I still remember how I farmed all of ash's parts twice completely by accident when I was trying to farm for harrow systems. Ah Harrow, a warframe whose aquisition description in the warframe wiki should be: Just Farm it's prime parts it'll be quicker.
Worst thing about cutscene Ash: many players experienced motion sickness Best thing about cutscene Ash: I got to watch a cinematic representation of me one-shotting my whole team in a rad hazard sortie.
@@fixo5132 good thing I just got reminded of this comment by someone liking it, because very recently my friend got ash prime so we went ash-ing for a bit on kuva fortress, and I realized that if you teleport to an enemy who is marked, you actually personally kill the marked enemies until they're *all* dead
@@fixo5132 thing is, something *very funny* happened while we we're doing a sortie, the third mission was assassinate mutalist alad v, I think you can guess what happened
Fem-Ash was super early on when there was a potential plan for the frames having a male and a female version. It's why Excal and Nyx are almost identical body wise. It was scrapped super early on.
Im actually glad you didn't cover the literal arcane wizardry of ash's 'specter" bladestorm builds. One of those few things that is almost literally an eldritch horror in that the more you look at it, the more cursed it gets and the more confusing it gets and the less sense the rest of the game makes because as you start to understand how/why it works you start questioning everything else in the game.
@@NovaUmbral I feel im pretty well versed in warframe after playing it for 8 years on and off lol. Which is why i love your videos. But man, diving into the "weaponless specter" ash build stuff made me feel small. No one needs to be reading that stuff!
I remember when radiation hazard sorties were a problem because of this. You'd have to keep a close eye on ash in case he got radiated and just murdered the whole team. Luckily I mained Saryn at the time and the monent the ash gets radiated, I ult and kill him before he can kill us. Oh and back then Saryn's spores spread so much faster.
I was never into ash personally, except when his 4 didn't require you to aim around. When they added that i dropped him immediately as i never had energize and we didn't have other better energy gain sources to counter his horrible energy economy. I used him for a tiny bit when i heard that savage silence boosted his 4 only to realize even with decent strength his 'amazing' bladestorm wouldn't always one shot enemies so i just gave up on him due to all the extra effort when shooting my guns did more damage. These days, ive only used him a few times for disruption missions due to his slash boosts helping against grineer where i don't even have to do anything but shoot enemies with Conventrix, no special set up or build up just shoot. But eh. I don't think ill ever use him because the gameplay of armor stripping aoe mag followed by pulling them into a pile and one shotting them with a glaive just can't be matched by him lol. At least hes the only thematically appropriate "ninja" in the game?
@@MyDemon32for as much as I like Ash, OP is 100% right. Other frames can do what Ash does way easier and way faster. That’s why Ash needs some help. Either make Blade Storm a pseudo-exalt again (which DE doesn’t seem too keen on doing), or at the very least improve its usability and tweak some other abilities to bring it in line with modern Warframe
Ash, boy oh boy where do I even begin? Dear Prince Ash Prime, I am writing this letter to express my utmost admiration and respect for your unparalleled talent and leadership both on and off the starchart. Your dedication to the game, work ethic, and commitment to excellence serve as an inspiration to millions of fans around the world. Your ability to elevate your teammates, make clutch plays in crucial moments, and consistently perform at the highest level is truly remarkable. Your frame IQ, versatility, and all-around skills make you one of the greatest players to ever grace the Solar System. But it is not just your athletic prowess that sets you apart, Prince Ash Prime. Your philanthropic efforts, activism, and commitment to social justice make you a true role model and a beacon of hope for those in need. Your generosity and compassion towards others have made a positive impact on countless lives, and your dedication to giving back to your community is truly commendable. In conclusion, I want to thank you for all that you have done for the game of Warframe, for your community, and for being a shining example of what it means to be a true leader. Long live Prince Ash Prime, may your reign continue to inspire and uplift all those who have the privilege of witnessing your greatness. ❤
I would definitely support Bladestorm targeting becoming a cone rather than having to touch each individual enemy. Some targeting powers definitely need QoL improvement, as casting abilities like Spore or Smite involves spamming the button so they come out consistently.
God keep this golden content coming I love long form videos for Warframe Could you make a video about the raids that were in Warframe I think they are a piece of history that deserves to be covered ofc it’s up to you please keep up the amazing work!
Melee arcanes are such a huge buff for Ash. A rank 1 Melee Crescendo gives him the ability to make any melee have permanent 12x combo and that means his Bladestorm does bleed procs in the millions. Savage Silence Ash has made the game trivial with Arcane Trickery with an UN-NULLIFIABLE invisibility and room clearing capabilities.
I love watching these in depth history videos so much as a player who started in Year 3 of wf but quit until year 6. They are so informative and such good quality. Keep up the good job! Also, Melee Crescendo is also a buff. Infinite easy 12x because of his 4
thanks for this video I gotten ash prime the other day and im loving ash prime. I was looking for an ash video from u too literally on last Friday, too no treasure found. Im happy to see my new main being talked by u
certainly needs some slight updates, maybe 2 seconds to his base duration of smakescreen and a change to his teleport to make it not be a ...... worse Wrathful Advance.....
Great video but one thing you forgot to add was the duviri circuit and how you can ignore that pesky railjack mission and just grind ash and how that increased his accessability
Tysm for your vids bro, i genuinely like watching em, i even saw like 8 of your vids in a row and thought that youd be a bigger ytber but when i looked at your channel i was surprised asthe quality of your vids are soo good.
"Ash wasn't able to keep up" hit me on a personal level. Yes, I'm not keeping up. I'm running around solo with a bow and don't care that bladestorm is sluggish. I wasn't even aware that there was this much discussion around my boy. I remember when I got him people didn't like him (that's when bladestorm got slower apparently) and always sticked with the impression that he is not popular. Then again, I'm not playing disruption and don't pay attention to the meta. Which is exactly why I will always love him, I play him for what he is no matter how strong. He is the Ninja in ninjas play free, he is the most space ninja of all space ninjas. Great video as always, hope you guys are having a great day
As an ash main since 2013 this is an awesome trip down memory lane. Took five years off and now i’m back because of crossplay. I gotta say, The addition of helminth has added so much depth to ash, plus smoke shadow’s crit buff, PLUS archon shards has made for some crazy fun and effective builds. Gloom on ash can create an unkillable tank. Wrathful advance is a different FT. Roar, Xata’s, and eclipse plus smoke shadow make for great dps. Aquablades is hilarious with invis. Creeping Terrify is great for when you want to run ash as an armor stripping defense frame. The possibilities are endless and i’ve been having an absolute blast with him since coming back. I’m about to build my third ash prime just so i can min max and make more helminth builds
I love Ash and Bladestorm Ash has been my favourite frame for years, is super cool and strong. Years ago, when I played Ash for the first time, I wasn't too impressed, but ever since his Bladestorm rework (with the marks), I'm madly in love. Plus, Ash Prime is super hawt. Before his quality of life patch, I had still complained about the marking mechanism, but that's better now. Honestly, I wish he had more interaction with clones instead of further straight Bladestorm buffs, since they are a part of his lore and Bladestorm already is very strong, but I don't care which ability gains the clones, I just want more 😀 If he would summon clones on Smoke Screen or Teleport that stagger, stun or stealth kill at his side. Or if the use of Shuriken would add clones to Bladestorm. Or if clones would randomly appear and mark targets for takedown (I know, maybe too many marks 😸). His Smoke Screen doesn't necessarily need duration because with shorter duration you can recast it and stagger enemies over and over, but ever since Whispers in the Wall, I run Energy Nexus and dropped Streamline and the minus duration one, which is funnily enough more efficient than these two. Actually, Ash is very fine at the moment.
Yeah I never understood how moving Ash and Oberon into Railjack made any sense or did anything for the gamemode other than artifically boosting the number of people who played it by forcing people who wanted to farm Ash or Oberon to do Railjack or how it made getting Ash or Oberon feel any better. For Sevagoth it made sense why his farm was in Railjack. His lore is that he was the captain of a renowned rescue Railjack.
One thing you didn't mention is that when the Dark Sector update arrived, we used to have attack-defense mode for each clan's solar rail to battle for dark sector's node ownership and profit from taxes. So basically you attack and or defend your solar rail from other clan member pvp style, and how do we cheese that mission? Ash's bladestorm, basically just rush in, press 4, and push.
@@NovaUmbral yeah it was like, the obscure time of warframe, it was the peak of Alliance-Clan cooperation and backstabbing. Ash's Bladestorm and (iirc) nova's 4 before it was changed to a wave was the go to for "tryhard clans".
Ash is so so fun, all he needs is high duration and a slash weapon, he can do anything in game with this set up, or you can go the bladestorm route but i prefer guns and invisibility
I'd be down for all the changes you listed. I'd only add slight bump to Smokebomb duration and give Bladestorm a Peacemakers-like reticle with which you have easier time marking enemies quick and in wider area. With new LoS changes, it will not be blocked by clutter as much as well. And have clones execute enemies immediately, rather than one at a time. Dante can wipe the room with a press of a button, I don't see why Ash has to be so scuffed doing the same thing.
My Favorite Warframe of all time. The Warframe I played the most. The Warframe that I find the most interesting. When I first found your channel I was sad that Ash didnt have an Entry. ASH BRO'S ASSEMBLE
Ash's popularity is proof that he's just unfun and outdated. He has less playtime than loki lol. The supposed endurance S tier frame is barely even used in endurance anymore. As you said there's much better and beginner friendly options. This is just sad and his 1/3/4 needs rework or big improvements. Bladestorm should not require marking that's such a unfun and clunky, slow nuke in the game. Keep it LoS and that's fine. Aslong as marking exists, no one will use Bladestrom. Dante can nuke anything in his LOS without needing to mark anything. Ash deserves better even if his OG Bladestorm was too strong. They absolutely killed it and it shows DE's design philosophy was much harder back then. I agree with your shuriken and teleport changes. The sad thing is tho because Ash is more viable than few other characters, he's probably never going to get these big changes.
I miss the press 4 to win ash 😢 the good old days i wish they would give a argument that removes the manual targeting or maybe allow us tap/hold option for auto Targeting 😢
for the moving of ash to railjack instead of the maniacs or whatever, i never got in many years of playing more than 1 ash part from those guys, the type of mission i run the most is grineer and those guys almost never appeared to my, i can count in my fingers, actually my first ash was the ash prime they gave at tennocon
I am, to this day, one of the people the Bladestorm gutting was aimed at. I like the animation (jank and all), and I just found it really funny to be able to see one guy's ankle and press 4 on that to clear the entire room behind him Bad for the game? Absolutely, 100% Good for me? Absolutely, 100% The nerf was needed but damn do I miss those days
And then Ivara came along, with her Prowl Augment making her invisibility better than Loki's and Ash's due to being able to also ignore environmental hazards... And her exalted bow having its known uses, like actual combat... And floof hunting once that was introduced. Night Equinox's Rest is also good for floof hunting, but (shrugs)
Tbh , at this point in time DE could let ash ultimate use his melee weapon again. Enemies are way bulkier and we are only dealing finisher dmg , also , ash is not easy to farm by any means , by the time a player gets him , he should be done with almost all the mid-game and starting to dip their toes into things like arbitration and SP. But hey , I still use ash from time to time , he is a very fun frame and with savage silence he can put up some serious dmg.
Personally I like your suggestions for Ash, he really can just be fixed with a few minor tweaks. - Shuriken getting more Shurikens by default is a good idea, but I would also suggest making it so enemies hit with Shuriken have a higher chance to proc Bleed from all sources. Kind of like a weaker Garuda 4m the status chance is higher, but not guaranteed. If you hit an enemy with a Shuriken, they are also prioritized first by your Shadow Clones to make killing specific targets easier. Just so the ability has a use as a Helminth option and on Ash himself without the Augment. - Going to just say I agree with the Teleport changes overall. Not much to add there, but I would hope the new Augment adds something like a Marked for Death function to Teleport instead. - Bladestorm and it's QoL would also seriously benefit a Tap and Hold functionality, wherein the ability would only end if you Hold Cast, and Tap Casts just activate the clones. That way, continuous Bladestorm casts are easier, hopefully helping him with his generally clunky gameplay. Less button presses and something like an actual reticle as you've stated would be appreciated.
I would make bladestorm just a long cone or rectangle that checks for enemies in LoS and then sends in a clone that teleports around and strikes those enemies. Having to activate it, then mark enemies, then activate it again, then wait for all enemies to be struck is really clunky. Either that or make it so you hold bladestorm to mark enemies and then release to cast on those enemies.
The existence of the Harmony scythe has completely CRACKED Ash's potential wide open. Heavy build Harmony with a melee focussed Ash with Smoke Shadow and Wrathful Advance will regularly hit in the MILLIONS per heavy melee, occasionally hitting the 2.1B cap and sometimes even overflowing it to something like -1.4M. Absolutely absurd and I love it, my main is living his best life right now.
Weapon archetype does not matter regarding blade storm damage. It may be a glitch or bug, but I tried 15+ different weapons. 7 different types one with lowest unmodded damage and one with highest unmodded damage for each of the 7 categories. My damage was flat and unchanged across all 15+ weapons. I have up before splitting hairs in weapon types. Daggers Rapiers Whips Sword shield Nakanas Swords Machete All don't change damage. I also never had varying damage between animations. The last 2 enemies always had the exact increase from the multiplier. While the first 6 also had exactly the same number.
Thanks for this deep dive into Ash, one of my favorite Warframes. Do you think you'll ever look at Ivara? She's supposed to be "The Hunter" but I'm not seeing how she's much of a "Hunter." I can see Ash being a Ninja but I'm not sure frames do what DE thinks they do and it's more marketing hype than anything.
When the game first launched I used to think Ash and Excalibur were rivals or something because they had similar designs and opposing origins because ones a European knight the other is a japanese ninja
Nice recap of the different stages of ash. He is still my most used frame despite not getting much use these days, i lived in mot survival with him for a while. Badestorm needs way more speed, no matter how much damage it does the kpm is horrible. Also shuriken should strip baseline, augment should be more of them or/and marking for bladestorm. and teleport is just default subsume so whatever. He needs killing potential in groups, so making bladestorm more user friendly should be a no brainer.
One combo I love with ash is Cyam(that duviri nikana) with the arcane that gives initial combo on finishers. Bladestorm counts as finishers, deals more damage per combo multiplier and it will increase Cyam's heavy attacks. Why Cyam ? It's a cool nikana with shockwave heavy attacks ^^
You think there’s a chance that they’ll rework Ash again so that his Bladestorm is actually usable? A rework I could see is rather than having to mark enemies, he sends out shadow clones that target enemies within a certain radius of him and if we want the animation we use teleportation plus if we use smokescreen Bladestorm benefits from the stealth modifier.
I think changing bladestorm to work like Ember's inferno would've been alright and then make it a hold cast to go into the animation rather than locking it into his 3
Ash Prime is my first prime with a price of 6p. Still keep him and almost disappointed with him losing edges with each update until now. Good thing Slash procs become one of the most deadly damage in the game and Kullervo update giving him another bridge that allows him to be semi meta frame. I still miss the monochrome filter in his 4th ability.
I think that a player set mark duration for blade storm would be a good idea along with allowing for the toggle as well. the max marks still being limited by the energy cost meaning the damage and target count wont be affected and you could still activate the attack on will meaning dps wouldn't be hindered. I would say this shouldn't be effected by duration mods as low or high duration would severely limit dps by making attacks too infrequent or making blade storm practically useless as you couldn't mark enough enemies. a mark duration of like 3-4 seconds would be good id say as this is as much time as usually spend marking anyway as when you mark enough enemies i find the ability feels slow as the clones make their away around each enemy
I always thought it would be neat for the *seeking shuriken* to shred and seek new enemies as it travels through them. As a neat and new way to have armor stripping. Plus, having it tied to duration is rather abhorrent nowadays.
They ruined my bladestorm and I hate it, they could just make it so that you send shadow assassins to enemies within your LoS but no they truly make it ability to awful to cast. Now if need to kill enemies, you need to swipe your mouse across pad to do 360 or 180 to tag enemies.
Its quite unfortunate that almost all of stat stick Ash was "nerfed/fixed" honestly at least allowing over 50% attack speed would be more than enough to make BS more fluid
How ash smoked Warframe like how UA-cam smoked my channel. Appreciate the shoutout my brother so much love ❤
Hope all goes well with your channel man. Love your stuff
Man i love youtube but god damn it tends to act like a child with brain rot 70% of the time.
what a bar, but condolences from youtube's fuckery
You got smoked cause to change your pfp. The anime girl pfp isnthe way to go to not get smoke.
best of luck, loved your videos, thank you Tenno
I still remember how I farmed all of ash's parts twice completely by accident when I was trying to farm for harrow systems. Ah Harrow, a warframe whose aquisition description in the warframe wiki should be: Just Farm it's prime parts it'll be quicker.
Ironic with how constantly one of harrow's base parts drops lmao
Shame he's Vaulted now.
I wonder what I should so with my 9k harrow chassis
My own going joke: "AH! Harrow Chasis! Finally I can make my harrow!" ..."Said no one ever"
@@kotlolish me and my friend have something similar where whenever we find one we just go like "AH! guess what i just found!!! you'll never guess!"
Worst thing about cutscene Ash: many players experienced motion sickness
Best thing about cutscene Ash: I got to watch a cinematic representation of me one-shotting my whole team in a rad hazard sortie.
Omg he can do that? That can happen? Man i gotta get my hands on this guy
@@basaltcrust1915use to*
@@fixo5132 I know now, but thank you anyways :(
@@fixo5132 good thing I just got reminded of this comment by someone liking it, because very recently my friend got ash prime so we went ash-ing for a bit on kuva fortress, and I realized that if you teleport to an enemy who is marked, you actually personally kill the marked enemies until they're *all* dead
@@fixo5132 thing is, something *very funny* happened while we we're doing a sortie, the third mission was assassinate mutalist alad v, I think you can guess what happened
Fem-Ash was super early on when there was a potential plan for the frames having a male and a female version. It's why Excal and Nyx are almost identical body wise. It was scrapped super early on.
And now it turns out they're siblings
Im actually glad you didn't cover the literal arcane wizardry of ash's 'specter" bladestorm builds. One of those few things that is almost literally an eldritch horror in that the more you look at it, the more cursed it gets and the more confusing it gets and the less sense the rest of the game makes because as you start to understand how/why it works you start questioning everything else in the game.
If I did chances are DE might fix it and tbh I don’t think bladestorm needs any fixes but allow these “bugs” as new mechanics
@@NovaUmbral I feel im pretty well versed in warframe after playing it for 8 years on and off lol. Which is why i love your videos. But man, diving into the "weaponless specter" ash build stuff made me feel small. No one needs to be reading that stuff!
The ash covenant is satisfied with your efforts, you shall recieve an ash noggle for your work when the time is right
Ash is simply the best warframe
@@andres6v893 exactly brother
@@h4ven01de4 All Ash mains must gather under a single flag!
@@andres6v893 ASH MAINS REJOICE, THE ORDER 31 HAS BEEN CALLED
@@andres6v893 I totally agree he's crazy
JUST as i got ash prime you make this. i love you.
Yep, really smart to make this vid while Ash is in the resurgence
same here lol
Same mate 🤣
I got *one* of his parts amd a few relics during the resurgence, that's good right? :' )
When I see Ash’s face, I think “let me do it for you”
This man is a walking encyclopedia!!! It's amazing how you teach things in a way that makes complicated information sound so simple!!!
That suggested reticle change for Bladestorm is such a good idea. It would make the ability feel way better to use
I remember when radiation hazard sorties were a problem because of this. You'd have to keep a close eye on ash in case he got radiated and just murdered the whole team.
Luckily I mained Saryn at the time and the monent the ash gets radiated, I ult and kill him before he can kill us.
Oh and back then Saryn's spores spread so much faster.
I still miss the ol' hydron stairs molt and spores combo
I was never into ash personally, except when his 4 didn't require you to aim around. When they added that i dropped him immediately as i never had energize and we didn't have other better energy gain sources to counter his horrible energy economy.
I used him for a tiny bit when i heard that savage silence boosted his 4 only to realize even with decent strength his 'amazing' bladestorm wouldn't always one shot enemies so i just gave up on him due to all the extra effort when shooting my guns did more damage.
These days, ive only used him a few times for disruption missions due to his slash boosts helping against grineer where i don't even have to do anything but shoot enemies with Conventrix, no special set up or build up just shoot. But eh.
I don't think ill ever use him because the gameplay of armor stripping aoe mag followed by pulling them into a pile and one shotting them with a glaive just can't be matched by him lol. At least hes the only thematically appropriate "ninja" in the game?
A wall o text that amounts to nothing just to state your hate for a frame. Pathetic
@@MyDemon32 lol
@@MyDemon32cry more it's funny af😂
@@MyDemon32for as much as I like Ash, OP is 100% right. Other frames can do what Ash does way easier and way faster. That’s why Ash needs some help. Either make Blade Storm a pseudo-exalt again (which DE doesn’t seem too keen on doing), or at the very least improve its usability and tweak some other abilities to bring it in line with modern Warframe
@@someclevername8167But his bladestorm still operates as a pseudo exalt, you just dont see the stats or damage numbers from it because of stealth
Ash, boy oh boy where do I even begin?
Dear Prince Ash Prime,
I am writing this letter to express my utmost admiration and respect for your unparalleled talent and leadership both on and off the starchart. Your dedication to the game, work ethic, and commitment to excellence serve as an inspiration to millions of fans around the world.
Your ability to elevate your teammates, make clutch plays in crucial moments, and consistently perform at the highest level is truly remarkable.
Your frame IQ, versatility, and all-around skills make you one of the greatest players to ever grace the Solar System.
But it is not just your athletic prowess that sets you apart, Prince Ash Prime. Your philanthropic efforts, activism, and commitment to social justice make you a true role model and a beacon of hope for those in need. Your generosity and compassion towards others have made a positive impact on countless lives, and your dedication to giving back to your community is truly commendable.
In conclusion, I want to thank you for all that you have done for the game of Warframe, for your community, and for being a shining example of what it means to be a true leader. Long live Prince Ash Prime, may your reign continue to inspire and uplift all those who have the privilege of witnessing your greatness. ❤
I’ve been playing more ash lately, I love him, he’s very strong, glad to see this video now
He's crazy strong it's nuts
Perfect timing for me. Tjank you buddy, i really enjoy these videos. You do a fantastic job!
Dude the random subway surfers was crazy. Gotta keep up that engagement right. 😂😂
fem ash being the first concept explains a lot, actually... even now, those hips don't lie.
Fem Ash walked so wisp can run
I would definitely support Bladestorm targeting becoming a cone rather than having to touch each individual enemy. Some targeting powers definitely need QoL improvement, as casting abilities like Spore or Smite involves spamming the button so they come out consistently.
Bro… thank you for the effort put in this informative video. You’re awesome ❤
God keep this golden content coming I love long form videos for Warframe
Could you make a video about the raids that were in Warframe I think they are a piece of history that deserves to be covered ofc it’s up to you please keep up the amazing work!
Melee arcanes are such a huge buff for Ash. A rank 1 Melee Crescendo gives him the ability to make any melee have permanent 12x combo and that means his Bladestorm does bleed procs in the millions. Savage Silence Ash has made the game trivial with Arcane Trickery with an UN-NULLIFIABLE invisibility and room clearing capabilities.
I love watching these in depth history videos so much as a player who started in Year 3 of wf but quit until year 6. They are so informative and such good quality. Keep up the good job!
Also, Melee Crescendo is also a buff. Infinite easy 12x because of his 4
This is amazing timing because I’ve recently started playing ash more
Wait bring back the Subway Surfers gameplay so i can pay attention to the video again
Zoomer vibes
I forgive you for this transgression because your profile picture is really good, but be careful, even the jarls influence has its limits.
Me: quit playing league for warframe
VoidUmbral: shockblade Zed jump scare
Me: has a ptsd episode
ikr the random Shockblade Zed was spooky
thanks for this video I gotten ash prime the other day and im loving ash prime. I was looking for an ash video from u too literally on last Friday, too no treasure found. Im happy to see my new main being talked by u
Melee crescendo with glaive prime and secondary outburst is nutty these days
certainly needs some slight updates, maybe 2 seconds to his base duration of smakescreen and a change to his teleport to make it not be a ...... worse Wrathful Advance.....
Great video but one thing you forgot to add was the duviri circuit and how you can ignore that pesky railjack mission and just grind ash and how that increased his accessability
Ah crap I did, apologies for that, I think newer tenno can figure out what comes in/out of Circuit
Tysm for your vids bro, i genuinely like watching em, i even saw like 8 of your vids in a row and thought that youd be a bigger ytber but when i looked at your channel i was surprised asthe quality of your vids are soo good.
"Ash wasn't able to keep up" hit me on a personal level. Yes, I'm not keeping up. I'm running around solo with a bow and don't care that bladestorm is sluggish. I wasn't even aware that there was this much discussion around my boy. I remember when I got him people didn't like him (that's when bladestorm got slower apparently) and always sticked with the impression that he is not popular. Then again, I'm not playing disruption and don't pay attention to the meta. Which is exactly why I will always love him, I play him for what he is no matter how strong. He is the Ninja in ninjas play free, he is the most space ninja of all space ninjas.
Great video as always, hope you guys are having a great day
Love the vid and great timing. I literally have an Ashe Prime in my foundry now and looking up builds
I'm honestly surprised you haven't done a Nova episode yet. Given the channel name and all
As an ash main since 2013 this is an awesome trip down memory lane. Took five years off and now i’m back because of crossplay. I gotta say, The addition of helminth has added so much depth to ash, plus smoke shadow’s crit buff, PLUS archon shards has made for some crazy fun and effective builds. Gloom on ash can create an unkillable tank. Wrathful advance is a different FT. Roar, Xata’s, and eclipse plus smoke shadow make for great dps. Aquablades is hilarious with invis. Creeping Terrify is great for when you want to run ash as an armor stripping defense frame. The possibilities are endless and i’ve been having an absolute blast with him since coming back. I’m about to build my third ash prime just so i can min max and make more helminth builds
i was there... when frames had stamina, and we used tipedo to traverse maps, this game went through so many changes it's crazy
While grinding Inaros I got the Ash Systems and this releasing so soon, I might as well take it as a sign and grind the rest of his kit.
I love Ash and Bladestorm Ash has been my favourite frame for years, is super cool and strong. Years ago, when I played Ash for the first time, I wasn't too impressed, but ever since his Bladestorm rework (with the marks), I'm madly in love. Plus, Ash Prime is super hawt.
Before his quality of life patch, I had still complained about the marking mechanism, but that's better now.
Honestly, I wish he had more interaction with clones instead of further straight Bladestorm buffs, since they are a part of his lore and Bladestorm already is very strong, but I don't care which ability gains the clones, I just want more 😀
If he would summon clones on Smoke Screen or Teleport that stagger, stun or stealth kill at his side. Or if the use of Shuriken would add clones to Bladestorm. Or if clones would randomly appear and mark targets for takedown (I know, maybe too many marks 😸).
His Smoke Screen doesn't necessarily need duration because with shorter duration you can recast it and stagger enemies over and over, but ever since Whispers in the Wall, I run Energy Nexus and dropped Streamline and the minus duration one, which is funnily enough more efficient than these two.
Actually, Ash is very fine at the moment.
BABE BABE WAKE UP, ASH VIDEO IS FINALLY HERE
Man I miss ash’s old blade storm before the rework.
Yeah I never understood how moving Ash and Oberon into Railjack made any sense or did anything for the gamemode other than artifically boosting the number of people who played it by forcing people who wanted to farm Ash or Oberon to do Railjack or how it made getting Ash or Oberon feel any better. For Sevagoth it made sense why his farm was in Railjack. His lore is that he was the captain of a renowned rescue Railjack.
I am so glad I have my ash prime build 😂
He is an awesome frame in my opinion
He is
Mogamu...that's a name I haven't heard in a while.
my first prime frame, i miss the days where you would participate in blade storm
Excellent video man 👌
Ash was my first prime, how far we've come
same.
Same here
Been getting back into Warframe recently and have been loving your videos. Keep up the good work! Also- zephyr when??
One thing you didn't mention is that when the Dark Sector update arrived, we used to have attack-defense mode for each clan's solar rail to battle for dark sector's node ownership and profit from taxes. So basically you attack and or defend your solar rail from other clan member pvp style, and how do we cheese that mission? Ash's bladestorm, basically just rush in, press 4, and push.
Wow did not know about that. Must have been insanely easy to win battles that way
@@NovaUmbral yeah it was like, the obscure time of warframe, it was the peak of Alliance-Clan cooperation and backstabbing. Ash's Bladestorm and (iirc) nova's 4 before it was changed to a wave was the go to for "tryhard clans".
Ash is so so fun, all he needs is high duration and a slash weapon, he can do anything in game with this set up, or you can go the bladestorm route but i prefer guns and invisibility
Ash was the third warframe I picked up when I started playing and covert lethality on the rakta dark dagger on index was fun cheese.
I'd be down for all the changes you listed. I'd only add slight bump to Smokebomb duration and give Bladestorm a Peacemakers-like reticle with which you have easier time marking enemies quick and in wider area. With new LoS changes, it will not be blocked by clutter as much as well. And have clones execute enemies immediately, rather than one at a time. Dante can wipe the room with a press of a button, I don't see why Ash has to be so scuffed doing the same thing.
Mesa like reticle is perfect honestly
My Favorite Warframe of all time. The Warframe I played the most. The Warframe that I find the most interesting. When I first found your channel I was sad that Ash didnt have an Entry. ASH BRO'S ASSEMBLE
Should do a complimenting Loki video!
Ash's popularity is proof that he's just unfun and outdated.
He has less playtime than loki lol.
The supposed endurance S tier frame is barely even used in endurance anymore.
As you said there's much better and beginner friendly options.
This is just sad and his 1/3/4 needs rework or big improvements.
Bladestorm should not require marking that's such a unfun and clunky, slow nuke in the game.
Keep it LoS and that's fine.
Aslong as marking exists, no one will use Bladestrom.
Dante can nuke anything in his LOS without needing to mark anything.
Ash deserves better even if his OG Bladestorm was too strong.
They absolutely killed it and it shows DE's design philosophy was much harder back then.
I agree with your shuriken and teleport changes.
The sad thing is tho because Ash is more viable than few other characters, he's probably never going to get these big changes.
I BEEN WAITING FOR THE VID ABOUT MAH BOY FOR SO GOD DAYUM LONG
I miss the press 4 to win ash 😢 the good old days i wish they would give a argument that removes the manual targeting or maybe allow us tap/hold option for auto Targeting 😢
Huh, Ash seems like a solid frame even today *proceeds to continue playing Nyx*
for the moving of ash to railjack instead of the maniacs or whatever, i never got in many years of playing more than 1 ash part from those guys, the type of mission i run the most is grineer and those guys almost never appeared to my, i can count in my fingers, actually my first ash was the ash prime they gave at tennocon
I am, to this day, one of the people the Bladestorm gutting was aimed at. I like the animation (jank and all), and I just found it really funny to be able to see one guy's ankle and press 4 on that to clear the entire room behind him
Bad for the game? Absolutely, 100%
Good for me? Absolutely, 100%
The nerf was needed but damn do I miss those days
Me too 😢
And then Ivara came along, with her Prowl Augment making her invisibility better than Loki's and Ash's due to being able to also ignore environmental hazards... And her exalted bow having its known uses, like actual combat... And floof hunting once that was introduced.
Night Equinox's Rest is also good for floof hunting, but (shrugs)
Me and ash are the same, covered in a huge cloud of smoke 😎
Hope your dank has a longer duration than his though :D
Tbh , at this point in time DE could let ash ultimate use his melee weapon again. Enemies are way bulkier and we are only dealing finisher dmg , also , ash is not easy to farm by any means , by the time a player gets him , he should be done with almost all the mid-game and starting to dip their toes into things like arbitration and SP.
But hey , I still use ash from time to time , he is a very fun frame and with savage silence he can put up some serious dmg.
Personally I like your suggestions for Ash, he really can just be fixed with a few minor tweaks.
- Shuriken getting more Shurikens by default is a good idea, but I would also suggest making it so enemies hit with Shuriken have a higher chance to proc Bleed from all sources. Kind of like a weaker Garuda 4m the status chance is higher, but not guaranteed. If you hit an enemy with a Shuriken, they are also prioritized first by your Shadow Clones to make killing specific targets easier. Just so the ability has a use as a Helminth option and on Ash himself without the Augment.
- Going to just say I agree with the Teleport changes overall. Not much to add there, but I would hope the new Augment adds something like a Marked for Death function to Teleport instead.
- Bladestorm and it's QoL would also seriously benefit a Tap and Hold functionality, wherein the ability would only end if you Hold Cast, and Tap Casts just activate the clones. That way, continuous Bladestorm casts are easier, hopefully helping him with his generally clunky gameplay. Less button presses and something like an actual reticle as you've stated would be appreciated.
Also his shuriken should armor strip by default since without the augment the ablity on it's own is completely worthless
Finally. That’s my boi right there
The only person hating on anku incar on, should farm for a salad Prime set
REAL
I would make bladestorm just a long cone or rectangle that checks for enemies in LoS and then sends in a clone that teleports around and strikes those enemies. Having to activate it, then mark enemies, then activate it again, then wait for all enemies to be struck is really clunky. Either that or make it so you hold bladestorm to mark enemies and then release to cast on those enemies.
Man i miss old bladestorm, not because it was easy but because it didn't make me motion sick
BABE WAKE UP NOVAL UMBRA JUST DROPPED A VID ON ASH-
ash should mark targets passively
The existence of the Harmony scythe has completely CRACKED Ash's potential wide open. Heavy build Harmony with a melee focussed Ash with Smoke Shadow and Wrathful Advance will regularly hit in the MILLIONS per heavy melee, occasionally hitting the 2.1B cap and sometimes even overflowing it to something like -1.4M. Absolutely absurd and I love it, my main is living his best life right now.
whats the build i love harmony
@@-a-1598 Here:
Ash:
- Mods:
- Steel Charge
- Primed Sure Footed
- Umbral Intensify
- Stretch
- Primed Continuity
- Equilibrium
- Seeking Shuriken (not required, I just like the utility)
- Blind Rage
- Primed Flow
- Smoke Shadow
- Arcanes:
- Arcane Reaper
- Arcane Fury
- Shards
- 4x Tauforged Violet, Melee Crit Damage
- 1x Tauforged Azure, Max Energy
- Subsume
- Wrathful Advance, replacing 3
Harmony:
- Mods:
- Reaping Spiral
- Dispatch Overdrive
- Primed Reach
- Melee Elementalist
- Carnis Mandible
- Amalgam Organ Shatter
- Sacrificial Steel
- Killing Blow
- Spring-Loaded Blade
- Lasting Sting
- Arcane:
- Melee Afflictions
Focus school, companion and other details not important
How Lavos Alchemized Warframe Part 2 when?
Next video: How Carrier Carried Warframe
Weapon archetype does not matter regarding blade storm damage. It may be a glitch or bug, but I tried 15+ different weapons. 7 different types one with lowest unmodded damage and one with highest unmodded damage for each of the 7 categories. My damage was flat and unchanged across all 15+ weapons. I have up before splitting hairs in weapon types.
Daggers
Rapiers
Whips
Sword shield
Nakanas
Swords
Machete
All don't change damage.
I also never had varying damage between animations. The last 2 enemies always had the exact increase from the multiplier. While the first 6 also had exactly the same number.
Gah this is so infuriating… then it might have been changed past 2 weeks…..
Hey man, love the content. I'd like to learn how you make these high quality thumbnails!
Thanks for this deep dive into Ash, one of my favorite Warframes. Do you think you'll ever look at Ivara? She's supposed to be "The Hunter" but I'm not seeing how she's much of a "Hunter." I can see Ash being a Ninja but I'm not sure frames do what DE thinks they do and it's more marketing hype than anything.
When the game first launched I used to think Ash and Excalibur were rivals or something because they had similar designs and opposing origins because ones a European knight the other is a japanese ninja
Funny how my reactions to the mentioned content creators range from
"eyyy that was my boi" to "yikes i forgot about them, for a good reason 💀"
Fem Ash, Fa-
Wait.
I'm just like ash, forgotten
Nice recap of the different stages of ash. He is still my most used frame despite not getting much use these days, i lived in mot survival with him for a while. Badestorm needs way more speed, no matter how much damage it does the kpm is horrible. Also shuriken should strip baseline, augment should be more of them or/and marking for bladestorm. and teleport is just default subsume so whatever. He needs killing potential in groups, so making bladestorm more user friendly should be a no brainer.
I farmed prime ash when he was still in the void. I was very lucky to farmed in a couple of hours. The RNG gods favored me that day
Funny my brother got 2 sets of him and gifted me one and grinded for vex prime and Carrier prime he's been my main ever since
One combo I love with ash is Cyam(that duviri nikana) with the arcane that gives initial combo on finishers.
Bladestorm counts as finishers, deals more damage per combo multiplier and it will increase Cyam's heavy attacks.
Why Cyam ? It's a cool nikana with shockwave heavy attacks ^^
Haven’t seen the name N00blShowtek for a long while
Bro finally added subway surfers to treat my adhd
I hope the price of ash goes up after this video, I got tons of relics
You think there’s a chance that they’ll rework Ash again so that his Bladestorm is actually usable?
A rework I could see is rather than having to mark enemies, he sends out shadow clones that target enemies within a certain radius of him and if we want the animation we use teleportation plus if we use smokescreen Bladestorm benefits from the stealth modifier.
Old farming was painful
I think changing bladestorm to work like Ember's inferno would've been alright and then make it a hold cast to go into the animation rather than locking it into his 3
Ash Prime is my first prime with a price of 6p. Still keep him and almost disappointed with him losing edges with each update until now. Good thing Slash procs become one of the most deadly damage in the game and Kullervo update giving him another bridge that allows him to be semi meta frame. I still miss the monochrome filter in his 4th ability.
Mine too
I think that a player set mark duration for blade storm would be a good idea along with allowing for the toggle as well. the max marks still being limited by the energy cost meaning the damage and target count wont be affected and you could still activate the attack on will meaning dps wouldn't be hindered. I would say this shouldn't be effected by duration mods as low or high duration would severely limit dps by making attacks too infrequent or making blade storm practically useless as you couldn't mark enough enemies. a mark duration of like 3-4 seconds would be good id say as this is as much time as usually spend marking anyway as when you mark enough enemies i find the ability feels slow as the clones make their away around each enemy
THEY'RE GETTING LONGER OH NO
you forgot to mention the melee crescendo bladestorm synergy. that makes you basically have 12x combo eternally
I just found out about this a few hours ago after upload, seems really interesting, but I'm not sure if its intended or not, but we shall see
Ash is one of the most powerful and fun the hate he suffers is because he doesn't make the team look good
I always thought it would be neat for the *seeking shuriken* to shred and seek new enemies as it travels through them. As a neat and new way to have armor stripping. Plus, having it tied to duration is rather abhorrent nowadays.
“Ash was offensive, Loki was not.”
Two words: “Switch Teleport”
Seeking shuriken should not even be an augment. The ability is 100% useless without it.
stealth gas mentioned ✅
I will never forget wheelchair Ash Prime
They ruined my bladestorm and I hate it, they could just make it so that you send shadow assassins to enemies within your LoS but no they truly make it ability to awful to cast. Now if need to kill enemies, you need to swipe your mouse across pad to do 360 or 180 to tag enemies.
Ash is life.
Rebecca's hate of stat sticks will always baffle me, I genuinely wonder what she thinks is gonna happen when she finally kills them all 💀
Its quite unfortunate that almost all of stat stick Ash was "nerfed/fixed" honestly at least allowing over 50% attack speed would be more than enough to make BS more fluid