To see the debut of our new case testing methodology, check out the Fractal North XL review! ua-cam.com/video/aQHKCjuYTVQ/v-deo.html We previously reviewed & benchmarked the Hyte Y60 here: ua-cam.com/video/QNfsG-Ai2PA/v-deo.html -- comparatively, it seems as if the Hype is a step beyond a Hyte clone.
I really like that you made this video, even if it isn't the most entertaining because of the subject matter. Gamemax is a chinese brand known for doing exactly this. When I built my computer back after Covid started in 2020 I wanted to get the InWin 805 Infinity. But there was two reasons I didn't like it. It's a Mid tower and I wanted a mATX case, just because computers are getting smaller, and I wanted a smaller computer. I also liked the idea of a case with the hinge on the glass side panel so I can open it and work on it and close it easily. So with those in mind, Amazon recommended my GameMax's Mini Abyss. I didn't know it was a ripoff at the time, and it's build pretty well compaired to some of the other cases I'd gotten in this price range. On their website there is a few lies and false marketing. I don't know if this stuff was just lost in translation, or if it's because something changed. But regardless, the mirror effect they have in the front uses a micro JST connect, 3 pin. So basically it's just as bad or worse than the GPU fan connectors that like to have the wires broke because people don't push them out correctly. But the front panel one in wedged in a spot you can only ever pull on the wire to remove it. Thank you if you've read through this far. And thank you GN for making this video and exposing Gamemax. Maybe it will change our market here in the west a little. But with how china dominant it has become, I am doubtful. But at least all of us now know about the brand and to stay away from them unless you like piracy. Then be our guest.
A worthy cautionary tale. I hoped at least to get some good meming from the marketing blurb, but I guess the "10, 15, 10" etc is the best we're gonna get. Oh well. Be gammer, everyone!
That is definitely the goal. The Amazon listing is definitely fishing for people who are less informed buying the wrong thing -- like those buying a gift, for example.
I read an article on why many of these misspellings from Chinese copycats are actually on purpose. The idea behind them being that they’ll be ridiculed and then looked over by people who’d actually try to pursue legal action.
@@RipliWitani Oh I just googled those. I have a cooler master case similar in design to those that showed in image search, minus any glass panelling lol.
That's wild. I never expected to see full-on fakes after how much backlash Thermaltake (aka Thermaltake your design) got when they made all those ripoff designs years ago. The only counterfeit cases I had ever heard of previously was the ooooold lian li knockoff.
@@vylbird8014 Unfortunately design patents are actually a thing. They're nothing to do with innovation, functionality or advanced R&D. They are more akin to a horrific love child born out of all the worst parts of copyright inseminated by trademark law. Funny enough they have seemingly achieved the rare feat of infringing every single aspect of intellectual property laws. Impressive!
Here in Portugal we have a distributor that buys crap from gamemax in bulk and resells it to all major retailers. We've seen their stuff under other names also. It's impressive because I've had the massive pleasure to build computers with their cases and coolers. Yes: They all suck, but people buy whatever is cheap and flashy nowadays. It's the distributors fault to invest a single dollar on these chinesium companies and spread their crap around the world. Even worse is that we are forced to assemble prebuilt machines with these cases because there are contracts with the distributors... Please go after these and other guys that do this shady job. You have good journalism skills, you can easily expose these companies.
were I'm from Gamemax has absolutely flooded the $20-$40 price range (VAT included!), and they even stretch up to the $70 range. Nowadays all good cases are $70 and up.
@@pierrea3094 Again, that's an issue with distribution. Cheaper cases may exist, but if there's no distributor in country X then people there are out of luck. And these ripoff companies thrive there.
Hey man you gotta pair the balls of steel with the Diamond COC. Gotta give it to ‘em. It’s as gammer as it gets. Also fun fact, they also sell a “Turbo COC.”
"it frequently fails to respond to the remote for... mysterious reasons. the reasons are: it sucks." I laughed at this for a solid minute , thank you for all you do
I do with you would review more DIYPC cases. I highly suggest the DIYPC Q3 ARGB. It's extremely cheap and isn't just an O11 Dynamic ripoff. It is mATX (so much smaller), comes with 3 RGB fans, still supports ATX PSUs in the rear, comes with genuine tempered glass, and all of that for $50. It even comes in some fun colors like pink and teal (which I also absolutely adore).
This has to be one of the funniest/ not funniest things you guys have posted. How companies think no one will notice is beyond me 😂 its like someone breaking into your house, opening the fridge door and eating your food noisely while you sleep
When I saw the bit about the extra-cost vertical GPU mounts NOT ACTUALLY BEING COMPATIBLE, I wanted to clap my hands politely. Their commitment to.. "lackadaisaudacity" (I just made up that word - someone stop me if I try doing that again) was truly, truly, impressive.
As somone from a (China adjacent) country, I'll throw my two cents into the mix for some consideration. Proper channel imports aren't really a thing here. Sure you'll find a limited selection of hardware funneled through legit "big" name brands that operate locally, but the selection is quite meek to say the least. Stuff like Hyte, Fractal, etc. isn't something you'll find all to easily down here..and though a lot of stuff does end up on the shelves via questionable import practices, non-mainstream items don't make the cut cus the buyers would be few and far in-between. This is where these cases come into play. A larger chunk of potential buyers are actually just looking for the that-trendy-aesthetic they see making the rounds on tech channels, and that alone is often, surprisingly good enough. Needless to say, being China-adjascent means that items from there are presumably subject to more favorable import regulations, not to mention the shipping costs are drastically lesser than the haul to markets elsewhere. Just like that these items land down here, subsidized to an extent..with favorable odds of being sold once you combine it with the dearth of other more viable purchase options for the avg buyer. Yes i know this is a wall of text, I'm sorry. I'll leave you with an example as the outro; The world : has that Jonsbo lcd screen mAtx. We : have the spitting image copycat alternative that goes by the name BOOST T-REX.
Yeah, we in the West sometimes have a hard time understanding who these clones are even for. They are made to serve markets that the name brands have no presence in, Pakistan being a very obvious example. They love both PC and console gaming in Pakistan, but nobody is going to be repping name brand stuff, unless they buy stuff in Saudi Arabia when they go on Hajj.
@@matrix3509 ....or any travel destination really. I'd say Dubai would be a better example here. But sadly, its still a bit of a toss-up in quite a few regions in the world still - as in, you're never sure whether you will or won't be subject to customs intervention for hauling over a single; clearly intended for personal use item. At times, with some stories I've heard from peers elsewhere, you might not even get to contest incurring duties or taxes, and instead face having the items (I mean consumer electronics here) be outrightly "seized" - Yikes. Sigh. But like the other commenter said, there's always hope yet. Perhaps someday it won't be this convoluted anywhere. Looking forward to that hypothetical since always, and shall be continuing to do so.
Halfway through this video. You convinced me to return an 850w "80+ Gold" power supply from Game Max. It's in it's packaging (never used) and ready to be sent back.
@@MisterDamocles definitely... Honestly it might not actually be a horrible PSU, but the fact it's rated so low and they're probably lying about the 80+ rating certification it's best to avoid them entirely for anything besides the cases while anything beyond the most basic style case (like the one I got) should be avoided as well.
I bought one of their PSU's (RGB-850 Pro). It came with a card saying to email your thoughts to them to get a free RGB mouse pad. Then they reply with the real deal. They will send the RGB mouse pad if after you post a 5 star Amazon review with at least one pic in your review. And reply to them with a screenshot of the review posted... Gee wonder why it has a 4.5 rating on Amazon with over 7k reviews and so many have photos. The PSU was awful. As soon I upgraded from my RTX 1080, to my 3080 it would blast the fan max when I launched any half way demanding game within ~10 seconds. Had random display driver crashes etc. Tried to use the "24 month full refund" warranty. They first required me to record a video and post it on YT and send the link. Then wanted me to pay shipping etc. So I said f it and accepted the risk I took buying this brand. Bought a Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W. All those problems went away, and it's whisper quiet. Including after recently upgrading from a 8700K to 7800X3D.
I never fully realized just how important crisp and sharp sheet metal bends were to making a case look premium, but wow GameMAX really shows how important they are. The Hype looks a little... swollen? Just a little "squishy" compared to the Hyte.
I can't remember ever seeing you have SO much fun in a product "review." I love your presentation. I'm only 10 minutes into the video at this point, and I sure am hoping that there will be a side or front impact test coming. This product may have been released as a form of corporate self immolation. GREAT REVIEW.
They certainly didn't deserve the manhours Steve + team took to highlight them on their channel. Even bad publicity is "good" publicity for companies like these...
@@emilyshabangI was avoiding the news, as usual on the weekends. I didn't realize those afflicted with the TDS frequent the PC gaming channels as well. Don't worry... I predict that within the next decade, TDS will be listed in the DSM so that psychotherapist can recognize it and provide proper treatment. Once news media no longer has a reason to cover Trump in their daily reporting, those that suffer from the TDS will feel an overwhelming emptiness in their hearts and minds. My hunch is that it will be described similarly to Stockholm syndrome and battered wife syndrome and be treated with a similar treatment plan.
I'd be curious to see you review Gamdias products. I have a Mars M2 which I really like, despite shortcomings. It was one of the few cases with both a front-panel USB-C and a top-mounted power switch at the time, and after rebate it came out to about $50 Canadian. After a couple of years it finally has some additional competition (The ASUS Prime-AP201 would have been a much better choice for me had it been available at the time), but it was a decent little performer that I wish they iterated upon with a ventilated front panel, rather than the wierd redesign they did with the E3.
I have this case... It is marketed as "Dragos North" in Turkey. I got it for 100$ and it came with a single exhaust fan. After adding 5 arttic p12s and one id cooling fan it ended up costing around 140$. I must say for that price I ended up with a case that looks very good and is quiet too. With that many fans I don't need to run them at high rpms and my pc never even gets close to thermal throttling, stress testing included. Granted I am not running the most power hungry components but with a 6800xt and an overclocked 5700x it's not a low end pc by no means. Full size pci-e slots are actually very good because I can mount the gpu horizontally and feed it fresh air with 3 bottom intake fans. Now, I am not very experienced with this stuff so I might be missing something but, I don't at all understand why you were so negative about the ventilation of this case. What's wrong with magnetically attached mesh dust filters? I thought they were just the ideal type and, the one that is "impossible to fit properly" fits just fine if you move it a bit. Ventilation on the side panel also seems very good, just a no nonsense single layer of metal mesh. Everything else you complained about the case also seems just fine to me. It has captive screws where it needs them the most, has a lot of room to stuff the cables in where they are not visible therefore it is much easier to build in compare to all the other cases I've worked with, the standoffs for the glass panels are not the most elegant but they, again, are just fine. The front io isn't the best but one less usb port has never killed anyone in the last 100 years. The warp in the top cover is dissappointing but unnoticable when installed. The gap between glass panels could easily be smaller but still looks intentional the way it is and doesn't look bad. The same goes for the "misaligned metal". In fact, where even are they? Yes the top and bottom covers are smaller than the footprint of the case but it looks almost entirely intentional and is done in a uniform way. Can you really call that misaligned or is it just a design element that you chose to dislike? I think you ended up feeling very negatively about the case because of the high price and shady marketing. In the end I don't at all agree that this would be a bad case for 80$-100$. Add 35 dollars to that price for a 5 set of arttic p12 fans and you got yourself a very uniquely beautiful looking case for way under the price of hyte y60, all the while performing well enough for most people. Isn't that what you have praised about hyte y60? I just don't understand how this case can be so bad for 80-100 dollars while y60 is the best case of the year for 200$. Again, my case+fans cost me 140 dollars and it probably performs better than most aircooled y60 setups while having an extremely similar look. A saving of 60 dollars is very significant. In fact, 70 dollars was the price difference between a 5600 and 5700x when I got my cpu.
"You're being very negative about the case because shady marketing and the price..." Yes... Exactly. Those and the lack of attention to detail ARE why it deserves the roasting. What's unclear here?
@@doublevendetta I care less about the company getting the roasting it deserves and more about getting accurate information related to the product. Roast the company all you want but don't misrepresent the product itself, that's just bad education and misleading information. For example, many people around the world have access to this product at lower prices and through companies that do much more honest marketing. Why not let them see the product for what it is?
@@doublevendetta I have already made my case as to why I think the product was misrepresented, especially to the point where it's not even supposed to be worth 80$. I enjoy talking, but I don't enjoy repeating myself. Please kindly refer to my original comment and have a good day.
@@aliberkozderya3112 Your case is flagrantly full of holes. Namely, that you can get twice the quality for the same or marginally more money. You're repeating yourself because I told you your conclusion is incorrect and you don't like it. I've bought bargain bin $60 cases with less problems than this box of scrap heap engineering and design theft.
Yes. Australia as well where nominal PSU's are 850 Watt per sticker on them but in reality they deliver only 550 Watts. Over here surrounding Brazil they discontinued the Gamemax brand due to quality issues.
Yeah they make a bunch of junk. And yeah their PSU's are awful (speaking from experience, thankfully was able to replace it quickly). They have a high rating on Amazon though (at least Amazon US). Because they include a card with the PSU saying to e-mail them your thoughts for a free RGB mousepad. When you e-mail them you get the real deal. They flat out say they will send the mousepad after you post a 5 star review with at least one picture and send them a screenshot of the review posted to amazon.
Well this explains my GAMEMAX Master M905. Newegg listing was false. 1: claimed glass side panel, I got plastic 2: misaligned holes for my 280mm radiator. Had to drill my own 3: LED fans that wouldn’t light up Among other quality/newegg listing issues that I currently don’t recall or can’t verify. Such as my extreme doubt for 360mm radiator support, which the Newegg listing claimed.
"20x increasing, versus 5Gbs... And I don't know what that means. But if it's supposed to be math-" This got me good, that was the driest delivery I've ever heard from such a savage retort
So the one thing I could say for the removeable base is could you use that for running cables or tubes(for water cooling not sure i would want to though in that case), though the danger of breaking/cutting a cooling line could be an issue the water/cooling would leak into the false bottom area compared to the interior case area. Like I could see even having a false top that you could run cables thru an drop down to where they need to be. This could help to keep the case interior less cluttered an help airflow maybe keeping the cabling/tubing to a minimum in the visible interior. Not saying the case is good, but looking at it maybe there is some useful ideas even if accidental in there that could be used.
Everytime I see charts like this I smile. Building in the fractal torrent was the most fun I ever had building a PC. Maybe I will get one for myself aswell. One day.
Can't sue a business in China, nor will they enforce a cease and desist order or pay a judgment. And if you sue them in the manufacturers home country, they just don't show up.
@@BM-wf9ufnope, they will find a loophole and sent or have a third party hold the product. There no point they are that scummy, the only thing you can do is publicly shame them. But how can you shame someone that have no backbone
I just have to say whatever shutter speed you're using to video those fans on the Arctic cooler especially and even the other fans during the video is basically perfecto. It makes those fans look incredibly smooth and for some reason at least to me really really relaxing I could just literally sit and watch those fans spin it looks so nice and so smooth great choice could just be happenstance but seriously it it looks amazing they look so nice when they spin
The Diamond COC: for only the hardest gamers. Provide stiff competition in your gaming sessions. Rigid steel construction for a no-sag experience. Fight gravity itself. Ok im done lol.
wow. when i saw the thumbnail i genuinely thought this video was going to be about the real hyte case, which scared me because ive been planning a whole PC build around that case. them copying even the name is insane 😭
Honestly, Steve should get an honorary knighthood just for the very British levels of sarcasm dripping out of virtually every sentence. I feel right at home with this channel.
Not gonna lie this exact case showed up on my radar a couple months back and for the briefest moment I was tempted. Then rational thought took over and I thought to myself it's only cheaper than Hyte because a) they stole the design and b) they've probably cut some corners and compromised the design. Glad to see I called it right.
My comment keeps getting shadow deleted for some reason. I bought one of their PSU's (RGB-850 Pro). It came with a card saying to email your thoughts to them to get a free RGB mouse pad. Then they reply with the real deal. They will send the RGB mouse pad if after you post a 5 star Amazon review with at least one pic in your review. And reply to them with a screenshot of the review posted... Gee wonder why it has a 4.5 rating on Amazon with over 7k reviews and so many have photos. The PSU was awful. As soon I upgraded from my RTX 1080, to my 3080 it would blast the fan max when I launched any half way demanding game within ~10 seconds. Had random display driver crashes etc. Tried to use the "24 month full refund" warranty. They first required me to record a video and post it on YT and send the link. Then wanted me to pay shipping etc. So I said f it and accepted the risk I took buying this brand. Bought a Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W. All those problems went away, and it's whisper quiet. Including after recently upgrading from a 8700K to 7800X3D.
If you spent years building gaming rigs in thousands of Gamermax cases you should be auto-banned from this comment section or any other comment sections.
They are being sold by Terabyte, the third largest Brazilian PC hardware online retailer, under their "Superframe" sub-brand costing US$ 120 (no fans) or US$ 140 (6 fans) They also sell monitors, SSDs, pheripherals, power supplies... It would be great to see more videos like that from now on, so we can see how much we are being *forcefully* ripped off by our own market. Another retailer interesting to look at would be Pichau.
I had to check out the prices. I was thinking $60 for a poorly made knockoff. Ok. $140 for the case is what I saw. That's ludicrous. $25 less than the real thing. Great reporting.
Banking on the stupidity and apathy of people these days is probably a sound business decision by this scummy company. Glad you called them out regardless.
That hype case is so good, it's 1/3rd the price. Everything a gamer wants us included and high quality. The infinity fans are legit quality and it's was a pleasure to install a new system on. For gamers on a budget who wants a good look. It's the perfect buy !
I got the gamdias NESO P1 because it was the only one that could house a RTX 3090Ti on my budget and you can open the front of the case with a button. 😅
To see the debut of our new case testing methodology, check out the Fractal North XL review! ua-cam.com/video/aQHKCjuYTVQ/v-deo.html
We previously reviewed & benchmarked the Hyte Y60 here: ua-cam.com/video/QNfsG-Ai2PA/v-deo.html -- comparatively, it seems as if the Hype is a step beyond a Hyte clone.
This entire video is a theft of nearly 20 minutes of our time talking about a case!
@GamersNexus What is the cpu and gpu used on the new methodologhy?
They should make a full fans case box.
I really like that you made this video, even if it isn't the most entertaining because of the subject matter. Gamemax is a chinese brand known for doing exactly this. When I built my computer back after Covid started in 2020 I wanted to get the InWin 805 Infinity. But there was two reasons I didn't like it. It's a Mid tower and I wanted a mATX case, just because computers are getting smaller, and I wanted a smaller computer. I also liked the idea of a case with the hinge on the glass side panel so I can open it and work on it and close it easily. So with those in mind, Amazon recommended my GameMax's Mini Abyss. I didn't know it was a ripoff at the time, and it's build pretty well compaired to some of the other cases I'd gotten in this price range.
On their website there is a few lies and false marketing. I don't know if this stuff was just lost in translation, or if it's because something changed. But regardless, the mirror effect they have in the front uses a micro JST connect, 3 pin. So basically it's just as bad or worse than the GPU fan connectors that like to have the wires broke because people don't push them out correctly. But the front panel one in wedged in a spot you can only ever pull on the wire to remove it.
Thank you if you've read through this far. And thank you GN for making this video and exposing Gamemax. Maybe it will change our market here in the west a little. But with how china dominant it has become, I am doubtful. But at least all of us now know about the brand and to stay away from them unless you like piracy. Then be our guest.
@@henrythegreatamerican8136tell that to Beve Sturke over at GamersLexus 😛
Man, really expected more from a brand who's been making cases for 10, 15, 10, 15, 10, 10 years now
They should have just said 200 years of collective experience.
Must’ve been Jacob Zuma who typed the marketing blurb😂
Yes. They've been making cases for a total of 70 years now, which I believe is more than twice the amount of years modern PCs have existed.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Gamemax must be truly ahead of the curve, and I don’t know about you, but that makes me HYPE.
A worthy cautionary tale. I hoped at least to get some good meming from the marketing blurb, but I guess the "10, 15, 10" etc is the best we're gonna get. Oh well. Be gammer, everyone!
They’re 100% banking on people mistaking this one for the original, thank you for getting the word out.
That is definitely the goal. The Amazon listing is definitely fishing for people who are less informed buying the wrong thing -- like those buying a gift, for example.
@@GamersNexus no, they're banking on making a cool looking copy of a product for cheaper, no matter the details like perfect dust covers etc imo
so says "viheart"! i bet you didn't even doodle in math class!
@@DJgregBrown Why are you answering under EVERY comment to defend them 🤨🧐 ???
@GamersNexus : STEVE, I FOUND THE HYPE PLANT :D
@@Pratalax i'll have you know i doodled exclusively in math class for years, maybe they're the knockoff
Not gonna lie, naming something "Diamond COC" is an absolute power move
I want to buy it cause it's funny
They also have one named Turbo COC x)
But they might have changed it to Contac COC since.
A DIAMOND WHAT??
diamond Cast On Crit ?
Niiiiice COC!
I've been following you for 15 years and this video is probably one of the funniest I've seen in the entire 10 years I've been watching you.
damn you've been following them for 10 years already ?
"It's not the case we needed, but the case we deserve. Be ready, be gammer." - Stevve Burrke, Gammer's Nexxus
-Beve Sturke
You guys are just jealous that they're gammer than you
"Be ready, be gammer"
This is gonna be good.
Gamming so hard they forgot about grammar.
Gammer > grammar, have never seen correct punctuation do a 360 quickscope
Gamzzz
I read an article on why many of these misspellings from Chinese copycats are actually on purpose.
The idea behind them being that they’ll be ridiculed and then looked over by people who’d actually try to pursue legal action.
Gammer is the name of a Happy Hardcore DJ. So I presume that when you buy their case, you become... A DJ? 🤔
“Created for those for dare to win” sounds less like a slogan and more like a passive aggressive threat.
It's a communist slogan. How dare you win ! Share with others !
SAS is "who dares, wins"
@@Anarcho-harambeismShout out Peter Stillman
It sounds like something that Asus, MSI, Razer etc would say
If you feel threatened by that, you do not have a Diamond COC
I legit just purchased a Hyte Y70, and my heart was in my throat when I saw the thumbnail. Luckily, I'm not a gammer, and I got the right case.
I love my Y70 case, and it is built nicely
@@RentedLipzI love you 💝💝💝💝😘😘😘💝
Can confirm, the Y70 is an awesome case. Saw it at pax a few years back and instantly fell for the aesthetics
No one is a gammer 😭
im happy with my y60 fishcase. snowwhite all the way
"Includes....buttons
...
Cool!"
I was rolling 🤣
I'm sorry but I cannot unsee those cases looking like fish tanks. XD
It's probably a great case but it's looks terrible. I have a 15 year old cooler master haf. Still the best case I've ever owned
@@RipliWitani Oh I just googled those. I have a cooler master case similar in design to those that showed in image search, minus any glass panelling lol.
@RipliWitani for a case that literally just turns a corner into a glass 45 degree angle, i cant fathom how you see it as terrible. Lol
nothing goes harder then the Diamond COC
giggity
HOG RIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
@@twistedtatarynlmao
Until it gets a little older.....then it will be Spongue COC
I think I prefer the "Turbo COC" personally
They somehow made a COC as hard as diamond. That’s impressive.
I used to be able to punch holes in drywall with mine
I feel inadequate
clash of clans
It’s a glittery 🍆 ……😅😂🤣😅😂🤣
@@anonony9081They make little blue pills to help with that
"Gamemax. Why does that name sound familiar?"
*Glances nervously at the power supply my roommate gave me which is currently running*
OOOOHHH NOOOOO...
Get rid of that psu asap. And get a reputable branded one.
Tier Z - Replace Right Fucking Now
@@awesomewav2419 i agree,he should definitely throw that away and buy a gigabyte psu
All gamemax PSUs are rated F tier on the PSU tier list btw (search it on google). I highly recommend you get rid of that.
@@TheCerovec I'm liking your logic m8.
That's wild. I never expected to see full-on fakes after how much backlash Thermaltake (aka Thermaltake your design) got when they made all those ripoff designs years ago. The only counterfeit cases I had ever heard of previously was the ooooold lian li knockoff.
@4:40 "front IO features.... Buttons.... COOL!"
I laughed way harder than I should have at that
“It features buttons.”
-zooms in--
“COOL”
😂😂😂😂
That gave me a good chuckle! lol
Steve is missing out if he doesn't clip himself exclaiming "COOL" and insert it into future videos. It's on "thanks Steve" levels of funny!
@@Junglepingu exactly what I thought. This is a meme.
4:43 for anyone looking
Steve's bluntness is one of many reason why I love this channel.
Thanks, Steve.
2:36 "They say it's patented". It *is* a patented design... it's just that the patent isn't held by GameMAX! 🤣
I do wonder what exactly is patented. It's a case. I imagine a rather nice case, never had one myself, but where is the patented innovation?
@@vylbird8014 Design, features etc ...
@@vylbird8014 Unfortunately design patents are actually a thing. They're nothing to do with innovation, functionality or advanced R&D. They are more akin to a horrific love child born out of all the worst parts of copyright inseminated by trademark law.
Funny enough they have seemingly achieved the rare feat of infringing every single aspect of intellectual property laws. Impressive!
@@beardedchimp thats where logic and law go their own separate ways.
So pleased to see case reviews starting again it's been far too long! Thanks for this
I have never found the need to enable subtitles on UA-cam videos but the day has finally come.
Here in Portugal we have a distributor that buys crap from gamemax in bulk and resells it to all major retailers. We've seen their stuff under other names also. It's impressive because I've had the massive pleasure to build computers with their cases and coolers. Yes: They all suck, but people buy whatever is cheap and flashy nowadays. It's the distributors fault to invest a single dollar on these chinesium companies and spread their crap around the world. Even worse is that we are forced to assemble prebuilt machines with these cases because there are contracts with the distributors... Please go after these and other guys that do this shady job. You have good journalism skills, you can easily expose these companies.
But this case isn’t very cheap. You can get a cheap case here in the US that has decent thermals for $60-$80
were I'm from Gamemax has absolutely flooded the $20-$40 price range (VAT included!), and they even stretch up to the $70 range. Nowadays all good cases are $70 and up.
@@pierrea3094 Again, that's an issue with distribution. Cheaper cases may exist, but if there's no distributor in country X then people there are out of luck. And these ripoff companies thrive there.
But, did they say that it’s patented by themselves?
hahahaha, fair!
@@GamersNexus The failed writer in me that actually went on to a real job needed "It's patented" to be followed by "They didn't say by who[m]."
Chinese patent office is right next to the paper shredder factory.
Hey man you gotta pair the balls of steel with the Diamond COC. Gotta give it to ‘em. It’s as gammer as it gets. Also fun fact, they also sell a “Turbo COC.”
Clearly we need a full COC build tested!
Please Make it BLUE
It's Chinese COC though so it's really tiny and unattractive.
Do they sell a Big and Little version.
I hope we get to see the full coc lineup
The jump cuts due to a laughing break makes this review just golden
ROFL your faced @7:56-57, priceless! Snip that for insert, maybe with a drip sound, lol!
"it frequently fails to respond to the remote for... mysterious reasons.
the reasons are: it sucks."
I laughed at this for a solid minute , thank you for all you do
Except that where it should it doesn't. Referring to the bottom air intake.
What got me was
"Quote: Buttons!
Cool!"
Same 😂lol
"COC" stands for "Case Obviously Copied"!
Thank you for correcting Steve. He really needs to look up the definition of "literal" and/or "theft."
Too bad Thermaltake wasn't the sponsor.
That would have been the icing on the cake.
Icing on the COC
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334Diamond coc
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 😂
I do with you would review more DIYPC cases. I highly suggest the DIYPC Q3 ARGB. It's extremely cheap and isn't just an O11 Dynamic ripoff. It is mATX (so much smaller), comes with 3 RGB fans, still supports ATX PSUs in the rear, comes with genuine tempered glass, and all of that for $50. It even comes in some fun colors like pink and teal (which I also absolutely adore).
This has to be one of the funniest/ not funniest things you guys have posted. How companies think no one will notice is beyond me 😂 its like someone breaking into your house, opening the fridge door and eating your food noisely while you sleep
tbf so many other case companies rip off each other in some way.
When I saw the bit about the extra-cost vertical GPU mounts NOT ACTUALLY BEING COMPATIBLE, I wanted to clap my hands politely. Their commitment to.. "lackadaisaudacity" (I just made up that word - someone stop me if I try doing that again) was truly, truly, impressive.
We're not stopping you because as a writer, you give us more words to steal and pass off as our own
(Lol I'm just kidding- no seriousness here)
This should be a series
There's endless supply!
@GamersNexus there is a company called Frontier that makes straight up case clones
@@GamersNexusi hope the supply also contains darkflash, the prime example of having some orginal designs mixed in with all the stolen stuff
That would be never ending series. For sure it would include GN doing temu/wish videos.
@@GamersNexus i would enjoy a video on gamdias. it would be useful too, ive seen sponsored content for their brand
It's still impressive how close they copied it while somehow making the case bad.
I missed such a gem of a video. It's really fun to watch Steve in this bit. Awesome review.
I've had a Y60 for a good 6 months now and was scared for a minute when I saw the thumbnail. Glad to know I have the correct one.
As somone from a (China adjacent) country, I'll throw my two cents into the mix for some consideration.
Proper channel imports aren't really a thing here. Sure you'll find a limited selection of hardware funneled through legit "big" name brands that operate locally, but the selection is quite meek to say the least.
Stuff like Hyte, Fractal, etc. isn't something you'll find all to easily down here..and though a lot of stuff does end up on the shelves via questionable import practices, non-mainstream items don't make the cut cus the buyers would be few and far in-between.
This is where these cases come into play. A larger chunk of potential buyers are actually just looking for the that-trendy-aesthetic they see making the rounds on tech channels, and that alone is often, surprisingly good enough.
Needless to say, being China-adjascent means that items from there are presumably subject to more favorable import regulations, not to mention the shipping costs are drastically lesser than the haul to markets elsewhere.
Just like that these items land down here, subsidized to an extent..with favorable odds of being sold once you combine it with the dearth of other more viable purchase options for the avg buyer.
Yes i know this is a wall of text, I'm sorry. I'll leave you with an example as the outro;
The world : has that Jonsbo lcd screen mAtx.
We : have the spitting image copycat alternative that goes by the name BOOST T-REX.
Maybe imports will get easier and cheaper with time, and in general freerer. i believe in it
Yeah, we in the West sometimes have a hard time understanding who these clones are even for. They are made to serve markets that the name brands have no presence in, Pakistan being a very obvious example. They love both PC and console gaming in Pakistan, but nobody is going to be repping name brand stuff, unless they buy stuff in Saudi Arabia when they go on Hajj.
Sounds like the situation here in the PH .
Never happens here in the PH unfortunately .@@vmthelegend5140
@@matrix3509 ....or any travel destination really. I'd say Dubai would be a better example here. But sadly, its still a bit of a toss-up in quite a few regions in the world still - as in, you're never sure whether you will or won't be subject to customs intervention for hauling over a single; clearly intended for personal use item. At times, with some stories I've heard from peers elsewhere, you might not even get to contest incurring duties or taxes, and instead face having the items (I mean consumer electronics here) be outrightly "seized" - Yikes.
Sigh. But like the other commenter said,
there's always hope yet. Perhaps someday it won't be this convoluted anywhere. Looking forward to that hypothetical since always, and shall be continuing to do so.
I was expecting the cut to Patrick to him saying 'It sucks. Back to you, Steve'.
Halfway through this video. You convinced me to return an 850w "80+ Gold" power supply from Game Max. It's in it's packaging (never used) and ready to be sent back.
Even though I have a case from them I'd never trust a power supply from them... They're in the worst tier on the PSU tier list.
@@damegataco I dodged a bullet then. I just installed a cooler master instead.
@@MisterDamocles definitely... Honestly it might not actually be a horrible PSU, but the fact it's rated so low and they're probably lying about the 80+ rating certification it's best to avoid them entirely for anything besides the cases while anything beyond the most basic style case (like the one I got) should be avoided as well.
@@damegataco Goes to show that first impressions are everything.
I bought one of their PSU's (RGB-850 Pro). It came with a card saying to email your thoughts to them to get a free RGB mouse pad. Then they reply with the real deal. They will send the RGB mouse pad if after you post a 5 star Amazon review with at least one pic in your review. And reply to them with a screenshot of the review posted... Gee wonder why it has a 4.5 rating on Amazon with over 7k reviews and so many have photos. The PSU was awful. As soon I upgraded from my RTX 1080, to my 3080 it would blast the fan max when I launched any half way demanding game within ~10 seconds. Had random display driver crashes etc. Tried to use the "24 month full refund" warranty. They first required me to record a video and post it on YT and send the link. Then wanted me to pay shipping etc. So I said f it and accepted the risk I took buying this brand. Bought a Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W. All those problems went away, and it's whisper quiet. Including after recently upgrading from a 8700K to 7800X3D.
"But my favorite feature..... IT SUCKS" I lost it there XD
"Be Ready, Be Gammer!!"
Should be the slogan for Ready Player Two 🤣🤣
Diamond hands are obsolete, embrace the DIAMOND COC
I think you'd need diamond hands to hold it without scratching yourself
You gonna need the diamond hands for the diamond coc. Think about it.
Who needs diamond hands when you can't find the sell button
Thermaltake: "We are the kings of stealing other companies case designs."
GameMAX: "Hold my beer."
At least when TT copies a case, they make attempts at improving things in some way, if not just making it way cheaper than the original.
I never fully realized just how important crisp and sharp sheet metal bends were to making a case look premium, but wow GameMAX really shows how important they are. The Hype looks a little... swollen? Just a little "squishy" compared to the Hyte.
I almost bought that case. Thank you guys for the info. I'm subscribing right now.
"Hey Hyte, I forgot to do my homework. Can I copy yours?"
"Sure! Just change some things so the teacher doesn't think we cheated"
Forgot to change the chart titles from the Fracal North XL but I can't really blame you guys for not putting much effort into this.
Same dataset, same title! But that should probably be clearer. Thanks! I'll add something like "Dataset" to the titling next time.
I can't remember ever seeing you have SO much fun in a product "review." I love your presentation. I'm only 10 minutes into the video at this point, and I sure am hoping that there will be a side or front impact test coming.
This product may have been released as a form of corporate self immolation.
GREAT REVIEW.
A Chinese company NOT respecting copyrights...Color me Shocked! Shocked I tell you!
They certainly didn't deserve the manhours Steve + team took to highlight them on their channel. Even bad publicity is "good" publicity for companies like these...
Not sure about US law, but in Aus this is known as known as “passing off” and is illegal even without copyright violations.
You need to ask an expert on Chinese copyright and patents Ivanka Trump 😂 and orange Jesus.
Yeah, this is pretty much what I was going to comment 😂. Needless to say, I'm shocked too.
@@emilyshabangI was avoiding the news, as usual on the weekends. I didn't realize those afflicted with the TDS frequent the PC gaming channels as well. Don't worry... I predict that within the next decade, TDS will be listed in the DSM so that psychotherapist can recognize it and provide proper treatment. Once news media no longer has a reason to cover Trump in their daily reporting, those that suffer from the TDS will feel an overwhelming emptiness in their hearts and minds. My hunch is that it will be described similarly to Stockholm syndrome and battered wife syndrome and be treated with a similar treatment plan.
I'd be curious to see you review Gamdias products. I have a Mars M2 which I really like, despite shortcomings. It was one of the few cases with both a front-panel USB-C and a top-mounted power switch at the time, and after rebate it came out to about $50 Canadian. After a couple of years it finally has some additional competition (The ASUS Prime-AP201 would have been a much better choice for me had it been available at the time), but it was a decent little performer that I wish they iterated upon with a ventilated front panel, rather than the wierd redesign they did with the E3.
I have this case... It is marketed as "Dragos North" in Turkey. I got it for 100$ and it came with a single exhaust fan. After adding 5 arttic p12s and one id cooling fan it ended up costing around 140$. I must say for that price I ended up with a case that looks very good and is quiet too. With that many fans I don't need to run them at high rpms and my pc never even gets close to thermal throttling, stress testing included. Granted I am not running the most power hungry components but with a 6800xt and an overclocked 5700x it's not a low end pc by no means. Full size pci-e slots are actually very good because I can mount the gpu horizontally and feed it fresh air with 3 bottom intake fans.
Now, I am not very experienced with this stuff so I might be missing something but, I don't at all understand why you were so negative about the ventilation of this case. What's wrong with magnetically attached mesh dust filters? I thought they were just the ideal type and, the one that is "impossible to fit properly" fits just fine if you move it a bit. Ventilation on the side panel also seems very good, just a no nonsense single layer of metal mesh.
Everything else you complained about the case also seems just fine to me. It has captive screws where it needs them the most, has a lot of room to stuff the cables in where they are not visible therefore it is much easier to build in compare to all the other cases I've worked with, the standoffs for the glass panels are not the most elegant but they, again, are just fine. The front io isn't the best but one less usb port has never killed anyone in the last 100 years. The warp in the top cover is dissappointing but unnoticable when installed. The gap between glass panels could easily be smaller but still looks intentional the way it is and doesn't look bad. The same goes for the "misaligned metal". In fact, where even are they? Yes the top and bottom covers are smaller than the footprint of the case but it looks almost entirely intentional and is done in a uniform way. Can you really call that misaligned or is it just a design element that you chose to dislike?
I think you ended up feeling very negatively about the case because of the high price and shady marketing. In the end I don't at all agree that this would be a bad case for 80$-100$. Add 35 dollars to that price for a 5 set of arttic p12 fans and you got yourself a very uniquely beautiful looking case for way under the price of hyte y60, all the while performing well enough for most people. Isn't that what you have praised about hyte y60? I just don't understand how this case can be so bad for 80-100 dollars while y60 is the best case of the year for 200$.
Again, my case+fans cost me 140 dollars and it probably performs better than most aircooled y60 setups while having an extremely similar look. A saving of 60 dollars is very significant. In fact, 70 dollars was the price difference between a 5600 and 5700x when I got my cpu.
"You're being very negative about the case because shady marketing and the price..." Yes... Exactly. Those and the lack of attention to detail ARE why it deserves the roasting. What's unclear here?
@@doublevendetta I care less about the company getting the roasting it deserves and more about getting accurate information related to the product. Roast the company all you want but don't misrepresent the product itself, that's just bad education and misleading information. For example, many people around the world have access to this product at lower prices and through companies that do much more honest marketing. Why not let them see the product for what it is?
@@aliberkozderya3112 but it's not misrepresentation? THAT'S my point
@@doublevendetta I have already made my case as to why I think the product was misrepresented, especially to the point where it's not even supposed to be worth 80$.
I enjoy talking, but I don't enjoy repeating myself. Please kindly refer to my original comment and have a good day.
@@aliberkozderya3112 Your case is flagrantly full of holes. Namely, that you can get twice the quality for the same or marginally more money. You're repeating yourself because I told you your conclusion is incorrect and you don't like it.
I've bought bargain bin $60 cases with less problems than this box of scrap heap engineering and design theft.
HYPE lmao, at least they aren't trying to hide it
@@DJgregBrown Please, learn English. I don't give a damn about punctuation, just learn it so I can understand what the hell you are trying to say.
@@DJgregBrownHow much are you making per comment to spam here?
Honestly, the Hyte should have been called the Hype. But, they chose the weird word.
Now the Chinese knockoff gets to use the normal word
HYDE
I wish GN could've played a bit of the song "Don't Believe The Hype" by Public Enemy to completely take Steve back in time! :D
If you dont have a COC case are you really a Gammer?
OMG Vitalii has a voice? What is this sorcery?!?!
I thought Jay was the only person with a vocal camera dude? Mind Blown.
7:55 “…and I don’t know what that means…” had me dying😂
Another great video of Gammer Nexus!
Glad to see gamers nexus on the.....case
Actually, he's between two cases
gammers
That was great
Ba dum tssss!!!
“Suckatude” 🤣 13:26 - so gonna’ use that word at work.
Thanks!
These are everywhere in Brazil. They sell everything from peripherals to PSUs - which I wouldn't trust to power a lamp.
Always on the first page of Kabum! when you look for power suplies or cases.
Yes. Australia as well where nominal PSU's are 850 Watt per sticker on them but in reality they deliver only 550 Watts. Over here surrounding Brazil they discontinued the Gamemax brand due to quality issues.
Aren't those the original detonating PSUs?
Yeah they make a bunch of junk. And yeah their PSU's are awful (speaking from experience, thankfully was able to replace it quickly). They have a high rating on Amazon though (at least Amazon US). Because they include a card with the PSU saying to e-mail them your thoughts for a free RGB mousepad. When you e-mail them you get the real deal. They flat out say they will send the mousepad after you post a 5 star review with at least one picture and send them a screenshot of the review posted to amazon.
Well this explains my GAMEMAX Master M905. Newegg listing was false.
1: claimed glass side panel, I got plastic
2: misaligned holes for my 280mm radiator. Had to drill my own
3: LED fans that wouldn’t light up
Among other quality/newegg listing issues that I currently don’t recall or can’t verify. Such as my extreme doubt for 360mm radiator support, which the Newegg listing claimed.
"This whole thing is just going to be an extended piss take" I'm so here for this, not that I don't also enjoy the usual informative content
"20x increasing, versus 5Gbs... And I don't know what that means. But if it's supposed to be math-" This got me good, that was the driest delivery I've ever heard from such a savage retort
1. Easy access fill/drain locations
2. Removable trays
3. Distribution blocks available
4. Different color options
"... be gammer."
Are they wishing me to become radioactive?
I love the cut away starting @7:44 when you said "And I don't know what that means... BUT If that's supposed to be math" 🤣👍🔥
The world wasn't ready for the Diamond COC
So the one thing I could say for the removeable base is could you use that for running cables or tubes(for water cooling not sure i would want to though in that case), though the danger of breaking/cutting a cooling line could be an issue the water/cooling would leak into the false bottom area compared to the interior case area. Like I could see even having a false top that you could run cables thru an drop down to where they need to be. This could help to keep the case interior less cluttered an help airflow maybe keeping the cabling/tubing to a minimum in the visible interior. Not saying the case is good, but looking at it maybe there is some useful ideas even if accidental in there that could be used.
Everytime I see charts like this I smile. Building in the fractal torrent was the most fun I ever had building a PC. Maybe I will get one for myself aswell. One day.
ah yes, thanks GN for the long awaited Shyte Y69 review
Thank you, Gammer Nexus, for the solid review!
😂
'Be Ready' Ya be ready for a lawsuit.
Lawyer: So how is it different?
Game Max: We changed a letter and made it worse.
Can't sue a business in China, nor will they enforce a cease and desist order or pay a judgment. And if you sue them in the manufacturers home country, they just don't show up.
@@jilbertbYou could file suit, there's just no point because China's copyright enforcement is extremely protectionist.
@@jilbertbYou can stop them from selling their products in your country though.
@@BM-wf9uf they are selling it through third party sellers on Aliexpress. It'll be hard to stop them.
@@BM-wf9ufnope, they will find a loophole and sent or have a third party hold the product. There no point they are that scummy, the only thing you can do is publicly shame them. But how can you shame someone that have no backbone
12:26 where's HAF X , SL600M and RV02 ?
13:22 Me in my 30's gleefully calling mommy to tell her I learned a new word today........"sUcKiTude"!!!!
I swear that case is quite literally the "Mom can get thing meme, No we have thing at home"
I just have to say whatever shutter speed you're using to video those fans on the Arctic cooler especially and even the other fans during the video is basically perfecto. It makes those fans look incredibly smooth and for some reason at least to me really really relaxing I could just literally sit and watch those fans spin it looks so nice and so smooth great choice could just be happenstance but seriously it it looks amazing they look so nice when they spin
The Diamond COC: for only the hardest gamers. Provide stiff competition in your gaming sessions. Rigid steel construction for a no-sag experience. Fight gravity itself. Ok im done lol.
Not sure why, but 4:45 really got me. Dying laughing XD
wow. when i saw the thumbnail i genuinely thought this video was going to be about the real hyte case, which scared me because ive been planning a whole PC build around that case. them copying even the name is insane 😭
Honestly, Steve should get an honorary knighthood just for the very British levels of sarcasm dripping out of virtually every sentence. I feel right at home with this channel.
All the good British genetics are in America and Australia. The American accent is the aristocratic accent of England. We’re better
@@spartan0771 The fact that a good third of the country has joined a cult for the uneducated would signify otherwise.
@spartan0771 Points for making a UA-cam comment with the proper amount of smugness as well. I could feel the sip of a hot brewed beverage afterwards.
The hype is real.
Nonono, the Hyte is real, the Hype is fake
@@Collin_J Hype is real, hyte one is fake
You can feel the hype
"don't believe the Hype it's a sequel"
Public Enemy, 1989.
@@AlphaXVIgames nah uh, hyte definitely copied hype
One of the most entertaining, yet also informative, videos I have watched recently. Thanks for the review!
That last "Be gammer" killt me bro 😂
Not gonna lie this exact case showed up on my radar a couple months back and for the briefest moment I was tempted. Then rational thought took over and I thought to myself it's only cheaper than Hyte because a) they stole the design and b) they've probably cut some corners and compromised the design. Glad to see I called it right.
My comment keeps getting shadow deleted for some reason. I bought one of their PSU's (RGB-850 Pro). It came with a card saying to email your thoughts to them to get a free RGB mouse pad. Then they reply with the real deal. They will send the RGB mouse pad if after you post a 5 star Amazon review with at least one pic in your review. And reply to them with a screenshot of the review posted... Gee wonder why it has a 4.5 rating on Amazon with over 7k reviews and so many have photos. The PSU was awful. As soon I upgraded from my RTX 1080, to my 3080 it would blast the fan max when I launched any half way demanding game within ~10 seconds. Had random display driver crashes etc. Tried to use the "24 month full refund" warranty. They first required me to record a video and post it on YT and send the link. Then wanted me to pay shipping etc. So I said f it and accepted the risk I took buying this brand. Bought a Super Flower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W. All those problems went away, and it's whisper quiet. Including after recently upgrading from a 8700K to 7800X3D.
Same thing keeps happening to me as well.
Deleted without rhyme or reason , that's youtube .
In Australia and NZ an constant problem as well with Gamemax PSU's. Your PSU is for sure not more than 500 Watt although it says 850 Watt.
@@Wollmütze-l5wI threw the gamemax one away after I got the super flower leaded V gold pro
Same thing happened to me on multiple channels. It's really weird.
Oh I love my Diamond Cooling and OverClocking Kase. It came in black and it's HUGE. Lots of room for extra components and cooling.
"Why are you hyped about this Hyte case? We have the Hyte at home"
The Hyte at home...
This is underated 😂
Well we now have confirmed it on video, Steve starves his employees. 😂
"Buttons! Cool!" Had me rolling. 🤣
As a guy who spent years building gaming rigs in thousands of Gamemax cases, this vid is long overdue great work GN!
If you spent years building gaming rigs in thousands of Gamermax cases you should be auto-banned from this comment section or any other comment sections.
Customers chose the cases matey not me, but I respect the comment and I'll see myself out 👋
Thanks Steve, for Diamond COC 😂
They are being sold by Terabyte, the third largest Brazilian PC hardware online retailer, under their "Superframe" sub-brand costing US$ 120 (no fans) or US$ 140 (6 fans)
They also sell monitors, SSDs, pheripherals, power supplies...
It would be great to see more videos like that from now on, so we can see how much we are being *forcefully* ripped off by our own market.
Another retailer interesting to look at would be Pichau.
That Silent Hill case straight up looks like the one I got on my first unfortunate purchase from IBuyPower in like 2010 lol.
I had to check out the prices. I was thinking $60 for a poorly made knockoff. Ok. $140 for the case is what I saw. That's ludicrous. $25 less than the real thing. Great reporting.
Banking on the stupidity and apathy of people these days is probably a sound business decision by this scummy company. Glad you called them out regardless.
Are you talking about nvidia?
@@Skobeloff... 🥱
@@Akkbar21 I clearly hit a nerve there, sorry to briefly interrupt your wilful delusion.
@@Skobeloff... I don't care about nvidia in relation to what I said. no delusion. goodbye!
@@Akkbar21 The "stupidity and apathy" is yours.
This video is pretty HYPEd out
A company called "mars gaming" has one that looks EXACTLY (to my eye)
the same called "MC-3T"
The Mars Gaming one is definitely identical to the Hype. I guess they're both built in the same factory with the same tooling
Thats all that company does, basically xD
wouldnt be surprised if its the same people using several companies.
I don't know if you already have one, but would be really nice if you could do a big list of top cases, budget, airflow, for expansions etc.
That hype case is so good, it's 1/3rd the price. Everything a gamer wants us included and high quality. The infinity fans are legit quality and it's was a pleasure to install a new system on. For gamers on a budget who wants a good look. It's the perfect buy !
I got the gamdias NESO P1 because it was the only one that could house a RTX 3090Ti on my budget and you can open the front of the case with a button. 😅
Honestly unique, would love them to review it lol
Just looked that up. Honestly looks cool but I need a normal atx case the new fat designs won't fit with my desk