Film Theory: Encanto, The Madrigal Family SECRET!
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By the end of Encanto, we see Dolores united with her prince charming - or at least that is what it seems like from the outside. Theorists, when watching Encanto for the 100th time, my mind started thinking a little too hard about the whole Madrigal family and their magical, secluded town. Let's just say MAYBE they should hold off on the wedding for a while...
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Credits:
Writers: Matthew Patrick and Mark Hofmeyer
Editors: Forrest Lee and Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi
Assistant Editor: Caitie Turner (viridianrosette)
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
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A lot of people probably think you're exaggerating when you say you've seen the movie 50+ times with your kid, but as a parent I want to assure y'all that it's not an exaggeration. When a kid gets hooked they may watch a movie 2-5 times a day. Two weeks in and you've had it in the background 59+ times.
And I specifically remember binging Finding Nemo and The Lion King all day as a kid. Right as the credits came up, I asked my mom to rewind.
@@JustAnthon Yeah, exactly! I used to watch the first Toy Story movie on a tiny TV in me and my siblings room on VHS multiple times a day when I was a toddler.
I was hooked on this dinosaur movie with a triceratop, I can't remember the name of it (if you know it please tell me) it had "realistic" CGI with a voice over, and there was this love triangle with mutual pining...a weakling verse alpha going on, and the main pro had a hole in his head crown thing. I would watch it over and over and I loved every minute of it 😭
Edit: thank you for those to told me the movie, went to check out the trailer and honestly I've seen animal voice overs on Vine (rip) that was better
As a kid I would just replay mulan over an over and over again, and any time movies are brought up my parents just shove in and mention mulan...
Yeah, I remember that when I was younger (6-7) I just put movies over and over again like I could watch tangled 20 times in a week
That’s fair but it’s revealed in the art book that Augustine is from outside the encanto so chances are there’s a trickle of people coming in
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I love the fact that we're still getting theories about this movie because Matt is being forced to watch it against his will at the command of a toddler.
MatPat Jr.: 'We watch Encanto.'
MatPat: 'But we've already watched it today, twice!'
MPJr.: 'WE WATCH ENCANTO NOW!'
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The main problem with the theory is that it’s been confirmed that people have come in from outside the village. Also, there were plenty of people living there even initially that inbreeding wouldn’t happen in just 50 years, which really isn’t that long when it comes to this topic.
those are my exact thoughts lol
Exactly.
Yeah but the writers confirmed it
@@braidensmack5110 they confirmed that people have come from outside the town. and even if no one did, there's no reason to believe inbreeding happened in only 50 years. that's hardly any time to have passed
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Kinda impressive how MatPat was able to take a movie like Encanto and managed to conclude that everyone was simply a result of methodically planned out inbreeding.
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Here before the many comments of how "you're everywhere"
Mirable: * is getting scolded for lying *
Hernando: * just finished his spackle speed run * * panicking silently*
“Maybe I should have let that 1 crack slip”
"Spackle speed run" is such an underrated comment. Thank you lol
Pft XD
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Hernando would not panic, he is afraid of NOTHING
This theory assumes the original 25 couples were not related, but why wouldn't you escape with your sisters, brothers, cousins and their partners
probably to give the best case scenario, that and to probably eliminate rogue elements that can't be qualified with any measure of exactness.
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"and their partners" its right there, you could have the partners carry children giving some level of diversity
that makes perfect sense which is why I don't thinnk the Encanto is completly isolated, yes a part of the population clearly came from the same place, but a part of it didn't and I could prove it using historical and cultural references in the movie
The 50 rule is on an already isolated community. It's shown in the movie that the village is very genetically diverse with a wide range of skin and hair types, and body shapes. The village they originated from was probably one that had excellent trade and population movement
Latino families are very diverse
That would make sense considering how easy it was to be plundered and raised.
Is more than just the physical characteristics, the way people dress, the food, the music its from all over the place in Colombia.
@@XiELEd4377r u talking abt how they’re descended from natives, Africans and Europeans? Cuz we can see that Felix and his side of the family have more African descent while Mirabel’s dad and Pepa look more European
@@skyrrmish6207 yup
"We haven't stopped" is the struggle of a parent, good luck with the rest of the movie binge watching Mat
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@@unkirbyjosuke1904 yeah a lot
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Regarding the road and the bridge, my interpretation is that Luisa is re-arranging the town for the wedding. That's why she's moving the church to a more central location, that's why she's diverting the river and moving the bridge because she diverted the river and now it flows on a new path, thus needed her to move the existing bridge to a new location.
I bet you're right!
That's what I thought!
That makes an absurd amount of sense but also WHY GO THROUGH ALL THAT EFFORT? These people are waaaaaay too reliant on Luisa's strength. Leave the church and the river where they are, and if it is difficult to access for some people, maybe have Luisa carry them instead of having her move entire buildings???
@@LunaWitcherArt Because she's strong and able to do it. Her story was about how she holds so much pressure and is responsible for doing such things. They probably don't think about how overly complicated the solution is. They probably just know she could do it easily and is happy to do whatever she can for the village.
I love this theory and hate that I can't believe it :(. But my reasoning that it can't be true is that even though everybody *knows* that Isabela and Mariano are set to be married, Mariano hasn't actually asked Isabela at that point. It would be super presumptuous to prepare for a wedding before the proposal has happened and was accepted and it's not like Luisa was subtle about what she was doing. I don't think Alma would have allowed it because it would have made the family lose face because of the presumptuousness.
1:40 Casita fixed itself. Casita's "health" is determined by the general mental/emotional state of Abuela/Mirabel, so, I don't really know exactly what counts as "bad enough mental health for Casita to be cracking" vs "good enough mental health for Casita to be cracking," but I think maybe just the fact that Mirabel was, at that point, distracted by the cracks rather than focusing on her internal depression (or whatever you want to call it) may have been sufficient for the cracks to go away.
But hey, that's just a theory. A film theory!
Ironic: Mirabel panicking about the cracks made them disappear.
Really, even assuming Bruno managed to seal up all the cracks in walls and floors seamlessly, and clean up the cieling tiles (which is a big stretch) there's no way he could repair the staircase.
heard someone else theorize that the cracks healed themselves because of how Mirabel felt when Abuela believed her at first about the cracks
@@novakitty1619 Oh wow. That kinda makes sense. That would be peak irony right there 😬
Aaaaaaaaaaand CUT!
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50 years is not enough time for inbreeding to become a problem especially when a whole village is concerned unless they specifically tried to “keep it in the family” which i surely doubt is the case.
Unless Camilo Madrigal decides to get all 'Luther Pendragon' on people
One thing I heard is that Encanto’s plot, at least one of the early drafts, was originally going to be a “journey” set plot were the main cast would leave Encanto and into the modern world. With a show confirmed to be in the making, I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if that original plot would be the basis for it, and if it is, it would be a solution to this issue.
A SHOW IS COMFIRMED??
So entering and leaving is possible, just really hard and there's like no incentive to do so.
On a random note, I'm now just mentally hearing MatPat singing "We Don't Talk About Bruno" while walking around the house planning his theories for Encanto. That just lives rent free in my head now, especially cuz MatPat's voice is *amazing.*
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Well he was a theater kid so it makes sense!
I have to hear him sing it now...
9:36 He's also wearing glasses, which is a trait that she cannot change. It seems more like she can undo trauma done to a body, rather than "heal every ailment a body is currently experiencing"
I think it's confirmed in her Disney wiki that she can cure Mirabel's need for glasses but doesn't because she doesn't think it's something that needs to be cured :)
@@sarahframpton3831 as someone who’s parents are both doctors I can confirm that they’ll be very pissed if they hear that
@@sarahframpton3831 or it could be that mirabel just likes wearing glasses.
The way this theory gets destroyed easily when you remembered that AUGUSTINE WAS AN OUTSIDER and used to live in a city
What about Felix?
@RedRan6er what about Pedro? Pedro was with Alma but he dies right after the candle makes the Castita. So does that count?
Now just to make people uncomfortable, I want to do this:
“Your kids are beautiful!”
“Thanks! They’re outbred.”
No you’re out of bread 🍞 🥖
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@Darius Bostic any evidence for that?
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The cracks were real but heal when the family bands together. When Mirabel warned the family of the cracks and they all came running in support, it fixed. We see it do exactly that, in real time, when Isabel embraces Mirabel in front of a crack in Cassita.
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@Darius Bostic bruh srsly? whats wrong with other religions? why do you want everyone to be christain?
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Jared Bush: Let’s make the characters in a isolated town so we don’t get strange questions
MatPat: Are the Madrigals Inbreeding ???
Jared Bush: Oh shi-
It was confirmed on Twitter that all of their extended families live in Casita, they just didn't want to animate their entire family, so they just stuck to the main ones
Castia is the magical house. Are you sure you dont mean the Encanto?
The only problem with this theory is that there’s 2 characters in the movie who speak about coming from out of town
There's Agustín... And who's the other one?
@@EndUA-camShorts_ in the song “the family madrigal” specifically the part where the abuela sings
They are building a home for a new woman who has moved into town
And abuela is singing about how the success of the town is making it grow and more people moving in
Also in that same song Dolores is seen out of town “hearing the voices from miles away”
@@EndUA-camShorts_ Felíx
Plus, the people who made the movie have stated that apparently, Alma only set up Isabella's marriage. She didn't do anything about Julieta marrying Agustin or Pepa marrying her husband.
@@MaryJaneBluntkevinalvizurez None of that proves anything. Of course they have to build more houses. The community is growing, not because people from the outside are moving in, but because people are growing up and forming their own families. Also, people can obviously leave the town, they just don't leave the Encanto.
I love how mat pat is one of the nicest people ever and he starts with topics like inbreeding and cannibalism
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Wait you measn this isn't a normal conversation topic?
A lot of nice people like strong/violent/taboo subjects in fictional media because that doesn't affect their personality at all. MatPat is a clear example of that. He's the sweetest and nicest guy, and he loves horror media.
And Markiplier’s taste in Pokémon
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It was confirmed Julieta's gift can even heal mirbel's vision but she chooses not to seeing how its something she doesn't need to "cure so that maybe mean she can heal genetic diseases too. by jared bush
2:21 Where did those flowers come from? Did they just spawn in rootless, did they come from behind?
DID THEY GROW OUT OF HER FREAKING CRANIUM?!?
Bridge in middle of road explanation theory: they had a boat too tall to go under the bridge, so Luisa picked up the bridge, puts it on the road off to the side (in a way that people can still walk over it so as to not cause a roadblock) then after the bridge passes and mirabel walks up into it, Luisa puts it back
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Or, they build the bridges in town where it's easier then have the super strong girl put it where it needs to be
@@mastereon895 that's what I was thinking
....except that it's a stream. What person is going to use a boat on a stream?
@DAILY FAMILY GUY VIDEOS no one cares
Mirabel, her sisters and cousins are the first generation of their family to be born within the Encanto. Presumably, there have only been one or two generations for other families in the village. Another comment mentioned how one of her family members (who married into the family) came from outside the village. But it couldn't hurt to have some more generic diversity lol
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@@RoofusTheRoofus idk. I keep reporting them and blocking them.
right? there was at MOST two generations born within the encanto, brunos generation, born just before, or just after the encantos creation, and mirabel's generation, born from those of bruno's generation. there is 100% something to say about what would of happened if the encanto hadnt opened up though., like imagine if the mountain didnt crack, another generation or two and matpat might of had a point
I feel like Senkos in Dr. Stones inbreeding explanation makes sense no one will be related after certain point.
Video idea: Are the animals in Antonio's room alive?
this has been bothering me since I ever watched this movie because some of the animals come from the outside but others like his jaguar don't and we don't see them when the magic is dead
I’d watch that
Dude im from Colombia and we had to read 100 years of solity (sorry if i fail spelling in english) twice in highschool, they made us really understand metaphors and transfond of the story, for me this movie is trying to show the cute aspects of the book, but the book is mostly about inbreeding and charging with your familys sins, it gets really wierd after rewatching the movie a lot and reading the book couple of times.
Hope Mirabel dont have a pig tail tbh
I feel like when casita cracks the FIRST time…. It’s a premonition. She has no “powers” however I feel like she definitely had a whole connection to casita no one else had. Casita granted her the vision of the casita damaged, Not to mention her glasses are green and Bruno’s color theme is green and his color is associated with the visions he has. But that’s just a theory lmao
Her actual power is her grandmother's power, the house and the encanto itself. Her grandmother just hasn't gone into retirement. There is a bit of a secondary story about older generations not allowing the younger ones to flourish as individuals. The main one obviously being generational perfectionism just like turning red.
But the cut in her hand was real.
That's just a theory, a EMMLES THEORY
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I love how much Matpat goes and puts lots of his time in just one video.
I see these types of comments in every matpat video and they always get tons of like get original
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clearly not enough time to research the cultural melting point that is the Encanto with cultural easter eggs from all over Colombia and that the entire population coming from a single village makes no sense.
@@patax144 The best case scenario already assumes that the original group is a genetically diverse as possible so I don’t see your point.
I love how most of these theories aren't canon but with his way of explaining it he makes it sound like it was canon
I'm sorry, what? It's specifically stated in the movie people are trickling in. They even obviously have different genetic traits. The tweet you posted in 3:10 only states they family lives there, and THEY haven't left, not that no one has come in. Even if no one is coming in, a population of 50 is all that's needed to prevent inbreeding, and 500 will prevent genetic drift.
About the first cracks: they reflect a broken home due to the members being treated as magical tools more than actual family. The moment following it Alma listened to her granddaughter and was willing to solve the problem she saw - that moment of trust made the cracks shallower enough to not be visible anymore for the moment
Also it is revealed that there ARE people that come from out of town. Like, you do realize roads are still a thing in this timeline, right? Or you could just...hike the mountains. Which yes, is a lot of walking. But not impossible. Or Luisa could move them, which she says she can do in Surface Pressure. Heck, the kids didn't even know who the family was at first, which hints that they and their family aren't originally from there. I mean look at how diverse that place is
The kids didn't know about the family because they haven't been to a ceremony yet. They knew *about* the family but didn't know names or powers yet as they're too young. Their parents probably told them that day being like, "We're gonna go watch a kid gain powers. It's called a gift." That's why they ask about Antonio's gift.
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Technically they are only 1 generation at-least for the Madrigals, seeing your counting Alma and the Triplets who were born before the Encanto was created, and the Grandkids are the first generation born in the Encanto area, as for the rest of the village thats its own thing... There were some adults but also some children aswell in the group when travelling.
I randomly love the idea that your kid will once look these videos up and sees his childhood destroyed by its own dad. :D
Film theory idea: The tv show “A Series of Unfortunate Events”. It is tremendously packed with lore, and although it isn’t insanely popular like some of the shows you make theories on, it is so stuffed with lore.
I second this, one of the best shows I’ve ever watched
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It was originally a book series
I would watch that. Immediately.
Finally another encanto theory …. Oh ….. well I wasn’t expecting that.
It was much worse than I thought of this theory
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I think the cracks in the beginning were because the rest of the family didn't include Mirabel in the photo. The family was divided, but when she mentioned it, they paid attention to her, so the house repaired itself.
My favorite theory for Encanto is that Mirabel did get a gift, it was to form the world around her. At first when she got her gift she was worried she didn’t get one so she thought about it so it happened. Like how in the part where Casita cracks, she was afraid of that happening so it did. When everyone came out of the ceremony in Antonio’s room she was afraid that no one would believe her thought it might of been her imagination so no one believed her.
Her gift is empathy and helping her family through their mental health issues.
Abuela: sings a whole verse in The Family Madrigal
Also Abuela: *Mirabel! What are you doing?*
Regarding the bridge, Luisa was later told after it was revealed that Mariano wanted five babies from Isabela to re-route the river. But it looks like she was already in the process of doing that during the song, since she's arranging everything else in the town for a wedding. Or, she just put that bridge there on purpose from its original spot on the river just to continue on the song as Mirabel made her way to the Casita
Yeah.
That makes a lot of sense
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What are doing not helping getting ready and helping out?
Abuela Alma was helping people while she was singing, so...
They built the bridge in the middle of the street because they knew that luisa could easily move it
I was never under the impression that no one could get in or out. The way Bruno said it came across as an excuse and the statement that their families are all in the village could have just meant that Augustine and Felix moved to the Encanto with their families.
Though as I say that it occurs to me that if the mountains weren't a one way thing it wouldn't serve as much in the way of protection.
And thus my headcannon is secret/magical exit/entrance.
Well, historically, people have difficulty moving large armies over mountain ranges, so it would actually be a VERY effective defense method. Besides, we see that the enemy soldiers are riding horses and using primitive guns, so they probably believe in witchcraft. The sight of a bunch of mountains popping out of thin air after a cloaked woman places a candle on the ground would probably be enough to ward them away. The tiny amount of people moving in in are probably very adventurous people that aren't afraid of witchcraft.
Jared Bush has said that it's not impossible to get in or out of the Encanto, it's just very difficult. This suggests that the Encanto can only be found by those who genuinely need it.
@@AtarahDerek That is a *huge* stretch but it does confirm that people could have been coming in so I'll take it.
"No diving in today my friends, this gene pool is shallow" The writing on this dude, truly phenomenal, great job Mat!
I absolutely LOVE how he researches things for the sake of a movie theory lol
And it's awesome
This same logic should be applied to Moana. I was just rewatching it when I noticed how small and completely isolated her island is. And if you consider that her ancestors stopped traveling to different lands around the same time that Maui stole the heart, it's been about 1,000 years of the same people staying place.
That's a WAY more concerning scenario than 3 generations (literally only 50 years)
Inbreeding doesn't matter if it's your third or even your second cousin. Inbreeding isn't even a big deal as long as their not immediate family actually. It's not morally correct but the chances of illnesses caused by inbreeding are very rare anything above second cousin. So in reality it's not that big of a deal as long as it isn't too close. Fun fact, Women over 40 having children is more dangerous than cousins having children, the more you know.
@@doctorblackhole6982 I'm not entirely sure about that, but even if that is the case, a small population with some mortality issues (which will decrease the diversity in the gene pool) May lead to some direct genetic mixing which will lead to some inbreeding that is more closer
@@duckduck5728 Just search it up, even first cousins are not usually dangerous, and it does not pose that great of a risk, their's multiple articles that support this, and second cousins have a very small risk. In all it's just morally wrong depending on the person, but not biologically wrong. As long as they make sure their not marrying anyone closer than their second cousin, and track families then the Encanto is fine.
@@doctorblackhole6982 I am curious but i don't wanna search 'is having a baby with your cousin safe'
On the cracks appearing the first time: there’s a theory that Mirabel is somehow intricately linked to the magic, hence why she never got a door till the end of the movie.
To support this, think about what took place shortly before the cracks appeared the first time: Mirabel feeling hopeless, shown by the line “am I too late for a miracle?” At the end of her song.
This theme of Mirabel losing hope being tied to the cracks is shown again when Abuella starts verbally attacking Mirabel later and even during the initial dinner scene too, as Mirabel seems to be struggling to hold on to having hope but once Abuella, who always assumes Mirabel is useless or in the way due to her not having a gift, sees the prophecy, her mind automatically went to feeling dejected and hopeless.
Mirabel is the heart of the family like her Grandmother was , she is her grandmother's replacement.
I agree. She had some magic all along.
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They've only been in the Encanto long enough for *one* new generations to be born. Two if you figure there might be some teen pregnancy and pregnant women fleeing with them when their home village was raided. There's an entire village of at least 100 different families and the writers said that people do come in to the Encanto from the outside. Mirabel's dad comes from outside the Encanto. Plus the walls came down at the end of the movie and did not repair just because the magic returned. They have options. Inbreeding doesn't seem like one of them.
What gets me is how the kids at the beginning didn't know Mirabel's "lack of gift". I'm fairly certain people in the village talk, or at least tell their kids the stories....I know, I know it's for us, the audience, to learn but come on.
Well kids probably didn't belive it and wanted to know it from Mirabelle herself.
I assumed maybe they moved into town recently
Well the Madrigal kids get their gift at ~5 years old, and Mirabel is 15 during the movie so some kids wouldn't have the memory of it personally/may not have been alive yet, and so maybe many of them just don't care about the specifics of the magical family until another ceremony is coming up.
Idk, I just know when I was a kid I definitely only cared about my dog and my books and my games. The adults around me could be discussing the actual End of Times and I might not have cared.
But also exposition has to exposition I suppose...
@@RiannaPeterson Nobody has left the town or came into the town
@@krisw9526 they mentioned someone moving in at one point
Some people: wow what a great kids movie that talks about some family problems but in the end everything becomes great!
MatPat while watching Encanto with his 3 year old family member: *hold my apple juice*
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I do want to mention that even tho there are 25 *predicted* couples, there's still a solid possibility of people getting with *other* members of the village via divorce, polyamory, cheating, you name it.
Dude... I remenber reading about a town were if you have a crush you have to talk to your older family before pursuing anything because adultery was so common it was a need to avoid banging your half sibling
@@debymello4756 That is... slightly disturbing.
It was stated pretty clearly in the movie that there ARE outsiders coming in and settling in the Encanto. Julietta married a man from the city. There was even going to be a love interest for Isabella that comes from outside the Encanto. Sorry y'all, unlike the last one you definitely missed with this.
Concept art counts as cannon now?
@@Naharu. Did I say those words? I don't see where I said those words lol. I made my point with Mirabel's father, and added the extra tid-bit of interesting info about Isabella for emphasis.
The point being: people are obviously making their way in to the Encanto.
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And culturally speaking the Encanto inhabitants feature all kinds of Colombian costumes from through out the country, the madrigals, on Julietas side appear to be from the mountain region, Peppa's side of the family seems to be more from the coasts probably the Pacific coast based on the voice actors.
No, he missed the other one, just not as bad as this one.
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I don't know if this would've made things worse, but I remember that towards the end of "The Family Madrigal" song, while Mirabel is trying to deflect the kids asking about her gift, she runs into Mariano and basically begs him to marry Isabella. With one of her lines in that split moment being: "My sister, you can have her."
Hey MatPat! The first cracks scene is real, but because Mirabell is likely the connecting agent between Casita and the Miracle, when Mirabell sees the first cracks, nd informs her family, she feels inportant and apart of her family, thus removing the cracks.
Idk, found this theory somewhere, and edited it to my liking. Have fun with it!
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Yooo that actually makes sense
Wow that's impressive.
Yeah, my assumption is that the cracks form because she wasnt included in the picture, which led to the song, and thus finding the cracks. Healing once she pulls their attention back.
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The whole point of Luisa is that they keep using her and her powers for trivial things. She is willing to help but is taken advantage of. Rather than build the bridge high enough to let traffic under it, they probably make her move it off and put it back everytime a boat needs to pass under it.
Also her power is probably tactokinesis... not simple super strength. While she can lift things, she is somehow impossibly gentle. With simple superstrength her feats would cause things to crumble and break but that is the opposite of Luisa's actual personality.
I read One Hundred Years of Solitude last year because I heard about it through this video. It has become one of my favorite books, and I strongly recommend it.
This has nothing to do with this theory but I’ve been thinking about my own theory:
My theory was that maybe Mirabel just wasn’t a Madrigal at all biologically… it’s been said that Augustin was from out of town and Abuela didn’t immediately like him and it took a while for her to finally accept him, then in the movie Mirabel says in the opening song “My dad married Julieta” which it might just be to make the song sound better OR it’s because Julieta isn’t her biological mom, since she’s the youngest he couldn’t have had her before he met Julieta but maybe he had an affair, she forgave him but they kept it from the rest of the family, Abuela had a hard time accepting him already so they knew if they told the family, there’s no way Augustin and maybe even Mirabel could live with them anymore so they lied about it and kept Mirabel.
One thing I found weird was why Julieta treated Mirabel almost better than her other children, I can up with this: Julieta feels bad for Mirabel because she knows why she doesn’t have powers but she kept it a secret from her, her whole life and let her feel “not special”
The only other thing I don’t really have an explanation for is how Mirabel knew Julieta wasn’t her biological mom? My best guess for that is maybe it was to make the doing sound better but she didn’t know it was actually true, kinda like a subconscious thing? Idk, that one’s more difficult to come up with an explanation for
@@_Egon I know, it’s a stretch and it’s probably just so the song would flow better but it’s interesting to think about
One big flaw in this theory: despite starting with so few people they started with large amounts of diversity. Naturally, there would of been a mix of Native and Spanish genetics, and then there was also African genetic citizens as well. This makes it so there are large amounts of dominant genes to start that would combat any defective recessive.
This also might be the reason for the ununiform studies for what a stable gene pool would need to be to start. Start with a bunch of similar people the you'll need to start with more, but if you have a heavily diverse pop you can start with less. And the Encanto starts with a fairly diverse population.
So, you might need to get Austin back on the program to get more variables in there to included the amount of diversity that 3 genetic regions could have.
Also, this would actually be a break through in considering a unifying formula to genetic diversity of small populations. So, definitely a worth while goal if nothing else. And maybe a revisit to other movies with small and/or devastated populations like Raya, Dragon's, and even Brave (considering the lack of diversity of those small populations)... Oh god, Hiccup is inbred...
Where are you getting that there is African genetics in the Encanto? I don't think it's ever stated in the movie
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@@Level2Sniper_ Well, Africans, as part of the slave trade, were being transported to both North and South America around the same time Europeans were colonizing the continents. Thus, it's not difficult to find people with African ancestry in South American people. (In fact, it might be difficult to find people WITHOUT African ancestry.)
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Dude went as far as making a simulation! That's dedication!
Considering that Austin has split from the Theory family to do his own thing, I still hope that you'll be able to negotiate friendly collaborations sometime in the future. Honestly, Austin is who brought me into the Theory-verse, and I miss hearing his voice.
He does still make his own videos, in case you werent aware.
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I’ve been forced to listen to the entire soundtrack of this movie so many times that I hear “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” in my nightmares 😅
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My two younger siblings used to sing it ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I wanted to drive a nail though my skull.
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another example of inbreeding in isolated communities is Martha’s vineyard. the original settlers were from a small village in england that kept inbreeding. this resulted in a recessive gene for deafness being extremely common to the point where around the 1800s 1/155 people on the vineyard were deaf and in isolated pockets as many as 25%. it’s actually an interesting case study for the social model of disability because deaf people on the island weren’t considered disabled because everyone knew sign language.
They were considered disabled. It's just that they considered their disability normal
Who knows Adam and Eve?
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl actually it's rude to call them disabled. You have to call them limited at hearing, or deaf
@@beargreen1 the phrase is HOH or "heard of hearing".
Being "capital D" Deaf is about a common culture, language (ASL/BSL), traditions, and history as well as a common need.
i have an Enconto theory, what if Mirabell and Alma got a gift but we had just ignored it. In the movie after Antonio had gotten his gift Mirabell had STOPED TIME(or at least slowed it down) and at the end of the movie Alma had TELEPORTED Mirabell INTO A FLASH BACK. And everyone had skipped over those details probably thinking "oh ok, well thats normal"
Im on 3:46 and as soon as i looked at the cover and heard inbreeding things poeced together
This makes "we dont talk about bruno" a whole lot weirder...
Edit: I am talking about the wedding scene, and the 5 babies scene outside of the song LOL
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Dolores was lying because she liked that guy.
I remember somewhere people talking about how the two husbands were actually from outside the wall, so its not a matter of no one coming in. It's just very very hard to get in. But I would love to see how everyone learns about tech beyond the mountains now. lol
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They have not been there long enough and there was enough people fleeing the village that I think that it hasn’t happened.
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It's also safe to assume that they weren't the only village to flee, it's also possible that the Encanto let in others who were fleeing after it was created (it is magic so I don't see why it wouldn't)
This reminds me, I've been re-thinking your "Dolores being evil" thing from a while ago and I think there's 1 thing that throws a wrench in it. Dolores' little squeaks. In a supercut video of her doing those cute little squeaks someone in the comment section said that that is something some Colombian people do when at a state of unease. Knowing that, think about each time Dolores squeaked. 1st time was telling those kids that Mirabel doesn't have a gift which is a touchy subject, 2nd time is her telling Mirabel about Luisas' twitchy eye which involves the magic fading out, an even more touchy subject. Times 3 and 4 both happen when she over hears that Mirabel found Brunos' lost vision, what it's about and her and Agustin saying to keep it on the down low. On the one hand she can't say anything about Bruno because of her mom Pepa holding a salty grudge on the guy for causing her wedding to become a mess. On the other hand Dolores is Almas' little stool pigeon and has to tell her everything of major importance. Then there's the long drawn out squeal she dose during the dinner with her being all "I must say something" and Mirabel staring at her all "Don't you bloody dare". Basically Dolores might've been under the heel of keeping up appearances like everyone else.
There's another video goes over Dolores's behavior the interprets her character's behavior differently. Its Dolores Madrigal - Character Analysis.
I love at the the end when he says “and CUT”
Also when he’s talking about the kings and queens, I like when he says the word “Pure”
0:25 very proud of myself for lifting donkey
9:40 Something else to consider is how Julieta can heal Agustin & Mirabel's injuries, but they still need glasses
I didn’t think about that
It was stated that she has the power to heal their eyesight, but Julieta doesn't want or feel the need to do that.
Because the glasses are usually not a disease in itself. The lenses are not cracked or damaged, usually they just focus the light not smack dab on the fovea of the retina. Thus they are not actually damaged.
Is it actually glasses with lenses or just decorative glasses?
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Film Theory: Mirabell actually did get a gift, time manipulation, and we see it used many times throughout the film.
Ikr that's what I thought I love that theory 😊
I mean, that would also have some plausibility considering her gift door - which we can assume appeared FOR the ceremony - basically reversed itself. It's like she rewound the door's arrival. I'm not sure how that would work considering everybody else also saw that happen, but then again it's expected that the town learns what each gift is, so I imagine that Mirabel's gifting ceremony was the one time anybody ever got to see her power in action.
Yes, you can see from the only other gift ceremony shown: after he touches the door, the animals come to him and talk to him in a demonstration of his powers. The reversal of her door after touching it was the demonstration of her power, but the act was misunderstood.
Yeah she paused time in waiting on a miracle
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Theory challenge for my favorite film theory channel! I always thought it would’ve been cool to see the Madrigal kids interact with their paternal residents from the village (Felix & Augustine’s families if they had any there). Is there a possibility you could find some potential candidates in the background?
The first minute of this is painfully relatable. I have a sister 11 years younger than me, and that means she’s had MANY movie obsessions I’ve had to power through. You really do start trying to appreciate and notice details in the animation and design once you’ve heard the same lines 100 times
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My headcanon is that when Mirabel saw the cracks Bruno started patching up the wall cracks and this gesture is what allows casita to magically fix the remaining cracks. Casita was relieved that Bruno was helping the family so that temporarily strengthened the magic.
yea but the cracks on the inside are just metaphors for Mirabel feeling broken on the inside. Casita is meant to represent Mirabel's mental state. The cracks on the outside are metaphors for the family breaking. Mirabel was the first one in the family to notice the cracks within everyone's relationships in the family....
The cracks were real they were an extension of meribel feeling like she wasn’t a part of the family for the first time and her “power” as the “patron” effected the house when she tells everyone what has happened she forgets those feeling and the damage is restored.
Patron in the concept of warlocks as she is the next replacement for the candle so too is she tied to the magic of the house.
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Film Theory idea: Which Madrigal gift help the family most?
7:09 who is stalking this poor soul
This actually works really well with my analysis that the breaking point for the house WAS the marriage, because Isa didn't love Mariano and Casita would not stand for the next generation of Madrigals to be raised in a loveless marriage. It had to be arranged carefully to hold off inbreeding, but it wouldn't be an emotionally healthy environment for children; so Casita just hit reboot on the whole thing to prevent generational disaster.
And don’t forget Mirabel was alone and away from the party when the cracks first started. Another breaking point could be Mirabel Being left out.
1:13 she doesnt pick the bridge, that just a random piece of stones., the question is.... was she lying on the floor, with that stones on top of her, waiting for mirabel?
As far as the cracks go, Casita cracks because Mirabelle feels like she's not part of the family and then she runs to the bedroom and they rally around her and believe her and for that second the family isn't broken and casita fixed itself. I'm pretty sure there are small cracks that Bruno has been fixing all along, but the two big cracks are when Mirabelle doesn't feel like she's part of the family, and when she and abuela are arguing and everything falls apart.
7:20 it crazes me that he watched this enough to know how many people are in the town
You forget to mention the Amish in America when talking about close relations. There have been studies done on them and the odd genetic quirks and diseases that afflict them. I also remember reading about a family in the Appalachian mountains that was so inbred that their skin developed an odd blue pigmentation.
another example is the deaf population in martha’s vineyard in the 1700. it’s an island and the people moved from an already inbred tiny village in england and few new people moved there till the 1900s. i think it was like 1/25 people were deaf on the island. it was so common that everyone just knew how to sign and we’re unfazed by deafness
I read 100 years for school, and I never put together the similarities to Encanto. Mind blown. (very weird book, had to keep a google doc of all the characters cause there’s so many and they all have the same name basically)
Someone else did a video on the influence of said book on the makings of the movie. Its either titled Encanto magical realism or the magic of encanto. I remember there being a picture the book for the video clip. If you find that video it goes more into detail with the connections.
I usually love all of matpats theories but his Encanto theory just really is the mark. I hope we get better ones when the Encanto show releases on disney+
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Welcome back Matpat. I was highly looking forward to more of my favourite things being ruined
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It takes 3 generations to minimize genetic defects. Granted it’s always best to outsource genes, but still. They seem to have sufficient people so as long as they are careful it should be fine.
Not to mention, natural mutations generally occur. While mutations occur in very small changes every generation, it’s still there.
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1:40 yes, I think Casita did fix itself and it does have the ability to do so, but it's mostly connected to the feelings of Mira (and maybe even Abuela). during the scene where Isa and Mira are singing What Else Can I Do, at the part where they stood in front of the candle and Isa hugs Mira, the cracks started to vanish (probably because Mira is happier being reconciled with her sister) so yeah, it's definitely not Bruno who did the fixing.
1:18 she picked up the road
I think that song means more than what you're explaining.
You're only thinking about it in the small picture what about the big picture?
"you must leave and build your own future"- could be talking about the family leaving Abuelas' control. Just like how Isabela did by finding her true self.
"two disoriented caterpillars"- talks about how both Abuela and Mirabel lost their hope in the fighting
"In two well-wrapped cocoons" - could be talking about the mountains and the casita, how they both shelter the family and the village
"with new dreams"- how everyone is longing for a new start, a breath of fresh air.
"Now all that's missing is to do what's necessary in a world that keeps changing" - refers to a force of change for the family and town that push needed to start again. this also goes against Abuelas' fear that the world is still the same
"taking down its walls"- meaning moving the mountains and opening the place to visitors from the outside
"Here comes our miracle"- since knowing the generation they can open up to new people and not start cross-breeding. the miracle isn't the house it's the people that can come now that the change has been made
It's actually said by one of the creators that Julieta can cure everything, even her husband and daughter's eyesight, but she gives them a choice.
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@@jeffboy4231 Something something sometime people don't want to be made into a perfect version of themselves
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@@jeffboy4231 it may make his kids smile to see their dad have a big old face and he doesn't seem to mind it, plus it is probably hiw he meet his wife.