I just found out my retired mother paid for an entire engine swap just because the pan was leaking and ford told her the block was warped causing the leak to come back after they exhausted all other options. Legendary fail by Ford. That engine had 140k on it and ran fine. Wish I had more time to look into it myself.
Thanks for sharing this info. Would have loved to see exactly which 3 bolts you talked about for the Diff. housing lowering. Guess I will figure it out. Cheers from Motown.
I’m bringing my truck in next Tuesday for them to look at the oil pan… I have an ‘18 2.7 with 32K on it. My question is this should be covered under the factory power train warranty correct? They know about it and even have a new pan design… great video!👍
@@raincitywrench117 just a follow up with my truck… oil pan is being covered under warranty so I’m happy with that! Thanks again for the info and video!!👍
Is there not a metal oil pan or better solution for this? I have already replaced mine once and it started leaking again. Is it the plastic pan or the type of sealant that causes the oil leak?
This is all they offer unless there is an aftermarket aluminum pan available. Make sure you have the updated part number installed. The TSB shows JT4Z-6675-B. Motorcraft TA-357 sealant needs to be used.
The 6 cylinder GM duramax for 1/2 tons uses a plastic belt for oil pump too. It is at back of engine and requires trans and back engine cover removal for its service. The plastic in oil belt has been on Honda small engines for over 30 years and those have done well. We’ll see. I have seen 2.7EB with over 200k miles but obviously only 6 years old. Time will tell.
Is there any chance you can provide the part number for the new updated oil pan? I can’t seem to find them, and my local Ford dealer claims they don’t exist. Thanks!
The 15-16&17 uses a different oil pan with silicone valves that are part of the PCV system. There is no updated pan for these engines. Unfortunately I have one….😩
@@raincitywrench117 So did anyone decide for sure if this updated pan would work on the 15-16 model year. I’ve got a 15 and trying to replace it with the original OEM pans has only resulted in more oil leaks
@@ethankarls7943 Doesn't look like it will. Here is the warning in the bulletin "CAUTION: The parts and procedure in this article are not compatible with 2015-2017 vehicles. Do not use the oil pan with press-in-place gasket on 2015-2017 vehicles as this oil pan is not equipped with a positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) check valve. Installation of this oil pan on a 2015-2017 vehicle will result in oil consumption which may result in engine damage."
And who's genius idea to make them plastic oil pan and leaky plastic drain bolts. its another money maker for ford smh what was wrong with metal oil pan lol
EV's are still less than 4% of all new cars sold but the industry is changing quickly. The new F150 lightning will be out next spring. I see about 1/3 internal combustion, 1/3 hybrid and the last third ev's within the next 20 years.
Always do your research before buying any vehicle
I just found out my retired mother paid for an entire engine swap just because the pan was leaking and ford told her the block was warped causing the leak to come back after they exhausted all other options.
Legendary fail by Ford. That engine had 140k on it and ran fine. Wish I had more time to look into it myself.
That stinks. So many incompetent dealers out there plus Ford likes to overengineer stuff.
Great info! Thanks for sharing! Definitely learned something new about the 2.7L F150.
This new design pan with gasket is only for 2018-2021. will NOT work on 2015-2017
Thanks for sharing this info. Would have loved to see exactly which 3 bolts you talked about for the Diff. housing lowering. Guess I will figure it out. Cheers from Motown.
The bolts will be obvious. Takes a little finagling to snake the pan out. Thanks for watching!
I’m bringing my truck in next Tuesday for them to look at the oil pan… I have an ‘18 2.7 with 32K on it. My question is this should be covered under the factory power train warranty correct? They know about it and even have a new pan design… great video!👍
You bet. Easy peasy lemon squeezy
@@raincitywrench117 just a follow up with my truck… oil pan is being covered under warranty so I’m happy with that! Thanks again for the info and video!!👍
@@jlautomotive6349 Awesome!
For the love of God. I'm buying a Tundra.
Is there not a metal oil pan or better solution for this? I have already replaced mine once and it started leaking again. Is it the plastic pan or the type of sealant that causes the oil leak?
This is all they offer unless there is an aftermarket aluminum pan available. Make sure you have the updated part number installed. The TSB shows JT4Z-6675-B. Motorcraft TA-357 sealant needs to be used.
The 6 cylinder GM duramax for 1/2 tons uses a plastic belt for oil pump too. It is at back of engine and requires trans and back engine cover removal for its service. The plastic in oil belt has been on Honda small engines for over 30 years and those have done well. We’ll see. I have seen 2.7EB with over 200k miles but obviously only 6 years old. Time will tell.
Didn't know that but you're right, time will tell.
Sell it before belt snaps sounds like a very expensive repair
Is there any chance you can provide the part number for the new updated oil pan? I can’t seem to find them, and my local Ford dealer claims they don’t exist. Thanks!
The TSB shows JT4Z-6675-B
A waiting list of over 5000 trucks are on it
What year is the truck mine is a 2016 would that pan work on mine ?
I checked the oil pan procedure in workshop manual for a 16 F150 2.7L and it's identical.
The 15-16&17 uses a different oil pan with silicone valves that are part of the PCV system. There is no updated pan for these engines. Unfortunately I have one….😩
@@raincitywrench117 So did anyone decide for sure if this updated pan would work on the 15-16 model year. I’ve got a 15 and trying to replace it with the original OEM pans has only resulted in more oil leaks
@@ethankarls7943 Doesn't look like it will. Here is the warning in the bulletin "CAUTION: The parts and procedure in this article are not compatible with 2015-2017 vehicles. Do not use the oil pan with press-in-place gasket on 2015-2017 vehicles as this oil pan is not equipped with a positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) check valve. Installation of this oil pan on a 2015-2017 vehicle will result in oil consumption which may result in engine damage."
Does the truck have to be under warranty for Ford to honor the tsb?
Unfortunately it does unless there is a warranty extension for this problem that I'm not aware of.
How long does this job take? Looks like 2-3 hours to me. I saw another video that said leaking oil pans were causing alternator failures.
About four hours. Have seen alternators get oil soaked from leaking valve cover.
Plastic oil pan, I bet it will leak someday later, let's not forget transmission pan, plastic, also leaks, lol, genius design
They did that on the superduty also, didn't last long. LOL
now that ford knows you have a trick, they are gonna cut the warranty labor time down......lol
Oh Dude, that is so true! God forbid a tech make a stress free top level wage
@@raincitywrench117 right?
And who's genius idea to make them plastic oil pan and leaky plastic drain bolts. its another money maker for ford smh what was wrong with metal oil pan lol
Ford used that exact design on the first gen 6.7. Only lasted a year.
Well at least we won't have to worry about those pesky petrol engines much longer.
EV's are still less than 4% of all new cars sold but the industry is changing quickly. The new F150 lightning will be out next spring. I see about 1/3 internal combustion, 1/3 hybrid and the last third ev's within the next 20 years.