Air Cooling is Dead. - Tech News March 24
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- Air Cooling is Dead. - Tech News March 24
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In this week's Tech News update, NVIDIA announced Blackwell AI GPUs at GTC, AMD announced FSR 3.1 and Strix Point APUs, and Intel needed a bit more time to get their Ohio fab up and running... a couple years more. Oh and Thermalright has a $60 AIO CPU cooler. Enjoy!
$54-$59 Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 (Amazon): geni.us/rNhNu
► TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Welcome to Paul’s Tech News - March 24, 2024
1:33 NVIDIA Announces Blackwell GPUs and lots of AI stuff at GTC 2024
4:53 AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024 - less fuzziness and flickering
6:06 AMD Unveils ‘Strix Point’ CPUs at Beijing AI PC Innovation Summit
7:44 Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 AIO Cooler Dominates for $60
TECH BRIEFS
9:55 RX 7900 XTX is now $900
10:40 Intel pushes launch date of Ohio fab from 2025 to 2027 (or 2028)
11:19 RIP Hackintosh Builds
12:10 New “GoFetch” attack on Apple Silicon CPUs can steal crypto keys
► LINKS
NVIDIA Announces Blackwell GPUs and lots of AI stuff at GTC 2024
digiday.com/media/from-gtc-an...
ua-cam.com/users/liveY2F8yisiS6E
www.pcgamer.com/hardware/grap...
arstechnica.com/information-t...
www.tomshardware.com/pc-compo...
wccftech.com/nvidia-fully-ena...
www.tomshardware.com/tech-ind...
AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024 - less fuzziness and flickering
www.anandtech.com/show/21317/...
www.pcgamer.com/hardware/amd-...
community.amd.com/t5/gaming/a...
AMD Unveils ‘Strix Point’ CPUs due later in 2024 at Beijing AI PC Innovation Summit
www.tomshardware.com/pc-compo...
videocardz.com/newz/amd-prepa...
Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 AIO Cooler Dominates for $60
wccftech.com/review/thermalri...
Thermalright Frozen Edge 360 (Amazon): geni.us/2KGkDb / geni.us/rNhNu
TECH BRIEFS
RX 7900 XTX is now $900
videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeo...
www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-...
www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-...
Intel pushes launch date of Ohio fab from 2025 to 2027 (or 2028)
www.tomshardware.com/tech-ind...
RIP Hackintosh Builds
www.techradar.com/computing/m...
New “GoFetch” attack on Apple Silicon CPUs can steal crypto keys
www.bleepingcomputer.com/news...
www.securityweek.com/new-gofe...
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TY for watching my video everyone!
Correction: Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart (for Windows) has been out since last year, the FSR 3.1 support is coming in an update.
Thanks to those who pointed that out in the comments 👍
and my title isn't clickbait it's self-referential satire
Paul the sideburns are getting Dangerously close to becoming a helmet strap dude...Be careful there
It's obviously satire. BTW, some of us use Linux, not Windows. Nevertheless, welcome former Hackintosh users !
Everything is dead. It’s all over.
Next title: Passive cooling ded
@@geo4926I’ve been using Linux for well over a decade. Having said that, you’ll have to pry my ryzentosh out of my cold, dead, hands! 😊
Last video I watched was on Water Cooling is Dead...
everything is dead
Can confirm, am ded
@@Trampoukosss
LN2 for the win
We are now going to have a sliding slot in our PC where we put dry ice in and freeze our PC's during periods of high heat exhaust.
Just trying to keep you on your toes
Triple AAA games seem to be dead too.
For the past decade
Exactly. No point in building expense rigs when games aren't even coming out optimized. Just get a console.
Luckily we have now quadruple A games. lol
@@xibeon Oh yeah Quadruple A, a new LOW for games 🤣
Triple AAA, also known effectionately as nonuple A's, aren't even invented yeat. They've only made it to quad A, but I'm sure Ubi, Warner, EA, and a few others are really hoping to have at least a quintuble ready by 2030. With the return of crypto, I'm sure that one will have NFT everything available from its live service premium currency in-game store.
Never going to stop using air cooling.
I had a liquid cooler two years ago and it leaked. I decided to have my builds with a air cooler.
Never going to have a air cooled GPU ever again. Always water.
@thegamingwolf8755 that's exactly why I'll never use water lmao
Glad to see Thermalright shaking-up up the AIO market as they did with air coolers. Go Thermalright!
I bought one of their white Notte 240 AIOs last year for $54 and while it's only cooling a 13500, it's been great.
@@deathVIAavatarhow is the temps compared to air is it significant? I want to switch but seems like not that convenient compared to air cooling with not much difference since I'm running 7600x.
literally just bought a thermalright frozen magic 360 v2 yesterday, overclocked 7600 to 5.2 all core and it sits at 65* (hadnt let the water warm up properly yet)
I bought their new evo single tower cooler for my 7600x and the things a beast. Very quiet and chip hits 5.5ghz with pbo enabled and no other tweaks. And usually hovers around 60c at load
@@samuelvanlane 5.5? did you undervolt it? my mobo won’t let me increase PBO by more than 200mhz to 300mhz boost total, for 5.4ghz single core and 5.2 all core..
edit: nvm you’ve got the x variant lmao
That Tux popping up just as Paul was "welcoming" Hackintosh users back to Windows was brilliant. I know it's not mainstream, but there are a lot of people using Linux now instead of windows. Me included.
Linux is in a far better place now than it was just a few years ago. Useability and reliability is better than ever. I just wish Ableton would release a desktop Linux version of Live... 🙄
@@blakecasimir I agree. I've seen massive improvements in the past 6-7 years (has it been that long?? 😲 It might even be 8 years, I started on Mint 17.3 I think) that I've been using it. It was a culture shock moving over, but i'm glad I did it. It's not been without its problems, but I've resolved most of them over time.
I like dabbling in music too, and it is an area where Linux does still lack a bit. But there are some decent progs for it. I have Reaper installed, which is a good bit of software, but one I've not got to grips with yet. The only DAW I've really played with was Cubase 5, which a friend of mine used for years to build tracks, but I've not had that working on Linux. I only dabble now and again, i'm not a great musician, usually single finger on the keys, or cowboy chords on the guitar. that's my limit. I'd love a decent easy-to-use-for-a-beginner software audio looper, so I could really faff about and build stuff playing parts individually.
But yeah, Linux is reliable, and getting better by the day. I'm on Mint 20.3 Cinnamon DE at the min, I should really upgrade to the latest one, but I'd hate to break it while it's all working just now. It does what I need it to do just now, runs my games, and general browsing/email, Arduino programming, android stuff, Software defined radio, music dabbling. It does all I need.
@@blakecasimirThere are several Lutris install scripts for different versions of Ableton (including Live 10 & 11) if you use Lutris inside Linux! And, since you'd be using windows version inside Linux, you wouldn't have any licensing issues! Use a spare SSD/buy one cheap to test it out!
Seems kind of a silly take to me, and that’s said as someone who has a Hackintosh, a custom-built dual-boot Windows and Linux PC, AND a legit Mac on my desk right now. Us Hackintosh users have known since Apple Silicon was announced that the writing was on the wall, and no sensible person was ever that mad about it-what we were doing was always completely outside anything Apple has ever supported, and they were never under any obligation to us. We’ve been breaking the EULA for macOS every day we’ve been running it. I’ll continue to use macOS as my main everyday operating system on Apple hardware, I’ll continue to use Windows as my gaming OS, and I’ll continue to use Linux for experimenting and learning about server stuff for my work. Any sensible technology enthusiast in 2024 is above petty platform squabbling. Use what you like or don’t, but skip on the condescension. No need for it.
I too have made the full switch to Linux. I still have it installed on a second drive in my main PC but mint is the main OS now and i am running fedora on my framework 16 now.
Could you make next headline: liquid cooling is dead again. That would be hilarious.😁
Stupid clickbait video's....
@@lucasremnot the correct use of an apostrophe
@@sgtiz4399 it's a contraction of a yoda-esque complaint about clickbait: stupid clickbait video is ;P
"Thermalright launches a new Peerless Assassin tower cooler for 30 bucks, herein killing it's own recent attempt at reviving watercooling just last week"
Having gone through 3 AIOs, 2 from Corsaire and 1 from NZXT, air cooling will never die as long as pumps fail in 1-2 years on the reg.
You do realise that aios have a 5-6 yr warranty right? Were you mounting the radiator below the pump and killing it yourself ?
That's one of the reasons why I've stuck with air cooling. It does take maintenance (dust removal every couple of years), but you can get many years out of an Air cooler, and if a fan fails, you just have a fan to replace. With AIO's, if it fails, you're replacing the whole thing at a far greater cost.
Same Had 2 high end NZXT Krakens fail, Never again with all this AIO BS, Air cooling all the way.
@@ShaneMcGrath. You chose the wrong brand, NZXT isn't about performance or reliability; they are known for looks mostly. Get Arctic or EK next time.
Never experienced any problems with my corsair or coolermaster AiO's. Also don't know anyone that has had any problems with them so pumps failing in 1-2 years isn't on the reg. I'd say u were either really unlucky, it was installer error or u didn't clean the dust from the radiator periodically and it was overheating.
Ratchet and clank is already out.
Its just an update
well I feel stupid for missing that 😅 thank you for the heads up though
@@paulshardware oh I thought that was a joke 😂😂😂
You'll drag my air cooling away from my cold dead fingers.
Nah nah. This isn't anti air cooling. In fact this is price competition, which should be better for us the consumer wether you use air cooling or AIOs
cold dead bleeding fingers. i use aio as they are substantially less of a giant pain in the ass to install.
@@spacechannelfiveryou have hands like Andre the giant and/or you’re choosing extremely shitty coolers
@@spacechannelfiver
That's GOOD, because on average you'll install an AIO more than an air cooler. Seriously though, I can't really agree with that. It really depends on the AIO and air cooler models you have, and the case you're trying to install in. A lot of air coolers are pretty damn easy to install.
@@pendulum1997 nah mate I’m just older than you and don’t have the motor control I used to have
Everybody remember that AIO can leak, and should be thoroughly tested before being installed. Don't make the mistake of blindly expecting it to never leak, water finds a way.
Yes, it does!! I have done many (>100) hydro tests at my workplace [government shipyard] over the years.
How would advise a newbie on how to thoroughly test an AIO?
Water always finds its Lenovo. But it flies off an HDD at 10 000 RPM, checkmate globe.
@@MystiqWisdom plug it in have the pump run on full for a few days with something that would show if it got wet under it during your test ... like newspaper.
@112Famine who has newspaper??? I mean, I am old! We pay for a newspaper that doesn't get delivered, but it gives us access to the online site for it.
Just kidding. I'm throwing up my first comments from my head.
The Linux penguin creep up killed me 😂
Just swapped my watercooler for very small and silent air cooler that costed me 1/5 of the price and consumes 1/6 of the energy. CPU temperature is the same and the noise is much much lower.
I didn't know air cooling was even sick. Rip.
It's not!
I wouldn't go back to AIO's ever again, Had 2 high end one's fail, AIr cooling FTW don't care my cpu runs 10c hotter.
@@ShaneMcGrath.got a dark rock pro keeping my X3D cool. I dont feel scared of it failing or getting dirty liquid. Peace of mind! ❤
It really was an ol' chunk of coal.
@@ShaneMcGrath.yep when your hear that crackling noise, you know your f**ked. Im good with my air cooler.
I've got a total air-cooling setup right now with a 5800X/RTX 3090. The beautiful metal heatsinks will never die out, and will last a hundred years, as 10 AIOs will wear out and break down and have to be replaced.
I used to be all about air coolers, but these days, you can get a like really decent AIO for not much more money, and while temps aren't substantially different, the AIOs _are_ quieter.
I used to be all about AIO now I never buy one again after investing in an all Noctua build ;) And it's quieter then my friends AIO beleive it or not :P
Even a decent liquid cooler is still going to cause leaking issues.
Thanks Paul and Dave.
oh no, I just upgraded to an AK620. I didnt know, I was supposed to buy a AIO...
Who said you did?
Its my b-day, I have coffee, family still asleep and now Paul with the tech news. Good start on the personal new year.
Peace
I live in Arizona where the ambient temperature can get up to 117F. I've been considering liquid cooling simply because it might be more effective when AC is having a difficult time keeping up with the heat here.
I use a liquid cooler because I live in an even hotter place and air cooling was just not enough.
I dont live in a hot place, and i use only AIO's. There is no way i throw in a big ugly chunk aircooler in a showcase pc. Aesthetics matters.
The air conditioner is going to have the same amount of hard time. You are still pumping hundreds of watts of heat into the house/room that the air conditioner will have to deal with. Water and air are just transfer mediums. The heat still has to go somewhere.
@@Audiosan79 If aesthetics matter, why are you using an ugly AIO with soft tubes just flopping wherever they please? AIOs are the worst for aesthetics. With a custom loop you can do hard tubing, you can get nice looking air coolers, but AIOs are always ugly because of the soft tubing.
Buy some intake filters and put your computer outside in the shade. Your AC is having a hard time cooling down all the heat it generates anyway. If you don’t already, go outside and blow out the AC condenser. It’s probably covered in dust.
Blasphemy... Blasphemy I say! Air cooling will never die! ***me huffing and puffing whilst watching the video***
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Another great intro. Thanks again Joe and Paul for all you do to bring us the tech news!
Thanks Paul and Joe
Great post . Love the tech updates!
Every single aio I’ve used has failed. Either gunk or pump failure, then complete shutdown until I was silly enough to either rma and wait weeks, or run to the store and buy another failure point.
Ever since I went back to air, I’ve had zero issues.
Never again aio, never again.
I got one just to try, thermals weren't impressive compared to dual tower and yes it failed on me after 2 years. I'll add more "e-waste" to the list if issues you already mentioned.
I had basically the same experience with Corsair and I my second one was a deepcool? Then I switched to Arctic's first gen Liquid Freezer, had that running perfect for ~6 years until I upgraded to a bigger Liquid Freezer III just recently which has been fine so far. The two Liquid Freezer IIs I also put in builds for friends that I had to ship have also been flawless. So I think it's less that AIOs are junk, and more that the cheapy mass manufactured OEM white label parts using ones are. Arctic has been flawless for me, same with EK for a few people I know.
Water has 4x the thermal capacity of air, but you are still transferring the heat to the air at the end... so, air cooling dying is never going to happen, unless you're in deep space. The 2 main things that are important are how much surface you have to work with (larger is better) and how hot you can get that surface (hotter things release heat more quickly). These 2 things work against each other (or "balance out" is a better term). You're paying for a different way to transfer heat (a buffer), not a better way.
Thank u Paul
I dislike how fans are attached to popular air coolers.
6:11 had me rolling 😂 "a bit further of a drive"
Air cooling NUUUUUUU. Pour some water out for it..... Wait a minute! Hope you have been well Paul :)
"Though a bit further of a drive."
I nearly spit out my coffee laughing. Thanks.
Awesome entertaining and informative series. Thanks for all your hard work, I look forward to the next, and the next …..
Can't wait for the news sequals.
"Watercooling is Hot!"
"Air cooling is Cool!"
"New Watercooler leaks!"
"New Air cooler blows!"
What will be the price of repair/damage controll when the water cooling system leaks? Be it by design flaws or simple maintenance by technicians?
12:07 The Tux in the background made me almost spill my coffee. Well played.
Where did you get your Arc light from?
Paul if your liquid cooler starts rattling try dismounting the fans and holding them horizontally above the pump and shaking them remounting them with inlet and outlet on the bottom instead of the top worked for me when system started overheating as indicated by cooler cam. Gets bubbles away from pump
Paul - "Call me crazy..."
Joe - "Everyone did!"
Dudes..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! My girl and I both snurted in unison!
Great Tech News/Tech Underwear installment Paul, and great edit Joe! Super fun and upbeat in appearance, and delivery!
12:07 - the Tux is night, ladies and gentlemen 😁! I really appreciate such a nice 🐧 "appearance" on this show.
As always: thank you, Paul 😉👍!
Watercooling is more alive than ever with 13900k and 14900k unfortunately you need Power Plant level cooling to pull it off 👀
I'm an audio engineer/musician, so gaming PCs are perfect for audio production after you crank up the RAM, & I use both my PCs as dual purpose w/the 4080 also doing visual creation/editing work as well. I have no choice but to go with water-cooling since it's always the most quiet option.
I'd never want a dual tower cooler hanging from my socket. I already had a single big one from Thermalright on socket 775 and it was causing the PC not to boot too frequently.
It is an extradordinary amount of weight on a socket.
Single tower, aluminum based 92mm coolers seem to be ok and fine for most PCs. More than that, it may be better to go WC AIO.
Well, if we dont move away from ATX at least. That would allow for other cool solutions for tower coolers.
For an air cooler to actually damage the motherboard is quite rare (I've actually had it happen on a streaming rig that got transported a lot) but it is one of the things to take into account to suit your use case for any build.
@@malphadour for boards with large back plates, like AMD 939/AM2/3 it will probably hold.
Some are also plastic, others have metal reinforcement, also much variation there.
For Intel it is so small, that unless the manufacturer supplies a proper backplate, I think there is a very real chance the socket breaks over time from the stress.
...I couldve sworn osx86 drivers were in the darwin kernal. Does OSX block kernal drivers from running within their desktop environment?
March went by so fast.
ID-Cooling Frost Flow II 240 is $50, and the 280mm is $57 on Amazon right now.
how many cores would require an AIO?
My CoolerMaster Nepton 240 mm water cooler finally died after 9 years! I never needed the AIO, but I had a few extra bucks back in 2015 when I purchased it for my 4790K. I have plenty of room in my case and decided to go with the Thermaltake Phantom - got a Used - almost new on Amazon for $33.57. Someone bought it and I'm sure it didn't fit in their case. It was brand new. Very happy with air cooling. I knew my AIO was on life support given how old it was. It's like putting off replacing a timing belt in your engine. Glad I was home when it died. No noise, not a sound, just saw my temps double and then triple and checked by bios and saw no AIO pump RPM's.
0:21 whats that keyboard on his desk ?
If your GPU can hit your monitor refresh easily in the games you play, is there any need to use FSR? I've tried it and couldn't see much difference apart from a benchmark showing it was running at a lower resolution. 🤷♂🤷♂
FSR like DLSS is just for increasing performance. So if you are already hitting your limit of course you don't need it.
I will say, the main thing that's kept me on the AIO train is the aesthetics. For me personally, I just like the more open appearance over air coolers. I'm guessing that's also one of the primary reasons people still go for AIOs over air coolers.
Honestly, that price point is actually quite alluring for an AIO. But I'm still air cooling master race because of longevity and reparability.
lol the subtitles at the very start say "arousing intro music" XD
Cooler Master did a run for a while of $49.99 240mm AIOs. I built a Xeon X5675 system using it a long time ago. Works grest still! Glad to see the trend return, and with bigger better AIOs!
Great for the US market I guess. Here in Malaysia the thermalright cooler goes for about 100USD when converted.
paul you're describing mean reversion! If your hotdog stand is killing it with high margins and high ROIC, then competitors enter to drive down both of those until you arrive back at the mean.
I have the Thermalright 240 AIO, it works great!
No RGB garbage, no software, just cooling.
Absolutely loved the intro. ❤
lol... the first words on my screen... "Arousing Intro Music" LOL..
Wonderful wording you've got there haha 🤣
Thanks Paul.
My current build started with a 360mm AIO. It lasted 3 months before the pump died. My trusty 9 year old tower cooler went back in. Didn't even bother trying to warranty the AIO.
That dandruff shot had me wretching
My checking account is dead. Like the symmetry, more moved in look. Nice Paul
I highly suggest having Closed Captions on for the occasional chuckle
I really liked watching Tux rising up slowly in the corner as you were welcoming ex-Hackintosh users to the party. :)
Phantom 12 works great with my 7800x3d. No need for liquid cooling unless your over clocking for no reason.
really want to see comparisons between this thermalright AIO and the new Arctic Liquid Freezer 3.
I keep wondering if there is something going on in the background when it comes to Thermalright.
Finding good reviews of their aircoolers is suuper easy. Finding good reviews/tests of their multitude of AIOs is extremely hard.
So, with FSR 3.1 and an 8700 with 780M graphics is a graphics card required, at all, for 1080p gaming?
Well, I guess heat pipes use small amounts of water, so sure...
Linux Penguin cameo was classic.
“Fab faster” 😂
Wonder why arctic aio's are missing from the thermalright charts.
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO.. 10 c lower temperature was extremely welcomed thank you for the information (easy install but does not come with amd motherboard back plate
Paul, your tech news are the best news anyone could ask for, it has humor, good commentary and validity, please dont change, these news make my day.
Put the Frozen Edge into a build I just made to sell and it is awesome for the price. Having functional, good looking components for this price is great
Dear Paul, please confirm the regular time for Tech News, if you'd be so kind, it seems to be nearly 6pm AEDT/5pm AEST on Sundays, onya Paul :)
I try to post as early as I can on Sunday (for me), which is 12AM PT or a little after
Tech news normally drops around 0200 Central Time, which would be 0800 GMT, Sunday morning. Unless Paul skips a week or two, then it's not gonna drop that day
LETS TRY EARLY MORNING SO THE VIDEO`S are UP ALL DAY FOR THSOE THAT ARE AWAKENING FOR THE DAY , capps . i think thats pretty dam thoughtfull myself , i would think he is loading video for the day coming = its 3.36 am here atm east coast usa . and its been up about 30 to 35 minutes - so equation says 3 am est , for me , bujt i think he is loading up for the day ahead . although that is My OP , , ,
Noctua D15 is still good for any am5. Watercooling is necessary for top intels but it’s degrades a lot in 1,5-2 years of use and makes more noice. Use good airflow cases and noctua d15, dont use crazy 300+ watt intels. 7800x3d is best for gaming and it working completely fine with decent air cooling
Watercooling does not make more noice. It is also a lot quieter. And it does not degrade in 1 to 2 years unless you buy a cheap skank one. Stop talking rubbish. As to waht to get, well thats about the choice of what can you afford, what do you need and what do you want. No need to make up stories about which is better or worse.
@@malphadour - "And it does not degrade in 1 to 2 years unless you buy a cheap skank one." Which is what most people are going to do. The budget segment of any market is where most of the sales are. And AIO's are impractical for pretty much anything other than high-end Intel's because even a cheaper decent $30 air cooler can maintain good temps while being quiet on most CPUs, and you don't have the risk of an AIO failing and leaking all over your components.
And I can already hear you: "That's so rare and I've never had that happen before" Yeah, maybe, but the odds of it happening aren't 0 and it'll only take once to convince you to never do it again.
@@Kryptic1046 Most people are not buying cheap ones, they are buying ones with 5 year plus guarantees. I do this for a living, i've installed hundreds of them with one failure in the last 6 or 7 years. Yes they can fail, is it common, no not at all. In fact ive had more air cooler fan fails from clients than AIO failures. So please stop buying into the myth that AIO = almost guaranteed failure, If an AIO isn't for you for budgetry, or aesthetic, or peace of mind reasons then don't get one, but also don't make up stories to argue against them.
@@malphadour - Where did I say "AIO = almost guaranteed failure"? You're addressing arguments I never made. I'm not making up stories, you're making up things I never even said. I admitted it was rare for an AIO to leak, but I said it only takes once for you to regret it. I used to use AIO's almost exclusively. Some worked great, others had noisy pumps and needed consistent repositioning of the case to keep air out of the system. And my last one, a BeQuiet, lasted all of a year and a half before I just decided to switch to air coolers and be done with it.
AIO's have their place in the market, but having extensive experience with both AIO's and air coolers over the years, air coolers require less maintenance, there's 0 risk involved with them, and the tech and prices of them have gotten so good that unless I had some fire-breathing 300w CPU, I see no real reason to mess with them over an air cooler with similar performance.
10:28 you almost make it impossible to not pick up the 7900 XTX saying that, lol
I shall never give up my NHD-15!!
Could you just use a wired connection for the Hackintosh?
Can we get a z version of a cpu with the ai bit removed, like the f part with no gpu? 🤔
I need to get some thermal compound:-/🤦🏻♂️
I use a different 360 aio from thermalright. runs quiet and cool!
Thermalright Frozen Prism360 White ARGB is $52.90 right now on Amazon. I have this cooler on my 14700K and it dissipates up to 330W. I've had it running since last June. Crazy price to performance. Thermalright is killing it!
hey there, how long since you have the AIO? Is it still good?
Also did you set a custom curve? on the pump and radiator fans?
I use Frost Spirit with 13900k. Render and encode videos without any problems with air cooler.
Just set PL2 250 watts.
@@jeremyg2236 yeah still running really well for 9 months now at a constant 90% pump speed and a custom fan curve that ramps up with temps. I have my PC on 24/7 and its been really solid.
@@jeremyg2236 been using it for 9 months now at a constant 90% pump speed and a custom fan curve that ramp up with temps. I have my PC on 24/7 and its been solid!
Paul 3 weeks ago: “Water Cooling is DEAD!”
Also Paul: “Air Cooling is DEAD!”
Passive cooling: Alright my time to shine!
bought one...pump lasted 3 months so went back to assassin. now saving to get all parts for custom loop for cpu/gpu
I have a cheap idcooling frostflow on my 13600k and am very happy with it. I'm sitting at 35 degrees right now and in gaming I occasionally get up to 50. Sometimes. The system has automatic overclocking enabled. I think I hit like 75 or 80 in cinebench, but never that high in real work. An air cooler was hitting tj max and throttling in cinebench.
Oh and the whole system is ultra quiet. I have my fans set up so that all of them use a combined max curve based on the temps of the gpu, cpu and the hottest thing on the motherboard. So all the fans run a bit when anything gets hot, but nothing ever has to run full throttle.
I remember when I first got into custom PCs and CPU OCing, I wanted a Thermalright Silver Arrow so badly! I'm glad they're still making great products at affordable prices!
*I think you meant frame generation being decoupled from fsr 3 - FMF is their proprietary for amd only
54 bucks for a 360 aio is insane!
Ill have a rummage down the back of the sofa.. I might find a spare, rogue $50m down there.. Good tech update guys! Thanks once again 😎🍻
Air cooling > Water cooling - no faff! fit and forget!
The water cooling thing is actually pretty interesting. Because one of the things that I’ve been reading about and listening to inside of the AI data center engineering world is that the wattage demands for a lot of these new high powered ships is exceeding open air cooling solutions. You may or may not know about it. You can read about it. Lots of information is available but in general data center server racks are always air cooled and they can utilize certain systems in order to boost the available ambient air cooling. So you’ll have two systems. One of them is just your typical air conditioning unit which pause the hot air out of the room concentrations through what they call and Isle containment. Another one is what’s called door, exchangers or heat exchangers that are attached to each individual rack just like your computer AIO you have a dedicated water loop and a fan system with the radiator that’s directly attached to the CPU but in this door exchanger, this is only adding a direct radiator to each rack. It’s not on the chip now watch coming out because these new AI ships are demanding such an incredible amount of power, what they’re doing is considering this straight water cooling solution where all the chips are directly water cooled, and then it goes to a centralized building water cooling system. And this is happening because there’s physical limitations of air as a medium to do heat transfers. It’s really cool science because this is the first time that the data center world has done this where effectively we’re starting to see single server racks for a single rack being upwards of 60 to 80,000 W of power. And even more. And this is causing a lot of hiccup because the ambient air cooling solutions don’t work for this kind of heat load.
Water cooling on data centres it not anything new. It has been around for quite a while.
I am waiting for the day when AIO and Air Cooling is Dead video come out. 🤣
is this a dmg control video?
Dam my NZXT AIO is still going strong on my skylake build...... Its been runing every day for 7 years and never failed
i've been using an AIO on my cpu for a couple years and at this point i'm starting to worry that the hoses might somehow fail and destroy my pc. not a nice feeling 😕 i'd rather not have water circulating in it tbh
Water cooling was dead? I and millions of others never got that memo, damn, sorry Paul