Warframe Or Destiny 2? Which Should You Play?
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- SPOILER WARNING: In this video I talk about a playable character in Warframe that is considered spoilers, whilst I believe it's old enough news to not be, I respect hardcore Warframe players opinions on the matter so please note that I will add a chapter to this called "SPOILER CHARACTER" so beware that that's in there
I'd planned to get this out before christmas, but then my CPU would overheat anytime i rendered it. So that was fun...
Song List:
Chicala Lpis - Blackest Luxury Car
Super Mario Odessey - Steam Gardens
Ace Combat 7 - Magic Spear I I fucked up and mis-spelled it magic axe in the video :'(
Ghost Runner - Capture
Mamoru Has Been Cursed! - Will Power
Mario Kart Wii - DK's Snowboard Cross
F.K - Give Me
Neon White - Violets Theme
Persona 3 - Iwatodai Dorm
Sonic Mania - Studiopolis Act 1
Final Fantasy XIV - Old Sharlayan Day Theme - Ігри
Let me explain, Warframe is that lover who you have a healthy, pleasant, if somewhat tame relationship. Destiny 2 is that toxic ex you've loved with a passion your whole life. Warframe is a game. Destiny 2 is a lifestyle. That's the best way I can put it
So much this lol. Anytime I look at Warframe I can only think "this is the shooter equivalent of Diablo" just annihilating entire armies in seconds and flying around at light speed. It definitely feels like "Fun first, story and everything else later", whereas Destiny often feels like the opposite (although I honestly think it's just all over the place and sometimes brings great story, great gameplay, and great mechanics, but rarely ever more than one at once)
@@Blahblahblaafmn I prefer Warframe story because it feels more like a continuing story than multiples tales, unlike Destiny
@@DiavoloGrenadine idk, last few seasons have tied in together pretty well.
@@Azrael_Equinox What about Destiny 2 original campaign ?
@@DiavoloGrenadine og D2 - shadowkeep was disjointed. Granted Forsaken was great but it didn't tie into its seasons.
Old content can still tie in though, such as any Cabal or Hive stuff, ie Savathûn working in the background since Io missions and being built up from other seasons until Witch Queen or Calus and his imperial stuff going on for the same for Lightfall. The original campaign on its own though is just bad, honestly happy its gone.
The price tag that Destiny 2 has should come with the amount of content Warframe offers for free. I rest my case.
As a destiny 2 meta slave i approve this message.
*crowd applause*
a lot of games should be free than.
One of my greatest memories of playing Warframe always involved the community. I remember my clan had set up a Holloween fashion frame event, where the first place got a 300 platinum reward (2nd and 3rd got plat too). I participated with my Saryn Prime, and I won first place. I was estatic.
Warframe's fandom is truly unmatched
Destiny players are..... well..... they are very passionate. About things that they probably shouldn't be very passionate.
iron promise?
It's spelled ecstatic.
Fashion is Warframe endgame.
One big think to take into consideration if you are a new player is, that if you play Warframe can you experience the entire game from start till the latest update, meanwhile in Destiny 2 more than half of the game alongside PVP and PVE-P maps were removed, not mention all the seasonal content that goes away every year, so as a new player you will feel lost and confused.
Yes. My friend tried it and he heard something about Cayde... How am I supposed to recommend this game to someone with saying.. Oh, yeah, he was bad ass and stuff.. Then they killed him.. but hey! They also decided to remove him lmao
Moreover, as a returning player having BOUGHT the base game, but not progressed much... I find that the story I paid for and was playing is gone, I'm in a location I don't know, and if I want actual content I need to pay again.
@@BIackstrength I experienced recently, I bought the game at launch put it down for a few years. I decided I'd make a new character in Destiny and play through the story then continue into destiny 2 only to find its all gone.
@@cebulak6695They outright remove the story?
@@brotbrotsen1100 yep. removed campaign, cutscenes, lore missions etc, only think u keep if info about them.. that is if u played through them
I think an important part that didn't really get emphasized enough, which really puts warframe ahead for quite a bit. Is that there are no paid for season pass dlc things to access the new content in Warframe. So it is much cheaper to play.
Yeah Nightwave is queen
I throw some money for plat every now and then at Warframe to support the devs, I wasn't pressured into it but God knows they are a paragon in todays toxic modern gaming environment.
I quit Destiny after I found the paywall
@@Drebolaskan same, I usually don't want to spend any penny on MMO games but I would spend some every once in a while on this game
After all it also worth if if I use the plat for cosmetics, they're all looks good and customizable as well
@maulanahanif6761 nightwave is free and not a battle pass who tf are you pvping against? Little Timmy who is 11 and just discovered warframe because fortnite is down???
@@Zyxiurwhat are you talking about, they never said nightwave was paid
The thing about Warframe is , you can play it at your own pace. There's no rush to do anything. You can take a break from the grind and play other games without the FOMO. Meanwhile Destiny demands your full 100% attention and you just dedicate a large chunk of your time if you intend to do anything meaningful like raids/dungeon/trials. While warframe can be confusing at first ,New players will eventually get a gist of what us going on. Meanwhile new players in Destiny will literally have no clue what to do and why they're doing it .
True😂I’m a new destiny player and I didn’t know that need to buy a DLC to play the campaigns.
I've tried so many times to get into Warframe but it's just the exact same thing every mission and i'm left feeling like I made 0 progress. At least Destiny actually does a good job at being clear what you should be doing and where to go. Warframe is so cluttered
@@iamskalol2064 You need a really juicy bank account to play D2 the way it wants you to be played.
not actually only the raid i finish the dungeon really fast alone and with 2 more ppl its no problem
The thing about these games are, there are fans of one or the other. It's clear which one you prefer, and completely trash on the opposite game. D2 doesn't demand your full attention at all. You can level up to par with dungeons within a few days if you're behind, the only thing that requires excessive grinding is Master raids.
I remember the time I went back to check out Destiny 2 after like a year of not playing, because I wanted to experience the nostalgia of the campaign that I remember so fondly, only to then get told ALL of it got DELETED because of the Destiny Content Vault, that's also how I found out about Warframe, I just asked on reddit for a game like Destiny 2, that actually has a free campaign, got recommended Warframe, and it is really good
Not to mention, with the removal of Red War, there's no campaign that free players can get invested into. Its just do X, receive Y. Why? Shiny stuff.
Yeah there’s seriously no campaign on Destiny anymore it sucks. You have to pay 50 dollars to get the new campaign which will probably only be a couple hours long.
@@mellowdarkness3344 also wanna hear something funny? They added a Timeline reflection system in the game as a "Guide for new players" to help and understand the game story line and you can play 1 third of the content. Forsaken, Shadowkeep, Beyond light, Witch queen. The only removed content thats slightly playable is the Forsaken one involving the first mission. Thats literally it Red war is there but cant even be played only read.
@@00Grimreaper00 if there was any campaign they should've kept, it's Red War. It's what helps setup the drive for the guardians to learn more, become more powerful, and start to really look into things because Ghaul just put the traveler in a cage and all the guardians became borderline useless until the deus ex machina happened
What I’ve come to learn when I tried to play destiny 2 as a Warframe player- not to many people like to help. Warframe players tend to love helping new players.
Edit: MOM IM FAMOUS!!!
Because we want them to be the best 😎🤝
that's weird, i must be a warframe player at heart because i love hanging out in cosmodrome and helping new lights through the tutorial section
U know why?? Cause the game is soo chill and casual. Destiny is more so focused on end game(Raids and dungeons) which require teamwork and everyone to be on the same page. Not much content like that in warframe aside from eidolon fights.. These types of content is good for end game content but it does promote this toxicity in the community, to be competitive and such
@@TheDarkMaster312 you should definitely play! What’s your discord I can help! :D
@@jgsource552 But only Eidolons. Legit.
There's just one thing I'd like to bring up for Warframe...the tutorial. It starts off amazing. The cutscenes, the visuals, the gameplay, *chef's kiss*. But right after the tutorial, the game just expects you to know what to do, know a friend, or have a wiki page pre-opened. The vast majority of players are extremely willing to help out newbies.
TL;DR: Warframe has a great tutorial but is far too short. You'll love it if you get over that first learning curve
edit: I know that some games thrive off of having the wiki on the second monitor. This might scare off newer players unaware of such. It's both a good and bad thing. I'm also aware that the tutorial just for updated.
Warframe is horrific as a new player. I was in a mission doing the objective but some hardcore player was in spamming that I need to follow him, i'm assuming because he is replaying the mission for some specific upgrade pieces, which I know absolutely nothing about. The game has so many good things about it but man is it an unclear mess.
Very true, but why the TL;DR?? You wrote 3 lines, or at least for me on PC you did.
@@brother_sothoth why does it matter...
Yeah. The first time I tried Warframe, I gave up after the tutorial. It didn't help that I had some sort of matchmaking glitch/bug where I put myself into a queue for something and 10 minutes later I was still waiting.
Whatever the hell that was got eventually fixed. It's MUCH better now, but it can definitely be difficult to get started initially unless you're playing with friends. Playing with friends can really change things because your friend can bring a complementary warframe to whatever you're using. For example, when I and another clanmate were just beginning, we'd have our noobframes that we were leveling, and our clanmates would take us into high-level defense missions with a Despoil Nekros or Pilfering Swarm Hydroid for extra resource drops.
@@PandaCheeks It doesn't but I'm just pointing out that OP doesn't have to include one next time they write a comment of that length.
IMO a big difference between these games is the community. In Warframe you have dedicated chats for people to run missions with you/recruitment for clans and trading(which we won’t count since D2 doesn’t have anything like that) but when it comes to destiny 2 it’s to hard to interact with other people outside of missions. For example, if you’re a new player and want people to help you good luck because you can’t just join a random clan or request to join, someone has to invite you. I played destiny back in 2019 and got back to in around august of last year and it took me like 2-3 months to join a clan solely off the game. If you’re wondering if what people are saying about warframe’s community, it’s 100% true there a veteran players that will time to teach you, taxi you to areas to earn resources, for example if been playing WF since 2016 on ps4 so I know how the game works, but I recently redownloaded it on pc and been having fun grinding everything as a low level. This past week I’ve been farming relics for volt prime and have been getting horrible rng on one part to the point that I opened 10-15 relics with no success but literally early on today a random guy decided to give me the part that I need entirely for free. You’re going to have so many moments like these of people trying to get you off their feet with what little they can give. A small streamer I recently just discovered Calle Stellaryte on twitch literally gives out free stuff for players new or veteran. You don’t get this type of community in destiny 2
@@occultistically Well... Warframe have that intergrated *in the game itself*
@@iloveknife8798 if you're going to get off destiny to communicate with your clan anyway, then why is this such a big issue?
Dude… I’ve played with so many people on LFGs for raids and shit. Some are even friends now…
@@AdamTuxTengler Destiny has regular, cross-platform in-game chats. There's no trading like in Warframe, which seems like a great game too, but some of these Destiny assertions are absurd.
Then there is d2, where u get 1 shot through a wall by a cheater then get t-bagged by 3 people just before getting kicked by bungie for a 5 hour maintenance in the middle of the day.
Ahhh Good times.
While I haven't played as much Destiny as I have Warframe, I feel like Warframe has much more variety than anything I experienced or you showed in Destiny. Yes, there's a lot of "Go through corridor and kill stuff", since that was the focus up until about 2017 (about half the game's lifespan). But since then, we have giant overworld bosses, open world roaming with various side activities and minigames (per area), mech combat, giant spaceship missions, and on and on and on. That's beside over a dozen different horizontal upgrades to pursue. If anything, my biggest problem with Warframe is there is way too much to do, it can easily get overwhelming. Do I want to do some Eidolon hunts? Work on leveling a focus school? Oh, but my Necromech still needs some upgrades. Oh, and I really want a Kuva Lich on my space ship crew. But....then....and.....you see my point? And that's all way before the end game content!
Compared to Destiny, fight things in different environments to make a few numbers go up. Yes, those environments are varied and beautiful, and those numbers look really nice. But in the end, they all feed into do things to make your number bigger. That's...not content variety to me.
This is a really well put together point, warframe seems to have a lot more content variety than destiny.
The greatest thing in Warframe IMO is embarking yourself on personal quests to get certain things done. For example, I came back to the game after not playing for months and was checking out the available warframes to pick one that looked cool to me and get it. I ended up picking Xaku and oh boy... in this quest I:
- maxed out Fortuna
- got my own moa
- finally did the orb bosses
- maxed out the entrati and necraloid
- mastered a bunch of weapons and frames I used along my journey, as well as my necramech
- did a bunch of railjack
- finally got to experiment with augment mods and did a cool frost build
- met cool people that helped me and I helped along the way
- a lot of mining and fishing
Now I'm branching out. I'm gonna try out the helminth, while also ranking up syndicates, finally get to do some Zariman and get buffed for the circuit. And there's even more to do for me.
In Destiny these personal quests usually come down to "I wanna get that transmog" or "I want to craft this weapon" or "I'm looking for a certain roll". These are usually centered around a single activity (which is either the exact same thing that lasts 15 minutes over and over again or crucible/gambit which I'm not touching) or exotic quests, which are cool when they come with their own mission but horribly tedious when it's just "fill up this bar by doing x activity".
@@sprksmr7208 I tried to grind Xaku... after learning I had to max Fortuna, I decided its probably gonna be a few more hundred hours down the line before that happens lol.
@@sprksmr7208 destiny two is the equivalent of an addiction to cocaine and I’m addicted😭
I have put multiple years into both. I would say warframe is the more fun longterm game with a good story and lore. Constant new content, that you dont have to pay for to acess, but it will be a grind. It is just not beginner friendly. Its very confusing at the start and pushes newbies away very quickly due to the high learning curve. But if you stick it out, its the best game you will ever play. Veterain players are very nice and will always help newbies arround that hard curve as we have all been there. I even quit the game for a few weeks multiple times when I first started due to the confusion.
I’ve gotten past the very early game now and am starting to get to the juicy lore and actually being able to mess with builds or get a cool frame. The start was rough and I dropped the game for a while at first but it’s really starting to pick up
Your right about the veterans helping in Warframe.All I Said was help in the chats and got about 20 ppl asking what I need help with.Awsome community
@@jayripp84 glad you got to experience the good community
As someone who has too many hours in both games, I appreciate that this is a very fair review of them. I love both games a lot and there are peaks and valleys for both. But it is healthy to not just blindly hate or love anything, and it’s good to take a step back and really see it for what it is
Best comment here.
warframe's shadow mapping looks like it was programmed ... like 30 years ago??
the AI probably would have been programmed better back then..
@@atomictravellerIf you think ai 30 years ago was programmed better than ai now then you are likely about 12 years old.
@@Good_Hot_Chocolate i'm 53, made games since th' 80s, writing my 2nd 3d engine atm using opengl and win32, no glm :)
I’ve played Destiny since it came out in 2014 and I’m totally hooked. Warframe I tried it and kinda liked it but was very confused with what I had to do
That's a nice way of saying Destiny is a casual game
@@TheDarckma it is not
@@tgoly84 it is competitively casual that is becoming too casual in a good way in PvE and a really bad way in PvP.
As a D1 beta vet
@@diontes1480 Destiny is grindy as all hell now. Deepsight weapons say hello.
@@Five20three Deepsight isn't as bad now. They add more and more ways to get guaranteed ones, and this season there's even some rng protection with some things that guarantee deepsight of a weapon that you don't already have the pattern for.
One thing about weapons,in Warframe(especially for melee) there is more weapon types. Sure most don’t have fancy perks like D2 exotics, but…hold up *deep breath* Assualt Rifles,Snipers,bows,shotguns,semi rifles,flamethrowers,water throwers,acid throwers,other throwers,pistols,dual pistols,beam pistols,lazer rifle,lazer pistol,lazer shotgun,lazer RPG,lazer flying rocket fist(talk about something wacky),Swords,Katana,Greatswords,dual swords,sword and shield,multi sword(sword with other swords around it) Two handed Katanas,Fists,Tonfas(imagine Assassin Creed’s hidden blade but instead of hidden it’s obvious),Spears,Polearmes(staffs),Nunchucks,Whips,Scythes,Heavy Scythes,Gunblades,and Gunspears. Ik Destiny two fanboys gonna hate,but it has been out for 5 years,meanwhile Warframe has been out for 10. Warframe no question has Far more diversity then not just the whole Destiny franchise,but every other Sci-Fi RPG or MMO I have ever played. For a game to not have PC mods and still be diverse as hell,the only reason why it’s unpopular was the fact that GTA launched that year and they were an unpopular studio to begin with. Warframe is basically a hidden gem of gaming. Once u find and learn it’s properties,you won’t need another Sci-Fi looter shooter ever till Warframe 2 comes out(which will be a really long time due to game still not aging).
I personally enjoy both games. However, I noticed that Warframe has a lot steeper of a learning curve. There are so many various mechanics unlike Destiny which is a bit more streamlined. I'd like to say that Warframe is to Path of Exile as Destiny 2 is to Diablo 3/4.
warframe is kinda crazy like that. ive gotten to the point where i can find mod loadouts, and juggle weapons abilities arcanes and ThE cHiLd but it took a long time to get to that point and while later on systems are spaced out in terms of introduction, at the start they just kind of dump a huge ammount of stuff on you without actually explaining it properly. not to mention how you arent likely to actually start the storyline until over a dozen hours in which is its own can of worms
I have >2 000hrs on Warframe and got asked by a friend to play D2 with him. You made very good points about Warframe (Tho you really shocked me when you talked about the operators, we don't talk about them when there's potential newbies around :s) and now I know a bit better what I should await from D2. Cool video !
Same! Warframe has just as much depth to its lower as Destiny 2, but a lot of it is optional, in the stuff that isn't completely changes the paradigm every time you find it out, so there's a massive basically community-wide gag order that we all willingly follow that while we may use it in public content, we don't talk about it or mention it or a new players so they can have the same amazing "oh what the fuck? That's awesome!" Moments we did.
I was shocked how the entire community, at least 6-7 years ago, wouldn't bring their void kids out at all if someone was low MR and had likely not made it past second dream. I also got the advise to play through the star chart solo so I could suffer and learn each mission type and get used to the game before I got blown past by the OG's in standard play.
I was surprised by the same thing, not talking about the operator around new players is like an untold but omnipresent rule in the Warframe community.
@@katatiko why tho, I don't really get it? I'm a D2 player with about 3.5k hours, but like 1 hour in Warframe from years ago
@@danielsterling4918 because it's such an impactful reveal, the developers put a lot of time and work into building it up, and it's a really satisfying payout. And it opens the door for a lot of the earlier things that were hinted at. It makes you completely rethink new relationship with the Warframes and the history of the teno, and that moment of realization is something to be treasured. It's also early enough in the playtime, only like 8 to 10 hours in, that it's worth staying silent until they found it themselves and experienced that.
This video summarizes so well my feelings towards D2 & Warframe! I took a break from D2 and switched back to Warframe. It’s been 7 years and my Warframe was in tact, still capable of picking up where I left off.
Same here
For me Warframe is super boring, since it is shooter in third person. I cant even feel those new guns. In destiny I play with them and loot is much more impactful for me. I love meele in third person tho.
@@runek100could you fucking imagine that movement in 1st person?
You'd be sick.
@@SnailSnail-lo4pm no? I love rpg with meele and bows in third person. But shooter is just super boring to me. It doesn't matter which gun you have, all that change are numbers.
@@runek100 I never said anything abt that but ok
Destiny is a lot easier to get into, but warframe definitely has a lot more playtime IF you manage to get really into it. Everyone I’ve seen that loves warframe has near or over 10k hours
What I love about Warframe is the trade system because you can also obtain everything with trade and it respect your time though I hate how much I have to grind every resource and being bugged out oftentimes.
This brought back nightmares of the times when the destiny and warframe community were kinda at eachothers throats and at this point and time I feel they both are just chill and glad they didn't end up like Anthem
Anthem had so much potential 😭😭😭 it just wasn't executed correctly.
I honestly felt more confused playing Destiny than I did when I first started playing Warframe. I just remember doing the exact same missions over and over and over. You can say similar things about Warframe but there is at least some variety between planets, destiny just felt like I was playing Groundhog Day Simulator. When I started playing Warframe, I just looked at it like I was essentially a space pirate and I would go to different planets collecting resources and gear. Best way to look at it, you’re going to a place to get a thing to allow you to progress to a place and get a thing, only there’s hundreds of different things with their own unique way to get said things. Why get these things? Well, it’s the point of the game, and some of these things make you feel like a total badass. Sometimes they just look cool. Why *not* go and get the thing, really
I felt the same about destiny. Was never entirely sure whether I was doing the right thing. Found it super boring after a bit
Destiny is the same but more straight forward
@@Bananakingchad the opposite warframe is literally 30 mins of gameplay on repeat whilst destiny actually has puzzles and dialogue explaining what’s happening throughout the mission only reason I could think you’d be confused is if you loaded up the open world area instead of missions or strikes
@@taylorpower3862 I did the quests but I can’t start anything else even though I see more quests
Honestly I wouldn't recommend either one, these live service games are pretty bad. Full products of one and the same thing reskinned just enough to throw paint over your eyes. Endless grind and you pay to grind faster and/or looking better doing it. Once you've played Warframe for a decade like me, then step away and take a good look at what you experienced? This is it.
I have to say tho, the customization is helluva addictive. Could spend days on end on just that - except mod builds. Endgame builds among weapons/frames/other gear pretty much use the same 5-6 mods, then slight variations given the strengths of what you're modding. Pretty dull as well. But there's no color combination I did not try on my gear.
As a Legendary Rank Warframe Turbo Sweat (apparently) with over 2000 hours in the game, I'd like to mention something regarding the two games as well. When Warframe was first being developed, it was basically the last shot for Digital Extremes to stay in business. And it was pretty bleak, they didn't expect to survive the downturn in the industry that was going on at the time, so they decided to put all their efforts into creating their dream project, expecting to fail but at least wanting to get their game out. So they went in with the intention of making a great game that they wanted to play, success or not. As a result, Warframe's foundation wasn't built to be a money maker. It was designed as a last hurrah from devs who expected to be out of work not long after. Those same devs are still steering the company a decade later, still working on their dream game, and being massively successful for shooting for the moon.
Activision / Bungie on the other hand, treat this like just another product meant to keep people playing long enough to keep paying for the next expansion, always dangling that stick of feeling like you're satisfied with a job well done behind the next paywall. The games fun, but it employs abusive and toxic psychological tactics to get you to constantly keep coming back and paying for that little bit more.
Whereas Warframe has a fairly well known story of a cosmetic mechanic they added shortly after adding pets to the game where they inadvertently created a skinner box pay mechanic (basically you paid to randomize your pet's appearance, then could sell that appearance to other players, NFT style before NFTs were conceptualized). After this mechanic going live they noticed that there was one player who had dropped literally thousands of real life dollars on this one mechanic within days of it going live. They immediately removed the entire mechanic from the game because they did not want that type of predatory game mechanic in their game. They reworked the mechanic and removed the paywall from it., then apologized to the community.
So while Warframe has constant timegating, it also has enough content for you to do other stuff in the mean time. If you are impatient, sure - you can drop some real life cash and buy that new character or gun instantly. But literally everything in Warframe is available for free. Every update, every character, every weapon, every piece of content, is 100% available to everyone regardless of if they have spent money on the game or not. And they don't sunset things. They use a "Prime Vault" system where Prime versions of the warframes (fancier, golden versions with slightly higher base stats) will periodically go into the vault. However, they are on a cycle and will come out of the vault periodically as well and are farmable in game during that time period. You can also farm them while they are vaulted if someone managed to save the Relics (think of them as a loot box type item that you do missions to unlock. The relics have several possible items in them, and the missions will give you one of the items out of the relic you choose. Relics are a fairly common drop from most missions in the game, so you'll have literally hundreds of these relics without even trying.) Also with the relics, everyone on the team can pick anyone's relic reward, so even if you didn't get the piece you wanted, maybe your friend did and you can both get his rare drop as your reward for the mission. So if you play the game while a Warframe is unvaulted, you'll get relics for their Prime version and can then try to get their pieces literally whenever you feel like it, and will often accidentally run into other players who have vaulted relics dropping rare pieces that aren't even available and can farm vaulted content while you farm for other things. No FOMO with their Vaulting system - it's more to regulate the in game economy and reduce content bloat.
I ain’t readin all that
Bro wake up and chose violence and fact, I liked ur comment is good
@@Couch_Potato_909 its really not hard to read
Came for the comparison, stayed for the endlessly replayable Destiny 2 PvP montage. Please do more of these.
Thank you! Honestly it means a lot, I was just going to cut it out of the video at one point as I wasn't sure if people would like it. But the feedback has been great so who knows, guess we'll have to see 😉
Started with Destiny, ended up with Warframe
Same. 😂
I was a kid playing Destiny, I became a man playing Warframe Xd
Same I just had no idea what I was doing in destiny
Opposite for me, started with Warframe. Was not a fan of the shift in focus where every piece of content they add feels like it contributes to nothing in larger sense, and the gameplay is either really fun or just really buggy. Weapon leveling is also dreadfully boring, I want something I spent 12 hours crafting to be useable from the start, not after grinding Hydron for hours. Destiny has some low points too but I feel like the devs are actually listening to criticism and improving the game while sticking to it's strengths.
@@D1ab0lical psst, a bit of advice for easy weapon leveling. Stealth bonus exists xD like, seriously, what? Hours? It takes 8 to 10 minutes to refill the weapon aff after forma, solo Adaro full stealth kill gives EXCESS amount of affinity, enough to get FOCUS from lich weapons. After 5 formas. Though, admittedly, they rarely even require that much. Usually you can fiddle around 3, if minmaxing - 4, if you utterly minmax - then maybe yes, 5 formas. For lich/tenet weapons. Idk why would you spend HOURS on something that can be done within half of ONE. 😑
Warframe is the game that gives you everything you never knew you wanted, it boasts a impressive amount of content and long shelf life and it is free there is no downside.
there is a LOT of downside. i love the game and DE to bits, but it is a freemium as hell experience. once youre up to endgame, being able to afk with a hydroid or what have you, platinum is an easy grind. im seeing a lot of "warframe is a friendlier new player experience" but i've never seen anything further from the truth. its so ugly to a new player, build cool new thing and wait 3 days because you simply dont have the facets to farm plat through yet. once you get there, its the higher shelf life game, but damn you really have to drag someone kicking and screaming through the first few MSQs to understand
@@chuggington4791 To be fair DE doesnt want an MR5-10ish player to have thousands of platinum on their account. You start as a baby Tenno u gain rewards like a baby Tenno the more time passes the more you get its a simple rewarding system. It would be nonsense for a game like warframe to be able to be played thru in terms of gaining items/finishing builds etc in 3-4 days its a year long grind. The timegates are annoying early on but in my own honest opinion justified. Nr.1 once youre a bit further into the game and craft stuff you will always find something else in the downtime of crafting, your work in Warframe literally never ends if you dont want to. I got myself years ago into Min/Maxing builds going for meme stuff tricaps endurance etc. The game just has infinite possibilities the only end of it is your own creativity to enjoy it.
Why do people act like Warframe isn't one of the most tedious grinds in gaming once you get to endgame??
@@oxsila because if you properly grind you can fly through the mastery ranks and trade for platinum to skip the wait times it's only because the game literally offers too much content that people become dazzled and lose sight of how easy and fast it is to go from 0 to endgame with the proper mission modes
@@-Malt- free game doesn’t mean free from criticism every game needs criticism no matter if it’s free or not.
Great video, thanks man, I always looked at Warframe but been stuck in Destiny since D1 (2014), I think it is about time I try something different. ALSO, love that dancing dog you have, hillarious!
For someone with 1.6k subs, this video was very well made. Thank you for this comparison video!
As a long time player of destiny (1) and Warframe.
Destiny is easier to get into, it almost immediately hooks you into the story
Warframe is more obscure, and you’re likely to be confused for the majority of the story up until the second dream, but as you progress your interests might be peaked
Destiny is a fast game to get into.
Warframe is a slow game at first, but it then speeds up ridiculously fast in the later missions
are you sure that d2 is easy to get into? seems like an absolute nightmare with the main campaigns gone, you're just thrown into the middle of everything
this is one of the reasons I can't recommend it to new players
It may be more obscure but I tried both and ended up with Warframe because they have a better new player experience in my opinion.
I've been playing with destiny since it came out. Still play a bit today but I would say destiny 2 is Way harder to get into compared to Warframe. Only thing that's hard about Warframe is the weapon crafting that is kinda annoying I remember making a bolter and it took 3 days lol.
You can also replay the story quests of Warframe as much as you want. You can't do that with Destiny unless you want to delete one of your three characters.
@@WraithReaper09 I mean, you can now with witch queen and content moving forward.
All I'm saying is running around with a giant buzzsaw as a melee in Warframe is so satisfying. You can rev it too!!!!
Lament from destiny 2 is a chainsaw sword you have to rev up
@@banditmain874 but giant tho?
@@banditmain874 I get what you mean, but honestly the Ghoulsaw from Warframe is more akin to the Whirligig Saw from Bloodborne, while Lament is much more like the chainsword from Darktide where you gotta rev it up before hitting something.
@@banditmain874but can you ride it like a skateboard tho?
Being a veteran in both games this was a great summary for new players looking to pick either game. Great vid
i have 20h on destiny 2 and 400h on warframe,
here are my personal thoughts on both
warframes whole lore is f2p , as soon as i joined after 40h of gameplay i feel in love with the game , the cominity is helpfull and the games lore is very very good
i just finished the last main quest and it was perfect , i didnt had to pay for anything and i recently made 600 plat by selling primes with a firend, and it felt good
it felt liike in thoase 400h every hour had content and was fun
soo i tried destiny 2 looking for the same amount of fun.... nope :((
im 20h in and the rest of the game is hidden behind dlcs and paywalls
i could spend like 20h more and get more exotics, but it dosent feel the same , the game feels empty , like if it was just a longer demo to make players spend money on the game, ive meet a firend in destiny 2 and it was cool , but most of the fun things that could replicate the fun i had in warframe, are behind paywalls
and now idk if i should buy the dlc and have fun for a little bit more, or just accept that there is no game that could replicate the fun i had with warframe.
im sorry for shitting on destiny 2 , its very good game, my point is that the good part of the game is hidden behind a paywall.
As someone who also started warframe recently due to d2 burnout, I thoroughly recommend that anyone playing one of these at least tries to play the other. I've beaten almost all of the content since season of the hunt (when I joined) but got burnout around season of plunder. Went over to warframe and have enjoyed that more at the moment. Both are great games that I think players on both sides should try
For anyone interested, feel free to ask anything here
@@plaguedoctor5145 The levelling in Warframe is too unclear for me at the moment that I uninstalled. I just wrote down a list of planets in which i've not completed all nodes. So deimos i did that, and eventually I get to nodes that are obviously not for my level. But I don't know what my level is!!! It's never made clear
@@oxsila your mastery level (the little number beside your gamer tag is a good place to start) you can increase it by getting weapons and warfraes to level 30. The best way to check the level of enemies to fight is look at the enemy, note their level and see how you do. If you're killing them quickly you're in the right place but if they're taking forever to die then you might want to find a new weapon or mods to help you out
@@oxsila remember to level up mods too, a max serration on a primary will go miles. For example, I was barely able to kill level 40 to 50 enemies but I upgraded all of my primary mods, crit chance etc and went to killing 60 to 70 level enemies quite quickly. Find a good weapon, good mods and a good warframe and that should help you progress a bit faster
Hey so I get that you got burned out last season (who didn't as a lore junkie season of Plunder blows) but I'm curious If u gave season of the Seraph a try ? I personally like it, the only downside being that it follows the same seasonal structure.
Probably the most honest review of both. I play both now as well, with warframe being the most recent, and been taking a break Destiny 2 because I am burned out from the power-level grind. The quests in warframe are really cool, especially the new war campaign.
The build variety, synergy etc. is the main reason I play Warframe (plus everything is designed to look cool). Augments are basically armor exotics but you can equip as many as you want (which you get free by playing), this along with helminth and operator abilities/arcanes can have crazy synergy which give you several different playstyles within a lot of frames or weapons. There's generally more complicated "min-maxing" than in Destiny.
The only real "endgame" things Warframe has that you don't make yourself (love that description btw) are Rivens and Eidolons. Rivens are randomized mods for weapons that you grind/trade for (trade chat is so full of them there may as well be a riven chat), Eidolons are "open world" bosses with a pretty high skill ceiling that you want a coordinated group to do efficiently.
Those synergies and rivens also makes warframe's difficulty a joke (not complaning I'm Mr 30) truly a power fantasy.
fashionframe true endgame
volt engaging in intricate arcane rituals before one shotting an eidolon is always a sight to behold.
my "endgame" is just a desire to get "the squad"
a long term goal to just, get every single warframe on my team and have come up with a build for each, doing other stuff on the side but on the whole having that be my main overarching "goal" once i do that ill have considered myself as "winning" warframe
at least until they release the next story mission
the eidolon watching me pull out my fully builded mecha that does 25M crits lmao@@thesatelliteslickers907
I'm a player of both (warframe since 2017, even though my first login was in 2015, and destiny 2, which I got into during season of the arrivals in 2019) and I've been getting into Crossout recently. That is another level of grind.
Also, here's a fun fact: warframe was first conceptualized in 2001 under the name *Darksector.* but due to the publisher not being supportive of the Sci-fi genre, the game was released under the same name as what can best be described as a metal gear clone. When they started designing warframe, they recycled a lot of the original design concepts seen in the original trailer. Some of the environmental design elements can be found in the game to this day that were designed something like 22 years ago. I believe you could search "original darksector trailer" and find it without too much issue. In the trailer, you will see a man in a suit that looks like the warframe Excalibur holding what appears to be a Lato. There are grineer soldiers holding what are now burstons inside of what looks like the Zariman-10-0 (ten O, that's why we're called tenno, even though the Darksector protagonist's name is Hayden Tenno) with a clearly corpus interior.
In the beta, there was no grineer interior. Instead, they just used the old corpus ship interior since the corpus didn't exist yet, anyway. The grinner didn't get their own interior until later.
Wow, that was a big fun fact...
Here's a little fun fact: the factions of warframe all have their own languages with are really just English shoved through an algorithm. These languages have their own alphabets with unique styles. Different messages can be seen throughout the game, and they doo say things. For instance, the grineer letters on the side of the Zarr simply say "BOOM." There is also someone who translated corrupted Vor's entire monolog into corpus. And read it aloud.
Aight, I'm out. Peace!
This is not fun fact but whole backstory of game development
I played both (~500 hours on Destiny 2 and ~4k hours on Warframe) and liked both.
I stopped playing Destiny when they vaulted 2 starter campaigns and a lot of other content. I didn't play it from the beginning so i was behind on a lot of content and was trying to catch up.
The problem is that D2 has a lot of time limited content so i was always distracted by the fomo and didn't had time to just complete the older content. Then Bungie just removed them.
I was already burned out on the constant rush to finish the new content before it goes away and it was just too much.
Warframe on the other hand is a much more relaxed game. You can do every content at your own pace. Even the rewards for time limited events can be obtained later from other sources (other than some cosmetics). WF has a battlepass too called Nightwaves but its free and you always have enough time to get all the rewards in time even if you start a couple of weeks later.
There is some time gating with crafting times and daily standing limit plus a lot of grinding but i still think WF respects your time a lot more than Destiny.
If you are someone like me who likes to play a variety of games at a time then Warframe is a better fit because it doesn't feel like you are forced to play or you miss out on content.
As someone who still plays d2 and has around 1500 hours in it, I wholeheartedly feel your pain with the game. The endless rushing content (FOMO) is anxiety inducing, and I have burned out on it many times. The neglected starter experience is painful to witness. It's insanely bad compared to the Red War campaign.
Bungie says they're changing the seasonal model in Lightfall (the next expansion coming February), but I don't know how much that changes things.
I really love Destiny 2. The art, music, story, and raids are incredible. However, I can't maintain the destiny 2 lifestyle anymore.
And warframe and all expansions for it are free, no seasonal $10 charge crap.
@@newax_productions2069Yes. The best part is that you never miss out on content just because you couldn't play or were taking a break from the game.
Even if you skip a nightwave (the battlepass) unique rewards from it will return eventually so you can earn them later.
It allows me to choose when i want to play more rather than being forced to grind even if i'm not in the mood.
The only choice Destiny 2 gives you is either grind now or probably lose out on the content. In many cases i had to choose between progressing the story or doing the daily and weekly bounty grind. It became a chore.
@@SubZole i tend to play destiny 2 at the beginning of seasons and then switch to warframe. It's safe to say i have more hours in warframe than destiny at the moment. The seasonal model ruins Destiny.
@@newax_productions2069 The biggest problem is that they just remove all that new content at the end of every season. I would have liked to complete all the new story missions, complete the achievements and complete all the rewards but i never had the time for it. Its so dumb.
Imagine watching a series on Netflix and they would just remove the older season whenever a new one comes out.
I play both games a lot and experience burnout in both games often too. I’d give both games a try and see what works for y’all.
Currently I've been taking a break from both games and just playing Horizon FW. Both D2 & WF get repetitive fast, and I'm just waiting for the next big content to drop
I've played destiny since the beta, I'm moving to Warframe
just play both games, one game burns you out, play the other, and repeat
For me, the variety in Destiny 2 outweighs the fun movement in Warframe. Actually playing the game just got boring quickly since I didn’t have anything new to use without heavy grinding of the exact same stuff. In destiny, I can go play PVP or try some new build much more easily.
@@TheHeadincharge Good point, what I like in destiny 2 is it's pretty easy to switch builds. In warframe u have to do all this forma and constant leveling to try out builds, that is probably the part that annoyed me the most, how it would punish u for trying to experiment
When you slotted Crash Course onto your acceltra, it physically hurt me.
my favourite thing about warframe is basically everything u do u will get something that you can put to use even if you didn’t get exactly what u wanted
Well laid out video! Also very clear and concise!!
PSA: Even though this video is only 11 days old, it's already slightly out of date. As of 3 hours ago (0900 PST, Jan 11th), there's been a MASSIVE update to the progression system for armor mods. The update is, it's been entirely removed, and all mods are now available to everyone by default, except for seasonal mods or mods from raids.
Yep warframes mod system is too much to grind making d2 better
Imma like this so that it gets more attention
The script was like five months old, only barely caught the text that said it when he made the elon musk joke
@@piplupp6059 And god-roll grinding *isn't* too much?
The thing about mods in Warframe is that once you get them, they're yours for good. You can apply the same one to every new weapon/warframe/companion/etc that comes out.
Meanwhile in Destiny that god-roll weapon is only going to be best-in-slot until the end of the season, after which you effectively have to start grinding all over again.
@@piplupp6059
Thats funny lol
I have played both, and so should you. They aren't as similar as others might say, and they both give unique experiences. I love them both
I've been a Destiny 2 player for about 5 years. I came across this video at random when a friend asked if I'd thought about playing Warframe. Imagine my utter shock to see Cbo (aka Bones of Ayo) in your vid!!! I've known him almost as long as I've been playing. Wild coincidence.
I’ve played both, imo, they’re foo different from each other outside of a general space magic theme
That FOMO thing hit me so hard! That's exactly why I left as well. I was even dreaming about Destiny 2!
800 in both ppppppssssshhhhhh im at 2500 warframe and 2100 in D2, videos great i think you did a great job with pros and cons of both keep up the great work.
I have about 100 hours in Destiny 2 and 200 hours in Warframe and TBH this video did a great explanation of both experiences. Destiny 2 definitely has more varied content especially if you want a PVP aspect because as far as the Warframe community is concerned the PVP is almost never played by anyone. Warframe is almost always some form of PVE where as Destiny 2 can be PVP PVE or some mixture of both. Great coverage of the differences here.
One thing missed in the video: Warframe has 4 more mission types: rescuing a hostage, hacking into a data vault (ideally stealthily), completing an Orokin obstacle course, and looking for Syndicate statues
Granted, all of these can devolve into "kill everyone", but that's mostly player volition (unless there's a change of plans)
EDIT: also Orokin Trial Chambers (the obstacle course) can randomly appear in the middle of Void maps, the Void's version of Spy missions straight-up involves time travel puzzles, while the Derelict maps can randomly spawn a Corrupted Mod Vault which opens if you have the correct keys equipped - Warframe just has these random scripted events sometimes
Oh, and if you see a shiny blue data orb, a purple data triangle, or a golden amogus with cat ears, scan it with those scanners you get at the store for credits. You get free stuff in the Orbiter
"change of plans, don't hack it, just kill everyone" - space mom, probably
@@vhfulgencioi always laugh when that happens, she is thirsty for blood
theres also disruption, mirror defense, defection, index, arena, duviri, railjack, orphix, flood, cascade, armageddon, assault, and break narmer. and im probably still missing one or two
About the content in warframe there´s still the sorties, eidolons hunt, nightmare mission, kuva hunt, arbitration, sesonal events and archon hunts.
lich system, railjack, necramech, archwing, narmer missions and now duviri and undercroft
I play both, Both are awesome, Each has their cons and pros but they are amazing
I used to play both, but my Xbox account got hacked in 2017 and I lost destiny, d2, and warframe. I re-downloaded warframe on pc and PS to start over, but D2 Just takes so much time. Definitely want to play it again now.
I played warframe for 300 hours I only had one big gripe with the game and that's the wait times for crafting, getting the materials for said crafting, and a dummy slow early to mid game
i think warframes comes in handy when you wanna do some money generation like you can grind things which rich guy was buying for 200 platinums and later on sell it to get platinum . its best when you see grinding and playing actually powers you up and gives you something . also when i played dstiny 2 it kinda give vibes of offline battle royale but in warframe you get each and everything new there is story , there are missions , there is open world and then there is pve stuff you can play
Man this channel is underated! nice vid
I played both games for quite a while initially. I stopped when I burned out after about the same time. The difference is I keep coming back to D2. Every year Ill play a season or two (3-4 months). I tried going back to Warframe in a similar fashion but I couldnt really get into it again.
I play Warframe for 4 years I started in my Xbox One I bought a computer just to get better graphics and oh my God it was beautiful I remember we used to do long runs me and my buddies 3 hours plus just killing enemies level 4,000 it was beautiful the bilts that you can make on this game is top of the line I used to love my Mac and my Nova back in those days man it was beautiful I don't know how the game is currently but you should give it a try it's a long journey but it's worth it and when you're done with that journey just let the game go to another game that's all I can tell you guys
Men I’m from the before kubrow era
that gambit part hit me in a deep personal way
Besides the thumbnail that gives away that small youtuber vibes, I thought you had over 100k. Very good video my guy
When I saw that you only had 340 subs I was shocked. This video is really well put together not only in terms of flow but minor things like audio levels sound great. Keep it up and I'm sure the algorithm will bless you soon (Though based on the view count as of now... It looks like it already has)
I play both fairly consistently and I love both of them so my recommendations play both but play which ever one you like more the most
TLDR-play through both but grind the one you like more
I was a huge Destiny addicct, since D1 Year 1 a little bit before The Taken King, I dropped out D2 after the first 3 "expansions" and came back after the Cayde DLC, and then dropped again, I don't know It just wasn't hitting the way It used to be... I'm kinda glad that I dropped Destiny in a way, because I played alone and and It was kinda like a drug to me... Well now I play Warframe from times to times and It is really cool and kinda relaxing in a way...
Great video btw, congrats from Brasil and keep the good work, gained a subscriber.
really appreciate the effort that went into this video! As a person who grinded heavily in D1, and only played D2 till end of main story, im looking to get back in to one of these. D2 is probably where i'll end up as i have time dedicated there already but this video def helped
Play all the dlc you will have a blast
This video convinced my brother to try Warframe after years of him only playing Destiny and me playing both. You did in 20mins what I couldn’t do in 4 years. Also, have you tried STAR CITIZEN YET? I’d love to see what you think of that game! Subbed!
Thanks man! I'd love to try star citizen properly sometime. But every time I do a free flight it runs like dogshit even though I've got the recommended stats. Here's hoping sometime soon!
@@Sonny_D I would say Star Citizen is at its worst during freeflight, as there are so many server-side actions that must be accounted for that servers often reset throughout the day. And if the server is under high-load, then all the players present on it will face stuttering and lag.
To play Star Citizen, I would recommend getting 64GB of RAM so you can allocate some resources to streaming it (the game itself takes about 27GB or so as of 3.17). Even so, a lot of high-end CPUs may not get above 30FPS depending on the location (like New Babbage). There is a 5 fps difference and much less stuttering if you run it on an M.2 drive vs your regular SATA SSD. HDDs do not work at all on Star Citizen.
Hope this clears things up about what to expect out of it; when it works, it's great, but Star Citizen truly is a broken mess that needs a lot of patience otherwise.
You mean jank citizen?
@@outbreakperfected5704Glad we get 3.18 this month. Form what the testers who already played say the performance increase is pretty good
that should have not taken 4 years
Getting into either is overwhelming imo. Already sank way too much time and money into D2 so I'll stay with that. Just the thought of trying to get into Warframe scares me. Guarentee it would be the other way around is I had been playing Warframe for the last 8 years of my life.
Nearly all live service games are like this. It's the curse of a game being around for more than a few years. But in a way that's part of why they're great. It may be a lot to take in and can be overwhelming, but that just means there's so much new things to learn and have fun with.
I will say you get far more bang for your buck with Warframe than Destiny.
Thanks for showing us the PvP! Reminds me why I don't wanna tear my hair out fighting a instant reload flying warlock with GLs like Jotun. Terrible.
Destiny Raids are some of the greatest gaming content out there. I used to solo the Crota raid, one of my greatest feats in gaming. But completing the Last Wish raid blew my mind. Especially when you are engaged with the lore.
the lore overall is fking godlike.
i also liked the short story about the drifter and his adventure to that icy planet with the things that start hunting in the night.
and i like how not everything is explained directly like you're a lil child on papas leg who tell you a goodnight story.
its not truely hidden like in the soulsborne serie
you can find it nearly everywhere and mostly dont need a wiki.
and if you want a good "audiobook" you have "my name is byf" who tell you everything about the story.
Its a shame many people will never get to play the raids. I did a few on D1 and D2. Excellent, but i dont have the time to grind up to the raid then learning it as well.
I will say he did under sell raids in destiny
It has the coolest settings the best music and really weird mechanics and puzzles
One common example is some of the teams being able to see something and the others can actually do something about it requiring communication. And if u are a solo player they have a LFG feature to find others with a companion app but it will get rolled into the game soon. And most PvE activities can be turned into “harder but better loot”
Srsly tho raids r the best in destiny. But the FOMO is real
Yeah d2 raids are great for the first time... but then even thinking about doing it again sets off PTSD
@@x_Ikigai_xI’ll bet your a solo player lfg raiding with idiots. Play With friends or good players and it’s always fun.
@@thunderclap2060 I play with 2 friends then lfg the rest
@@x_Ikigai_xNext time you find some RATIONAL, REASONABLE LF FUCKING G’s, try and invite them to the next thing you do. That’s how i got a stable raiding fireteam for a year.
Raids are fun the first 10 or so times, after that they can get annoying.
I do both and thousands hours in both. I love both as much but for different reasons.
Play both and hop between the two if you get bored of one lol
Never thought 2 of my favourite games would get compared.
There is a power cap after a time for weapons and armor in destiny no matter how many times you did the raid to get a specific item. And it’s the opposite in warframe where the earlier you get a prime weapon after a while it gets vaulted and less people have it giving its rivens stronger stats and also you can farm for plat and just buy shit. I do wish we had raids in warframe tho or something similar sorties aren’t really challenging since you typically have at least one guy one shot ing everything.
Raid veteran here, they killed off Jordas Verdict and Law of Retribution as it's only played by a small amount of players(definitely not because they never advertised it ingame), killing off a Warframe raid specific Discord server. They took it out as with each update, something would break the raids making them impossible to complete or require glitches to actually finish them. When Earth tileset rework came out, LoR floors went missing. JV was so broken players had to glitch their way through to skip the broken part, which they then fix the exploit but not the actual game-breaking bug itself.
What I miss more is not having the capability to play with 8 players in one game anymore.
I mean, not quite the same but archon hunts kinda fill that role for me as a raid type of mission
@@damearstor2120there used to be a way to play with 8 players by inviting them to your orbiter, having them leave your square (but stay in orbiter), then inviting other people to join your squad. When you would launch a mission, everyone would join, so you could have 8 people
I played both a lot but I haven’t really touched warframe in a while it really hit me with burn out with the necramech grind I really do not like the reputation system in warframe. also the crafting time but I might go back to it.
10:46 appreciate the recognition of titan fall, but my man clearly never heard of ultra kill
Great video, thats for sure a sub! Just a bit confusing on the timestamps halfway into it, but aside from that, amazing! I now know that i wont have time and sanity to play destiny2, so imma stick to warframe :)
I've never played destiny, and as such cannot speak on its quality in this regard, but warframe has some of the most in depth lore of most games I've played, and the story based cinematics throughout the game are super well done and sometimes emotionally deep. The game has a lot of aspects this video didn't touch on, such as railjack (a spaceship you grind to build and upgrade to do space based missions with dogfights, infiltrating enemy faction ships, etc.), necramechs (battle mechs that you also grind to build and upgrade), archwings (same thing, can be used in space missions and open world areas), and the accompanying archweapons for archwings and necramechs and (after some faction grinding) archguns can be used by your warframes. Again, I can't speak for destiny, but I don't feel this video did warframe enough justice. Yep, it's grindy af, but there's more to do and focus on than This video gave credit for. Oh, there's also clans with clan halls that can be designed, built, and decorated literally however you want. Of course, this also requires lots of grinding for materials, but it's just another aspect this video didn't even touch on. Build your dojo and decorate it up enough and your clan hall may end up being "featured" (like a special shout out on the star chart for every player in the game to see). Clan halls can be visited by other players, you can have obstacle courses for anyone and everyone to enjoy, etc. And then there's fashion framing. Ya, he mention cosmetics, but the customization in warframe is pretty damned extensive. Armor pieces, syandana (back pieces, capes, etc), ephemera (glowy auras etc), skins, color options... there's a reason many say that fashion framing is the true endgame. Can get expensive, but that's what platinum trading is for.
I HAVE 2K HOURS IN WARFRAME AND I AM RETURING TO D2 now because wf can be very draining both are very good games with pros and cons
I think it's honestly better to play both. Playing one or the other too much burns people out.
I've played very little Destiny(2) compared to Warframe, but what I can say is that Destiny just throws you into the story and has very interesting lore. The only downside other than the tiresome seasonal grind is probably the expansions being paid and the older ones getting sunsetted as you mentioned in your video. It was also easier to understand as at core, it probably comes under the most popular and common genre, FPS.
Warframe on the other hand....well lets just say it's not as newbie-friendly as Destiny.....
When I first started playing, I really liked the gameplay, the movement and the fact that you are given the choice between gunning down hoards of enemies or being stealthy. But then I started watching videos as I felt as though the only thing going for the game was, the gameplay and finishing the Star Chart. Boy was I wrong.....
This a really good video thanks for y job
Only thing missed in the video are the travel types in Warframe: K-drive, Archwing, and Railjack. K-drive is a hoverboard and is like playing Tony Hawk, do tricks for points to level up with the K-drive kids and upgrade your boards. Archwing is the flying jetpack type thing you can use on the planets, and in Railjack missions. The Railjack is a huge starfigher/warship that gives you outer space missions that you can play co-op with friends. Destiny only has Sparrows for travel, and Bungie has totally screwed up IMO not having intergalactic space battles like Warframe does. When you play a Railjack mission, you will be asking yourself "Why isn't this in Destiny?"
You forgot Necramechs :D
Personally don't like railjacks, they feel so clunky, which I get is the point for big ship, but just kinda clashes with the fast fluid movement the rest of the game has
@@jinxed_slaps It's an acquired taste indeed, but I like it, everything that changes the gameplay is something I always welcome. From K-drives, archwings, rail jack, nechramechs, and the khal missions. Hate stealth in khal's though.
Destiny kinda tried to do a sorta-Railjack thing with Ketchcrash... But that's best described as "Railjack ultra-lite"
@@jinxed_slaps you can get mods to speed ip your railjack
I’ve played and enjoyed both but I feel like the whole point of Warframe is to grind, I never really just did something to chill like I do in destiny, I like both games a lot though
Loved the FF14 song at the end ❤ great content!
there is some FOMO for warframe, some seasonal events have really powerful items. Some of them come back annually, other events (called Operations) are gone once over
there are daily missions, weekly bosses, treasure hunts, etc, but all of those are repeatable and never stop
there are daily login rewards with some meta mods gated behind you logging in 400+ days (not consecutive). I have 400h+ and still havent reached 400 logins and so havent got the mod Primed Sure Footed which is a really good mod for lategame content
After watching this video having not played either, it got me thinking... Why not both? Pick the one you like most to be your main, then play the other one in down times when you're bored of the other game or waiting for gear/quests
With Destiny 2 you can't. If you don't commit to playing it heavily then you won't be geared or leveled up enough to do the content you want. If you don't keep up with it and maintain playtime you can't just hop on and do anything other than low level activities or some modes of pvp.
How'd it go? Which one did you pick? Did you stick with either for more than a month?
@@Wooskii1 I haven't touched either of them due to internet issues unfortunately
@@user-kk4bq7mb8uYep that's true
Because of you want to play Warframe it sucks your time and if you play Destiny 2 it sucks your soul and your money xd
Anyone starting warframe, I personally recommend picking mag. Her bullet jump picks up nearby items (very useful and a must in the beginning) and her abilities make her a godly frame with borderline unlimited damage scaling magnet bubbles (damage is based on projectiles entering, yours and enemies) and that bubble can also act as a sheild too.
See I would play Warframe but I'm stuck with a frame I chose like 2 years ago as my starting one and I couldn't reset so I just stopped playing
I did not start with Mag, but she is one of my favorite frames now. I tell new players to start with Volt or Mag because at the beginning they will not be powerful and will lack all the mods that make them strong. This will enforce them having to learn their abilities and how they synergize instead of Excal's ability to tank a lot more early on and his easy to use abilities.
@@MyopicFox If you want Mag she can be farmed out pretty early on in all honesty. You could join someone via chat if you don't have it unlocked and farm away.
@@MyopicFox Check your stuff. Might be able to grab a different frame if you get a market coupon. That's how most people get the hard to farm frames like Ash and atlas.
Yeah I'll redownload it and try it again
one thing missing is the amount of free shop currency you can get in warframe by literally just farming
I switched over to linux recently, and trying to get back into warframe since i use to grind the living shit out of that gaem, and I just forgot how much it has it actually overwhelmed me. Both Destiny and Warframe hold a special place in heart, and i cant really chose one over the other.
Back when Warframe was in the Beta years, I was known as the Zephyr who murdered everything that moved (even when she was supposed to be used for stealth most of the time).
Now, I lived for two years in Destiny 2, and all the info I've watched here is exactly the summation. Many unfortunate game choices and decisions Bungie has put players through, but it's hard to hate a game where the mechanics are exciting (not that Warframe isn't exciting, mind you, but I have literally no idea what's going on now since 5 years ago).
To each their own, love and respect to both games and players (except the T-baggers and team killers. You know who you are).
Cheers for the reviews!
Uhhh lmfaooo
Men you wasn’t known lol we was known we was the richest in chat selling kubrows
As an Octavia main since I first started playing 5-6 year ago, you put a smile on my face.
As a lover of the Jotunn, I’m even more happy.
As a Hunter, damned Paint drinking warlock.
Just discovered your content and am loving this! Def keeping up with ya now!
I still remember the expression I made when I found out Octavia didn't come with all her notes/tunes... hardest plat farm I did in warframe
Just need some of those Familiar Debt Bonds to get to Old Mate...
Just imagine what the baby of these two games would be...
Question: Should I play Warframe or Destiny 2?
Me: Yes.
Honestly ya. If you like looter shooters, you should at least try both.
Warframe does look pretty neat, and I’m glad to learn more about it!
For me, D2’s endgame is having fun with my build and the satisfaction of skill increase with your tools. :) I’d imagine Warframe could be thought of similarly.
Keep in mind there was a GamesRadar article for Destiny 2 after they did the Lightfall reveal. The Power system was directly called about and they’re going to be running experiments throughout Lightfall for data. They also mentioned they’d like to eventually get the old content back in the game when they can rewrite it to handle that. I have faith Bungie really wants to make it really good, especially if they want it to last past The Final Shape. Especially with how they’re really showing that they want to improve the new player experience.
This, of course, does not invalidate your experiences and I do feel similarly. I understand the technical limitations the game went through once plans changed to not having a D3.
Warframes story is on another level of sadness and anger.
Did they really say that they would bring the old content back? If so, that's amazing!
@@abhishekrajesh2300 really your okay with paying for content we already had, im getting sick of it tbh, id much rather pay bungie for something brand new instead of rehashed poop.
The fact that they have to say “collect data to make improvements for things forward” when the game has been out for more than 3 years with tons of paid DLCs and season passes says a lot. They constantly change and go back on decisions they make in the game they “though was good” just to add it back later again. Didn’t they already get rid of everything pre Forsaken and now they’ll be bringing old stuff back again? What backwards thinking is that? Bungie needs to figure out what it’s doing before I would spend more time playing a nowhere as good D1
Too bad buildcrafting is a shell of its former self ever since Lightfail
Warframes weapons be like: spear gun exsist
all warframe players: i ignore that.
Been playing Warframe since 2014 and it's only gone downhill for the last few years. Massive delays on content and the game just being dry in general. I at least still log into Destiny 2 every day to grind rolls and do Dungeons and Raids (2 things Warframe does not have). Warframe I do an Archon Hunt and then check out for the rest of the week. Warframe needs an endgame and it needed it 7 years ago.
For sure one of the strengths of Destiny is the consistency of content releases and having proper aspirational content with dungeons, nightfalls, and raids.
I ve got +800 hours on warframe and recently I started playing destiny 2(got +-40 hours). While I got confused when I started playing both games, it didnt took long for me to get used to warframe(thanks to the community), oposed to destiny. And as some people said, wf is a game that you can hook on at any time and play, while destiny requires a lot more continuous dedication.
I think both games are great, but I think warframe is more rewarding and forgiving to play.
Duviri Paradox in April is changing New Player experience as people can play any offered gear that day free. Kinda like Heroes of the Storm, you get to pick a loadout from that day and see how it feels. If you already own the item, it takes your personal version instead. So say I get Ivara Prime, Daikyu, Brakk and Corufell - only Brakk as I currently haven't got it; would be unavailable outside the Paradox
"warframe roguelike" really should not work even a quarter as well as it does. conceptually it sounds like it would be dead in the water but in practice its super fun and novel.
@@thesatelliteslickers907 exactly. I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Warframe 1999 and a Clan Operation are in the works so lots to look forwards to. I think that's why First Descendant is more like Warframe though interesting to see it progress here on out
Ive played both. Started Warframe way back in its hay day and dropped off to play other stuff and have come back. Played Destiny 1 and Destiny 2 and i can say i have issues just getting into to it. Im just burnt out on it, i play randomly only because a good friend of mine loves it.
As a destiny player.... pick warframe
For me it came down to community and in that regard Warframe had it hands down, I have experienced nothing but love when playing Warframe, I cant think of a single interaction with another player in Warframe that hasn't been an offer of help or advice or just general pleasant chat, I could say mostly the same about Destiny however I do run into alot of shelfish or just generally toxic people in that game on most days, I like both games but I feel far more at ease in the Warframe community
Same, I'm new to warframe and everyone is very friendly. Destiny is a typical console lobby
These are my 2 favourite games but I’ve played so much I’m in the content drought for both