What D&D Alignment is Satsuki? (Kill La Kill)
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2023
- Today we’re determining the D&D character alignment of Satsuki from Kill La Kill!
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Ah yes, the girl that made anime fans go "I think I'm cool with thick eyebrows now."
I've always been cool with thick eyebrows.
Thick Eye brows are not even bad
Literally flawless.
She not only has the Doctor’s “attack” eyebrows from Peter Capaldi, but she can pull off THE PEOPLE’S EYEBROW, straight outta The Rock’s book!
You’re right but hey
The nudity in Kill la Kill is sort of like when artists are doing nude studies of the human body. There is nothing sexual, you are just trying to understand the human form.
Also I endlessly love when extremely loyal henchmen like the elite four hint that there is more to Satsuki than meets the eye. They weren't just ambitious attack-dogs, they were personally impressed by her determination and will.
I will say there is more to the nudity than just fan service. But there are multiple people in the show that make the nudity sexual and the human form sexual. A bit pedantic but I think it is important to clarify.
It's also an insanely well-made metaphor
I have multiple friends who dropped Kill la Kill because of the Fan-Servie. For every single one of them I always though "Ok, so you missed the whole point of the show then?"
To be fair, the show doesn't make that clear until a good chunk of the way through, and pretty much all the layperson would know about it is that it's girls in skimpy outfits fighting, one of whom using giant scissors. Additionally the fact that it's set in basically a high school makes it kinda sketchy for folks in the US, and the anime community already has issues with younger characters in that sense.
@@josharko111 Really? Idk, I never got that impression. It is werid, Like the video said, most of the scenes, even when characters show a lot of skin it never FELT lewd to me. I guess I can see smeone who just saw clips and snips getting the impression tho.
Recommending it to others in the first place is an uphill battle. I've had to say variations of "Listen, I know how it looks at first but trust me, it's not like that." or "the story actually uses the nudity as a discussion of its themes, I swear" many times.
It's like recommending Monogatari when people have only seen the toothbrush scene.
The whole point of the series
Is that Clothes are meant to be just clothing
The Person wearing the clothes are actually the Pure beings
@@shelbybayer200 I always liked how they pushed the whole point of "Use what you want, even if people look at you for it, be happy and secure of what you wear". So much so thet Ryuko only unlocked full potencial when she stopped caring about what others thought of her.
I'd always assumed the message was that your body is nothing to be ashamed of. As for the bathtub scene, I think it's communicating that for all her bravado and how untouchable she seems she is still vulnerable. Satsuki is still effectively a child and is what her mother made her to be. Her rebellion is that much more powerful when taking that scene and the implications of frequency into account.
It's more Clothes are Clothes
Humans are the Pure being (Even though Humans don't ACT pure)
There is a webcomic which kinda inspired from Kill la Kill, it's Hellgasm Slaughter, it's a webcomic on TAPAS about the reincarnated devil of pride Belial (similar to Ryuko in my opinion) fighting the forces of Satan and God to become the new ruler of the existence with the help of the renegade devils of lust and violence. Which alignement would fit to these characters ?
My thought on Kill la kill is that that
"Clothes are Clothes, Humans are the Pure Spirit"
As it goes into the themes of Japanese beliefs on Nudity
In Japanese culture, Nudity is Purity
In other words
Shame is the Enemy, Discard it and don't view yourself through what you are WEARING. Just be YOU
I still remember the interview with the dub actress and how she said she found it difficult to find Satsuki's voice but Gods-Damn did she *NAIL* those Heel-Toe Speeches she gave.
I got literal chills listening to her be a badass.
There are roles out there where a character might have a moment or a recurring thing that, when it happens, you just go for it and find the voice that just clicks into place. A defining moment for the character, I guess. Mind you, this is just how I see it, and the only thing I've learned my voice to is a fandub that hasn't come out yet and I'm pretty sure never will =~=
Imagine having such sheer willpower not even an Alien Parasite Clothing God...thing(holy fuck this show is so weird)can't so much as phase you, despite the *inCREDIBLY fucked up things* the psycho cult leader of a mother you have put you through. Satsuki is the pinnacle of characters who represent the phrase "I stared into the Abyss and it blinked first" and it's not even close.
Satsuki stared into the abyss, and the abyss flinched
“You have three seconds to watch Kill La Kill. 3…” *interruption by ad*
Guess I’ve got more than 3 seconds after all.
I am glad I am not the only one who got it too
I think you have actually distilled why I love Satsuki. Thank you for that
I think it was Satsuki who got me to keep watching. That declaration that she would gladly walk around naked if it would grant her victory was so awe inspiring without a hint of sexual undertone. I love these two, Mako, the elite four and even some of the antics of nudist beach.
Am I the only one who likes Satsuki to step on my face for *dare* saying... "I like your hair."
9:08 Slight disagreement here. Satsuki's motivation here isn't to assimilate Ryuko into the academy, but to trigger a violent rejection of it. She gave Mako a two star uniform to fight a Kamui. There was no possible way Mako could have won that fight and Satsuki had to know it. But by forcing Ryuko to fight and lose her own best friend who had been seduced by wealth and status, she gave Ryuko a reason to oppose the social heiarchy that Ragyo represents, meaning that Ryuko would be much more willing to fight Ragyo when the time came. Still definitely lawful evil since she's using her societal power to emotionally manipulate someone for her own benefit.
Still didn't include the OVA that gives Satauki a full on character arc completion.
Hoping to eventually see Ash Williams from the Evil Dead franchise
Maybe Saya from the anime Blood+
My take on the bath scene is that, in a show where Nudity is a big visual metaphor for Freedom, Ragyo is trying to make her daughter uncomfortable with her own body
“End this month in a… super fashion.”
I haven’t seen cyborg franky in the members only vids or the patreon
Looking forward to the continuation of the Berserk characters! Maybe one on Casca's Golden Age self as well?
i think you should do one on all the members of team fresh fluff from the Utopus Region
That’s definitely an “after the campaign is officially complete” kind of thing.
What Alignment is
Dinobot from Beast Wars
Kain and Raziel from The Legacy of Kain series (maybe collab with Strictly Fantasy?)
Silver from Treasure Planet
The Party in The Black Cauldron
Man you are my hero for doing this kill la kill videos and also love the fact you understand the deeper message of the show 😊
Satsuki did nothing wrong! (except that last haircut)
But ya, it takes a lot of people - including me - a while to appreciate and really trust Kill la Kill, because it's so friggin hard to parody ecchi without BEING ecchi. It took me about half the series before I finally trusted them - before I was actually sure "they really are making something that is more than what it looks like; that all the obviously-intentional stupidity IS coming from a place of purpose and intention, and not just stupid-for-the-sake-of-stupid". But as you say, even while they show inordinate amounts of skin and everything seems to be euphemisms for sex-stuff, the "sexy" in this show is never really "sexual" (except in those villain scenes where the sexuality is not particularly sexy, but is definitely creepy af), and it ends with the entire cast in a naked heap that has nothing sexual NOR sexy about it. They have stripped all that away (so to speak), to the point that the literal nudity becomes nothing more than a symbol of the characters being metaphorically laid bare.
Wow. Watch her bounce all around that lawful neutral square! She basically never leaves it until the end
Hey if Elon Musk is gunna deadname his own kid then we can deadname Twitter all we want.
You should do a vid on Dutch from Red Dead Redemption. He's got one of the most drastic alignment shifts I've seen in a long time, and is overall such a great and complex character. Personally I'd say he starts at Lawful Neutral and ends at Chaotic Evil.
Honestly to me Satsuki is the stealth protagonist of this series, and I love this series to death as my favorite anime.
Petition for an Owl House episode
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I still find it interesting that kill la kill is very philosophical
0:49 Stuart ya sunovabeetch! Two days of livestreams while I’m at work *in a row?* I can’t mod the chat and deliver pizzas at the same time man!
Thanks to Gaijin Goomba I am absolutely convinced a ton of Satsuki's inspiration is without a doubt Oda Nobunaga, the absolute GOAT. Looking at this character analysis that kinda fully confirms it. She uses whatever tools available at her disposal by any means to get exactly what she wants, and she does "use" people, but she also fully values her closest allies above herself. And when anyone dares to either question her determination or god forbid whatever her sick mother does to her, she absolutely just spits in their face and says "I don't give a fuck. I'm better than you and I don't need anything to prove it." To me that's why her admiration is so likeable. She comes off cold and distant when in actuality she internally feels completely the opposite about everyone she cares about and never does the question of sexuality ever come between her and other people. Everyone is just people first and foremost, and that's what she cares about.
Here’s hoping You’ll make D&D Alignment analysis for Amphibia and Owl House.
I'd actually argue that most of those lawful neutrals involving the school would be Lawful Evil.
If a character kills an innocent person to keep his cover in an evil organization that he's trying to eliminate the leader of that's still a lawful evil action, even if it's for an ultimately good cause. Similarly Satsuki is furthering the agenda of the Life Fibers by passing out Goku uniforms to students and bribing students with higher ranking Goku uniforms in a way that makes them seem like a good thing.
You could argue the evil nature but I would point out at no point did Satsuki force anyone to do anything. Despite her iron will everything that happens to the student body is the result of their own choices.
They're shown a silver of power and than chase after it like dogs never fed. And one who thinks weeding out that kind of weakness is evil is coming at from the same viewpoint as those idiots who think participation trophies are a good idea.
Failure should be punished. Satsuki just took that idea to the extreme because she was dealing with an extreme threat. And yes that kind of greater good does justify the means. And in the end she came out net positive.
Somebody has to hit the beachhead first , somebody has to fight the desperate rear guard , and occasionally somebody has to be sacrificed to buy time. Crying because you're that person or you find it distasteful is the hallmark of a spoiled child.
@@clothar23 My arguments were; Many of her "Lawful Neutral" dings were furthering the agenda of an evil organization and that evil for the sake of good is still an evil act.
I never mentioned participation trophies, I never mentioned or defended the people that were attacking Ryuko, and I never mentioned her punishing failure. You bringing that up is a strawman and incredibly infantile.
And yes, sometimes sacrifices need to be made. But with that military analogy you made you're forgetting that militaries sent out to fight are often full of willing participants who knew the goal and consequences. The sacrifices made in the series and in my analogy don't know the goal and are entirely unwilling. If you believe that sacrificing unwilling people for a goal they have little to no idea about is a good thing then you need mental help.
its funny because this show could genuinly be when i fully awakend to being ace aro
Honestly I feel like you should do a video about the dragonborn from Skyrim or The Inquisitor from dragon age Inquisition because seriously both of them do a lot of crazy things.
I have a anime nomination that I doubt that you'll actually do but I nominate a character from the anime series of one punch man and it doesn't have to saitama himself but I think a character who does heroism for fun but is completely bored because he kills almost anything in one punch while knowing that he's completely invincible to even the vacuum of space would be an interesting character to look at but if not saitama himself then I say Genos or king cause genos has been around since the beginning and king being the one who gets the credit of almost all of saitamas work could also be an interesting character
I remember hearing an interesting interpretation of the Bathtub scene as the mother, who is mostly life fibers at that point, trying to connect with Satsuki in a motherly way. However, because her mentality is subsumed by the life fibers, she tries to connect with Satsuki by "wearing" her, as an article of clothing.
Thought I'd share that as I thought it was an interesting interpretation of a scene that is otherwise abuse.
that's definitely an interesting interpretation
YES! You entirely understood her stance on sexual purity. The elite four are also pure and their relationship to her is pure. Little Nonon loves her completely with undying devotion but is also pure and presumably both of them are technically virgins outside of Saysuki's mother's weird manipulations. I personally see Satsuki and Nonon getting together afterward but it would be primarily for therapy since they both have a long association and trust each other.Although the typical fan interpretation is that the women are all lesbians, actually they are not overtly anything. And Non is mostly naked in company of several mostly naked men-and nobody ever says or does anything suggestive.
I could see this going two ways. Spoilers though.
First, the easy choice is lawful evil. For most of the series she is the big bad guy and stands in the protagonists way. She has a strict code of honor,and sticks to it.
On the other hand, you could call her chaotic good, she fights on the side of the baddies, but only so she can make her subordinates strong enough to thwart their plan to take over the world.
just pledged for the hard copy, can't wait to troll my dm by gifting him the waifu handbook
please tell me what he says
Out of curiosity, do you have any plans to do a video on a character from Re: Zero? I’d be interested in seeing how you tackle the whole time loop aspect with regards to alignment.
who would thought Kill la kill is a asexual content
How the fuck is telling hundreds if not thousands of people "Go ahead murder eachother so I can test my sister's power" NEUTRAL???
because the alternative is breaking the fascade and her mother killing or enslaving EVERYONE. very "needs of the many" approach.
ALSO, everyone chooses to go to that school. they signed up for it. notice how she got pissed off at civilians being used during the invasion on the other towns
THE GOAT
I maintain satsuki is really stupid with the strike on nudist beach given she gained nothing from doing that and could have just pretended to not no as the base was still pretty well hidden
Could you do besto girl mako?
It was great to find Kill La Kill, because the theme is owning your sexuality and not having it inflicted on you. Of owning your body and not being trapped inside by the perception of others. The bathtub scene works, because all of the heroes are asexual in their nudity no matter how conventionally titillating their lack of clothes is. Ragyo is the one to inflict sex on others, to use it as a way to strip agency from them. It really speaks to this mentality of older generations, usually judgmental family, to label little girls as fast or slutty, because those little girls don't read their naked bodies as sexual, because in puberty they want to be in control of their own expression, because, really, those adults are attacking them with this threat of forced sexuality. This show is a great barometer for whether someone is paying attention. From the very beginning, Mako tells us the themes like they're a thesis statement and points to them frequently. These are not subtle.
In that context, to read the bathtub scene and the nudity as merely placating kinks is to also engage in the forced sexualization of a bunch of kids. I mean, of course Mako is also very sexual, but she's not approaching it like a traditional ecchi pervert. She's really celebrating the ability as a pubescent teen to explore pubescent teen experiences. As an asexual person, these themes in Kill La Kill really make me feel seen.
I'm not ashamed of sex. I don't avoid dressing too revealing because I'm prudish. I avoid it because of people like Ragyo, who deny my agency in my own expression. They practically lay siege with a barrage of objectification. Satsuki is pure because, despite the repeated rape, she's able to withstand that siege and come out the other side with a healthy understanding of her body and her expression. Her sense of agency is pure despite that corruption. It's Ryuko who doubts, and waivers, and originally has this internalized perversion.
The dynamic between their images of self, brought to a point in the bathtub scene, is a perfect way to communicate this idea and really bring home that the people who interpret Kill La Kill as fanservice and also stick around for the bathtub scene are not like Ryuko, who doesn't deny the titillating nature of the kamui, they're like Ragyo, who is objectifying 2 children with the sad defense of "well they're dressed like that". I'm very happy I was encouraged to give the show a try despite the screenshots I had already been avoiding for years.
Please do deku
Damn, no Mako?
Can you do Gon from Hunter x Hunter?
I guess that this video was finished before i told you about the OVA, or you decided to ignore it so Satsuki would have the same dings as Ryuko 🤔
In any case, great video as always 😄
1:27 who are the other moms?
A video on Violet Evergarden please!😊
Are you going to make a MASH video?
Satsuki, is in word; Intense, she has focused do much on her goal for years she broke the stick up her butt in two. I can respect that but calling people "pigs in human clothing" is just mean.
If Ragyo is the worst mother in anime history, who is the worst father?
I'd consider Satsuki neutral evil up until she learns her connection to Ryuuko.
She may have a good reason for her subterfuge, but what she's doing is still evil, and she should be held accountable for it.