How Does China See Indian-Ally Sheikh Hasina's Ouster in Bangladesh? | Taiwan Talks EP441
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- As Bangladesh’s provisional leader Muhammad Yunus begins to steer the country out of chaos, what does Beijing make of the ouster of Sheikh Hasina, who ruled the country for 15 years? China praised Hasina for emphasizing “political stability” and “economic development”, while resisting U.S. allegations of human rights abuses under her leadership. Does the case of Bangladesh sound an alarm for autocrats in China and Russia, whose state medias have described her toppling in relation to terms like “color revolution” or even “Arab Spring,” a wave of anti-government, pro-democracy uprisings that overthrew governments across the Middle East and North Africa beginning in 2010?
Our guests:
Mumin Chen
- National Chung Hsing University Graduate Institute of International Politics Professor
Roger Liu
- National Sun Yat-sen University (NSYSU) International Master's Program in Asia-Pacific Affairs (IMAPA) Assistant Professor
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Try to be less biased against China. At least pretend to be neutral. Just try it.
why did youtube censor my comment?
I think its interesting, you discussed how china doesn't want to show this news so they don't give their citizens any ideas of revolution. That's exactly what's happening here in the United States. This is why they focus all our attention to our "elections" which are basically a reality TV show at this point. I saw a 2 min clip here about the revolution in Bangladesh, the rest I had to find from India and Taiwan
This is a much better show than what we have been watching our neighbour India's mainstream media discussing over the last few days. I am impressed with the knowledge of the expert guests and the anchors questioning with a lot of backdrops. ❤
if secularism means anti religion then thats weak ideology to promote
well 30 min of China bashing.
Well, China has also committing Uyghur genocide, but you are hypocrite enough to protest against that.
Indian media is far better than kangladeshi media
@@infi44 Bangladeshi people always voice out for the Uyghurs. There is no restriction to support anybody.
This discussion misses the most important point. The Bangladeshi people considered Hasina a 100% proxy of India. The ouster of Hasina necessarily means the ouster of Indian influence from Bangladesh. The people hold India responsible for enabling Hasina to stay in power as a dictator. India now has a very bad image in Bangladesh which they cannot ever repair in many years.
This anti-India narrative is nothing new in Bangladesh. They solely believe that everything negative happens in Bangladesh due to India. It is pure self-victimization. They want to avail every facility that India gives them and then they backstab them. I just hope India can now focus on domestic issues. Bangladesh has enough "friends" outside to help them.
Also Bangladesh is fucked up from all ways !
RIP stability of Bangladesh 😂
@@pranavgandhar4604
Bangladeshis have got their eyes and actual freedom back where as Indians are blind because of GODI media.
Bangladeshi people has created a record of electing a Nobel prize winner with doctorate degree as their head of the state.India will never be able to break that record as they like Modi too much.😂
@@GetWisdomTV as an Indian I agree and support this movement of Bangladeshi people, however I have one request please take all Bangladeshi iligals from North east India. We are becoming minority in our own homeland
@@dreamadventure8220
Did you hear statement of India’s foreign minister Jaishankar?
He stated, officially, 19000 Indians stay in Bangladesh.But unofficially hundreds of thousands of Indians stay and work in Bangladeshi companies.Because of that India earns $10 billion dollar as remittance.
About 1 thousands of Bangladeshi's were killed last month alone because of interference of India government by installing Hasina as dictator in Bangladesh.
Hasina has enabled laundering of $97 billion
dollars from Bangladesh causing huge unemployment.
So, please ask Modi to compensate Bangladesh and solve that migration problem.Look, there is a big flood is going on in Bangladesh because of the water coming down to Bangladesh from India as per UN report and India even did not issue condolence to Bangladesh yet.
I am a Pakistani citizen, and we are very proud to see the Bangladesh student's successful movement. It became the global model of freedom fighters. NOW, the entire Pakistan is changing into Bangladesh. In Pakistan, It is a hot cake-talking issue that inspires our students. Due to the UNJUST rulers' mistakes of our previous generation, we are separated today, but our new generation deeply loves the Bangladeshi brothers
May Allah grant you people freedom too!
As a Bangladeshi, we are proud of your feeling
Pakistan can never have a stable government. The real power lies with the Army.
Soon Bangladesh will be the next superpower like Pakistan
As a Bangladeshi, we love you too. best of luck for you guys. We all should get stronger together to support Palestine one day. I am Not saying this as a Muslim, saying this as a human being.
Hasina is a damn liar. St Martin is a coral island and not good for any big structure.
True
😂😂have ever read US navl report
@@pranavgandhar4604tgey dont read much
India was trying to leech out of Bangladesh, now they are crying for what? @@pranavgandhar4604
@@pranavgandhar4604 reading indian news propaganda and found us naval report, please show where the naval report is outside of your media
We Bangladeshi have ousted India's puppet Hasina. We in Bangladesh boycott India as India is a trouble causer in this region.
Being friendly doesn't mean being a puppet. If Hasina was a puppet of India, China would have never been allowed to build mega projects in Bangladesh.
Pay debt first beggars 😪
@@nimrmn they allowed to take money from china and china money is transferred to India
you should pay the debt bills of your electricity first and then talk big. Big talk, no money- Bangladeshis
@@JISUDAN-yg7vytrue bro 👌😊
Bangladesh will always be a friend of china but not with India .
Dellusion. This coup is entirely backed by India. Don't believe me. Just take a look - two days ago, Modi had an urgent meeting with Joe Biden on Bangladesh. Just these two. No other head of state level meeting has taken place on us. This clearly indicates that Bangladesh is a joint project of these two powers. We've just played into their hand. If you want further proof - keep watching on what happens to China funded ongoing projects in Bangladesh, specially take a look at Ruppoor power plant. A US/India backed govt will just scrap it.
Unfortunately bangladesh no matter how close they be with China cannot overrule geography. Locked by India. And pray to your Allah that we don't get a Prime minister who think like Netanyahu.
😂.. Stockholm syndrome
@@biswanathmahapatra8441 Just as India got for US and UK.
Therea are lots of internal and international reasons.
Hasina’s relationship with India was not bilateral-political but personal. With India's support she began her tyrannical regime, blindsided the West by portraying the Islami political party and the common Bangladeshi students of Islamic Institutions as 'Islamic Extremist' which is far away from the truth. Hasina’s goons were responsible for staging many incidents wearing the mask of Islam. Prof Chen is right about that, JEI is just another political party and they try to utilise the people's religious ideology in their favour to win seats in the Parliament. Not to forget Bangladesh is a 90% Muslim country and most of the people have little knowledge about Islamic Laws, so easy to be manipulated
Being an Indian, I sincerely hope Prof Younis maintains a dignified distance from India. Wishing you all the best.
@@nabaduttaYou should try reading some comments in Bangladesh medias. All of the bangladesh people are spitting venom against India. Some of them want to wage a war against India and liberate our 7 sister states.
Between the last week of July and the first week of August 2024, nearly 1,000 people were killed under the direct orders of Hasina. This is not an isolated incident; mass killings also occurred during her regime in 2008 and 2013. In each instance, she somehow managed to escape accountability, but this time is different. Additionally, Hasina has siphoned off a staggering amount of money from various development projects and sent it to her corrupt and ineffectual son, Sajib, who currently resides in the USA.
@@TaufiqulArif people are watching Islamist killing minority videos, stop lying !
So you are saying Bangla bhai, JMB was a mith? There was no Islamic extremist in Bangladesh?
I am a bangladeshi watching this show. I mostly agree with both of the guests. However, professor Chen's view of how China try to sell its propaganda to its audiences is powerful. In contrast to Taiwan's dispute with China, Bangladesh has really major issues with India. Ousted fascist dictator Hasina is direct clown of India and through Hasina India tries to crub the interest of the people of Bangladesh, by nurturing Hasina to became dictator. There is evidence of how India helped dictator Hasina to rig last three elections. As Taiwan's focus on China to maintain its sovereignty, the show barely look at the whole picture. As like China, India doesn't behave well with neighbouring small states.
The "behavior" of countries with each other is based on the power differential between them and commonality of national interest. When people from smaller countries complain of India not behaving well with neighboring countries they forget this geopolitical fact and instead seek equality in relationship which is never a possibility. Everyone learns this fact. Either the easy way or the hard way.
Which world are you 25% Bangladesh desis ate in India..in Assam, west Bengal and now in all other cities 😀 including Hyderabad ( where I live). BJP also put restrictions on local congress party, so what? Do you want us to interfere in your country affairs? Stop criticising India.
@@arunsar7893 Your reply bold my argument. Don't worry. Let's fate decide what's on the way.
@@ktm-bd Not sure what that suppose to mean.
@@arunsar7893no wonder why india has lost good connections with all its neighbours!
There is an anti India sentiment in Bangladesh after fall of pro India govt. This was best opportunity for any country other than India to build strong collaboration with Bangladesh!
Being friendly doesn't mean being a puppet. If Hasina was a puppet of India, China would have never been allowed to build mega projects in Bangladesh.
@@Kalinga_3 You think 08 times powerful china is your equal and arch rival !!!!
@@Kalinga_3
Hasina IS India's puppet doll.
Look who gave her shelter after her fascist regime fell? India. London and Belarus rejected her plead for political safety within 20 minutes, India took only two hours to take her in.
Who helped orchestrate the staged elections for three consecutive times? India.
Why do Bangladeshis detest an Indian intervention in their activities? Hasina made sure India gets uninterrupted support from the government despite common people's protest, going as far as to provide benefits that ultimately harms the national security.
So yeah, by definition Hasina was INDEED India's puppet doll, if nothing else.
India just don't realise how super capitalistic today's communist China has become. As even the Taiwanese of man says near the end, _don't let politics get in the way of making money._ China will trade with anybody if they can make a profit doing so. Doesn't matter what you do in your country. They don't care how you get into power, or how you stay in power. Those are domestic issues. They don't interfere. They don't care.
@@Kalinga_3why were RAW agents in Bangladesh during the student protests?
The analysis is mostly accurate, except for its portrayal of India. People consider Hasina as an Indian puppet. That means it's about 'India out'. Bangladesh no longer views India as a friendly neighbor, but rather as a hostile and aggressive nation with colonial ambitions toward Bangladesh.
That's the east pakistani in you that feels that way. Hasina was a dictator, but India is not our enemy.
@@nimrmn Here we go, gomutra is here as well! You guys are hosting Hasina at this moment and trying to say India not an enemy!
See what I told you
You hate india because we are Hindu@@fazlulkarim437
@@fazlulkarim437 India is hosting your millions of illegal Bangladeshi also , why you are not complaining about it ? Please take them
@fazlulkarim437 Hey brain trust, what does "India is not OUR enemy" imply? That means I am speaking as a bangladeshi (Khilgaon). Get off the phone and read some books for our countries sake.
Jamat E Islami is not with ISI. That is the version what Indian media try to portray wrongfully. One of the people got it completely wrong.
We Don’t Believe indian Media and Politicians.
Jamat has always been with ISI and still is.
Jamat E Islami wants Bangladesh to be under Islamic Shariat law, curve women's rights and girl education. Jamat E Islami is not like ISI, but more like Taliban.
@@elbarca223 very Funny. You have to know about Jamat Islami. You have to know About Bangladeshi culture and people.
The same people tried to portray sir Dr Younus as a terrible human being.
correction from Bangladesh: Dr. Younus sir isn't caretaker govt., he is interim govt.
According to former Bangladesh former Chief Justice Surendra Sinha who was removed from office by Sheikh Hasina, the present Yunus setup is illegal as there is no constitutional provision for such a set up. So any decisions taken by this setup isn't legal. Also just think will India allow such a thing to happen for Hasina, no. Modi must have definitely spoken on this issue with Yunus and warned him to refrain from this.
Why would you want UN to investigate the student deaths which country gets internal matters investigated by UN. Do not you have police and courts to investigate that; what have you built in these 50 plus years then. Which self-respecting nation does such a thing of going to UN for internal issues. Who are you trying to impress and prove what. This all looks so childish.
@@AjitKumar-lo9yu Our chief adviser Mohammad Yunus invited UN to actually investigate the genocide committed by Sheikh Hasina. Internal investigation will be there but UN investigation is for the world to witness what Hasina did. Bangladeshi Interim Governments can also use this investigation to prosecute Hasina in International Criminal Court.
@@AjitKumar-lo9yu Former chief justice himself is Hasina’s pet. And Hasina government was more illegal
@@AjitKumar-lo9yuit's not constitutional to lead student rebel against this gov.
@@user-de4xj5cd4oAnd UN also will investigate the massacre of minority Hindus by razakaars , after fall of Sheikh Hasina Govt?
Professor Muhammad Yunus is not just a PhD from 1970s but also a Nobel Laureate from recent times
Peace Nobel Prize like Barack Obama who used many drones in Afghanistan and Irak. The Nobel Prize behind the change of Arab world with Bush by ploting Arab spring. Do not trust much the Peace Nobel Prize it is more political than anything.
The real Nobel Prizes are physics, chemistry, physiology of medicine and literature.
Economics and peace are political .
us poppy dog,yunus
@@tunumiah4372 not a pedagogical liar and since Ziaur Rahman we haven't had a qualified yet honest Head of State so he shall be supported to prove how the country was better off now
yunus has no idea about politics just baby
@@tunumiah4372so you were happy with Class-8 pass Hasina or Tea-seller Modi? Suits you well!
11:00 you are wrong. Hasina's Party is called Bangladesh Awami League(BAL) while Bangladesh Nationalist Party(BNP) is the opposition party.
Only this are incorrect but except that entire analysis were good compared to indian godi media.
Really this analysis was excellent.
@@yeaminhossen4919 but the importance of this information must be far more than anything else
@@yeaminhossen4919This entire analysis was based on godi media.
Literally ignoring anti-Indian sentiment of the movement. How a boycott India movement was going on long before collapse of the regime. Or how China secretly helped the ousting of Hasina.
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Saints martin is a part of Bangladesh land and We will not allow any country influence in saints martin. Because people of saints martins are citizen of Bangladesh and it's our own rights. It's a part of our country and will always remain.
right
Saint Martin also sounds very Bangladeshi
i can bet you it will be a chinese base either overt or covert
As a Bangladeshi born Australian, I can say one crucial aspect overlooked in the discussion is that Bangladeshi people harbor very strong anti-Indian sentiments, which makes the dynamics very complex in Bangladesh.
This talk-show is ridiculous, trying to see Bangladesh from India’s eye.
Bnp was never pro china, Bnp is just anti- India. Bnp openly condemned China for supporting dictatorship in Bangladesh before last rigged election.
People of Bangladesh has affinity for Japan, China & Russia & mixed feelings towards USA.
But what's the reason behind these anti India sentiment? Especially after India helped Bangladesh gain independence from Pakistan?
@@RamaKrishna-em5xt why don't you check the recent events out? How long will you keep exploiting the term "friendship" by always dragging in the war?
@@RamaKrishna-em5xt It's actually the combination of multiple factors. Although to be fair, it's not totally anti-India, rather it's actually anti Indian government due to their decisions. But the reactions to recent tragedies and a chain of events and reactions from the Indian population has birthed hate for Indians among Bengalis. Such as trying to create instability by sharing fake news, laughing at the deaths of flood affected people, anti Muslim ( Bangladesh is Muslim majority ) rhetorics, pro Israeli movements and etcetera. I can't actually say them all here right now because the list is pretty big but you can say the Hasina government played a big role in fueling the hate, also the Modi government took pretty selfish decisions causing us harm and then there's the beef between Indians and Bengalis on the internet. All and all it has worsened the image of Indians in the minds of Bengali people. I do not want any hostility between neighbours actually, it would be nice if Indians tried to see from our perspective. But the Indian media does not let them do that and they create a very wrong message.
@@RamaKrishna-em5xtTry to know from reliable sources, India meddles in Bangladesh elections from 2014 which kills Bangladeshi democracy.
Extremely balanced interaction not heard in most of theIndian media.the question setter has all the quality of a judge.Congratulation.
I got tuned to your programme just by chance.
As citizens of Bangladesh, we have observed China's overt support for the Hasina administration, despite numerous allegations of violation of laws, human rights abuses, enforced disappearances, and electoral manipulation, genocide, killing of innocent protesters against all these irregularities where China was silent. It is becoming increasingly clear that during the Hasina regime neither China nor India genuinely prioritizes the well-being of the Bangladeshi people. We strongly believe that our nation should not be exploited for any external power's vested interests.
We urge all international partners to build relationships based on mutual respect and common interests with the people of Bangladesh. The younger generation in our country has a strong inclination towards democracy and is critical of undemocratic practices. We encourage all to understand these perspectives and engage meaningfully with us.
To be frank, i think China Just consider the protest happened in Bangladesh as bengals internal affairs which china being a foreign country shouldnt interfere in.
Do you even understand that it is not possible to work with people of the country that keeps electing dictators? Khaleda and Hasina are both dictators. Last time AL won and killed everybody else. This time after Hasina left you have now eliminated AL leaders. Now they will pay back in the same coin some day. Also Nobel peace prize is not really a merit based Nobel prize. That is a prize for donating millions to Clintons and Obama's. He sucked the blood of common illiterate bangladeshi poor people by lending money at 30+%. Did not pay taxes worth 1200 Crores and fled to the US. This is how he earned the money he donated to Clinton and Obama. As a result got Nobel Peace prize but not the Nobel prize for economics like Amartya and Abhijit. Now you have put him on top without any election. How are you following democracy? It is mobocracy. You guys don't even understand what democracy is. Atleast Hasina / Khaleda had won elections howevermuch you guys don't like those elections. Even the election which brought Biden as the President was not trusted by about 40% US voters. But to install someone without election or without a commitment to election in a short timebound manner is basically signs of dictatorship. This just shows that the people don't understand what democracy is. They just brought on themselves another dictator. This time without election. What % of voters are the students? Why should that minority decide course of the nation? This is CIA playing with you guys man.
You guys are 100 % correct. Sheikh Hasina regime was dependable on India 100 % not dependable on people of Bangladesh, that’s the reason for ousted regime chief.
Mr Mumin chen is Correct about Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh. JI is not a extremist organisation but most democratic party in Bangladesh.
Most of the Bangladeshi are peaceful Muslim who love their religious values & virtue.
But Hasina used the 'extremist' tag to oppressed people.
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What a joke 😂
Another one......
@@SonuTanti-xf5lqthis is another one hasina is now presindent of india
JI is a US dallal, the party once lead by war criminals of 71, and has the bleak record of religious extremism. Only the US will try to legitimize them.
Didn't UN condemn the attacks against Hindus happening in bangladesh? Didn't Hindus in Bangladesh protested against attacks happening against them? Still a lie?
Sheikh Hasina is a liar
@@trdalamin And a murderer
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You are a lier.
Sheikh Hasina is a great politician
@@asazmer3962she wouldn't have fall if she was a great politician. She made one mistake after another lol. A liar, a murderer and a bad politician.
We need Teesta Maga Project✊
no we don't India is done helping Bangladesh no more trade no more power export to Bd. Ungrateful east Pakistan can go back to stone age
Mega
Thank you so much. Both the guest represented actual scenarios of Bangladesh. We are glad that you valued the voice of youth. I hope in geopolitical issues China and Bangladesh will always tie together
I will come back in 5 years to see how this turned out and in whose favour, right now I will watch the drama unfolding 😂
The professor is very honest in his discussion regarding moderate Bangladesh and the mind of the youth. In fact, all these years you have heard of religious extremism or religious parties's involvement in there in Bangladesh, facts will shock you, even a blind homeless guy the from the street of Dhaka can confirm how sick and weak those setups were by the government themselves. No mainstream media raised a single question, not a single question to hold the government accountable on anything.
When it comes to investigation by sovereign institutions, it was never ever done by the Hasina's government, no sovereign institutions existed. You don't have to believe me or argue on it, just go for fact check if you are fair in your motive.
Sheik Hasina maintained balanced relationship with both India and China which gave stability and economic growth. Her increasingly authoritarian rule at last caused her exit.
I agree. If only her rule was balanced but she favored India too much. I don’t blame her since India helped her be in power.
@@iamarh She maintained good relation with India because she was smart, China can't do it for Bangladesh , What India can do because of proximity.
@@ishankanwar8411 Proximity does not help at all. Instead it worries us. China is more developed than India. And dare I say more friendlier. Because of its proximity it was more dangerous for Bangladesh.
True , her authoritarian rule was an issue but more issues were the results of her authoritarian rules i.e. corruptions and oppressions by her party members who thinks the whole country is their personal property
Bangladesh china ties will be stronger than before
Bangladesh needs china more than china needs Bangladesh
Better relationship with china, i dont think usa will need saint martin island becaee the island is not liveable and relation with china must be strong
I am sure with Chinese influence Bangladesh will come out of the radical, wahabi stranglehold that India wasn't able to do owing to it's soft democratic approach. The Chinese tried in Balochistan to turn it into another Xijiang but failed. But Bangladeshis which are a divided lot will surely cave in. I wish the Chinese are able to accomplish what the Indians couldn't. Commerce n stability should take over radicalism n i suppose the Chinese with their strong approach will be able to.
@@sujoydutta1425Freedom is just a farce, Bangladesh with only 18-20 billion dollar reserve, textile industry is gone and about 500 Chinese company has already left Bangladesh.
I don't think Bangladesh have the privilege to choose.
Icing on the top is UAE, Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern countries are deporting and arresting Bangladeshi national's.
@@sujoydutta1425you are very optimistic about it.
Bangladesh needs to build stronger ties with democracies like Taiwan. China is not a country Bangladesh wishes to become like.
Bangladesh needs infrastructure investment and technology. China has supported Bangladesh by investing in infrastructure development projects, but not Taiwan.
@@elbarca223 Taiwan would if China allowed it.
We honestly have to have good ties with both county
@@dannyichijou1588 Say that to China.
@@markinboyChina is our ally so far we will work with them. We dont need external suggestions.
I love Chinese people.... please help me New gorvment from China gorvment...
i don't think China will be out. They always respected the people of Bangladesh and their interests. Bangladesh have the mutual respect for China. Even though it was supposed to be India, since they helped Bangladesh during 1971 to freedom but past 53 years was more about one side interest. Bangladesh is probably the only country ,has been showing gratitude towards India for fifty three years because of the help during 1971 by letting them making money out of Bangladesh.
Hasina is not a good leader.
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great discussion!
The point about "ext-remist [slamic" influence was accurate to an extent. Their have never been any extremism in Bangladesh in terms of religion, it was mostly a scapegoat used by hasina regime. That is gone now and you'll see everyone, and all religions, uniting in Bangladesh right after she's gone. Despite the divisions she tried to create, Bangladeshi people saw right through it.
BD people don't want enmity with minorities as life is hard enough as is why make it harder.
But democracy seems to me makes division with various vote groups . It is best to give separate vote and parties for minorities to have more protection for minorities from political parties for power grab.
we Bangladeshi ppl Very good friendship with Chinese❤
Taiwan doesn't consider themselves part of China so you can stop with your glazing here.
@@dark_mode stay with your mode and your Hasina.
@@dark_modewe know...but i think he Doesn't knows the fact
Go to china with your wife.
@@sunilkar01stop lying
From Bangladesh. Accurate analysis by the respected guests.
excellent way 👏 to put it. I am a Bangladeshi.
both of the guests are very well read and knowledgeable. And By THE ALMIGHTYs will, Younus will lead our country in a better place.
A man speaks from his knowledge and wisdom. --- Hi, Roger Liu, do you know LaGuardia Airport extended over water due to short of land. Same way Coxbazar Airport runway extended on the sea water. Do you know China has built artificial islands on reefs in the South China Sea. These ilands form a triangular defense position against US base in the Philippines. Lot of other example are there. Question : Are you giving the correct information to the viewers on St Martin's islan of Bangladesh? I know your are from Taiwan. - 75 years old retired Engineer from NASA, USA. Was involved in 1971 liberation war of Bangladesh.
Only China and Isreal knows how treat Muslims. India's soft corner always back fires. Go ahead Bangla and India is waiting to see your progress.
Muslims in China are doing better than Muslims in India. Maybe watch and read more, apart from western propaganda if you can't afford to visit.
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@@csnoor12 Abe kaay ka bot. I am telling you the reality.
100%. Never trust backwards people who have no honour. Indians still remember Russia. That’s our culture. Bangladeshis are showing their culture now
Is Taiwan's plan to import 100,000 Indian workers still on track? Tens of millions of young Indians are still jobless, and they desperately need to work.
Bangladesh peoples all countries to makes friendship.we are don’t like any particular party only friendships.
There are two non factual statements regarding Saint Martin Island and Afghanistan political chaos in the last 12 months. In regards to Saint Martin, Dr. Yunus did sign an agreement in 2008 with the US to handover to the US for 40 years and will renew. There are three main reasons this protest took place in Bangladesh then it completely changed after 300 deaths. More agenda added from foreign influence to resign Sheikh Hasina.
The conversation was quite detailed. In Bangladesh, there is a widespread preference against a pro-India government. One of the reasons for Hasina's downfall was her stance favoring India. As a Bangladeshi, I can confirm that many people in Bangladesh dislike Indian policies regarding Bangladesh.Hasina was not only autocratic but also insanely corrupt reportedly leveraging Indian influence to maintain her position in the government.
You have to recognize that during Hasina regime massive development s in Bangladesh occured working hand in hand with both India and China. This ouster is more a conspiracy rather than true upheaval.
It was a eye washed development, took 18 lakhs crores BDT loan, spent 10% and looted 90% from it. That what Hasina played with Bangladeshi people.
Nice discussion from China perspective, however, it seems very evident that both these gentlemen are not aware of the finer things that are happening in Bangladesh (and also the region)... Thanks to its flawed neighbour policies, India is being shown the door by Nepal, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, and recently Maldives. Bangladesh was the last stronghold where they had a submissive govt (extremely authoritarian on its own people) who they nakedly helped to cling on to power illegitimately for over 15 years. However, as that govt. Has fallen suddenly, India is in now in a state of shock and are terrified.
In my opinion, it is unlikely that USA will join hands with India at least in near future to keep Bangladesh on its side. Rather USA will take the matter in their own hands alienating India, as India's capability to deal its neighbours is clearly questionable. Also the fact that Dr. Younus having a great relationship with USA will facilitate that process.
So India is facing a pretty much deep crisis in maintaining control over Bangladesh market (politically and economically), at least in the short run, especially until it stops providing shelter to the ousted ex-PM Sheikh Hasina in Indian soil and actively keeping support on destabilizing Bangladesh to make things difficult for the new govt.
This isn't Chinese perspective. Taiwan isn't China. They are more aking to Pakistan. A high-tech Chinese version of Pakistan.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 agreed. Thanks for the clarification.
As Bangladeshi, I agree with your take.
India supporting to create a democratic society in BD, will make the BD people not hate India anymore.
People in BD are forgetful and generous like that. That's why you see no enmity toward Pakistan in BD now which is much shock to Indians who hate Pakistan unnecessarily much .
@@sunset2.00 People of Bangladesh aren't forgetful. People's collective psyche usually fades in ~20 years, unless kept fresh via some means. This is why most people who didn't live thorugh '71 talks about reconcillation with Pakistan and how good Jamat a Islami is. This is why people who didn't live through 2001-06 Jamat-BNP's rule won't remember how horrific those days were. Likewise, people from 20 yrs from now will also forget how corrupt and criminal Sheish Hasina's regime became after ~2014.
It's not about Bangladesh, happens everywhere. See, in Europe they did forget horror of nazis and neo-nazism and other form of racism is steeply on the rise.
@@sunset2.00 As for democracy, India is no one to establish Democracy here. It's the problem of our parties that they are at each other's throat. Is there any other nation where one party leader tries to kill the leaders of other party? Funny, both AL and BNP equally serves India. Did u forget BNP's agreement to sell our gas to India?
As for Pakistan, u guys got it all wrong. Read what Ballv Vi Patel said in 1947. It's India's policy to keep their neighbors failed and dependent on India. Pakistan is their 'dream neighbor'. We're not so much.
Hassina she ignored the Bangladeshi people long time ago. That's the reason her own government turned the tables. Very simple
A very open and clear analysis. But one important issue is Tista barrage, where China wants to deploy a military base near the chicken neck of India.
Where did u hear China wanted Military around Tista? 🤣 its a technical project. Nt a military one.
Bangladeshis are willing to establish strong relationships with Chaina more than India.
as a Bangladeshi this is most realistic analysis I've seen of the situation (unlike godi media)
Both experts, especially Mumin Chen, are very knowledgeable on the topic contray to what we have seen from the Indian experts. Btw, you missed one important point that is the rise of anti-Indian politics. There has been a devastating flood in the last few days (right after the ousting of Hasina) and the flood was widely circulated as India's doing (we share 54 rivers with India). There are lot of anti-Indian comments on social media. Anti-Indian rhetoric will likely play an important role in the upcoming events.
India always used Bangladrsh for their own benefits. They never shoot civilians with any boarder country but Bangladesh, open all the damn when we are growing crops and destroy it through flood...... There are so many things India did and still doing unjust with Bangladeshi.
Who helped liberate Bangladesh from genocidal Pakistan, india or china? In 1971 war of Bangladesh, china supported pakistan.
Only India and Soviet Union stand with liberation of Bangladesh. While the whole Arab, China, USA supported Pakistani genocide im Bangladesh. Even Saudi Arabia and China did not recognise new Bangladesh untill USA killed founder of Bangladesh (Bongabondhu Shekh Majibur Rahman) in 1975.
I am from Bangladesh, not involve in Politics, do not like dictator as Hasina. From my neutral point of observation, USA is promoting Islamic fundamentalism in Bangladesh as like what USA did with Taleban project in Pakistan and Afganistan.
The two young students upodesta of current interim government of Bangladesh (Dr. Yunus), they are USA products of extremists group Hijbut Tahrir. Even USA project is trying eliminate Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) from Bangladesh politics since they have better tie with China. Only Jamate Islami ( who were against Bangladesh liberation) and Hijbut Tahrir will sustain if USA project get implemented.
Why did Bangladesh need another liberation in 2024? Young population didn't see 1971, they saw 2024 and events that led to 2024.
India was hiding the hole until it was 3 December. Know the real history kid
That was your leader issues, india has got nothing to do with it, india will support it's interest, simple as that.@@nagorik24
We liberated ourselves!
Prof Yunus is really popular in India. Many of schemes are implemented even in India. India will always stand with Bangladesh irrespective of leaders or political party. ❤💚+🧡🤍💚
Hasina was an Indian puppet, and now we are free from the Indian colony. We Bangladeshis love Chinese people, and there might be a great chance to improve the relationship between China and Bangladesh.
1. If it's not a Usa scape goat, then Why don't the us sanction like it Myanmar.
2. Is it china vs usa war economy and geo politics, that Bangladesh is this situation. FYI from last 10 yrs china is far from Bangladesh.
3. India is all side border with Bangladesh.
4. Afghanistan is left with Taliban by whom? Bangladesh given to Yunus, Wr he is he comes from. Have some little background.
5. What is happening the minorities in Bangladesh from Islamic extremists especially Hindus, Christians, Buddhists etc.
6. How come Bangladesh and Pakistan is different from each other. Both are Islamic countries. China is very good in contact with Islamic countries. But Taiwan is far from Geo-politics.
7. Why BRI is failed? Bcz china is only on debt trap diplomacy.
8. Will Taiwan invest in Bangladesh?
9. Why India as to closer to usa in indian Ocean? Why not India Russia, India middle east, India South East Asia, India Japan, India Korea, India India.
10. Stop praising usa, and focus on ur own country Taiwan. Or else you will be an sandwiched between china and usa.
1.Because the students helped guard the minorities establishments unlike Myanmar military ethnic cleansing the rohyngyas.
2. China wants to isolate India by allying with all of India's neighbors while India doing a bad job of forming good relationships with their people and gov.
Indians are also to blame for showing too much hate towards it's neighborhood people not just the gov.
Bangladesh became a battlefield for the three major players. Ultimately someone will win and someone will lose but BD will lose and suffer for a long time. The deer is dear to the lion, tiger, and fox. The fact is BD is a better food for everyone but it may cause indigestion if any party eats too much of it. So, be careful how much you eat. The former PM ate too much which caused indigestion. So, it will be for everyone. Please love the people of this land then we will serve you.
Bangladesh is passing its worst time. Sheikh Hasina is the best leader for Bangladesh
As a Bangladeshi, I see many people (about 80%) in social media rejecting india after the recent flood situation. So it's time for china to maintain a good relationship with Bangladesh, otherwise the west will get it. It'll be a interesting show to watch for next few years. But India can't get hold of Bangladesh anymore. Right now they are the most hated country in Bangladesh followed by Israel.
Sri Lanka 2.0 on its way
I'm from Bangladesh 🇧🇩✋. I'm a Student, and a protestor. We create a history by the hemorrhagic movement.✊
You will soon realise the haemorrhoids you are sitting on the hard way 😂😂😂
@@AjitKumar-lo9yu😂😂bhai Gazab
@@SonuTanti-xf5lq 🤣🤣🤣
I am from Bangladesh, and I have worked with 2 Chinese companies. Shek Hasina has never been a liar, She has tried to balance economies and politics. but she has few mistakes she has given more opportunities to the Islamic group. it's her biggest mistake and a few of her business entrepreneurs take lots of benefits from her government time. It was her big mistake. otherwise, she is good for Bangladesh. I can say lots of things but I would not say them because when Bangladeshi people can not speak the truth now because at present students kill people by beating or gunshooting.
What Abt the money laundering, what about her killing students, what about her torturing cell, what ABOUT the dept she left the country w. Tell me
Very balaned and enjoyable discussion indeed!
Bangladesh's revolution is based on a merit based system like china. We fought an autocratic oligarchy state to implement meritocracy in our country
Seikh Hasina pulled the impoverished BD out of poverty and transferred it to mid income economy. The problem is most humans have short memory and are illiterate/ungrateful. So any good work done by someone gets immediately washed out if one mistake done by the person/leader. Here the mistake was economy. Since Seikh Hasina's equation with US soured very much , US did not support the garment manufacturing industries any more and similarly other economic issues. And if US doesn't, west will also not. As you hear in the show clearly Prof Chen mentiond , China's interets in BD is its own economy. So it will not care about BD's overall wellbeing/economy.
But the oppression and degradation of the democracy in BD outweigh the good that she did. The people would have supported her if she didn't vote froud like the last 2 elections. Amd her political members being so corrupt.
Whatever India or US wants, the Bangladeshi public has deep affection from China. Whoever runs the country or gets elected they’ll have to keep that in mind.
As Bangladeshi we need strong correlation with China
Sri Lanka 2.0 on its way
I invite Taiwan to build or invest in Bangladesh. Help Bangladesh in semiconductor and Electronics industry. The business market is wide open now with the new interim government with no such backlogs or boundaries.
and why would they do that ?
I am from bangladesh watching this show & like the way you described current & future situation about my country. Thank you
Bangladesh is an tiny country in terms of size, but a massive country in terms of population
India, China,Russia out of Bangladesh 😢
USA in Bangladesh 🤢
USA 144mp= Democracy.
USA 1080mp= Hypocrisy 😅
good show and anlysis
It’s not only blame, it’s true that usa is the played main role behind the scenes, you guys from Taiwan doesn’t know , because usa is your friendly country,
We Bangladeshi want China beside ourselves... Hope to see us together. 🇧🇩
Why do you enter India better go to China backdoor entry will face the consequnenes
India never supports Bangladesh's friendship with China, but we Bangladeshis always want China's support
Hasina was the greatest ruler in this country. Took GDP from 0.5 billion to 46 billions!
Sad, Bangladeshis are ungrateful to leader who transformed the country from basket case to a developing economy. Future is dark for Bangladesh. Younus has no mandate and military will take over ultimately. Failure of democracy in another muslim majority state
@@rameshbalasubramanian3644 there is no democracy. Do your homework: Younis is an American banker, he's been groomed by Americans to be their puppet in the region. This was not a case of people overthrowing Hasina, the USA are behind the overthrowing and now have their man in.
Im Bangladeshi living in uk 🇬🇧 im so proud 👏 of young students Successful
Bangladesh is fundamentally a secular, progressive, and historically china friendly country and we look forward to building a stronger relationship with China
Secular and progress under Islamic principles as BD people don't interfere with minorities religion and festivals and made them national holidays and public schools teach minorities religion to minorities.
It's a different version of secularism. More like freedom of religion than religion from state.
Progressivism is still limited by conservative traditions of all religions particularly Islam.
Women have right of property, education and work which is not unrestricted. Muslims have their own restrictions and hindhus their own. Males also have restrictions like they can't do fornication or dating culture progressive rights.
It's different from western and much closer to Malaysia in terms of secularism and progressivism.
So secular that you erase Hindus 😂
World needs to learn from Israel how to deal with these Islamic terrors
Bangladesh is a country where people from all religion live peacefully. India is a land of hindu extrimists where minority muslim lives are in danger.
@@bubblesmixer really? Didn't UN condemn the attacks against Hindus in Bangladesh? Didn't bangladesh Hindus protest against such issues?
@bubblesmixer how many Muslims came to bangladesh from India because of torture since 1947? Compare that with nonbelievers left bangladesh because of Islamic love! Without lies, islam dies.
@@ashhash8973where was attacks? 😅😅,,,do you follow godi medi of india?😅😅
@@ashhash8973Where was attacks? 😅😅
Do you follow your godi media? 😅😅
These professors took a very narrow view of how the island could be used, and immediately dismissed the US-influence angle. You don't need a large island to build a military base. People usually think of the movie-like bases, but there are several really small bases on islands all over world. The way I see it, the US would have used this island as a launching pad for quick and frequent arms supplies to certain select groups in Myanmar.
We Bangladesh welcome our Chinese allies.
Taiwan isn't China. What's Taiwan for China is Pakistan for India.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 who cares about pajxeexts?
@@mycappibarafunneh The whole South Asia is called pajxeet 😂. You're calling yourself that too.
@@_Scarlett.tNo lol,only India is called that due to them being more online.😉
Thank you to all for this excellently informative talk! Perhaps it's me, but so far I have not found any other Western media that gave such an in-depth insight into especially of the PRC in relation to Bangladesh. Next I will check out further talks on "Taiwan Talks" about the South East Asian Sea & the Philippines.
Also: It is very impressive that both experts speak English to such a high level that they can bring in their high expertise in this discussion, especially since the Taiwanese government is so active to help this language in the country for good international communications. This is not at all self-evident around the world of Academia!
St. Martin Island is only 5km long, and 1.5km wide on the widest part, the narrowest section is only 100m wide which is in the middle of the island. An airbase? Lol, you can't even build a functional runway there. Also it's not an "island" per se, it's a coral atoll. Around 3 miles off the surrounding area is extremely shallow, too shallow even for mid-size ships to navigate. A naval base might be possible but they need to do land reclamation like how China is doing in the South China sea. But still it's going to be expensive and will just turn into a money pit without achieving any tangible military goal. Because it's located in a very cyclone prone area in the Bay of Bengal and many parts of the island get flooded twice every year. Only 13km away from Bangladesh and 8km away from Myanmar, therefore quite vulnerable in terms of land based attacks. If US really wants to build an air (or naval?) base in Bangladesh, a much better option would be somewhere near the coast of Dakshinpara area in Teknaf. But St. Martin? Doesn't make sense.
- Disagree with Professor Liu's (Casual dress) view that St. Martin is scape goat for Hashina. It is not, Hashina also made another very related statement around 1-2 month before her ousting - that US is conspiring to create a Christian country in South east Asia.
- China interest in Bangladesh has multiple reason. Trade could be primary but military angle could not be ignored.
- Agree with Professor Chen (Formal dress), having China influence in Bangladesh could develop better security of China's energy supply through 2-3 narrow straits.
- Another Major reason is to have more security to the "Kyaukphyu Port" in Myanmar that will eventually make land road linkup to China.
Henry Kissinger once say, "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
I am from Bangladesh! Terrible experts with no knowledge about geopolitics or geography! St Martin Island’s area is about 90 sq km. also note - There are two parties - one is more left-centre is Hasina’s party more friendly to India, China and Russia but other party is BNP - clearly pro American!
Bangladesh is gone.who is with me?
This is an accurate commentary on the events that took place in Bangladesh!
Hasina is a dictator
180m is a understatement ...population is 200m (including its temporary migrants who are living abroad for now but are based in Bangladesh beyond retirement)
China is our largest Trading Partner. We will never become hostile to Chinese investment.
Mumin Chen was exactly right about Islamist party in Bangladesh. Jamaat Islami leaders are always attending the US Embassy parties in Dhaka and if they were such a radical party would they be invited regularly by the US embassy?
You forgot how USA funded jihadis in Afghanistan??
Constructive analysis and fair conversation. Indian media has a lot to learn and improve.
Sir with Black coat is very much intelligent. He is right that Islamic groups in Bangladesh are modernised enough. Which is very much true. Jamat has 42% female political members.
Yeah. So modernized that the first thing they did was to - Attack Mandirs, Majars, and destroy historical statue in Mymensing, Destroy Father of nation's statues. Taiwan is a US puppet, nothing but a high-tech Pakistan.
She was the best leader in story of Bangladesh , she change country economy so far ahead, also she shelter thousand thousand of refugees, she was given houses and land for farming to the poor people, so people don’t have to be stay on the street anymore, she was against religious terrorist, but like any other country not everyone destiny can be changed by just Prime Minister, some people are blaming her to them own failure, starting to burning properties, killing people, destroy the country, etc also student are burning the policeman political leaders family, including small children’s they also killed political leaders and hanging on the road, students are burned her father house were being killed her inter family members , on her family death anniversary students are beating people whom try to show their respect, she tried to save the country for nobody die anymore, this is why she left, she was there for Bangladesh and she left also for Bangladeshi people to not killing each other for her name
Iraqi brainwashed youths also did the same with sudden, today they are all crying for him......just wait day is not far Bangladeshi youth will face the reality what blunder they did
@@redarmy353 shut up
SK Hasina was diamond for Bangladesh ❤️
agreed. She pulled the impoverished BD out and transferred it mid income economy. The problem is people have short memory and are illiterate ans so any good work done by someone gets immediately washed out if one mistake done by the person/leader. Here the mistake was economy. Since Seiko Hasina's equation with US soured very much , US did not support the garment manufacturing industries any more.
make her indian pm then😅😅
Buchar of Bangladesh
Koi thakos tui shalar put..??
Time for Taiwan to be cautious of Bangladesh too .
I'm from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Bangladeshi young people love Chinese Cinema.
No they love Indian cinema only 😅
@@Abbas_abbuBangladesh has boycott india and indian entertainments as well.
@@bubblesmixertry turkey then they are you ummah brothers
@@bubblesmixerdid they try stopping Indian cotton?
Your statement about Jamaat-e Islam is so positive and it’s the reality. They are not so dangerous like ISI that westerns are Publishing more than a decade.
Jamat is not at all an Islamic extremist organisation. They have a moderate ideology. But both India and Hasina tried to show a villain/monster named "Jamat" exists in Bangladesh so that they can exploit international community in their favour.
From geopolitical perspective Jamat will always play a balanced role.
If International community can have relation with Taliban in Afghanistan then why not with much more moderate Jamat in BD?
Fun fact is since 1988 to 2007 jamaat was BALs biggest allies xD
@@aliashfaque1746 What's your point?
@@aliashfaque1746 it's a good thing under my book. They are flexible, not rigid fundamentalists.
Sri Lanka actually controls the balance of power in the Indian Ocean. By making a strong commitment as a neutral country, they are making a great contribution to maintaining peace in the Indian Ocean.
Very balanced and realistic discussion.
Although the presenters have ruled out the influence of US in the coup, it cannot be denied with the appointment of Younus for a care taker govt. The tussle between US and China will surface soon with Bangladesh sandwiched between them.
Jamat Islami isn’t an extremist but a purely political party. Hasina used the "extremist" term to suppress Jamat & BNP.
Yeah sharia is such a democratic concept lol