Riding the world’s most expensive groupset! Campagnolo Super Record EPS Disc review
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- The best groupset in the world if money is no object? My in-depth review of Campagnolo Super Record EPS Disc and how it compares to Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 and SRAM Red eTap AXS.
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Content
00:00 Intro
1:29 Looks
2:23 Shifting performance
3:56 Ergonomics
6:07 12 Speed
7:30 Brakes
9:48 Weight
10:38 Price
11:56 Worth the money?
13:44 Compared to Shimano & SRAM
14:38 Verdict - Спорт
Campagnolo must be delighted to have such a review. I have campagnolo on most of my bikes, and I like it in general.
I have a Colnago with Campagnolo Record 10 speed from 2001. I had to go to the workshop once in these 20 years. The indexing in the right shifter lever gradually disappeared. A little spring was replaced. Going out on this 20 year old bike now for a 200 km ride! I must say that electronic shifting and disc brakes is a great improvement though, as long as it works. But my new bike with di2 the battery drains on 3 days, and the workshop have had it for 3 weeks. No big issue with a old spare bike with campy!
Rediscovering the simple joy of riding again - no demanding training schedule, no traveling, just cycling. I have also discovered that my old bicycles’ geometry doesn’t exactly suit my older body. Consequently I am shopping for a new bike and this Super Record EPS set is terrific. It’s overkill for me now, but it’s gorgeous. It won’t make me faster, but I don’t race anyway . . .
I understand how it feels to spend thousands of dollars on a pile of garbage.
I have 4 bikes with Campagnolo: Two have 10 speed Record, the other two with 11 Speed Super Record. All mechanical with one being the 11 Speed HO, the first release of the Hydro brakes. Not a single issue with any of the four. Never tried EPS, Shimano or SRAM's electronic sets on the road, but have tested the shifting of all three at the LBS. I like the way Campagnolo EPS shift buttons feel. The button presses feel more defined or positive in my opinion and the derailleurs are quieter in operation when compared to Shimano and SRAM. All three manufactures make great sets though. I would really like to see FSA continue to develop their groupset.
What do you do for a living?
@@MichaelRedford Bike theft
@@hans2574 haha
@@MichaelRedford fix people teeth
I like how a groupset is more expensive than my used car I bought.
It's not for everyone.
A bit like saying a McLaren or a Ferrari costs more than my house!
Of course- it’s a flagship product as used by Pogacar to win the Tour de France! Campagnolo offer more affordable groupsets as well which are excellent - I’ve been using various Campag groupsets and wheels for over 20 years. It works out very cost effective over time because the stuff is super durable- even chains and cassettes last ages. I used to use Shimano but will never go back.
Campagnolo all day! I still have my complete 1989 C record group set. Apart from basic maintenance has never given me an issue. The only crappy Campagnolo groupset I've ridden was the old Triomphe. Chorus, Athena, Daytona, Veloce, Victory all excellent.
never tried electronic campa, but mechanical is awwweeee suuuum. I love the separation of up- and downshifts, also it's so much more accessible when in the drops I think.
@@0THC0 well upshifting less so but at least down is way way easier to reach and much more needed in the drops.
That. And nonetheless better than shimano / sram
Nice review...Been riding for 30+ years, four Italian bikes sitting next to me, all Campagnolo Super Record...enough said!
I grabbed a super record groupset after being fed up with the potenza… blowing some cash I made on bitcoin. what an upgrade it is, so smooth and comfortable and less fatiguing on long rides I find
Great review Dave real quality like the group set on test !
4,100 pounds is a breathtaking amount of money for a groupset. Great content as always, David. I really like your channel and I'm just some guy riding a low end hybrid trying to get in some kind of cycling shape. Cheers.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great review always love my campy extremely reliable it always surprises me how many people criticise Campagnolo but have never even used it before.
I've used it. I wasn't that impressed by it other than the looks. It works great. It just is not better than Shimano or SRAM. It just works differently. Again, it does look amazing but not sure if the looks are worth the additional costs.
@@DaveCM based on the price is it twice as reliable as say Ultegra DI2? No it's not, therefore not worth the money for most of us....
go see Hambinis video on campy crankset poor load and issues...
@@firstname7780 have you seen Hambinis review on Sram not to impressive at all so then that only leaves me Shimano and three had problems with their cranks Breaking so i’ll stay with campy thanks 😊
@@lechprotean I feel very sorry for you
Impressive groupset, very well presented. Thanks.
Bianchi and Campagnolo the two oldest and most respected names in cycling.
You are one of the best bike journalists out there. I enjoy your videos a lot. Content is great and you objective despite the one that you criticized Chris’s disc break thing:) well done and keep up
Great review!
What a lovely video... thank you David!
Just subscribed to your channel 😉
Love your accent! 😄😊
In my pro racing days in the 1980's I rode the finest crafted custom made steel frames equipped with Campagnolo Super Record. Wondering why today riding 10,000 miles a year I am happy on $400.00 dollar bike (yes you read that correctly 400). I am an expert mechanic after over 50 years of riding/servicing my own bikes...and have tested bike parts in the extremes of terrain and roads. I have found since I don't do sprint training anymore I don't need expensive bikes or parts. I now equip my bikes with Shimano cranks like Alivio or Suntour XCT, and Tektro brakes like Novella, Vuelta wheels, Schwabe tires, Alivio shifting, flat bars with aero bars and bar ends, Richey seatpost/stem/bars, WTB saddle. This $400 bike is as strong and just as dependable as my old race bikes... and with an aluminum frame the bottom bracket flex that steel bikes never overcame is gone. all for $400 (plus aftermarket wheels ($150) , XPDpedals ($50), tires ($120pair) , bar ends/aerobars ($80).
Good for you 👍
So are you sure you haven't puked up the logic being saddled with a beautiful wife and three kids thru school have made you think as a rationalization.
I run Campy Record 12spd mechanical. Totally superb shifting and riding. Less than half the price of SR eps, great deal.
I run Record 11 and I agree
Excellent objective review! Thank you so much David! If only there was any stock!
I like Shimano mechanical shifting. Simple, Reliable, and more engaging. For me at least, nothing like a good mechanical lever throw inward. And an old school click instead of an electronic whirr .
@Chris Tate dunno, maybe that's due to how my 105 cables are routed in the frame, but I'm having to constantly adjust the tension to get precise shifting on a mechanical. For me electronic shifting is superior as it offers the same, reliable shift no matter how hard you press the lever...
If you’ve to adjust all the time, then there is something wrong. A well adjusted mechanical group set with fresh in and outer cables should be snappy as hell and need maybe only once or twice finetuning after installing.
You should try Campagnolo mechanical then it's completely different and less slop in the levers. Click bang click bang click
I know this strand is a year old but I´ll try anway. I had a Parlee Z1 custom build in 2008 with a Campagnolo Titanium Record 10 speed which had just been released. I was running a compact with 11x25 cassette and can say that its performance over a 12 year period was utterly superlative. The feel and capability it gave arguably the world´s best and most expensive frames of the day was a perfect marriage. I raced the bike, did regular club meets, sportifs and training camps using a flight case, toured and trained 10´s of 000´s of miles with minimal maintenance in absolute confidence that gear changes would be instant, silky smooth and 100% reliable even under load and in attacking anger. A sheer joy. Having moved from London to Spain I eventually decided to 'upgrade' to the Super Record 12 mainly as I didn´t deem the workshops in Spain capable of rebuilding the slanting rear derailleur. The new Super Record is a thing of beauty to behold but just doesn´t come anywhere close to the 10. It misfires is crunchy, pingy, needs fettling and is definitely not to be relied upon for assured safe changes each and every time a safe sharp acceleration in a demanding manoeuvre is dialled. I have made my mind up after 3 years, easing off and accepting its limitations. I wanted to clarify whether the groupset you tested here did indeed comprise a titanium 12 cog cassette? If so 'haleluya' as the 11x32 I have is aluminium and steel with some ineffective fancy coating. It does not have the assured silky smooth feel of the titanium 10. I'd love to revert vintage some day as stupidly I sold the entire groupset on eBay. Your EPS (V3 or V4?) report was very encouraging as the original EPS version was variously reported as agricultural to too slow on demand. Also that the 12 was optimised for EPS explaining the possible inferiority of the mechanical version I have. I hope at some point to buy the EPS 12 V4 and fit it to a custom Moots titanium frame wanting to get back into the stratosphere as a committed Campag aficionado. Thanks for reading.. keep up the good work!
My favorite groupset by far.. and I have used them all!
I was thinking about getting a new frame and group set, I like the FSA semi-wireless group as well as Campy. Honestly having ridden a few 10K or better bikes, you can tell you're on a high dollar machine, so yeah I could get the frame of my choice, Campagnola Super Record the group set I would go with, only because everyone else has Shimano.
Most guys I'm my group ride DA or S-Red but they all oooh and ahhh over my bike lol
I have campy esp first gen on at wilier zero 7, now going on 7 years old and still works perfect, battery life is outstanding. Also have 11 speed chorus. All comes down to do you want to ride the same as everyone else or do you and afford to have the best, Lamborghini or corvette, your choice
GREAT REVIEW. THX
My next groupset buy will be a Rim Brake version of any Campagnolo groupset, SRAM and Shimano made a serious mistake killing the rim brake on their top end offerings, it's even ridiculous that Chorus not being top of the line compares with Dura-Ace. Rim Brake FTW
Hey so Camps rim brakes are better than Dua-ace 9000 really? Even chorus ,Athena etc?
Smooth and fast shifting is essential. If this was the only product that offered that type of performance, then I’d say it’s a must have. However, other group sets offer excellent performance as well. But if I was a super fan and I felt I must have the “barbecue “ setup, I’d get it somehow.
Since I don’t race because I’m slower than most children on their bikes, it would be nothing but a conversion set up for me. It would be pure bling..
Quiet, smooth, quick and luxurious. I love my Campy Super Record EPS.
Love your reviews, it’s good to know what’s the top end like but realistically I think many of us won’t be spending £10k on a bicycle to commute or weekend cycling. I wonder if the bicycles are becoming too expensive nowadays. If the distributors did not have such big margins I think we would be seeing these bicycles at half their current retail price
I also installed SRAM blips under the flat side of my handlebars for climbing.
The 12 speed mechanical is also stunning at changing, sharp fast and never misses.
Same experience here. Record/Ultegra is on same level IMO. Use both groupsets 😉
Salute David 🙏👍🔥🇵🇷💯
I think for appearance, it’s hard to just say a groupset is pretty or not, it’s more so how suiting it is for the bike. A modern futuristic looking Trek Madone probably looks better with Sram which is very industrial and futuristic, whereas Italian bike Bianchi will look way better with Super Record since its Italian and more arty.
Who looks at their bikes while they're riding? That's what I want to know so I don't ride anywhere near them!
I love how the shutterspeed in slow-mo makes it look like the brake rotors are stationary @ :20
There's a video of a helicopter going through the same thing, it's surreal
Good eye.
Used for 30 years. Have record on my top line carbon bike and veloce on my winter bike - its is the best for me, and geared around true road bike use in how it shift, there is no beating the multiple shift up and down. Love it. Great video David. However, what does miff me is the OEM's ditch and switch to shimano - are riders getting the best option. No.
Its because its to fragile and sticks out to far for use in A super big and tight peloton Todaj the Kid Champion At UAE has A teammate who's a super Great Ryder in his own a right I just forgot his name . Among others Broke A rear Mech( D-rail)the Day he got beat Bad by Vingago. Alot of pros have Been Mad about how easy it is to break. Funny , Campa has addressed it , but not in time for the new contract, I guess.
I'm talking out of the side of my neck here but im pretty sure that's why. Todaj needs his lead out guys to pull him a waze more to get the tour won again. Ernesto is Savvy to that and equates TDF wins to big bike sales. 80% sure I'm right about this. Please comment if you know more.
I greatly prefer the Campagnolo shifters, not only the separation between index finger and thumb, but also the ability to instantly switch several gears up. It is great when coming out of slow corners. I'm not sure how fast and intuitive the EPS can do this as I've never tried that. But I imagine holding down the button is not as fast and deliberately switching 2, 3, 4 or 5 gears in one go is harder as you only have timing to determine that while the mechanical feedback on my thumb was really precise (you feel how many clicks you went).
I have started out cycling 20 years ago with a Campa Veloce 8 speed, then upgraded to a Campa Veloce 10 speed. Currently I'm riding a Chorus 11 speed but I'm looking to upgrade to a more modern bike since aero, wheel and tire technology has made so much progress in recent years.
And since I'm older now and disposable money is more available than in my earlier years, the Super Record will be on my next bike. I'm just not sure if it's going to be mechanical or EPS.
I have tried a Dura Ace Di2 on Mallorca last year and I don't really see the appeal of electronic shifting - it isn't faster, more precise or more reliable. It isn't bad, but do I want to have another battery to wory about?
Hi David love your videos how about a review of classified group set gets rid of the front derailleur.
Yes I would love to
I must admit working on and riding a few bikes in the shop the Sram Etap shift layout makes a lot of sense to me.
Shimano Di2 is a little bit more refined and smoother shifting.
Never liked Campag mechanical gears.
The front mech has too much movement for my liking!
The new Campag stuff looks nice.
I will get my chance to work on this stuff.
A customer has just ordered a Colnago C64 with a full Campag Super Record EPS disc group set to be fitted!
😍😍
How weird... There are 3 trim positions, I usually find poor mechanics diss Campagnolo because of their own inadequacies
@@davidmessenger3446
Not dissing Campagnolo at all.
All the better for choice!
Personal preference I suppose.
Campagnolo may have three trim positions but I didn't like the feel.
As I said it's personal choice and nothing to do with bad mechanics or being inadequate!
😂😂
Simply the best Group in the most beautiful bike in the world.
I'm happy with my SRAM, so thank you.
Hi.
What a review.
Campag and Bianchi, heaven.
Now where is that bank I need to rob.
Any chance of doing a re iew on the Bianchi aria e road bike?.
Heard great things about it but looking forward to hopefully a review from the best.
Grant
Hi David! So just to clarify....when you say that for you this is better than Dura Ace and the Red? Is that coming from a personal experience based on performance? Or is it just because you like the way Super Record looks?
I love my super record mechanical groupset
I was really hoping to get to the end of this video to hear you tell me the electronic version is ‘Tippetty top’ tbh 😊
Haha! Next time :)
Hi dear David. Awesome review as always. You have the best content!
I have some questions.
What do you think about those Fulcrum Wind 40db wheels?
Do you like them?
Would you recommend them or other option at the same price range?
After reviewing top of the line wheels as the new Campy Bora Ultra WTOs, what do you think of this Fulcrums?
I’m a normal rider which rides both flats and lots of climbs, so want to upgrade to a carbon wheel set which is versatile, light, but also offers aero advantages. Been really interested in this fulcrum because of the features and price, but would love your review/comments/thoughts on those wheels.
Thank you so much!
Thanks! I was impressed with the Fulcrum wheels. They look and ride very well and are well priced and while they're not in the same league as the Bora Ultra WTOs they're a decent setup
@@davidarthur awesome David. Thanks so much for the reply. Would you recommend them or other in this price range? You think 40mm is enough for aero advantages and versatile enough for lots of climbing?
Thanks again and keep the great content.
Best wishes!
Great review. Just has a quick look at a few websites. $4900 AUD with rim brakes for the the 12 speed campy EPS. $4200 Dura-Ace Di2. When you're talking that sort of money the $700 AUD difference might be worth it too you. I'd be very happy with Ultegra mechanical on my next new bike at this stage though. $1600 AUD and I'm sure it wouldn't make me any slower.
The time it takes you to get in the next cog I'm off already...
It happens all the time.
I don't think so 😎
@@byrondixon4648 shift speeds are worlds different
Are you saying that? Or is it your wife and kid crying in the back round. Lol right Mr responsible and sensible.... Right pat on the back from wifey who spends that difference of your Money in botox to keep her face from falling off.
I dig it man. Not all of us went that route.
Do a comparison between the 3 groupset brands
Yes great idea
😍😍😍 that would look sooooo good on a custom StJoriscycles 😍🥰
Thinking pearlescent white or royal blue candy. Maybe a nice purple… Deda finish 🤔💭
Hi David. Great review, but how much is the Rim Brake version?
Thanks for the great review. What does the thumb lever feel like? I have 11 speed chorus mechanical and my old thumbs gets sore after several hours and it’s easy to shift 2 gears by accident instead of one. But I love Campagnolo and I’m thinking that EPS may be the answer for my thumb issue.
That kit is nice, who makes it, link please.
Waiting for campagnolo’s wireless group set..
Me too
It’s milliseconds slower with current tech so we’ll have to wait
The price too is THE BEST, given the cost and benefits analysis. Really.
Campy should offer a crash replacement scheme for SR: first two years 70 % off a replacement part; years 3-10, 50 percent off retail price for replacement part for crashed damaged items. Professional competitive use excluded. It would make the exorbitant price more tolerable, without substantially cutting into profits. This is really a luxury bike enthusiast product.
Great video. Where can I find that Jersey and socks?
Nevermind, found your link!
Glad you found it. New Sportful clobber, really cool designs imo
hahaha love your review !
You might never be happy with another bike or groupset, you'll just have to buy this one!
4k for a group set? Glad they're thinking of us small people ..
it is to match with the 4k framesets made of 2 pieces of asian molded carbon fibers.
They do sell more budget friendly options
Haha, Ive always known its the RIDER, not the bike. I thought that was (not so) common sense. No bike, component or doodad can provide a rider with better fitness or skills. IGNORE marketing bullshit. Just know there's a sucker born every minute.
@@rollinrat4850 I’ve dropped a cyclist on a Pinarello Dogma F12 with Super Record 12 Speed EPS on my 48x17 fixie. I don’t know if he was just relaxing or on a recovery ride, we even had a lengthy conversation but I told him I gotta go and go fast to get that max speed for Strava.
PS I’m riding a fixie not because I want to be cool though. I’m just flat out broke and can only afford one gear
@@Qwerty-fy6fx Funny you mention that. My most often used bike is a heavy duty old steel fixed gear 'cross bike. This is what I use for local mtb trails and commuting. I'll even do fixed centuries a couple time a year. Its more fun than should be legal. Its ultra reliable and almost unbreakable. Ive been trying! I'm a retired aerospace machinist. Ive helped build carbon stuff that flies in space. I now wrench part time in a high end bike shop for fun and laughs. I can afford just about any new bike I'd want. I can get them near cost. I don't buy any new tech, carbon JUNK, electronics, infernal routing or road discs. That junk is merely job security for those like me. I know exactly how truly high end stuff should be manufactured and inspected. Production Bicycles are not inspected very well or at all! Quality control is either a joke or mere lip service in the bicycle industry. Nobody is fooling me! I know this from experience. I've also worked as a mechanical inspector for several years. I helped build some of the highest quality machinery on this earth.
Ive got several really nice custom hand built bikes (mostly brazed steel) with derailleurs, even some disc brakes, some suspension, yada, yada..... These are used for long epics, big mountains and long distance touring, but my simple fixed gear is what I choose to ride most often. lt makes ME hurt and work harder. Its wicked and relentless training and builds real useful riding skills. I used to train this way as a road racer in the '80s, so this is no passing fad for me.
Singlespeeds,
(but especially fixed) force one to deal with their human weaknesses. A bicycle is a very simple machine, or it ought to be! It goes nowhere without the rider motivating it. Its the rider, not the bike!
I raced pro in the 1980's and my custom steel bike used Super Record because it was the best bearings in the world, and I did not trust the crank arm strength of any other manufacturer. When I placed the bike on a rack the wheel would oscillate back and forth for about 15 minutes before stopping, I did not have to worry about bearing drag. And with downtube shifters I could shift just as well as the 2021 Super Record. Yes, just a simple cable without housing from lever to derailleur, and I could shift as many gears on the (freewheel then) as I wanted faster than todays 2021 Super Record. And I could do the rear shifting as well as front at the same time with one hand....it was called SHIFTING SKILL!! We removed all skill level and what was left was a mess of complexity and expense. My 1980's Campagnolo Super Record shifters were just two aluminum levers connected to a cable and it was BETTER than today's shifters of any brand...because of skill.
Same thing with a formula one car. 1988 McLaren mp4 didn't have paddle shifting in fact Senna didn't have paddles two of his 3 world championships and Hamilton thinks the cars today are harder to drive. When just about any rich joker off the street with nerve can compete I disagree.
Hamilton has been blessed with driving in the superior machine his whole career. Not to get off topic there.
#campagnolo clearly make STUNNINGLY SWEET, gruppo and wheelsets
I 'm a devoted #campagnolo user for over 20 + years
As a number of people posted already , their systems are very durable , reliable , rebuildable as well as STUNNINGLY looking and functional ‼😎
The shifting action provides a more tactile, solid and direct feel
Ergonomically, the shape and SHORTER length of shifter hoods , allow more infinite adjustments , especially with hydraulic brakes set up compared to the 2 " S " brands
The shorter hood length allows me to use a slightly longer stem , without affecting my reach
Both SRAM & SHIMANO systems are suberb in their own ways
How does the charging of the batteries work? I recall being put off by some weird charging scheme that was needed with the previous version of EPS. I'm still using mechanical SRAM red, but I am a Campy fan.
There's a charging cable that simply plugs into a port in the bar end, much like Di2
Nice review David but I could never justify the high price tag.
I’d like to buy an all-Italian high end road bike but with a mechanical group set.
What would be your recommendation?
Life is short!
Must enjoy the best of the best!
how would you compare super record eps with the new dura-ace 9200? the new super record wireless is a bit of a dealbreaker for me (gearing and bulky derailleurs).
I ride Campagnolo from 6sp to 11sp mechanical
Those are really cool socks you are wearing David, who makes them?
Note socks match the jersey too - very cool but not many people would notice
They’re new Sportful socks, there’s a link in the description 👍
You want something easy Accessi like the Ford or Chevys of groupset.. go with Shimano if you want Groupset that out performs any groupset. Campagnolo is the Ferrari of groupset that perform excellent .never had issues with Tune Ups smooth shifting. I still have 11 speed so happy the way it looks and perform .Hell I still have campagnolo Nuovo Record performs great after 50years later .let's see shimano or Sram can compete with that
I upgraded my Colnago factory-equipped with Shimano 105 groupset to Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12.
There is no comparison- the Campy is far, far better: more precise shifting and braking with lighter touches.
The money was well spent - if you spend that amount on an expensive frame, why not also spend the same amount on the components to get the full potential.
My shimano di2 has never failed me - goes through gears under load seamlessly and has been generally flawless after 30k miles -- i don’t understand how cycling companies keep charging these insane prices when other things priced reasonably work literally just as good -
is it because I never use any electronic groupset, but I prefer to have the shifting sounds on my bike (especially on those front derailleur) and in my opinion that sounds amazing🤣
I've continued to use Campy Record since 1986.
Are those disc rotors compatible with shimano? Ultegra specifically?
Yes. Brake rotors are interchangeable. Peak Torque is using Campag rotors with Shimano as he’s sick of Icetech rotors delaminating.
@@nstrug cheers. No lamination issues here, but the sharp rotors have scratched my chain stays taking the wheel on/off. The rounded edges of the campy rotors are a big plus
Good luck buying any groupset at the moment. The shelves are bare and the prices are sky high for what’s left.
I appreciate this video, but you don't really say why EPS is superior, apart from quicker gear shifts and prestige and a feeling. I've ridden both EPS and the new Red AXS etap, and I agree EPS is better, and the main reason is the deraileur motors feel stronger and smoother, and that is the main thing I look for in a group. Finally, the question is not if it is worth it to spend the extra money to buy EPS, but if it is worth not spending the money -- a few, six or seven, hundred dollars -- when you will be riding the group for 6, 7, 8 or even more years. Is saving a few hundred dollars worth it when you are on this bike day after day and you want the best ride and it is what you really love to do?
Campagnolo since ever: If you can't be the cheapest, be the most expensive!
I just bought exactly the same,only paintwork is a mat/black/green ,for 6300 euros...Brand new of course...
Campy is a good accompaniment to a Nissan Patrol Y61. The two are the perfect match. I hope the new Australian prime minister tomorrow has the guts to reintroduce the Y61 back to australia.
I prefer Shimano shifting, especially the ability to shift to a lower gear while using the rear brake. Difficult to do with other systems. But I wouldn't complain if someone gifted me Campy Record group.
I had a Bottecchia Typhoon (year 2012)with Campagnolo Veloce, unfortunately I sold the bike and bought a ROSE with a Shimano 105. I’m still sorry for the bike sold.
Why does the chainring have a "dirty" look? Is it the way light hits it?
Unidirectional carbon
I have never ridden campy but In the looks department it is lacking a lot considering it is "Italian" That crankset-spider-chainring combo, is not my cup of tea really, it looks very cheap. Both deraileurs are I guess fine
I have SRAM red and yes in my view the crankset looks better than the Campag
Without hesitation - if I had the money!
I highly doubt the opinion of EPS would be the same if the price was half what it is. That groupset and that bike, the whole thing looks like a $600 bike IMO. Maybe it looks better in person but its hard to see anyone turning a head for that bike.
You must be the only not to turn your head at a bianchi
@@Hugo-um8nh Come to Japan. They are common trash bikes.
@@kidShibuya I have never owned a Bianchi but their mid to higher end bikes are not trash... The understatted paint and logo's are to mind simple class but that is in the eye of the beholder... But it doesn't make a good or bad bike. How puerile you think the review would be different if EPS was less expensive ???
I'm new to modern bikes. Been riding in 1978 which bikes then were so much different than today. Just wondering though, this Italian bicycle Bianchi is priced at mid range Ducati like Monster, with the latter has tons of components more and could go about ten times faster. Well, as an old man who rode on bikes with gears that stick out on the handle bar and sometimes needed to spin the pedals backward a couple of cycles before the gear changed into place, I think bikes these days are much overpriced.
im searching for campi gc just because. and i watched a vid before this and notice, hey i saw this guy before. youre the same bloke who review it for another channel 4 years ago right?
I lost count of the times you said best. But it’s heavier.....best. But it’s expensive......best. Shift is as good as everyone else.......best. Team Inios have the budget to use the best and they do, based on tests.
SRAM is SLOW! So disappointed in the lag. Great to hear Campy is fast. Super Record is the way to go if you want electronic shifting that is ... electronic!
Crankset and rear mech look great but those hoods are hideous. I'm biased in having focussed on Dura Ace all the way back from 7500 to 9100 as my experience of Campag has not been great. As an aside, David, and please don't take this the wrong way, your reviews would be more balanced if you were less gushingly enthusiastic about everything............in some ways it is more important to hear about the niggles and downsides before lashing out that sort of money.
Interesting that a Shimano user would say other hoods are hideous! Shimano invented the concept of hideous hoods ....
you should pair them with WTO ultra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, impressive. But I prefer SRAM Double Tap systems.
What's the wheelset in the video?
Great video but let's face it the high end groups don't out perform the middle range groups and never last as long. I'll save my money.
nobody talks about how e shifters sometimes in the middle of a ride decide that you are riding in a wrong gear, and it shifts from big ring to a small one on a flat terain whilst riding 40+km/h... so you have to pull aside and using your phone reset the whole thing etc etc and more similar ghosts from the software... beautiful yes! worth the ride quality upgrade? not convinced...
That doesn't tally with my experience of any electronic groupset at all and sounds like some sort of weird technical issue you're having. What groupset is it you're using?
I am glad if that sort of thing is a rare anomaly, but within 2 weeks my buddy riding campa 12 super record had this happen twice, once it needed the software update in the middle of a ride, and other friend had a similar thing with dura ace di2 but with rear derailer. Both of them are totally happy with their equipment and enjoy riding it. But we also saw that happen in some races. For sure mechanic stuff has issues here and there but it would be naive thinking e-groups are perfect and with no bugs... I am sure someone is working on resolving those as we type... cheers! Great content btw. don't get me wrong for a bit of complaining 😁
Never had any problems (di2 user). I have had way more problems with mechanical gears over the years.
IMO all levels of Campagnolo looks better, shifting & comfort on the shifter hoods ( edit here ) those new hoods do look a bit tall/ fat tops!
to my mind SRAM has the most logical shifting setup, but I'm a lifelong Shimano user. I have never tried Campagnolo EPS but I don't like the look of the thumb shifters. Maybe they work OK.
They work great on my mech Record 11 group shift faster then anything else really
Having proper running 105 is more than enough for me as racing doesn't happen here😭
105 is perfectly fine for racing. Really, 105 is perfectly fine for everything you throw at it.
@@nielsebbesen3048 yup especially the current gen 105, and the parts are cheap (as long you able to find it). Just that it don't look cool in cafe ride😂😂
Spare the saving onto some kick ass frame. Like V3RS or C64 with 105
I love blowing by people with extremely expensive bikes.
Hit the gym a few times a week, the increased strength in your legs is 10x better then the best bike.
I just bought campy sr12 with fulcrum wind 40 from merlin for my parlee atlum and it’s the best groupset
I can care less for axs
And shimano has been late to the 12 speed game which made me sad
Campy 12 is awesome
OK, just bought a Pegoretti Round with Campagnolo EPS disc. Because I can.