It affected some more than others. No one in my family were affected. As a kid back then, I didn't even know we were under martial law. It's ironic that smearing someone as "communist" is still in vogue under DPP. I guess not being hauled to prison & murdered is a major improvement. But censorship & harassment by DPP online army still a thing. So much for "democracy".
Yup, My parents lived it. I remembered that we're not allowed to stay outside after curfew. My father was a precinct police officer and arrested real criminals and dissidents alike. He had no qualms throwing criminal scumbags in jail, but it sure bothered him that the dissident went in for the simplest speech that KMT didn't like. Oh BTW they get tortured and sincr we lived in a housing project for officers ehich is situated behind the station, we hear cries of the interned at night that scared the bejesus out of both my brother and I. 😂 Oh yeah, he quit after 7 years of that crap, not to mention bribery of all sorts which he all refused. He was very vocal with his disdain of the KMT, to the point that his cop buddies told him it's best that he leave Dodge ASAP. 😂
Well , now you see the typical KMT 's reponse to that era , " we've appoligized , but it's just a small part of KMT's past " " surely there were some inconviniences , like poeple can't go disco at night " " wite terror , maybe yes , maybe not " , if someone says sorry by spitting some facts then using them to spin the entire truth , will you call that an apology ??? Though the main reason that divides the society now is definitely not about the white terror , but on this subject , KMT is still trying to remain its hollow dignity and not ready to embrace its dark history . Even my granny who couldn't read knows " if someone is truely remorseful , the right way to turn over a new page is to recognize his fult , swallow it , make it up to who suffered , live with the guilt , then be good for rest of his life " ..... Shame on you , KMT !
Glaring mistakes in the first 50 seconds. (1) Japan renounced its rights on Taiwan, didn't hand it over to the ROC. (2) There was no rioting when the ROC took over. The ROC troops were welcomed, but their corruption and discrimination against the local Taiwanese led to the death of a bystander in the 228 Incident which triggered a riot.
By the Cairo Declaration, Japan were to return Taiwan to ROC. But the treaty of San Francisco happened after 1949 America did not want to cause controversy on which China Taiwan should be returned to so neither ROC/PRC was invited to see the actual ceremony of Japan giving up sovereignty on Taiwan. The answer is very obvious, Taiwan was returned to China, DPP supporters BS argument on Taiwan sovereignty is completely not justified.
US State Department official position, which hasn't changed since the surrender of Japan, is that Taiwan's status is undetermined. There is a memo from Chiang Kai-shek to the then governor of Taiwan Chen-I that Chaign considered the ROC to be temporarily administering Taiwan on behalf of the allied. And the Treaty of San Francisco literally says that Japan renounces all of its rights to Taiwan. So the real BS is what the KMT (ROC) has been telling people.
@@alexossan2829 Treaty of SF was ratified without the presence of ROC/PRC delegates because the regime just changed on the mainland. US did not know who to invite to see the handover and thus resulted in only Japan renouncing the territory. Had the government not exchanged hand on the mainland, ROC would be invited to formally ratify in accordance with Cairo Declaration.
No surprise to see all the misinformation from the western media. Western English media is working very hard to support the Taiwan separation from China.
Japan DID NOT hand title or sovereignty over Taiwan to the ROC and neither did the principal occupier of Japan in accordance with article 4b of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. The ROC was a proxy military occupation force of the principal occupier of Japan given military government jurisdiction over Taiwan by order of General MacArthur pending transfer of title in a future peace treaty. Legalistically, Taiwan was occupied Japanese territory until 1952 and the announcement of Taiwan retrocession day by the ROC was an illegal annexation and violation of the international laws to which the principal occupier of Japan was a signatory. Technically, in 2024, since the ROC is a non-sovereign entity and government in exile, without title to Taiwan territory, Taiwan is occupied territory of the USA and USMG as principal occupier of Japan. Neither the ROC nor the PRC may claim title or sovereignty over Taiwan. The statements by the USA that it does not support the independence of Taiwan is a form of political repression since the civil government of an independent Taiwan that has renounced the illegally promulgated foreign constitution of the ROC must receive legal title from the USA in accordance with article 4b of the SFPT and the precedent of the independence of Cuba.
Just one more right wing proxy occupational force supported by the USA that committed numerous war crimes with impunity against the inhabitants of occupied territory to which the ROC did not have legal title to under the international laws to which the principal occupier of Japan was a signatory. As of 2024, Taiwan is still occupied territory of the USA and USMG since the USA has stated numerous times that it did not give title to Taiwan to the ROC as it was legally authorized to do so by articles 4b and 23a of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. That also means that the USA was complicit in the White Terror and other international war crimes of the ROC such as illegal annexation of occupied territory and promulgating a foreign constitution in occupied territory that the ROC did not have legal title to under international law.
Taiwan need to learn from Germany and own up to its dark past, as well as change its constitution to ban all statues and iconic worship of dictator Chiang Kai-Shek, in addition to giving reparations to the victims.
After having done some research about the history of this memorial hall, it seems Kuomintang(KMT) admires this former president Chiang-Kai-shek very much?
Martial law under Chiang in Taiwan with no democracy is fine when it suits the USA. Hongkong had no democracy under the British colonial rule…..was fine. Lo and behold ……now it is a big issue.
It was never fine, one reason why the US switched diplomatic relations to PRC, if we only knew that Taiwan would turn into the most democratic country in Asia, we probably would not have pulled official relations. We also thought that China would turn more open and democratic, but looks like Nixon and Kissinger bet the wrong horse and made one of the worst mistakes in American history. Never too late, and now it looks like there is a strong push to formally recognize Taiwan and send ambassadors there, if PRC doesn't like it, then too bad.
says ebuzznyc, while sitting in the comfort of an apartment, not in taipei city nor even any part of taiwan. When mr ebuzznyc has to live in taiwan and has no where else to go, no money to pay for decent housing, has to listen to veggie english use the media as another pole dance routine for her trans biden to get a turn on off of, while mr ebuzznyc is eating only crappy cheap instant noodles.........I wonder if ezbuzznyc will feel so buzzy anymore^^@@EbuzzNYC
@@EbuzzNYCNixon and Kissinger didn’t bet on China so they’d become a democracy, they bet on them in order to gang up on the Soviet Union which the U.S. was in a Cold War with. That was the right decision.
@@EbuzzNYC Ideologies are all lies, and the United States is worried about losing its hegemony. Any country that threatens U.S. hegemony will be considered an enemy by the United States.
Because Taiwan is not formally recognised as a country by the majority of other nations. Actually, Palestine statehood has more recognition than Taiwan.
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙🙏✌️
But what about the cultural revolution that was happening? The death of millions at the hands of Mao. With no record or abhorrence from the world. Rewarded by the UN and all nations.
So this was financed before the election by the KMT? Accidentally forgot that every year the Taiwanese have a memorial day on Feb 28th to remember the repression. China believes that once Taiwan is taken, the Phillippines will be easy, and then Japan. But Taiwan is key to expansion in the Pacific that seriously weakens the US military defense.
Where you get the idea China wants Philippines and Japan? The moment China had the ability to travel the world in the Ming dynasty and the Qing dynasty they decided everything beyond their borders sucks and it’s better to protect what they already had. Domestic problems is always the number one priority for them by historical and modern standards. The only foreign concern they care about the most is trade, the rest is rhetoric. Regardless of any territorial dispute, they carry on trade with every country. If territory were really an issue, they’d cut off those links entirely. They haven’t
This is a contradictory history, At that time. China said Chiang Kai-shek fled to places that were not Chinese territory. But now China says that because the Republic of China fled to Taiwan, Taiwan belongs to China
people need to get a clue. from day one, in writing, China says KMT fled to Taiwan which was part of Fukien province. Japan formally returned Taiwan to China, in writing as well. You are clearly an outside force.
Orange terror, indeed. China shivered when he was running the show, but demented Joe? No one's afraid of an old demented codger who can't even function without his meds.
"Still divide society". For most Chinese, to the past unfortunate events, they always take, don't forget, learn the lessons and move on, especially when the current lives are better. But, in the "democratic" Taiwan, the last 20 years or so have been different. The past events broke the relative harmony among different groups and animosities among these different groups are excited by the politicians and "media" which served the politicians.
228 was not discrimination against local but the story was distorted for political reason by DPP. It was action by national army against local communist supporters/spies.
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙(🙏✌️)
@@kawazoeasukpeople have no idea are talking. Taiwan's GDP is fraction of China, and has been surpassed by the neighboring Fukien province. There was wide reporting in Taiwan, so clearly you are an outside force.
Taiwan was under martial law for 38 years. It was in no way a"short period".
KMT wants to get elected in 1 week, of course they'll say that.
It affected some more than others. No one in my family were affected. As a kid back then, I didn't even know we were under martial law.
It's ironic that smearing someone as "communist" is still in vogue under DPP. I guess not being hauled to prison & murdered is a major improvement. But censorship & harassment by DPP online army still a thing. So much for "democracy".
Yup, My parents lived it. I remembered that we're not allowed to stay outside after curfew. My father was a precinct police officer and arrested real criminals and dissidents alike. He had no qualms throwing criminal scumbags in jail, but it sure bothered him that the dissident went in for the simplest speech that KMT didn't like. Oh BTW they get tortured and sincr we lived in a housing project for officers ehich is situated behind the station, we hear cries of the interned at night that scared the bejesus out of both my brother and I. 😂
Oh yeah, he quit after 7 years of that crap, not to mention bribery of all sorts which he all refused. He was very vocal with his disdain of the KMT, to the point that his cop buddies told him it's best that he leave Dodge ASAP. 😂
Well , now you see the typical KMT 's reponse to that era , " we've appoligized , but it's just a small part of KMT's past " " surely there were some inconviniences , like poeple can't go disco at night " " wite terror , maybe yes , maybe not " , if someone says sorry by spitting some facts then using them to spin the entire truth , will you call that an apology ??? Though the main reason that divides the society now is definitely not about the white terror , but on this subject , KMT is still trying to remain its hollow dignity and not ready to embrace its dark history . Even my granny who couldn't read knows " if someone is truely remorseful , the right way to turn over a new page is to recognize his fult , swallow it , make it up to who suffered , live with the guilt , then be good for rest of his life " ..... Shame on you , KMT !
Glaring mistakes in the first 50 seconds. (1) Japan renounced its rights on Taiwan, didn't hand it over to the ROC. (2) There was no rioting when the ROC took over. The ROC troops were welcomed, but their corruption and discrimination against the local Taiwanese led to the death of a bystander in the 228 Incident which triggered a riot.
By the Cairo Declaration, Japan were to return Taiwan to ROC. But the treaty of San Francisco happened after 1949 America did not want to cause controversy on which China Taiwan should be returned to so neither ROC/PRC was invited to see the actual ceremony of Japan giving up sovereignty on Taiwan. The answer is very obvious, Taiwan was returned to China, DPP supporters BS argument on Taiwan sovereignty is completely not justified.
US State Department official position, which hasn't changed since the surrender of Japan, is that Taiwan's status is undetermined. There is a memo from Chiang Kai-shek to the then governor of Taiwan Chen-I that Chaign considered the ROC to be temporarily administering Taiwan on behalf of the allied. And the Treaty of San Francisco literally says that Japan renounces all of its rights to Taiwan. So the real BS is what the KMT (ROC) has been telling people.
@@alexossan2829 Treaty of SF was ratified without the presence of ROC/PRC delegates because the regime just changed on the mainland. US did not know who to invite to see the handover and thus resulted in only Japan renouncing the territory. Had the government not exchanged hand on the mainland, ROC would be invited to formally ratify in accordance with Cairo Declaration.
No surprise to see all the misinformation from the western media. Western English media is working very hard to support the Taiwan separation from China.
@@qiensong7621 Come on! Declaration is more powerful than treaty. You shame your law teacher.
So sad. China should just leave them alone.
Japan DID NOT hand title or sovereignty over Taiwan to the ROC and neither did the principal occupier of Japan in accordance with article 4b of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. The ROC was a proxy military occupation force of the principal occupier of Japan given military government jurisdiction over Taiwan by order of General MacArthur pending transfer of title in a future peace treaty. Legalistically, Taiwan was occupied Japanese territory until 1952 and the announcement of Taiwan retrocession day by the ROC was an illegal annexation and violation of the international laws to which the principal occupier of Japan was a signatory. Technically, in 2024, since the ROC is a non-sovereign entity and government in exile, without title to Taiwan territory, Taiwan is occupied territory of the USA and USMG as principal occupier of Japan. Neither the ROC nor the PRC may claim title or sovereignty over Taiwan. The statements by the USA that it does not support the independence of Taiwan is a form of political repression since the civil government of an independent Taiwan that has renounced the illegally promulgated foreign constitution of the ROC must receive legal title from the USA in accordance with article 4b of the SFPT and the precedent of the independence of Cuba.
All these were done with the full knowledge and complicit of the US government , who championed freedom ,free speech and democracy .
Without the US pressure, the Chiang family and its KMT one-party rule could have lasted until this day.
Just one more right wing proxy occupational force supported by the USA that committed numerous war crimes with impunity against the inhabitants of occupied territory to which the ROC did not have legal title to under the international laws to which the principal occupier of Japan was a signatory. As of 2024, Taiwan is still occupied territory of the USA and USMG since the USA has stated numerous times that it did not give title to Taiwan to the ROC as it was legally authorized to do so by articles 4b and 23a of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. That also means that the USA was complicit in the White Terror and other international war crimes of the ROC such as illegal annexation of occupied territory and promulgating a foreign constitution in occupied territory that the ROC did not have legal title to under international law.
glad to see the story has been filming, reviewing a history and we can adjust our mistake.
Interesting content and story 🧐
Taiwan need to learn from Germany and own up to its dark past, as well as change its constitution to ban all statues and iconic worship of dictator Chiang Kai-Shek, in addition to giving reparations to the victims.
Amen, and I am not even religious.
After having done some research about the history of this memorial hall, it seems Kuomintang(KMT) admires this former president Chiang-Kai-shek very much?
Martial law under Chiang in Taiwan with no democracy is fine when it suits the USA.
Hongkong had no democracy under the British colonial rule…..was fine.
Lo and behold ……now it is a big issue.
It was never fine, one reason why the US switched diplomatic relations to PRC, if we only knew that Taiwan would turn into the most democratic country in Asia, we probably would not have pulled official relations. We also thought that China would turn more open and democratic, but looks like Nixon and Kissinger bet the wrong horse and made one of the worst mistakes in American history.
Never too late, and now it looks like there is a strong push to formally recognize Taiwan and send ambassadors there, if PRC doesn't like it, then too bad.
says ebuzznyc, while sitting in the comfort of an apartment, not in taipei city nor even any part of taiwan. When mr ebuzznyc has to live in taiwan and has no where else to go, no money to pay for decent housing, has to listen to veggie english use the media as another pole dance routine for her trans biden to get a turn on off of, while mr ebuzznyc is eating only crappy cheap instant noodles.........I wonder if ezbuzznyc will feel so buzzy anymore^^@@EbuzzNYC
I agree, no democracy is awful!
So CCP will step down?
@@EbuzzNYCNixon and Kissinger didn’t bet on China so they’d become a democracy, they bet on them in order to gang up on the Soviet Union which the U.S. was in a Cold War with. That was the right decision.
@@EbuzzNYC Ideologies are all lies, and the United States is worried about losing its hegemony. Any country that threatens U.S. hegemony will be considered an enemy by the United States.
I've noticed you never mention Taiwan as a country and keep hiding behind the word archipelago.
Because Taiwan is not formally recognised as a country by the majority of other nations. Actually, Palestine statehood has more recognition than Taiwan.
Taiwan is NOT a country. ROC is a country
I understand nothing the title the content
9:57 what language is she speaking
Sounds like French with a strong accent to me.
Good ear, I couldn't pick that up at first I believe you're correct@@martinfiedler4317
It's French. She was saying "Il y a encore beaucoup de travail a faire" Which means "There are still a lot to be done"
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙🙏✌️
Hong Kong never had liberty. Local chinese were second class citizens in their own land under British rule. You can’t give up something you never had.
How about Vietnam,Afghanistan,Gaza?
Agree, Taiwanese don't deserve the support.
wonderful production, 13:31 you can see how ugly is KMT here
But what about the cultural revolution that was happening? The death of millions at the hands of Mao. With no record or abhorrence from the world. Rewarded by the UN and all nations.
So this was financed before the election by the KMT? Accidentally forgot that every year the Taiwanese have a memorial day on Feb 28th to remember the repression. China believes that once Taiwan is taken, the Phillippines will be easy, and then Japan. But Taiwan is key to expansion in the Pacific that seriously weakens the US military defense.
Nonsense
Japan has nukes and a delivery system, it is not in danger of an invasion by anyone.
Naaah....
Where you get the idea China wants Philippines and Japan? The moment China had the ability to travel the world in the Ming dynasty and the Qing dynasty they decided everything beyond their borders sucks and it’s better to protect what they already had. Domestic problems is always the number one priority for them by historical and modern standards. The only foreign concern they care about the most is trade, the rest is rhetoric. Regardless of any territorial dispute, they carry on trade with every country. If territory were really an issue, they’d cut off those links entirely. They haven’t
China already have major problem to take on Taiwan, let alone the Phillippines and Japan. What could they gain from taking over Phippippenes, mango?
Also, you mentioned "Archipelago" What the hell? Taiwan is not an archipelago.
It's Green Terror now
and they let you keep trolling on internet?
@@WC62102 Aren't you talking about yourself? 😂
@@cowholy3031 My bad. I didn't realize that my reply is too difficult for you to understand.
@cowholy3031
Typical KMT Supporter’s response. Pathetic.
This is a contradictory history, At that time. China said Chiang Kai-shek fled to places that were not Chinese territory. But now China says that because the Republic of China fled to Taiwan, Taiwan belongs to China
Not as contradictory as your comment
people need to get a clue. from day one, in writing, China says KMT fled to Taiwan which was part of Fukien province. Japan formally returned Taiwan to China, in writing as well. You are clearly an outside force.
Naaahhh... nonsense
@@andyandys5356 中國人知道日本人離開台灣的時候共產黨根本還沒誕生嗎??你們矛盾的說日本在當時把台灣還給一個根本還沒誕生的國家??
I'm worried about the coming _Orange Terror_
Orange terror, indeed. China shivered when he was running the show, but demented Joe? No one's afraid of an old demented codger who can't even function without his meds.
There's no country called Taiwan, you're thinking of the Republic of China.
Taiwan want democracy but no one in Taiwan want move to India,the largest democracy in the world😂
Taiwan already has democracy 😊 bye Felicia
"Still divide society". For most Chinese, to the past unfortunate events, they always take, don't forget, learn the lessons and move on, especially when the current lives are better. But, in the "democratic" Taiwan, the last 20 years or so have been different. The past events broke the relative harmony among different groups and animosities among these different groups are excited by the politicians and "media" which served the politicians.
228 was not discrimination against local but the story was distorted for political reason by DPP. It was action by national army against local communist supporters/spies.
coming from a waishengren KMT supporter. You're not fooling anyone.
You might as well argue that the Jewish Holocaust was just an action against criminals.
Is there any European/American Revisit of the Japanese Terror for their brutal occupation and colonization of Taiwan?
TW land size is 1/18 one eighteenth that of Ukrine
Taiwan is about the same size as Belgium.
Taiwan is tiny: 1/18 (one eighteenth) the size of Ukraine. Is this truth allowed by EU?
Tiny but strong. In my country, there is more "Made in Taïwan" than "Made in Russia"
Switzerland is tiny, too. A country's geographic area has nothing to do with its political status.
'They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.' Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tibet? 🇹🇼💙🇺🇦💙(🙏✌️)
Taiwan’s GDP surpasses that of China and India. Who taught you that a country is called a country if it is poor but has a large land?
@@kawazoeasukpeople have no idea are talking. Taiwan's GDP is fraction of China, and has been surpassed by the neighboring Fukien province. There was wide reporting in Taiwan, so clearly you are an outside force.