I had a 2015 2.7 and had the oil pan resealed 3 times!!!!!!! Ford Dealer on the last visit said “well, that’s all we can do for now” 😆😆 loved that truck but got tired of the oil on my garage floor. Fast forward…I bought a 2018 2.7 and it’s DOES NOT LEAK 👏🏼👏🏼. It’s a beast of a truck!!!! Torque for dayyyyyssss! Well done Ford! Thanks for the videos on these!
There is actually a new setup for this, they replace the valve covers so you can use the new 2018 oil pan with an actual gasket and I think the PCV vents into valve covers now instead of the oil pan. If anyone needs a reference: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10233594-0001.pdf
They finally came out with a new TSB to address the 1st gen leaks when the gasket is built into the pan and also replacement of that valve covers. TSB 24-2098 if anyone is interested.
I sure hope it’s the same 2.7 going in the Ranger. This engine is basically bullet proof and with a couple bolt ons and a tune it’s gonna be super fast..
I’m a Ford Senior Master Tech and I find that the 2.7 is one of the most reliable engines in the F150. It’s rare to have a serious issue. I’ve seen only a couple of failures since they have been released over hundreds of trucks and many years. About the only issue I see is catalytic converter failure on vehicles that are not driven much. There is a tsb now to basically drive the truck hard and recheck it to clear them out. Maintenance is the most critical thing that needs to be done. Don’t forget to change the oil.
My 2018 has been throwing the cat code for a long time. Haven't noticed any decrease in performance. I'll look for the TSB to see if I can save from buying new cats. I'm at 122,000 miles and changing oil every 5,000 miles
Have a 2022 f150 2.7L, and before I got my truck, I did extensive research on the newer 2.7L engines and found that these things are practically bulletproof with good maintenance. And especially after watching this video, seeing you point out all the issues that really only are on the Gen 1 engines, that further solidifies how bulletproof my engine is. My Gen 2 2.7L has direct injection and port injection to eliminate that carbon build up too. I added a S&B cold air intake, and a pedal commander. I love this truck with this engine! 😎
Have the same 2022 f150 2.7L with the same pedal commander and S&B cold air setup and I couldn’t agree more, it’s a beast, two years, 28 k miles and zero problems, you made an excellent decision.
I own a 2015 F-150 2.7L Turbo Eco-Boost 4x4. I have about 114K+ Miles on it. I run Amsoil Signature Series 100% Synthetic 5w-30 also use Amsoil 75w-90 for front and rear differential. Just changed the Spark Plugs she runs like a Dream, and so far no Problems.
I had a 2016 2.7 F150. 16000 miles engine failure from bad valve. Pieces went through the turbo. I changed the oil at 1k miles 3k 5k 7k 9k 11k 13k 15k. With amsoil ss and penzoil ultra platinum. Treated it better than any vehicle I have ever owned. They were rebuilding the engine when I went to check on yhe truck. The cab was off the truck and the engine was in a million pieces. I told them no way I want that vehicle back. The let me order a new vehicle from the factory after calling the company. I lucked out
Thats shitty I mean failures happen, even on the big diesels, I work on some engines, come back with pistons being thrown through the block. But happy ford took care of you.
Cool that they let you snag another though i guess thats a smart make saves a lawsuit you feel me. I hate having to get the lawyers invovled. They can make a difference though really they can
2018 2.7L here. These are great engines. I have had 0 issues and drive it daily. It's surprisingly powerful for just a 2.7 and gets 17-18 mpg around town in a 4x4.
I thought the same thing as you, I have the same year/engine as you. I've done all recommended service - however at 103,000 miles my 10 speed transmission had a complete failure leaving me stranded. Out of warranty by 3,000 miles, a new transmission cost me $8,407.00 - I am NOT happy about that!
Never towed anything with it. The Ford dealer serviced the transmission at 95,000 miles and charged me $295. I "assume" they flushed and filled and changed the filter.@@jimmyneutron3055
This was just the video that I needed. I’m looking at this 2021 Ford F150 XLT with the 2.7 L V6. And I was just afraid about the engine problems. But from the looks of things, it looks like most problems were resolved after the first generation. Thanks for making this video.
3 years ago I bought a 2020 F150 2.7...First truck, first Ford..Being a Honda guy, I was terrified...it's been the smoothest running and most reliable vehicle I've ever known. 8K km Mobil1 oil changes with OEM filter...60K km spark plug change...2x a year air filter change....I LOVE this truck. 0-100km/h in 5 seconds. Cannot complain. Be proactive with maintenance, spend a few dollars and don't be cheap, and this thing is gonna treat you well. All the RAMs, GMC/Silverado 1500s around me have been crumbling. Perhaps they don't keep up on maintenance, but my experience has been eye opening as far as trucks go.
I installed the catch can on my 2017 2.7 F150 at around 50k miles. It’s a great addition, easy to install and worth it to keep the oil vapors from being recycled through the engine. This will help from having the carbon build up on the valves and I can attest to this as I drain about a 1/2 cup of sludge every oil change. It’s worth not having that sludge recirculating back into the engine. All EPA related parts are harmful to the vehicles and they do reduce life of the vehicles.
I’ve been using the 2.7 since 2016 in my F150’s with no issues hopefully it will stay that way. For some reason my salesman is sold on this being the best one ford makes.
@@karlschauff7989 yeah, I don’t know why ford makes changes like that. Don’t try and change something that’s not broken. Unfortunately not everybody thinks that way. I am in a 21 XLT at the moment hopefully I don’t see any issues with it. There have been multiple recalls I’ve had to deal with though.
I really love my 2021 2.7 twin. Over 80k miles in her now, been a good truck, we'll see how long she'll last. I keep her clean and fresh Castrol often :)
Interesting you mentioned fuel in the oil. I have this motor in a Bronco and been doing 6k oil change intervals. Sent the oil to be tested and showed good in the summer, including no detected fuel in the oil. But the sample I sent in the winter was approaching 3% fuel diluted, which is above what you'd want to see (less than 2% is considered safe). Must be that rich warm up in the cold combined with direct injection. The factory recommended 10k oil change interval seems insane just based on this analysis alone.
Very interesting. Love that you do your own oil testing. But yes, in colder temperatures these engines can dilute the oil a little more and that's why I would try and change the oil more frequently
People don't like timing belts so they eventually got rid of timing belt engines for chains. Now we have a timing belt oil pumps. The Mini Duramax has that too. One step forward, two steps back. I have a Toyota 4.7 V8 in a Land Cruiser with a timing belt, it isn't hard to change. The oil pump is driven directly by the crankshaft snout similar to the way an LS is... I think I'll take a timing belt over an oil pump belt any day off the week. Also, the 4.7 Toyota has proven to be capable of doing 1 million miles.
Mine at about 140,000 also. Regular oil changes. No leaks at all. Just changes the coolest about 6 months ago. 36 gallon gas tank gives me about 700+ miles of range and I drive thousand mile trips several times a year. Now if I could get a matching bladder all would be good!😊😊😊
I had a 2017. 3 oil pan leak issues in less then 30000 km. After getting the truck back. I drove the truck 100 kms and the tranmission went. 2 days I was driving a tundra
Brothers Edge ST with the 2.7 oil pan leaked right out the gate and the dealer botched the re sealing of it and rtv clogged the pickup and trashed the motor. 4 months later he had to lemon law it.
With my 2016, I was only ever really worried about carbon buildup from the DI. On some hot days the 2.7 and 3.5 EB shake a bit at idle in drive. Ford dealer confirmed as normal, no codes, just a tuning quirk. Overall, loved that engine.
Agreed 100% brother, gotta love the legendary 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra mate and it'll definitely outlast any EcoBoost powered vehicle with ease by a massive long shot.
The little brother 3.5 2GR-FKS in the 21 Tacoma is rock solid too. After the seal issues of the first few model years got ironed out and frame issues of the second-gen it's a bulletproof little machine.
The 2018 I think is Fords best year in the last ten years. Especially for the F-150's. I personally lined the 5.0's in 2017 before the cylinder changes. But saw a 2022 piston explode and not damage the black which is unreal for the 5.0. Keep in mind the 2.7's block is very well built. The issues I heard and read were the connecting rods bearing going out earlier that they are supposed too. Then the famous oil pump wet belt. Which you know can destroy a Ford engine if not properly checked way before the maintenance cycle.
2.7 powers my wife's 2022 Bronco 4-Dr Wildtrak very well. Turns the factory 35's with ease while getting 19 mpg on the freeway at 70 mph. I'm surprised how quick it is.
Nice to see you be able to say negative things about Ford now HAHAHAHA Love the indepth and truthfully non bias opinions. Love the channel ! Please keep up the amazing work!!
Had the oil pan leak used the gen 4 pan revision and it works great with the new gasket. Replaced driver turbo cause common waste gate linkage wearing out. Shutter stop fixed torque converter shutter and I’m at 230k hard Miles and I believe truck has crack in the liquid cooled manifold that’s built into the head and losing coolant. It’s honestly been a great motor but having the gen 1 2.7 has its quirks
Iv put 80,000 miles on my 2018 2.7 hauling 10k+ lbs 5 days a week (huge landscape trailer multiple mowers, sometimes mini excavators, sod, rock) it has 108k miles now and hasn’t blown yet. Looking at getting a 2024 7.3 gas or 6.7 power stroke next. Just out growing the 2.7 but it makes the best run around or road trip truck.
2015 F-150 2.7 EcoBoost. Resealed sliding back window due to leaking water. Came back shortly after. New oil pan at 60k due to leak, leaked a day after... gave up on that, still leaks. New fuel pump at 75k. Replaced oil sending tube to updated one due to blue burning oil smoke on startup. Issue came back after a few months. Now at 100k I need new turbos due to loss of power and burning a lot of oil through the turbo seals under load... Thanks Ford!
My biggest gripe with the oil belt is really simple: you have to remove the timing chains to get to it. It's the same issue with the 5.0 oil pump belt. If it was in front of the chains, and it was possible to change it without touching the timing system, fine, not as big of a deal. Just like the GM small diesel oil pump belt, it's enough complexity I wouldn't even consider doing it myself. Good information, as always. Looking forward to the next video!
Toyota Tundra had timing belt in front of water pump. I ordered one for a guy who had to fix his girlfriends truck. He could not believe it. I showed him the mounting points and dowel pins for the pulleys machined in the front face of the new one. He bought a book and worked on the thing all night long so she could go to work in it.
@@fireflyraven2760 why do anything when it’s not needed? Maybe pull the rank and check to see if there is any wear? Do that just for giggles just like the belt
@pathunter7003 so uh, when the belt breaks and oil isn't moving through the system, what then I don't like the 2.7l wco because of this fact the oil pump drive is inside the block to gian access to the second gear at the bottom end you have to take the oil pan off so much work for the simplest of things man and for the prices they are asking for it's a little insulting that they are building these vehicles to keep the customer out
I have a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 with 129000 miles ( most are highway miles) so far no problems..it gets good gas mileage with plenty of power... I use castrol full synthetic oil and change each time warning comes on... The 2 things that concern me most are the turbos and oil pump belt....i do wish they had made it a gear driven pump, or at least made it easy to get to for replacement... Love the truck so far, I would buy another with the 2.7 engine... Wanted to trade for a new one at around 95000, miles, but they are way over priced for me...
Just like the supplier issue with the intake valves, (the supplier was supposed to heat treat the valves after machining, which is common process control practice, and specified by the manufacturer) There was a supplier issue affecting early 2016 model year 2.7Ls with heads that were machined out of spec causing head gasket issues and coolant intrusion. Both of these were limited run issues. A correction on the oil pan gasket issue: The oil pan itself was changed several times. The common revision part numbers A, B, C etc. In 2021, Ford introduced revision D, which came with an o-ring style gasket impregnated into the oil pan as one part number, and no longer utilized a separate part number for the gasket, or RTV. Also, the only way someone would be able to tell if there was a leak, is if their oil change tech told them. Ford, along with multiple other manufacturers, is notorious for using compressed fabric splash guards that readily absorb oil leaks. It has to get pretty bad before you see drips on the floor. The oil pan leaking issue also most commonly happens around 100k miles, which is also when every other vehicle starts to leak oil. Older engines with stamped steel oil pans were FAR worse for oil leaks as they only used RTV, with the old GMs needing you to remove the entire steering linkage and drop the diff to service the oil pans on 4x4s. Cast Aluminum oil pans are definitely the best rigidity wise, but are easier to gall up the threads when a lube tech inevitably puts the force of 1,000 suns on the drain plug. That puts me square in the "meh" category when it comes to these Glass filled Nylon pans. Hitting a rock , or running over road debris at 70 mph will destroy any oil pan, regardless of what it's made of. The biggest advantage the plastic pans have is that the pickup tubes are built into the pan, so you replace those, and their screen every time you replace the pan. Less wear garbage in the motor, the better. I agree with you that the weak piece of these 2.7s is that the oil pump is belt driven. That being said, it hasn't really had issues like the 1.0l ecoboost did. I do wish it wasn't a timing job to replace it though.
2021 f150 2.7 built in August... valve guide went bad at 30k miles damaging the valve and cylinder head, ultimately causing low cylinder compression. It took ford almost 4 months just to get replacement parts and by the time it was repaired i had been issued 6 different loaner trucks
Oil changes are the life of any turbo engine for sure! Both for helping keep fuel dilution down but also protecting turbos and everything else. Another bit of advice is on turbo engines it’s a good idea the after you finish driving and come to park and stop let the engine idle for 1-2 mins to let the turbo shaft slow down and also to get the hot oil out of the turbo and let everything cool. When you turn off the engine nothing is circulating to cool anything so if it’s left hot it just bakes itself.
Agreed… I used to have nice private time with my Saab 9-3 letting it spool down in the garage before I turned her off. And now we have auto start-stop messing up the whole cool down process. So stupid. Thankfully we have those defeat buttons.
It’s not the 1980’s anymore, leaving the engine run a bit before shutting it off could be a good idea but not necessary. If needed the engine runs coolant thru the turbo to cool it down after shutting it off, so nothing “bakes”
@@pathunter7003 when the water pump which on 99% of engines currently is only pumping when the engine is running you have no flow of coolant either. Yes the newer ones have coolant going to them for that reason so you don’t have to idle as long but it’s still a good practice…. I work at a large engine test facility and part of the shutdown is stepping down load and RPM the letting the engine idle for about 2mins before shutting down if it didn’t make a difference we wouldn’t be doing that…..
Issues mine had in 30k miles.. stalling while towing, rear main seal, clunking rear differential, failure to start, leaking plastic oil pan, multiple recalls and many others.
Thanks for putting this information out there.....it's very helpful! I bought my 2.7 with 11,000 miles. I immediately installed a catch-can for the crankcase vent, and I change my oil before 5,000 miles with full synthetic. Hopefully I'll get a long life out of it.
I got a 2.7 in my 2015 f150 with 178k km (+/- 120k miles) and NEVER got an issue. I service it myself with good synthetic oil. I just got a unmentionable "oilleak" from the O-ring on the drainplug.
Oil Catch can and cleaning the TB should help with the carbon buildup on those 1st Gens. Also OCI of 3month/3k with Fully Synthetic Oil will help across the board.
It’s something inside the engine that everybody screams/cries about now, even tho there has been no reported failures. It’s usually just folks that has never have or will own the engine that bitch about it
Mechanically the 10 spd is strong - engineered for 600 lb-ft output. Only thing I've found is it's much happier with a decent sized trailer to pull, rather than putzing around town empty at 35 mph. It tends to rev hang, or shift roughly sometimes going into or out of 4th gear. Dealer knows about it, and it seems to be a programming issue far as I can tell, but they haven't offered a fix on that yet. I would have gone to a speed shop to reprogram it but I don't want to risk voiding my warranty, so I just live with it.
I purchased a new 2018 with 2.7 EcoBoost with 10 speed automation. I've done all recommended services - however at 103,000 miles my 10 speed transmission had a complete failure leaving me stranded. Out of warranty by 3,000 miles, a new transmission cost me $8,407.00 - I am NOT happy about that!
Yes. I was told my a couple of other shops in the area that it was the going price, plus the dealer offered a better warranty than they could. (36 months, unlimited miles) The Service Tech said when I picked it up that I had the "new and improved" transmission . . . so I said "so there WAS something wrong with the previous one?" He went silent. @@Kevinw4040
Hi! I’m thinking of getting a used F-150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost as daily work truck. I have a commute of 40 mile one-way (1.5 hrs) then another 1hr drive home in horrid SoCal traffic. I haul mostly network cabling installation equipment in the bed, and do not tow. What model year and grade do you recommend? I would like to have some of the newer active safety features such as the automatic emergency braking system to avoid front collisions, but not as critical as long-term reliability and durability. Any suggestions for a late model 2.7 F-150 with Direct and Port Injection. Also, what immediate and affordable engine and transmission mods for reliability and durability are recommended? I’m not looking for more power, just long-term reliability and durability as I don’t have too much money and need a truck for work and personal use. Thank you!
@@GettysGarage I used to work at a Ford dealership and Nova Scotia Power used quite a few Ecoboost engines and they drove them hard but with very few issues and I think that is the key with direct ingected turbo engines. My 2020 2.7 has a cracked flex plate which is made of aluminum,(dumb move by Ford) and I am awaiting repair.
There are reported wet oil pump belt issues... degrading belts, belt fibers clogging-up the oil pick up screen, fraying belts and teeth/lugs breaking off the belts = STUPID IDEA!
You Tuber I do cars has a video he takes apart a 2.7 with the rubber oil pump belt which contributed to the engine failure, he’s got another video where he takes apart the previous generation 2.7 and he shows a side by side photo shot oil pump chain/oil pump belt.
These belt failures are out there on the 2.7. Agreed, what a stupid idea having a belt running in oil. The best Ford I owned was with a 300 inline 6, that had over 325,000 miles on it. I totaled the truck out in a crash, and that's what stopped it. F150 1996, and I wish I could buy another new one just like it!
2019 here and my oil pan gasket leaked. Was the same plastic waffle looking pan as the 16/17’s. I also had a cat go bad and transmission had to be rebuilt before 45,000 miles. Luckily all of this was within the four year power train warranty but this worries me for the future.
2019 f150 4x4 with 2.7L ecoboost, 48k miles. My IWE system completely failed (not an engine problem) but super annoying. Luckily it was covered under power train warranty. Also pinion seal leaking already. I love the engine and agree its one of fords best, but im concerned about the rest of the truck falling apart around the engine. Dont getbme started on the 10R80 transmission that feels like im riding a bucking bronco to and from work everyday
As important as the oil pump is I would think that it would be geared or at least have easy access to the pump and belt so the engine doesn't need to be pulled.
This is my fourth truck with the 2.7l. They have all been pretty good. I run Amsoil in all of them. Had an issue on the current truck(purchased not leased) blew the cold side of the turbo intake (driver side) they claimed egr issue. I think highly unlikely. Currently I’m having power loss but I’m thinking wastegate leaking. Restart and it seems to clear. I’m at 165K k’s on it currently. Looking for some insights.
15-17s (job 1s) have 2 timing chains as well just like the 18-24s. The 15-17 have a chain driven oil pump. 18-24s have a rubber belt driven oil pump. The 2.7 is a great motor. They’re over built for what they are.
I was able to take out a 2024 F150 with the 2.7 and it really is an impressive engine. I will be shopping for a new truck next year. I currently have a 2019 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 DFM engine. I really like the Chevy and may end up with a new one. But the lifter issue is certainly a concern. Maybe it's not as big of an issue as the internet makes it out to be but it is something that is on my mind. Then I watch many videos of the Ford where owners have put huge miles on their trucks with very little mechanical issue and seem very happy with their Fords. That is the feeling I wish I had with my Chevy and if I did I would buy another one. So maybe it's time to make the switch?
The number one problem with these trucks is the price! Ford abandoned their model of building the most reliable truck for the everyday working man. They switched over to the GM business model of producing the cheapest junk for the highest price you can get for it.
Cousins GMC 2016 Acadia went through 2 engines and a transmission, not that many miles. Also very strangely smelled like propane constantly, everyone could smell it.
@@fraxonthefurry21 you don’t know much of anything until you are told what to believe.. Other vehicle manufacturers use the same belt system but I’m sure you don’t know who they are, that’s the good part😏
I have a 2017 F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost with 167k miles. Currently I am on a list of about 130 waiting for 2.7 rebuilt engine replacement. So far been waiting a month for new rebuilt motor. Will cost about $13k. Blowing lots of white smoke on cold start up then some blue smoke and eventually after about 10-15 minutes it seemingly goes away. Using about one gallon of coolant every 450 miles. Replaced oil supply line to driver's side turbo replaced but that didn't fix it. Dealer said a few different possiblities within coolant system plus one cylinder has small amount of oil in it. Been faithful with recommended service intervals on oil and other fluids. Pretty disappointed. Coolant system is not sufficient in summer when towing about 6000lbs with 90 deg temps. I don't tow all the time either, just small to medium sized boat a few times a year. Had coolant system checked and cleaned last summer (by dealer). It is a very fun a lively engine, but since I have followed all the recommended service intervals (including fuel system service) I think more 2.7 engines will fail in coming years. Dealer admitted some engines of this year have these same issues.
I had a 2015 2.7 and had the oil pan resealed 3 times!!!!!!! Ford Dealer on the last visit said “well, that’s all we can do for now” 😆😆 loved that truck but got tired of the oil on my garage floor. Fast forward…I bought a 2018 2.7 and it’s DOES NOT LEAK 👏🏼👏🏼. It’s a beast of a truck!!!! Torque for dayyyyyssss! Well done Ford!
Thanks for the videos on these!
My 2.7 in my fusion has had 6 oil pan reseals. Under extended warranty so really just getting really good oil changes. Likely get rid of it
There is actually a new setup for this, they replace the valve covers so you can use the new 2018 oil pan with an actual gasket and I think the PCV vents into valve covers now instead of the oil pan.
If anyone needs a reference:
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10233594-0001.pdf
How many miles are you at with it now? I’m very interested in getting one
They finally came out with a new TSB to address the 1st gen leaks when the gasket is built into the pan and also replacement of that valve covers. TSB 24-2098 if anyone is interested.
There is a trick to those
The 2.7 EcoBoost is a well built and potent little engine. Love mine ❤
Except for that oil pump belt.
I sure hope it’s the same 2.7 going in the Ranger. This engine is basically bullet proof and with a couple bolt ons and a tune it’s gonna be super fast..
@@billygames7107I can’t wait to get mine wit the 2.7 in it this summer hopefully!! 👍
My buddies died at 108k pos
@@mikemaybe5999my 2019 is a emissions money light machine
I’m a Ford Senior Master Tech and I find that the 2.7 is one of the most reliable engines in the F150. It’s rare to have a serious issue. I’ve seen only a couple of failures since they have been released over hundreds of trucks and many years. About the only issue I see is catalytic converter failure on vehicles that are not driven much. There is a tsb now to basically drive the truck hard and recheck it to clear them out. Maintenance is the most critical thing that needs to be done. Don’t forget to change the oil.
My 2018 has been throwing the cat code for a long time. Haven't noticed any decrease in performance. I'll look for the TSB to see if I can save from buying new cats. I'm at 122,000 miles and changing oil every 5,000 miles
How do you deal w the oil pan gasket issue?
@@dannymartinez8522 mine is the second generation 2.7 so I haven't had any issues with the oil pan
Uh hem, oil pump is driven by rubber belt?
@@billgateskilledmyuncle23 haven’t seen any fail so far….
I’ve got a 2019 F150 2.7L EcoBoost engine and love it. I have not had any problems and I’m changing the oil at most every 5,000 miles.
Ditto - over 150k miles. I get 26-28 mpg on the highway driving gently.
@@dandydenni1615how’s it doing now ? I’m looking to buy a 2019 at 100k miles
@@dandydenni1615it's not it if you have to drive it gently
I HAVE it in my 2017 twin turbo fusion 150k miles no issues at all but the damn plastic oil pan leaks
Really enjoying the ford reviews. You have excellent communication skills. Keep it up!
Have a 22 f150 with 2.7. I love the truck. No complaints.
Have a 2022 f150 2.7L, and before I got my truck, I did extensive research on the newer 2.7L engines and found that these things are practically bulletproof with good maintenance. And especially after watching this video, seeing you point out all the issues that really only are on the Gen 1 engines, that further solidifies how bulletproof my engine is. My Gen 2 2.7L has direct injection and port injection to eliminate that carbon build up too. I added a S&B cold air intake, and a pedal commander. I love this truck with this engine! 😎
I couldn’t agree more!! I ordered my 2.7 Ranger. Just waiting for build now. I’m super stoked!
Have the same 2022 f150 2.7L with the same pedal commander and S&B cold air setup and I couldn’t agree more, it’s a beast, two years, 28 k miles and zero problems, you made an excellent decision.
What is a pedal commander?
only issue with the gen2 2.7 is the belt driven oil pump , what a genius
I own a 2015 F-150 2.7L Turbo Eco-Boost 4x4. I have about 114K+ Miles on it. I run Amsoil Signature Series 100% Synthetic 5w-30 also use Amsoil 75w-90 for front and rear differential. Just changed the Spark Plugs she runs like a Dream, and so far no Problems.
How many miles you change your amsoil signature sesries 5w-30.?
@@fernandosergiomaribarte9568 about 15k
I had a 2016 2.7 F150. 16000 miles engine failure from bad valve. Pieces went through the turbo. I changed the oil at 1k miles 3k 5k 7k 9k 11k 13k 15k. With amsoil ss and penzoil ultra platinum. Treated it better than any vehicle I have ever owned. They were rebuilding the engine when I went to check on yhe truck. The cab was off the truck and the engine was in a million pieces. I told them no way I want that vehicle back. The let me order a new vehicle from the factory after calling the company. I lucked out
Thats shitty I mean failures happen, even on the big diesels, I work on some engines, come back with pistons being thrown through the block. But happy ford took care of you.
Cool that they let you snag another though i guess thats a smart make saves a lawsuit you feel me. I hate having to get the lawyers invovled. They can make a difference though really they can
Good call refusing to take it back. Chances are that truck would have given you even more problems from all of that invasive work.
You didn’t change the oil enough should have been every 1k miles
Don’t neglect that maintenance
You were lucky they didn’t notice your neglect
@@joeblack1052that has to be sarcasm
2018 2.7L here. These are great engines. I have had 0 issues and drive it daily. It's surprisingly powerful for just a 2.7 and gets 17-18 mpg around town in a 4x4.
I thought the same thing as you, I have the same year/engine as you. I've done all recommended service - however at 103,000 miles my 10 speed transmission had a complete failure leaving me stranded. Out of warranty by 3,000 miles, a new transmission cost me $8,407.00 - I am NOT happy about that!
@@dannylawson366mind sharing if you did any towing and if you drain and fill the transmission fluid before hitting 100k?
Never towed anything with it. The Ford dealer serviced the transmission at 95,000 miles and charged me $295. I "assume" they flushed and filled and changed the filter.@@jimmyneutron3055
This was just the video that I needed. I’m looking at this 2021 Ford F150 XLT with the 2.7 L V6. And I was just afraid about the engine problems. But from the looks of things, it looks like most problems were resolved after the first generation. Thanks for making this video.
That exactly why I am here, 21 xlt 2.7 seems like the best bang for your buck in the current market.
3 years ago I bought a 2020 F150 2.7...First truck, first Ford..Being a Honda guy, I was terrified...it's been the smoothest running and most reliable vehicle I've ever known. 8K km Mobil1 oil changes with OEM filter...60K km spark plug change...2x a year air filter change....I LOVE this truck. 0-100km/h in 5 seconds. Cannot complain. Be proactive with maintenance, spend a few dollars and don't be cheap, and this thing is gonna treat you well. All the RAMs, GMC/Silverado 1500s around me have been crumbling. Perhaps they don't keep up on maintenance, but my experience has been eye opening as far as trucks go.
Original owner, 2021 2.7 V6 Eco Boost, 60k miles,change oil every 5000 mi, no issues at all. Very happy with my truck.
I installed the catch can on my 2017 2.7 F150 at around 50k miles. It’s a great addition, easy to install and worth it to keep the oil vapors from being recycled through the engine. This will help from having the carbon build up on the valves and I can attest to this as I drain about a 1/2 cup of sludge every oil change. It’s worth not having that sludge recirculating back into the engine. All EPA related parts are harmful to the vehicles and they do reduce life of the vehicles.
I just cant stand this junk
I only get about a tablespoon in mine at the oil change.
I'm so tired of Plastic engine parts
Yep, I’d rather have plastic body panels before you start power wheelifying my engine.
@freedomisntfree44 They don't rust.
Its cheap and light. every vehicle is made to a cost.
@@michaelpoczynek I don’t worry about rust down in the south. My taco has 293k miles and oil pan looks new
@@michaelpoczynekI've never had a problem with engine parts rusting. At least not before the rest of the vehicle falls apart.
So nice to see someone from the Canadian Maritimes. Great work with the channel and hello from PEI! 😀
Thank you sir!
Agreed! Hello from New Brunswick!
@@GettysGaragewhere’s your shop? I live on PEI and have this truck
I am glad I have a 2019 F-150. I have almost 90k on the truck and have not had any issues with the engine
Love these series. Very informative and helpful!
2020 2.7 F150 I'm changing the oil every 5000 miles. So far absolutely no problems! Love the truck!
I’ve been using the 2.7 since 2016 in my F150’s with no issues hopefully it will stay that way. For some reason my salesman is sold on this being the best one ford makes.
The 1st gen is better than a 2nd gen with that belt driven oil pump.
@@karlschauff7989 yeah, I don’t know why ford makes changes like that. Don’t try and change something that’s not broken. Unfortunately not everybody thinks that way. I am in a 21 XLT at the moment hopefully I don’t see any issues with it. There have been multiple recalls I’ve had to deal with though.
Thank you for the review. Looking for a future replacement for my 05 F-150 with 294k miles and I found the 2.7L appealing.
Traded in my ‘05 supercab with the 5.4 last summer and got a ‘23 with the 2.7. I love it, the close ratio 10 speed is nice
I really love my 2021 2.7 twin.
Over 80k miles in her now, been a good truck, we'll see how long she'll last. I keep her clean and fresh Castrol often :)
Damn! My 23 is perfect then. Nice video, thanks
Interested to see that 2.7 when it comes out later this year in the Ranger. That thing will be a little rocket ship.
Nice review! Next up, ford 3.3, let’s go!!
The NA engines in F-150s are what you settle for when you can’t afford a 2.7. No thanks.
@@miniaddict4534 not really some of us, would rather have the reliability of naturally aspirated.
Great videos! Super technical and detailed but presented in a way a non mechanic can understand.
Thanks for the video… your videos have been helpful.
Glad you like them!
Interesting you mentioned fuel in the oil. I have this motor in a Bronco and been doing 6k oil change intervals. Sent the oil to be tested and showed good in the summer, including no detected fuel in the oil. But the sample I sent in the winter was approaching 3% fuel diluted, which is above what you'd want to see (less than 2% is considered safe). Must be that rich warm up in the cold combined with direct injection. The factory recommended 10k oil change interval seems insane just based on this analysis alone.
Very interesting. Love that you do your own oil testing. But yes, in colder temperatures these engines can dilute the oil a little more and that's why I would try and change the oil more frequently
People don't like timing belts so they eventually got rid of timing belt engines for chains. Now we have a timing belt oil pumps. The Mini Duramax has that too. One step forward, two steps back.
I have a Toyota 4.7 V8 in a Land Cruiser with a timing belt, it isn't hard to change. The oil pump is driven directly by the crankshaft snout similar to the way an LS is... I think I'll take a timing belt over an oil pump belt any day off the week. Also, the 4.7 Toyota has proven to be capable of doing 1 million miles.
The second generation 2.7 never ceases to amaze me. What a great engine. Thanks for the great video.
I HAVE it in my 2017 twin turbo fusion 150k miles no issues at all but the damn plastic oil pan leaks
I have a 2015 2.7L F-150 with almost 140K miles on it. So far she's still holding up.
And leaks? Those will be starting soon. Ford couldnt figure out how to stop the leaking even before they moved to making it out of plastic
I got one with 70k mile did you hook up an oil separator? Catch can thing or upgrade that oil pan ?
Mine at about 140,000 also. Regular oil changes. No leaks at all. Just changes the coolest about 6 months ago. 36 gallon gas tank gives me about 700+ miles of range and I drive thousand mile trips several times a year. Now if I could get a matching bladder all would be good!😊😊😊
Good point about NOT buying a vehicle with the latest engine. Or a brand new model .
There’s a 2019 out there with 540k, only oil did changes with no problems at all.
I had a 2017. 3 oil pan leak issues in less then 30000 km. After getting the truck back. I drove the truck 100 kms and the tranmission went. 2 days I was driving a tundra
Can't blame anyone going with the 5.7L tundra
Here we go with the Tundra remarks
I have the second generation. Amazing engine. I have 130 kilometers on it and still sounds like new.
7:59 that's exactly why I run Amsoil!! of course mine is a 2018 2nd gen dont have to worry as much.
Brothers Edge ST with the 2.7 oil pan leaked right out the gate and the dealer botched the re sealing of it and rtv clogged the pickup and trashed the motor. 4 months later he had to lemon law it.
Ya the oils pans didnt seal worth shit lol
Whew! Nice to know my 2018 doesn't have many of these early gen issues. No oil pan leaks yet! The 2.7L-TT is a stout little motor.
With my 2016, I was only ever really worried about carbon buildup from the DI. On some hot days the 2.7 and 3.5 EB shake a bit at idle in drive. Ford dealer confirmed as normal, no codes, just a tuning quirk. Overall, loved that engine.
21 2.7L with 80,400 miles. Amazing in EVERY SENSE ❤
2020 f-150 2.7 with 95,000 no issues so far
2018 , no leaks, no issues ever
Everyone I talk to that has a 2.7, friggen love it! Reliability is outstanding and it’s fast.
Great content! Are you able to do a towing video for this engine?
My 5.7 3UR-FE engine is about the most trouble free engine back in 2021. Toyota back then made the best engine back then.
Agreed 100% brother, gotta love the legendary 5.7L I-Force V8 in the Toyota Tundra mate and it'll definitely outlast any EcoBoost powered vehicle with ease by a massive long shot.
Yeah nothing compares to Toyota reliability. I love my Tundra
The little brother 3.5 2GR-FKS in the 21 Tacoma is rock solid too. After the seal issues of the first few model years got ironed out and frame issues of the second-gen it's a bulletproof little machine.
This video had nothing to do with Toyota.
Love that engine in our sequoia. Not to fond of the mpg around town but highway I’ve gotten 21-22mpg and I’ll take that all day
Bravo Ford for adding dual injection! People don’t want engines that are guaranteed to have carbon build up issues.
The 2018 I think is Fords best year in the last ten years. Especially for the F-150's. I personally lined the 5.0's in 2017 before the cylinder changes. But saw a 2022 piston explode and not damage the black which is unreal for the 5.0. Keep in mind the 2.7's block is very well built. The issues I heard and read were the connecting rods bearing going out earlier that they are supposed too. Then the famous oil pump wet belt. Which you know can destroy a Ford engine if not properly checked way before the maintenance cycle.
2.7 powers my wife's 2022 Bronco 4-Dr Wildtrak very well. Turns the factory 35's with ease while getting 19 mpg on the freeway at 70 mph. I'm surprised how quick it is.
We love you are a Ford lover!
Nice to see you be able to say negative things about Ford now HAHAHAHA Love the indepth and truthfully non bias opinions. Love the channel ! Please keep up the amazing work!!
He is biased towards the five oh
Had the oil pan leak used the gen 4 pan revision and it works great with the new gasket. Replaced driver turbo cause common waste gate linkage wearing out. Shutter stop fixed torque converter shutter and I’m at 230k hard Miles and I believe truck has crack in the liquid cooled manifold that’s built into the head and losing coolant. It’s honestly been a great motor but having the gen 1 2.7 has its quirks
Iv put 80,000 miles on my 2018 2.7 hauling 10k+ lbs 5 days a week (huge landscape trailer multiple mowers, sometimes mini excavators, sod, rock) it has 108k miles now and hasn’t blown yet. Looking at getting a 2024 7.3 gas or 6.7 power stroke next. Just out growing the 2.7 but it makes the best run around or road trip truck.
I'm on my third oil pan on my 2018. Had it changed a few years ago and everything is okay for now.
That’s too bad, my ‘18 has never leaked
2015 F-150 2.7 EcoBoost. Resealed sliding back window due to leaking water. Came back shortly after. New oil pan at 60k due to leak, leaked a day after... gave up on that, still leaks. New fuel pump at 75k. Replaced oil sending tube to updated one due to blue burning oil smoke on startup. Issue came back after a few months. Now at 100k I need new turbos due to loss of power and burning a lot of oil through the turbo seals under load... Thanks Ford!
My biggest gripe with the oil belt is really simple: you have to remove the timing chains to get to it. It's the same issue with the 5.0 oil pump belt. If it was in front of the chains, and it was possible to change it without touching the timing system, fine, not as big of a deal. Just like the GM small diesel oil pump belt, it's enough complexity I wouldn't even consider doing it myself. Good information, as always. Looking forward to the next video!
That's why they do it you will bring it to them because of the complexity
Toyota Tundra had timing belt in front of water pump. I ordered one for a guy who had to fix his girlfriends truck. He could not believe it. I showed him the mounting points and dowel pins for the pulleys machined in the front face of the new one. He bought a book and worked on the thing all night long so she could go to work in it.
@@fireflyraven2760 why do anything when it’s not needed? Maybe pull the rank and check to see if there is any wear? Do that just for giggles just like the belt
Pull the crank
@pathunter7003 so uh, when the belt breaks and oil isn't moving through the system, what then I don't like the 2.7l wco because of this fact the oil pump drive is inside the block to gian access to the second gear at the bottom end you have to take the oil pan off so much work for the simplest of things man and for the prices they are asking for it's a little insulting that they are building these vehicles to keep the customer out
I have a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 with 129000 miles ( most are highway miles) so far no problems..it gets good gas mileage with plenty of power... I use castrol full synthetic oil and change each time warning comes on... The 2 things that concern me most are the turbos and oil pump belt....i do wish they had made it a gear driven pump, or at least made it easy to get to for replacement... Love the truck so far, I would buy another with the 2.7 engine... Wanted to trade for a new one at around 95000, miles, but they are way over priced for me...
I have 2020 f150 2.7 at 42k miles normal maintenance every time. No issue.
Just like the supplier issue with the intake valves, (the supplier was supposed to heat treat the valves after machining, which is common process control practice, and specified by the manufacturer) There was a supplier issue affecting early 2016 model year 2.7Ls with heads that were machined out of spec causing head gasket issues and coolant intrusion. Both of these were limited run issues. A correction on the oil pan gasket issue: The oil pan itself was changed several times. The common revision part numbers A, B, C etc. In 2021, Ford introduced revision D, which came with an o-ring style gasket impregnated into the oil pan as one part number, and no longer utilized a separate part number for the gasket, or RTV. Also, the only way someone would be able to tell if there was a leak, is if their oil change tech told them. Ford, along with multiple other manufacturers, is notorious for using compressed fabric splash guards that readily absorb oil leaks. It has to get pretty bad before you see drips on the floor. The oil pan leaking issue also most commonly happens around 100k miles, which is also when every other vehicle starts to leak oil. Older engines with stamped steel oil pans were FAR worse for oil leaks as they only used RTV, with the old GMs needing you to remove the entire steering linkage and drop the diff to service the oil pans on 4x4s. Cast Aluminum oil pans are definitely the best rigidity wise, but are easier to gall up the threads when a lube tech inevitably puts the force of 1,000 suns on the drain plug. That puts me square in the "meh" category when it comes to these Glass filled Nylon pans. Hitting a rock , or running over road debris at 70 mph will destroy any oil pan, regardless of what it's made of. The biggest advantage the plastic pans have is that the pickup tubes are built into the pan, so you replace those, and their screen every time you replace the pan. Less wear garbage in the motor, the better. I agree with you that the weak piece of these 2.7s is that the oil pump is belt driven. That being said, it hasn't really had issues like the 1.0l ecoboost did. I do wish it wasn't a timing job to replace it though.
I got a 2018 with 180000 on it and I love it
2021 f150 2.7 built in August... valve guide went bad at 30k miles damaging the valve and cylinder head, ultimately causing low cylinder compression. It took ford almost 4 months just to get replacement parts and by the time it was repaired i had been issued 6 different loaner trucks
What do you think about catch cans on a 2021 2.7 eco?
Oil changes are the life of any turbo engine for sure! Both for helping keep fuel dilution down but also protecting turbos and everything else. Another bit of advice is on turbo engines it’s a good idea the after you finish driving and come to park and stop let the engine idle for 1-2 mins to let the turbo shaft slow down and also to get the hot oil out of the turbo and let everything cool. When you turn off the engine nothing is circulating to cool anything so if it’s left hot it just bakes itself.
Agreed… I used to have nice private time with my Saab 9-3 letting it spool down in the garage before I turned her off. And now we have auto start-stop messing up the whole cool down process. So stupid. Thankfully we have those defeat buttons.
It’s not the 1980’s anymore, leaving the engine run a bit before shutting it off could be a good idea but not necessary. If needed the engine runs coolant thru the turbo to cool it down after shutting it off, so nothing “bakes”
@@pathunter7003 when the water pump which on 99% of engines currently is only pumping when the engine is running you have no flow of coolant either. Yes the newer ones have coolant going to them for that reason so you don’t have to idle as long but it’s still a good practice…. I work at a large engine test facility and part of the shutdown is stepping down load and RPM the letting the engine idle for about 2mins before shutting down if it didn’t make a difference we wouldn’t be doing that…..
I have a first Gen 2.7 with 84,0000 miles. I have not experienced the oil on top of the valve issue or the timing chain rattle yet.
In reality, the only really common issue is the leaking oil pan. The other issues are MUCH LESS common even on the first generation.
Issues mine had in 30k miles.. stalling while towing, rear main seal, clunking rear differential, failure to start, leaking plastic oil pan, multiple recalls and many others.
Reliability doesnt exist. Not since the cummins 12 valve 😢
That will teach you not to drive a toYota
One of the best engine options out there. Reliable, tunable and efficient, if you stay out of boost lol
Thanks for putting this information out there.....it's very helpful!
I bought my 2.7 with 11,000 miles. I immediately installed a catch-can for the crankcase vent, and I change my oil before 5,000 miles with full synthetic. Hopefully I'll get a long life out of it.
I got a 2.7 in my 2015 f150 with 178k km (+/- 120k miles) and NEVER got an issue. I service it myself with good synthetic oil. I just got a unmentionable "oilleak" from the O-ring on the drainplug.
What about the belt drive for the oil pump that goes through the oil pan? Any failures with this? Seems like an odd design!
Carbon build up on the valves of the direct ejected engines Would oil Catch cans be the solution please respond ???
Yes it would help stop
Oil Catch can and cleaning the TB should help with the carbon buildup on those 1st Gens. Also OCI of 3month/3k with Fully Synthetic Oil will help across the board.
Current gen engine flaws have been addressed as my F150 is perfect. There's a reason the F150 is the best selling truck for 40 consecutive years.
Had the 3.5 eco boost. Threw a rod out the bottom just taking it easy. Always on top of maintenance. I never get a f 150 unless its the coyote v8.
Do a Ford 6.2L review !
What about the rubber belt for the oil pump inside engine?
Its not a rubber belt. Car makers havebeen using them for years and they are reliable
It’s something inside the engine that everybody screams/cries about now, even tho there has been no reported failures. It’s usually just folks that has never have or will own the engine that bitch about it
Such good information 👏
Would love to here your opinion on the 22 and later 2.7 engines thanks
Does the 2022 ford edge ST utilize the dual injection system as well?
Love my 2.7. Question I have is the transmission. Any common issues or things to do preventative wise for the 10 speed?
Mechanically the 10 spd is strong - engineered for 600 lb-ft output. Only thing I've found is it's much happier with a decent sized trailer to pull, rather than putzing around town empty at 35 mph. It tends to rev hang, or shift roughly sometimes going into or out of 4th gear. Dealer knows about it, and it seems to be a programming issue far as I can tell, but they haven't offered a fix on that yet. I would have gone to a speed shop to reprogram it but I don't want to risk voiding my warranty, so I just live with it.
I purchased a new 2018 with 2.7 EcoBoost with 10 speed automation. I've done all recommended services - however at 103,000 miles my 10 speed transmission had a complete failure leaving me stranded. Out of warranty by 3,000 miles, a new transmission cost me $8,407.00 - I am NOT happy about that!
@@dannylawson366 8000$??? Was that the dealer who charged 8k?
Yes. I was told my a couple of other shops in the area that it was the going price, plus the dealer offered a better warranty than they could. (36 months, unlimited miles) The Service Tech said when I picked it up that I had the "new and improved" transmission . . . so I said "so there WAS something wrong with the previous one?" He went silent.
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@@cactuscanuck6802 what you need to do is go to a different dealership, they are blowing smoke up your keister, have them reprogram it
Great video 😊
Thanks! 😊
Hi! I’m thinking of getting a used F-150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost as daily work truck. I have a commute of 40 mile one-way (1.5 hrs) then another 1hr drive home in horrid SoCal traffic. I haul mostly network cabling installation equipment in the bed, and do not tow.
What model year and grade do you recommend? I would like to have some of the newer active safety features such as the automatic emergency braking system to avoid front collisions, but not as critical as long-term reliability and durability. Any suggestions for a late model 2.7 F-150 with Direct and Port Injection. Also, what immediate and affordable engine and transmission mods for reliability and durability are recommended? I’m not looking for more power, just long-term reliability and durability as I don’t have too much money and need a truck for work and personal use. Thank you!
The carbon issue can be fixed with an Italian tuneup. Take it on the highway and drive the snot out of it for 10-15 miles.
Ahhh yes the old Italian Tune up. My fav 😉
Exactly
@@GettysGarage I used to work at a Ford dealership and Nova Scotia Power used quite a few Ecoboost engines and they drove them hard but with very few issues and I think that is the key with direct ingected turbo engines. My 2020 2.7 has a cracked flex plate which is made of aluminum,(dumb move by Ford) and I am awaiting repair.
Fagetabout it
I Have 2018 2.7 Single Cab Long Bed Best Truck Ever Super Reliable
would you recommend buying a used one ? certified used from Ford? im looking at 2018 Ford F150 2.7 ecoboost to buy
What do you think about a catch can on the 2nd gen 2.7l? Do you think it’s a good idea?
I have a 2018 F150 with the 2.7 about 34k on it. Change my oil every 3k, catch can always has a decent amount of blow by gunk in it each time.
Does the Lincoln power plant any good on the nautilus
Hey what u think about the 2018 ford 150 2.7 I wanna buy but not sure if there any issue I should be worried about let me know thank u
There are reported wet oil pump belt issues... degrading belts, belt fibers clogging-up the oil pick up screen, fraying belts and teeth/lugs breaking off the belts = STUPID IDEA!
You Tuber I do cars has a video he takes apart a 2.7 with the rubber oil pump belt which contributed to the engine failure, he’s got another video where he takes apart the previous generation 2.7 and he shows a side by side photo shot oil pump chain/oil pump belt.
These belt failures are out there on the 2.7. Agreed, what a stupid idea having a belt running in oil. The best Ford I owned was with a 300 inline 6, that had over 325,000 miles on it. I totaled the truck out in a crash, and that's what stopped it. F150 1996, and I wish I could buy another new one just like it!
2019 here and my oil pan gasket leaked. Was the same plastic waffle looking pan as the 16/17’s. I also had a cat go bad and transmission had to be rebuilt before 45,000 miles. Luckily all of this was within the four year power train warranty but this worries me for the future.
what about white smoke coming out of exhaust due to water leakes inside turbo chambers ????
2019 f150 4x4 with 2.7L ecoboost, 48k miles. My IWE system completely failed (not an engine problem) but super annoying. Luckily it was covered under power train warranty. Also pinion seal leaking already. I love the engine and agree its one of fords best, but im concerned about the rest of the truck falling apart around the engine. Dont getbme started on the 10R80 transmission that feels like im riding a bucking bronco to and from work everyday
That's what I have and don't have any problem with it.
Using higher grade fuel will also help to reduce carbon build up, since it burns a little bit cleaner.
As important as the oil pump is I would think that it would be geared or at least have easy access to the pump and belt so the engine doesn't need to be pulled.
Another thing I question is the reversed water pump on the 3.5 eco boost,
I saw that lol not sure the thought process behind that. But probably some one smarter then me has a reason
This is my fourth truck with the 2.7l. They have all been pretty good. I run Amsoil in all of them. Had an issue on the current truck(purchased not leased) blew the cold side of the turbo intake (driver side) they claimed egr issue. I think highly unlikely. Currently I’m having power loss but I’m thinking wastegate leaking. Restart and it seems to clear. I’m at 165K k’s on it currently. Looking for some insights.
15-17s (job 1s) have 2 timing chains as well just like the 18-24s. The 15-17 have a chain driven oil pump. 18-24s have a rubber belt driven oil pump. The 2.7 is a great motor. They’re over built for what they are.
Great video. What are your thoughts about the 2.7L in the 2024 Ranger? Worth the extra $2,100 or will the added HP and torque even be noticeable?
Go for it dude that ranger hauls ass and has a tank on an engine
@@abesnpz went with the GMC Canyon AT4. Glad I did. It’s superior in countless ways.
How does the engine cool the turbo and not cook the oil when start-stop is activated? Thanks
Mine started smoking and losing oil I’ve changed out I also gasket both turbos and both of the oil lines going to the turbos
I was able to take out a 2024 F150 with the 2.7 and it really is an impressive engine. I will be shopping for a new truck next year. I currently have a 2019 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 DFM engine. I really like the Chevy and may end up with a new one. But the lifter issue is certainly a concern. Maybe it's not as big of an issue as the internet makes it out to be but it is something that is on my mind. Then I watch many videos of the Ford where owners have put huge miles on their trucks with very little mechanical issue and seem very happy with their Fords. That is the feeling I wish I had with my Chevy and if I did I would buy another one. So maybe it's time to make the switch?
The number one problem with these trucks is the price! Ford abandoned their model of building the most reliable truck for the everyday working man. They switched over to the GM business model of producing the cheapest junk for the highest price you can get for it.
Cousins GMC 2016 Acadia went through 2 engines and a transmission, not that many miles. Also very strangely smelled like propane constantly, everyone could smell it.
Sounds like the 2nd gen is a rock solid option
It's got a rubber belt that drives the oil pump that rides in the engine oil. Will not touch with a 50 foot pole.
Unfortunately so does the 5.0 2021 and later. ☹️
Not my 2015 2.7 it’s a chain
That’s a good idea to stay away from something you know absolutely nothing about
@@pathunter7003 it's such a wild engineering decision you don't even believe it.
I didn't at first either.
@@fraxonthefurry21 you don’t know much of anything until you are told what to believe..
Other vehicle manufacturers use the same belt system but I’m sure you don’t know who they are, that’s the good part😏
I have a 2017 F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost with 167k miles. Currently I am on a list of about 130 waiting for 2.7 rebuilt engine replacement. So far been waiting a month for new rebuilt motor. Will cost about $13k. Blowing lots of white smoke on cold start up then some blue smoke and eventually after about 10-15 minutes it seemingly goes away. Using about one gallon of coolant every 450 miles. Replaced oil supply line to driver's side turbo replaced but that didn't fix it. Dealer said a few different possiblities within coolant system plus one cylinder has small amount of oil in it. Been faithful with recommended service intervals on oil and other fluids. Pretty disappointed. Coolant system is not sufficient in summer when towing about 6000lbs with 90 deg temps. I don't tow all the time either, just small to medium sized boat a few times a year. Had coolant system checked and cleaned last summer (by dealer). It is a very fun a lively engine, but since I have followed all the recommended service intervals (including fuel system service) I think more 2.7 engines will fail in coming years. Dealer admitted some engines of this year have these same issues.
Sorry you’re going through this.
My buddies died at 107 it was a 2016 they are junk