This Makes Your CPU FASTER & COOLER 😱 | Budget CPU contact frame for Intel & AMD

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  • @ronalcasid3844
    @ronalcasid3844 Рік тому +353

    Tighten the screws in a X pattern

    • @donloder1
      @donloder1 Рік тому +44

      use impact gun

    • @02honeydew
      @02honeydew Рік тому +17

      ​@@donloder1 lmao that'll be 6 uggaduggahs a corner

    • @TheBURBAN111
      @TheBURBAN111 Рік тому +5

      @@02honeydew This made me cry in laughter haha.

    • @02honeydew
      @02honeydew Рік тому +2

      @@TheBURBAN111 lmao

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal Рік тому

      He doesnt want to.

  • @smoovematix
    @smoovematix Рік тому +334

    It was hotter after you installed it because it was able to draw more wattage. So, that simply means the benchmark was able to also draw more which will, obviously, add heat. So this is good. Really good. Simply put, the added cooling abilities allows to push the cpus output performance. You would only result in cooler temps if there was a way to cap the wattage usage to match that of the test done before you did the install. That would truly show if it lowers temps.

    • @redclaw72666
      @redclaw72666 Рік тому +6

      It can also be useful when overclocking than having motherboard ai or stock marketing junk, manual is a better option to handle better voltages and probably oc to 5.6 to 5.7ghz

    • @bigdog8008
      @bigdog8008 Рік тому +9

      No, this is not completely correct. Yes, it dissipated more power (watts) which is why it ran hotter. *BUT the whole idea of this frame is to keep the CPU cooler.* So this is NOT good. This merely showed that the throttling of the CPU was slightly different between the two tests and the software gave a slight advantage to the aftermarket bracket by allowing it to run slightly hotter. I'm willing to bet that if he ran many tests in both before and after configurations and averaged the results out, there would be little to no difference. The biggest factor by far was the overall thermal setup - actual cooler used plus thermal conductivity of the thermal compound.
      I do agree with the your last part. The only true comparison is to have both tests dissipate the same amount of power and measure the final temperature difference, if any.
      In theory, if this frame was part of the overall cooling frame (e.g. thermal conductive paste between frame and CPU) then the added mass of the new thermal frame would add a tiny bit to the overall heat dissipation. But, then, the original steel bracket would have also added to the overall heat dissipation as well. However, Aluminum makes a better thermal conductor.

    • @DeathStriker88
      @DeathStriker88 Рік тому +16

      ​@@bigdog8008this is an anti-bending correction frame, not an anti-heating frame 😂😂😂

    • @bottoysex1957
      @bottoysex1957 Рік тому

      does it make any difference in gaming ? will u get a higher framerate??

    • @tarkitarker0815
      @tarkitarker0815 Рік тому +1

      @@redclaw72666 manual oc is NOT better on amd, intels do not have a quick response clock gen like ryzen has, so them constantly running at max clock but reduced bus is ok, but amds cant reduze IF clock, which is why a manual oc´d ryzen will chunk power.

  • @TheLordNugget
    @TheLordNugget Рік тому +46

    I've got the Ryzen 7 7700X. I had some weird temperature issues early on. I was just using the standard bracket to lock down the cpu. First couple applications had the cpu hitting the 95 degree mark under any multicore type of load. I saw the AM5 bracket and went with it as it also works as a way of blocking thermal paste from getting to the parts on the pcb. I hadn't even considered the IHS bending. The thing fixed my temps. I definitely recommend that people consider swapping the standard bracket off their AM5 boards.

    • @bdhale34
      @bdhale34 Рік тому +3

      You should probably still not consider the IHS bending, because it's not doing that, if it was nothing short of bending it back flat would fix it. What is happening is the ILM is too long for a single arm ILM to keep equal pressure on both sides of the IHS so it's allowing the chip to sit unevenly in the socket. Which is why these contact frames actually work.

  • @ErnieSesameStreet
    @ErnieSesameStreet Рік тому +8

    There was once I release the lever, it skip off my finger because the strength of the lever is quite strong, the cpu jump up a bit, rest on a few pins and cause the pins to bent. I'm so lucky to bend it back to position. I feel that from now on, the socket should follow this type of design. The spring loaded lever is too strong, there is a chance it can skip off the finger because of the curve in/out way of tightening. The spring is shiny stainless steel that made the surface slippery off the finger of the curve in/out way of tightening and release. Now I always place one hand fingers to stop the rectangle metal from spring out that lead the cpu outward force jumping out while release the lever.

  • @joeyjojojr.shabadoo915
    @joeyjojojr.shabadoo915 Рік тому +64

    The contact frame, aside from providing a secure and even mount for the CPU, also provides *more Aluminum MASS that helps to further bleed heat from being connected to the IHS.*

    • @simonb.8868
      @simonb.8868 Рік тому +2

      Yes but there is no paste in between the IHS and the frame, so the contact is not optimal

    • @pablopervguy4355
      @pablopervguy4355 Рік тому +3

      Yes I have a same theory that the contact frame also functions as an "extended" IHS since its also made of metal

    • @vinyvinycocopuffpassittomenow
      @vinyvinycocopuffpassittomenow 11 місяців тому

      @@simonb.8868depends on you base for the cooler and how you apply the thermal paste or graphite pad.

  • @ABP8214
    @ABP8214 Рік тому +320

    I have this for my system running an 13700k. It's crazy how a little $12 device can make a huge difference in temps and performance.

    • @turks1966
      @turks1966 Рік тому +6

      Same CPU with the same bracket, you are correct on your evaluation.

    • @valensi1988
      @valensi1988 Рік тому +5

      Which temps are you seeing and with what cooler, if you don't mind

    • @manssupar
      @manssupar Рік тому +11

      ​@@valensi1988 decrease like 5-10c

    • @mass-1128
      @mass-1128 Рік тому

      Does i really?

    • @ummerfarooq5383
      @ummerfarooq5383 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mass-1128 it does

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 Рік тому +22

    DO NOT cinch down the screws, two finger tight only and stop when the screws stops turning, make sure all four are equal, gradually tighten opposite corners a bit at a time. If you're worried about the screws backing out get a threadlock stick and apply to the end of the screw (you could use liquid too but the stick is easier)
    Performance of the Thermalright and Thermal Grizzley frames are basically the same except the Thermalright frame is much easier to install. The Thermalright frame sits flush with the MB and the Thermal Grizzley frame floats, with the Thremalright frame you just stop when the screws stop where with the Thermal Grizzley one you have to fiddle with screw tension (ideally use a torque controlled screwdriver).
    If you use acetone to clean the CPU don't get it on the plastic "feet" on the ends of the Thermalright frame it will attack the plastic and the adhesive that is used to attach them to the frame.

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl Рік тому

      no way in hell the thermalgrizzly is the same, precision machining is not possible at the 10 bucks price, also the floating is a must.

    • @Cwronaga216
      @Cwronaga216 Рік тому +2

      ​@@JohnSmith-pn2vlgamers nexus tested and they do perform the same. Thermalright has greater variance in machining precision but not enough to effect thermals

    • @dph9885
      @dph9885 Рік тому +3

      dude wth are doing using acetone anywhere near a motherboard or CPU? even the vapour will depolymerise (i.e. molecularly disintegrate) polycarbonate or ABS. The electrical insulation lamination on PCBs is often PC. There are ABS and PC plastic components across your motherboard and also on the case. Even the shroud on your GPU is made from PC/ABS. You are literally molecularly disintegrating your entire PC. Plus it's flammable, toxic, volatile and a respiratory system irritant.
      Use 99% isopropyl alcohol as used and recommended by the manufacturer.

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Рік тому

      @@Cwronaga216 They made up for that with a better design. In the end they both perform the same.

  • @191yaroslavruban2
    @191yaroslavruban2 Рік тому +8

    Was using default type of the frame for my 12600k and it actually stopped working after ~ 1 year. It occurred my CPU bent A LOT and was way too kind of curvy. So, basically, there was no contact between CPU and the socket. I recommend everybody to purchase this 10$ thing, it will save much more

    • @Raptor_i81
      @Raptor_i81 Рік тому +4

      Does your CPU start working again after installing the bracket ? or you had to buy a new one CPU ?

    • @MaryArts
      @MaryArts 11 місяців тому

      Would like to know too.

  • @occamsrazor1285
    @occamsrazor1285 7 місяців тому

    10:22 Yes, that's perfect.
    Screws and bolts are tightened to a specific torque spec as a mechanical protect against vibration unscrewing or unbolting the fastener. Vibration isn't enough in a PC case to have to worry about that.

  • @RiceNoodlestw
    @RiceNoodlestw Рік тому +37

    its a worthwhile upgrade to mitigate bending in the long term. the stock ilm has been shown to bend the cpu, keep it mounted for years and countless heat cycles it could become permanent. either frame will prevent this. i have the thermalright installed in 13900k, fast and easy install, with a bit more saftey built in over the thermal grizzly frame.

  • @Hasbert1988
    @Hasbert1988 Рік тому +9

    The Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame is manufactured and produced in Germany and it has lower tolerances than the one from Thermalright. I am using the one from Thermalright, because the Thermal Grizzly Contact Frame wasn't available, when i needed it. The Mounting is also slightly different - Gamers Nexus did a good Video about it.
    Edit: I am using an i5 13600k slightly overclocked to 5.4 on the P-Cores, 4.4 on the E-Cores and 4.9 on the Cache with a fixed voltage of 1.26V (equal to stock under load). In my case, i got a 9°C improvement in liquid temperature. The CPU itself was 15°C cooler than before. Testet in Cinebench R23 with a warming up time of 20 minutes and a 30 minute test run - my loop has about 450 to 500ml of coolant and a single 360mm radiator.

    • @donloder1
      @donloder1 Рік тому

      this, availability is a bih most of the times i swear. i can barely get my hands on an arctic aio. had to buy it from an unreviewed item online, glad the seller delivered.
      And so i opted for thermalright as well.

    • @pendrive4real
      @pendrive4real Рік тому +1

      bro i read it as thermal glizzy frame 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Рік тому +3

      The Thermalright frame is much easier to install that was enough for me. If you're going to make a better solution to Intel's over engineered jank then don't replace it with more over engineered jank. (but then the Thermal Grizzley one is german designed and germans are all about over engineered jank)

    • @ThatOneDude69
      @ThatOneDude69 Рік тому

      ​@@pendrive4real Thermalg rizz ly

    • @od1sseas663
      @od1sseas663 Рік тому +2

      No way it's stable at 1.26v. Try compling the shaders on Last of Us 1. It's gonna crash every 20 seconds. That was my experience until I raised the voltage

  • @bdhale34
    @bdhale34 Рік тому +5

    The IHS is not bending, the single arm ILM frame is not strong enough to keep pressure on both sides of the CPU causing it to not sit as flat as needed for good cooler contact. If your IHS was bending a contact frame wouldn't solve that issue, the CPU would still be uneven.

    • @VexxedSR
      @VexxedSR Рік тому

      This also fixes some problems with heavier dual tower air coolers and certain mobos bending the socket making the ILM frame issue even more pronounced. I've seen 5-10c documented improvements with watercooling running the same voltages and clocks but upwards of 15c cooler temps when using a heavy dual tower air cooler and the contact frame.

  • @honinakecheta601
    @honinakecheta601 Рік тому +4

    I use this with an i7-12700k and my temps went down by 7-10 Celsius compared to what it originally was. Also, I plan on using the same bracket for an i7-13700k

  • @JustBenching
    @JustBenching Рік тому +18

    If you are already hitting 330 watts on a 13900k without the contact frame, then your CPU is fine and the contact frame won't do much. The contact frame does wonders when your CPU already hits 100c and throttles at 220 to 250 watts.

    • @csguak
      @csguak Рік тому +7

      I still recommend if you plan to keep your current setup for a long time.
      At least you will have even pressure on your chip for how many years you decide to not upgrade.

    • @JustBenching
      @JustBenching Рік тому +2

      @@csguak I've had my 12900k from day one without a frame, it works just as good as the first one. Not noticed any difference with temps

    • @TheBURBAN111
      @TheBURBAN111 Рік тому

      its auto vcore causing that power usage... im getting 42k points at 305w...

  • @pelakalion
    @pelakalion Рік тому +9

    Dude, you totally hit the things i considering about a hypothetical PC. Thank you so much

    • @jayflooring5116
      @jayflooring5116 Рік тому

      He is just always very late compared to the rest of UA-cam lol!

  • @Ramboness
    @Ramboness Рік тому +4

    Why skip the AM5 results?

  • @AleksCoreBY
    @AleksCoreBY Рік тому

    as a guy who had Z690 and i7-13700KF without frame and then installed frame - I can tell buying this frame is a MUST, its not even a question. In my situation difference was so big and obvious. It stopped thermal throttling, temperatures become more stable (they dont jump 70 to 90C), and overall lower idle temps

  • @mephorash806
    @mephorash806 2 дні тому

    Thank you for also showing the installation!

  • @leocatz
    @leocatz Рік тому +6

    I probably didn't really need with my new 13600 build; but for $10 I figured why not? It certainly won't hurt anything.

    • @springpanda9393
      @springpanda9393 9 місяців тому

      Late reply, but youll be able to reuse it when and if you upgrade to a 13700/13900 or 14 series as well : )

  • @jhendyy
    @jhendyy Рік тому +71

    Got this same exact part for my build (13900k) and it has been a lifesaver, paired with the lt720 aio from deepcool I’ve been able to OC to 6ghz and I’ve never throttled and even under full load for sustained periods I never get higher than 93C temp. Aesthetically (even though you can’t see it once the aio is mounted) it looks better on the motherboard than the default frame too lol.

    • @bufalong
      @bufalong Рік тому +5

      yes full contact on cpu is best thing

    • @iamrubinot42
      @iamrubinot42 Рік тому +5

      6GHz on AIO? Kudos to you bro.

    • @AntonioStark7
      @AntonioStark7 Рік тому +1

      What thermal paste you're using?

    • @fatihcicek1858
      @fatihcicek1858 Рік тому +1

      I have bought 13900k, lt720, and now looking at contact frames. 6 Ghz and maximum temp are 93 C, just wow. How is that possible? Is it related to the OC settings? What was your stock results?

    • @iamrubinot42
      @iamrubinot42 Рік тому +1

      @@fatihcicek1858 100c surely as stock ilm's are trash ones

  • @pronoP2
    @pronoP2 Рік тому +8

    I have it for the am5 7950x. I knew while purchasing that it won't do much for the temps, maybe 1° here and there. But it's a life saver if you will be constantly changing or removing the cooler. I was waiting on my case, then I knew I would be going custom loop. So it made sense for me buying this. Bought it straight away when I purchased the CPU.

    • @kissofthecobra3761
      @kissofthecobra3761 Рік тому +2

      Are If you are like me you might just buy one because having things nice and tidy just makes you feel smarter. I'm not moving CPUs from systems but I could see a lot of value in this even If it is mostly aesthetic for long-term durability. If you have to spend extra to make your system last longer well it's worth it.

    • @pronoP2
      @pronoP2 Рік тому +5

      @@kissofthecobra3761 keeping it tidy 100%. Even if you are taking the cooler off once every year (which you should always change your themal paste at least a year), it's worth it. It just keeps the whole CPU clean. I don't think it does anything for durability, at least for amd cpus, the whole die is square so it evenly spreads the pressure, unlike intels. Same for the thermals. Doesn't do anything.

  • @YamieX
    @YamieX Рік тому +1

    Oh!!! I invested in one when I built my PC last August and have to say my temp is often at max 50 degree unless I am testing my system it will peak at 81 degree. It idles around 30 degrees most of the time. I am using a 12700K, Noctua NH -D15 Chromax. Black and BeQuiet Silent wings 3.

  • @BarisYener
    @BarisYener Рік тому +4

    This Frame 100% works. The Thing is, if your CPU is overheating _heavily_ already, because there is no power limit and you did not do any undervolting, it's hard to see the benefit so easily, since no power-limit means only the temperature is the limit. Which in this case is tjMax 100°C. I have close to 42k with undervolt without power limit on air cooling in Cinebench R23 Multicore. Or 41k with 253W Power Limit.

    • @Slicktune
      @Slicktune Рік тому

      You didn't even say what CPU you have? Amd or Intel?

    • @fjalls
      @fjalls Рік тому

      @@Slicktune I guess its a 13900K/KF

    • @italian316
      @italian316 Рік тому

      @@Slicktune well if Power limit max is 253w that intel spec limit for a 13900k

    • @redslate
      @redslate Рік тому

      That's when you get a direct-die mounting frame.

    • @BarisYener
      @BarisYener Рік тому

      I mean the Intel variant. And given example is a 13900K since thats the one showcased in this video.👌

  • @endurofurry
    @endurofurry Рік тому +1

    i dont understand the need im running a 12900ks and never see temps above 60 on full load with a AIO, but if fell like if your buying a higher end processor you can get a AIO

  • @zsaiboTGaming
    @zsaiboTGaming Рік тому

    I have 14700KF CPU and it doesn't bend. I checked. It fits really well in a socket, no big pressure. Actually I bought bracket but I didn't need to use it. And my temperatures are pretty low, no need to get lower, since I don't boost over 5,7/4,5GHz

  • @Bass.Player
    @Bass.Player 3 місяці тому

    I've been running this exact frame for over two years, I can't tell any difference on my 12600k but I like the way it mounts the cpu.

  • @Omega_Mark
    @Omega_Mark Рік тому +8

    The second test is 1 degree C higher because it was running 13 seconds longer, as you said. More time, more heat during the test. I just hope that bracket doesn't trap heat on the sides of the CPU. Given the temperature, I think it would be ideal if the bracket was an additional heatsink dissipating the heat from the sides of the CPU. Additional passive cooling combined with good case ventilation. Would love to see a test run then.

    • @hovighovig608
      @hovighovig608 Рік тому +1

      I have 13700k i undervolt just -1.000 on bios and now i have max temperature 85 on stress test i think undervolting is helping more

    • @THE-X-Force
      @THE-X-Force Рік тому

      @@hovighovig608 Did that affect performance?

    • @hovighovig608
      @hovighovig608 Рік тому

      @@THE-X-Force yes just undervolt it now i have max temp on stresstest 84c in games max 73 like nfs unbound

    • @THE-X-Force
      @THE-X-Force Рік тому

      @@hovighovig608 OK but I'm asking if that affected performance as in .. benchmarks .. frames per second .. etc. Sorry.

    • @kyotsuki
      @kyotsuki Рік тому +2

      @@THE-X-Force Month later so not sure how usefull this is, but i have the 13700k. My pc kept overheating to 100C, which made certain games crash under heavy load. Simply turning off CPU Game Boost in Bios completely solved it, and max is now around 85C, no more crashes. I also havent really noticed any difference, but dont have any stats to back that up

  • @outdoorsinontario3037
    @outdoorsinontario3037 Рік тому +8

    Hopefully u already know this for 13th gens, but with the high temps I changed the incoming voltage by using the bios settings. There is different voltage profiles and I went to the 4th one down and I get higher speeds and the temperature stays under 75degrees. No more thermal throttle which allowed me to keep on my highest cpu clocks…
    I tried 6 other volt profiles and tested each one but it will vary depending on ur cpu…
    I am now able to use air cooling on my 13900k and I got 42000 on my last 10 min test.
    There are lots of videos on it now but I’m wondering why he isn’t doing that for any of his videos….
    I hope he can do a video on his process if he does do it cause then it will help a lot more ppl.
    Thank you for all ur hard work! It doesn’t go unnoticed! Lol

    • @petbalogh
      @petbalogh Рік тому

      could you please share your voltage settings?

    • @TheBURBAN111
      @TheBURBAN111 Рік тому

      @@petbalogh erm i doubt he is staying under 75c with 42k score... my 13900kf cant do that with the bracket and an undervolt... i hit nearly 43k with an oc... 5.9 on 2 cores rest sit at 5.6... and 4.5 on e cores..

    • @petbalogh
      @petbalogh Рік тому

      @@TheBURBAN111 yes, you are right. So can you please tell me your settings? :)

  • @robertkovacic4623
    @robertkovacic4623 3 місяці тому

    The question is also, if we reduce the temperature because of this frame, because it has contact with the heathspreader?...in essence, we increase the thermal mass and surface area of ​​the heathspreader. So it is in our interest that there is not only good mechanical contact between them, but also thermal contact. It would be interesting to see how cold the temperatures would be if you applied an ultra-thin layer of thermal paste to the surfaces where the frame and the heat spreader touch or where the frame presses on the heathspreader.
    In that sense, these frames are poorly constructed. Basically, in addition to mechanical rigidity, you should also have as much surface area as possible. I'll try it on my new AM5 system...just a little...a little bit of thermal paste on the contacts of the heatsspreader and the frame can't hurt...just the application should be really minimal, and rather on the frame than on the processor when it's already in the socket ...just less possibility of "accident".

  • @VcomputersChannel
    @VcomputersChannel Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @sk8guitardrums
    @sk8guitardrums Рік тому +3

    I noticed you was talking about bending the CPU, and just recently done a PC upgrade using the Z690 itx m-board with the Intel i9-13900 CPU, in the Asus manual it does say to remove that clear plastic tube that is over the arm that locks down the cover plate for the CPU, and in this video it looks like you still have the shipping cover tube still on the locking arm / lever.
    did you know about removing it? i just caught it by chance and so glad i read the manual even for simple things i have done many times in the past.. hope this helps many PC builders out..

  • @LordOcelot
    @LordOcelot 9 місяців тому

    What I did was count the threads poking up through the back plate in order to insure even pressure.

  • @XeroCreator
    @XeroCreator Рік тому

    I got a 13900k last week and I already can tell it thermal throttles no matter what load it's under and there's one or two AIO that are 360mm that can just barely keep that at 99%... but even with this contact frame (which it has already been proven you can bend and file down the contact points on the stock mount and get the same results.
    I also suggest getting the kryonaut extreme thermal paste, I haven't gotten my 360 aio yet but just the paste alone dropped my 240 aio temps by about 5c... which really surprised me honestly.
    I'm note sure if you mentioned thermal throttling either, but the core temps were at 100C so regardless, the package will be at 100C... so you're better off ignoring that because without the frame it's going to do the same thing, and it's going to throttle it down to reasonable temps... it's insane... i heard the 14900k was slightly better but I cba to buy the same processor for 1-2 degrees improvement.
    That being said... the point of having a faster processor is better if you are in 4k, because at 4k, you use less cpu than at 1440 or 1080p, because at 1080p you can reach a frame cap in some games that... admittedly is pointless.

    • @willowz6
      @willowz6 Рік тому

      My 14700K was thermal throttling (100°C+) under full load with the recommended 253W PLs. However, after undervolting and installing the Thermalright contact frame, it now reaches max temps of 85-90°C (on just one or two cores - the rest run cooler) with no PLs whatsoever. With my own PLs in place (225W flat; I find anything above to result in diminishing returns) and two core clocks raised by a ratio or two, my max temps never exceed 85°C under full load.
      For what it's worth, I'm using an air cooler (Thermalright FS 140 V3) and the standard TF7 paste that came with the contact frame. I imagine I may be able to lower the temps even further (5-10°C perhaps) with some form of water-cooling, but I'm not in a hurry to do so as things stand.
      IMO, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get your 13900K running at reasonable temps (stock). I think it's just a case of identifying the crux of the thermal issue and resolving it. In my example, it was poor contact between the CPU and cooler (something I might have gotten away with on a lower wattage CPU, but these chips require additional precision and attention when cooling).
      TL;DR: persevere with trying to reduce the temps, and good luck.

  • @45eno
    @45eno 7 місяців тому

    I bought these for every AM5 build to hopefully help with thermalpaste and maybe even better temps. At only $9 it was a small additional price. I did also buy Noctua's offset kits.

    • @latinlowrider59
      @latinlowrider59 7 місяців тому

      Do the ofset brackets only work with noctua coolers?

    • @julianc691
      @julianc691 7 місяців тому

      Quick question,you need something additional for the noctua offset kits,right? I got them and I can’t mount my cpu cooler on them

  • @gamerscore88
    @gamerscore88 Рік тому +18

    My temps in cinebench r23 went from above 100C with 27k score to 75C with 30k score. I used the Thermal Grizzly contact frame with my 13700k.

    • @vasiovasio
      @vasiovasio Рік тому

      Bravo man! This frame, no matter is a little bit tricky to install, must be DeFacto standard! 25% is a Huge difference!

    • @P-Cartel
      @P-Cartel Рік тому

      what cooler are you using?

    • @David-nd4to
      @David-nd4to Рік тому +2

      Lol i get 70c in cinebench without this

    • @potvinsuks8730
      @potvinsuks8730 Рік тому +3

      Good stuff but, you also must have done other things in conjuction as, 25 degrees is way too high of a number for it to only be reflective of a plate. Somewhere between 6-12C is what these plates will give you.

    • @Ahnii
      @Ahnii Рік тому

      @@potvinsuks8730 If you get unlucky with a particular curved CPU and a cooler curved the other way, this can very much be possible due to bad contact. Also, could have tightened up the screws or changed thermal paste application.

  • @aelaan12
    @aelaan12 Рік тому

    I did install one yesterday, when I installed my 13700KF, and it not only makes your CPU about 3 degrees cooler, in conjunction with a Peerless 120 the temps can only hit thermal throttling after 3 minutes of torture. My temperatures have come down to 28-30 degrees, depending on the measure point. Before, they were 32-36 on average. For those skeptical, think about the investment in your gear. My wattage was around 248 before it started throttling.

  • @focusedwolf
    @focusedwolf Рік тому

    Not as easy to install as it looks imho. TURN SLOW with a little pressure on cpu at all times to prevent it from moving. Only like approximately 2 rotations needed for the first screw to become so tight that it tilts and rotates the processor + contact frame out of the socket (Luckily no damage to pins). Also you need to install the backplate of the cooler to hold the cpu backplate to the board. So many videos make no mention of this... its the act of rotating the screws counter-clockwise until they click that can cause it to move. When that happens, you gotta find a magnetic screwdriver to lift the screws out so you can peak through the holes and re-align the board with the backplate. Also be mindful of SMD's on the back of the mobo when you put it down. An issue that was specific to me is one of the mobo screws was slightly deformed... it wouldn't let go of the included wrench without a lot of wiggling or tremendous force (to the point of wanting to rip out of the board unless i turned it down 1 and 1/4 times), and it wouldn't click if i turned it counter-clockwise. I had no choice but to just turn all the screws until they just started to tighten and then used a torque screwdriver to finish up the torque pattern (8-9 in-lb worked for me to approximate hand-tightening... for comparison, since no manufacturer of these contact frames wants to specify a torque value, the ThreadRipper processors come with a torque screwdriver that is set to 13 in-lb).

  • @zodiacfml
    @zodiacfml Рік тому +1

    it's more like additional surface area than anti-bend which helps with temps. the pressure to the CPU is little as the pressure is just enough for the mobo pins to contact securely to the CPU. The IHS is also more than thick enough for that pressure. If there is even bending, it will happen on the vertical axis of the CPU, increasing pressure to the center.

    • @LilMissMurder3409
      @LilMissMurder3409 Рік тому

      You haven't thought this through properly. In any event, there are YT vids showing the deformation, measured using very accurate equipment.

  • @vMaxHeadroom
    @vMaxHeadroom Рік тому

    Bought this at lanch for my 13700K and it made an immediate difference and it was so, so cheap....dropped temps and allowed for more headroom. It actually works!

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 Рік тому

    One thing missed, put some heat sink past onto the new frame, the part that will make contact with the copper plate on the bottom of your cooler.

  • @shuntao3475
    @shuntao3475 Рік тому

    I am presently using the Thermalright - I saw an 8degree Celsius reduction on my 13700k
    Thermalright - Mass Production item, flatness changes from bracket to bracket. IE one side could be .5 or 1 and 2 mm then a third side.
    Thermal Grizzley - custom built, consistent tolerance across all brackets. More consistence fitting and temperatures.

    • @gt1man931
      @gt1man931 Рік тому

      Hardly.
      A flat piece of glass and a calipers will easily tell you if it is off at all.
      I have the jungle leopard $9 one and it is perfectly even in dimensions. It is not Wang Choo making these on a 1940 milling machine while drinking rice wine, these things are being spit out on a decent cnc mill.

  • @Dangerous_Ride
    @Dangerous_Ride Рік тому +2

    "Tech Notice", why did you use 420mm Arctic Freezer as your cooler for your new 13900K rig when you said EK-Nucleus "Lux" CR360 is even better?

    • @theTechNotice
      @theTechNotice  Рік тому +1

      Yes used the Arctic, coz it was half installed, still working and it's quieter :)

    • @Dangerous_Ride
      @Dangerous_Ride Рік тому

      @@theTechNotice oh, I see. But you still recommend EK-Nucleus Lux, only that it's louder? And what do you mean by "half installed"? :D

  • @miscetc-tm2yt
    @miscetc-tm2yt 7 місяців тому

    Thank you very much for this. I didn't even know these existed until I found out on a Reddit forum earlier today. It makes me wonder what other cool, very beneficial components are out there that consumers may not be aware of. Maybe it's something to consider making a video about; a roundup of lesser known but useful computer components. Cheers.

  • @thomasbriggs5452
    @thomasbriggs5452 Рік тому

    This is something I've wondered while watching bench mark video, why don't CPU coolers on the high end not utilize all contact space on a CPU.

  • @krisg822
    @krisg822 Рік тому

    14:00 yea....how about you reapply the thermal paste without the frame. Fresh thermal paste makes a difference, also you might got lucky and you applied it better.....to make this test valid, you should put the frame and remove it and run like 5 tests for each , which in total would be 10 tests.

  • @BenGKaiser
    @BenGKaiser Рік тому +1

    Super helpful! Thanks, buddy. I ordered one to tweak my Arc + i9-13th Gen Build.

  • @mariussefu3
    @mariussefu3 Рік тому

    its actually good that is higher that means is a more uniform distribution of heat which lets the sensor peak higher i think

  • @quitle6121
    @quitle6121 Рік тому +1

    is this safe (maybe even safer than normal) to use this with liquid metal??

  • @kaotictube
    @kaotictube 9 місяців тому

    Why bother with the contact frame at all? The CPU is kept in place by the socket frame, and then the heat sink can just go directly above it?

  • @cyberdemon6669
    @cyberdemon6669 Рік тому

    I absolutely love this thing. Brought my temps down by 5-8 degrees Celsius. Now when stress testing my 13700K its max is 90 instead of 95, too.

  • @jasonng3239
    @jasonng3239 Рік тому +1

    done install it today and making no changes as all to my cpu temp. hmmmmmmm

  • @daddybotz
    @daddybotz Рік тому

    Before I installed this to my brother's 12th gen i7 with some cooler master cpu cooler. Ran r23, peaked 101c. After, 60c!!! This product is amazing!

  • @travismalakia
    @travismalakia Рік тому

    What if one was to engineer an AIO and support plate in one??? I recon you would have a larger AIO baseplate with a larger coolant distribution area

  • @AxleLotl
    @AxleLotl Рік тому +2

    As I'll soon be running a 7800X3D inside an ITX case with a LP air cooler, I'll take every advantage I can get, particularly since the contact frame seems to make contact at more points on the IHS, plus have the air blowing directly on the contact frame which will hopefully mean more heat dissipation.
    Great video! Sometimes it's the simple things that can equate to good gains

  • @atomicskull6405
    @atomicskull6405 Рік тому

    I keep seeing "a bent CPU is bent forever" repeated however this is not true, metals don't work like that. Copper will spring back unless it is bent too far like a spring. The infinitesimal amount of bending isn't enough to cause plastic (permanent) deformation.

    • @naruhearts1
      @naruhearts1 Рік тому

      It's true you can bend them back, but you have to be very careful doing that as they can easily just completely break off, especially on Intel CPUs since the pins are extremely thin, then it's pretty much over also if you don't bend them just right in place it will cause memory issues and blue screens

  • @ngoctantran3226
    @ngoctantran3226 Рік тому +1

    There is a huge misunderstanding on your part! you misunderstood the use of that product! in the 12th generation of intel chips, now the motherboard is faulty, it is bent in the chipset part! and the effect of this product is to prevent the motherboard from being curved in the chipset. When the motherboard is bent, the chipset heatsink will not be good, leading to the chipset getting hot! Therefore, the main effect of this product is to prevent curvature in the chipset part of the motherboard, not to help reduce the temperature of the chipset! I personally find this product very convenient because when using it, applying thermal paste will be a lot easier!

  • @quintrapnell3605
    @quintrapnell3605 8 місяців тому

    Ryzen contact frame is much more niche. It isn’t addressing any socket clamp bending. It’s helping you mount a cooler with a direct die delid setup.

  • @1stRanger
    @1stRanger Рік тому

    There are no thermal problems with Risen and there are no thermal benefits from using this frame. This frame is purely for protection from thermal paste. It also looks cool.

  • @TheBURBAN111
    @TheBURBAN111 Рік тому

    Its crazy how high auto vcore is on the 13900k... got mine down to 1.25 from 1.43... dropped my r23 temps by 20c and kept the same performance... hell im now at 5.9 on 2 cores and 5.6 on the rest with a score of 42k and still doesn't require 1.43v like default runs cooler as well.

    • @jyi9929
      @jyi9929 Рік тому

      The auto vcore is set compatible with any CPU, to avoid any instability, of course, it has a higher voltage. That is why players like us will tweak the settings to better match our hardware. But I am curious what your sp/ biscuit score is for your CPU, based on your information, it seems like a very good one.

  • @ovadyahbenyisrael2589
    @ovadyahbenyisrael2589 5 місяців тому

    Please help!
    I watched your videos on ProArt systems and contact frames and decided to use one on my first build, but have run into a problem.
    I bought a ProArt PA602 case, a ProArt LC 420 AIO cooler, and a ProArt Z790 motherboard with an Intel 14900KF processor housed in a Thermal Grizzly contact frame, and tried to put them together. Assembly went normally until I tried to install the waterblock/pump head onto the CPU.
    I used the hex-styled standoffs labeled for an LG1700, as per the instructions, and just lightly seated them onto the motherboard, not over-tightening. The Thermal Grizzly contact frame is absolutely not touching or otherwise interfering with the motherboard or CPU fitment. The standoff screws seem not long enough with the included Intel-style backing plate to give any thread to install the thumbscrew caps which fasten down the waterblock/pumphead. There is a gap left beneath the AIO mounting bracket of just about the size I would expect to give enough thread for the thumbscrew caps, if only the waterblock copper face were a bit shorter in height. When settling the waterblock onto the CPU, the tip of each standoff screw just barely comes flush with the outside/top of the waterblock mounting bracket, leaving no thread to fasten them on at all.
    I've redone this from scratch twice now, carefully rechecking everything I did, and cannot figure out what the problem is. What am I doing wrong?

  • @dracolnyte
    @dracolnyte Рік тому

    is it because its acting as a heat sink, extra block of metal, passing heat to the contact frame?

  • @masterdftw4983
    @masterdftw4983 Рік тому +1

    It should be noted that the difference is not that huge if the CPU is already bent. So before you build a new PC remember to use this. Steve from GN said this.

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Рік тому +1

      Metals don't work that way, you have to bend copper a certain amount before plastic deformation occurs otherwise it springs back and the amount of bending going on isn't even close to enough for that to happen. I checked mine with an engineering straight edge and a light and there was no permanent bending. Temps went down by 9C~10C after installation.

    • @masterdftw4983
      @masterdftw4983 Рік тому

      @@atomicskull6405 So your saying GN and Der Bauer are wrong?

    • @atomicskull6405
      @atomicskull6405 Рік тому +4

      @@masterdftw4983 If they said that a few hundredth of a millimeter of deflection was enough to cause permanent deformation in copper then yes I'm saying they are wrong. Because copper does not do that. That amount of deflection is not even close to enough to cause plastic deformation in copper. I will trust what the engineering books say (and my own observation with a machined straight edge) over some guy on youtube.

  • @GaryKokaisel
    @GaryKokaisel Рік тому

    HIgher clock speeds generate more heat, so perhaps by being able to achieve higher clock speeds with the THermalright plate accounts for the slightly higher temps.

  • @viduani
    @viduani Рік тому +14

    Thanks for the review! Great one! Would you mind testing the AM5 model aswell? Watching along the video I was hoping for the AM5 version benchmarks and also your thoughts on wether it could damage some of the components as they're outside the IHS unlike the Intel CPUs

    • @dannggg
      @dannggg Рік тому +1

      ^^ review link fro the am5 doesnt do much considering the am5 was more for thermal paste problem than warping problem like the intel has

    • @Zombie101
      @Zombie101 Рік тому +1

      It won't damage anything and it's better than original SAM due to it applying even pressure

  • @DaPoets
    @DaPoets Рік тому

    Excellent video, I'm in the middle of filming mine right now. Same CPU & motherboard but w/ the Artice Liquid Freezer II 360. will tweet you the results.

  • @LostinMIA
    @LostinMIA Рік тому +1

    Hi there Tech Notice. When I received my PC with a new i9 12900ks I instantly decided to remove the factory thermal paste and use my own. When I looked at the waterblock and the CPU contact points I immediately noticed the way the thermal paste was pushed to the sides. I have photos of both the water block and the CPU showing this. Let me know if you would like me to send them to you? It was very obvious and pretty disturbing to see so I decided to do some research on this and found the contact frames. After installing the frame I noticed about a 10 degree drop in temperature. After that I undervolted all the cores individually .120 volts. After that I ran cinebench and the score increased significantly similar to yours, but what I noticed more was that it now dropped 15 degrees and stopped throttling completely. It wouldn't go higher then 92 degrees on max load. For me it was a great experience, especially undervolting as many have suggested. It was a bit sad to see Intel excepted this cpu functioning this way knowing very well people would notice it. They claim the CPU runs within specs as is. Even though it is not optimal. I love the Tron lights on the back wall, where did you get them? Peace!

    • @davidsanagustine9922
      @davidsanagustine9922 Рік тому

      13th Gen is Hungry power system too bro. So I will never switch to Intel. Gonna stick to AMD Forever :)

    • @LostinMIA
      @LostinMIA Рік тому +1

      @@davidsanagustine9922 Respect for AMD! My last rig had an AMD FX 8350 from 2012 running with a GTX 1070 and it was a beast until I sold it in 2018 because I needed cash to move. I stopped building for a while until I was offered this rig 8 months ago for $1750 with original receipt which was a deal back them. Ubuypower i9 12900ks (w/ contact frame) RTX 3090ti and 32gb 5200 ram with all the bells and whistles. He paid $4200 for it 4 months before. If I build another in the future I may go AMD as long as it doesn't blow up like some are recently. For me its bang for the buck not the manufacture. Enjoy!!

  • @TheProkiborg
    @TheProkiborg Рік тому +1

    Just put a small amount of thermal paste in center, don’t spread it around.

  • @Λεωνίδας-Κέρκυρα

    Congratulations, excellent presentation !!

  • @a-fox
    @a-fox 7 місяців тому

    Wouldn't the cooler surface against the cpu provide enough pressure to keep the cpu from warping??

  • @fess3932
    @fess3932 9 місяців тому

    You use way too much thermal paste. All you need is a simple dot in the middle. By doing that weird division sign pattern with too much doesn't improve performance, but it does give you a mess to clean up later.

  • @albertbuira1751
    @albertbuira1751 Рік тому

    Yesss.
    With my new PC using this contact frame, works perfecly... No overthermal issues.
    For the price, every cent is properly waist.
    Nice Channel, you are in the right way.
    Cheers my friend.

  • @jaimeantoniogarcesquijano4343

    This tiny thing works really well for me, i squish all my set all the time, and temps never go more the 73°C, and thats the top beacause it doesnt keep that top, avg its about 66°-70°, im very happy.

  • @Bodrumbum
    @Bodrumbum 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice informative video

  • @upfront2375
    @upfront2375 Рік тому

    Why they send extra screws with the frame if you can use the motherboard lock screws already?

  • @MemelordSupreme
    @MemelordSupreme 11 місяців тому

    I am curious how it would benefit from a relid with a copper ihs like the rockitcool kit in addition to the new contact frame.

  • @mrmudcatslim1004
    @mrmudcatslim1004 Рік тому

    You might cover this, I have not gotten that far into your video just yet, however I know for a fact that the one you have bottoms out. I know as I installed one on my own rig. It was last gens CPU for Intel on my MSI Tomahawk Z690 board. Thermal Grizzly does not. What I am saying is that when you crank down Thermal Rights you bottom it out. It actually touches the board. I don't believe Thermal Grizzly does this. You have to work the frame around and have no reference when the pressure is equal and correct around the sides. The Thermal Right takes the worry about a tilted frame. I suppose you can still tilt it, however it you look at the bottom and it is equal all the way around then I guess you did okay. My rig posted for me with no problems. No problems with memory or anything else. I have heard where you can mess up your post if the frame is uneven.

  • @bobanefecco
    @bobanefecco Рік тому

    excuse me. if you say the bending normally is non-eye visible, could the thickness of the thermal paste you smeared on cpu had "covered" the difference ? and acted like a leveled surface ? and so invalidate the results that have to be imputed to something else ?

  • @SimBunker
    @SimBunker 5 місяців тому

    Just to throw a curve ball. I wonder if there's any difference between the thermal pastes/applications used?

  • @speedibusrex
    @speedibusrex Рік тому

    Delid or replace the heat spreader with a copper one.

  • @Dangerous_Ride
    @Dangerous_Ride Рік тому +1

    New Kraken AIO series were just lunched today! Kraken Elite 360mm (new name for Kraken Z series) is one of them. Can you please test it on your 13900K and show us whether EK-Nucleus "Lux" CR360 or this new Kraken Elite 360mm is better at cooling. Thank you :)

  • @freXampl
    @freXampl 10 місяців тому

    My 14900k never goes above 70 degrees with 420mm aio. It used to be very toasty

  • @oktc68
    @oktc68 Рік тому

    The Thermalright isn't made to the same tolerances as the Thermal Grizzly contact frame, in practice it doesn't really matter as long as you're paying attention when screwing the frame down. What you're really paying for is German wages versus wherever the Thermalright frame is made wages, does it matter if its 60 microns thicker than the next one if you're only fitting one? I get great results with the Thermalright frame and 13600kf @ 5.5.5GHz. Probably more important for tasks other than gaming (on 13600k/kf) but I'd say every owner of the 13900k should be using one. (Either brand)

  • @maxweingartner888
    @maxweingartner888 Рік тому +11

    In my humble opinion I think you should have test it with PL2 253W so that we can see a clear temperature difference.

  • @bananasandbass
    @bananasandbass Рік тому

    Yeah I've gotten a 13700K, and I used this exact frame and MX6 paste with a DeepCool HK620. I did have to lower the voltage of my CPU to 1,225V to prevent it from thermal throttling.
    Now at 100% load it goes to 96 degrees max and I get a CineBench score of 30.166 points

  • @martinbishop4279
    @martinbishop4279 11 місяців тому

    Not sure why you did not include the i5 in having a benefit from using this item as I would assume that it especially 12600k and kf. Correct me if I am wrong.

  • @druelowery3838
    @druelowery3838 Рік тому

    why does it look like you didnt use thermal past in the first test??????

  • @glennquagmire3258
    @glennquagmire3258 Рік тому

    That's why I use a shitload of paste.
    The screws are loose to help the stock CPU holders work better. The design did not keep up with the processors and the failure rate is higher with cheaper fans.
    Where can I get one of those tiny spatulas?

  • @d4nith3
    @d4nith3 Рік тому

    How can you survive at 25.5°C? My average room temp is 22°C and 24°C is already too much.

  • @juliheel
    @juliheel Рік тому +1

    IT would be greater if u could usea bigger surface contact cooler as those used on threadrippers

  • @TheBlueBunnyKen
    @TheBlueBunnyKen Рік тому

    Am5 contact frame is mainly to prevent thermal paste from making a mess, temperature wise it's not much difference

  • @khalee95
    @khalee95 Рік тому +1

    I'm using the am5 frame with an arctic freezer 360. Very good quality too.

  • @josemby619
    @josemby619 Рік тому

    I am having an issue my A1 RAM slot is not working.
    When I installed the Thermalright ILM Bending Correct Frame for Intel LGA1700.
    but when I installed the Intel ILM my A1 RAM slot is working fine now.

  • @realSchoepfer
    @realSchoepfer 3 місяці тому

    Shouldn‘t you use the Thermal Paste for the New Frame too? That would make Sense to me. On the Video you only used it for the CPU

  • @AlenMop
    @AlenMop Рік тому

    So this is the same as adding a 1mm washer to the factory 4 screws to raise the cage so it's not creating a bend to IHS. Giving you flat IHS

    • @gt1man931
      @gt1man931 Рік тому

      For the most part, yep.

  • @nuclearpcs2139
    @nuclearpcs2139 Рік тому

    Using this, works perfectly. Thick thermal paste will give you better results than thinner thermal paste.

  • @rmorenberg
    @rmorenberg Рік тому +3

    yeah I have used them and I like how easy it is to install. I had an issue with a build using intel's mechanism and had to swap one of these Thermalright's frame but I had issues from the beginning trying to get the system stable overall. RMA my MB will see what happens

    • @Wa11breaker
      @Wa11breaker Рік тому +1

      Any problems with mb wantarry using those? Did they even bother asking?

    • @rmorenberg
      @rmorenberg Рік тому +1

      @@Wa11breaker no they never even asked

    • @Wa11breaker
      @Wa11breaker Рік тому

      @@rmorenberg Thanks! Guess I don't need to worry about heat if I get a 13th gen!

    • @rmorenberg
      @rmorenberg Рік тому

      @@Wa11breaker just make sure to apply the thermal paste properly

  • @geezer2tech154
    @geezer2tech154 Рік тому

    Would there still be a benefit if you have multicore enhancement disabled and limit the wattage to Intel's recommended 253 watts?

  • @07Review
    @07Review Рік тому

    I did install it in my rig by January. 2023... ot lowered about 7 to 10 degrees

  • @notrixamoris3318
    @notrixamoris3318 Рік тому +1

    Try the $4 contect frame too...

  • @bryantherron2791
    @bryantherron2791 Рік тому +1

    Hopefully it will be available for the AM4 soon.