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  • Intel has a Big Problem... - Tech News April 14
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    ► TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Welcome to Paul’s Tech News - April 14, 2024
    1:28 Intel 13th/14th Core “Raptor Lake” gaming instability being investigated
    3:53 New Intel LGA-1851 socket for Arrow Lake showcased
    5:08 “AM5+” rumor was just a rumor
    6:15 AMD's next-gen Zen 5 processor launch close; motherboard BIOS support updates
    TECH BRIEFS
    7:03 Memory makers stop publishing DRAM prices following Taiwan earthquake
    7:48 PCIE 7.0 is On Track to deliver 128 GT/s raw bandwidth
    8:31 5.25-inch floppy disks expected to help run San Francisco trains until 2030
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    Intel 13th/14th Core “Raptor Lake” gaming instability is now being investigated
    wccftech.com/intel-13th-14th-...
    videocardz.com/newz/intel-13t...
    overclock3d.net/news/cpu_main...
    New Intel LGA-1851 socket for Arrow Lake showcased
    overclock3d.net/news/cpu_main...
    “AM5+” rumor was just a rumor
    www.tomshardware.com/pc-compo...
    github.com/platomav/MCExtract...
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    AMD's next-gen Zen 5 processor launch close; motherboard BIOS support updates
    www.pcgamer.com/hardware/proc...
    TECH BRIEFS
    Memory makers stop publishing DRAM prices following Taiwan earthquake
    www.tomshardware.com/tech-ind... www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
    www.techspot.com/news/102473-...
    PCIE 7.0 is On Track to deliver 128 GT/s raw bandwidth
    overclock3d.net/news/misc/pci...
    www.pcgamer.com/hardware/pcie...
    5.25-inch floppy disks expected to help run San Francisco trains until 2030
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  • @Dudummeskind
    @Dudummeskind Місяць тому +363

    That ‘picture of your mom’ joke. Damn… snorted my morning coffee across the table.

    • @nickborcic5985
      @nickborcic5985 Місяць тому +6

      damn i laughed...hard...

    • @swemac
      @swemac Місяць тому +1

      hahahaha good one

    • @williamburdett9867
      @williamburdett9867 Місяць тому +3

      It's that incredible comedy that brings me back more than even the news

    • @Digikidthevoiceofreason
      @Digikidthevoiceofreason Місяць тому +1

      Inappropriate but funny. 😂

    • @craigd9305
      @craigd9305 Місяць тому +4

      How the heck he says stuff like that with a straight face, just like it's part of the news, is beyond me! :o)

  • @Lenticular67
    @Lenticular67 Місяць тому +91

    Welcome back, Joe and Paul!

  • @arizona_anime_fan
    @arizona_anime_fan Місяць тому +292

    in short, overclocking the shit out of your 12th gen chips and calling them 13th gen and 14th gen causes problems when the cpus inevitably burn out due to factory overclocking the shit out of them

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Місяць тому +11

      In short it is another intentionaly implemented backdoor that is giving issues and blaming overclocking is just silly as that would be detected in first 24 hours after the launch... not to mention that even Paul is claiming that a specific 3D engine is causing the issue to show up and overclocking issues do not care what kind of program you are using. If its unstable because of low or too high voltage then it can crash even in desktop.

    • @pptemplar5840
      @pptemplar5840 Місяць тому

      ​I've found the latter half of this to not bw true.
      Not to say that is CAN'T be true, you can crash at any time from instability obviously, but workload, does in fact matter when it comes to the stability of overclocks, and by extention that means definitely cares about certain applications/programs. ​@@Bialy_1

    • @pptemplar5840
      @pptemplar5840 Місяць тому

      Workload matters for overclock stability, if workload matters, then by extension what programs are running matter.
      Not saying that factory OC'd chips are the cause, in all likelihood it isn't, but I know the previous statement to be true and it is kind of at odds with your argument here. ​@@Bialy_1

    • @jangwoo24
      @jangwoo24 Місяць тому +36

      @@Bialy_1Don't call everything you don't understand a "backdoor", or you'll make the word lose meaning. Intel ME is an intentional backdoor (or at least it was until 8th gen, I'm not sure anymore). 13th and 14th gen are really incompetent designs but I don't think they're meant to give malicious people access to your computer.

    • @013nil
      @013nil Місяць тому +5

      its not that simple. People like to assume so much nowadays.

  • @DrewWalton
    @DrewWalton Місяць тому +53

    "that picture of your mom" LMFAO I cackled

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 12 днів тому +1

      what resolution were you using for that picture of your mom was it 99p resolution?🤔

  • @ivovass195
    @ivovass195 Місяць тому +38

    "the solution is in the horyzen" got me 😂

    • @tringuyen7519
      @tringuyen7519 Місяць тому +2

      “The future for Intel is right on the Ryzen… No, no, I meant horizon!”

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 12 днів тому

      yeah they have to skip pci-e 6.0 for 7.0 because 6.0 put thermonuclear porn in your email inbox so they are acting like 6.00 never happened🤣

  • @Gary.6.10.19
    @Gary.6.10.19 Місяць тому +19

    My four year old just came over looked at Paul and said "is that a Lego guy?".

    • @BWpepperr
      @BWpepperr 27 днів тому +1

      Roasted!(we love Paul)

    • @onur6020
      @onur6020 18 днів тому

      Close enough :D

  • @ShimejiiGaming
    @ShimejiiGaming Місяць тому +37

    The tech news has returned! Just dont run it at too high of a clockspeed cause then it may crash! Too much tech news and clocks ticking can cause many to struggle.

    • @lldjslim
      @lldjslim Місяць тому

      More like fake tech news

    • @SaraMorgan-ym6ue
      @SaraMorgan-ym6ue 12 днів тому

      so why are they skipping over pci-e 6.0 what is wrong with the 6 number is it unlucky or something does anyone with a pci-e 6.0 slot cause a thermonuclear explosion is that why they are skipping over to 7.0 instead?🤣

  • @stimmymcgotems408
    @stimmymcgotems408 Місяць тому +67

    I just thought ‘I wonder if there’s some Paul’s Tech News at 2am’ and yes. Yes there is. At 2am exactly

    • @zebobm
      @zebobm Місяць тому +4

      It's my Sunday 9am delight while having breakfast 😊

    • @RAM_845
      @RAM_845 Місяць тому +2

      @@zebobm Currently Sydney Australia Sunday 6:10pm

    • @aylim3088
      @aylim3088 Місяць тому +4

      Scheduled upload 🙂

  • @kr0gan105
    @kr0gan105 Місяць тому +80

    Who would’ve thought OCing chips to their absolute max could introduce stability problems

    • @BReal-10EC
      @BReal-10EC Місяць тому +7

      I never understood ANY of that craziness. Why would a MOBO manufacturer want to push that much more voltage through the CPU socket? If anything, they should be trying to eco-tune for stability at lower voltages for the hardware to last longer.

    • @Requimatic
      @Requimatic Місяць тому +8

      ​@@BReal-10EC because the sooner it legally fails, the sooner you have to buy a new one.

    • @BReal-10EC
      @BReal-10EC Місяць тому +3

      @@Requimatic But aren't they opening themselves up to liability but defaulting to non-Intel recommended power curves?

    • @jonboy602
      @jonboy602 Місяць тому

      @@Requimatic No one wants legal failure!

    • @yumri4
      @yumri4 Місяць тому

      @@BReal-10EC They might but it all depends on South Korean law about computer hardware law about the part used in a overall product that is sold by a licensed retailer. As that is what a motherboard legally is.

  • @Willyamm
    @Willyamm Місяць тому +35

    Thank you so, so, so much for reporting on this Paul.
    I built a ~5k system last summer and I have since gone through 2 13900k. I thought I was going insane.
    The system after around 2 months went unstable and it has been a glorified end table because I just can't solve the constant BSOD and have tried almost everything except a 3rd cpu.
    As soon as you showed those other posts from Twitter it reads EXACTLY like what I was experiencing. Constant BSOD, no stable boot, out of video memory in Unreal games.
    I have gone through such an emotional battle trying to get this thing to work, having it work partially thinking its solved only for it to randomly BSOD with no consistent error messages in a bundle of 20. Seriously, thank you so much man. If this solves the problem I owe you one hell of a beer.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous Місяць тому +6

      weird build you did.
      I too got a 5K system (13700/4090), and been pushing it hard in games for a bit over a year with NO issues what so ever, it being temps or crashes. Of course i haven't done any OC of any kind, well besides XMP.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous Місяць тому +1

      @@stenspeed1 I got a ROG. I might have been lucky getting one ASUS forgot to mess with the volts.. 😂

    • @InnocentiusLacrimosa
      @InnocentiusLacrimosa Місяць тому

      ​@@JoriDiculoushave you tried setting manually frequencies and voltages? Typical all core OC. That has solved most of my computer problems for decades (currently on 5950x). Boost algos are nice on paper, but instant responsiveness and stable operation is better for me.

    • @xTopCityx
      @xTopCityx Місяць тому +1

      I've been rocking a 13900KF for over a year and now that it's mentioned, I think I did have a BSOD episode for a week seemingly out of nowhere. I did an extensive 'how to' fix including reinstalling OS, but thinking back, before and after I was undervolting and wattage limiting (it takes surprisingly low wattage, like 120w but I think even 95w was working fine, to get 144Hz 4k in most games no HDR), but I think I did keep the P-cores down slightly from what I had previously.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous Місяць тому +1

      @@InnocentiusLacrimosa Nope, not touched anything besides xmp. My pc is stable as heck :)

  • @nontoxic9960
    @nontoxic9960 Місяць тому +21

    The motherboards were setting unlimited power limits stock and people blame intel when their limits were voided by board partners lmfao

    • @itsprod.472
      @itsprod.472 Місяць тому +3

      Good rule of thumb nowadays is to always double check the OC settings or any AI auto OC especially Asus boards since I noticed they tend to have them all on.

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 Місяць тому

      All you need is a $3 China air cooler.

    • @iLegionaire3755
      @iLegionaire3755 22 дні тому +4

      Intel specifically TOLD THE MOTHERBOARD MANUFACTURERS their Intel failsafe undervolting limits for shipping compatible motherboards with Intel 14th gen Core processors and the MOBO manufacturers overclocked and overvolted the settings anyways, disregarding Intel's Fail Safe settings and voltage settings. Therefore the crashing issue for Intel 13th generation and 14th generation is no suprise. This isn't Intel's fault its the motherboard manufacturers for not designing their products according to Intel's recommended settings.

  • @de4ler
    @de4ler Місяць тому +75

    intel and nvidia is like the spider man meme pointing at each other and shit xD

    • @lldjslim
      @lldjslim Місяць тому +2

      All u AMD fanboys/girls are just having a meltdown moment because of intel getting the 7 billion dollar AI loan from the CHIPS act, and AMD didn't.
      Seeing AMD fanboys/girls go into meltdown mode is satisfying

    • @ivangerginov5648
      @ivangerginov5648 Місяць тому +16

      @@lldjslim You still need a hobby.

    • @de4ler
      @de4ler Місяць тому +12

      @@lldjslim meltdowns xD AMD CPUs don't melt our PCs xD

    • @sirdetmist3204
      @sirdetmist3204 Місяць тому +17

      @@lldjslim Same FPS, same performance, one third the power, 10-15c cooler. I think AMD are winning hands down right now.

    • @carlz3955
      @carlz3955 Місяць тому +7

      @@lldjslimRelax, did you get any cent of those 7 billion 😅

  • @jakekatzsound
    @jakekatzsound Місяць тому +27

    That "your mom" joke was incendiary

  • @MrOranj
    @MrOranj Місяць тому +6

    95c was never safe. Us old schoolers knew that.

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid Місяць тому +15

    8:00 Goddammit. Given that it's always a bit tricky to figure out if someone is talking about Gb/s or GB/s anyway, it really doesn't help if someone just mindlessly all-capses the units. Unless they actually mean Gigabyte per Siemens.

  • @futuza
    @futuza Місяць тому +34

    That your mom joke was 👌

  • @ae112r8
    @ae112r8 Місяць тому +44

    Can confirm when I was working in the RMA department of a retailer here in Australia last year we were seeing a large amount of faulty 13th/14th gen CPUs too. The first 14900K we sold was returned for not reaching advertised clocks within the advertised power limit! And I saw a 13700K that was shorting so badly the substrate was burning hot after 2 minutes of trying to POST... hot enough to melt through the plastic clamshell I had to put it in to be able to carry it!

    • @oOHiggsFieldOo
      @oOHiggsFieldOo Місяць тому +5

      i previously had a 13900k, eight months of nightmare and battle against it to find a solution, i was desperate to have a working system i finally got rid of all this mess and switched to 7800x3d. i thought i experienced the worst of Intel back in the day of the P4 Prescott but apparently i was very wrong...

    • @rphilipsgeekery4589
      @rphilipsgeekery4589 Місяць тому +1

      Its worrying Is intel developing a quality issue as well as greed , aka getting sloppy

    • @ae112r8
      @ae112r8 Місяць тому +7

      @@Gaz9845 12th gen wasn't so bad

    • @ae112r8
      @ae112r8 Місяць тому +7

      Just to be fair to all sides here, we had JUST as many issues with AM5, except they were spread across to motherboards and RAM compatibility as well. Nobody is innocent here, manufacturers are getting sloppy across the board.

    • @rphilipsgeekery4589
      @rphilipsgeekery4589 Місяць тому +5

      @@ae112r8 I haven't had a single issue with my 12600

  • @glennvandaele7998
    @glennvandaele7998 Місяць тому +14

    One of the best mom jokes ever😂, thx for the laugh.

  • @cazschiller
    @cazschiller Місяць тому +4

    Same. 12900k here and had some crashes last month becoming more common. Mostly games but I also probably blue screened once in premiere.
    Anyhow, I can confirm that Jay's video on the subject helped me resolve everything and you're right Paul! Adjusting my mobo (Asus z690-p WiFi D4) settings did the trick!

  • @elchancho8432
    @elchancho8432 Місяць тому +21

    If you have Asus MB turn off the AI overlocking I think it’s disable all disablers lol
    My CPU temp went down 30c
    Shit was cooking 90-100c playing Apex
    Now 60-70c

    • @blakecasimir
      @blakecasimir Місяць тому +3

      And I bet you're only losing about 3% perf 😏

    • @NotMorganFreeman.
      @NotMorganFreeman. Місяць тому +6

      @@blakecasimir Probably even less. Processors are so fast now that overclocking is pointless.

    • @lldjslim
      @lldjslim Місяць тому +4

      Paul's hardware has become a propaganda mouthpiece for AMD and is biased against intel and is not a neutral platform
      UNSUBCRIBE NOW

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous Місяць тому +1

      Asus ROG MB here. Haven't touched anything in Bios besides XMP. No heat issues, no crashes, no nothing besides fun all day.

    • @lldjslim
      @lldjslim Місяць тому

      Exactly, motherboard manufacturers, especially asus, like to bypass the intel standards and have all the overclocking features turned on by default.
      You noticed how Paul's hardware was quick to blame intel instead of the motherboard manufacturers. Paul's hardware never calls out AMD's problems but even awards and gives AMD a free pass, especially when AMD was involved in the 7950x cpu's catching fire and not having a bios ready
      I've come to realize that Paul's hardware holds a bias against intel and is definitely not a "neutral platform" but has become a propaganda mouthpiece for AMD and the establishment machine.
      Have you noticed Paul's hardware has become very political as of lately
      It's time to unsubcribe, and I will go to gamer nexus and jays two cents and hardware unboxed for my tech news source

  • @frederickpolk
    @frederickpolk Місяць тому

    Happy Sunday and thanks for the tech news Joe and Paul🎉😊

  • @GTBD00_GuMMuG_JoJack
    @GTBD00_GuMMuG_JoJack 17 днів тому

    Thank you for all the tech news Paul

  • @JDGamez15
    @JDGamez15 Місяць тому +4

    I've got a 13700k and I haven't really experienced any crashes regarding gaming since just over a year ago of having this. I don't play such demanding games though or do FPS games, the most demanding I could play is Tomb Raider or something equivalent to it. I mostly play older games and racing games and emulation and nothing's crashed my computer. I also just recently changed motherboards to have a couple extra features that weren't present in my original board. I'll update this comment IF my computer crashes at all this year from gaming.🤔

  • @GD_MoonBlister
    @GD_MoonBlister Місяць тому

    Yes! More Tech News!
    Thank you Paul and Joe!!

  • @rickh8380
    @rickh8380 Місяць тому

    Thanks Paul and Joe for the info. Have a great week.

  • @darktek13
    @darktek13 28 днів тому

    The subtle mom joke was an excellent addition :)

  • @Jay_the_Caffeinator
    @Jay_the_Caffeinator Місяць тому

    Awesomesauce video Pail and Joe. Another Sunday morning where not only did I get my tech news; but I laughed and almost spit out my MD0. Sadly, no Captain Crunch today. I am still recovering from my back surgery.

  • @BehelitKeeper
    @BehelitKeeper Місяць тому +1

    i was having the same issues with my i7 13700k i eneded up fixing it by changing all "turbo" settings to normal or disabled in bios, the weird thing is I never turned on any overclock or boost settings.

  • @rtyler1869
    @rtyler1869 Місяць тому

    Thanks for this vid Paul. It allowed me to target a problem that I have been having with my PC. Turned out to be the processor not being able to run at stock settings. Had to down clock it by 100mhz which is stupid.

  • @rev68
    @rev68 Місяць тому

    3:11 This times 1000%. I was having all sorts of issues with different motherboards, processors and ram kits. I finally shut off all the extra mobo shenanigans and haven't had stability issues since.

  • @danielsonjrlibra
    @danielsonjrlibra Місяць тому +2

    I was about to switch platforms from am4 to 13700k…I just went ahead and went from a 5800x to. A used 5800x3d as a last hurrah for the legendary socket …all hail v cache !

  • @paulbrooks4395
    @paulbrooks4395 Місяць тому +2

    I had a major issue that started cropping up after a BIOS update. Rolling back to a version that was as old as the last time the computer had no issues solved the problem. Also had to turn off firmware updates, and delete files in c:\windows\firmware. This was with a 13900HX.

    • @kramnull8962
      @kramnull8962 Місяць тому

      You and I both know it is mainly from 1500 different ways people are trying to undervolt and slow the processor down from throttling under an air cooler....

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 Місяць тому +1

    All celebrate the return of the Tech News! Missed ya last week Paul!

  • @richardberglund4765
    @richardberglund4765 Місяць тому +2

    5 1/4 in 1998 was so old back then... Leave it to SF to do something stupid

  • @Hunty49
    @Hunty49 Місяць тому +6

    So they're upgrading the 5 1/4" floppy disc to 3 1/5" floppy disc. Truly some progress.

    • @paulbarnett227
      @paulbarnett227 Місяць тому

      Yeah - if that system rolled out in 1998 - the 5 1/4 floppy was ALREADY obsolete! 🤣

    • @doctorspook4414
      @doctorspook4414 Місяць тому

      @@paulbarnett227 DVD's were released in the US in 1997!
      CD's were by far the biggest media format by 1998 in north america at least.

  • @ajslim79
    @ajslim79 Місяць тому

    that garage set looks so finished now.. about time

  • @mukkah
    @mukkah Місяць тому +1

    Had a pretty rough week, really appreciate the solace your lil' news vid brings us viewer folk

  • @captbaldo
    @captbaldo Місяць тому

    Anyone know the make and model of the keyboard on Paul's desk? Thx

  • @noributts8032
    @noributts8032 Місяць тому +8

    I missed Paul's briefs

  • @tomrineair944
    @tomrineair944 Місяць тому +1

    San Francisco arcaic? Germany was seeking a Network Administrator for their Windows 3.11 infrastructure still in place running their train system. Crazy

  • @JonBowe
    @JonBowe Місяць тому

    We use to use Win 98 in 2012+ to use a Scanning Electron Microscope to check Modern (EJ200) Aircraft Engine Magnetic Plugs for wear debris monitoring.
    Also used DOS386 to help make and repair Carbon Fibre Panels.

    • @thepathnotfound
      @thepathnotfound Місяць тому

      Worked for a smelting company that used Dos based software for an X-ray machine. You have to get inventive to keep all of that running as securely as possible.

  • @darthsirrius
    @darthsirrius Місяць тому

    @7:05 I don't know why, but I really thought you were going to say "quick bits" rofl

  • @keyserxx
    @keyserxx Місяць тому

    2:46 randomly get an answer to the random checkerboard issue in Chrome I thought was some weird AM5 / Nvidia issue! thanks :)
    Seriously why the hell do we even use Windows lol

  • @intelshill5099
    @intelshill5099 Місяць тому +1

    One specific error on one game engine on one chip architecture doesn't sound like an instability problem. Might be a software race condition that is only exposed at specific speeds, maybe related to one thread running on an e-core and one running on a p-core.

  • @machdaddy6451
    @machdaddy6451 17 днів тому

    What keyboard are you using there?

  • @BolognaRob
    @BolognaRob Місяць тому

    I got the out of video memory error on my system alot (14900k), I had to remove 2 sticks of RAM. Fixed the issue.

  • @synen
    @synen 29 днів тому +2

    Man, after saving money for 7-8 months I bought an Intel i9 14900KF 3-4 months ago now I read this POS is buggy and could freaking melt, freaking hell.

  • @vinny6935
    @vinny6935 Місяць тому +1

    "That picture of your mom can be copied in less than an hour." That delivery was so spot on, it took me a second to realize what you just said. I am dying laughing here! That's the first time I've heard a yo momma joke in the context of PCIe 7.x. 😂😂

  • @peterwstacey
    @peterwstacey Місяць тому +10

    That 5.25" floppy story is hilarious. I don't understand why they haven't at least installed a Gotek floppy emulator... I guess if it's not broken, then don't fix it!

    • @josejuanandrade4439
      @josejuanandrade4439 Місяць тому +6

      It's ok, they migrating to 3.5 diskettes in 6 years. Who know what they'll use in 2050... maybe usb flash drives? 650gb cd-roms?!! The posiblities!

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 Місяць тому +1

      5.25" floppys - I thought it would be 1988, for which 3.5" would be "State of the Art"

    • @OscarFowler
      @OscarFowler Місяць тому

      @@brianmiller1077 Yeah, 5.25" floppies were already ancient history by '98.

    • @stage6fan475
      @stage6fan475 Місяць тому

      Before the PC and 5.24" floppies, I think IBM sold business computers and you had tapes to store data. Microsoft Basic 3.0 still had all sorts of things to help deal with data on tapes. I guess they are luck they at least made it to floppies and you don't have to use all those sequential access data structures.

    • @z0phi3l
      @z0phi3l Місяць тому

      Typical government incompetence form the beginning building a system relying on what was already obsolete technology

  • @technicallyme
    @technicallyme Місяць тому

    Since io is in the processor now, could they really do a am5+, unless there's unused pins in the existing socket

  • @GraysonZimmer
    @GraysonZimmer 15 днів тому

    UFDTech call out there at the beginning lol.

  • @JynxedKoma
    @JynxedKoma Місяць тому +4

    "On the *hor-RYZEN."*
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf Місяць тому +6

    Intel really needs to reign in the Motherboard manufacturers. The auto-overclocks they apply with the insanely high voltages are insane, but Intel is allowing that to happen -.-

  • @dnserror89
    @dnserror89 Місяць тому +1

    3:55 this one got me good LOL

  • @71janas
    @71janas Місяць тому

    Excellent 👌

  • @BerserkPublishing
    @BerserkPublishing Місяць тому +6

    Has anyone noticed the SSD prices keep trying to go up and then they have massive sale prices because, well, demand drops. Funny how inflation drops demand. Almost like those intro econ classes taught something useful. Sadly, most of the techies I worked with didn't take econ because, math abuse.

    • @dlsisson1970
      @dlsisson1970 Місяць тому +1

      Don't worry. They get together and have a nice collusion party to make sure the prices go up. /s

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 Місяць тому

    Hi Paul, I'm subscribed to all the PC tech channels. It seems they are all talking about the heat and overclocked problem. I've watched all of them, and your video was the best. Keep up the good work.

  • @jadams2289
    @jadams2289 Місяць тому +2

    Seems just yesterday people were turning away AMD for instability, my how the turn tables.

  • @scottbirkinshaw2009
    @scottbirkinshaw2009 26 днів тому

    these high temps made me say no thanks to anything after AM4. Waiting for more efficiency before I move on.

  • @Derek-mg2le
    @Derek-mg2le Місяць тому

    Totally agree with your point on motherboards. My build has a 13600k and the MSI board I used has a proprietary MSI setting that was blasting wattage into the CPU. Took me like an hour to figure out why the CPU was hitting 90+ degrees immediately on boot with a Noctua NH-D15 in a fractal torrent. I have had zero issues with my PC since disabling this, anecdotal evidence but I think you will be proven correct on this.

  • @mileskt9232
    @mileskt9232 Місяць тому

    I have these issues constantly. Ue5 games, all of them.... had to go into the boys and change the power limit

  • @ragtop63
    @ragtop63 Місяць тому +2

    Nothing like a well placed, well timed mom joke 😂

  • @PurpleKnightmare
    @PurpleKnightmare Місяць тому

    That is hilarious, 5 1/4 drives were old by 1990.

  • @feeterican
    @feeterican Місяць тому

    ROM Drive FTW! I just popped in a Blu-Ray yesterday and watched The Martian. Good times :)

  • @QuatraaGaming
    @QuatraaGaming Місяць тому

    Both of my machines running a 13700k and 14900k are fine, you were correct in assuming motherboard manufacturer default overclock settings. Particularly Asus boards. Returned both my settings to default intel settings and have been fine since.

  • @brentbarr498
    @brentbarr498 28 днів тому +1

    9:05 LOL.. I have an elderly couple who run a small vending machine business that they're had for AGES and they have everything on the same 5 1/4 floppy disks... I get the occasional phone call every so often to come over and replace their disk drive with another one as they keep using up what life is in these old units I have laying around. I keep trying to get them to move to newer platforms but they are stuck in the past like Doc Brown.. lol

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 8 днів тому +1

      Why do they need these floppy for? Software for the machine

    • @brentbarr498
      @brentbarr498 8 днів тому +1

      @@mindrover777 storage of the business records. I forget the name of the software they're using for their business records but it's some OLD shit to be sure...I'm SURE the company doesn't even exit anymore. Thank god they don't use or need the machine to be connected to the internet. Lolol

    • @mindrover777
      @mindrover777 8 днів тому

      @@brentbarr498 unbelievable. No wonder we are given tech that's 50 years behind what's actually being developed.

  • @voiceofreason9258
    @voiceofreason9258 Місяць тому

    That "out of video RAM" error has happened on my computer before and it is no where near that new of a processor. I am using an i7-4790K and an ASUS NVidia RTX 3060 v2 oc 12GB. It did it in Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Remedy was to re-boot. It is rare for it to occur, but occasionally happens.

  • @Barb4sale
    @Barb4sale Місяць тому +1

    @Paul's Hardware That's the same error I get when I try to open Hogwart's Legacy!!! I used to have a 4090 with a 5900x for a while and decided to upgrade to the 14900k; ever since then I of course began testing my old games to see how they ran now with the new system and Hogwarts no longer opens up - immediately pops up with the video error.
    You might be right in terms of the motherboard, for both my AMD and this Intel build I had the AsRock Taichi but this motherboard has the best power phases as far as I know so..not sure if that matters

    • @RJARRRPCGP
      @RJARRRPCGP 28 днів тому

      Well, due to a report I saw, I guess I should test Hogwarts Legacy again, the last time: Ryzen 7 5800X Currently: Ryzen 9 5900X. I changed the RAM, too. If I get that error message instead of it letting me play, then I know it's a bug.

  • @pelleg59
    @pelleg59 27 днів тому

    Thanks Paul for the excellent tech podcast as usual

  • @mikeoleksa
    @mikeoleksa Місяць тому

    The World is back in order, once again. Thank you for the tech news! I was refreshing my UA-cam home page hoping for the tech news last Saturday night/Sunday morning around 1 AM MT, like someone refreshing NewEgg's GPU pages during the shortage hoping to get their hands on something new before it sold out, AGAIN. So disappointing. 🤣

  • @user-vsmsdos
    @user-vsmsdos Місяць тому

    my thoughts are these issues are related to either thermal transient spikes not being handled, or vdroop issues.
    Edit, also MCE is super unstable on ASUS generally, and I wouldn't recommend AI OC at all. Paul's suspicion is dead on in this regard.

  • @griffincheng
    @griffincheng Місяць тому

    Are they upgrading to 3.5” disks? Zip drive would be too advanced for them.

  • @CPLWeeks
    @CPLWeeks Місяць тому +1

    I built my system around a13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900K, and I haven't experienced any reliability issues. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

  • @Panchirito_Official
    @Panchirito_Official Місяць тому +1

    Been getting crashes in cs2 with i9 14900k

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick Місяць тому

    G'day Paul & Joe,
    🤔I noticed something interesting in the VideoCardz Graph at 4:39, With 14900KS exceeding 400W in some tasks to lower the Electricity Power requirements for intel "Core Ultra" are those CPUs going to have their Integrated XE Graphics powered by "Liquid Petroleum Gas" 🤷‍♂?

  • @durantapscott1297
    @durantapscott1297 21 день тому

    Its not even that gen i got a older gen and been getting this error and rendering issue especially after the nvidia 552 new update thoughtbit was my pc and didnt find one problem

  • @crzyreaperTV
    @crzyreaperTV 28 днів тому

    I would agree its a motherboard issue as i did have this issue pop up on my gigabyte motherboard that i run a 13900k and i did some bios tinkering and fixed the issue

  • @saman5986
    @saman5986 13 днів тому

    I'm having problems with my 13900K and ASUS Z690 Hero motherboard. I'm getting random blue screens. Tried reinstalling Windows, updating the BIOS and it couldn't update the ME firmware, so I had to rollback. I'm really frustrated atm! 😟

  • @SAVikingSA
    @SAVikingSA Місяць тому +2

    I just made the jump from Intel/Nvidia to an all AMD system and boy am I glad lmao

  • @lutzfarning1808
    @lutzfarning1808 19 днів тому

    i7 13700k owner here. The "Out of Video Memory" seems to be 1/3 of my crashing problems, and I am surprised it goes back to the CPU. Other weired and common crashes I suffer are a) during "Shader Building" (Jedi Survivor, Horizon Zero Dawn, Uncharted) or b) simple just shutting down to desktop at random (Baldurs Gate 3). Any chance those are also linked to the CPU?

  • @RiceNoodlestw
    @RiceNoodlestw Місяць тому

    since computex is comming soon i better start asking now. Hotpot in taipei?

  • @HDEFMAN1
    @HDEFMAN1 Місяць тому

    An essential part of my Sunday !

  • @tommypearson9260
    @tommypearson9260 Місяць тому

    I went through that turns out it's bad tuning lol

  • @Privatepilot09
    @Privatepilot09 24 дні тому

    Thought about doing a i9 14900ks setup should I wait for now you think?

  • @cooler391970
    @cooler391970 Місяць тому

    Hey Paul, thanks for the info. Now I know why my Intel 13th gen I7 failed. Thankfully it was under warrenty and MSI replaced it. I hope a solution m is found that fixes the issue.

  • @mrdr9534
    @mrdr9534 Місяць тому

    Imho. Mr.Paul, and Rhiley at LTT are the absolute "G.O.A.T.s" of "Technews delivery", it doesn't really matter what has happened they always find a way to make the delivery entertaining. :)
    Best regards.

  • @tylernelson5115
    @tylernelson5115 Місяць тому

    My friends 10700k has been having this error. It just started like a month ago.

  • @finneogan
    @finneogan 15 днів тому +1

    This isn't Intel's fault and it isn't the motherboard manufacturers' fault - it is the tech magazines' fault. Decades of wrong priorities, pushing both users and producers towards miniscule performance gains that mean nothing in real life but everything in marketing value. This has literally overheated to the point of a scorched earth pursuit, not because the producers want it or profit from it, but because the users clamor for it, out of decades of lopsided reporting. Oh, and corrupt practices, like reviewing pre-screened products provided by the manufacturer instead of testing products that come from retailers.

  • @Tobez
    @Tobez Місяць тому +1

    Phew, guess I dodged a bullet buying the 12700K instead of 13th gen

  • @jamesgoodrich6927
    @jamesgoodrich6927 Місяць тому

    "Where you can be assured the only thing I'll be foisting upon you... is the tech news."
    Immediately sees in-video advertisement being foisted upon me.
    Me: Sure, "only tech news"

  • @Samichou3
    @Samichou3 Місяць тому

    I just bought a system with a 14900k a system and it's been quite the nightmare. I'm still considering whether I'm returning it or not. I haven't even try to overclock it. Stock speeds and settings are causing crashes, blue screen, instability. I barely can play helldivers 2. Even downclocked all the way to 5.7

    • @Alonne1
      @Alonne1 Місяць тому

      You should return it if is causing so much problems it's going to get worse over time

  • @techluvin7691
    @techluvin7691 27 днів тому +1

    MB manufacturers remove the power limits on “auto” settings. That is a big issue for me as a builder. I don’t need PC’s coming back because of this so I set manual power limits that are close to matching Intel’s stock limits.

  • @iRoxx96
    @iRoxx96 Місяць тому

    i was just having this issue with my i9-14900k these past couple weeks and have progressively gotten worse. working fine for months and then just crashing and failing everything including known stable games. to background processes and even my web browser pages.

  • @azntactical4884
    @azntactical4884 Місяць тому

    I don't game with my 14900k currently. Just basic video editing setup. I haven't ran in issues yet. I have limited my power to 275watts pcore and 270watts ecore. When stress testing, it turbos up to 5.7ghz for a little bit before settling down to 4.9ghz. Some cores hit 100c before dropping bck down to 90c. Majority of the pcores stay around the 90c while ecore stays around 80c. But then again, I am running a 184mm radiator in a small form factor. I just use auto clock. Motherboard mag b760m wifi II.

  • @henson2k
    @henson2k Місяць тому

    I'm happy with my 12-gen i7 CPU, and I still have my first 5.25 floppy from 198x, don't remember what's on it

  • @plumbthumbs9584
    @plumbthumbs9584 Місяць тому

    excellent!

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E Місяць тому +3

    5.25 disks running a metro station, still? The space shuttle was operating with computers at the Apple II power level well into the 90s. Makes "space age" rather redundant.

    • @liamschertler9806
      @liamschertler9806 Місяць тому

      Its called a product lifespan. If a product was designed when 5.25in disks were still the standard then it makes sense they use them for the product life span. Older airplane still use the 3.5in floppy drive as that was the standard when they were designed. It's not like you are going to make a upgrade as at that point it would be cheaper to just make a whole new generation of product

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 Місяць тому +1

      @@liamschertler9806 5.25" drives were passe in 1988.Still plenty of them around, don't get we wrong, but anything new would be 3.5

    • @C-M-E
      @C-M-E Місяць тому

      @@liamschertler9806 Government infrastructure is Routinely upgraded at least a generation in technology the longer they are maintained Because they are extremely expensive public works projects or military hardware that take Decades to plan, approve and build, then maintain them as long as possible. No, they may not have the latest hardware to be super efficient, or for stability (the reasoning for the shuttle as it happens), but part of maintaining them to be More efficient as time goes by is Mandatory. Not doing so is extremely lazy and now they are screwed due to relying on such old hardware and related formats because "Ain't broke, don't fix it" became de facto operating procedure over common sense operation.
      Product lifespan has nothing to do with multi-million/Billion dollar transportation projects. We're not talking about Planned Obsolescence with a train network. They ALL want them to last as long as possible, because as already stated, how many billions can you come up with to build new every year, and B, because the maintenance is a long-term money maker for the contract winner and all the little businesses that provide parts. It's a huge economy. However, not upgrading to be more efficient comes with higher maintenance costs, and in the case of that metro system, it goes down, bye bye metro system until you come up with a completely new replacement system.

    • @connormccarter9581
      @connormccarter9581 Місяць тому +1

      I remember a story from just a few years ago about the NYC transit system replacing a vacuum tube computer used for switching and routing trains. I think the punch line of the story is that cities will milk a system well past sanity.

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 Місяць тому +1

      @@connormccarter9581 Companies have gotten smarter about this, they keep upping the support contracts for out of date systems. Oh you're in Extended Maintenance mode now, please cough up 10x the usual amount.

  • @danr.1299
    @danr.1299 Місяць тому

    Kind of glad I went with Top AMD with my build a few months ago, because I was so close to going with the 14900k but Micro Center had a hell of a Combo Deal with the 7950x mobo and 64gb DDR5 for $600. So that caused me to go with AMD and I am glad I did when I am hearing of all these high end silicon degrade so fast

  • @destroy-erase-improve9106
    @destroy-erase-improve9106 23 дні тому

    About time they investigated the issues with the 13th & 14th gen chips. I've been using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to underclock my 13900K performance core ratio for months. It's the only way to stop the constant crashing with every single Unreal Engine 5 game. I think it also has USB disconnection issues during gameplay where all my peripherals cut in and out.

  • @TECHiSuppose
    @TECHiSuppose Місяць тому

    Can't say I'm shocked recent generation higher spec Intel CPUs are having stability issues. 😅