Thanks for watching! Do watch our follow up video ( link in description) where we reflashed the chimney box to tuck the flaps under the shingles ( at the same time as we replaced the old ones)
Aww thankyou! Make sure to watch the follow up video ( link in the description) where Caleb showed the corrected flashing under shingles instead of over !
Pull that flashing off and the ceiling support box edges you flapped over the top of the shingles. Cut those flaps off and screw into the inners of the roof joists. Then make sure the upper half of the flashing is slid under a few layers of shingles. Nice video. Just trying to save you a bad leak before it happens. Because it will. And you’re going to have to redo it anyways. Might as well do it now before it ruins your drywall ceiling inside and the insulation.
You are totally right ! We have had a persistent leak - credit to Caleb it hasnt been bad but he said the shingles were/are old and so he didn't want to lift them and risk them tearing so thats why he went over. I think then he cut the flaps off. But none the less, the leak is there and we need to re do it - but most likely at the same time as replacing all the shingles as its about time it was done ! Job on the list before winter - will post a follow up video for sure - thanks so much for your message !
Thank you. great job and great explanation everything you did. I went with double wall stove pipe and triple wall chimney on mine. Nothing better that a wood fire stove on a cold day
This is the best video I have seen for wood stove installation. I have always been confused about the differences between various kinds of stovepipe and chimney pipe. Now, thanks to this video, I understand all of it.
Thankyou for your encouragement 🙌🏻 much appreciated!! It took me a while to get my head around it also!! Do make sure chimney flashing goes under your shingles however- we didnt do that part quite right!
Thank you, i couldnt figure out how the double wall connected to the ceiling being that they are both crimped but you answered it with your finely detailed video. Cheers!!
I been dreaming with having the experience on installing a wood stove and enjoying, and thus I love watching videos of other people who have done it successfully, but the best part is, having a family while you do all those projects, me doing it alone is not fun, I love to see the man surrounded by his woman, the daughter and the pets, everyone is involved in the process and excited to join in when it is done, loved to see all the shoes on the floor of all the active members of that moment of joy, that was awesome.
@@Lovetwou Realize you said “that’s OUR family”, meaning you might not have kids, but you do have someone to share with you the cats the dogs and the cars, without that word “OUR” life has no meaning.
13:15 What a pro! Switching caulking tubes like nothin! I've seen so many people struggle to even get one open after they find it 😂😂 You had that set up, ready to go... Almost had to guess your pants are lubed the way that utility knife slides back in
bahaha you are funny - tho i don't think his pants are lubed 😂!!! Thankyou for making appreciate my husband in a new way!! Things I don't even notice...clearly it takes one to know one so i appreciate you highlighting these trade skills!! By the way we have a follow up video as he did flub on the flashing - we re did it in the spring
@@TheFarmerintraining thankyou! Yes we get a few comments on the curtain i should have mentioned the stove we got is made for mobile homes so it has plates on the back and sides so heat output is only front and top… so the curtains dont even get warm!
Might want to mention up front that finding out where your ceiling joists are located FIRST is paramount to helping determine where to locate the stove.
Aww thankyou! Make sure to watch the follow up video ( link in the description) where Caleb showed the corrected flashing under shingles instead of over !
I lifted up my shingles carefully and attached my sides down then took roofing tar and resealed along with silicone no leaks 😊 doing it myself saved myself 1200.00
Fantastic video. Very comprehensive and well done. Kudos to you both. I do agree with some of the other comments that you may have wanted to do the box flashing at the top of the roof a little differently though.
Thanks for commenting - yes we have been battling a persistent leak, when i read the comments to Caleb he said he didn't want to lift the shingles because they were in poor condition and is most likely gonna have to rip it all off and replace the roof anyway - but you are right! I didn't realise he had done that and why so we will post a follow up video to clarify !
This was a very helpful video but definitely don't install flashing that way as it will leak. To properly install that type of flashing, you would need to remove some of the shingles above the chimney pipe and reset them over the top of the flashing. You also would need to be careful how it gets nailed in, if the nails are in the wrong spots, it could leak.
Cool to watch the project. Thanks for posting. I wouldn't trust the silicone to keep leaks from coming. I would be better if you lifted the shingles and slid the flashing underneath. (I've been there before!)
thankyou, yes we realised the error - see caption... we did a follow up video when we had the funds to reshingle the roof and add a mud room ! thanks for watching
Great family, congratulations! We subscribed.. I love what you're building over there. My wife and I live in Denver and we want OUT! It's nerve wracking and we've been looking for property and we're already half packed and ready to go even though we don't have a place yet! Your video is clear and easy to understand. You didn't show how you came up with the precise place to make your first penetration in the ceiling. I imagine you placed the stove, used a plumb bob to mark the center, figured your square dimensions then did the same under the sheathing. I just collapsed the telescoping flu on my stove and used fat wood to start a fire and it stunk to high heaven and I noticed smoke was escaping at the ceiling penetration. I must've untwisted it..Nice job and my wife and I will see other videos on your channel...
awww thanks for your comment - i totally missed it!! Hope you have found your dream place by now ! Thanks for your encouragement - yeah Caleb used a lazer to find his point but i missed him doing that ( he doesn't always wait for the camera - lol!) We were pretty limited with where we could put our stove due to this shouse being so small - and to get the correct height of the chimney and clearance above the roof apex we needed to be pretty close to the peak of the roof to ensure a good draw on the flu. Thanks for your comment !
Been watching a lot of videos and this is the first that explains the different piping and how everything fits together the best. Thanks! Also did you install a damper in the pipe?
@@sixt9stang thankyou! No we didnt put a damper in the pipe as there was one already in the stove… also do watch the followup video as we re did the flashing to go under the shingles
This was really the part I was trying to learn more about is the ceiling portion because I understand the base and the separation of the floor between the stove but now I know there’s a kit I can go get a hold of. You guys live in a converted shed?
@@RyanandSharonWelch thanks for watching! just be sure to tuck the flashing under the shingles on the upper half of the boot that you nail to the roof- we did that wrong and made a follow up video fixing that error! It should be linked as the follow up video or in the description 🙌🏻
Which chimney adapter did you guys use to make the double wall stove pipe connect into the double wall chimney pipe? I can't seem to find one at all i can only find the single wall to double wall chimney adapter but not the double to double wall adapter
yes its Englander 15-W08 Wood Stove W/ Blower (ESW0015) it comes up on google a few other places but i found it here brightesthome.com/products/englander-esw0015-15-w08-with-blower
Not really- i went there for triple wall and they didn’t have what i needed- the gentleman seemed genuinely happy to talk me through what we needed… would have happily given them our business if they had the parts but they didnt… even he said to try the box stores !
I just got into my kit this weekend. Wish you would have shown inside the box where the chimney pipe locks in to see how that looks. Did your chimney pipe lock inside that part or outside? It looks like another part should be there. There is like a 1 or 2 inch area with holes and some insulation. Does that end up outside your chimney pipe? Hope that makes sense as i am trying to get a few things figured out before install. Thnx
Great video and just want to say two things. Nice ladder with the steps on both sides and the shingles ,even old ones, can be gotten loose with a mud knife or anything to cut that goop that keeps the shingle down.the thinner the spatula the better. I subscribed !!
sorry i missed this comment! Thankyou! We did a follow up to this video to "redo" the shingles and chimney flashing. It looks much cleaner now!! not as much goop and no leaks!
We werent sure about that given the stove needs the chimney to create the draw so didnt think it would get hot enough to do what was needed before install… it did stink on the first few burns though 🤷🏼♀️
yes, we just did a follow up video - we took all the shingles off and Caleb explained why he didn't do that back in the Feb when he installed the stove - you are right though - we did have a small leak, more so from broken shingles further up, so the roof needed re-doing anyway!!
i wouldn't be very smart if i hadn't thought about those things!!! We used a double wall stove pipe ( insulated) so it doesn't heat up like a single wall. Keeps the flue at a higher temp and creates a better draw. The stove we purchased is designed for small spaces and comes with a rear heat shield. Can also have side head shields added. So to answer your question the clearances were different for our setup, we followed the instal regulations and no the window and curtains don't even get warm!
I’m ready to purchase one now. Will it be ready to use from purchase. I been going to different fireplace stores, and they charge for the door, the fire box, and unit start at 2k
@@larryholland1466 i put the list of everything we purchased in the show notes.. after you get the stove you need the stove pipe, chimney pipe, through the roof kit and your floor pad
Did the duravent kit come with the stainless pipe (triple walled?)that extended out of the ceiling box? I’m looking at the kits but the pictures don’t show it.
No, we bought the “through the roof kit” first which was the box and fittings for the ceiling and attic space and that was separate to the triple wall chimney that you slide into it from above ( which we also bought 2 extensions for to get the correct chimney length for a good draw)
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse do you recall the piece you bought where you bought it from? I’m just trying to get everything I need before I have a hole in the roof and I’m incomplete without having everything I need.
@@Theandrew189 so this was the triple wall chimney we got. We bought 2 sections of 24inch and 1 section of 36inch www.homedepot.com/p/DuraVent-DuraPlus-6-in-x-24-in-Triple-Wall-Chimney-Stove-Pipe-6DP-24/204514670#product-section-rr
@@Theandrew189 this was the black double wall indoor pipe we got by supervent( but in a different length which i cant find on their site now) www.lowes.com/pd/SuperVent-24-in-L-x-6-in-dia-Black-Insulated-Double-Wall-Steel-Stove-Pipe/3572830
@@Theandrew189 this is the double ended crimped connector we used to connect the double wall pipe to the triple wall chimney www.lowes.com/pd/IMPERIAL-6-in-x-6-in-Black-Steel-Stove-Pipe-Union/3134405
Metal mounting box should have been trimmed all the way around for support instead of cutting the front and back off, it gives extra support for the chimney especially in high winds, the round chimney flashing cover should have been slid under the top shingles so they cover the top allowing water to run over it and down, now you just made a place in your roof that will leak very soon because the top isn't covered by the shingles, and no amount of silicone will stop it unless done right, it tells you in the instructions, keep an eye on it before your roof, and ceiling start rotting and causing black mold, as well as cracks in the metal joints because there's no upper and lower support because you cut it off instead of trimming it like you did the sides and screwing it down.
It’s called a nibbler! It’s essentially the same as tin snips with a motor! Designed for cutting tin… also read the caption on this video if you are following the DIY as we had to redo the flashing shown in a follow up video
yes for single wall - double wall is different because the single wall is inside!! It took me a while to figure it out - but the pipes had arrows on indicating the flu goes up and the creosote always needs to run down ??? is that what your saying ?
I’ve always lifted the shingles above the chimney and pushed the flashing under them….or removed and reinstalled the shingles over the flashing …it then will never leak ..
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse I had a wood stove and fire place store in Quebec during the early eighties… and Im proud to say the very first Vermont Castings Canadian dealer …the team installed a lot of prefab chimneys and it was with manufacturers instructions we didn’t get call backs. The installer shouldn’t learn on your dime …call him back and have him fix it. One other note .. did you or do you need to have it added to your house insurance ? In Canada when you install a solid fuel appliance, its a good idea to let your home insurer know…then it get added to your policy just in case ..
Hi Jesse- we got our stove from home depot but they dont seem to be stocking it online now when i search for it … this is the stove however sold via a different company www.firepitsurplus.com/products/englander-15-w08-wood-stove-with-blower-esw0015?currency=USD&variant=44667556004071&Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiA68ebBhB-EiwALVC-NurFWueWOIKO-IQF9gdkb7qJt48xNb7ExBds2uQ2ol5yx4Ly6KVCkxoCYXAQAvD_BwE For the other parts we got it all from lowes and home depot, i just posted the links in a comment below to Andrew Helms 👇🏻 you will find them in the thread below
yes! Great point - we chose this set up because we are in 'small space living' and didn't have a lot of options for where to place the stove so we needed closer clearances.
How does your windows do with the stove being so close? I keep seeing that you wanna be 3ft away from windows. I'm just asking because I'm wanting to install a wood stove and it seems about the same as yours from a window.
we were really limited with where we could place our stove so when i researched the type of stove i wanted i was specifically searching for a stove that is built for small space living - when you start to look into it Different stoves have different options. Our stove -and many in the englander range come with rear and side heat shields meaning the clearances can be tighter. If you look into stoves built for mobile homes then you will find they are built differently. When we first installed ours i was going to change our window curtains out for a blind, and i was checking all the time the stove was on to see if heat was transferring and they barely get warm. My hubs said you can actually touch the back of the stove when its on ( not that i've tried it lol) but to answer your question its designed for a closer clearance that what is standard. You still want to follow the clearances recommended in the install manual though. Also make sure you check part 2 of the install video because Caleb re did the chimney through the roof in terms of the way he flashed with the shingles. Hope this helps!
Yes it leaked!! I asked Him why he did it like that but he said he thought the shingles would tear if he had lifted them… we’ve actually just finished redoing it as we added a porch and re shingled the whole roof- will post the new vid soon! Thanks for your comment 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Have you had any issues with ice dams forming? We also have a vaulted ceiling and I'm nervous to install the wood stove as someone warned us that a wood stove's heat can cause ice dams on vaulted ceilings due to there not being an attic/increased insulation...
@@benrichardsonben1276 no i have not heard that- we have used it for 3 winters now with no issue- we do have a low roof so its easy to get up there when it snows and we do shovel snow off the roof - we are in zone 6a so it hits -20 at times hope that helps
Great to see someone actually DIY an install; the fireplace shops charge a lot of money for this relatively medium difficulty project. its not rocket science. Probably a good idea to check local codes. In Canada, the chimney height is minimum of 3 feet, and with that pitched roof you should have been about 5 feet and with braces (for Canadian code). Since kits come in 4 ft sections (Excel kit) you would have ordered 8 feet of chimney from the start. in other words, the first instal was obviously too short. Also, the chimney support box distance from the inside ceiling needs a minimum clearance; this instal is probably very close to the minimum. Of course, the stove clearances and floor protection areas (particularly if you have carpet) also need to be checked.
thankyou !! Sorry i missed this comment!! We did a follow up video because we also need to re do the flashing ( and explained that in the video - also gave us a chance to clean the pipe out and see what sort of creosote build up there was) as to clearances yes - i am from the UK where you can't sneeze without a code ( lol) and live in rural Missouri where there is basically no code ( eek) so i try to do my homework!! We had a challenge with this "shouse" being so small and needed to work with closer clearances which we overcame by using double wall pipe and stove designed with a rear heat sheild, but as to the chimney we did build it up ( i think i showed that in the end) since we were within 10 feet of the roof peak we needed to go 2 ft taller than the peak - so we added 3 more sections of chimney above the roof, i think we have 8 or 9 ft inside of stove pipe. The total length of the chimney from the top to the base of stove pipe seems to have a good draw and i def learned more about chimneys than i ever thought i would ! lol.
@@Anony-Moose1987 sorry ! i realised the items were'nt showing to the public - if you go to our storefront here www.amazon.com/shop/thelittlepalletfarmhouse and click on the "wood buring stove" section - its all there now except for the stove itself which i've updated in the description! Thanks for letting me know !!
What about if your attic space is taller the the roof box? My distance from ceiling to roof is 3 f5 of attic. Do i just use a double wall insulated pipe to make up the space distance to the roof?
I'm sorry i missed your comment - all the links for products are in the video description - the chimney ( the silver part above the roof) came part from home depot and part from tractor supply but its all the same brand. The length of the chimney will vary from install to install because you need to clear the apex of your roof by a certain amount to make sure you get a good draw in your flu. If you look up the 321 rule for chimneys it says it has to be 3 feet clear of where you penetrate the roof and 2 feet taller than any part of the bulding that is within 10 feet. We were close to the apex of our roof so we had to build up the chimney to make it 2 feet taller if that makes sense. Inside the house with the stove pipe i think the general rule of thumb is around 10 feet ( the longer your chimney the stronger the draft) but you can also get stoves with an oxygen intake to help with that aaaand then there are rear exiting stoves... hope that helps some!!
I could not find the name of the woodstove you purchased can you please give me the name of the woodstove purchase and the link. I clicked on the link and it says it does not exist..
@@annaamador2120 i think the links got broken when home depot stopped stocking it. The stove is called an englander wood burning stove - available at tractor supply currently
We used an adhesive called “through the roof” and we should have tucked the top half of the collar under the shingles ( read all the comments) but the reason we didnt is because the shingles are in bad shape and Caleb thought they would tear by trying to lift them… so really we need to take it off and re do it - but yeah tuck your collar under the shingles… the adhesive mentioned is really good
please add a course of galv under the shingles lapped over the top of the jack flashing. wouldn't hurt to bib the sides with the same sheet galv before that
i don't think he made a mistake.. he mentioned how the flashing should be done and said it would be interesting to see how it came off in the Spring.. i figure he didn't want to attempt it in the winter. also, the pipe needs braces on the roof it it's over 5 feet above the roof!
We are not experts but from the research we did, it seems to depend on the make and model of the stove and also the clearance/distance to the wall. The model we got does not give out a great heat output to the rear so for us any wall tile or stone we put up would be for decorative reasons
thankyou ! Sorry i didn't see this comment - yes you are correct - we did a follow up and re-shingled the whole roof and re did the flashing - think i put the link in the description!
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
Because of the make and model and also the square footage of where we were installing it, this stove didn't need cold air intake, it draws from the surroundings. However we do crack the window when the stove is on, mostly because it gets so warm we need cold air flow too !! lol - but yes some other stoves require a pipe through the wall to bring cold air in. I remember reading about that when i was choosing which stove to purchase.
This is the stove is the ESW0016 Englander 15-W03 Wood Stove With Blower - we got ours from home depot but shop around as its available as a few places with different deals
Good video but the guy telling you about the support and the flashing is correct if this isn't done you will have leaks every time it's just a matter of time. I would hate to see that happen to you.
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
If there are truly "independent" reviews, I'd like to know where they are. Seems every site I've been to says that they "may get a small commission" if you buy a stove through their site. Huge conflict of interest. Of course they're going to recommend stoves that get a commission for! That's why there's NO agreement on best stoves!
hardly ! We are promoting what we know like and trust. Lol we would hardly have gone to the lengths of installing a stove we didn't feel good about just to earn a 0.2% commission from amazon!! That would be a conflict of "our interests" - also it takes hours of editing and filming to put videos together for other people to consume for free - there has to be some ability to earn income somewhere along the line or the only people who would have time to make content are those who don't need to earn a living - and that is not us!!
Unless you have been in the residential construction occupation this is not something you should even try . People who make these videos make it look easy. One mis step you could lose your house to fire . Always have your wood stove installed by a trained professional it may save your family and your house
Bruh your flashing job is so bad. You gotta tuck the back flap of the pipe boot under shingle. You can't just caulk it. That's gonna leak. Call a roofer sometime. It is worth the money.
This is not how you want to install the roof saddle, that, is wrong. That saddle top and sides must be under the shingles. You may have to cut back the shingles or heat them a bit to bend them. the bottom edge is the only part that sits on top of the shingles. More important, the stove clearances from the combustible materials are way too close, no way are they safe.
Thanks Keith- we posted a follow up video of tucking the flashing under the shingles in tbe spring when we re did the roof- there is a note to explain in the description… as to the clearances this is per instal manual, our stove is built for mobile homes and has side and rear heat shields together with double wall pipe- there is no heat from the back of this stove during a full burn- all heat from top and front
First video showing someone trimming support box, that’s what I needed to see, thank you!
Thanks for watching! Do watch our follow up video ( link in description) where we reflashed the chimney box to tuck the flaps under the shingles ( at the same time as we replaced the old ones)
Been watching a ton of videos to help me. But this video told me everything I needed to know. Thanks for the vid.
Aww thankyou! Make sure to watch the follow up video ( link in the description) where Caleb showed the corrected flashing under shingles instead of over !
Pull that flashing off and the ceiling support box edges you flapped over the top of the shingles. Cut those flaps off and screw into the inners of the roof joists. Then make sure the upper half of the flashing is slid under a few layers of shingles. Nice video. Just trying to save you a bad leak before it happens. Because it will. And you’re going to have to redo it anyways. Might as well do it now before it ruins your drywall ceiling inside and the insulation.
Agreed, that thing is going to leak like a sieve after the first year.
You are totally right ! We have had a persistent leak - credit to Caleb it hasnt been bad but he said the shingles were/are old and so he didn't want to lift them and risk them tearing so thats why he went over. I think then he cut the flaps off. But none the less, the leak is there and we need to re do it - but most likely at the same time as replacing all the shingles as its about time it was done ! Job on the list before winter - will post a follow up video for sure - thanks so much for your message !
@@jeffkalmar7871 "Then make sure the upper half of the flashing is slid under a few layers of shingles. "
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse must say. Appplauding you for the follow up on the comment. Most YTs wouldn’t do that.
Thank you. great job and great explanation everything you did. I went with double wall stove pipe and triple wall chimney on mine. Nothing better that a wood fire stove on a cold day
Good Team work! The stove looks nice. Angel from The Bay
This is the best video I have seen for wood stove installation. I have always been confused about the differences between various kinds of stovepipe and chimney pipe. Now, thanks to this video, I understand all of it.
Thankyou for your encouragement 🙌🏻 much appreciated!! It took me a while to get my head around it also!! Do make sure chimney flashing goes under your shingles however- we didnt do that part quite right!
Thank youbfor this video. I am doing this project very soon and there is lack of other videos to se3 how the entire process is done down to the trim.
Thank you, i couldnt figure out how the double wall connected to the ceiling being that they are both crimped but you answered it with your finely detailed video. Cheers!!
we went through the same thing!!! Glad it helped shed some light !!
I been dreaming with having the experience on installing a wood stove and enjoying, and thus I love watching videos of other people who have done it successfully, but the best part is, having a family while you do all those projects, me doing it alone is not fun, I love to see the man surrounded by his woman, the daughter and the pets, everyone is involved in the process and excited to join in when it is done, loved to see all the shoes on the floor of all the active members of that moment of joy, that was awesome.
Get a dog n a few cars that's our family. They will enjoy the stove with you
awww thankyou !!
@@Lovetwou Realize you said “that’s OUR family”, meaning you might not have kids, but you do have someone to share with you the cats the dogs and the cars, without that word “OUR” life has no meaning.
Such a cute little daughter. Thanks for the video. We are installing our stove now.
Awesome! Dont make our mistake though- read through the comments if your following us !! 🙈🤪
Great video!
thankyou!! Make sure you watch the follow up!!
It’s good to see the Marine channeling his inner Navy Seabee and work this out. These are wonderful little stoves!! I love the feel of wood heat
The stove is great!! As for Caleb - i agree - there is little he can't figure out!!!
Beautiful!
Well done video, thanks for that.
13:15
What a pro! Switching caulking tubes like nothin!
I've seen so many people struggle to even get one open after they find it 😂😂
You had that set up, ready to go...
Almost had to guess your pants are lubed the way that utility knife slides back in
bahaha you are funny - tho i don't think his pants are lubed 😂!!! Thankyou for making appreciate my husband in a new way!! Things I don't even notice...clearly it takes one to know one so i appreciate you highlighting these trade skills!! By the way we have a follow up video as he did flub on the flashing - we re did it in the spring
Best DIY video ever, only one thing the curtain seems a bit close.
@@TheFarmerintraining thankyou! Yes we get a few comments on the curtain i should have mentioned the stove we got is made for mobile homes so it has plates on the back and sides so heat output is only front and top… so the curtains dont even get warm!
Very informative, thanks a lot
Might want to mention up front that finding out where your ceiling joists are located FIRST is paramount to helping determine where to locate the stove.
good point - Caleb had all that figured before hand!
you are the man thank you!!
great info, thank you for sharing!
Your video puts the Duravent videos to shame. Well done!! 👍
Aww thankyou! Make sure to watch the follow up video ( link in the description) where Caleb showed the corrected flashing under shingles instead of over !
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouseI did... wrapped up the loose ends and was entertaining!
Next time don't fold the box over the shingles and tuck the roof flashing under the top shingles as that will leak
Yes thankyou! We realise our mistake but old shingles wouldnt lift without damage so we really need to redo the whole roof!
This will eventually leak.
They are re-shingling the roof.
I lifted up my shingles carefully and attached my sides down then took roofing tar and resealed along with silicone no leaks 😊 doing it myself saved myself 1200.00
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Fantastic video. Very comprehensive and well done. Kudos to you both. I do agree with some of the other comments that you may have wanted to do the box flashing at the top of the roof a little differently though.
Thanks for commenting - yes we have been battling a persistent leak, when i read the comments to Caleb he said he didn't want to lift the shingles because they were in poor condition and is most likely gonna have to rip it all off and replace the roof anyway - but you are right! I didn't realise he had done that and why so we will post a follow up video to clarify !
This was a very helpful video but definitely don't install flashing that way as it will leak. To properly install that type of flashing, you would need to remove some of the shingles above the chimney pipe and reset them over the top of the flashing. You also would need to be careful how it gets nailed in, if the nails are in the wrong spots, it could leak.
Cool to watch the project. Thanks for posting. I wouldn't trust the silicone to keep leaks from coming. I would be better if you lifted the shingles and slid the flashing underneath. (I've been there before!)
thankyou, yes we realised the error - see caption... we did a follow up video when we had the funds to reshingle the roof and add a mud room ! thanks for watching
Great family, congratulations! We subscribed.. I love what you're building over there. My wife and I live in Denver and we want OUT! It's nerve wracking and we've been looking for property and we're already half packed and ready to go even though we don't have a place yet! Your video is clear and easy to understand. You didn't show how you came up with the precise place to make your first penetration in the ceiling. I imagine you placed the stove, used a plumb bob to mark the center, figured your square dimensions then did the same under the sheathing. I just collapsed the telescoping flu on my stove and used fat wood to start a fire and it stunk to high heaven and I noticed smoke was escaping at the ceiling penetration. I must've untwisted it..Nice job and my wife and I will see other videos on your channel...
awww thanks for your comment - i totally missed it!! Hope you have found your dream place by now ! Thanks for your encouragement - yeah Caleb used a lazer to find his point but i missed him doing that ( he doesn't always wait for the camera - lol!) We were pretty limited with where we could put our stove due to this shouse being so small - and to get the correct height of the chimney and clearance above the roof apex we needed to be pretty close to the peak of the roof to ensure a good draw on the flu. Thanks for your comment !
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Can anyone get me a link or part# to the adapter they used to connect to the Chimney box? It is around 17:30
Been watching a lot of videos and this is the first that explains the different piping and how everything fits together the best. Thanks! Also did you install a damper in the pipe?
@@sixt9stang thankyou! No we didnt put a damper in the pipe as there was one already in the stove… also do watch the followup video as we re did the flashing to go under the shingles
This was really the part I was trying to learn more about is the ceiling portion because I understand the base and the separation of the floor between the stove but now I know there’s a kit I can go get a hold of. You guys live in a converted shed?
@@RyanandSharonWelch thanks for watching! just be sure to tuck the flashing under the shingles on the upper half of the boot that you nail to the roof- we did that wrong and made a follow up video fixing that error! It should be linked as the follow up video or in the description 🙌🏻
@@RyanandSharonWelch we were living in a converted shop yes!
Which chimney adapter did you guys use to make the double wall stove pipe connect into the double wall chimney pipe? I can't seem to find one at all i can only find the single wall to double wall chimney adapter but not the double to double wall adapter
You guys are awesome.
Thankyou!! Nicest comment on this thread 😂🙌🏻🙌🏻
Very helpful- many thanks!
The link for the stove is no longer available. Can you please give the brand and make and model of the stove?
yes its Englander 15-W08 Wood Stove W/ Blower (ESW0015) it comes up on google a few other places but i found it here brightesthome.com/products/englander-esw0015-15-w08-with-blower
So you buy from Home Depot and Lowe’s, but boogie on down to the expert shop for free advice. Great job.
Not really- i went there for triple wall and they didn’t have what i needed- the gentleman seemed genuinely happy to talk me through what we needed… would have happily given them our business if they had the parts but they didnt… even he said to try the box stores !
I just got into my kit this weekend. Wish you would have shown inside the box where the chimney pipe locks in to see how that looks. Did your chimney pipe lock inside that part or outside? It looks like another part should be there. There is like a 1 or 2 inch area with holes and some insulation. Does that end up outside your chimney pipe? Hope that makes sense as i am trying to get a few things figured out before install. Thnx
Great video and just want to say two things. Nice ladder with the steps on both sides and the shingles ,even old ones, can be gotten loose with a mud knife or anything to cut that goop that keeps the shingle down.the thinner the spatula the better. I subscribed !!
sorry i missed this comment! Thankyou! We did a follow up to this video to "redo" the shingles and chimney flashing. It looks much cleaner now!! not as much goop and no leaks!
I did the first burn of my stove outside to cure the paint boy am I glad I did
We werent sure about that given the stove needs the chimney to create the draw so didnt think it would get hot enough to do what was needed before install… it did stink on the first few burns though 🤷🏼♀️
I’ve (successfully) installed three wood burning stoves, but it’s always slightly horrifying to cut into the roof.
Right!!😂 there is like no way back again 🙈🙈🙈
Yes, that does worry me.
Measure 3x cut once.
Also a prayer or promise to pay it forward can help. 😊
Have you had any roof leaks yet ? Should remove shingles first then in stall . After installed you in stall shingles over metal flashing
yes, we just did a follow up video - we took all the shingles off and Caleb explained why he didn't do that back in the Feb when he installed the stove - you are right though - we did have a small leak, more so from broken shingles further up, so the roof needed re-doing anyway!!
Did the curtain burn and did the vinyl melt or break the glass, aren’t clearances at 48” required to fabric etc.?
i wouldn't be very smart if i hadn't thought about those things!!! We used a double wall stove pipe ( insulated) so it doesn't heat up like a single wall. Keeps the flue at a higher temp and creates a better draw. The stove we purchased is designed for small spaces and comes with a rear heat shield. Can also have side head shields added. So to answer your question the clearances were different for our setup, we followed the instal regulations and no the window and curtains don't even get warm!
I’m ready to purchase one now. Will it be ready to use from purchase. I been going to different fireplace stores, and they charge for the door, the fire box, and unit start at 2k
@@larryholland1466 i put the list of everything we purchased in the show notes.. after you get the stove you need the stove pipe, chimney pipe, through the roof kit and your floor pad
Did the duravent kit come with the stainless pipe (triple walled?)that extended out of the ceiling box? I’m looking at the kits but the pictures don’t show it.
No, we bought the “through the roof kit” first which was the box and fittings for the ceiling and attic space and that was separate to the triple wall chimney that you slide into it from above ( which we also bought 2 extensions for to get the correct chimney length for a good draw)
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse do you recall the piece you bought where you bought it from? I’m just trying to get everything I need before I have a hole in the roof and I’m incomplete without having everything I need.
@@Theandrew189 so this was the triple wall chimney we got. We bought 2 sections of 24inch and 1 section of 36inch www.homedepot.com/p/DuraVent-DuraPlus-6-in-x-24-in-Triple-Wall-Chimney-Stove-Pipe-6DP-24/204514670#product-section-rr
@@Theandrew189 this was the black double wall indoor pipe we got by supervent( but in a different length which i cant find on their site now) www.lowes.com/pd/SuperVent-24-in-L-x-6-in-dia-Black-Insulated-Double-Wall-Steel-Stove-Pipe/3572830
@@Theandrew189 this is the double ended crimped connector we used to connect the double wall pipe to the triple wall chimney www.lowes.com/pd/IMPERIAL-6-in-x-6-in-Black-Steel-Stove-Pipe-Union/3134405
Metal mounting box should have been trimmed all the way around for support instead of cutting the front and back off, it gives extra support for the chimney especially in high winds, the round chimney flashing cover should have been slid under the top shingles so they cover the top allowing water to run over it and down, now you just made a place in your roof that will leak very soon because the top isn't covered by the shingles, and no amount of silicone will stop it unless done right, it tells you in the instructions, keep an eye on it before your roof, and ceiling start rotting and causing black mold, as well as cracks in the metal joints because there's no upper and lower support because you cut it off instead of trimming it like you did the sides and screwing it down.
How low can you let the box hang down inside the room? does it matter?
Did you guys ever install a damper in the black stove pipe or is one needed ?
if you have a dry wall cieling , dont you need to have an insulated pipe anyway??????
As said from others that is going to leak. It needed to be under some shingles.
Obviously I'm still learning... But 8:00 what kind of saw is that? I've seen similar. But not quite that
It’s called a nibbler! It’s essentially the same as tin snips with a motor! Designed for cutting tin… also read the caption on this video if you are following the DIY as we had to redo the flashing shown in a follow up video
When putting stove pipe together is it best to have the male end down? So the creole drips out of the chimney and you don 't have a fire.
yes for single wall - double wall is different because the single wall is inside!! It took me a while to figure it out - but the pipes had arrows on indicating the flu goes up and the creosote always needs to run down ??? is that what your saying ?
I’ve always lifted the shingles above the chimney and pushed the flashing under them….or removed and reinstalled the shingles over the flashing …it then will never leak ..
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse I had a wood stove and fire place store in Quebec during the early eighties… and Im proud to say the very first Vermont Castings Canadian dealer …the team installed a lot of prefab chimneys and it was with manufacturers instructions we didn’t get call backs.
The installer shouldn’t learn on your dime …call him back and have him fix it.
One other note .. did you or do you need to have it added to your house insurance ? In Canada when you install a solid fuel appliance, its a good idea to let your home insurer know…then it get added to your policy just in case ..
Could you share a link of the stove and kit you guys used please! About to install one in our house and have never done it before!
Hi Jesse- we got our stove from home depot but they dont seem to be stocking it online now when i search for it … this is the stove however sold via a different company
www.firepitsurplus.com/products/englander-15-w08-wood-stove-with-blower-esw0015?currency=USD&variant=44667556004071&Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAiA68ebBhB-EiwALVC-NurFWueWOIKO-IQF9gdkb7qJt48xNb7ExBds2uQ2ol5yx4Ly6KVCkxoCYXAQAvD_BwE
For the other parts we got it all from lowes and home depot, i just posted the links in a comment below to Andrew Helms 👇🏻 you will find them in the thread below
I don't know how windy it gets where you live, but chimney braces might help stabilize the chimney.
we get some good winds but the chimney ( this far has been ok) perhaps being so narrow it doesn't create much resistance ....
Code is 5’ and higher require roof bracing
Double wall pipe also allows you to get much closer to a combustible wall
yes! Great point - we chose this set up because we are in 'small space living' and didn't have a lot of options for where to place the stove so we needed closer clearances.
How does your windows do with the stove being so close? I keep seeing that you wanna be 3ft away from windows. I'm just asking because I'm wanting to install a wood stove and it seems about the same as yours from a window.
we were really limited with where we could place our stove so when i researched the type of stove i wanted i was specifically searching for a stove that is built for small space living - when you start to look into it Different stoves have different options. Our stove -and many in the englander range come with rear and side heat shields meaning the clearances can be tighter. If you look into stoves built for mobile homes then you will find they are built differently. When we first installed ours i was going to change our window curtains out for a blind, and i was checking all the time the stove was on to see if heat was transferring and they barely get warm. My hubs said you can actually touch the back of the stove when its on ( not that i've tried it lol) but to answer your question its designed for a closer clearance that what is standard. You still want to follow the clearances recommended in the install manual though. Also make sure you check part 2 of the install video because Caleb re did the chimney through the roof in terms of the way he flashed with the shingles. Hope this helps!
So I was wondering did it leak as I thought it would not tucking underneath shingles
Yes it leaked!! I asked
Him why he did it like that but he said he thought the shingles would tear if he had lifted them… we’ve actually just finished redoing it as we added a porch and re shingled the whole roof- will post the new vid soon! Thanks for your comment 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Curious.Do the sheet metal screws penatrate through the inner wall of the double wall stove pipe? Thanks.
They are pretty short so i wouldnt think so- i think they go through the outer wall and into the cuff of the pipe your inserting if that makes sense?!
Have you had any issues with ice dams forming? We also have a vaulted ceiling and I'm nervous to install the wood stove as someone warned us that a wood stove's heat can cause ice dams on vaulted ceilings due to there not being an attic/increased insulation...
@@benrichardsonben1276 no i have not heard that- we have used it for 3 winters now with no issue- we do have a low roof so its easy to get up there when it snows and we do shovel snow off the roof - we are in zone 6a so it hits -20 at times hope that helps
Great to see someone actually DIY an install; the fireplace shops charge a lot of money for this relatively medium difficulty project. its not rocket science. Probably a good idea to check local codes. In Canada, the chimney height is minimum of 3 feet, and with that pitched roof you should have been about 5 feet and with braces (for Canadian code). Since kits come in 4 ft sections (Excel kit) you would have ordered 8 feet of chimney from the start. in other words, the first instal was obviously too short. Also, the chimney support box distance from the inside ceiling needs a minimum clearance; this instal is probably very close to the minimum. Of course, the stove clearances and floor protection areas (particularly if you have carpet) also need to be checked.
thankyou !! Sorry i missed this comment!! We did a follow up video because we also need to re do the flashing ( and explained that in the video - also gave us a chance to clean the pipe out and see what sort of creosote build up there was) as to clearances yes - i am from the UK where you can't sneeze without a code ( lol) and live in rural Missouri where there is basically no code ( eek) so i try to do my homework!! We had a challenge with this "shouse" being so small and needed to work with closer clearances which we overcame by using double wall pipe and stove designed with a rear heat sheild, but as to the chimney we did build it up ( i think i showed that in the end) since we were within 10 feet of the roof peak we needed to go 2 ft taller than the peak - so we added 3 more sections of chimney above the roof, i think we have 8 or 9 ft inside of stove pipe. The total length of the chimney from the top to the base of stove pipe seems to have a good draw and i def learned more about chimneys than i ever thought i would ! lol.
A good roofer will cover the whole flashing with shingles and you won't see any flashing on all vents .
Link to the pellet stove? Name brand? I love the mountains on the front. Did it come like that or is that an add-on to your glass door?
sorry i didn't see this - the stove came as you see it - the product link is in the description box!
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse just scrolled back through the description box and I still don't see the link 🤷🏼♂️
@@Anony-Moose1987 sorry ! i realised the items were'nt showing to the public - if you go to our storefront here www.amazon.com/shop/thelittlepalletfarmhouse and click on the "wood buring stove" section - its all there now except for the stove itself which i've updated in the description! Thanks for letting me know !!
What about if your attic space is taller the the roof box? My distance from ceiling to roof is 3 f5 of attic. Do i just use a double wall insulated pipe to make up the space distance to the roof?
sorry i didn't see this question - but i wouldn't be able to give you an answer lol - we are just learning too- i'd love to hear what you learned?
Does the fireplace have a built in damper? Or does your pipe have the damper?
the stove has a damper - just posted a new video on cleaning the chimney pipe - i think Caleb shows the damper in that video!
Excellent Video. Question - what was the length of the chimney and where did you get it from?
I'm sorry i missed your comment - all the links for products are in the video description - the chimney ( the silver part above the roof) came part from home depot and part from tractor supply but its all the same brand. The length of the chimney will vary from install to install because you need to clear the apex of your roof by a certain amount to make sure you get a good draw in your flu. If you look up the 321 rule for chimneys it says it has to be 3 feet clear of where you penetrate the roof and 2 feet taller than any part of the bulding that is within 10 feet. We were close to the apex of our roof so we had to build up the chimney to make it 2 feet taller if that makes sense. Inside the house with the stove pipe i think the general rule of thumb is around 10 feet ( the longer your chimney the stronger the draft) but you can also get stoves with an oxygen intake to help with that aaaand then there are rear exiting stoves... hope that helps some!!
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse no issue. I ended up getting what you used and have already installed it. Thanks
This video is a year old now, but if no has told you use at 3-4 guide wires to secure the pipe from the wind blowing it off the roof,
you heard now.
as long as it doesn't rain
I could not find the name of the woodstove you purchased can you please give me the name of the woodstove purchase and the link. I clicked on the link and it says it does not exist..
@@annaamador2120 i think the links got broken when home depot stopped stocking it. The stove is called an englander wood burning stove - available at tractor supply currently
How did you calk the flashing collar to the flue on the roof and what material did you use ?
We used an adhesive called “through the roof” and we should have tucked the top half of the collar under the shingles ( read all the comments) but the reason we didnt is because the shingles are in bad shape and Caleb thought they would tear by trying to lift them… so really we need to take it off and re do it - but yeah tuck your collar under the shingles… the adhesive mentioned is really good
please add a course of galv under the shingles lapped over the top of the jack flashing. wouldn't hurt to bib the sides with the same sheet galv before that
thankyou ! sorry i missed this comment - we did a follow up video which is linked in the description box
You need to tuck the flashing under the shingles on the top. It will leak
What tool are you using to cut the square out of the ceiling?
Called an oscillating tool
thank you Scott :-) I was trying to remember the name of it lol!
what a art great vid
Good video but wouldliketo have seen you begin with inserting pipe intothe stove.
i don't think he made a mistake.. he mentioned how the flashing should be done and said it would be interesting to see how it came off in the Spring.. i figure he didn't want to attempt it in the winter. also, the pipe needs braces on the roof it it's over 5 feet above the roof!
do you have to do anything to wall behind it?
We are not experts but from the research we did, it seems to depend on the make and model of the stove and also the clearance/distance to the wall. The model we got does not give out a great heat output to the rear so for us any wall tile or stone we put up would be for decorative reasons
you should make a roing kndling firethan fill up the stove with logs and dial down the air
Good job! But should have tucked the piece on the roof under the shingles instead. I'll be doing one myself before long.
thankyou ! Sorry i didn't see this comment - yes you are correct - we did a follow up and re-shingled the whole roof and re did the flashing - think i put the link in the description!
Yes yes, lesson learned about the flashing, now the know-it-all crude trolls need to chill, I'm sure your first install wasn't prime perfect !
That left curtain might have to go. It's bit close to the stove.
Its a great vid, but the install was wrong on the flashing part
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
Thanks. This is just how you dont do it. Did you research this at all?
what about a cold air combustion intake?
Because of the make and model and also the square footage of where we were installing it, this stove didn't need cold air intake, it draws from the surroundings. However we do crack the window when the stove is on, mostly because it gets so warm we need cold air flow too !! lol - but yes some other stoves require a pipe through the wall to bring cold air in. I remember reading about that when i was choosing which stove to purchase.
What about the damper?
There is a damper on the stove itself
What is the make and model of the stove?
This is the stove is the ESW0016 Englander 15-W03 Wood Stove With Blower - we got ours from home depot but shop around as its available as a few places with different deals
I can't believe that the 1 thing I watched this entire video for YOU DIDNT SHOW!
No clean out?
you mean before the first burn or just a normal clean or an annual creosote clean out ?
@@TheLittlePalletFarmhouse a tee pipe with a clean out on the bottom
Good video but the guy telling you about the support and the flashing is correct if this isn't done you will have leaks every time it's just a matter of time. I would hate to see that happen to you.
I thought people were being unfair about the roofing, but come on dude. You gotta tuck that under the shingles.
yeah - I've seen all the comments and showed Caleb, we need to re do it - we have had a small but persistent leak !! one way to learn ! Thankful for other peoples knowledge - follow up video needed !!
My anxiety went through the roof watching this.
Hoping you have removed the curtain for your safety
If there are truly "independent" reviews, I'd like to know where they are. Seems every site I've been to says that they "may get a small commission" if you buy a stove through their site. Huge conflict of interest. Of course they're going to recommend stoves that get a commission for! That's why there's NO agreement on best stoves!
hardly ! We are promoting what we know like and trust. Lol we would hardly have gone to the lengths of installing a stove we didn't feel good about just to earn a 0.2% commission from amazon!! That would be a conflict of "our interests" - also it takes hours of editing and filming to put videos together for other people to consume for free - there has to be some ability to earn income somewhere along the line or the only people who would have time to make content are those who don't need to earn a living - and that is not us!!
That’ll leak. Guaranteed.
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This is 100% what not to do.
Remove shingles and cover , silicone will fail and this will leak , not if it will leak , when.
Complete hack
Your roof is going to leak
it did! Caleb realised his error - see caption and link to follow up video where we reshingled the roof and added a mud room! thanks for watching!
That is going to allow water to roll down onto your stove...
Unless you have been in the residential construction occupation this is not something you should even try . People who make these videos make it look easy. One mis step you could lose your house to fire . Always have your wood stove installed by a trained professional it may save your family and your house
Bruh your flashing job is so bad. You gotta tuck the back flap of the pipe boot under shingle. You can't just caulk it. That's gonna leak. Call a roofer sometime. It is worth the money.
Hey Bruh did someone teach you how to be churlish or does it just come naturally for you?
fist off never go thru the roof lots of heat lost ,
This is not how you want to install the roof saddle, that, is wrong. That saddle top and sides must be under the shingles. You may have to cut back the shingles or heat them a bit to bend them. the bottom edge is the only part that sits on top of the shingles. More important, the stove clearances from the combustible materials are way too close, no way are they safe.
Thanks Keith- we posted a follow up video of tucking the flashing under the shingles in tbe spring when we re did the roof- there is a note to explain in the description… as to the clearances this is per instal manual, our stove is built for mobile homes and has side and rear heat shields together with double wall pipe- there is no heat from the back of this stove during a full burn- all heat from top and front