I am a professional roofer and even tho that sounds silly,I would highly recommend putting that flashing under at least one or two more rows of shingles , so the bottom of the last shingle is at least past the bottom of the hole cut if that makes sense , and putting ice and water shield on the top half of the pipe flashing would be preferred especially in a snowy area and then you wouldn’t need the silicone, sealing all the way around the pipe flashing with any caulking also traps moisture you should leave the bottom open for condensation or any other moisture/water to escape
@@redsresearch nope… you’ll trap any moisture that gets in there and it won’t have anywhere to go, you put tree nails across the bottom of the flashing or pipe boot and seal those with whatever flavor caulking you prefer on the top and that’s it, if you seal a pipe boot across the bottom like your saying especially if there’s not a perfect air tight seal made by the holes cut through the ceiling and or roof deck, humid inside air will migrate up into the dead space around the pipe boot and it will condensate just like a pop can dose saturating the area until it leaks inside or rots out the roof deck around the pipe especially in the winter months if you have that type of weather where ever you live, I’ve been roofing over 19 years of my life I’ve seen and repaired this exact issue, I’m also certified by every major shingle manufacturer, and I attend roofing conventions/seminars on a semi regular basis, I don’t know where you choose to get your information but I’m pretty certain I’m correct and you are not, but think and do what you please man this is America, you’ll just be giving guys like me something to do going around and repairing all the janky shit guys like you do.
That's great news, Lisa. If he has any questions preparing for his installation or during the installation, please have him give one of our Technicians a call. 866-708-2446
@@Rockfordchim I have almost a flat roof with a 1 degree taper. The roof will be pretty thick. What is the maximum thickness for your flat roof install kit and how much does it cost?
@@jonsmith2217 We have a flat roof flashing available. The flashing should be affected by the roof thickness. The ceiling support we offer is 11" in length or 24" in length. This is what protrudes into the room and supports the pipe. Please feel free to call us and go over your install 866-708-2446
3:13 there's no code stating the chimney has to be 10 feet away from the roof ridge. it just states that the cap hight has to be 2' higher than the ridge within a 10' circumference.
That is a great idea and we've added it to our list! If you have questions on this type of install, feel free to call us / email us / skype with us - happy to help plan your install.
The flashing is available in two size that fit a range of roof pitches: 0/12 to 6/12 77/12 to 12/12 Standard flashing: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-vented-standard-class-a-flashing.php Metal roof flashing: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-metal-roof-class-a-flashing.php We even offer a peak flashing that we will make to your roof pitch: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-vented-peak-flashing.php
I am installing a wood stove in my garage and there is no attic or crawl space above the ceiling. Trying to figure out how to see what is between the ceiling and the roof... how do you handle situations like this?
Hello, very helpful and detailed info. My question is that the top of the flashing you used that seem to have holes. is that for ventilation? my fireplace is gas direct vent. does it also use flashing with holes like that? i wonder if those holes will create water leak or moisture problems into the house. thank you very much for your expertise
In this video, the holes at the top of the flashing are for ventilation. The storm collar that is installed on the chimney pipe sheds water away. Non-vented flashing is available without the holes you mentioned but we typically suggest vented flashing for wood burning. Direct vent fireplaces usually vent through the wall horizontally. In some cases the direct vent fireplaces can vent vertically. If you have a pipe that comes through your roof, it will use a flashing. If your pipe comes through the wall, you do not need a flashing. We hope this answers your question. If it doesn't please let us know, we'll be glad to help.
@Rockfordchim Thank you so much. That explains WHY and WHAT for ventilated vs non-ventilated flashing 100x better than DuraVent/DuraPlus/DuraPro/SuperVent/DuraTech/Selkirk/etc/etc/etc videos do. I'm so sick of their multiple product lines, changing part numbers/fitment issues, etc. I have 40 hours into RESEARCHING part numbers/fitment/etc...Ugh!!!
A steep pitched roof would inevitably have a more oval hole than the one in this video. You would still mark the hole shape from the flashing for your particular roof pitch as shown in this video.
For this particular installation, the pipe was enclosed in the attic space with a chase. This was not shown for video purposes since there are several options for attic insulation shielding. For the Rock-Vent chimney pipe, there are a few options for handling attic insulation shielding according to the installation instructions. Here is a link to the manual, please see pages 7-11 www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/pub/media/wysiwyg/pdf/Rockford%20Installation%20Instructions_3.pdf
Did you already account for the ceiling joists when measured out 18 in from the wall in prep for the codling support? I purchased this kit and this is where I’m struggling
Yes, we noticed this after the video was made that the speaker misspoke and we added this correction a while back in our description of the video. Thank you though!
The thimble and ceiling box are for two different applications. The ceiling box cannot be used on a horizontal through the wall application because it does not have a cover plate to seal off the other end of the box which is outside. The ceiling box will get attached to the ceiling joist and offers load support for the chimney pipe. Alternately, the thimble cannot be used for a vertical through the ceiling application because parts of the thimble telescope and doesn't offer the proper amount of vertical support. The thimble is a wall pass through. The thimble comes with a cover plate on the outside portion of the thimble which make the thimble water tight. Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Our adapter to our single wall stove pipe is a tight fit and requires the included screws to be used. If you are using a different brand of single wall stove pipe that is not as tight of a fit, you may need to use high temperature sealer such as Mill Pac. We also have this available on our website.
Yes, it's function is to support the vertical pipe but also to provide the proper clearances around the pipe coming through the ceiling. The flashing and storm collar cover this area from the exterior.
I have 6x6 beams as ceiling joists with 2x6 wood on top of the beams for a ceiling and am assuming I can just go through the 2x6 with insulated pipe without a ceiling support box? Is this correct? Thanks.
Hello, If you choose to not use the ceiling support box, you will have to use the adjustable roof support to bare the weight of the pipe. www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-class-a-roof-support.php The chimney pipe must still extend below the ceiling a minimum of 3". We offer a trim collar that can seal the gap where the pipe passes through the ceiling. www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-pitched-ceiling-trim-collar.php. Remember, the chimney pipe will need a 2" clearance to combustibles from the ceiling on all sides when passing through.
Yes, the Rock-Vent Class A insulated pipe is used to pass through combustibles because it has a 2" clearance to combustibles. It must protrude into the room at least 3" (flat) or 3" longer than the lowest part of the ceiling (cathedral) where it would then connect to single wall or double wall black stove pipe.
We have a woodheater that already has the holes in the wall. The flue needs to come from the back of the heater, through the hole that is in the wall and up through the porch roof. We got an estimate today of $2800.00 for materials, labor and tax. I felt that was kind of steep for just installing a flue. What do you think? I believe I can do it myself with your video, but I just want to make sure, I don't get a phone call that my house is on fire due to my installation.
Well it's not all that unrealistic I actually did that with, my first home I had only 1100 ft I bought the biggest I could find that would heat up to a 3200ft I ran that for about 6 years had amazing results moved that into my new Lodge home of 2200 ft with walk out basement and it keeps up just as well it is what it is there's nothing wrong with buying the biggest you can get you just throttle it down a bit if it gets too hot that's all, this was a radiant wood stove by the way now if you are talking a gas furnace no do not do this you need to get the proper one to match your square foot or it will constantly short cycle if it's too big, wood stoves however you can get away with this
The flashing needs to be installed just as the roof shingles have been (shingled for water runoff as shown in the video). The upper half of the flashing goes under the shingles, the bottom portion of the flashing goes over the shingles. Referring to time 2:02
You can find it on our website. This link is for the Rock-Vent Class A Insulated Chimney Pipe www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems.php and This link is for the Rock-Vent Single Wall Stove Pipe www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/singlewallblack.php
+David Bumstead We use our chimney silicone because it has a temperature rating of 450 degrees.www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/everguard-400-silicone-sealant-adhesive.php
We would recommend either re-caulking the chimney cap back on with high temp silicone(depending on your setup) or replacing the chimney cap with a Weather Shield chimney cap. Do you have air cooled or insulated chimney pipe? You can find our caps in the link below. Or, if you'd like we can help further if you are able to email us a picture of your pipe and cap (email address below) www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-caps Email Address: jwhite@rockfordchimneysupply.com
Finally, actual information! The manual with my selkirk support box kit didnt even explain half of what this video did.
This is the best explanation to install a chimney pipe on youtube. Great job!!
Glad it was helpful! -Rockford Chimney
I am a professional roofer and even tho that sounds silly,I would highly recommend putting that flashing under at least one or two more rows of shingles , so the bottom of the last shingle is at least past the bottom of the hole cut if that makes sense , and putting ice and water shield on the top half of the pipe flashing would be preferred especially in a snowy area and then you wouldn’t need the silicone, sealing all the way around the pipe flashing with any caulking also traps moisture you should leave the bottom open for condensation or any other moisture/water to escape
Not shingled far enough down. Never silicone under the bottom edge. You don’t want to trap water.
your suposed to caulk the bottom so any wind driven rain or snow doesnt get up there...
@@redsresearch nope
@@jeffreyfred4817 ummmm ya you are
@@redsresearch nope… you’ll trap any moisture that gets in there and it won’t have anywhere to go, you put tree nails across the bottom of the flashing or pipe boot and seal those with whatever flavor caulking you prefer on the top and that’s it, if you seal a pipe boot across the bottom like your saying especially if there’s not a perfect air tight seal made by the holes cut through the ceiling and or roof deck, humid inside air will migrate up into the dead space around the pipe boot and it will condensate just like a pop can dose saturating the area until it leaks inside or rots out the roof deck around the pipe especially in the winter months if you have that type of weather where ever you live, I’ve been roofing over 19 years of my life I’ve seen and repaired this exact issue, I’m also certified by every major shingle manufacturer, and I attend roofing conventions/seminars on a semi regular basis, I don’t know where you choose to get your information but I’m pretty certain I’m correct and you are not, but think and do what you please man this is America, you’ll just be giving guys like me something to do going around and repairing all the janky shit guys like you do.
Thanks for this! Gave me the confidence to tackle this on my own. Easy stuff.
Glad it was helpful! -Rockford Chimney
Best UA-cam instructional video ever thank you
Glad it was helpful! -Rockford Chimney
Glad it was helpful!
I would recommend using roof struts for anything past 4 feet above roof line and dont forget High Temp silicone folks.
Awesome information.
We are about to install now 😬
Thanks. The hole in the roof has my husband nervous. This will help give him the confidence he needs to cut it and install the flashing & vent pipe.
That's great news, Lisa. If he has any questions preparing for his installation or during the installation, please have him give one of our Technicians a call. 866-708-2446
How did it go?
@@Rockfordchim I have almost a flat roof with a 1 degree taper. The roof will be pretty thick. What is the maximum thickness for your flat roof install kit and how much does it cost?
@@jonsmith2217 We have a flat roof flashing available. The flashing should be affected by the roof thickness. The ceiling support we offer is 11" in length or 24" in length. This is what protrudes into the room and supports the pipe. Please feel free to call us and go over your install 866-708-2446
Thanks. Very clear and simple instructions. 🤙🏻
Best explanation I’ve seen, helped me a lot thx
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3:13 there's no code stating the chimney has to be 10 feet away from the roof ridge. it just states that the cap hight has to be 2' higher than the ridge within a 10' circumference.
3 feet of pipe out and 2 feet higher than roof within 10 feet.
Pat B thank you
Code is actually "2 feet above ANYTHING within a 10 foot horizontal plane" not exclusively the roof or peak.
Any chance you could make a similar video with the peak vented flashing? For class A chimney that exits the roof through the apex.
That is a great idea and we've added it to our list! If you have questions on this type of install, feel free to call us / email us / skype with us - happy to help plan your install.
Great tutorial. Thanks!!
can you adjust the roof flashing to the pitch of the roof?
The flashing is available in two size that fit a range of roof pitches:
0/12 to 6/12
77/12 to 12/12
Standard flashing: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-vented-standard-class-a-flashing.php
Metal roof flashing: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-metal-roof-class-a-flashing.php
We even offer a peak flashing that we will make to your roof pitch: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-pipes/class-a-insulated-chimney-pipes/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems/rock-vent-vented-peak-flashing.php
Good video!
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you
That was a real good job, thank you!
Thank you for the information good job but my question is are you trying to pattern your enthusiasm from Ben Stein
I am installing a wood stove in my garage and there is no attic or crawl space above the ceiling. Trying to figure out how to see what is between the ceiling and the roof... how do you handle situations like this?
isnt the ceiling suport box a little close to the plywood ceiling?
Hello, very helpful and detailed info. My question is that the top of the flashing you used that seem to have holes. is that for ventilation? my fireplace is gas direct vent. does it also use flashing with holes like that? i wonder if those holes will create water leak or moisture problems into the house. thank you very much for your expertise
In this video, the holes at the top of the flashing are for ventilation. The storm collar that is installed on the chimney pipe sheds water away. Non-vented flashing is available without the holes you mentioned but we typically suggest vented flashing for wood burning. Direct vent fireplaces usually vent through the wall horizontally. In some cases the direct vent fireplaces can vent vertically. If you have a pipe that comes through your roof, it will use a flashing. If your pipe comes through the wall, you do not need a flashing. We hope this answers your question. If it doesn't please let us know, we'll be glad to help.
@Rockfordchim Thank you so much. That explains WHY and WHAT for ventilated vs non-ventilated flashing 100x better than DuraVent/DuraPlus/DuraPro/SuperVent/DuraTech/Selkirk/etc/etc/etc videos do. I'm so sick of their multiple product lines, changing part numbers/fitment issues, etc. I have 40 hours into RESEARCHING part numbers/fitment/etc...Ugh!!!
Does a steep pitch roof need a more oval hole due to slant? Or does the flashing account for this?
A steep pitched roof would inevitably have a more oval hole than the one in this video. You would still mark the hole shape from the flashing for your particular roof pitch as shown in this video.
Great question!
Where is the attic insulation shield ?
For this particular installation, the pipe was enclosed in the attic space with a chase. This was not shown for video purposes since there are several options for attic insulation shielding. For the Rock-Vent chimney pipe, there are a few options for handling attic insulation shielding according to the installation instructions. Here is a link to the manual, please see pages 7-11 www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/pub/media/wysiwyg/pdf/Rockford%20Installation%20Instructions_3.pdf
Did you already account for the ceiling joists when measured out 18 in from the wall in prep for the codling support? I purchased this kit and this is where I’m struggling
You said the chimney needs to be 2ft out of the roof. That's wrong, it needs to be a minimum 3ft but 2ft taller than anything within 10ft.
Yes, we noticed this after the video was made that the speaker misspoke and we added this correction a while back in our description of the video. Thank you though!
Ty lads!
What do you mean by roofline? Is that the crest of the roof?
Does a thimble replace a ceiling box? Do they serve the same purpose
The thimble and ceiling box are for two different applications. The ceiling box cannot be used on a horizontal through the wall application because it does not have a cover plate to seal off the other end of the box which is outside. The ceiling box will get attached to the ceiling joist and offers load support for the chimney pipe. Alternately, the thimble cannot be used for a vertical through the ceiling application because parts of the thimble telescope and doesn't offer the proper amount of vertical support. The thimble is a wall pass through. The thimble comes with a cover plate on the outside portion of the thimble which make the thimble water tight. Please let us know if you have any other questions.
2:49 Does the adapter need any adhesive (silicone) on it's bottom side where it meets the support box?
Our adapter to our single wall stove pipe is a tight fit and requires the included screws to be used. If you are using a different brand of single wall stove pipe that is not as tight of a fit, you may need to use high temperature sealer such as Mill Pac. We also have this available on our website.
Does the exterior chimney pipe (above roof) need to be double walled or can it still be single walled pipe? Thanks
For wood burning it should be insulated Class A pipe, such as our Rock-Vent Class A pipe shown in this video.
Is it normal for the ceiling support box to be exposed to outside temperatures?
Yes, it's function is to support the vertical pipe but also to provide the proper clearances around the pipe coming through the ceiling. The flashing and storm collar cover this area from the exterior.
Thank you!!! Simple, straight forward answer that I also needed. @@Rockfordchim
im looking for a very extra large wood coal wood stove thast would burn for 2 days or more filled with hard woods
like oak maple bulberry locus wood
I have 6x6 beams as ceiling joists with 2x6 wood on top of the beams for a ceiling and am assuming I can just go through the 2x6 with insulated pipe without a ceiling support box? Is this correct? Thanks.
Hello, If you choose to not use the ceiling support box, you will have to use the adjustable roof support to bare the weight of the pipe. www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-class-a-roof-support.php The chimney pipe must still extend below the ceiling a minimum of 3". We offer a trim collar that can seal the gap where the pipe passes through the ceiling. www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-pitched-ceiling-trim-collar.php. Remember, the chimney pipe will need a 2" clearance to combustibles from the ceiling on all sides when passing through.
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What’s the best flashing for a tin roof?
We have a metal roof flashing available on our Rock-Vent Class A chimney pipe product line
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So did you use single wall black pipe until it reached the ceiling then switched to double wall ?
Yes, the Rock-Vent Class A insulated pipe is used to pass through combustibles because it has a 2" clearance to combustibles. It must protrude into the room at least 3" (flat) or 3" longer than the lowest part of the ceiling (cathedral) where it would then connect to single wall or double wall black stove pipe.
We have a woodheater that already has the holes in the wall. The flue needs to come from the back of the heater, through the hole that is in the wall and up through the porch roof. We got an estimate today of $2800.00 for materials, labor and tax. I felt that was kind of steep for just installing a flue. What do you think? I believe I can do it myself with your video, but I just want to make sure, I don't get a phone call that my house is on fire due to my installation.
So what did you end up doing? It will be cold soon..
@@zclubofpolkcounty Looks like I will be doing it myself.
i was told to only buy the largest stove i could find so you dont have to keep flling it every hour or 2
Tim Bolt not true,buy one that fits your house SQ ft
Well it's not all that unrealistic I actually did that with, my first home I had only 1100 ft I bought the biggest I could find that would heat up to a 3200ft I ran that for about 6 years had amazing results moved that into my new Lodge home of 2200 ft with walk out basement and it keeps up just as well it is what it is there's nothing wrong with buying the biggest you can get you just throttle it down a bit if it gets too hot that's all, this was a radiant wood stove by the way now if you are talking a gas furnace no do not do this you need to get the proper one to match your square foot or it will constantly short cycle if it's too big, wood stoves however you can get away with this
All that flashing needs to be under any shingles 🙃
The flashing needs to be installed just as the roof shingles have been (shingled for water runoff as shown in the video). The upper half of the flashing goes under the shingles, the bottom portion of the flashing goes over the shingles. Referring to time 2:02
where can find chmney pipe
You can find it on our website. This link is for the Rock-Vent Class A Insulated Chimney Pipe www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/rock-vent-class-a-chimney-systems.php and This link is for the Rock-Vent Single Wall Stove Pipe www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/singlewallblack.php
The video says “the chimney pipe must be at least ten feet away from the roof line” but that’s not true.
Here is a helpful article www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/blog/chimney-pipe-height/
That piece of metal on the chimney that is supposed to divert rain does not work.
you use silicon rather than henrys
+David Bumstead We use our chimney silicone because it has a temperature rating of 450 degrees.www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/everguard-400-silicone-sealant-adhesive.php
my chimney cap was calked in with black not sure not screwed came loose when cutting branches what would you recommend
We would recommend either re-caulking the chimney cap back on with high temp silicone(depending on your setup) or replacing the chimney cap with a Weather Shield chimney cap. Do you have air cooled or insulated chimney pipe? You can find our caps in the link below. Or, if you'd like we can help further if you are able to email us a picture of your pipe and cap (email address below) www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/chimney-caps Email Address: jwhite@rockfordchimneysupply.com
insulated
This is the cap we recommend for insulated solid pack chimney pipe: www.rockfordchimneysupply.com/weathershield-non-air-cooled-chimney-cap.php
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That poor dog. That’s not right
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