Lost Video Games That Were Found

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  • Опубліковано 20 тра 2022
  • This video is a wild ride, so sit back, strap yourself in, and enjoy.
    Every now and then a little gaming miracle happens; lost video games are found and preserved for all to enjoy. Today we're looking at several cases of lost games, why they were cancelled, and how they were found, including Super Mario 64 Disk Version, Nuclear Rush and the SEGA VR, as well as The California Raisins and Bio Force Ape for the NES.
    Support Video Game Preservation!
    gamehistory.org/donate/
    / gamingalexandria
    / forestillusion
    Special Thanks: Daniel Lynch, Kenneth Hurley, Kevin McGrath, Marc Erikson, Rich Whitehouse, Ethan Johnson, Jeremy Smith, Frank Cifaldi, and CRV.
    Research/Writing by Dylan Mansfield
    Video Editing by TheCartoonGamer
    Voice Over by Rezrospect @Rezrospect
    Sources/Further Reading:
    Jimmy130. “Photos 64DD : Super Mario 64 Disk Version.” Gamekult, 14 June 2014, web.archive.org/web/201407011.... Accessed 1 May 2022.
    Jimmy130. “Super Mario 64 Disk Version - Les informations.” Gamekult, 24 June 2014, web.archive.org/web/201407181.... Accessed 1 May 2022.
    Lynch, Daniel. Personal Interview. 29 November 2020.
    Pesce, Mark. “Learning from History: How to make VR bigger than the Web.” GHVR, 27 June 2016, / tc-shanghai-2016 . Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Hurley, Kenneth. Personal Interview. 6 July 2020.
    Horowitz, Ken. “Interview: Kevin McGrath (Electronic Arts Programmer).” Sega-16, 1 February 2005, www.sega-16.com/2005/02/inter.... Accessed 25 April 2022
    “Heavy Equipment.” Sega Visions Magazine, August/September 1993, pp. 92-95.
    Robson, Wayde. “WARNING: 3D Video Hazardous to Your Health.” Audioholics, 25 June 2010, www.audioholics.com/editorial.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Whitehouse, Rich. “Sega VR Revived: Emulating An Unreleased Genesis Accessory.” The Video Game History Foundation, 20 November 2020, gamehistory.org/segavr/. Accessed 25 April 2022.
    “Adventures In The Magic Kingdom And The California Raisins Game.” Nintendo Power Magazine, November/December 1989, p. 95.
    Cifaldi, Frank. “Spotlight: California Raisins.” Lost Levels, 25 August 2003, www.lostlevels.org/200308/2003.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Johnson, Ethan. Interview with Rod Nakamoto. 9 October 2018.
    Lundrigan, Jeff. “Nintendo Game of the Month: The California Raisins.” Game Player’s Magazine, January 1991, pp. 64-69.
    Smith, Jeremy. Personal Interview. 14 April 2022.
    Banks, Mike. “California Raisins (Unreleased, Nintendo Entertainment System)” NintendoPlayer, 21 January 2003, www.nintendoplayer.com/unrelea.... Accessed 25 April 2022.
    Cowan, Danny. “Spotlight: Bio Force Ape.” Lost Levels, www.lostlevels.org/bio-force-ape/. Accessed 25 April 2022.
    CRV. Interview with Chuck Vowell. 2010.
    Meston, Zack. “Proto Patrol: Bio Farce Ape.” Video Game Collector Magazine, Spring 2006, p. 10.

    #SuperMario64 #BioForceApe #CaliforniaRaisins #SegaVR #SuperMario #Mario #SEGA #Nintendo #Capcom
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  • @DidYouKnowGamin
    @DidYouKnowGamin  2 роки тому +188

    If you're interested in video game preservation and want to help, here are some groups that are actively working to preserve lost video games:
    gamehistory.org/donate/
    www.patreon.com/gamingalexandria
    www.patreon.com/forestillusion

    • @Robinhoodie160
      @Robinhoodie160 2 роки тому +1

      booty

    • @kailiahseekings
      @kailiahseekings 2 роки тому +4

      I want a game about cooking steak.

    • @lilbill7385
      @lilbill7385 2 роки тому +2

      I once heard about this lost nes game and I can’t remember it’s name. A guy once had it and several people wanted to buy it from him. He then destroyed it and posted a photo of it.
      Edit: it’s called bioforce ape

    • @lilbill7385
      @lilbill7385 2 роки тому +1

      @@kailiahseekings you’ll love cooking mama

    • @Vulpas
      @Vulpas 2 роки тому +1

      18:09 A gay diaper wearing monkey saving his "family". Amazing.

  • @SuperiorGothBun
    @SuperiorGothBun 2 роки тому +1959

    The story about the California Raisins prototype is nuts. Starting out with being given to a retro gamer worker after someone's kid wanted an xbox, to the poor guy losing his life over an unfortunate argument. Brandon Murphy could have easily sold it for thousands, but knew something like it deserved to be shared with the world rather than held hostage for the sake of value. Dude will forever be a legend

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim 2 роки тому +186

      sadly not all lost games are that lucky. There is a copy of the Resident evil 1.5 (the 80% build) that was found. The collector refuses to sell it or even dump it. So instead we have the 40% that was obtained that people are trying to rebuild.

    • @Pacmanfan-po9rn
      @Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 роки тому

      @@benvictim hope someone steals it from the wanker

    • @Rihcterwilker
      @Rihcterwilker 2 роки тому +16

      @@benvictim is there any footage of that?

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim 2 роки тому +13

      @@Rihcterwilker of the 40% build being remade? Yeah lots.

    • @gaylordfocker7990
      @gaylordfocker7990 2 роки тому +25

      You have a really poor definition of legend. It was just a random dude who got lucky and came across something rare.
      You nerds are calling people who buy things legends? Stop.

  • @sehtuk3953
    @sehtuk3953 2 роки тому +550

    It's wild to think that the Crazy Raisins game would still be lost today if the kid it was meant to go to hadn't gotten an XBOX. Really makes you think about how many lost or valuable prototypes are just lying around with people who have no idea about what they own.

    • @secretjazz93
      @secretjazz93 2 роки тому +49

      yo I once bought Mario Paint with the original Box, Mouse and Mousepad at a flea marked for 6 bux. pretty sure the woman who sold it had no idea what it was and how much it was worth. I ended up giving her my last 5 bucks, which is a pretty sweet deal, everything worked perfectly and looked really new. stuff like that happens all the time if you only care to look hard enough

    • @sheshin
      @sheshin 2 роки тому +26

      Yeah man, sometimes you get maybe not prototypes but some insane deals, a few years ago i got an OG Diablo 2 Battlechest CIB with the guide books, LoD expansion and the battlenet codes still unused (well unsued until i tried them expecting a “code already claimed” message but instead i got diablo 2 on a friend’s account) and everything like it was never touched on a flea market, i paid 2 bucks

    • @johnnykage4179
      @johnnykage4179 2 роки тому +17

      I paid 5 bucks for a box with over 100 NES games and sold them for over 1000 bucks thanks to copies of festers quest and others. I also came across copies of Spiderman Carnage on Sega complete in "like new" conditiom for 2 bucks a piece. Its insane how much good stuff is just lying around for a few bucks.

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 2 роки тому +16

      I've never come across a prototype sadly, but I did once buy a 'not for release' promotional copy of a game (i.e. sent to reviewers ahead of release) from an auction for next to nothing

    • @agentorangecb1
      @agentorangecb1 2 роки тому

      You're all horrible people exploiting others for your own profit

  • @DYKG_Clips
    @DYKG_Clips 2 роки тому +745

    That Bio Force Ape story was a wild ride.

    • @jgstrider
      @jgstrider 2 роки тому +33

      I know right? Totally bananas.

    • @Daniel_Coffman
      @Daniel_Coffman 2 роки тому

      I'm not terribly surprised that people went ape after seeing the smashed cartridge. Little did anyone know that he was just monkeying around.
      I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking of cracking puns, lol.

    • @StriderVM
      @StriderVM 2 роки тому +19

      I was there when it happened as a lurker. The salt and drama was legendary. It was almost as bad as the RE1.5 Playstation Museum drama.

    • @Stratelier
      @Stratelier 2 роки тому +29

      Not to mention that footage -- we're talking _Sonic the Hedgehog_ levels of scrolling speed in all directions, on an 8-bit platform with only two screens' worth of VRAM.

    • @adamk8639
      @adamk8639 2 роки тому +4

      The game looks insane. Like it seems almost beyond SNES level in regards to speed and the moves and stuff.

  • @TheCartoonGamer8000
    @TheCartoonGamer8000 2 роки тому +557

    I learned more about the California Raisins editing this video than I ever knew prior.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 2 роки тому +22

      You did good, bro. The style reminds me of old school Screw Attack and YT videos. I miss that era of internet videos. BTW, I remember looking at old consoles and wondering what the connection ports were for.

    • @marscaleb
      @marscaleb 2 роки тому +16

      Here's something more you can learn about the California Raisins!
      During the production of Back to the Future, a shady marketing guy landed a deal to promote the Raisins in said movie by promising them that "this movie would do for California Raisins what ET did for Reece's Pieces." The deal was largely unknown to the director, Robert Zemeckis. He wasn't informed until late in production that he was supposed to add a promotion to the film. Ultimately, an ad for the California Raisins was placed on the bench a hobo is seen sleeping on near the end of the movie, and that was it.
      Both Robert Zemeckis and the California Rasins Advisory Board were very unhappy with the deal, and since then Zemeckis has avoided having any product promotions in his movies.

    • @PyroSharkGod
      @PyroSharkGod 2 роки тому +1

      Great vid brother 🔥

    • @JeremySmith-pw3uh
      @JeremySmith-pw3uh 2 роки тому +1

      Great work! I’m glad to now know the real reason the game was canceled.

    • @reinforcedpenisstem
      @reinforcedpenisstem 2 роки тому

      That's how learning occurs usually, it increases, not decreases.

  • @Dr0dd
    @Dr0dd 2 роки тому +397

    That raisins story ended on a really bad note.
    Also insane to think that collectors would drop out just because a game has been released yet as if that makes it more valuable solely.

    • @StriderVM
      @StriderVM 2 роки тому +50

      Actually thats one of bad sides (IMO) they're more like speculators than collectors, having the only real copy (digital or otherwise) would push the value so much it could turn into tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars on offers alone. So having a digital rom copy immediately drops its value as its mystique as something unseen is immediately gone.

    • @stevenwhuntva
      @stevenwhuntva 2 роки тому +63

      The dumbest ones are the ones who buy an undumped cart and then refuse to dump it unless they "recoup their losses" for buying the cart via donations. Like. no buddy, you spent your money willingly and you knew what you were getting into. You "lost" nothing. Note that I don't mean donations to acquire the item like with Bio Force Ape; they'd always had the cart in-hand before.
      I haven't seen that in a while but I remember some dudes doing that with Genesis carts like 15 years ago.

    • @bloodeagle6458
      @bloodeagle6458 2 роки тому +7

      Ya a real gamer would always let everyone play it there's no point onto holding it back unless pure greed and naro vision

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 2 роки тому

      @@stevenwhuntva , if anyone deserves to die, it should be those ass wipes, and not people like Brandon Murphy. Dollars to doughnuts, Capcom probably paid the people that offed Mr. Murphy to off him, as that would open up some bad press that they did not need.

    • @Viper-py4pg
      @Viper-py4pg 2 роки тому

      @@stevenwhuntva Wow what an awful perspective to have, with genesis carts of all things too like its not that serious dog. You're 100% right! They chose to spend their money, now we have to pay you to not be selfish? FOH

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 2 роки тому +204

    I started thinking "Huh a raisin game, neat" but now? I can only salute Brandon Murphys kindness and lament his short-lived life due to those bastards.

  • @Cyber_Akuma
    @Cyber_Akuma 2 роки тому +116

    The one about the California Raisons is depressing all around. From how such a special game was canned by Capcom over something as silly as "It was not made in Japan", to how the collectors clearly just wanted it to keep in a collection and never let the public experience it considering how the offers dropped as soon as he released the ROM, to the horrible way Brandon Murphy was killed at such a young age by a roomate over just some stupid money and possessions.

    • @bad_atgames
      @bad_atgames Рік тому +21

      He literally died for nothing. It genuinely broke my heart to hear that bit of the video. RIP a real one and I'm very much thankful for his contribution to game preservation.

    • @curleed85
      @curleed85 5 місяців тому +1

      When you think about it, Capcom did not have a legit reason for canceling that game. And you know something? Perhaps if they hadn’t done so, maybe that collector would still be around. Whatever the case, it was tragic to have heard about what happened.

  • @axelprino
    @axelprino 2 роки тому +230

    Bio Force Ape looks like one of those impossible games, how on earth did they squeeze that much speed on a smooth scrolling game on the NES? And that character animation is way beyond what I'd normally expect from that console.

    • @Dr0dd
      @Dr0dd 2 роки тому +31

      the character animations remind me of the Prince of Persia sprites in how smooth and rotoscoped it looks

    • @RazorEdge2006
      @RazorEdge2006 2 роки тому +5

      Maybe the game was designed for an enhancement chip? I doubt the base NES hardware could handle the fast multi-directional scrolling on display here. But with an enhancement chip, fast multi-directional scrolling is possible on the NES.

    • @axelprino
      @axelprino 2 роки тому +19

      @@RazorEdge2006 at that point in time it's almost certain that it used one of the enhancement chips, but even then it's pretty impressive. A game like Super Mario Bros 3 was capable of doing multi directional scrolling and was a technical showcase but the speed of Bio Force Ape is just bonkers, it's the kinda stuff I'd expect from the Genesis or SNES.

    • @zenkim6709
      @zenkim6709 Рік тому +6

      @@Dr0dd ... if I remember correctly, Seta would later develop a title for the SNES, "Nosferatu"
      ...an impressive game which played like Prince Of Persia as a sidescrolling brawler w/ platforming & puzzle-solving elements done in a Gothic horror style & theme, tho sadly it doesn't seem to have made as big of a splash as it should have.
      This further supports the appearance of Seta being auteurs within the gaming industry, focusing on both technical brilliance & artistic quality in their work.

    • @joemamr710
      @joemamr710 Рік тому +3

      The rom has been dumped, we already know for a fact it uses no enhancement chips and only contains a standard MMC3 mapper.

  • @trash9351
    @trash9351 2 роки тому +46

    that uh, raisins segment took a pretty dark and sharp turn my god

    • @lanewright1143
      @lanewright1143 Рік тому +3

      I know! Holy shit. Took a left turn and kept going.

  • @Mystemo
    @Mystemo 2 роки тому +630

    The people saving these unreleased prototypes are my heroes, the people who buy them and refuse to let them be dumped are the scum of the earth.

    • @Mugiwara2k
      @Mugiwara2k 2 роки тому +32

      I could not agree more

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna 2 роки тому +55

      That's why they're butter golems

    • @smileprettymusic
      @smileprettymusic 2 роки тому +5

      I disagree, dumping it reduces the value of it, they are just protecting their assets

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 2 роки тому +109

      @@smileprettymusic lmao how is it an asset? You know, game cartridges don't last forever and are prone to degradation right? Whereas a ROM file can last for generations, why do you think we have retro rereleases all the time?

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna 2 роки тому +57

      @@smileprettymusic I smell butter

  • @matthewbertrand4139
    @matthewbertrand4139 2 роки тому +341

    ugh. those people who wanted to buy the California Raisins prototype to be the only ones to have it and not release it for documentation make me absolutely sick. if you're collecting rare and unreleased games with the intention of showing them off to friends like a strutting peacock and keeping them away from everyone else, you're in it for the wrong reasons. collect something whose history isn't as important if you want to actively hinder its preservation.

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 2 роки тому +24

      Literally all historical collectors. The fact that it doesn't happen more with video game history is the anomoly.

    • @unbekannt1269
      @unbekannt1269 2 роки тому +2

      @@marti5420 bs

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 2 роки тому +7

      @@unbekannt1269 explain how putting historically valued items in to a private collection doesn't hinder preservation?

    • @crudojoshuaricofort8795
      @crudojoshuaricofort8795 2 роки тому

      @@marti5420 its different with other historical items. For games, the best way to preserve them is make them accessible using newer hardware. For ancient pieces that are so fragile you need to keep then inside glass to preserve its value else it will just turn to dust. Video games need to be shared to be preserved, ancient historical artifacts need to be kept untouched to be preserved. Some historical pieces can also only be preserved by a handful of professionals whose work consists of very specialized processes that cant be given to just an ordinary joe.

    • @marti5420
      @marti5420 2 роки тому +8

      @@crudojoshuaricofort8795 so you're telling me that buying a "lost game," putting it in to a private collection and not sharing it with the world would be a bad thing? The thing I've literally been saying the entire time? No way! 🙀
      and yes it's the same with historical pieces, historical pieces belong in museum collections to be shared with the world, not in private collections to be hoarded and potentially mistreat. You're literally same the exact same thing as I am in different words.

  • @choo_choo_
    @choo_choo_ 2 роки тому +90

    Jesus, seeing Bio Force Ape in action is unreal. The thing looks and runs like a modern-day indie game you could get on Steam, even down to the gamefeel. I kept waiting to hear that the footage was just a recreation, but the truth is even stranger than fiction. How the hell did they get that running so fluidly and dynamically on NES hardware?

  • @TheDominusIgnis
    @TheDominusIgnis 2 роки тому +147

    Its funny you mentioned this as in a community I'm in we had the prototype to the cancelled Battlebots video game finally posted online after nearly 20 years being lost media. I played it and it's actually mostly playable, finding lost video games is truly a wonderful thing :)

  • @princegoatcheese9379
    @princegoatcheese9379 2 роки тому +38

    Bless the souls of those who chose to preserve these lost games rather than take the money and let then sit on a shelf forever.

  • @alanu4637
    @alanu4637 2 роки тому +62

    I remember the murder, it was a huge deal. I actually worked with Angus as a server at Perkins on San Jose Blvd in Jacksonville when all that happened. I wasn’t close with him but there was definitely something off about him, something just didn’t feel right about him even before everything.

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 2 роки тому +133

    Cancelled and unreleased games being unearthed invokes a special feeling to the game, regardless of the game's actual quality.

  • @JakeRanney
    @JakeRanney 2 роки тому +41

    It's becoming all too common of an occurrence for my beloved hometown of Jacksonville, FL to be mentioned somewhere and I get excited, only for the story to take a horribly dark turn.

    • @Jazz-nu4fz
      @Jazz-nu4fz 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, same

    • @TyphinHoofbun
      @TyphinHoofbun Рік тому +1

      Can confirm, am also from Jacksonville, FL. There really is never any good stories from there, is there?

  • @aisadal2521
    @aisadal2521 2 роки тому +73

    The dedication and euphoria people have whenever something new is unearthed never gets old 🥰

  • @nevadaxelizabeth
    @nevadaxelizabeth 2 роки тому +8

    something i always liked about Bio Force Ape was the care with the animations coupled with the insane scrolling speed. the character crouches on the platform going up, and the hair flutters, gives a superb sense of speed going on, like hes actually withdstanding the force of the air as the platform goes up.

  • @Zuhukanah
    @Zuhukanah 2 роки тому +28

    It's a shame Bio Force Ape never got released considering what a technical marvel it would have been. If it had more direction in the design department and released it probably would have been revolutionary.

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS Рік тому

      Would have? It still is. Games like I, Robot were innovative, but went unnoticed. Games that innovate aren't always given the attention they deserve.

    • @MegaZeta
      @MegaZeta Рік тому

      @PiroKUSS By definition, an innovative game that does not by itself start a revolution in design is not "revolutionary". The original comment had it right.

  • @CaptainKreepingDeath
    @CaptainKreepingDeath 2 роки тому +152

    The thought of the private collectors who enshrine prototypes like these and never release them fills me with a kind of rage I can't entirely understand. Absolute scumbags

    • @lonelykitchen
      @lonelykitchen 2 роки тому

      pirates like you that think games should be ripped so pirates can emulate it for free are far worse.

    • @crappyatlife
      @crappyatlife 2 роки тому +5

      It's a video game. Touch grass

    • @CaptainKreepingDeath
      @CaptainKreepingDeath 2 роки тому +32

      Found one

    • @ExtremeWreck
      @ExtremeWreck 2 роки тому

      Yeah those stupid private collectors should seriously consider touching grass at some point. Heck, I think they mostly just play League of Legends with their obese-looking ahh.

    • @crappyatlife
      @crappyatlife 2 роки тому

      @@CaptainKreepingDeath man child

  • @cabbusses
    @cabbusses 2 роки тому +14

    Some other "lost" games that were recovered with comparable stories:
    SFC/Satellaview - Cooly Skunk (technically most things that were on Satellaview are like this, but Cooly Skunk is especially notable for it being a canceled retail release)
    Genesis - Akira
    Game Boy Color - Resident Evil
    Playstation - Clayfighter Extreme
    Famicom Disk System - Aliens
    Dreamcast - Propeller Arena
    This can end up becoming a long list easily.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 2 роки тому +1

      Speaking of Mature rated GB games, they did release a Mortal Kombat Gameboy game. It came with my GameBoy, but my mom kept it and game me Donkey Kong.

    • @cabbusses
      @cabbusses 2 роки тому +2

      @@LegendStormcrow Probably for the best, since I believe that port was terrible anyway.

    • @LegendStormcrow
      @LegendStormcrow 2 роки тому

      @@cabbusses likely was.

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq Рік тому

      ​@@cabbusses yes it is terrible (trust me I've seen footage online that confirms that theory)

  • @CoolCaseyJ
    @CoolCaseyJ 2 роки тому +33

    “Congraturaisins” .. I think some things are meant to be lost

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. I would burn the cartridge if I were the guy

    • @ChimeraMK
      @ChimeraMK 2 роки тому +4

      CONGLATURAT ION !!!
      YOU HAVE COMPLETED
      A GREAT GAME .
      AND PROOVED THE JUST ICE
      OF OUR CULTURE .
      NOW GO AND REST OUR
      HEROES !

  • @elvispressplay7735
    @elvispressplay7735 2 роки тому +21

    The California Raisins one is particularly strange to me because I very much remember renting a California Raisins game for the NES when I was a kid.
    Clearly I'm just misremembering things but it's definitely eerie as even the screenshots and label seemed familiar.

    • @psychokinrazalon
      @psychokinrazalon 2 роки тому +1

      The gameplay shown in this video should be familiar if that was the case.

    • @elvispressplay7735
      @elvispressplay7735 2 роки тому +9

      @@psychokinrazalon It is a bit. That's why I said the screenshots and label were familiar. But we're talking about a game I MAYBE played one time around 25 years ago. Anything I "remember" now could just be my brain manufacturing memories based off a similar game.

    • @qriist1850
      @qriist1850 2 роки тому +3

      I was sitting here with my brow furrowed while I watched that segment because I recalled seeing a California Raisins game on the rental shelves when I was a kid. I would even bet a small amount of cash on that being the case.

    • @Kstanimal
      @Kstanimal Рік тому

      It's extremely familiar to me too. Not sure why

  • @SkaiCyan
    @SkaiCyan 2 роки тому +13

    I actually remember seeing ads for that California Raisins game growing up, I never knew that it never ended up releasing (or that Capcom was stupid all the way back then too).

  • @rootfifthoctave5336
    @rootfifthoctave5336 2 роки тому +15

    huge kudos to frank cifaldi, kelsey lewin and all the people at VGHF. they're doing incredible work there

  • @TheodoreWard
    @TheodoreWard 2 роки тому +11

    I got to try one of those Sega VR headsets once in 1993. I was interviewing for a job with a game company in Tulsa, OK (Greg Zumwalt's company that made Michael Jordan in Flight) and the company was supposedly working on a game for this VR headset and let me try it out, I think it was just running the tank game they showed in this video but I was impressed with it.

    • @slagit
      @slagit 2 роки тому

      I worked at Futurescape on the Nuclear Rush game and yeah it was some fun times that were I guess a little bit a head of the times. LOL!

    • @snooks5607
      @snooks5607 2 роки тому

      @@slagit I guess the games didn't extend beyond a rectangular area in front of you? that way player would be more likely to keep their head still which is the only way I could imagine 15fps not being vomit inducing

    • @slagit
      @slagit 2 роки тому

      @@snooks5607 You know not totally sure. I would think they would be the aspect ratio of the screen being used. But then I was not the programmer tech person just creating the imagery.

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq Рік тому

      I would love to see those sega VR headsets get found (or at least preserved in pristine condition)

  • @dragonlibrarian7982
    @dragonlibrarian7982 2 роки тому +32

    I fucking hate, how many collectors there are who only want something if no one else can have it. How many lost games are sitting in some douchenozzles collection never to see the light of day.

  • @Imgema
    @Imgema 2 роки тому +7

    The animations in Bio Force Ape are great. I really like how the character is crouching on the elevator platforms that go up in very fast speeds, as if he is unable to stand up because of the heavy force of gravity. I don't remember seeing such thing in any other game.

  • @RGozz
    @RGozz 2 роки тому +524

    It's infuriatingly crazy to me how people will hoard these prototypes for money given that as time goes on it's increasingly likely that they will begin to break down. I wonder how many prototypes have been lost to time simply due to some neckbeard wanting to be the only one who can play it.

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 роки тому +14

      Cry harder

    • @waspennator
      @waspennator 2 роки тому +1

      Reminds me of when some Japanese collector splurged nearly $14,000 on a rare prototype of Indy the Magical Kid just to hoard it away from us dirty westerners.

    • @RGozz
      @RGozz 2 роки тому +206

      @@HistoryandReviews appreciate your contribution and insights to this discussion :)

    • @LOL-gn5oh
      @LOL-gn5oh 2 роки тому +163

      @@HistoryandReviews Found the neckbeard

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 2 роки тому +4

      @@waspennator if video games are your life you need help

  • @hexshadowman
    @hexshadowman 2 роки тому +16

    Gotta love a story of a lost treasure being rediscovered years or even decades after.

  • @Forever_Zero
    @Forever_Zero 2 роки тому +21

    All three stories are amazing, I think this made me appreciate more the gaming community and the passion some people have to protect and preserve this media

    • @slagit
      @slagit 2 роки тому +1

      Having lived one of them yeah it brought back fun memories and even gave me some new insights!

  • @carn9507
    @carn9507 2 роки тому +19

    I played the rom of bio-force ape sometime ago and was impressed with it's speed for sure. Would have been nice to have seen it released

  • @sirflimflam
    @sirflimflam 2 роки тому +33

    Goddamn, the raisins story got a lot more serious at the end there.

  • @pinnedcomment8614
    @pinnedcomment8614 2 роки тому +82

    Fun psych fact: Memories can be strong enough to invoke the exact emotions a person felt when the experience originally happened.

    • @Mylifemychoice1997
      @Mylifemychoice1997 2 роки тому +1

      ~ True Story

    • @GreyValkyrie
      @GreyValkyrie 2 роки тому

      Eh

    • @doc8125
      @doc8125 2 роки тому +7

      Can even take only a sound, flavor or smell in a completely different context for you to suddenly be lost in thought of one of your childhood memories or similar, really cool when it happens (as long as it's not a bad memory)

  • @ArcadeStriker
    @ArcadeStriker 2 роки тому +12

    I don't know how to feel about the "Congraturaisins" screen, it feels both amazing and insanely cursed at the same time
    EDIT: holy shit the ending- I mean the cancellation of that game feels like something straight out of SEGA's own disputes between SOA and SOJ, that sucks so much
    EDIT2: what the fuck was the actual ending, that's awful

  • @LanEXHikari
    @LanEXHikari Рік тому +3

    Theses stories are so crazy I can't get enough of them. Great work as always, please keep sharing your findings ✌🏼

  • @BlazeHeartPanther
    @BlazeHeartPanther 2 роки тому +6

    Hope you do more of these in the future. I'd love to hear about Dinosaur Planet, my favorite quote unquote lost game. It was the game that Star Fox Adventures was originally going to be but got changed when Miyamoto made an observation about one of its main characters, Sabre, kind of looked like Fox Mcloud from Star Fox.

  • @mundane_in_the_membrane
    @mundane_in_the_membrane 2 роки тому +6

    game preservationists are the real mvps

  • @eyeln9ne696
    @eyeln9ne696 2 роки тому +3

    I remember the little plastic raisin toys that everyone was collecting when i was a kid. My favorite was the raisin wearing orange sunglasses.

  • @steelcurtain187
    @steelcurtain187 2 роки тому +3

    Bio Force Ape looks like it was modeled after the Ultimate Warrior lol. Especially with the crazy running

  • @yoonvsaechao
    @yoonvsaechao 2 роки тому +3

    Really liking the amount of content you guys have been pumping out lately

  • @ReddCinema
    @ReddCinema 2 роки тому +39

    Love your vids, keep it up your amazing! ❤

  • @Hollowpoint-rv4wq
    @Hollowpoint-rv4wq 2 роки тому +1

    This is the kind of content I appreciate from your channel.

  • @ChronoSquare
    @ChronoSquare 2 роки тому +5

    I had to do a double take when looking at some older photos of my uncles. What I thought was my three+ uncles donning blackface was, in actuality, all of them doing a combined group costume of the California Raisins.
    I still am not sure how or why I know of the Raisins, from the 90s.

  • @eatmyshorts3147
    @eatmyshorts3147 2 роки тому +1

    Dude BIO FORCE APE looks absolutely amazing for an NES game. The animation is buttery smooth I'm so glad it got found and preserved. Stories like this fascinate me

    • @tiktok-mc2nq
      @tiktok-mc2nq Рік тому

      The game feel one of those weird but fun indie games that you would find on steam

  • @Mister_Clean
    @Mister_Clean 2 роки тому +5

    That Raisins game has cursed energy

    • @sadie9728
      @sadie9728 2 роки тому +6

      I mean, there was a murder involved so yeah...p cursed

  • @Rando1975
    @Rando1975 2 роки тому +3

    I love reading through old gaming mags and seeing previews about games I don't remember. Turns out I didn't remember a lot of them because they ended up getting canceled. The highest number I've seen so far is 6 canceled games in one issue, and I believe 4 of them for for the Sega CD.

  • @mechashoujo
    @mechashoujo 2 роки тому +13

    The story behind how the ROM for Raisins trades hands is crazy!

  • @slagit
    @slagit 2 роки тому +2

    Very cool video and fun to revisit the memories of my time at Futurescape and NUCLEAR RUSH which I worked on and it was my first Video Game job! I had a pal at Sega at that time period and he thought he heard NR was cancelled because of the head gear over heating or something like that. It is interesting years later learning more about the reasons of cancellation. We had headgear at Futurescape and I was into VR at the time and had a blast shooting the ships I built! Anyways having experienced VR now man what we worked on seems so primitive!

  • @IllusionMaster17
    @IllusionMaster17 2 роки тому +1

    California Raisins and Bio Force Ape are the example about how videogames' story and preservation are important, and how their story can be filled with the funniest of moments or even unfortunate events.
    How a simple look at someone else's yard can lead to a literal odyssey about a game from more that 30 years, is always amazing.

  • @enduser8410
    @enduser8410 2 роки тому +1

    5:18 Imagine your studio working on revolutionary VR technology only to go under and your only legacy being a mention in a game called Ballz 3D. Tragic.

  • @waylonoconner9121
    @waylonoconner9121 2 роки тому +1

    Ultimate Journey for the NES and Conan The Barbarian for Jaguar are two games I recall that never got released.
    I even had an Electronic Gaming Monthly with a review of Ultimate Journey in it

  • @dolst
    @dolst Рік тому +1

    Thank you for name dropping Twin Eagle! I have been trying to remember what that game was called for at least 25 years now!
    Surf Wisely.

  • @LanIost
    @LanIost 2 роки тому

    Probably the most interesting episode I've seen on here. Great job!

  • @svenbtb
    @svenbtb 2 роки тому

    I wonder how many more lost prototypes, whether for unreleased OR released games, are still out there somewhere floating around in someone's basement or attic. Hopefully more and more keep getting found! Thanks for this great info, really appreciate all the work you guys do to bring us all this fascinating info!
    That Bio Force Ape story was wild lmao, I remembering hearing a little about it but had no idea it was so bonkers.

  • @fiskburk2908
    @fiskburk2908 2 роки тому +18

    It's sad to think about how some "collectors" hoard prototypes just for the only reason of feel special and now add some companies like Pico Interactive that forbid the use of sharing prototypes so they can sell an inferior and modified version.

    • @benvictim
      @benvictim 2 роки тому +8

      RIP the resident evil 1.5 80% build T_T found but being hoarded. So the community is working off the 40% build that was found.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 роки тому +9

      If I was a game collector I'd think nothing of sharing the rom. I'd still have the original and that would be what would make it special.

    • @jfgme
      @jfgme 2 роки тому +1

      Didn't this happen with an Akira prototype for Super Famicom last year? Think it was sold on Ebay than never seen again? could be thinking of the wrong game thought tbh

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin 2 роки тому +1

      You'd be surprised how many Japanese horders specifically horde elusive and lost arcade boards just because they have an elusive thing. They don't even want to sell them for a penny- they just want to keep them forever for selfish reasons.

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 2 роки тому +1

      It sucks, but if it's any consolation most prototypes out there are earlier builds /unfinished versions of games that did eventually get a release

  • @wardrich
    @wardrich 2 роки тому +3

    [00:33] - Super Mario 64 DD
    [02:18] - Sega Home VR
    [08:07] - California Raisins (NES)
    [14:20] - Bio Force Ape

  • @gunkarsingh1369
    @gunkarsingh1369 2 роки тому +1

    My love for this channel keeps increasing with every video they release.

  • @stylemonkey17
    @stylemonkey17 2 роки тому +1

    This video is so awesome! I love hearing about prototypes and lost media

  • @3ftninja132
    @3ftninja132 2 роки тому +5

    Rest in Peace Brandon Murphy, you were to good for this world.

  • @jmjedi923
    @jmjedi923 Рік тому +1

    Man, the sheer chance of the guy who knew exactly what mario 64 DD was finding it is boggling my mind

  • @SiberianHuskyF1
    @SiberianHuskyF1 2 роки тому

    Amazing and detailed work as always!

  • @nahuelpaz8590
    @nahuelpaz8590 Рік тому

    Love the videos! You put so much time and work into them and they make my day better

  • @millasgameroom
    @millasgameroom 2 роки тому

    one of the best videos you've done. what a trip.

  • @SezmoistheWorst
    @SezmoistheWorst 2 роки тому +2

    That's some quality trolling in the bio ape story.

  • @PowerPandaMods
    @PowerPandaMods 2 роки тому +1

    There's so many games you could talk about. Pokemon Spaceworld Gold/Silver are some of the big ones, but just a few weeks ago a completed build of Star Wars Battlefront 3 was found. Even games that have since been released, like Earthbound Beginnings, Star Fox 2, etc.

  • @rux_ton
    @rux_ton 2 роки тому +6

    Wow i wasn't expecting an actual wild ride of stories. This is definitely one of my favorite videos now for sure. So glad we have been graced with such generous folks wanting to just help preserve videogame history!

  • @theformerkingoftheprevious60
    @theformerkingoftheprevious60 2 роки тому +1

    Imagine wanting to find a game since 2008... And you find it in a very casual place

  • @TheUncommonValley
    @TheUncommonValley 2 роки тому +1

    I absolutely love covering these kinds of games. They're always the most fun to talk about. :)

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu 2 роки тому +8

    I'm still all in one getting leaks of Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine betas but stuff that's probably more doable rn is that there's apparently more Phillips cdi training games like the burger king one but for target and such. Not too exciting I know but yeah.

    • @misterk7_-
      @misterk7_- 2 роки тому +2

      Nah a new CDI game being found sounds like a goldmine. Imagine the YTP possibilities

  • @Tricob1974
    @Tricob1974 2 роки тому +1

    Let's also not forget two NES games from the Oliver Twins - Wonderland Dizzy and Mystery World Dizzy. They were found and released less than ten years ago.

  • @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial
    @Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial 2 роки тому +2

    FINALLY! A lost games video where NOBODY talked about Gex Jr.!
    Seriously, when that prototype resurfaced, people wouldn’t stop heckling me about it-it was insanity!

    • @stedmangg
      @stedmangg 2 роки тому

      Ah, Gex, glad to see you here, did you hear about Gex Jr getting dumped?

  • @maxrage2104
    @maxrage2104 2 роки тому

    Great video! I love hearing about what could've been!

  • @illmatticx
    @illmatticx 2 роки тому +1

    Once in awhile I'll come back to this channel to see if you expanded your topics past Nintendo and MGS games, but doesn't seem like that'll ever change

  • @MurderMostFowl
    @MurderMostFowl 2 роки тому +1

    Side topic: The California Raisin Christmas Special has been a tradition for my family for 30 years. I always wish they came out with a Blu-ray version

  • @balazsgyekiczki1140
    @balazsgyekiczki1140 2 роки тому

    Very thorough research, nice work!

  • @RoseLalonde76
    @RoseLalonde76 Рік тому +1

    So THAT'S where that butter monster picture I've had for 12 or so years came from! I could never find the source through reverse image searching...

  • @NeopToIemy
    @NeopToIemy 2 роки тому

    Grew up during this era and I recall vague snippets of a lot this stuff.
    Absolutely fascinating.
    I totally forgot about California Raisins, I still have that Game Players magazine somewhere

  • @misterk7_-
    @misterk7_- 2 роки тому +1

    These were so interesting. Especially the last one. That was intriguing as hell

  • @mino2123
    @mino2123 2 роки тому +2

    never would i have expected a story about the lost california raisins game to end with first degree murder

  • @ShoshoDupers
    @ShoshoDupers Рік тому +1

    Finding lost video games is like finding the holy grail.

  • @Aki-chanChannel
    @Aki-chanChannel 2 роки тому +1

    RIP Brandon Murphy, never chased the bag for te good of all. Absolute legend.

  • @ybfriendlystrawberry
    @ybfriendlystrawberry 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the video and information, really cool to learn about this ^^

  • @smugcat723
    @smugcat723 2 роки тому +2

    The 64 DD should be the mascot of DYKG lol

  • @wolftickets1969
    @wolftickets1969 2 роки тому +1

    Other lost and found NES prototypes:
    Sunman (began development as a Superman game before SunSoft lost the license)
    Titan Warriors (cancelled sequel to Capcom's early vertical shooter Vulgus)

  • @Kyoko_
    @Kyoko_ Рік тому

    This felt like a vintage YT gaming video, nice work.

  • @morchela
    @morchela 2 роки тому +1

    California Raisins looks very similar to Tom & Jerry NES game released in 1990. Curiously Radiance Software then worked with Hi-Tech software which was the developer of T&J. I know there is not timing btw them, but it got my attention.

  • @Ezzekiel73
    @Ezzekiel73 Рік тому

    There's something so heartwarming and fantastical about hearing of a game lost to time, but ultimately discovered and saved to preservation. Thank you to all who dedicate their time to making sure video games can be saved for all to play and experience.
    And rest in peace, Brandon Murphy, a true legend who's untimely death and sacrifice lives on with the California Raisins prototype, now thankfully preserved for history.

  • @RabbitEarsCh
    @RabbitEarsCh 2 роки тому

    Huh. Even as someone who watched the Bio Force Ape debacle live, and learned about California Raisins soon after the dump, I still learned a lot today. Thanks for going the extra mile on the research as usual.

  • @RedDev1l757
    @RedDev1l757 2 роки тому

    Such a fantastic video. So interesting. I want more!!!!

  • @carn9507
    @carn9507 2 роки тому

    The moonwalk part of that Raisins game reminded me I was replaying Super Metroid for the first time in 20 years the other day and surprised to see 'Moon Walk' in words right there on the special settings menu. Kinda neat for a Nintendo first-party game to have a lil reference there to Jackson who was generally a Sega icon (with the Moonwalker game being a popular title in the early days of the MD/Genesis and still fun to play today even if it's a pretty simple game, there's something just very fun about playing as Jackson and listening to those 16-bit renditions of his classic tunes).

  • @csj9619
    @csj9619 2 роки тому +1

    Holy cow! Wasn't expecting murder and fire on a video game video

  • @tr1p1ea
    @tr1p1ea Рік тому +1

    The scrolling in Bioforce Ape is crazy!

  • @skRapKlan
    @skRapKlan 2 роки тому

    Wow, thanks for all this amazing history!

  • @fresnokila3
    @fresnokila3 2 роки тому +3

    I still have a Sega magazine around where they talk about the Sega VR. Probably the only Sega magazine I bought back then. I was very curious about it and well...I never heard about it again.

  • @HankseyHill
    @HankseyHill 2 роки тому

    I legit never knew about Sega VR. I read and watch a ton of video game stuff too. Thanks for sharing this with us. Have a like, friend :)

  • @jchrist9800
    @jchrist9800 Рік тому +2

    I am pretty flabbergasted that there is a man, walking this earth as I type this, named ‘Rich Whitehouse’. Like, somebody actively chose to give someone that name. That’s so awesome.

    • @favoritemustard3542
      @favoritemustard3542 Рік тому

      I grew up with a guy named "Mike Hunt" so... there's another cautionary tale for prospective parents.

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet 2 роки тому +10

    As a humble archivist, those people who encourage others not to dump a ROM so that the cart maintains a higher monetary value always bother me. Treating an experience built on some much effort and artistry as if it's just some commodity that should be withheld for trading purposes. I'm glad they got pranked hard. ;p