You're assuming that it wasn't a sequence prophecy like his other prophecies. The hug leads to casita crumbling which leads to reconciliation (not shown) which leads to casita being restored.
I actually think the prophecy was complete and the double meaning was supposed to be that way. I tried putting it in a form as known in acient prophecies as well as in the Prophecy of the Chosen one (aka Harry or Neville) which would be: A home to crumble A fortress to conquer An embrace for a person not so humble Two sisters in querrel to reconsile Avoiding a future parrel A hug for the magic to restore And at the end it's love that opens the door (Never mind the spelling mistakes, English is not my first language) In that case, the prophecy was not "rigged" in order for the magic to save itself but it was just a criptic way of putting it in a dipiction that is even less clear than words.
I don't think that there were two outcomes, only one. The House breaks after the hug, a yellow butterfly applears (abuéla and Mirabel reconciling) and the House is whole again.
I always thought that she was hugging Abuela in the picture not Isabella. And when she finally SAW abuela, not as her grandmother but as a woman who lost everything but her children, and was trying to keep from losing them again, is when everything was fixed. I think Isabella was a red herring.. at least in MY headcanon
I always read it as both. Remember, Bruno says that the vision is out of order. It goes back from the final moment, when Mirabel hugs her grandmother, to the moment before, when Mirabel hugs Isabela. Abuela and Isabela also look very similar. If you compare Abuela from the flashback to her granddaughter, you'll see. I think the magic was tricking Mirabel into hugging her sister, because, as this video is shown, it took that hug to get to the next hug. Hugs are the best! They are magic! Also hard conversations are worth it!
@@madnessarcade7447 it probably is both. Since there are two hugs, and two of the people involved in one of those hugs look very similar, I think it was the vision, killing two birds with one stone. Plus, since Mirabel didn't want to hug her sister, if it had told her just to hug her grandmother, she would've skipped a really important step.
Hear me out; the prophecy had two outcomes because *both* happened. The first is Mirabel, after hugging Isabela, standing in front of a broken house, the hug leading to it’s destruction. The second is Mirabel, after hugging *Abuela*, standing in front of a whole house, their reconciliation bringing the building back together. Both happened, and thus the entire prophecy was completed.
See that’s what I assumed was the proper interpretation. There wasn’t ever two outcomes, it was always one. Bruno thought it was two because he’d never foreseen such a unique situation before.
This was always how I interpreted it because well it’s what happens lol. The house gets destroyed then they rebuild it stronger and it’s with the help of Mirabel
So the house wouldn’t have crumbled but the family would have… also, Antonio isn’t asking ‘that’s Bruno?” He’s telling Camilo, “That’s Bruno!” You can tell from his face that he is proud to know who he is. And the punctuation in the subtitles.
I think the vision was right I don’t think it was showing us the house never crumbling I think it showed us the house after it’s rebuilt and the other path is the house being destroyed down the line and being irreparable
@@madnessarcade7447 I think the point was that Bruno’s vision(s) was always ambiguous & the family didn’t know how to interpret his mundane visions so they certainly wouldn’t have understood that one with so much at stake. His visions were never wrong. The question is: how do you interpret the vision & what do you do going forth.
is it wrong that that is my favorite line's in the entire movie. From Deloris teasing Camilo like she has one up on him, then Antonio with that tone, pride, and coolness that he exudes "thats bruno" I absolutly love it
Y'all said this in another video too, but Antonio very clearly says "That's Bruno" in response to Camillo. Camillo you can hear say "That's Bruno?" with the intonation of a question. Antonio lacks that question mark intonation. His body language also indicates that it's a response to Camillo (whose body language is one of uncertainty). It's more like Camillo is saying "Wait, that's Bruno?" and Antonio replying with "Yes, that is indeed Bruno."
I don't get it? Antonio Delores and mirabelle are the only ones that found out where Bruno was. Delores must have known the whole time and kept it to herself, Antonio learned it from brunos rat friends when he got his gift because 'the rats told me everything and he met him, and mirabelle when she chases him down in the walls. Where as Camilo must have been very young when mirabelle was 5? (Not sure of his age) and maybe didn't remember what his uncle was like and just imagined him as this villen that everyone was describing him as and that's why he has that inflection when asking? Like he was unimpressed with how normal and not scary he looked? ... or maybe from Camilos point of view he knew nothing about Bruno until his house fell down and bruno suddenly turns up randomly after all these years at the rubble sight on a horse with missing mirabelle and his emotionally distant granny who does NOT talk about Bruno! and they're now all besties? 'So we gonna talk about Bruno?'
@@Darkfur94 Delores actually points Mirabel to inside the walls in the breakfast scene, by saying "The only one worried about the magic is you... and the rats talking in the walls." She can't understand rats. Either she talked to Antonio about it immediately after he got his power, or it was a direct hint that hey someone's in the walls. I think she had been trying to point people at the situation without just directly saying it.
Oh yeah, also she directly states she can him during the we don't talk about bruno song. My theory would be she has a hard time talking about all the stuff she hears, considering how she must know everyone's secrets.
I continue to think that Mirabel's gift is that of emotional intelligence and that's why it took so long for the family to recognize it. She's an empath who was meant to teach the family before she realized her true potential - which is why the house HAD to crumble. She brought the entire village together from the beginning through teaching how to know the family, even without her gift, and she taught all of her family how to appreciate their lives outside of and in spite of their gifts.
I love the subtle symbolism of Encanto. The crumbling of Casita equals change while Castia not collapsing equals things/relationships staying the same. The crumbling Castia symbolizes the breakdown of past/broken relationships and the construction of the new Castia at the end of the movie symbolizes the building of new relationships between the family. The magic (formed by love) sensed that things needed to change for the love to continue or the magic would eventually disappear forever
Your comment made me think of the death card in a tarrot deck. Death doesn't mean death it means change, either good or bad depending on if it is right-side up or upside down
ben if you rewatch the "that's bruno" sequence and pay close attention to antonio's face, he isn't the least surprised. that's clearly the face of a lil guy who's happy to show off he knew way before his other cousins x)
Okay, I just want to touch on something. Whenever anyone brings up Antonio's response to "Are we gonna talk about Bruno?" in that last song they always are like "Why is he questioning it? He knew?" He WASN'T questioning it. He was CONFIRMING that that is in fact Bruno. He's saying "Yes, this is Tio Bruno. Yes, he is in fact still around."
Yes. I said that on another of their videos but couldn't find anyone else saying the same. It actually confused me the first time I saw them say it and I had to go back and rewatch the scene a few times. I thought I had misinterpreted it, but no. Antonio is saying "Yep, this is Bruno and I know that!".
Because for some reason the subtitles during that part have it written as "That's Bruno?" Don't understand why they did it but that's why everyone's confused about him questioning it
Can you guys please do a series of "What if Neville was the chosen one?" Some other possibly fun scenarios would be What if Dudley was a wizard (someone else already did it, but I'd like to see your take) or what if Petunia had been a loving caretaker (I saw a post talking about some ideas but I'd love to see how you think things would've been different).
My interpretation: the prophecy was out of order and they misunderstood the fracture. It was two points in time of the same prophecy. The house does crumble but comes back and the thing that kicks that off, is the hug.
I've always thought that Isabela in the vision represented anyone in the family that Mirabel resented. Yes, she made up with her and that's great, but that was only the first step. She immediately started arguing with Abuela. Although the argument was necessary for everyone to heal, the house was in a fragile state from all the years of tension, and finally cracked. When they made up and hugged, the magic came back.
I think it was less her "hugging" Isabela, but actually recognizing and "embracing" the truth of who Isabela is. The house had to fall because the foundation was false and had to be rebuilt with the reality of who each family member was as a person and not the gifts being who they are. The house came back after Mirabel was able to embrace every family member, including Isabela and Bruno who have often been mistaken for their gifts and not see as the person they truly are.
5:13 I actually thought about this last night when I watched it. I wondered if Mirabel secretly got a power but just not a door. That power being related to seeing into people’s minds. Would explain how she’s present in the town’s memory of Bruno, Luisa’s image of herself and image of what she wants 🦄, and also Alma’s true retelling of the candle’s origin at the end of the movie. (Yes, I know it is most likely just a movie thing and probably not intended at all.)
A popular theory is that Abuela and Mirabel both have powers, people just don't realize it. Not even the two of them. Abuela's is creating walls: when the miracle was granted to them, both a house and a giant ring of mountains forms for her. So according to the version of that theory I'm familiar with, she also is the one that creates the doors. Which is why Mirabel had a door and then it disappeared: her power is to break down walls. You can also see it from the house crumbling and the mountains opening up to let her out. But she doesn't just break down physical walls: she breaks down emotional ones too. That's why people open up to her. Isn't it weird how people legitimately didn't talk about Bruno until she started asking, and then suddenly everyone wanted to chime in? Doesn't Luisa crumble pretty quickly when Mirabel prods her for information? Isabella opening up is also pretty miraculous. And I just thought of one more thing: Mirabel is the only person Isabella shows pretty much ANY emotions to. Sure, it's resentment and frustration most of the time, but she's pretty much got her "perfect child" mask on 24/7 with the exception of that. You'll probably find a better explanation somewhere else of that theory, but hopefully I explained it well enough. Personally, I think it explains things exceptionally well. And while I don't think they ACTUALLY have those powers in the movie, I think that thematically they do. Abuela represents putting up walls and facades, and Mirabel represents breaking down walls and showing your true colors.
12:06 IDK, it looks to me more like Antonio is confirming to Camilo that the guy before them, is indeed Bruno. I mean, just look at his smug little grin. Kind of funny, since Camilo clearly had no clue what Bruno was like at all and was the only one of his siblings set not in the know.
You know what? I love when you guys both have your own what if scenarios and how one goes over Pixar and such and the other covers Harry Potter. I wonder if you guys may do more stuff like this
Whats funny is I came to the channel several years ago and all I saw in my YT feed and suggestions was J. I was so confused why the channel was "Carlin Bros." so confused of the intro showing both, and for like the first year that was all I saw was J and the Harry Potter/pixar theorys. My head cannon was "did J's brother die? is this a memento thing to help with the passing, so he is talking to the camera as if it's his brother theorizing about Harry Potter and Pixar and everything? is J's brother on deployment, and this is to help him through it?" like i had sooo many theories... THEN it happened... Then I saw Ben for the first time (since watching... and no i didn't go back into the history... why idk) and i was so happy and relieved almost to tears to see Ben wasn't dead and was alive and posting... >.< yeah my mind gets away from me a lot... but poses a good thought
My wife and I were going through a small rough patch in our marriage when we watched this movie for the first time at home and at the song about the caterpillars, we both burst into tears and came out stronger and more in love than ever.
I pretty much always thought that the two visions of the house DO come to pass because even if Mirabel hugs Isabella both outcomes of the house happen. The house crumbles but is then rebuilt, so even though they don't understand it the vision was always of 1 outcome. Just... At different points in time, showing Mirabel and Isabella hug is just the vision itself showing HOW to get to the outcome rather than stop 1 outcome
Completely agree, and also, I saw it as 1 **has** to happen in order to get to 2, the house must crumble in order to become whole... and Mirabel is the key to both of those events finally coming to pass.
What the prophecy was saying was that the hug is the catalyst that would lead to healing the family not the healing itself The hug was the treatment not the cure Her reconciliation with abuela was the cute that was what healed for family She had to hug Isabella to get to reconciliation with abuela
It wasn't the hug with Isabella that was in the vision. It was Maribel hugging Alma (young Abuela). Alma had to remember who she was - she had strayed. It was Mirabel's job to bring Abuela back to the person she was before, and THAT is what was in the vision.
I think that the hug was for Abuela, but Isabella was a red herring only because you see Abuela when she was younger, and if you look, abuela young looks exactly like Isabella. So mirabel hugging abuela kind of heals that younger trauma and leads to the house being saved.
Ben there is a mistake in your plot. Casita was broken by Abel not by Isabela. The hug between the sisters did restore the cracks and stabilized the house for a time until abuela came home and brought casita to its destruction. So, if Miracle does not hug Isabela the cracks that had formed continue to appear until in a future the house does crumble, because the family grows further apart. Also the vision can also be interpreted as Miracles need to hug abuela, who in younger years resembled Isabela. And since thy hug in the end the prophecy fulfills itself.
As far as the beauty/brawn/brains trio, what if her gift was supposed to be mind-related, but the miracle/Casita chose to protect Mirabel after seeing the outcome of the last "brains" related gift... Bruno?
I always precieved the vision as saying what will always come to pass. He told everyone everything and things still happened (i.e. goldfish, hair, etc.) And that the vision showed the house broken AND repaired..... not broken OR repaired.
Because I'm obsessed with this movie at the moment, can you do a video on what if Bruno never left, or what if he was discovered in the walls earlier, or what if he told his mom about the prophecy instead of leaving? Any of those would be awesome! 😀
I always thought Mirabel would have been given some kind of super empathy powers. She seems to very easily be able to slip into someone else's perspective and understand them. That's just my head cannon though
I only just now noticed when the family is present for the engagement and their powers are going cuckoo that Dolores is covering her ears. It’s like at that moment she didn’t have control over her powers to isolate everyone’s voice, but could suddenly hear them all, all at once.
I always kinda wonder about the world in Encanto. like, what if there are other miracles? like, other families with magic like the Madrigals? maybe in a different form, but I'd be interested to know if there are more people with something similar to their candle. We never see very far beyond the town, though.
My alternate understanding; Casita was never going to remain intact, it was going to crumble regardless. The Hug was the trigger that determined whether or not Casita would crumble and then be restored, or crumble and remain destroyed forever.
I always read the crumbling as being more the family will fall apart if she doesn't act like she does. The house crumbling is more related how Abuela is putting pressure on the others, hence pressure on the the powers. So when the two sisters have a crazy, wild, messy but important bonding moment that starts to fix the family - but Grandma's rage causes the entire thing to be undone and tears apart family and house in one fowl swoop 😅 So I think the house would crumble regardless, if not as instantly as it does in the film. Difference is the family does not reform and neither does the house.
I wonder if Casita/magic would give up if Mirabel doesn't hug Isabella. I can imagine one of the next generation not having powers too and they end up being the one who reconciles everybody to save the house. Abuella would be much older and she isn't likely the key relationship anymore -- it's Mirabel, who is resentful of losing her uniqueness and possibly even being blamed for the child not getting a power.
Mirabel didn’t get the power because she’s the special one and the rest of the family is not They needed the extra assistance to be exceptional mirabel was born it It’s like being born a genius vs getting extra tutoring and help to get there That’s always been my theory Casita didn’t give her a power because she didn’t think mirabel needed the help She believed mirabel could do anything she set her mind to on her own
He says the house crumbled because of Mirabel and Isabela hugging. But he overlooked a key factor,that being that the house was *already* cracking and had been for awhile,as exhibited by the patched cracks inside the walls. It seems,at least to me,that the house was cracking because of the strain the family was under,to always be strong (Luisa),or perfect (Isabel). They never saw being themselves as good enough. And if the hug caused the house to crumble,it would have happened in that moment. So I don’t think the hug had much of anything to do with it. I think the deciding factor here was Abuela not listening to Mirabel, which made her angry enough to snap at her and the hurtful words that she said to Abuela,telling her the miracle was dying because of her. So,my thought is “What if Abuela had *listened* to Mirabel instead of yelling at her?”
I thought the prophecy shows Mirabel being the catalyst for Casita crumbling, with the hug leading to the needed confrontation between Mirabel and her Abuela. But it’s not an either or scenario as Mirabel is also the one that coaxes the family to rebuild and the magic is brought back through her. She both breaks Casita and brings it back together.
I would love if the Carlin brothers would do a video about the town of Encanto and it's members. I have a personal head cannon that the town gets organized to help the Madrigals because of Mariano and his mother. Mariano is clearly a good guy from how Dolores talks about him making his mom proud and how he's the only one who seems to notice at dinner that something is wrong with Mirabel. Even going so far as to ask her is everything is okay and not getting upset at any of the weird behavior during dinner, just letting it just roll off him. I think during the night when Mirabel was missing and her family searched, Mariano couldn't write his poetry like he does every night because he was worried about the Madrigals. He recognized that they are a huge part of the town, they are always helping and now they needed help. His mother seems influential and I think he went to her, said he wanted to get the whole town together and they then went to the merchant and the priest to hold a town meeting the next morning. By the time Mirabel was found the town had had the meeting, all went back home for tools and materials, then when the bells went off that Mirabel was found they were all ready en mass to go help with Mariano, mom, priest, and merchant right at the front leading the way.
I personally interpret the image of Mirabel hugging Isabella as the family as a whole reconciling, with the image taking the shape of Mirabel and Isabella because their bickering at the time of the vision was the biggest tension within the family, and may have represented the tension within the family as a whole. The hug would obviously symbolize the reconciliation of the tensions within the family. However, since the family didn’t reconcile in the course of events that we see in the movie, the house crumpled. It did not crumple because Mirabel hugged Isabella.
I always thought after watch the movie several times that the vision was never ment for Mirabel. Abuela was the one that asked Bruno to use his power to see why Mirabel didn’t get a door. And when Mirabel is with Bruno to see the vision she follows the golden butterfly that is also representing Abuela. The butterfly goes to the image of Mirabel and Isabella hugging and… If Abuela was the one watching the vision instead of Mirabel. The vision might have been trying to tell Abuela how she responds to the two sister hugging is what makes the house fall apart or stay standing. I just like that version^ instead bc it idk just kinda worked for me when I say the movie a few times. If Abuela was closer to Bruno, if she saw the vision and was closer to her family and tried to solve the case of Mirabel, she might have saved the family a lot soon. Instead of Mirabel feeling left out. I also think Mirabel is in the vision to be begin with bc the House intended for Mirabel to take over the family “watcher of power” but it was Mirabel that lost out bc he Abuela lost sight of who the magic was for and that’s why the vision is ment for Abuela to fix not necessary Mirabel.
I always thought the hug in the vision was the one between Mirabel and Abuela. Remember, Bruno hadn't done a vision in years. He might have gotten it wrong.
Bruno did say that the vision was out of order. I think they both got tricked because Isa and her grandmother look a lot alike, at least young Alma and Isabela.
I guess like 2 things on my part to be pretty nit picky 1.) The vision I believe was always supposed to be about Mirabel hugging Abuela, but part of what you said does make sense since if the vision did show that the emotions wouldn't have been genuine between the characters, and the Isabella hug is still huge because it shows how caring and loving Mirabel would be as the matriarch of the family. 2.) Antonio wasn't playing dumb he was point out the obvious like "yeah I knew it's no big deal" he wasn't playing dumb there's a pretty big different between the too and changes a little about the theory the way you presented it.
I interpretted it as both "conclusions" to the vision were right. Cos we saw the cracks repairing when Mirabel hugged Isabella, so that crumbling was undone. But then Abuela came in and restarted the crumbling, which Mirabel decided not to pretend it was ok anymore.
So, I didn't see it as two different outcomes, I saw it as Mirabel was the catalyst that caused Casita to crumble and fall. But she was also instrumental in getting her rebuilt. Sometimes things need to be broken down further before they can be repaired and rebuilt. And it was necessary for it to, all, fall apart for everyone to realize how broken they, already, were.
Wouldn't the power have been lost anyway. Luisa's powers started failing when the house started cracking, the cracking is what caused Mirabel to want to save the house, which led to finding Bruno and the hug. The gifts seems like they would've left long before Abuelas passing.
I’m pretty sure the prophecy was saying the hug would be the catalyst to saving the miracle. Like Mirabel running to the river and reconnecting with Abuela would never have been possible without the house falling. BUT connecting with Isa would only happen with the hug. I think the house would’ve still fallen without the hug. Just not recoverable and may have given them an extra day.🧐🤓
I prefer the idea that there wasn't actually two different outcomes to the vision, it's that the vision predicted both the house crumbling and being restored. The vision only showed a crumbled house and a whole house, with Mirabel as a deciding factor. A whole house doesn't nessicarily mean it never crumbled, it could just be showing the house's restoration, which would fit, since Mirabel's the one to not only ultimately bring the family back together, but also puts the finishing touch on the restored house. I feel like that makes more internally consistent sense considering none of Bruno's other visions had more than one outcome, and it's pretty clear that even Bruno himself can't perfectly read the vision.
Mirabel didn’t get the power because she’s the special one and the rest of the family is not They needed the extra assistance to be exceptional mirabel was born it It’s like being born a genius vs getting extra tutoring and help to get there That’s always been my theory Casita didn’t give her a power because she didn’t think mirabel needed the help She believed mirabel could do anything she set her mind to on her own
I personally think regardless on whether or not the hug happened the house would crumble. I think the original prophecy was whether or not it can be re built. With the hug it helps Mirebel and her family understand each other’s sides more and helps the moment with Mirable and Abuela understand each other more. The abuela needed to learn that she was being too hard with wanting things to be perfect and I think some of what Mirabel said in the conformation helped Abuela understand more of what she was doing wrong. If the hug didn’t happen the house would more likely be gone forever at some point. With the hug and house crumble it also helps the other family members be more accepting of Bruno’s return
I feel like the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because after she touched the candle she wiped her dress therefore wiping the magic off Am I the only one who realized that or did everyone notice that but nobody talks about it?
In Frozen the act of true love that saved Anna was actually Anna sacrificing herself for Elsa, not Elsa hugging her afterwards. 12:07 - Antonio wasn't playing dumb, he was being smug 'that's Bruno' as in I know more about Bruno than you do.
1. When Antonio says "That's Bruno?" I think he is being sarcastic, considering his brothers description of Bruno as 7 feet tall. 2. I believe the house was going to crumble no matter what, the family was constantly being pulled apart and the stress was making it impossible to survive. The hug, whether Isabella or Abuela, was meant to symbolize that is is up to Maribel to heal the family and bring them all together which would allow the house to be rebuilt and the magic to return.
I thought it was Abuela in the prophecy but younger. Cuz abuela looks exactly like Isabella when she was younger AND when abuela and Maribel hug everything is ok
We don't talk about Bruno came on UA-cam and I ended up watching the movie the other day and really liking it Glad to see you super Carlin video coming so timely. This is definitely been commented on already but I think Mirabelle not getting her power was to keep the family stronger.
the house was breaking already. i think it would break eventually but no idea how fast. candle was already flicking. and i think Bruno's first vision show that Mirabel will both break and fix the house like it happened in the story. But still cool theory!
I always thought Casita had to fall because the foundation of the magic it was built on was no longer good. It became all about serving the town and basically doing their chores because Abuela lost sight of why it was given to her in the first place. It fell and was made with a new, stronger, foundation and the last part going in by Mirabel was what woke it back up and fully passed on the role of magic keeper.
See the song and subsequent hug with Isabella is the catalyst for the argument with Abuela. That argument is what causes the house to crumble because the person in the vision isn’t Isabella it’s abuela when she was young. Eveything with Isabella is just what triggered a fight that was always going to happen
I've always assumed Mirabel's power would be some kind of enhanced vision,maybe a mix of the ability to see through things and the ability to see things miles away? The seeing through things could work like an X-ray,linking to her mom's healing ability. It's also a sense based ability, similar to Delores' power and it's a better version of sight,not unlike the ability to see the future (Bruno can see the present,like everyone else,but also the future). Besides,as the person who saves the family from ruin,she can definitely see further that the average person and sees through people's disguises to reveal their true feelings
I think that the magic that keeps the miracle alive is the love of family. The hug in the propehcy isnt meaning an actual hug but for all bad relations to be fixed. But when abuela got mad at mirabel and blamed her, thats when the house crumbled.
Proposal: The theme with Bruno is "fear". Both from himself and the people around him. He always gets a vision and, out of fear, everyone makes an assumption as to what it means and stick with that assumption rather than revising it because revising would mean uncertainty, which is scary. Same can be said for the Casita Visions. There never was an Option A or B. Bruno saw two visions but one future. It wasn't a timelines question it was just a warning that BOTH of those things are going to happen. But because everyone's always afraid, they chose to believe it was a choice instead.
The prophecy isn't Mirabel embracing Isabela... but rather Isabela (and everybody else in the family) embracing Mirabel. I'm not ignoring the idea that it needs to be mutual... but Mirabel has done nothing but "try to good" while being outcast by everyone who isn't her parents. The Casita crumbles, not because Mirabel was embraced by her sisters, but because the one person who ultimately needed to embrace Mirabel... rejected her (Abuela). Abuela's rejection... directly tied to the Casita's crumbling... is why the Casita crumbles. Each time one of her sister's genuinely embrace Mirabel (mutually), the Casita stops crumbling... but the immediate rejection/horror/confusion by Abuela, is what ultimately causes the Casita to crumble, because the "core" of the family (Abuela) is shattered. It isn't until the Casita crumbles, and everybody loses their gifts, that Abuela realizes the magnitude of her "hurt" and resentment. Once Abuela reconciles with Mirabel... and fully accepts her and embraces her... and the "true meaning" of the gift... the family... the "core" of the family, and the gift... is restored in full... because Mirabel is Embraced by the family, as a whole. Mirabel... like Abuela... is the Keeper of the Flame.
I think what happened is that Mirabel and Isabela were the most disconnected in the family which is why the hug fixed the cracks. "Waiting on a Miracle" showed Mirabel feeling disconnected from her family. When the house first started crumbling, Mirabel went to go warn everyone which included her family. Right there was a connection and Casita was fine. During the argument with Abuela, there was a disconnection and Casita crumbled. So basically, if there's a disconnection anywhere in the family, Casita crumbles. The hug didn't break the miracle. Abuela did.
The house survived when Bruno left, meaning the family feeling whole keeps the house whole. Not the family actually being whole. Casita turns into a shell, serving as a house, but not a true home. Maribel would likly leave, too. Either joining Bruno, or leaving the valley.
Casita crumbling is the cocoon. Abuela and Maribel reconciling is the transformation (butterfly). The magic had to be broken to make something even more beautiful.
Does anyone actually pay attention to Antonio when he says "That's Bruno." He isn't asking a question. He is stating a fact. Look at how he looks at his brother and how he points at Bruno. It is very clear he knows who Bruno is and is saying so. Even if you don't pay attention to his body language the tone of his voice is very clear that he is making a statement and not that he is asking a question.
The whole point for the hug was interacting with each other. Everyone was being mechanical and doing their “function”. They each felt alone. When mirabel hugged her sister she reconnected with her “human touch”. If she didn’t hug her and the house stood up they would still crumble as a family. Hence your family is your home. That’s the whole point of the story. We can live next to a person and still feel alone. Bruno living in the walls was no different that Isabella living in her room. In fact, Bruno was less alone because he was aware of this and was able to interact with his family as he chose (seen in background of animation).
Here is something I thought of while listen to this. What if the dual outcomes are just one outcome? The house will crumble and be rebuilt (hence seeing it with and without cracks in succession) because of the embrace. Bruno always sees the future and never choices. The embrace was always going to happen as well as the house falling down and being rebuilt regardless of the characters choices.
I wish more people would recognize that something breaking is not always a bad thing. Sometimes something has to be broken in order for it to be built into something better…
I always saw the vision as showing a multi-step process. Everyone in the family needed to heal their relationship with Abuela and Bruno, and Isabella and Mirabel needed to heal their relationship as well. Mirabel needed to hug Isabella AND Abuela, but as Bruno said the scenes in the vision appeared out of order
I always thought that the prophecy wasn't two outcomes...but two steps. The house needed to crumble to be whole. Also Antonio's "that's Bruno!" Is a tease at his confused brother (he has a smirk)
I just wanted to say this much: that scene where Antonio says "That's Bruno", I don't think he's asking a question. I think he's being cheeky and pointing out "that's Bruno" to his brother.
The hug of Isabella could have also been more of a hint than a direct 'this is gonna happen' type thing. The hint was to have compassion for each other. It's only when mirabel sympathizes and understands her sister. It is the last thing that was needed to open her eyes to what the true problem was.
Since I've seen this movie some weeks ago, I've been obsessed with it. Between the amazing music, gorgeous visuals and heartwarming story, this has to be my favorite Disney movie (maybe excluding Pixar, not sure about that). As for the prophecy, I think that it doesn't actually show multiple scenarios. That's only what Bruno thinks it means because he isn't aware of the context. The prophecy is out of order. First comes the hug with Isabela, which is the catalyst of all family drama which previously everyone still kept mostly to themselves, to come out. The house breaks and the magic is lost. But then comes the butterfly. Like the caterpillar leaving its cocoon as a beautiful butterfly, with this new mutual understanding, there's a new foundation for a healthier family dynamic, which has to be built over time, just like the house. That's when the fixed house, which stands for the fixed family, comes in. I completely agree with your alternate scenario though. Without the hug and following breaking of the house, magic and family, I believe everyone would get more miserable with time, which would show in the magic getting weaker and weaker. Eventually, the magic would die with Abuela once she passes away. Without her, the family would not stick together, and just like the previous isolation of Bruno from everyone else, some might completely isolate from each other by that point. Luckily, through breaking and rebuilding the family, this scenario doesn't play out.
I always thought mirabel’s door ceremony didn’t fail. She sees the door break down, she sees how the house is going to fail, and she has been bestowed with the critical thinking skills and love for her family to fix it in the future. It’s not a physical gift, it’s not visible, but it’s predestined in the same way
I always took it as a misinterpretation of the prophecy, that the house was ALWAYS going to crumble, but that it was also ALWAYS going to be rebuilt and survive perfectly. To me it wasn't an "either or" situation, but a "both will occur" situation
I always interpreted Brunos vision as mirabel hugging a younger abuela. The viewer just doesn’t understand that until they hug near the water. And then they see the butterfly which only further cemented that the vision was actually abuela. I think all along she just needed to remember her younger self at the time she first received the magic
I mean.. the prophecy had 2 outcomes..
Casita crumbles or Casita Stands
Hug = Crumble soo... What If Mirabel Never Hugged Isabela?
I mean, I would argue that 2 outcomes doesn't necessarily mean that doing something different would automatically shift it to the other outcome
You're assuming that it wasn't a sequence prophecy like his other prophecies. The hug leads to casita crumbling which leads to reconciliation (not shown) which leads to casita being restored.
I actually think the prophecy was complete and the double meaning was supposed to be that way. I tried putting it in a form as known in acient prophecies as well as in the Prophecy of the Chosen one (aka Harry or Neville) which would be:
A home to crumble
A fortress to conquer
An embrace for a person not so humble
Two sisters in querrel
to reconsile
Avoiding a future parrel
A hug for the magic to restore
And at the end it's love that opens the door
(Never mind the spelling mistakes, English is not my first language)
In that case, the prophecy was not "rigged" in order for the magic to save itself but it was just a criptic way of putting it in a dipiction that is even less clear than words.
I don't think that there were two outcomes, only one. The House breaks after the hug, a yellow butterfly applears (abuéla and Mirabel reconciling) and the House is whole again.
What if that wasn’t Isabella, but Abuja Alma? She looked A LOT like Isabella when she was younger!
I always thought that she was hugging Abuela in the picture not Isabella. And when she finally SAW abuela, not as her grandmother but as a woman who lost everything but her children, and was trying to keep from losing them again, is when everything was fixed. I think Isabella was a red herring.. at least in MY headcanon
I always read it as both. Remember, Bruno says that the vision is out of order. It goes back from the final moment, when Mirabel hugs her grandmother, to the moment before, when Mirabel hugs Isabela. Abuela and Isabela also look very similar. If you compare Abuela from the flashback to her granddaughter, you'll see. I think the magic was tricking Mirabel into hugging her sister, because, as this video is shown, it took that hug to get to the next hug. Hugs are the best! They are magic! Also hard conversations are worth it!
@@ZeldaWolf2000 it definitely was Isabella because the scene played out the vision 1 to 1
My thought exactly!
I think it was Abuela because her and Isabella look age for age very similar
@@madnessarcade7447 it probably is both. Since there are two hugs, and two of the people involved in one of those hugs look very similar, I think it was the vision, killing two birds with one stone. Plus, since Mirabel didn't want to hug her sister, if it had told her just to hug her grandmother, she would've skipped a really important step.
Hear me out; the prophecy had two outcomes because *both* happened. The first is Mirabel, after hugging Isabela, standing in front of a broken house, the hug leading to it’s destruction. The second is Mirabel, after hugging *Abuela*, standing in front of a whole house, their reconciliation bringing the building back together. Both happened, and thus the entire prophecy was completed.
Oooh, I love this! It works so well!
See that’s what I assumed was the proper interpretation. There wasn’t ever two outcomes, it was always one. Bruno thought it was two because he’d never foreseen such a unique situation before.
Makes sense to me!
This was always how I interpreted it because well it’s what happens lol. The house gets destroyed then they rebuild it stronger and it’s with the help of Mirabel
I agree. I’ve always thought this was the case. Seems perfectly clear.
So the house wouldn’t have crumbled but the family would have… also, Antonio isn’t asking ‘that’s Bruno?” He’s telling Camilo, “That’s Bruno!” You can tell from his face that he is proud to know who he is. And the punctuation in the subtitles.
I think the vision was right I don’t think it was showing us the house never crumbling I think it showed us the house after it’s rebuilt and the other path is the house being destroyed down the line and being irreparable
@@madnessarcade7447 I think the point was that Bruno’s vision(s) was always ambiguous & the family didn’t know how to interpret his mundane visions so they certainly wouldn’t have understood that one with so much at stake. His visions were never wrong. The question is: how do you interpret the vision & what do you do going forth.
I think the house still crumbles, just slower and not entirely until Abuela dies.
is it wrong that that is my favorite line's in the entire movie. From Deloris teasing Camilo like she has one up on him, then Antonio with that tone, pride, and coolness that he exudes "thats bruno" I absolutly love it
Yes ok everyone always says that he was playing dumb but I always saw it this way
Y'all said this in another video too, but Antonio very clearly says "That's Bruno" in response to Camillo. Camillo you can hear say "That's Bruno?" with the intonation of a question. Antonio lacks that question mark intonation. His body language also indicates that it's a response to Camillo (whose body language is one of uncertainty). It's more like Camillo is saying "Wait, that's Bruno?" and Antonio replying with "Yes, that is indeed Bruno."
THANK YOU! They said the same thing in a previous video about Antonio's line and no one in the comments said a thing, except for me!
I don't get it? Antonio Delores and mirabelle are the only ones that found out where Bruno was. Delores must have known the whole time and kept it to herself, Antonio learned it from brunos rat friends when he got his gift because 'the rats told me everything and he met him, and mirabelle when she chases him down in the walls. Where as Camilo must have been very young when mirabelle was 5? (Not sure of his age) and maybe didn't remember what his uncle was like and just imagined him as this villen that everyone was describing him as and that's why he has that inflection when asking? Like he was unimpressed with how normal and not scary he looked?
... or maybe from Camilos point of view he knew nothing about Bruno until his house fell down and bruno suddenly turns up randomly after all these years at the rubble sight on a horse with missing mirabelle and his emotionally distant granny who does NOT talk about Bruno! and they're now all besties? 'So we gonna talk about Bruno?'
Yes, thank you, someone else understands
@@Darkfur94 Delores actually points Mirabel to inside the walls in the breakfast scene, by saying "The only one worried about the magic is you... and the rats talking in the walls." She can't understand rats. Either she talked to Antonio about it immediately after he got his power, or it was a direct hint that hey someone's in the walls. I think she had been trying to point people at the situation without just directly saying it.
Oh yeah, also she directly states she can him during the we don't talk about bruno song. My theory would be she has a hard time talking about all the stuff she hears, considering how she must know everyone's secrets.
I continue to think that Mirabel's gift is that of emotional intelligence and that's why it took so long for the family to recognize it. She's an empath who was meant to teach the family before she realized her true potential - which is why the house HAD to crumble. She brought the entire village together from the beginning through teaching how to know the family, even without her gift, and she taught all of her family how to appreciate their lives outside of and in spite of their gifts.
I love the subtle symbolism of Encanto. The crumbling of Casita equals change while Castia not collapsing equals things/relationships staying the same. The crumbling Castia symbolizes the breakdown of past/broken relationships and the construction of the new Castia at the end of the movie symbolizes the building of new relationships between the family. The magic (formed by love) sensed that things needed to change for the love to continue or the magic would eventually disappear forever
Your comment made me think of the death card in a tarrot deck. Death doesn't mean death it means change, either good or bad depending on if it is right-side up or upside down
ben if you rewatch the "that's bruno" sequence and pay close attention to antonio's face, he isn't the least surprised. that's clearly the face of a lil guy who's happy to show off he knew way before his other cousins x)
Camilo is Antonio's brother but still LOL smug Antonio!
I know right. I mean he met Bruno earlier and offered his room (and his plush animal) to help Bruno have his vision. so clearly he knows who Bruno is.
And in the official karaoke after the '' it's Bruno '' there's a exclamation point ( ! ) meaning he isn't questionning his statement
These "What If?" scenarios are really unique. Please keep making them.
Okay, I just want to touch on something. Whenever anyone brings up Antonio's response to "Are we gonna talk about Bruno?" in that last song they always are like "Why is he questioning it? He knew?" He WASN'T questioning it. He was CONFIRMING that that is in fact Bruno. He's saying "Yes, this is Tio Bruno. Yes, he is in fact still around."
Yes. I said that on another of their videos but couldn't find anyone else saying the same. It actually confused me the first time I saw them say it and I had to go back and rewatch the scene a few times. I thought I had misinterpreted it, but no. Antonio is saying "Yep, this is Bruno and I know that!".
Because for some reason the subtitles during that part have it written as "That's Bruno?" Don't understand why they did it but that's why everyone's confused about him questioning it
Can you guys please do a series of "What if Neville was the chosen one?"
Some other possibly fun scenarios would be What if Dudley was a wizard (someone else already did it, but I'd like to see your take) or what if Petunia had been a loving caretaker (I saw a post talking about some ideas but I'd love to see how you think things would've been different).
Yes, this would be amazing
YES to the Neville! i would love to see that...
TBH i would watch the others, but not as interested.
Even what if petunia was a witch!
They have done a video already on that, I think ? They talked about both paths and possibilites (I can't remember the title tho)
My interpretation: the prophecy was out of order and they misunderstood the fracture. It was two points in time of the same prophecy. The house does crumble but comes back and the thing that kicks that off, is the hug.
I've always thought that Isabela in the vision represented anyone in the family that Mirabel resented. Yes, she made up with her and that's great, but that was only the first step. She immediately started arguing with Abuela. Although the argument was necessary for everyone to heal, the house was in a fragile state from all the years of tension, and finally cracked. When they made up and hugged, the magic came back.
I think it was less her "hugging" Isabela, but actually recognizing and "embracing" the truth of who Isabela is. The house had to fall because the foundation was false and had to be rebuilt with the reality of who each family member was as a person and not the gifts being who they are. The house came back after Mirabel was able to embrace every family member, including Isabela and Bruno who have often been mistaken for their gifts and not see as the person they truly are.
5:13 I actually thought about this last night when I watched it. I wondered if Mirabel secretly got a power but just not a door. That power being related to seeing into people’s minds. Would explain how she’s present in the town’s memory of Bruno, Luisa’s image of herself and image of what she wants 🦄, and also Alma’s true retelling of the candle’s origin at the end of the movie. (Yes, I know it is most likely just a movie thing and probably not intended at all.)
A popular theory is that Abuela and Mirabel both have powers, people just don't realize it. Not even the two of them. Abuela's is creating walls: when the miracle was granted to them, both a house and a giant ring of mountains forms for her. So according to the version of that theory I'm familiar with, she also is the one that creates the doors. Which is why Mirabel had a door and then it disappeared: her power is to break down walls. You can also see it from the house crumbling and the mountains opening up to let her out. But she doesn't just break down physical walls: she breaks down emotional ones too. That's why people open up to her. Isn't it weird how people legitimately didn't talk about Bruno until she started asking, and then suddenly everyone wanted to chime in? Doesn't Luisa crumble pretty quickly when Mirabel prods her for information? Isabella opening up is also pretty miraculous. And I just thought of one more thing: Mirabel is the only person Isabella shows pretty much ANY emotions to. Sure, it's resentment and frustration most of the time, but she's pretty much got her "perfect child" mask on 24/7 with the exception of that.
You'll probably find a better explanation somewhere else of that theory, but hopefully I explained it well enough. Personally, I think it explains things exceptionally well. And while I don't think they ACTUALLY have those powers in the movie, I think that thematically they do. Abuela represents putting up walls and facades, and Mirabel represents breaking down walls and showing your true colors.
@@archerelms Cool theory
"Instead they're always cryptic, confusing, and completely open to interpretation."
One love the alliteration, and two yeah just look at poor Harry.
Aye, or any Half-bloods in the Riordan books
12:06 IDK, it looks to me more like Antonio is confirming to Camilo that the guy before them, is indeed Bruno. I mean, just look at his smug little grin. Kind of funny, since Camilo clearly had no clue what Bruno was like at all and was the only one of his siblings set not in the know.
You know what? I love when you guys both have your own what if scenarios and how one goes over Pixar and such and the other covers Harry Potter. I wonder if you guys may do more stuff like this
Love you guys :) and also your what ifs, keep up the good work :)
Whats funny is I came to the channel several years ago and all I saw in my YT feed and suggestions was J. I was so confused why the channel was "Carlin Bros." so confused of the intro showing both, and for like the first year that was all I saw was J and the Harry Potter/pixar theorys.
My head cannon was "did J's brother die? is this a memento thing to help with the passing, so he is talking to the camera as if it's his brother theorizing about Harry Potter and Pixar and everything? is J's brother on deployment, and this is to help him through it?" like i had sooo many theories... THEN it happened... Then I saw Ben for the first time (since watching... and no i didn't go back into the history... why idk) and i was so happy and relieved almost to tears to see Ben wasn't dead and was alive and posting... >.< yeah my mind gets away from me a lot... but poses a good thought
@@firedem0n5 Why is this EXACTLY what happened to me?!
@@TabysHere *shrugs* I’m sooo glad I’m not the only one 😅
My wife and I were going through a small rough patch in our marriage when we watched this movie for the first time at home and at the song about the caterpillars, we both burst into tears and came out stronger and more in love than ever.
I pretty much always thought that the two visions of the house DO come to pass because even if Mirabel hugs Isabella both outcomes of the house happen. The house crumbles but is then rebuilt, so even though they don't understand it the vision was always of 1 outcome. Just... At different points in time, showing Mirabel and Isabella hug is just the vision itself showing HOW to get to the outcome rather than stop 1 outcome
This is what I’ve always thought
Completely agree, and also, I saw it as 1 **has** to happen in order to get to 2, the house must crumble in order to become whole... and Mirabel is the key to both of those events finally coming to pass.
What the prophecy was saying was that the hug is the catalyst that would lead to healing the family not the healing itself
The hug was the treatment not the cure
Her reconciliation with abuela was the cute that was what healed for family
She had to hug Isabella to get to reconciliation with abuela
It wasn't the hug with Isabella that was in the vision. It was Maribel hugging Alma (young Abuela). Alma had to remember who she was - she had strayed. It was Mirabel's job to bring Abuela back to the person she was before, and THAT is what was in the vision.
Yeah I thought it was a young abuela
Isabella face still appeared in the vision afterward lol
I think that the hug was for Abuela, but Isabella was a red herring only because you see Abuela when she was younger, and if you look, abuela young looks exactly like Isabella. So mirabel hugging abuela kind of heals that younger trauma and leads to the house being saved.
Ben there is a mistake in your plot. Casita was broken by Abel not by Isabela. The hug between the sisters did restore the cracks and stabilized the house for a time until abuela came home and brought casita to its destruction. So, if Miracle does not hug Isabela the cracks that had formed continue to appear until in a future the house does crumble, because the family grows further apart.
Also the vision can also be interpreted as Miracles need to hug abuela, who in younger years resembled Isabela. And since thy hug in the end the prophecy fulfills itself.
As far as the beauty/brawn/brains trio, what if her gift was supposed to be mind-related, but the miracle/Casita chose to protect Mirabel after seeing the outcome of the last "brains" related gift... Bruno?
I always precieved the vision as saying what will always come to pass. He told everyone everything and things still happened (i.e. goldfish, hair, etc.) And that the vision showed the house broken AND repaired..... not broken OR repaired.
Because I'm obsessed with this movie at the moment, can you do a video on what if Bruno never left, or what if he was discovered in the walls earlier, or what if he told his mom about the prophecy instead of leaving? Any of those would be awesome! 😀
I always thought Mirabel would have been given some kind of super empathy powers. She seems to very easily be able to slip into someone else's perspective and understand them. That's just my head cannon though
I only just now noticed when the family is present for the engagement and their powers are going cuckoo that Dolores is covering her ears. It’s like at that moment she didn’t have control over her powers to isolate everyone’s voice, but could suddenly hear them all, all at once.
I always kinda wonder about the world in Encanto. like, what if there are other miracles? like, other families with magic like the Madrigals? maybe in a different form, but I'd be interested to know if there are more people with something similar to their candle. We never see very far beyond the town, though.
My alternate understanding; Casita was never going to remain intact, it was going to crumble regardless. The Hug was the trigger that determined whether or not Casita would crumble and then be restored, or crumble and remain destroyed forever.
I always read the crumbling as being more the family will fall apart if she doesn't act like she does. The house crumbling is more related how Abuela is putting pressure on the others, hence pressure on the the powers. So when the two sisters have a crazy, wild, messy but important bonding moment that starts to fix the family - but Grandma's rage causes the entire thing to be undone and tears apart family and house in one fowl swoop 😅 So I think the house would crumble regardless, if not as instantly as it does in the film. Difference is the family does not reform and neither does the house.
I wonder if Casita/magic would give up if Mirabel doesn't hug Isabella. I can imagine one of the next generation not having powers too and they end up being the one who reconciles everybody to save the house. Abuella would be much older and she isn't likely the key relationship anymore -- it's Mirabel, who is resentful of losing her uniqueness and possibly even being blamed for the child not getting a power.
Mirabel didn’t get the power because she’s the special one and the rest of the family is not
They needed the extra assistance to be exceptional mirabel was born it
It’s like being born a genius vs getting extra tutoring and help to get there
That’s always been my theory
Casita didn’t give her a power because she didn’t think mirabel needed the help
She believed mirabel could do anything she set her mind to on her own
ive been watchin yall since high school like 9 years ago and its crazy how yall have grown. thanks for making special parts in our hearts
He says the house crumbled because of Mirabel and Isabela hugging. But he overlooked a key factor,that being that the house was *already* cracking and had been for awhile,as exhibited by the patched cracks inside the walls. It seems,at least to me,that the house was cracking because of the strain the family was under,to always be strong (Luisa),or perfect (Isabel). They never saw being themselves as good enough. And if the hug caused the house to crumble,it would have happened in that moment. So I don’t think the hug had much of anything to do with it. I think the deciding factor here was Abuela not listening to Mirabel, which made her angry enough to snap at her and the hurtful words that she said to Abuela,telling her the miracle was dying because of her. So,my thought is “What if Abuela had *listened* to Mirabel instead of yelling at her?”
I thought the prophecy shows Mirabel being the catalyst for Casita crumbling, with the hug leading to the needed confrontation between Mirabel and her Abuela. But it’s not an either or scenario as Mirabel is also the one that coaxes the family to rebuild and the magic is brought back through her. She both breaks Casita and brings it back together.
I would love if the Carlin brothers would do a video about the town of Encanto and it's members. I have a personal head cannon that the town gets organized to help the Madrigals because of Mariano and his mother. Mariano is clearly a good guy from how Dolores talks about him making his mom proud and how he's the only one who seems to notice at dinner that something is wrong with Mirabel. Even going so far as to ask her is everything is okay and not getting upset at any of the weird behavior during dinner, just letting it just roll off him. I think during the night when Mirabel was missing and her family searched, Mariano couldn't write his poetry like he does every night because he was worried about the Madrigals. He recognized that they are a huge part of the town, they are always helping and now they needed help. His mother seems influential and I think he went to her, said he wanted to get the whole town together and they then went to the merchant and the priest to hold a town meeting the next morning. By the time Mirabel was found the town had had the meeting, all went back home for tools and materials, then when the bells went off that Mirabel was found they were all ready en mass to go help with Mariano, mom, priest, and merchant right at the front leading the way.
I personally interpret the image of Mirabel hugging Isabella as the family as a whole reconciling, with the image taking the shape of Mirabel and Isabella because their bickering at the time of the vision was the biggest tension within the family, and may have represented the tension within the family as a whole. The hug would obviously symbolize the reconciliation of the tensions within the family. However, since the family didn’t reconcile in the course of events that we see in the movie, the house crumpled. It did not crumple because Mirabel hugged Isabella.
I don't think that Antonio was questioning if that was Bruno I think he was affirming to Camillo that it was Bruno.
I always thought after watch the movie several times that the vision was never ment for Mirabel.
Abuela was the one that asked Bruno to use his power to see why Mirabel didn’t get a door.
And when Mirabel is with Bruno to see the vision she follows the golden butterfly that is also representing Abuela. The butterfly goes to the image of Mirabel and Isabella hugging and…
If Abuela was the one watching the vision instead of Mirabel. The vision might have been trying to tell Abuela how she responds to the two sister hugging is what makes the house fall apart or stay standing.
I just like that version^ instead bc it idk just kinda worked for me when I say the movie a few times.
If Abuela was closer to Bruno, if she saw the vision and was closer to her family and tried to solve the case of Mirabel, she might have saved the family a lot soon. Instead of Mirabel feeling left out.
I also think Mirabel is in the vision to be begin with bc the House intended for Mirabel to take over the family “watcher of power” but it was Mirabel that lost out bc he Abuela lost sight of who the magic was for and that’s why the vision is ment for Abuela to fix not necessary Mirabel.
I always thought the hug in the vision was the one between Mirabel and Abuela. Remember, Bruno hadn't done a vision in years. He might have gotten it wrong.
Bruno did say that the vision was out of order. I think they both got tricked because Isa and her grandmother look a lot alike, at least young Alma and Isabela.
The scene played out 1 to 1 like the vision
She had to make up with Isabella to make up with abuela
I love these what if videos 😍 We need more!!
I guess like 2 things on my part to be pretty nit picky
1.) The vision I believe was always supposed to be about Mirabel hugging Abuela, but part of what you said does make sense since if the vision did show that the emotions wouldn't have been genuine between the characters, and the Isabella hug is still huge because it shows how caring and loving Mirabel would be as the matriarch of the family.
2.) Antonio wasn't playing dumb he was point out the obvious like "yeah I knew it's no big deal" he wasn't playing dumb there's a pretty big different between the too and changes a little about the theory the way you presented it.
I interpretted it as both "conclusions" to the vision were right. Cos we saw the cracks repairing when Mirabel hugged Isabella, so that crumbling was undone. But then Abuela came in and restarted the crumbling, which Mirabel decided not to pretend it was ok anymore.
I love all the what ifs you guys have shared with us. You should do a star wars what if. Maybe "what if Obi-Wan was the one who died on Naboo?"
Day 2 of asking, What if Dudley Dursley was a Wizard?
HP Folklore did that. You should watch his videos, they're awesome.
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
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Just spam the comments, don't bother waiting a week for each comment lol.
but we still don't have "What Changes in the Cursed Child if Harry is Place in Slytherin"
So, I didn't see it as two different outcomes, I saw it as Mirabel was the catalyst that caused Casita to crumble and fall. But she was also instrumental in getting her rebuilt. Sometimes things need to be broken down further before they can be repaired and rebuilt. And it was necessary for it to, all, fall apart for everyone to realize how broken they, already, were.
Touch w/intention (like a hug) = transferring magic in the Disney universe.
When Antonio says “that’s Bruno” he’s like confirming in a way or like the way he says it he’s not confused 12:01
Sending a virtual hug to the brothers for mental and emotional health and support
Wouldn't the power have been lost anyway. Luisa's powers started failing when the house started cracking, the cracking is what caused Mirabel to want to save the house, which led to finding Bruno and the hug. The gifts seems like they would've left long before Abuelas passing.
I’m pretty sure the prophecy was saying the hug would be the catalyst to saving the miracle. Like Mirabel running to the river and reconnecting with Abuela would never have been possible without the house falling. BUT connecting with Isa would only happen with the hug.
I think the house would’ve still fallen without the hug. Just not recoverable and may have given them an extra day.🧐🤓
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I prefer the idea that there wasn't actually two different outcomes to the vision, it's that the vision predicted both the house crumbling and being restored. The vision only showed a crumbled house and a whole house, with Mirabel as a deciding factor. A whole house doesn't nessicarily mean it never crumbled, it could just be showing the house's restoration, which would fit, since Mirabel's the one to not only ultimately bring the family back together, but also puts the finishing touch on the restored house. I feel like that makes more internally consistent sense considering none of Bruno's other visions had more than one outcome, and it's pretty clear that even Bruno himself can't perfectly read the vision.
It's amazing how much lore is in Disney films.
As a person who loves to dive deep into how small tweaks to canon changes things? I’m absolutely loving the what ifs you guys have been making.
Mirabel didn’t get the power because she’s the special one and the rest of the family is not
They needed the extra assistance to be exceptional mirabel was born it
It’s like being born a genius vs getting extra tutoring and help to get there
That’s always been my theory
Casita didn’t give her a power because she didn’t think mirabel needed the help
She believed mirabel could do anything she set her mind to on her own
1:43 - 2:01
I think we ought to call it "True Love's Embrace". That to me sounds about as equally enchanting sounding as "True Love's Kiss".
I personally think regardless on whether or not the hug happened the house would crumble. I think the original prophecy was whether or not it can be re built. With the hug it helps Mirebel and her family understand each other’s sides more and helps the moment with Mirable and Abuela understand each other more. The abuela needed to learn that she was being too hard with wanting things to be perfect and I think some of what Mirabel said in the conformation helped Abuela understand more of what she was doing wrong. If the hug didn’t happen the house would more likely be gone forever at some point. With the hug and house crumble it also helps the other family members be more accepting of Bruno’s return
I kinda always viewed brunos vision as being all one vision. Mirabel hugs Isabela, Casita collapses, the golden butterfly appears. All of it happened.
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I feel like the reason Mirabel didn’t get a gift is because after she touched the candle she wiped her dress therefore wiping the magic off
Am I the only one who realized that or did everyone notice that but nobody talks about it?
I always interpreted Antonio’s “That’s Bruno” at the end as him being a bit smug. It’s him telling Camilo, “yeah I know who that is, we’ve met,”
In Frozen the act of true love that saved Anna was actually Anna sacrificing herself for Elsa, not Elsa hugging her afterwards.
12:07 - Antonio wasn't playing dumb, he was being smug 'that's Bruno' as in I know more about Bruno than you do.
1. When Antonio says "That's Bruno?" I think he is being sarcastic, considering his brothers description of Bruno as 7 feet tall.
2. I believe the house was going to crumble no matter what, the family was constantly being pulled apart and the stress was making it impossible to survive. The hug, whether Isabella or Abuela, was meant to symbolize that is is up to Maribel to heal the family and bring them all together which would allow the house to be rebuilt and the magic to return.
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I thought it was Abuela in the prophecy but younger.
Cuz abuela looks exactly like Isabella when she was younger
AND when abuela and Maribel hug everything is ok
We don't talk about Bruno came on UA-cam and I ended up watching the movie the other day and really liking it Glad to see you super Carlin video coming so timely.
This is definitely been commented on already but I think Mirabelle not getting her power was to keep the family stronger.
the house was breaking already. i think it would break eventually but no idea how fast. candle was already flicking.
and i think Bruno's first vision show that Mirabel will both break and fix the house like it happened in the story.
But still cool theory!
I always thought Casita had to fall because the foundation of the magic it was built on was no longer good. It became all about serving the town and basically doing their chores because Abuela lost sight of why it was given to her in the first place.
It fell and was made with a new, stronger, foundation and the last part going in by Mirabel was what woke it back up and fully passed on the role of magic keeper.
See the song and subsequent hug with Isabella is the catalyst for the argument with Abuela. That argument is what causes the house to crumble because the person in the vision isn’t Isabella it’s abuela when she was young. Eveything with Isabella is just what triggered a fight that was always going to happen
I've always assumed Mirabel's power would be some kind of enhanced vision,maybe a mix of the ability to see through things and the ability to see things miles away? The seeing through things could work like an X-ray,linking to her mom's healing ability. It's also a sense based ability, similar to Delores' power and it's a better version of sight,not unlike the ability to see the future (Bruno can see the present,like everyone else,but also the future). Besides,as the person who saves the family from ruin,she can definitely see further that the average person and sees through people's disguises to reveal their true feelings
I think that the magic that keeps the miracle alive is the love of family. The hug in the propehcy isnt meaning an actual hug but for all bad relations to be fixed. But when abuela got mad at mirabel and blamed her, thats when the house crumbled.
Proposal: The theme with Bruno is "fear". Both from himself and the people around him. He always gets a vision and, out of fear, everyone makes an assumption as to what it means and stick with that assumption rather than revising it because revising would mean uncertainty, which is scary.
Same can be said for the Casita Visions. There never was an Option A or B. Bruno saw two visions but one future. It wasn't a timelines question it was just a warning that BOTH of those things are going to happen. But because everyone's always afraid, they chose to believe it was a choice instead.
The prophecy isn't Mirabel embracing Isabela... but rather Isabela (and everybody else in the family) embracing Mirabel. I'm not ignoring the idea that it needs to be mutual... but Mirabel has done nothing but "try to good" while being outcast by everyone who isn't her parents. The Casita crumbles, not because Mirabel was embraced by her sisters, but because the one person who ultimately needed to embrace Mirabel... rejected her (Abuela). Abuela's rejection... directly tied to the Casita's crumbling... is why the Casita crumbles. Each time one of her sister's genuinely embrace Mirabel (mutually), the Casita stops crumbling... but the immediate rejection/horror/confusion by Abuela, is what ultimately causes the Casita to crumble, because the "core" of the family (Abuela) is shattered. It isn't until the Casita crumbles, and everybody loses their gifts, that Abuela realizes the magnitude of her "hurt" and resentment. Once Abuela reconciles with Mirabel... and fully accepts her and embraces her... and the "true meaning" of the gift... the family... the "core" of the family, and the gift... is restored in full... because Mirabel is Embraced by the family, as a whole.
Mirabel... like Abuela... is the Keeper of the Flame.
I think what happened is that Mirabel and Isabela were the most disconnected in the family which is why the hug fixed the cracks. "Waiting on a Miracle" showed Mirabel feeling disconnected from her family. When the house first started crumbling, Mirabel went to go warn everyone which included her family. Right there was a connection and Casita was fine. During the argument with Abuela, there was a disconnection and Casita crumbled. So basically, if there's a disconnection anywhere in the family, Casita crumbles. The hug didn't break the miracle. Abuela did.
The house survived when Bruno left, meaning the family feeling whole keeps the house whole. Not the family actually being whole. Casita turns into a shell, serving as a house, but not a true home.
Maribel would likly leave, too. Either joining Bruno, or leaving the valley.
Casita crumbling is the cocoon. Abuela and Maribel reconciling is the transformation (butterfly). The magic had to be broken to make something even more beautiful.
1:48 I think it was the fact that Anna saved Elsa's life from Hans nearly stabbing her that saved her life, not the hug
What about Louisa? She was losing her powers already pre-hug so would she continue to lose it even if Casita doesn't crumble?
Does anyone actually pay attention to Antonio when he says "That's Bruno." He isn't asking a question. He is stating a fact. Look at how he looks at his brother and how he points at Bruno. It is very clear he knows who Bruno is and is saying so. Even if you don't pay attention to his body language the tone of his voice is very clear that he is making a statement and not that he is asking a question.
The whole point for the hug was interacting with each other. Everyone was being mechanical and doing their “function”. They each felt alone. When mirabel hugged her sister she reconnected with her “human touch”. If she didn’t hug her and the house stood up they would still crumble as a family. Hence your family is your home. That’s the whole point of the story. We can live next to a person and still feel alone. Bruno living in the walls was no different that Isabella living in her room. In fact, Bruno was less alone because he was aware of this and was able to interact with his family as he chose (seen in background of animation).
Maybe Antonio said “that’s Bruno.” And not “that’s Bruno?”
Here is something I thought of while listen to this. What if the dual outcomes are just one outcome? The house will crumble and be rebuilt (hence seeing it with and without cracks in succession) because of the embrace. Bruno always sees the future and never choices. The embrace was always going to happen as well as the house falling down and being rebuilt regardless of the characters choices.
I wish more people would recognize that something breaking is not always a bad thing. Sometimes something has to be broken in order for it to be built into something better…
I always saw the vision as showing a multi-step process. Everyone in the family needed to heal their relationship with Abuela and Bruno, and Isabella and Mirabel needed to heal their relationship as well. Mirabel needed to hug Isabella AND Abuela, but as Bruno said the scenes in the vision appeared out of order
I always thought that the prophecy wasn't two outcomes...but two steps. The house needed to crumble to be whole. Also Antonio's "that's Bruno!" Is a tease at his confused brother (he has a smirk)
That “Isabela!” During the intro was genius 😂 totally caught me off guard I burst out loud laughing.
Possible what if idea? What if Buzz never returned after being thrown out the window.
Wasn’t it Anna’s act of sacrifice to save the sister she loves the “Act of True Love” that thawed her out? Not Elsa’s hug?
Freaking finally! Scrolled so far to see if anyone else saw the inaccuracy
@@Georgiana216 is that what people actually think saved her?
I just wanted to say this much: that scene where Antonio says "That's Bruno", I don't think he's asking a question. I think he's being cheeky and pointing out "that's Bruno" to his brother.
I love these alternative reality theories. They're always amazing
The hug of Isabella could have also been more of a hint than a direct 'this is gonna happen' type thing. The hint was to have compassion for each other. It's only when mirabel sympathizes and understands her sister. It is the last thing that was needed to open her eyes to what the true problem was.
Just love the fact that this is in the "What If Harry Was In Slytherin" playlist
This just makes me think the magic of the Encanto is alive, because things that are alive will act to perverse their own existence
Since I've seen this movie some weeks ago, I've been obsessed with it. Between the amazing music, gorgeous visuals and heartwarming story, this has to be my favorite Disney movie (maybe excluding Pixar, not sure about that).
As for the prophecy, I think that it doesn't actually show multiple scenarios. That's only what Bruno thinks it means because he isn't aware of the context. The prophecy is out of order. First comes the hug with Isabela, which is the catalyst of all family drama which previously everyone still kept mostly to themselves, to come out. The house breaks and the magic is lost. But then comes the butterfly. Like the caterpillar leaving its cocoon as a beautiful butterfly, with this new mutual understanding, there's a new foundation for a healthier family dynamic, which has to be built over time, just like the house. That's when the fixed house, which stands for the fixed family, comes in.
I completely agree with your alternate scenario though. Without the hug and following breaking of the house, magic and family, I believe everyone would get more miserable with time, which would show in the magic getting weaker and weaker. Eventually, the magic would die with Abuela once she passes away. Without her, the family would not stick together, and just like the previous isolation of Bruno from everyone else, some might completely isolate from each other by that point. Luckily, through breaking and rebuilding the family, this scenario doesn't play out.
i loved this keep up the good work!
I always thought mirabel’s door ceremony didn’t fail. She sees the door break down, she sees how the house is going to fail, and she has been bestowed with the critical thinking skills and love for her family to fix it in the future. It’s not a physical gift, it’s not visible, but it’s predestined in the same way
I always took it as a misinterpretation of the prophecy, that the house was ALWAYS going to crumble, but that it was also ALWAYS going to be rebuilt and survive perfectly. To me it wasn't an "either or" situation, but a "both will occur" situation
I always interpreted Brunos vision as mirabel hugging a younger abuela. The viewer just doesn’t understand that until they hug near the water. And then they see the butterfly which only further cemented that the vision was actually abuela. I think all along she just needed to remember her younger self at the time she first received the magic