot
Stand out side of dealer with a leaflet explaining what happened, and give to everybody that walks into the place .
People should drop All State, that insurance company needs to go bankrupt
Buy a Chevy!!!
Avoid Tomball FORD, dont buy or get your vehicle serviced.
Do a Google review it put pressure on them to take more action
Everyone needs to go on google and give them one star until they do something to help this poor lady. She wasn’t even driving.
yup give them a 1 star rating on Google and say crap about them, may God bless you brotha
@@mkviis you sar the truth. Not crap
Leave them the review they deserve!
This all happened going from their parking lot to their work bay? I don't see why he had it out on the street? I would total the rental car. Let them deal with that
I have a question why was the technician taking the car on road test just for an oil change. All dealerships are dishonest and just horrible !!!
Had no business taking car off the lot.
She was having warranty work done as well, not just an oil change. Some work requires a test drive
Had employee at a dodge dealership steal my scat pack challenger my app gave me alerts had to rush get car back. He took it to racetrack and his house an hour away. People be careful who you trust with your car.
He was driving because she also had some warranty work done as well and I assume he was making sure his work was done correctly 🤔
@@markjones354 yeah guy who stole mine said same thing but took mine to nascar speed way .mine was takin by the service valet not even a tech. He told me it would be locked in garage but nope phone gave me alerts dropped his address he was scared shitless when I pulled up took my car back.
When she dropped off her car to the dealership in PERFECT condition and they took the keys. It has TOO BE returned back to her in the same condition, they can't win she just needs the right attorney who will take on this injustice......
FORD FIX OR REPAIR DAILY
@@ekop1778 found on road dead and found on rubbish dump = Ford
Read the repair order you sign when dropping it off for service
FORD = Fix Or Reck Dealership
Yeah all repair places make you sign a paper. Only way to void it is if they drove it for an unnecessary reason. You can also state you don’t allow driving at any roads outside the lot.
Damn the Ford dealership should just pay the 30 percent smh
i know right
How is Ford Supposed to Pay, the One Who hit Her Vehicle is Fully at Fault!!! Allstate should Pay 100% it's Why We All Pay to have Insurance!!!!
@@DBDG0499 Because they shouldn’t be test driving it for an oil change.
@@rodarte420 ...I bet they were testing lunch in that car.
It’s not like they don’t have the money if that ain’t no convoluted💩 I don’t what is🤷🏾♂️
A few years ago, the owner of a limited edition Mustang came to pick up his car from the dealership. The mechanic had taken it out and banged it up a lot. The dealership agreed to make the repairs. The owner said he wanted a replacement. The owner finally went to Ford Company to get a new car. Ths lady needs to do the same thing.
When the vehicle is in your care, operating under your employees control, you are responsible.
My cousin brought her brand new car back to the dealer for her first oil change. The mechanic didn't tighten the drain valve and the oil pumped out of the car after a few miles down the road Locking and burning the engine up. She had all of her receipts and had to get a lawyer to make the dealership change the engine because they said they were not responsible even though there was 100% evidence they caused it. They were changing the engine out and busted the windshield taking off the hood then laid the hood on top of the car scratching the paint and putting dents in the top of the car from the hood. They refused to fix anything but the motor and tried to make her pay for everything else. Needless to say her lawyer made them buy the car back and she went to a total different brand of vehicle.
The dealership is at fault for the insuring of its drivers. It was in the possession of the dealership at the time of the accident. There insurance should pay or sue Allstate for damages. Well that is unless the dealer is covered by Allstate. Mandatory insurance sure is good for insurance companies. She should be able to sue the dealer and be awarded triple damages.
@Eli Rodriguez-Torres this isn't about correcting a mistake, it's about correcting an attitude. The other driver had insurance and that company declined. She should be compensated by the insurance company for all damages including stress. The dealership should have replaced the vehicle immediately and went after the insurance company. The owner should have zero responsibility in getting a loaner and eventually a new car. The stress of the situation on the owner should be well compensated. Fines aren't put in place to only compensate for financial loss. It's to retaliate against the actions to hopefully correct future bad behavior.
@Eli Rodriguez-Torres although I said she should, the courts recognize emotional distress as a type of damage that can be recovered through a civil lawsuit. This means you can sue someone for emotional trauma or distress if you can provide evidence to support your claims.
What absolutely needs to happen is she needs to sue the other driver and make him deal with Allstate and it will be resolved quickly. I agree the Ford Dealership isn’t liable. Insurance is for the purchaser and you do not have to deal with the other person’s insurance, sue the hell out of them.
Sure the customer’s easiest way to resolve this is by filing a claim to her insurance company. She will be deemed not at fault & the at fault driver will be made to pay for the damages.
But there really needs to be additional road testing insurance Dealerships must have to cover such accidents.
AVOID THIS DEALER!!
They screwed me too.
Tomball Fords theme; appointments aren't really appointments. If there's a problem; it's your/someone elses fault. Thanks for buying a vehicle. Now get bent!
Service department is terrible, car checks are terrible. Believe me I've seen it first hand.
Another situation of the consumer being left holding the bag after doing EVERYTHING they were asked and supposed to do. It just isn't right!
THATS THE PRICE OF LIVING THE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH BABY
@@Jonathan-du8fs 😂
@@Jonathan-du8fs 🤔That’s a very interesting take on it.🤷🏾♂️
To A22DNAL: This is how these slick and astute companies deal and orchestrate ambiguities and loopholes that even attorneys find difficult trying to drive a camel through a needle's eye.
@@eddyvideostar True. And it’s sad. And I’m sick of it. These companies continue to rip the consumer off and they have zero repercussions! It’s frustrating! Exactly why I don’t deal with several companies B/C of their lack of pro-consumer policies.
Seems to me that since the car was in the dealer's hands and their employee was driving it, they should be liable.
Yup.
That's how liability works... There is no way even an average lawyer wouldn't tear this to shreds.
Oh, I see why, its the lets go after our local Houston car dealer, while out of state corporate insurance pigs refuse to pay out a claim that is their responsibility, mentality!
Are you a paid shill for All-State insurance?
@@nexxusty LMAO! YOU HAVE ZERO LEGAL EXPERIENCE nor education, but hey, you know a winning case when you see one. LOL
@@dezznutz3743 You wouldn't be so cavalier and sarcastic if this happened to your car.
So if you had borrowed a friends car and had a wreck, but was not your fault would you buy them a new car?
The insurance can pay 100% dont be fooled folks. If it says "At Fault" in the police report, then the driver is responsible for the accident. Do not do a report a claim if you're not at fault. That claim could slightly raise your policy when it's up for renewal
So who's insurance was the mechanic driving on? Not the customers surely?
Dealership so the dealership property insurance needs to pay
Generally, the car's insurance goes with the car regardless of who is driving. In this case, her insurance pays, then goes after the dealership to recover.
That contributory negligence crap is bulls××t!
My father is a mechanic and I wish I knew the answer to this question. He's said in the past that mechanics are supposed to be liable for what happens to the car. A quick Google search shows that there is indeed liability insurance for car mechanics. Assuming the dealership has something like that, the only thing I could think of is maybe while auto insurance in that state operates on a proportional fault bases that the mechanic's liability insurance does not? So when the other driver in this incident was found at 70% fault, the Mechanic's liability insurance sees the incident as 100% NOT the mechanics fault?
@@bgm769-g2k Correct. The other driver who hit the women's car was at fault. Therefore, the other driver needs to pay up. However, insurance companies don't like to shell out cash. I wonder what the police report says?
@@juicyfruit6311 if this happened on the dealership lot then there must be video surveillance footage of the collision.
They have to pay. Period.
Get a lawyer, they're paying, simple as that.
Wasn’t the companies fault the mechanic driving got hit by another car but the company insurance should be dealing with the person that hit the mechanic driving insurance and the company should be taking care of their client they did offer a rental car but the client should have to do nothing she wasn’t driving
They will but it will take a very long time. Easier if she just has her insurance pay and then years later her insurance will refund her deductible because her insurance then will battle them to get the money back. And insurance companies are better at getting their money back vs you fighting alone.
@@ryans413 The mechanic ran into the other car because the other car unexpectedly turned in front of him.
@@ryans413 Wrong company should have insurance for their employees driving other peoples cars.
Sue for the lawyers cost included.
I don't get it. Why did the service person drive the car out of the lot for a mere oil change?
Lunch run.
@@Ashleenaccarato you dont need to drive a car to warm it up
@@Ashleenaccarato I use to be a lube tech. There is absolutely no need to warm up the vehicle engine during an oil change.
Said “other warranty work” also so that may have required a test drive.
Warranty work could have been a new suspension component or tune to the computer that requires a drive. It could have been any number of things.
Insurance companies need to brought to heel. They are completely out of control, corrupt, and overpowered.
When you leave your car at a dealership , write down the mileage it shouldn’t be more than 30 miles more from drop off to pick up. Why are people just now realizing that dealerships drive people car off the lot to do a lot of stuff, even go home in people car, use it for the weekend. Especially if they have it for over a week , you really think it’s just sitting there?
They should not be taking anyone's cars off the lot unless absolutely necessary.
Great idea
@@taylorbug9 Very true , but trust me they do it all the time, if your car is at a dealership for longer than a week they driving it around, most drive the used cars that they try to sell everyday that’s parked in the front home . 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@Del Taco lol true, have you ever seen the video of the man caught on the dash cam driving around the guys SRT ?
Some repairs require driving in order to be considered successful. My husband just put new brakes on our van and he had to drive it in order to confirm everything was fully functional. Considering that it was warranty work, it was likely mandatory for the mechanic to drive it before giving it back to the owner or they could be held legally liable for any potential issues.
How is the dealership not responsible? Laws made by them, for them.
Did you even watch the video? It's clearly Allstates issue. Granted the dealer isn't being very helpful but fault is clearly on the driver that caused the accident. Allstate is just trying to get out of paying.
The dealership isn't at fault. This happened on a public roadway. It doesn't matter if an employee was driving.
@@Hank_Chill
It absolutely does matter. Car accidents are not black and white. They are the result of the actions of two individuals, sometimes more. Not that I'm defending Allstate but if the Ford employee was actually speeding and not paying attention, they contributed to the accident and should be at fault.
@@NickFrom1228 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Hank_Chill The employee is part of the Dealer and it doesn't matter if it was on public or private property. The dealer took the property out to public road. The Dealer has insurance which should of covered partial which is stated in the clip bc the Dealer was not at fault causing the accidental damages.
I would never buy a car from Tom Ball Ford after hearing this .
TOTALLY AGREE. And am I missing something? Why was he driving her vehicle on a road to begin with? Hell I live in FL, we don't even get out of our vehicles. When we get our oil changed. He should have only been driving it from the parking space to the garage & back to the parking space.
They gave her a rental for 3 weeks AND battled the insurance company for her. This has nothing to do with them. The driver of the insurance company that caused the accident should be paying.
@@April42046 And what about when you get warranty work? Should they test drive it first, or just give it to you and cross their fingers?
Never trust a dealership. Ever
You're gonna need an oil change
Later: "Yeah, you're gonna need a new car"🙃
Just give the lady a new Escape
But she has clean oil so there is that.
Auto Nation runs these conglomerate dealerships.
LMAO
That’s pretty much exactly how the conversation went when they called me that afternoon to tell me 😂
Lesson to be learned: Never ever take your car to Tomball Ford 🤔
NEVER buy a vehicle from Tomball Ford either
I've owned a bodyshop for 30 yrs. Most reputable insurance companies will cover it with forgiveness for her and will go after the partys at fault.
Preach,enlightening for those of us in the need to know
Forgiveness is out of question here as it's not at all her fault. It has to be 100% with one who is at fault.
So the dealership owes her a new exact same car. Or get sued!
SOME OF THESE COMPANIES WITH THEIR ENTITLEMENT AND LACK OF EMPATHY IS JARRING. THE LEAST THE DEALERSHIP CAN DO IS SUPPLY HER WITH A CAR UNTIL SHE GETS HER SITUATION IS SETTLED. THE INCIDENT DID HAPPEN WHILE AN EMPLOYEE WAS BEHIND HER WHEEL WITHOUT PERMISSION. THE EMPLOYEE HAD NO REASON DRIVING HER CAR FOR AN OIL CHANGE ANYWAY.
he has to bring it into the garage from where she left it, the car wont get there by magic
@@nahshanyahudah2261 HE HAD AN ACCIDENT ON THE STREET, OUTSIDE OF THE BUSINESS.
@@tyriciankelly9185 Yes you are correct my bad Miss but you ain't gotta yell at me ;)
Exactly!
@@nahshanyahudah2261 STFU and get in the corner
I just messaged the dealership and asked if I could bring my car in to be wrecked. Maybe everyone should do the same.
ROTFLMAO!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol.
lol imma give em a call sometime
Well, that's going to cost Tomball Ford quite a bit of business.
I doubt it..... there is always people who will stick with that kind of as$holes, even when it has been shown they were at fault, just because it makes them feel different from the rest of us.!
@@macondo0143 Plus the accident wasn't their fault, and that is the dealership is battling the other driver's insurance company over. They also gave the owner a free rental while they were doing that.
If you rented a car and somebody hits you, then are you gonna pay for it? Or would you expect the insurance company of the other driver to?
@@SethPortland if I rented a car, someone stole the keys without my permission and used it in a way that I had not authorized them to, resulting in a crash and complete damage then yes... I would 100% hold them accountable.
If you accidentally burn a house down while breaking and entering it's not an "accident" it's arson.
@UCtEvrFhXj401SUFY-TDYGBg let's see, I left my car to you to do repairs and YOUR employees crashed my car,then you "gave me" a "free rental" (you literally didn't, the insurance did and you take it from my payments) for less time than it is needed because you cannot accept the fault that was assigned to you and screwed me in the process, and still somehow want me to feel grateful. .. yeah someone is wrong here
@@SethPortland u sound so stupid. I don’t even wanna elaborate on this with the amount of stupidity that just came from your comment.
I think that they should go after the mechanic's personal auto insurance policy, because he was the one driving it. Then his insurance can go after the business insurance for reimbursement. The company is required to have insurance for instances like these, because for diagnosing purposes the mechanic is required to drive the vehicle. The business owner should have gone out of his way to rectify the situation for the customer no matter what the cost. The business owner should know better than to treat his customers like this and should be ashamed of himself. Shame on that selfish b@stard.
That's one stealership to avoid at all costs.
Business suicide for that dealership. I imagine the other dealers in the area will advertise "Johnson Ford, we don't joyride in our customers vehicles!"
SOME WARRANTY CLAIMS & RECALL SERVICES REQUIRE POST-SERVICE TEST DRIVES. THEY WERE NOT "JOYRIDING"
@@joeyking8756 if all it is is a oil change there is no reason to be test driving.
@@Mark-jd1jx it said oil change and warranty work
I was thinking the same thing.
@@joeyking8756 Does not matter, perception is all that matters in business.
It sounds to me like the dealership is responsible for 30% of the damage. I would be walking the sidewalk in front of the dealership with a sign sayin "don't buy a car here, ask me why". Absolutely nothing they can do about it.
If they can’t go after the dealership, I’d just go after the mechanic who was driving the vehicle.
@@sNxUCExhAVOk I doubt she would get far suing the mechanic. Most people live paycheck to paycheck & will file bankruptcy to avoid paying for any claim. Her best bet is to go through her own insurance company & avoid further headaches.
@@margaritareyes7982 30% of the value of that car probably isn't enough for a bankruptcy, unless that mechanic has other debts.
I dropped my car off at my Dealership for service, my wife picked me up as the car would be there until the afternoon, just before picking it up we stopped at the local Diner and there was my Car in their Parking lot, I asked my wife if she had my spare keys on her and she gave them to me, I got in my car and we drove back to the Dealership and I went to the Service Manager and said to him I am taking my car, you need to go get whoever was Driving my Car. I told them that was not a Test Drive after Servicing my Car, that was unauthorized use of my car. They gave me 2 years of free Service for both of my Cars.