Undertale Orchestrated - Heartache
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- After recently playing through Undertale (full pacifist run), I knew I had to orchestrate one of the tracks. It is amazing how toby fox was able to design, code, write, draw, and compose pretty much all of the game. And what's even more impressive is that toby fox's soundtrack is catchy, memorable, and puts lots of AAA composers to shame. Like seriously, I can barely recall any tune from any recent game off the top of my head except for Undertale. All composers should learn the lesson that melody trumps over any musical technical proficiency.
The Heartache track was the first moment in the game that convinced me I was in for something special. After being pampered by the motherly Toriel, the protagonist breaks her heart by insisting on leaving the ruins to return home. During this battle, the protagonist is essentially awakened, and is forced to stand up and fight for her survival. This mood of excitement tinged with an air of sadness is captured perfectly in the music.
In my arrangement, I kept the original version pretty intact, but with the instruments replaced with orchestral counterparts. The original track is already very fleshed out, with a catchy tune, varying rhythms, and an awesome bass line. The 6/8 time that toby fox uses is hard to describe, as it sometimes sounds like 3/4 and other times like 2/4, but it works pretty well. One thing that's hard to preserve is the snappiness and clearness you get from 8-bit sounds. It's really easy for an orchestra version to sound very muddy, as you can see from all those other orchestrated arrangements floating out there. I did my best playing lots of staccato and substituting group samples with solo instruments so that everything can still sound as clear as possible. I really wanted to preserve that bass line for its energy, so I listened to the original track at half speed and EQ'ed out all the other frequencies in order to copy it note for note. Then I brought it to the forefront of the track, having cellos, violas, violins, and flute all have a go at it. I was glad I had time to get used to using drumkits in my previous FFIV track. Here I used them in combination with timpanis to get that modern and classical hybrid sound.
In addition, as I usually like to do, I added a 3rd arc to the music, as I felt that together, the track would cover the entire arc of the protagonist's battle with Toriel. I used the theme that appears previously in Toriel's home as a kind of reminder of her compassion, and also the potential peaceful life that the protagonist chooses to reject. This injection of emotion is something that toby fox uses too in the end of the game with a similar melody, so I thought doing it here would be a good fit, almost like a "preview" of the entire story's arc. The end result sounds pretty fitting in both the "genocide" and "pacifist" version of the fight, both of which I've included in this video.
MP3 and FLAC available for Patrons. ► / thesecondnarrator
Includes both looped and non-looped versions.
Original Song composed by toby fox
Undertale is available on Steam
Toriel: Stop looking at me like that.
Frisk: -_-
Apart from satisfaction, what the hell do you gain from posting the same copied comment over and over again. This comment has been seen on most undertale vids. I mean, couldn’t you have at least posted something about the orchestration?
@@justcloggedthetoilet You may as well ask that to the other posters.
@@underton7474 But he's asking you so answer him
Coward...
@@justcloggedthetoilet calm down keyboard warrior.
@@Grimnoire Wow
* My expectations...
* My loneliness...
* My fear...
* For you, my child...
* I will put them aside.
Bro making me tear up 😭
This is the only version opf Heartache I've found that really brings forwards the 'epicness' of the song but also the emotion that comes with it which is something all the other orchestral versions of this song struggle to do so thank you :D
Also you should totally do to hopes and dreams/save the world because all the other versions of it in my opinion aren't that good tbh
@@brimbles4999 Well, the only version besides the original, I think.
In instrument choice, this is far better, but I dont think anyone will perfectly recreate the feel that the original track had.
First orchestral cover that makes it sound exactly as elegant yet powerful as I'd imagined it would. Many covers don't make it sound like a battle theme anymore, rather more of a peaceful track.
tl;dr: Pretty moist stuff here, kid.
ShoopDaWoosh I don’t like how other tracks just have string and woodwind and call it orchestral. Brass plays a role in this piece as well to create a heavier tone in parts of it
lmao i like how you did a tldr for two sentences
@@realta9477 Hey, reading's hard, I barely made it through your comment...
m o i s t
795 likes but 4 comments lol.
WHY ARE THEY HURTING GOAT MOM
SHE BAKED YOU A PIE YOU UNGRATEFUL FRICK
+Digital Screams did you even watch the entire thing
GKoopa Toriel was being attacked in the first part so I'm not wrong
just watch the damn vid were here for music not abusing goat lady
Personally, I think it's very important that someone actually attacks goat mom on their first go.
Think about it, she's the only enemy up until that point that seemed unsparable normally. So, you'd assume it's that normal trope about this whole "prove you're worthy" fight, that doesn't really mean anything.
But then, the game actually teaches you consequences, and flowey will mock you for killing her, remarking that you couldn't go back to prevent it.
But when you can, and you go back, it shows where Undertale really shines. Not only is the game self aware that you went back, but it also acts as though you're actually there, correcting a mistake.
"...Why are you looking at me like that? Like you've seen a ghost? Is there something you know that I do not?
No, that's impossible."
This is what makes Undertale great in my opinion. Not the pacifist approach, but the fact that you can go back to fix everything, and truly make the happy ending.
Undertale isn't just about pacifism you know. It's about discarding what you know about traditional RPG's. That there isn't any needless grinding.
But the game has to teach you to break this habit. Technically, fighting her isn't the wrong choice. As a matter of fact, I think it's the most important part.
It's the fact that you're able to learn from what happened before, and prevent it. You can go back at any time to change fate. The game references this so much, that unless you straight up cheesed it and went in a non blind run, you wouldn't get that part of the game.
Attacking monsters is an important part of the game's message. Even if it's to get you to stop attacking monsters.
Sagitarius04 Badum-Tss
So the in-game soundtrack is absolutely wonderful. If they ever make a movie it would be a crime to write a new OST. All that would be needed would be proper orchestral arrangements rather than chipbit soundtracks.
They would just need to approach you for the arrangements.
Actually, making a film from Undertale would be the real crime.
Raphaël Tran
What makes you say so? I'd love an Undertale movie, if it was done right.
Undertale is a game with a great game design which fully exploits the potential of a video game in term of interaction. No other media can transcribe what makes Undertale awesome i.e. the importance of your personnal choices.
So I'm saying that an Undertale movie simply can't be done right.
Raphaël Tran
The idea of choice, I agree, is huge, and what makes it so intelligent and revolutionary. Sure, taking that away from it in the form of a movie would, I agree, detract from the quality somewhat.
But it does have an excellent story, and fleshed-out characters, not to mention the potential for beautiful visuals. I still think it would work as a movie, just as a very different form of media. The idea of choice could still be worked into the script. It would lack the direct personal effect but it could still be expressed.
I indeed agree that there are elements from Undertale such as the characters that are really nice and do not need the video game form to be great, but I still think that the essence would be missing in a film (I actually do not see how you could insert an idea of choice in a script).
By the way, about the graphics, don't you think that "upgrading" them would break the mental image most people have of the universe?
I mean, Toby Fox proved with Undertale that visuals are not necessary to create a great piece of art, but thereby, changing them would change the way players perceive this world. By example, it would be very difficult to keep the androgynous appearance of Frisk.
0:36 to 0:38 - Toriel knows best for you.
Conclusive evidence that you should not hurt her.
when I HEARD the violin I was like; YES! YES! YES! YES! MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED SOMEONE FINALLY PUT VIOLIN IN THE FADE OUT PARTS!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This song is not Heartache.
This song is a masterpiece.
So that means Heartache isn't a masterpiece...
@@teraspeXt I would suppose so.
Its a song that you have to take to heart (ba dum pss) plz dont kill meh
DIO Brando
When did you turn cringe
@@hi-gc5lb *KACHIRA INTENSIFIES*
My ears are melting because this is honestly fantastic! Everything just blends perfectly with the choices in the instruments!
My ears are also melting! But I think it’s unrelated to the song
Damn, this is very well done. I particularly like how you added some drums at 1:27, though it's a small detail. An example of all the little details in the piece make it unique and awesome. And I liked how you extended the piece so well with the Home theme while still maintaining the energy and emotion of Heartache. Amazing.
+Talgoran thanks. glad you appreciate it
I like it too
Anyone notice that this was a loaded playthrough? That exclamation mark at the end of her speech shows you that this person killed Toriel before.
(I know no one cares, but just kinda noticed it :P)
Also, nice track.
Wow I didn't realize. That's so sad . . . Thank you.
Like you have seen a ghost.
...? She has many lines. Where in any of the lines does he have *!* (exclamation) mark?
@@hi-gc5lb pretty sure 3:49
I somehow held off on buying this game for a while despite hearing great things about it. But after hearing this arrangement, I immediately picked it up (game + soundtrack) and have no regrets. Thanks and awesome job!
On Undertale soundtrack on steam,its recommended sound card quality was; Sound Card That Makes The Music Sound Like A Live Orchestra Even Though It's Not
...Well, you made the music sound like orchestra.
Thank you.
2:32 ..ow... my feeling..
Even 4 years later this is hauntingly beautiful
This isn't goodbye, Mom- we'll see each other again.
This is remarkable. I wish you'd do orchestral recompositions of all the more popular undertale songs. Your work is the best I've seen by far as far as undertale remixes go.
I want to study that in music class.
SAME
Mioumi unfortunately all dreams can’t come true since some schools are garbage
Twitchy Llama Wow that’s pretty sweet!
Please orchestrate the whole soundtrack! Please! Yours is the best I've heard so far.
The sheer beauty of this orchestrated masterpiece... I teared up listening to it... It's just epic. It's amazing.
I could imagine a serious anime showdown with this music.
HA! YOU ALWAYS SAID ONE DAY I'D KILL YOU. DIDN'T BELIEVE YOURSELF, THOUGH, DIDYA? AT LEAST NOT THIS FAST!
*jumping all the way up into the sky, explosions of magic everywhere*
*more stereotypical anime shit*
if there's a character in undertale that literally combines anime and medieval
why is there not an anime for UT?
IT'S JUST COMMON SENSE.
this is basically if in undertale it was goku instead of frisk.
Colton Turner I agree pal and it would fit perfectly in a fire emblem game aswell I think
Goku isn't edgy enough to say that shit
*INTENSE SWORD FIGHTING*
*SCREAMS OF BLOODY MURDER*
*DEAD BODIES ALL AROUND*
*STEREOTYPICAL ANIME/FANTASY WARFARE*
It's so beautiful~ It's definitely the best out of all of the one's I've hear so far. And I've tried to find one beautifully orchestrated, thank you for the song~ I think you've captured the 'heartache' (Quite literally, my heart is aching in pain for Toriel). It's like you're telling Toriel's side of the story, rather than the protagonists side of the story, and I find that well written. Thank you again for the beautiful music~
Certainly one of the bestest ochestrations of undertale i've heard on youtube so far! You managed to keep the spirit of the original song while adding very good ideas in it (like the Once upon a time cameo), and the end result feels just as good as the original one! Just wonderful work man!
THIS IS ASRIEL AS IT GOATS I NEED A tuTORIEL NOW!!!!!!!
@@HyperGahner the first half is just as gore as I thought
guess you could say killing toriel "ruins" your reputation with sans
What's the voice-like instrument that plays throughout the song? Like an example is 0:36. It kind of sounds like a clarinet/oboe/bassoon.
i believe that's a bassoon. I maybe have also layered an oboe/english horn with it too
Thank you! This sounds absolutely amazing by the way. So much emotion and realism, i love it!
WHY ARE ALL OF YOUR SONGS SO AMAZING
Hey, +The Second Narrator, I have a couple of questions for you! First of all, how do you make your music? Do you have a sound library, and if so, which one do you use? If not, do you record each individual part yourself, do you have some friends play some of the parts, or do you actually have your own orchestra? However you do it, it sounds like the real deal! And one not thing: why is your username the second narrator? Is it supposed to be a play on how background music can be used as a sort of "second narrator," portraying the emotions of the characters indirectly?
I use Presonus Studio One as my DAW, and I have a bunch of sound libraries. you can check out a list of them at thesecondnarrator.com. my music is pretty much all virtual. and as for my name the second narrator, you're pretty much right on the dot. you word it in some ways better than i describe it!
+The Second Narrator Thanks! Also, I had no idea you had a website. I'll definitely check that out!
+The Second Narrator, I absolutely love your name! That's brilliant. I always loved how fantastic soundtracks can move you, and engage you in the best parts of a game. Thanks, Guy ultimatecyberdog for helping me understand The Second Narrator's name
The Second Narrator dude. you have some real talent doing this. I just want you to keep doing it. ok?
I may have found you through your Deltarune covers, but wow, it was worth going back and diving into your Undertale covers, they're something else. You have such genius artistic interpretations of these songs, turning them the most out of any Undertale orchestral covers into full blown movie scores. I feel like I'm sitting in a concert, visualizing an entire story taking place before my eyes. It wouldn't have mattered if I'd never heard of Undertale, I would still be able to feel the conflict, and pain, and heartache all flying from the music.
Each separate chorus of Heartache feels different from the last, filled with more emotion, boiling over to a new degree. It's genuinely impressive how well percussion and scoring like this is done without using instruments of more African or Brazilian origin, there's a feeling of pulsing war drums to it that never goes away, even when there's flutes carrying the melody and it's just the low strings maintaining that pulse.
Oh and don't even get me started on the Once Upon a Time section, it slid into the bridge so easily that I didn't even realize what was happening at first until the entire mountain hit me. Such a bittersweet moment for the piece, before diving right back into the most determined and heroic of the choruses, while Once Upon a Time maintains is message in the low brass below the melody.
What a beautiful piece, and honestly I think it's now my favorite of your Undertale covers, somehow even more than Asgore, despite me much preferring that song in Undertale! I think something about the more warmer and openly furious tone of Heartache vs. the (albeit thematically fitting) more withdrawn emotional core and war-like tone of Asgore contributed to it. Heartache just feels so much more raw, you know?
Your orchestrated versions of these songs on your channel are hands down the best I've ever heard, and I listen to a LOT of versions. Definitely subscribed without a doubt.
I made a Undertale battle screen themed level in smash bros brawl. I put a time of 7:00 and played Ness (frisk) and fought Peach (Toriel). I turned the volume all the way on sound and none on music and played this in the background and it flowed perfectly. When the battle ended there was still some music left. It ended at the end of the win animation. Best. Undertale. Fight. In. Brawl. Ever.
Can I dislike this? No... that is impossible. Fantastic orchestration. :D
2:28 That epic movie feeling
This gave me goosebumps, the great kind. I love the fallen down reference as well
How am I just finding your channel?!? I swear I will listen to all of your orchestrations no matter the genre!
Yours is the best version of Heartache out there
2:46 reminded me of Zelda Wind Waker.
2:57 Goosebumps
This is extremely underrated. Why aren't there a million views yet?
That was beautiful, how you weaved Home into the song towards the middle and end.
STAHP HITTING TORIEL!!! D:
am i the obly one who not had moral problems at genocide, or killing Toriel?
Bruno Fernando Hoffmann de Castro Neves probably not
+Bruno Fernando “Corndog” Hoffmann de Castro Neves No. Most people who aren't psychopaths do.
I guess it helps to be immersed into it. If all you see Undertale as is just a video game, then it won't have much of an impact on you and the game itself sort of points that out when you do certain things in it (part of why I think it's brilliant but whatever). Though that's true with basically anything you experience whether it's reading a good book, watching a good movie, etc.
Bruno sociopath detected. Game or not, if you literally had no regret then you've got problems
I L O V E unused content in video games because of how interesting it usually is.So hearing this just makes me so happy!I hope we get to see more unused content in the future!
Why tf is a comment from a dark deception video in here?
It feels like yesterday I was in middle school writing lyrics for my favorite Undertale songs. As time continues to accelerate, my time with the fanbase will be nothing more than a burning memory...
*"Come here, I just wanna talk"*
_-Your Mom handling tight a slipper_
I legitimately got chills
this vid was the first time i saw a playthrough with no commentary or youtubers to make it funny... watching toriel's text on the screen and her expression on her face made it seem real ... worth meaning like you really do kill someone. it made me cry .
One of the songs I always listen to while I draw, great work! :D
Reading the comments..
"Don't hurt goat woman!"
1. She said prove yer strength
2. Play the game how you wanna play it xd
god THANK YOU for understanding
It's probably just a joke.
In the pacifist run, she is a representation of a mom. L:
Though I get where you are coming from. ( Lmao)
i killed toriel as a form of catharsis to vent an entire lifetime worth of rage toward my own mother.
@@ltloxa1159 they both are obsessed with keeping me from ever leaving despite me being more likely to survive if i leave, and they have both set their own child on fire
@@alexanderleonardi3625 Thats deprerius
This is absolutely fantastic. It keeps everything, adds some for good effect, and the sounds are brilliant. This is the most amazing rearrangement of anything I’ve ever heard.
It has been more than a year since this damn game came out and I still teared up over this
Your orchestration is amazing. YOUR ANALYSIS AND IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION DID IT FOR ME OH MY GOD. I am (excitedly) flipping tables right now god you are just freaking amazing
In my opinion, this is easily the best arrangement of "Heartache" that I've heard. Serious props to you. You've earned yourself another subscriber.
If we have an Undertale movie and this is not the soundtrack I am going to be very mad because this is movie quality stuff. This is so good.
Great choice if instruments! If they made an undertale movie this would be the heartache of want in it.
You listene that sound? Yes, it's the broken heart of a mother
I was reading your whole description and the whole time I was thinking, "no. omg. just. stop. stop. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS. HOOWWWWWW ARE YOU SO IN TUNE TO ALL THESE DETAILS; STOP, YOU AMAZING PERSON o A o"
I have no clue why, but this song makes me think of some sort of dramatic christmas music
Currently working on a cover of heartache myself, and I found some of the things you mentioned in the description quite useful. Out of curiosity, what software did you use to compose this cover?
When I turn up orchestral music I start to cry...and I did.
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR ORCHESTRA COVERS! THIS IS MAGNIFICENT!!!
Best orchestration of an undertale song ever
Awesome work, dude. Makes me picture an intense duel between two Spaniard knights.
I cant believe u don't have 10,000
subs by now u deverse it
Loved the detailed explanation. You've earned a suscriber my friend. Hope you get more n.n
Haha, no way! First Links Awakening, now this. You're phenomenal man, can't wait to hear it all.
This is way under-rated. My favorite of the Heartache orchestral covers.
NOOOOO DONT KILL GOAT MAMA!!!
YES DONT KILL GOAT MAMA
I KILL HER, AND YOU CANT STOP ME MUAAHAHAHAHAHAHA (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
@@Swetysik Sans: DO YOU WANNA HAVE BAD TIME? *MEGALOVANIA INTENSIFIES*
@@oseasmarquez5170 me who has beaten sans: yes
I killed her by accident and then reset the game. Flowey's dialogue afterwards was terrifying.
if i had to choose a favorite heartache orchestration, it would probably be this one because out of all of them, this one sounds the best fitting and the most mournful sound to it- i absolutely love this ;;w;;
i cant stop myself i just have to listen to this song every single day!
Very intense but manages to convey a little bit of sadness. Great use of guitar and percussion. That's a 10.
This is one of the best orchestrated tracks i have ever heard!!!!!!!! so meticulous and amazing!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing job guys!!!!!!!!!
this is so AMAZING!!, this version sounds very epic and now stole my soul
you did a great job!!
After playing in a band back in high school, I really want to say that I am rather impressed and that you are likely going to get a new Patreon supporter solely for this piece, because I think this is utterly phenomenal and I wish more musicians/composers offered downloads of their music for such things whether free or not, because I would love to be able to listen to them without the need for youtube. I played this game only recently as I decided to finally inspect after all the hype, it very easily hit my #1 game slot where Portal 2 sat forever.
So I applaud thee on this piece and hope to see more orchestral works from you. [I am sucker for good, epic sounding music.]
I wonder how this would sound with some Pokemon sound fonts? (Maybe Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald sound fonts?)
You know a song is good when it gives you nostalgia, not about the game, but the song itself.
Toriel is the hardest boss to kill. Not because she is strong but because she is your mom. I killed her on my first playthrough because I was an idiot who didnt understand why I couldnt spare her like the froggits (who I beat within an inch of their lives to spare) or undyne and got the mettaton ending.
It always breaks my heart whenever anyone kills Toriel.
Idk she kinda deserved it. She tried to keep you with her forever and then she knew what asgore was doing but did nothing. Pretty much the only reason I do genocide so much is because they all do deserve to die. Asgore was obviously gonna try to destroy humanity, Undyne was following Asgore, Papryus was following undyne, sans sat there and watched everything happen, flowey and asriel are pretty obvious, alphys lied like hell.
@@gorilla5558 well your profile name doesn't lie
This song really really, fills me with Determination, Tears And Determination
Will you rearrange these as well?
-Bergentrücking / Asgore
-Battle Against a True Hero
+M_Dutch97 i'm taking into account what everyone's requesting. hopefully sometime soon
+The Second Narrator
Nice! May I ask which tracks you're working on at the moment?
This is a super beautiful rendition
IM GOING TO CRY THIS IS GREAT
i- just- WOW. This gave me shivers it was so good
Your Undertale songs are amazing! This orchestration is so rich and beautiful!
THIS IS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD. You were born to do this. I really loved this. I would love to hear Waterfall, Megalovania or Spear of Justice! I'm sure you would do an amazing job with those :)
this is beautiful.
freken fantastic! this music fills me with determination!
Goddammit I'm crying at the ending of this vid. ;_;
I've already seen it but the music just makes the hurt fresh.
I look forward to the rest of the Undertale soundtrack, The Second Narrator! I like to use your music in my D&D games and its usually quite fitting.
It's like watching an epic anime battle! Good job!!!!
deserves more subs this is beautiful
easily the best orchestrated version around.
Hi! I guess I'm a bit late to the party, but I was wondering if it was possible for me to use this in an animation I might begin working on within the next month or so? It's...really beautiful. Stunning. You made an already AWESOME track even better imo. Many orchestral remakes I've seen take away from the piece but yours definitely doesn't. Great job, seriously!
sure. just credit me somewhere!
I KNEW THIS WOULD FIT ORCHESTRAL SO MUCH
I felt sorrow listening to this. I can't stop thinking of toriel getting news of each child's death And her heart slowly breaking in a...Heartache hAHAHAA...bad puns. But seriously this is simply amazing I can't get over how well...Heartfelt it is.
fantastic job dude truly great composition
Oh ho ho ho ho, I can wait when you get to the juicy tracks like "Your Best Nightmare" or "SAVE the World"~
*****
Yeesh, that does sound horrible
+MetalPcAngel I wouldn't even know where to begin if I were to orchestrate "Your Best Nightmare," Save the World might work though...
+The Second Narrator
Just whack random music instruments together while someone plays guitar.
+The Second Narrator dude I'd love to hear your rendition of save the world. I haven't been able to find any orchestral covers of it with the same level of quality as your covers.
Why does this song make my Heartache?
Because it's too *goat*
I'm smiling and I hate it.
@@Yoyo-ey Is it a pity smile?
This is so beautiful, but...
y u kill goat mama ;-;
Absolutely beautiful!
a perfect remix of a perfect song!