No fuel given. No fuks given. 8 months full NC GOSO the right way. Thank you HG. I can see how far I've come from my older comments based on emotional thinking to now, - using logic.
I was married to a narcissist for 22 years during our mediation of our divorce decree the mediator looked at me and said you’re going to have to deal with him forever because you have children together, I looked at her and said my children are grown I don’t ever have to have anything to do with him ever again nor do I want to.
Your wrong Donna..what ever affects your children affects you..illiness marriage..birth..accident or death ..your still tied to them and your ex..unless he/she dies
My narcissist sent me a happy new year message. This time I deleted the text... even though I had blocked him on social media.. I don’t understand how he still managed to get through... I’m proud of myself for not falling for that trap. Thanks for the advice.
Well done. My ex who I've not spoken to in over 20 years asked my son for my number so he could text me happy birthday. My son didn't give him my number at my request
Yeah they can find ways to get through even whwn blocked. These cross App rhings is how mine tried to contact me prolly to threaten me after his current supply found out about me through fb then contacted me. Lol. Narcs are so incredibly sneaky.
The guy is making money out of this, selling books, courses and coaching. As long as whatever he is selling is worth the money it costs then you can't blame the guy for doing it
I think narcs are running out of empaths due to social changes. There have always been narcs and empaths within balance. As the level of true narcs increase and true empaths decrease it causes a power/fuel shortage. It is my take on these videos that HG Tudor does not care about empaths, that since he is an ultra he can for see that it will not be sustainable to remain out of balance. I liken an empath to an apple tree. When time to bear fruit the narc can harvest and return as needed. However if the tree is neglected and dies ( the actual death of us empaths/trees) there will be no more fruit to be had for future harvest. This balance is not that of yin and yang that exists. The narc truly does not feel empathy, not one bit. But for the empath who feasts on all emotions within our wide spectrum both positive and negative we will continue to thrive. New age want's us to believe to be completely passive and loving and give up our narc emotions. Empaths will not become narcs for putting up boundaries. But we need to feel all of our emotions. Empaths, stop being "vegan empaths", eat every emotion within reason, digest them and you will be nourished and resilient. (Just an opinion)
My 35 year old son just announced his engagement so.....unless my ex dies before the wedding, I will have to be in the same vicinity as him. We have had zero contact for about 12 years. My plan is to maintain my inner peace no matter what.
Narcissists are quick to judge others because of their lack of sensitivity. They can only look how things seem to be and have no clue of the nature of the things. That´s the reason for conflicts. They don´t know who you are they only know what makes you angry and interpret it.
This can prove to be useful when required. When I have unexpectedly seen a previous narc in my vicinity I do not say anything. I walk past and pretend I didn't see them.
He contacted me again after a few years. I knew he would return. I was looking for ways to get rid of him. He talked and talked, looking for fuel. Couldn't think of anything else so I said " hey, btw, you DO know I cheated on you while we were together. Right ?". And I was blocked 😂 The end.
I have saved this to watch over and over. Because I live next door to one. He regularly trespasses in my yard and caused a scene the other day when I had gardeners planting shrubs he didn't like. I told him to get off my property and screaming, name-calling and threats from him followed. I just ordered some headphones to work in the yard. I hope it works. I will also walk to another part of my property. I needed this advice!
TRUTH My Love. People, all of you tired of the luminating, simply existing in the gathering gloom . Listen to this man. Carefully, and often. Love Thank You❤ * JOY *
Just cut off two narcs who went into a rage because I wouldn't answer a call from them when I was busy and they demanded it. Iy was quite funny when I refused to comply. Both went mental - narcissistic rage and blocled me. Fabulous! One was my sister and three months later her daughter behaved in exactly the same way!
This was so helpful, thanks HG. I have a midrange narcissist colleague who calls me constantly for long chats. From now on I’ll terminate the “chats” and limit the correspondence to email only. #zerofuel
"Ambush"...my narcissist neighbor has, literally, jumped out from behind a tree on a shared fenceline while I was out checking fences. Scared me badly. I recovered quickly, and just turned and walked away down my field. She has ambushed me at the road, too, trapping me in my driveway by parking her truck across it. I drove over the lawn (I put my Jeep in 4Wd) and left, and then she followed me 30 miles to town. So I drove to the town's police dept. She disappeared. Those were two of many times I've been ambushed. It's so weird. Like, really weird.
We are being targeted by evil entities. They use gangstalking, touchless torture, psychotronic and electromagnetic weapons, street theater, mobbing, gaslighting, noise campaigns, mimicry, brighting, cybertorture, surveillance, and more against us.
Thank you for this. I have cut off contact with my family narcs, and live far away. The only time I thought that I might run into them would be at important family events like weddings and funerals. This will help me to navigate those situations if/when they also attend.
A few years ago I cut off communication with a possibly basement-tier narc. Early conversations consisted of making himself a victim of his "despicable" ex-wife, showering me with compliments, picking at my fashion choices, and asking inappropriately personal questions. Within 3 days I cut him lose and he wrote a 1000+ words raging against me using the scant information I did give him about myself and drowning himself in self-pity. My instinct was to apologize and to encourage him that he would find love but that only inspired him to write another thesis paper about my inadequacy and his hopeless life. BLOCKED!!!
"Salami slicing"....Lol...so blunt and cold...just an inanimate object to be used for personal benefit and carelessly discarded...once again H.G. tells it like it truly is in the mind of the narcissist...empaths need to stop trying to understand what makes these monsters tick and detach themselves emotionally...stay logical
Such extremely articulate and clear exposition is a great pleasure to listen to. I guess here is a little fuel for you. This is fascinating. Thanks for doing this.
I love that song. I think it not only applies to people in toxic "romantic" relationships with others, it applies to those of us who are not in those relationships as well.
Sky Lark I absolutely love that song! It's from my era and might've helped me leave my controlling narcissistic exes. I intend to not get involved at all from now on, which is easier now that I'm older, as most men aren't interested anyway. 😄
I love your articles. They are thoroughly useful. I listen to each one 2-3 times. I bought several of your books a few years ago. I have _Fuel_ ready to read. Thank you for offering your well informed and to-the-point recommendations.
Thank you HG. 🙏🏼 this is what I have been looking for. This is fantastic. I have to see my uncle weekly and grampy every day, it’s just the way it is for now while we’re in lockdown. My uncle has realised I have distanced myself and he sent me some abusive text messages (rather stupid I thought as it’s evidence against him) I didn’t respond, refused to answer the phone. He called and called and the messages got ruder. He told me when my grandfather dies he never has to see me again. Felt like saying ditto 😅 but I did not, I’m not that stupid and think sometimes narcissism makes him stupid. So anyway, now he comes here weekly (he’s a false empath or something like that, very involved with the church 🙄 he comes to see my grandfather who is a doctor and highly regarded in the church community (going to vomit) anyway, I’ve felt bad leaving my mum to handle these weekly dinners but she has been kind enough to let me have the space from this pig for a few weeks. I go downstairs as soon as he’s gone to wash up and help where I can but I do feel it’s still unfair that I’m not hanging around and I help less with my narcissist grandfather who needs attention and my mum and I take turns working/studying to switch and help out with him. He’s 97 but fully verbal and physically able. Like a machine. Anyhoo.. So I have no choice. But I love your stuff about the neutral voice and gestures, because I gesticulate haha so it will be different for me not to. And no fun stories etc. Minimal engagement. No how are you. Brilliant. This is good. Thanks for the tips. On this note, I say goodnight (I’ve been binging this all day) You just have no idea how much you have helped me. I look forward to continuing to learn more. Thank you 😊
Just brilliant HG i seen him and just looked right through him and walked off he started calling me i just acted like that wasn't my name and i will continue to block even number he calls me from i will not change my number he knows who to contact if he wants to see the children i will bring them there i don't talk with you
They don’t like it when you call them, ugly. I met a player who was devastated by that. He had borderline, narcissism and psychopathy he was Satan, in the flesh. His victims got even with him by calling him ugly. Indeed he was ugly, on the inside, but because of his narcissism, he took it to mean his outside appearance which he banked on to get women, lol! But you know, evil people look ugly anyways; once you know that they are evil.
I learnt the hard way never to give in to any hoovers, including demands. I just ghost, block and go no contact now, as per your advice. Stupidly, I gave in to an extortion demand once and was then immediately asked for more money- which I refused. Was blackmailed both emotionally and with withholding legal documents. The hoover worked as I was made to feel guilty and feel fear. Always ignore these types of messages or requests.
HG.. you may be a narcissistic psychopath.. but, you may be the only narcissistic psychopath that I know that I love.. Thanks for helping us.. I wish you a happy life and healthy life.. And May God show you and us the right path always..
THIS VIDEO ALONE.... Hands. Down could very well serve you as the fist video To beging your journey To forever stregthen your mind, body and soul. You will become the most galvinized form of yourself... Win win.. ❤ *JOY * TRUTH My love. PEOPLE LISTEN . If you are new to dyer need to find out whats happening to you. LISTÉN To this man carefully and often. * JOY *
If you troll around internet listening to various false / Positive individuals you run the risk of remaining in your paralized distant Fog for the remainder if your years. Truder is if I may? Truth , Straight to your Brain . thus. You will be back to youself in less time. Something I know everyone of you are so needing....❤
I have a baby w a monster.he decided to get a new gf and up the abuse literally right after he was born.I know even insults are fuel,but it's so damn hard w the level of hate I have.Baby or not I'm doing no contact,he clearly doesn't care about this child,or his other 6.I wish I had seen what was right in front of me
H.G. you are absolutely amazing thank you so much for caring enough to educate me/people. I listen to your videos all the time, and sometimes over and over again your videos are very helpful. 👌🏽
You probably just have some narcissistic traits rather than being a full on hard-core narcissist. That is because the pure version has no insight. And isn’t interested in having any either. To the true narcissist the victim is the perpetrator.
I have the major anxiety of having to run into the malignant narcissist ex and his family at my daughters wedding and other upcoming family events I’ve strictly gone no contact for awhile And now have this to worry about looming ahead Which is ruining my concentrating on the excitement and joy of the events
I see you have a lot less views and subscribers than other experts in this field But I think you really get the advice across brilliantly But in a kind of painful raw way
People tend to go to places where they will hear what they want to hear. What will make their emotional thinking feel more secure with warmth and wrong advice. HG is real. He says it as it is! The best source of information. What people fail to realize is that some channels are lead by narcissists themselves. Stay here and you will learn and recognize them! Don't get numbers fool you. HG IS THE BEST! He save my life!
I went no contact with my former married coworker who insisted on wearing me down to having an affair with him. I completely just stopped talking to him once he resigned. And to think we were supposedly once friends. I basically believe that I really had no idea who this person really was for the 7 years in which we knew each other....
I dd not provide ONE reaction over the coarse of five years, Im talking stone face. He went ballistic and stepped up his abuse until I nerly lost my life. Cut ALL contact with these, they are insane.
Co parenting is the hardest, but I learned its best only to respond when its about our son. The ex will be getting his license back soon and I worry about that a lot.
Girl, I hear you. My daughter's father is working on getting his license back, too. He will have to have a breathalyzer for one year, but not after that. I know he will drive drunk afterwards. He just can't help himself. I am going for full custody but I am scared to death that even with his criminal record and abusive of me that he might get some kind of shared custody. Don't think he will get anything but supervised, but you never know. Having a child with a narc is a nightmare. I wish he would just disappear.
I tried for years to co parent with my ex husband for years. I had no idea I was in a relationship with narcissist I just got tried of the inconsistency and I got out six years ago. I've blocked and unblocked him off and on recently I realized what I was really dealing with, jumped down the rabbithole and now I have went no contact for months I no longer care about him having a relationship with our children if he really wants visitation he can go file in court but he won't so I'm good. I keep open communication with my children I've been sharing all I've been learning about narcissism because I don't want them going through this abuse in the future it's bad enough they have been with no choice because of my decision to continue to stay. The last time he did show up and spend time at the park he was on his phone and they said they didn't feel connected to him. I don't feel bad one bit in my decision to keep him away from them. If there's no court order I would keep children away from these toxic people.
Communicating through writing is also great because you have time to garner your thoughts, figure out the bullsh*t-word-salad-poison they've just dumped onto you and respond to them in a much more detached and logical way, without having them bearing down on you. Added bonus is they can't interrupt you before you've got your first couple of words out (which they love to do because they knew what you were going to say anyway, and what they want to say is much more important than your stupid insights).
I co-parent through text only. I only answer the texts if they are about our daughter. Every text I ask myself if its something I really need to answer because he tries to find any reason to text. I ignore most his texts. Always have to be on guard with him because it seems theres always hidden motives behind most interactions
I'd love to go no contact,we live separately now and there's no court order yet and I'm not sure if I'm allowed to but I let him talk on the phone and video call with our kids. He started selling our kids stuff and showed it to them on cam and that triggered me,because I know my kids miss their stuff and he's not even sending a few matchbox or a plush animal but acts like he's a good father..im mad at myself for falling for this easy trap..also he's got sp many of my children's pictures and videos which is priceless to me and to get just a few I have to almost beg..how can a person like that think he's powerful? Taking advantage of someone's trust,that someone is isolated with 0 help,who's smaller,weaker,of his own kids to hurt you,smear you but stay with you? And people like that have supporters who don't get it? That's powerful? If anything,it's nasty and pure cowardice.
If he's doing anything in those video calls other than being civil and nice to the kids, end the calls. If he's showing the kids their stuff, and telling them that he's selling it, then note that, end the call, and be very clear in court that you don't allow your children to be emotionally abused or exposed to acrimony. Don't wait for the judge to tell you how to protect your kids. The photos, the toys, none of them are as important as your children's self worth, dignity etc. My girls straight up said that while they'd like their stuff back, they'd rather let their mother keep it than get sucked into her games. In fact, my 12 yr old said "Let her keep the piano, she can't play it. Let it be a reminder to her that she lives alone." I bought her a keyboard to replace it, and she's determined not to be sucked back into any games. A few months back, she made a big deal of buying new roller blades for the girls. She made sure to get child protective services in the loop on it, trying to make out that the girls were being 'denied' or 'missing out' if I didn't meet her and take the gifts. I knew the angle, cos she's been deflecting from her abuse by claiming that the girls are 'alienated' from her. Well, one of the girls came with me to meet her, the other two didn't want to. The girl that came with me made it very clear that she was there just to help me carry stuff. She was civil. She didn't raise her voice in anger. She didn't add any fuel to the drama or allow herself to become vulnerable by letting her emotions to the fore. She said no more than she had to. We don't spend our days endlessly asking why their mother is like that. Instead, the girls have been taught to value themselves, and not engage with people who don't respect them, and to react with bullies by having strong boundaries, not by falling into confusion about 'why are they so mean?'. That's not our problem to solve.
I have cut off absolutely my parent’s second child. I violated no contact twice. Once for the death of my father, from his admittance to the ICU till the day of his funeral. And once for the very near death of my mother, and her subsequent admittance to the hospital. Aside from that I will not be in a room with, nor speak to her, not even for the sake of my young nephew.
You can if you want unless there are essential things like house, money ect. But just so you know it’ll be the hardest thing maybe you ever done. It is painful enough cutting off a toxic intimate partner but family is maybe even ten times worse but DEFINITELY WORTH IT , if they are narcissists they never loved you. I am sorry to be so rough.Wish you all the best ❤ take care 🫂
Dear Ultra. I hope you read this. Some things about myself that are important to the story. I am secretly deeply religious and have a savior/martyr complex. I try to save everyone and several times I have let people to abuse me emotionally so much just because i tried to prove to be the better person that people around saw me as a saint. Friends also asked me if am a masochist because i went long periods of time with strict fasting and run marathons. This is important because obviously, I attract narcissists. The first relevant one besides my parents was my best friend for about four years. It was a bromance. We spent so much time together and I never criticized him even when he started to hurt people for fun. I encouraged him because i found it interesting to see the mind games. I became his most important source of fuel because he knew I was there to stay. He still got some fuel from other people without trying to make them stay since he had me. But. Answering a call from the Universe to retreat myself from civilization, I went no contact. Everything i heard about my best friend after that was that he was unable to fit in and to find anyone to respect him. He had to leave the town and now is not well in another country. I didnt care at that time. Now me and another narc found each other. This time I cared and got sucked in, losing my contact with reality. But as a martyr, i endured heroically everything. The mask dropped (the stare and than public humiliation) and i got a little interesting in what is happening since i was traumatized. That is why i am here. But, what is happening with the narc is that it is now losing the control, more and more people are saying me that something is off, people are even noticing that the eyes are changing. Is it possible that too much fuel can make a narcissist self destruct, like a fuel overdose that make him lose his mojo and contact with reality?
Hello, I work with a female covert narcissists supervisor, I can't just quit my job. I do what i can to not engage with her, I giver her little to no attention by ignoreing her and remain silent with her. She exploded emotionally when I ignore her and abores the silence I send her way. The silent treatment is a childish pathetic move to me. I just do the same and she can't stand it. I can't go full on no contact but often block her on texts and emails. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Oh yes, I looking for new work.
Hello H. D., I have been listening to your content for a while and a question comes to mind. Did Sigmund Freud correctly identify your class of personality types or do more modern thinkers have a better handle on you?
Thank you. I can not run away. I am co parenting two kids. I have almost no cantact, arrangements are written. I don't mind, she gets the fuel using the kids, making things nobody can believe from a mother. Getting all the parenting for myself It is no possible. Be quiet when your kids are suffering is not possible. Getting her into a Court every week is not possible and all is hard to demonstrate with small kids and more difficult if you are a man. So.... What can I do to stop suffering? There is no answer to this from my psychologist, just acceptation. I could be dead, I have sequels and I don't care about myself, just about the kids. I have been divorced now for four years.... She has a couple but I think It is never going to stop. She always try to get something, the homework, money, speak bullshit about me to teachers, kids doctors, she ambush during my parenting... What can I do? Avoid legal stuff please... Just a tip for my sanity and my kids' would be ok. Sorry for my English and thank you.
Stay strong, focus on the long game. Don't ever play the same games that she plays. My kids were with my ex until 2 years ago. When they were young, they didn't understand. Mother was always angry, always saying bad things about me, saying Dad didn't care about them, and letting them believe I knew what went on, but didn't have a problem with it. That damaged their trust. As they got older, they noticed the difference between us. I was trying to help and build people up, and didn't spend my time with them being negative or tearing anyone down. She eventually collapsed, beat the kids, disowned them, and the kids came to me. They don't even want to talk to her now. They are disgusted at how two faced she is. now she's trying to get them back cos she's in her nice house, all by herself with nobody to serve her. But the kids are old enough to tell child protective services exactly why they don't want to go back. Be a good man and a good father. Always let the kids know you are there for them. Listen to them, let them talk, and don't react too much, but remember it for later. Let them know they are good kids, and that they deserve respect, and should show it to others. Be a good example to them, by not allowing the hatred to pull you down. They need you to be like a rock that they can hold on to when the tide goes out... because someday it will go out, and they will need to cling to that rock, when the narcissist's boat starts sinking.
The ambush she took on the victim role everybody backed her up forcing me to accept her I understand it was control I had 2 choices give in or deny Her dirty little secret was standing there too watching she played the victim role perfect I declined and turned away and thus smearingcampaign started My fault I took Pity Its a workthing she is stalking me for almost 3 a 4 years Its creepy no contact people are seeing the desperation the lenght she goes for ensnarement use logic and everything falls into place No contact never react to a Hoover if they find someone willing to play their game that person no contact no feelings no remorse no fuel
I understand that some what. The sight of him makes me sick, but remembering how he treated me and my time and family . I blocked him everywhere then erased all social media.
True i snoop too my feelings won't change as far as him. Cause he talks about me but don't nobody he know knows me but what he say i know it me he is talking about. He is a D.J. and he talks thru his music too.
Hello HG I would like to ask you a question If I ever meet the person I 'used to know And I talk to (him or her) will they be Abel to know that there is no more fuel for them because there is no feelings left towards them at all has been 3 years off no contact . I know for sure I will have to meet one day sooner or later I know 100% they are one of your kind And I know this Thanks to you You are doing a great job 😊
This is a little off-topic, but can anyone tell me how to check UA-cam messages from an iPhone? I can’t seem to access my messages and they continue to pile up.
Hey my narc supervisor cooked food for our group but could not attend lunch with us to eat it. Should I have trusted her and eaten it? I lied and said it tasted great but just through it out. Any suggestions?
By undermining you, especially by thumbing their nose at you, by reversing the reasonable restrictions you usually put in place for children’s wellbeing. They force you into ‘bad cop’ position.
Many of them view the child as their mini me. The child must like what they like. If they are hot, the child is hot, if they like sports the child likes sports and on and on. The child is not treated as an individual at all with separate tastes or likes. If the child is smart they got it from them and will be reminded of that in various ways. How this works out usually depends on the age of the child. Perhaps they get fuel from the child and thinking they have control over their thinking. They will outline to the child all of your supposed faults and try to make them comrades against their shared enemy. Do not ask your child what they say about you. Don't even bring it up. . Let the child ask you questions. If the child tells you something they have said about you just laugh and say oh I don't pay attention to what he says about me. Without you directing the child to do the same-- they are STILL learning from that. Best thing to do is keep a structured consistent lifestyle for the child. Forget dating. They have enough unrest in their life with a narcissistic parent.
I wonder: I´ve established no-contact since months (in Germany) with my Narc after he`s left the house for the 8th time (as I understood you in previous films for the reason of gaining control or power over me again). Therefore I`m not quite sure whether I ended it or he did, but it was me telling him, that I don`t want to see him (or hear from him) ever again. Now I wonder: Couldn`t a Narc just feel satisfied in gaining positive fuel ONLY and cut off all his mind games, manipulations, gaslighting etc. ? Couldn`t he felt reckognized enough by just being loved? There are so many men aroun who lack feelings and tenderness but still aren`t crucial, malice or pretending to have feelings; they are pretty well in feeling that they are loved and cared for. Why can`t a Narc behave like that? Could a therapy help them to coop with those lacks?
Thanks for response My elderly father insists on having both his daughters spend Christmas together and our mother has passed Have tried to talk with him about it but he can’t see it I know I won’t ever see her again after our father dies but am conflicted about what to do in the meantime Would really appreciate further input Btw I would never have realised what she was without your video I am very grateful - have been seeing a therapist for a few years now and the penny never dropped It was the smirk that gave her away
Let's not forget neighbors who share communal spaces. Earphones (whether attached to a device or not) and sunglasses are a must.
No fuel given.
No fuks given.
8 months full NC GOSO the right way.
Thank you HG.
I can see how far I've come from my older comments based on emotional thinking to now, - using logic.
INFJ to a Narcissist: Joke's on you I've always wanted to be left alone 😂 *Door Slammed*
Literally 😂😂😂
I call it "Nothing them". Mean I literally shut off my energy towards them and anyone that has they energy around me at the time.
Total No Contact until the end of time here.
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The only way
I was married to a narcissist for 22 years during our mediation of our divorce decree the mediator looked at me and said you’re going to have to deal with him forever because you have children together, I looked at her and said my children are grown I don’t ever have to have anything to do with him ever again nor do I want to.
Your wrong Donna..what ever affects your children affects you..illiness marriage..birth..accident or death ..your still tied to them and your ex..unless he/she dies
@@mariankeller5852 nah
How naive or stubborn of you.
@@mariankeller5852prime example of emotional thinking, good one😂
My narcissist sent me a happy new year message. This time I deleted the text... even though I had blocked him on social media.. I don’t understand how he still managed to get through... I’m proud of myself for not falling for that trap. Thanks for the advice.
Well done. My ex who I've not spoken to in over 20 years asked my son for my number so he could text me happy birthday. My son didn't give him my number at my request
Well done
Yeah they can find ways to get through even whwn blocked. These cross App rhings is how mine tried to contact me prolly to threaten me after his current supply found out about me through fb then contacted me. Lol. Narcs are so incredibly sneaky.
That’s weird and I totally believe you. Do you know which kind of job he works or if he ever had access to your device? ❤
In other words, we have to ruthlessly go no contact to keep their fuel tank on empty (or as close to it as possible).
My motive for no contact is to preserve my life and heal
Wow, I've never seen a narc trying to help the empath. That's a first for me.
Narcs help empaths all the time. They’re Dr’s, lawyers, teachers, etc. plus, social media followers is the ultimate fuel, don’t you think?
The guy is making money out of this, selling books, courses and coaching. As long as whatever he is selling is worth the money it costs then you can't blame the guy for doing it
You should watch his video "why am I doing this"
I think narcs are running out of empaths due to social changes. There have always been narcs and empaths within balance. As the level of true narcs increase and true empaths decrease it causes a power/fuel shortage. It is my take on these videos that HG Tudor does not care about empaths, that since he is an ultra he can for see that it will not be sustainable to remain out of balance. I liken an empath to an apple tree. When time to bear fruit the narc can harvest and return as needed. However if the tree is neglected and dies ( the actual death of us empaths/trees) there will be no more fruit to be had for future harvest. This balance is not that of yin and yang that exists. The narc truly does not feel empathy, not one bit. But for the empath who feasts on all emotions within our wide spectrum both positive and negative we will continue to thrive. New age want's us to believe to be completely passive and loving and give up our narc emotions. Empaths will not become narcs for putting up boundaries. But we need to feel all of our emotions. Empaths, stop being "vegan empaths", eat every emotion within reason, digest them and you will be nourished and resilient. (Just an opinion)
@@ianwatson194 He gives us everything we need without cost, the purchase materials are a choice. You can hate the messenger, but the message it true.
My 35 year old son just announced his engagement so.....unless my ex dies before the wedding, I will have to be in the same vicinity as him. We have had zero contact for about 12 years. My plan is to maintain my inner peace no matter what.
Narcissists are quick to judge others because of their lack of sensitivity. They can only look how things seem to be and have no clue of the nature of the things. That´s the reason for conflicts. They don´t know who you are they only know what makes you angry and interpret it.
Facts
Absolutely correct
Wow....very perceptive
I agree
This can prove to be useful when required. When I have unexpectedly seen a previous narc in my vicinity I do not say anything. I walk past and pretend I didn't see them.
You are causing nice Narc issust injury 😆
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Same!
He contacted me again after a few years. I knew he would return.
I was looking for ways to get rid of him. He talked and talked, looking for fuel. Couldn't think of anything else so I said " hey, btw, you DO know I cheated on you while we were together. Right ?".
And I was blocked 😂 The end.
That's awesome!!! Bravo! 👍😂
Gold!!! 🙏
Years??
Years are like days to them. They view victims as appliances, you do not say to dusted book, hi how was going all those years I did not opened you ?
Hahahahha
Masterpiece
I have saved this to watch over and over. Because I live next door to one. He regularly trespasses in my yard and caused a scene the other day when I had gardeners planting shrubs he didn't like. I told him to get off my property and screaming, name-calling and threats from him followed. I just ordered some headphones to work in the yard. I hope it works. I will also walk to another part of my property. I needed this advice!
TRUTH My Love.
People, all of you tired of the luminating, simply existing in the gathering gloom . Listen to this man. Carefully, and often.
Love Thank You❤
* JOY *
Just cut off two narcs who went into a rage because I wouldn't answer a call from them when I was busy and they demanded it. Iy was quite funny when I refused to comply. Both went mental - narcissistic rage and blocled me. Fabulous! One was my sister and three months later her daughter behaved in exactly the same way!
It took me a long time to understand fuel
But after listening to this video I had my haha moment I understand. Thank you H.G👤
Glad it helped
Haha moment or ah ha moment, ir both?
This was so helpful, thanks HG. I have a midrange narcissist colleague who calls me constantly for long chats. From now on I’ll terminate the “chats” and limit the correspondence to email only. #zerofuel
Logic.
I got a FB friend request from a narc I hadn’t been in contact with for almost 30 years. Blew my mind. Of course I hit delete.
"Ambush"...my narcissist neighbor has, literally, jumped out from behind a tree on a shared fenceline while I was out checking fences. Scared me badly. I recovered quickly, and just turned and walked away down my field.
She has ambushed me at the road, too, trapping me in my driveway by parking her truck across it. I drove over the lawn (I put my Jeep in 4Wd) and left, and then she followed me 30 miles to town. So I drove to the town's police dept. She disappeared.
Those were two of many times I've been ambushed.
It's so weird. Like, really weird.
We are being targeted by evil entities. They use gangstalking, touchless torture, psychotronic and electromagnetic weapons, street theater, mobbing, gaslighting, noise campaigns, mimicry, brighting, cybertorture, surveillance, and more against us.
Stalker!
Thank you for this. I have cut off contact with my family narcs, and live far away. The only time I thought that I might run into them would be at important family events like weddings and funerals. This will help me to navigate those situations if/when they also attend.
A few years ago I cut off communication with a possibly basement-tier narc. Early conversations consisted of making himself a victim of his "despicable" ex-wife, showering me with compliments, picking at my fashion choices, and asking inappropriately personal questions. Within 3 days I cut him lose and he wrote a 1000+ words raging against me using the scant information I did give him about myself and drowning himself in self-pity. My instinct was to apologize and to encourage him that he would find love but that only inspired him to write another thesis paper about my inadequacy and his hopeless life. BLOCKED!!!
I was worried I may encounter the narcissist out there...
Thank you for explaining this, I will adopt this method of just keep walking.
Your aversions to certain “ghastly” words and phrases delight me! Very informative with some funny moments, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it.
"Salami slicing"....Lol...so blunt and cold...just an inanimate object to be used for personal benefit and carelessly discarded...once again H.G. tells it like it truly is in the mind of the narcissist...empaths need to stop trying to understand what makes these monsters tick and detach themselves emotionally...stay logical
Flick the off switch and keep it that way. (Permanent no contact.)
Excellent advice!
Such extremely articulate and clear exposition is a great pleasure to listen to. I guess here is a little fuel for you. This is fascinating. Thanks for doing this.
Leslie Gore..."You Don't Own me"...
I love that song. I think it not only applies to people in toxic "romantic" relationships with others, it applies to those of us who are not in those relationships as well.
Sky Lark I absolutely love that song! It's from my era and might've helped me leave my controlling narcissistic exes. I intend to not get involved at all from now on, which is easier now that I'm older, as most men aren't interested anyway. 😄
I love your articles. They are thoroughly useful. I listen to each one 2-3 times. I bought several of your books a few years ago. I have _Fuel_ ready to read. Thank you for offering your well informed and to-the-point recommendations.
The content in this video is so helpful. Your right there is a lot of crap advice out there but this is gold! Thank you 🌟
Thank you HG. 🙏🏼 this is what I have been looking for. This is fantastic. I have to see my uncle weekly and grampy every day, it’s just the way it is for now while we’re in lockdown. My uncle has realised I have distanced myself and he sent me some abusive text messages (rather stupid I thought as it’s evidence against him) I didn’t respond, refused to answer the phone. He called and called and the messages got ruder. He told me when my grandfather dies he never has to see me again. Felt like saying ditto 😅 but I did not, I’m not that stupid and think sometimes narcissism makes him stupid. So anyway, now he comes here weekly (he’s a false empath or something like that, very involved with the church 🙄 he comes to see my grandfather who is a doctor and highly regarded in the church community (going to vomit) anyway, I’ve felt bad leaving my mum to handle these weekly dinners but she has been kind enough to let me have the space from this pig for a few weeks. I go downstairs as soon as he’s gone to wash up and help where I can but I do feel it’s still unfair that I’m not hanging around and I help less with my narcissist grandfather who needs attention and my mum and I take turns working/studying to switch and help out with him. He’s 97 but fully verbal and physically able. Like a machine. Anyhoo.. So I have no choice. But I love your stuff about the neutral voice and gestures, because I gesticulate haha so it will be different for me not to. And no fun stories etc. Minimal engagement. No how are you. Brilliant. This is good. Thanks for the tips. On this note, I say goodnight (I’ve been binging this all day) You just have no idea how much you have helped me. I look forward to continuing to learn more. Thank you 😊
You always have a choice. Don't fall for the guilt trips.
Good for you!
Thanks HG. I pray to remember these tips if I ever bump into the narcissist .
Thank you. Listening from Alaska.
This channel is pure genius ha!ha!ha!
Just brilliant HG i seen him and just looked right through him and walked off he started calling me i just acted like that wasn't my name and i will continue to block even number he calls me from i will not change my number he knows who to contact if he wants to see the children i will bring them there i don't talk with you
Oh my goodness so true
They hate when you tell them they're not that good anymore you've had better
They don’t like it when you call them, ugly. I met a player who was devastated by that. He had borderline, narcissism and psychopathy he was Satan, in the flesh. His victims got even with him by calling him ugly. Indeed he was ugly, on the inside, but because of his narcissism, he took it to mean his outside appearance which he banked on to get women, lol! But you know, evil people look ugly anyways; once you know that they are evil.
Hands down the best video I’ve ever heard on this subject!
Even when they have made friends with my neighbours.
I learnt the hard way never to give in to any hoovers, including demands. I just ghost, block and go no contact now, as per your advice. Stupidly, I gave in to an extortion demand once and was then immediately asked for more money- which I refused. Was blackmailed both emotionally and with withholding legal documents. The hoover worked as I was made to feel guilty and feel fear. Always ignore these types of messages or requests.
HG.. you may be a narcissistic psychopath.. but, you may be the only narcissistic psychopath that I know that I love.. Thanks for helping us.. I wish you a happy life and healthy life.. And May God show you and us the right path always..
THIS VIDEO ALONE.... Hands. Down could very well serve you as the fist video To beging your journey
To forever stregthen your mind, body and soul.
You will become the most galvinized form of yourself... Win win..
❤ *JOY *
TRUTH My love.
PEOPLE
LISTEN
. If you are new to dyer need to find out whats happening to you. LISTÉN To this man carefully and often.
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If you troll around internet listening to various false / Positive individuals you run the risk of remaining in your paralized distant Fog for the remainder if your years. Truder is if I may?
Truth , Straight to your Brain . thus. You will be back to youself in less time. Something I know everyone of you are so needing....❤
Exposure is needed, spread awareness and starve the beast
Do fully agree with you on every point. Else would be strange wouldn’t it?
Thanks!
Fantastic video yet again.
Keeping hands clasped behind my back will remind me.
I have a baby w a monster.he decided to get a new gf and up the abuse literally right after he was born.I know even insults are fuel,but it's so damn hard w the level of hate I have.Baby or not I'm doing no contact,he clearly doesn't care about this child,or his other 6.I wish I had seen what was right in front of me
H.G. you are absolutely amazing thank you so much for caring enough to educate me/people. I listen to your videos all the time, and sometimes over and over again your videos are very helpful. 👌🏽
He doesn't do it bc he cares. Narcs never care about others.
All of this is fuel from adulation, fuel from the position of superiority of knowledge, plus money signs. Narc heaven.
HG, thank you for helping me understand me
You probably just have some narcissistic traits rather than being a full on hard-core narcissist. That is because the pure version has no insight. And isn’t interested in having any either. To the true narcissist the victim is the perpetrator.
I have the major anxiety of having to run into the malignant narcissist ex and his family at my daughters wedding and other upcoming family events
I’ve strictly gone no contact for awhile
And now have this to worry about looming ahead
Which is ruining my concentrating on the excitement and joy of the events
VERY helpful thank you!!
This advice has been really helpful to me...
I see you have a lot less views and subscribers than other experts in this field
But I think you really get the advice across brilliantly
But in a kind of painful raw way
People tend to go to places where they will hear what they want to hear. What will make their emotional thinking feel more secure with warmth and wrong advice. HG is real. He says it as it is! The best source of information. What people fail to realize is that some channels are lead by narcissists themselves. Stay here and you will learn and recognize them! Don't get numbers fool you. HG IS THE BEST! He save my life!
In a weird telepathic way. I’m always in a trance connecting all the dots that I never could. Gosh HG can be overwhelming
I went no contact with my former married coworker who insisted on wearing me down to having an affair with him. I completely just stopped talking to him once he resigned. And to think we were supposedly once friends. I basically believe that I really had no idea who this person really was for the 7 years in which we knew each other....
I need that boom about fuel. I'm getting it.
I dd not provide ONE reaction over the coarse of five years, Im talking stone face. He went ballistic and stepped up his abuse until I nerly lost my life. Cut ALL contact with these, they are insane.
Brilliant analysis
Co parenting is the hardest, but I learned its best only to respond when its about our son.
The ex will be getting his license back soon and I worry about that a lot.
Use this narcsite.com/how-to-co-parent-with-a-narcissist/
Girl, I hear you. My daughter's father is working on getting his license back, too. He will have to have a breathalyzer for one year, but not after that. I know he will drive drunk afterwards. He just can't help himself. I am going for full custody but I am scared to death that even with his criminal record and abusive of me that he might get some kind of shared custody. Don't think he will get anything but supervised, but you never know. Having a child with a narc is a nightmare. I wish he would just disappear.
I tried for years to co parent with my ex husband for years. I had no idea I was in a relationship with narcissist I just got tried of the inconsistency and I got out six years ago. I've blocked and unblocked him off and on recently I realized what I was really dealing with, jumped down the rabbithole and now I have went no contact for months I no longer care about him having a relationship with our children if he really wants visitation he can go file in court but he won't so I'm good. I keep open communication with my children I've been sharing all I've been learning about narcissism because I don't want them going through this abuse in the future it's bad enough they have been with no choice because of my decision to continue to stay. The last time he did show up and spend time at the park he was on his phone and they said they didn't feel connected to him. I don't feel bad one bit in my decision to keep him away from them. If there's no court order I would keep children away from these toxic people.
Communicating through writing is also great because you have time to garner your thoughts, figure out the bullsh*t-word-salad-poison they've just dumped onto you and respond to them in a much more detached and logical way, without having them bearing down on you. Added bonus is they can't interrupt you before you've got your first couple of words out (which they love to do because they knew what you were going to say anyway, and what they want to say is much more important than your stupid insights).
I co-parent through text only. I only answer the texts if they are about our daughter. Every text I ask myself if its something I really need to answer because he tries to find any reason to text. I ignore most his texts. Always have to be on guard with him because it seems theres always hidden motives behind most interactions
Well done, using your logic very well
I'd love to go no contact,we live separately now and there's no court order yet and I'm not sure if I'm allowed to but I let him talk on the phone and video call with our kids. He started selling our kids stuff and showed it to them on cam and that triggered me,because I know my kids miss their stuff and he's not even sending a few matchbox or a plush animal but acts like he's a good father..im mad at myself for falling for this easy trap..also he's got sp many of my children's pictures and videos which is priceless to me and to get just a few I have to almost beg..how can a person like that think he's powerful? Taking advantage of someone's trust,that someone is isolated with 0 help,who's smaller,weaker,of his own kids to hurt you,smear you but stay with you? And people like that have supporters who don't get it? That's powerful? If anything,it's nasty and pure cowardice.
If he's doing anything in those video calls other than being civil and nice to the kids, end the calls. If he's showing the kids their stuff, and telling them that he's selling it, then note that, end the call, and be very clear in court that you don't allow your children to be emotionally abused or exposed to acrimony. Don't wait for the judge to tell you how to protect your kids. The photos, the toys, none of them are as important as your children's self worth, dignity etc. My girls straight up said that while they'd like their stuff back, they'd rather let their mother keep it than get sucked into her games. In fact, my 12 yr old said "Let her keep the piano, she can't play it. Let it be a reminder to her that she lives alone." I bought her a keyboard to replace it, and she's determined not to be sucked back into any games.
A few months back, she made a big deal of buying new roller blades for the girls. She made sure to get child protective services in the loop on it, trying to make out that the girls were being 'denied' or 'missing out' if I didn't meet her and take the gifts. I knew the angle, cos she's been deflecting from her abuse by claiming that the girls are 'alienated' from her.
Well, one of the girls came with me to meet her, the other two didn't want to. The girl that came with me made it very clear that she was there just to help me carry stuff. She was civil. She didn't raise her voice in anger. She didn't add any fuel to the drama or allow herself to become vulnerable by letting her emotions to the fore. She said no more than she had to.
We don't spend our days endlessly asking why their mother is like that. Instead, the girls have been taught to value themselves, and not engage with people who don't respect them, and to react with bullies by having strong boundaries, not by falling into confusion about 'why are they so mean?'. That's not our problem to solve.
My exception: In-laws. Can't escape, but keep it limited to 2 visits a year generally.
That’s great can you give more examples to wound
I have cut off absolutely my parent’s second child. I violated no contact twice. Once for the death of my father, from his admittance to the ICU till the day of his funeral. And once for the very near death of my mother, and her subsequent admittance to the hospital. Aside from that I will not be in a room with, nor speak to her, not even for the sake of my young nephew.
What if they are family .....that you cannot divorce?
You can if you want unless there are essential things like house, money ect. But just so you know it’ll be the hardest thing maybe you ever done. It is painful enough cutting off a toxic intimate partner but family is maybe even ten times worse but DEFINITELY WORTH IT , if they are narcissists they never loved you. I am sorry to be so rough.Wish you all the best ❤ take care 🫂
Thanks HG
Dear Ultra. I hope you read this.
Some things about myself that are important to the story. I am secretly deeply religious and have a savior/martyr complex. I try to save everyone and several times I have let people to abuse me emotionally so much just because i tried to prove to be the better person that people around saw me as a saint. Friends also asked me if am a masochist because i went long periods of time with strict fasting and run marathons. This is important because obviously, I attract narcissists.
The first relevant one besides my parents was my best friend for about four years. It was a bromance. We spent so much time together and I never criticized him even when he started to hurt people for fun. I encouraged him because i found it interesting to see the mind games. I became his most important source of fuel because he knew I was there to stay. He still got some fuel from other people without trying to make them stay since he had me. But. Answering a call from the Universe to retreat myself from civilization, I went no contact. Everything i heard about my best friend after that was that he was unable to fit in and to find anyone to respect him. He had to leave the town and now is not well in another country. I didnt care at that time.
Now me and another narc found each other. This time I cared and got sucked in, losing my contact with reality. But as a martyr, i endured heroically everything. The mask dropped (the stare and than public humiliation) and i got a little interesting in what is happening since i was traumatized. That is why i am here. But, what is happening with the narc is that it is now losing the control, more and more people are saying me that something is off, people are even noticing that the eyes are changing.
Is it possible that too much fuel can make a narcissist self destruct, like a fuel overdose that make him lose his mojo and contact with reality?
Hi are you a narcissist?
Fasting is religious works and attracts narcissists.
Check out what Galatians 3 says about religious works
he never could control me...
Does HG stand for Higher Greater ? Wouldn’t it be more appropriate now to be HU ?...
Ha ha, it does not but I like your style!
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Thank you hg my problem is the job
Moving out of state is working for me.
Hello, I work with a female covert narcissists supervisor, I can't just quit my job. I do what i can to not engage with her, I giver her little to no attention by ignoreing her and remain silent with her. She exploded emotionally when I ignore her and abores the silence I send her way. The silent treatment is a childish pathetic move to me. I just do the same and she can't stand it. I can't go full on no contact but often block her on texts and emails. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Oh yes, I looking for new work.
Where cqn I buy your books??? I live in Australia.
Hello H. D., I have been listening to your content for a while and a question comes to mind. Did Sigmund Freud correctly identify your class of personality types or do more modern thinkers have a better handle on you?
Thank you. I can not run away. I am co parenting two kids. I have almost no cantact, arrangements are written. I don't mind, she gets the fuel using the kids, making things nobody can believe from a mother. Getting all the parenting for myself It is no possible. Be quiet when your kids are suffering is not possible. Getting her into a Court every week is not possible and all is hard to demonstrate with small kids and more difficult if you are a man. So.... What can I do to stop suffering? There is no answer to this from my psychologist, just acceptation. I could be dead, I have sequels and I don't care about myself, just about the kids. I have been divorced now for four years.... She has a couple but I think It is never going to stop. She always try to get something, the homework, money, speak bullshit about me to teachers, kids doctors, she ambush during my parenting... What can I do? Avoid legal stuff please... Just a tip for my sanity and my kids' would be ok. Sorry for my English and thank you.
A consult with HG would likely help, as he can give you insider tips.
Stay strong, focus on the long game. Don't ever play the same games that she plays.
My kids were with my ex until 2 years ago. When they were young, they didn't understand. Mother was always angry, always saying bad things about me, saying Dad didn't care about them, and letting them believe I knew what went on, but didn't have a problem with it. That damaged their trust. As they got older, they noticed the difference between us. I was trying to help and build people up, and didn't spend my time with them being negative or tearing anyone down.
She eventually collapsed, beat the kids, disowned them, and the kids came to me. They don't even want to talk to her now. They are disgusted at how two faced she is. now she's trying to get them back cos she's in her nice house, all by herself with nobody to serve her. But the kids are old enough to tell child protective services exactly why they don't want to go back.
Be a good man and a good father. Always let the kids know you are there for them. Listen to them, let them talk, and don't react too much, but remember it for later. Let them know they are good kids, and that they deserve respect, and should show it to others. Be a good example to them, by not allowing the hatred to pull you down. They need you to be like a rock that they can hold on to when the tide goes out... because someday it will go out, and they will need to cling to that rock, when the narcissist's boat starts sinking.
Im unable to leave due to finances. However, saving money quietly. No contact is coming
The ambush she took on the victim role everybody backed her up forcing me to accept her
I understand it was control I had 2 choices give in or deny
Her dirty little secret was standing there too watching she played the victim role perfect
I declined and turned away and thus smearingcampaign started
My fault I took Pity
Its a workthing she is stalking me for almost 3 a 4 years Its creepy no contact people are seeing the desperation the lenght she goes for ensnarement use logic and everything falls into place
No contact never react to a Hoover if they find someone willing to play their game that person no contact no feelings no remorse no fuel
The hardest part is not snooping their socials. Haha!
I know it’s complicated especially with my ex idk if im even snooping or feelin supernova and petty idk lol
I understand that some what. The sight of him makes me sick, but remembering how he treated me and my time and family . I blocked him everywhere then erased all social media.
True i snoop too my feelings won't change as far as him. Cause he talks about me but don't nobody he know knows me but what he say i know it me he is talking about. He is a D.J. and he talks thru his music too.
Hello HG
I would like to ask you a question
If I ever meet the person I 'used to know
And I talk to (him or her) will they be Abel to know that there is no more fuel for them because there is no feelings left towards them at all has been 3 years off no contact . I know for sure I will have to meet one day sooner or later
I know 100% they are one of your kind
And I know this
Thanks to you
You are doing a great job
😊
This is a little off-topic, but can anyone tell me how to check UA-cam messages from an iPhone? I can’t seem to access my messages and they continue to pile up.
No contact with these demons
Its the only way
So what if I get left alone, I dont mind, because unlike most people, I can thrive off of being alone!
That's when I can FINALLY have peace.
Besides, I can always, and usually do, "find" something to do.
Hey my narc supervisor cooked food for our group but could not attend lunch with us to eat it. Should I have trusted her and eaten it? I lied and said it tasted great but just through it out. Any suggestions?
I don’t even have to watch this. GO NO CONTACT. End of story.
How does a narcissistic use the children in the relationship to get fuel from the you. After a divorce?
By undermining you, especially by thumbing their nose at you, by reversing the reasonable restrictions you usually put in place for children’s wellbeing. They force you into ‘bad cop’ position.
parental alienation
@@honoryourself2098 right!
Many of them view the child as their mini me. The child must like what they like. If they are hot, the child is hot, if they like sports the child likes sports and on and on. The child is not treated as an individual at all with separate tastes or likes. If the child is smart they got it from them and will be reminded of that in various ways. How this works out usually depends on the age of the child. Perhaps they get fuel from the child and thinking they have control over their thinking. They will outline to the child all of your supposed faults and try to make them comrades against their shared enemy. Do not ask your child what they say about you. Don't even bring it up. . Let the child ask you questions. If the child tells you something they have said about you just laugh and say oh I don't pay attention to what he says about me. Without you directing the child to do the same-- they are STILL learning from that. Best thing to do is keep a structured consistent lifestyle for the child. Forget dating. They have enough unrest in their life with a narcissistic parent.
And get it right because I don't repeat my self
I wonder: I´ve established no-contact since months (in Germany) with my Narc after he`s left the house for the 8th time (as I understood you in previous films for the reason of gaining control or power over me again). Therefore I`m not quite sure whether I ended it or he did, but it was me telling him, that I don`t want to see him (or hear from him) ever again. Now I wonder: Couldn`t a Narc just feel satisfied in gaining positive fuel ONLY and cut off all his mind games, manipulations, gaslighting etc. ? Couldn`t he felt reckognized enough by just being loved? There are so many men aroun who lack feelings and tenderness but still aren`t crucial, malice or pretending to have feelings; they are pretty well in feeling that they are loved and cared for. Why can`t a Narc behave like that? Could a therapy help them to coop with those lacks?
Nope
How can i co-parent with as close to no contact as possible
Here is the answer Esco narcsite.com/how-to-co-parent-with-a-narcissist/
Do they aware about there need of the fuel
So I need volunteers
What if you work for a narcissist?
You're Fucked!😂😂😂
Is the written word really the lowest form of fuel for a narc??
Not me yet
Oh yes, the charm usually works.
It preys on our weaknesses.
Thanks for the information, but what do you do if they are close family and you can’t avoid them at Christmas?
You can avoid them. Don’t invite them and don’t accept the invitation.
Thanks for response
My elderly father insists on having both his daughters spend Christmas together and our mother has passed
Have tried to talk with him about it but he can’t see it
I know I won’t ever see her again after our father dies but am conflicted about what to do in the meantime
Would really appreciate further input
Btw I would never have realised what she was without your video
I am very grateful - have been seeing a therapist for a few years now and the penny never dropped
It was the smirk that gave her away
So I can train them
And delivered to u
Namaste🙏🏼