Taiwan elections: China's shadow looms large over presidential poll • FRANCE 24 English
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In Taiwan, the stakes are higher than ever as 19 million voters head to the polls on January 13 to choose their new president. China, which claims the island as its own territory, has gone so far as to cast the vote as a choice between war and peace. In this special edition, FRANCE 24's Yuka Royer speaks with Victor Louzon, assistant professor at Paris's Sorbonne University, about one of the most closely-watched elections around the world this year. We also look back at the history of the island. Plus, our correspondents report from the campaign trail.
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1 candidate prefer present status quo of Taiwan under ROC control, another 1 favors one country two system model proposed by PROC, the last 1 has no idea what is the future path for Taiwan to take. Take your pick and cheer! 🍻
With 3,000 Chinese crossing the US's southern border and claiming asylum every month the problems in the PRC must be very bad.
I would be skeptical of any party endorsed by the PRC government, personally.
Speak to Ed Snowden, and people survived from Gaza.
@@EuroTravChannel : Yeah, Hamas should stop killing Palestinians.
Delikado of trusting china budol kasi see of what happen to hongkong now it is gobbled by the communist and the free hongkong is gone.And this is is the greatest fear of the taiwanese na mahulog sila sa bitag ng komunista.Ano ang mga taiwanese tange?
A poor nation for decades? It was not a nation, but a province. Go to Taiwan to figure this out.
11:13 Taiwan - as the "Republic of China" - IS formally independent. It has a formal constitution that establishes it as a sovereign country on Taiwan and certain outlying islands. This is also reiterated again and again in official statements of the Taiwanese government.
The problem is that the US State department recognizes the one china policy which contradict support for an independent Taiwan
@@reaperhd1883 Any actions or statements by the executive - including the State Department - that contradict statutory law, are null and void.
And the Taiwan Relations Act recognizes Taiwan as a separate country.
Edit: Additionally, the USA is bound by international law - the Montvideo Convention - to recognize Taiwan's sovereignty.
Unfair, female politician shake hand w men w underwear, if reverse- taboo
The problem with the name of "Republic of China" is the word 'China'. And people with DPP ideology can't have that, because anything associated with"China" is considered like it's from across the shore. (i.e. only traitors love them), and so many of them always associate people from across the shore like someone lowly, dirty and shady as if you're born racially inferior. That's why they don't want to consider themselves as Chinese. They'd rather celebrate their Japanese imperial past with welcome hands (whereas people from the mainland consider Japanese imperialism a form of fascism similar to the Nazis). What's sad about Taiwan is a lot of them don't have much awareness of racial discrimination.
Another problem about ROC is that their constitution still consists of the entire China, however their ideology especially the younger Generation is now more Taiwan independent, meaning even though the country is still ROC, it's as if their island is already 'Republic of Taiwan'.
@@rollingdownfalling _"Another problem about ROC is that their constitution still consists of the entire China"_
No. The constitution explicitly only applies to Taiwan and the outlying islands since the democratic reforms in the 90s.
Mainland "representatives" were kicked out of the parliament by the Constitutional Court in '91 and subsequently the constitution was amended.
Taiwan and China are two separate countries that are not subordinate to each other, much like two Koreas.
fact
No, that’s not true. Two Koreans in the UN, one China in the UN.
taiwan and china conflict is way more complexity than both Korea, Taiwan and China both are important to the world, and China really want take Taiwan back as a province. However, both Korea actually doesn’t want to united each other and NK is not important for the world.
Sorry. We disagree.
@@user-vk5wp5jt6o Sore grape. UN is a joke only when you’re not allowed to join, especially after you were kicked out. Out of 200+ nations in this world, only a pitful single-digit” countries” treat you as a country and have diplomatic relationships, that’s embarrassing! When You call other bots, it only shows how desperate you are!
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙🙏✌️
hawaii? native americans? california? tibet has been part of china for centuries longer than hawaii was invaded by the usa just 80 years ago......
not to mention the usa further stole a bunch of land from canada and mexico too if you don't count the natives.
maine and washington used to be canadian,
and nevada, texas and california was taken by force by the usa form mexico
Sadly, HK doesn't have a military, so it was easy walk-through for the 🇨🇳 CHICOMS. Tibet? Their army wasn't even one.
Taiwan? well, they are ranked # 23 so it's not too bad for a small country of 23 million that didn't spend that much. under 2% GDP but increasing. Could be better though.
No one has ever thought that Taiwan is a country, let alone a small country.@@willywonka4340
Latest poll 2 days ago already confirmed this is slam dunk, DPP Continuity Candidate Le Ching Te is 11 points ahead of KMT Hou You i, so it really is status quo. Congratulations to our Taiwanese brother
Really? The mainstream info available is that the Blues and Greens are neck to neck.
Observers mentioned voter turnout on both sides would decide the outcome.
DPP is the disrupter, not continuity. It wants to abolish the ROC and has a pro-Japanese militarist version of history.
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I thought the deal was that the PRC would convince Taiwan of its benevolence by demonstrating how well it handled "One country, two systems" in Hong Kong. An impressed Taiwan would rush to "rejoin" China. How did it all go so pear-sheaped?
In retrospect, i think china was well headed in that direction throughout the 90s and early 2000s, but ever since xi took power and became the emperor, hong kong and taiwan took noticed and started to stray away from the idea of joining the mainland. Xi knew this, so this is why he jumped onto hongkong before the 100 year contract was up. Now taiwan is even more scared now. This is reflective with the national polls on how Taiwanese indentifies themselves as chinese or just taiwanese. Now more than ever, the 80% of the youth consider themselves taiwanese and taiwanese only, while about 60% of those over 40 consider the same. That is a steep cruve from what it was in the 90s.
vote as you want
@Nicholas-uu3jr "vote as you want" Hear hear. Don't let winnie intimidate you, he's all talk. Stay strong, Tai Wan.
so easy to spot ccp bot
@@lastsovietspy lol
Lol Good Luck If You Want To Be Ukraine Do Vote DPP😂,US Is Not Gonna Help You,They Will Cast You Off Like A Leaper.
For what it's worth, I really admire and support the people of Taiwan. You Taiwanese are a model for what the Chinese people could have achieved, still can, but were and are hindered by CCP. Stay Strong Tai Wan. winnie has more enemies at his back than he faces. Vote DPP. In the tradition of Queensland, vote early and vote often.
Yes, Taiwanese should vote like their grandchildren livelihood depends on it in the future.
Electoral Democracy is a waste of time. There is still corruption, bad management, and they pass laws that benefit the ruling party.
I think you nailed it. I suspect many of the nationalists who seem to support taking over taiwan are just jealous of the freedoms and democracy that many taiwanese people struggled so much for.
Taiwansese are smart. Yes, they look at Ukrine.
People on Taiwan Island should be brave and willing to sacrifice for the West. Stop being selfish. Opportunity to vote is more important.
Thank you. Requesting to Please make a video on how China is circling India - using kyaukpyu myanmar, Bhutan land encroachment, aksai chin in kashmir, Maldives, Pakistan.
Andaman and Nicobar islands belong to Myanmar, 7 NE states are not Indian land, free Sikkim!
There's no country called Taiwan, you're thinking of the Republic of China.
KMT and people's party are both way too naive if not just outright shortsighted self-interest about 'negotiating' with China for a peaceful coexistence without becoming another Hong Kong altogether. Go with these two parties, it won't avoid the war, but just rendering Taiwanese people's freedom democracy and human right to CCP China regime. Do you know Why so many HK, Chinese people escape out of CCP China every year since it established power in mainland China. It speaks of the values of freedom, liberty, human right to majority of human beings. Every year Chinese pregnant women go to US to give birth if they can, so that their children can have a better chance of a better life than themselves in PRC CCP China.
DPP all the way!
The KMT's coziness with China is alarming, bordering on seditious on its old-guard fringes, and indicative of its lack of introspection on its past wrongs. That said, the DPP really hasn't lived up to people's needs on housing and wages, though its progress on LGBTQ and women's issues is admirable. It would be nice to see more Taiwan-centric progressive parties step up, but alas, here we are.
All politicians
😮like Ukraine who knows what Taiwan is fighting for 😮😮😮😂?
KP will win 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
“Taiwan, formerly known as the Republic of China”, what are they known as now? Did something change?
As long as China continues to threaten neighboring countries, Taiwan's popularity will continue to rise.
She said "formally " not "formerly ".
Victor: before Chiang Kai-shek and his millions of refugees arrived in Taiwan in 1949, Taiwan was part of the “Empire of Japan”. Therefore majority of the residents of Taiwan had a different history to those who later came with the authoritarian KMT.
Please remind Koreans of the same! 😂
2024-2026 years, I predict, would be the most critical and decisive for Taiwan's DPP die-hard Separatists to exist in the UN-recognized China's Taiwan island. I am quite certain China will enforce the Chinese Constitution and UN Resolution 2758 of 1971 with urgency over Taiwan. A further delay is no longer an option to conform to 1.4B Mainland Chinese and the Chinese worldwide expectation
Taapei is historically part of china plz vote for peace ..dpp leader are ukraine zelensky ..
The PRC does not automatically have the right to all places previous Chinese dynastys set foot in simply because the PRC is Chinese. The PRC wss a new nationstate when in was established and no new nationstate automatically has the right to a previous nationstates belonging. This line of reasoning that because PRC is Chinese then everything that was previously Chinese belongs to them simply makes no sense.
Unfair female politician shake hand w men in undie, if men politician w bi kini tribe= gender issues
Nearly all the polls in Taiwan indicate that the majority people of Taiwan want Status Quo, but this lady chose the specific poll to tell its audiences that more than half of Taiwanese wants independence, which is very misleading.
USA officials have repeated that it doesn’t support Taiwan Independence. No Taiwanese leaders now dare to say that they want Taiwan Independence.
@@davidonformosa You and a handful of countries in this earth recognize your claim. Others officially agree Taiwan is a province of China.
@@davidonformosaSo why is the constitution called Republic of China instead of Republic of Taiwan?
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet?
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙🙏✌️
But Taiwan is an independent country
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Taiwan must cede to the Philipnas working in the Province 7 give them high pay, free rent in luxury apartments & will the houses of the elderly when they are deceased ! don't forgwt a lifelong pension & they can live in Taiwan forever & sit on the executive Yuan in Taibei & become the President of Taiwan with a royal pension ! LOL!
Will Taiwan become "The Next Ukraine" ??
Next South Vietnam more likely.
@@user-gzy12kjhomv25 Very well said sir.
Lost credibility immediately when the newswoman started the report by stating "Taiwan is formerly known as Republic of China". So, France 24, when did Taiwan chhange it national name from the ROC to Taiwan?
She said "Formally".
Indeed, they said formally. This election is so important everybody even you are CCP bots; actually china wants to make taiwanese feel that they have the responsibility and choice, it’s a psychosocial so obvious but I give quite points for ccp for using their own democracy against them hahahaha
Status quo + Democracy + effective governance with SOP - War risk - China obedience = No.1 Dr. Ko candidate. For a better future of Taiwan.
Ko is PRC's Ko, CCP's Ko. Most repulsive option. On Chinese TikTok, short clips of Taiwan's political figures are almost all about Ko.
As an Indian I admit that we annexed Kashmir, Sikkim, Manipur and North Eastern states because we Indians have too many children and we need more territory. In the future, we Indians will have a population of 5 billion, and we must continue to expand our territory, including Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, Tibet, and even the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and the United States...
Even France does not recognize Taiwan's independence, so it's a non-issue. Unless UN, G7, BRICS, NATO, EU all officially recognize Taiwan as an independent state, then it's a moot point.
1,5 billion Chinese will determine the Future of its province Taiwan.
@@walentystankiewicz8486not before a war
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Japan renounced the sovereignty on Taiwan which automatically means the Taiwan was free and independent from Japan. Both Korea and Formosa(Taiwan) were in the same treaty article no.2. So the STATUS QUO started from the effective date in 1952 as independent sovereign territory..
@@walentystankiewicz8486 1.5 billion Chinese is determined by the ruling communist dictator. The party owns China and people. You don't have any right. Whereas in democratic and free county Taiwan, the sovereignty belongs to the Taiwanese. That's the difference.
Ukraine war looms …..
Taiwanese want independence……hahahaha….
Theyre already independent. They just don't have a UN seat for whatever that is worth.
Mainlanders want to visit Taiwan requires visa.
@@laserdolphin6483
Dream on you foolish man.
Please consider getting psychological help.
@@abcdedfg8340
You are locked in from an asylum?
A lot of young Taiwanese would prefer the risk of destruction of Taiwan ( like the Ukraine war ) to reunification with China.
What a dummy choice .
No wonder Taiwan and Taipei looks like from the 1990s.
Shanghai looks from the future in comparison.
Hahahahha.
I heard Tsai is Japanese. How about Lai, could he be Indian ??
Japanese and Indian are good than you CCPs, PRCs
@@kakashiar Very well said sir. My Indian DALIT comrade had spoken.
First, my prayers go to Japanese earthquake victims. For neighbor Japan, Taiwan is indeed not needed. Taiwan is a buffer between mainland China and Okinawa. Taiwan's move toward independence is not natural, though. It starts after the Taiwanese textbooks were substantially changed, effectively telling children that they are not China. This change of textbooks were an order from the US. Anyways, prayers to Japan and wish you a prosperous year of dragon.
@@filipe5722First, the constitution still states it is Republic of China (ROC), not Republic of Taiwan. Secondly, France does not recognize Taiwan's independence, so it's a non-issue. Unless UN, G7, BRICS, NATO, EU all officially recognize Taiwan as an independent state, then it's a moot point.
If the Jews of Israel claimed that Palestine was their land thousands of years ago and were supported by America and its allies, then China also had the right to claim Formosa, Taiwan as its territory hundreds of years ago, and America and its allies should have supported it too.
By that logic, Taiwan would go to the Philippines. Chinese are no aboriginal to the island.
Israel was created out of the British Empire. There was never a Palestinian state in the history of the earth.
Except that that is not the timeline of how Formosa was settled. Prior to the Dutch getting there a few hundred years ago, there were no Chinese, only native non-Chinese. The first Chinese were brought over by the Dutch as labor. It is not some historical Chinese homeland. The PRC was founded in the late 1940s, it has no simple right to the the previous Chinese states or dynastys. Remember, it was the PRC that rejected these previous Chinese systems.
@@laserdolphin6483 The irony is that Taiwan's indigenous people do not support Taiwan's independence. They oppose the DPP. so no problem
@@theonlycaulfield This was indeed Chinese territory before the white people came, and it is true that the white people's crime is to divide them, pitting Asian nations against each other for their own interests until now.
Oh totally wrong . . . at some point Taiwan was part of the imperial china , not communist china. Any way , is perfectly understandable that the vast majority of the thinking population wants nothing to do with communism or slavery .