I am a new Ford F150 owner (2018 Lariat 3.5EB) and just found this channel. I have learned so much about trucks in a week than I have in my entire lifetime. I just ordered this for my truck. It already has 41k miles so I hope this helps prolong the life. Thanks!
People are not spending thousands of dollars on maintenance because they don’t have a catch can. The number of cars that have had an aftermarket catch can installed on them is so small that it is statistically insignificant.
@@ramecodiesel8271 I went into this thinking I should get a catch can and came away thinking it's a bad design. What happens when someone buys the vehicle without knowing it's installed or needs maintenance? Eventually it's going to overflow and start puking crankcase oil into the intake manifold or clogging up the PCV. Use a centrifugal collector like you find on a Dyson instead of that screen, let the oil drip from there into small trap. At the bottom of the trap have a diaphragm that is operated by either a bimetallic (thermostat) strip or possibly intake manifold vacuum/pressure. When the engine is hot/running the diaphragm is closed. When the engine is cold, the diaphragm relaxes and lets the collected oil drip back down into the crankcase via the dip tube. Should be close to zero maintenance.
I have a 2013 F-150 w/ 3.5 Ecoboost engine. I installed a UPR oil catch can (large one) that picks up both the driver and passenger side PCV and after several hundred miles I can drain nasty gunk, about 12 oz (into a 16 oz water bottle) that would otherwise be rerouted back to the manifold. I read about these both in F-150 forums and here on U-Tube otherwise I wouldn’t have known about this situation. I installed it around 70K miles and I have almost 120K now. This one isn’t cheap but it’s sturdy, looks good and the hoses are top notch.
I was one of those that thought I wouldn't need one. I replaced my intercooler yesterday on my 2015 3.5EB and probably drained 1-2 tablespoons of oil from it and maybe another 1/2 a tablespoon of oil from the pipes and couplers. I was expecting maybe a drop or two but there was just way more than I thought there would be. The truck has roughly 48,000 miles on it and runs perfectly fine with zero issues. I ordered this catch can this morning.
The nice thing with 2015 and newer Ecoboost engines is that they have both direct injectors and port injectors, so the risk of valve coking isn't as big but blow-by can still be produced (as you saw!). Adding a catch can will definitely be a nice addition! -Zach
I installed a catch can on my 2020 F150 5.0 when the truck had barely a few hundred miles on it. I just drained it today at about 5,100 miles. These things definitely work. I wouldn't consider the amount of oil I drained out of it excessive, but I'm definitely glad it didn't make its way into the intake manifold. I'm using the one from Ford Performance with a fabricated bracket and tubing setup, but I'm sure most of the products on the market would do the job. Definitely a good investment as I plan on owning my truck for quite a while, and definitely want to keep it well maintained.
They work because they catch oil, but that's not the question. The question is - is that needed? Is the oil in the catch can as bad as they all play it to be? You don't know this, I don't know this.
@@nope_not-showing-my-name they did say it's beneficial, it keeps the intake clean and prevents "valve caking". That oil also probably messes with fuel mixture also when it's recirculating throught the engine.
When tearing down my 4.3L Vortec for a rebuild in '04, I noticed quite a bit of gunky oil residue on the inside of the intake manifold and throttle body. After a bit of internet searching, I found out about catch cans and installed one on the new engine and what a difference. I have zero oily build-up in my intake manifold or throttle body after more than 50K miles and I saw about a mile or two MPG increase. Wouldn't drive a modern car w/o one, as they are cheap insurance for your engines longevity, by extracting all of the oil, fuel & water vapors that acidify (and ruin) your motor oil, hence the main reason for needing to change your oil. Less frequent oil changes means money in the bank. That's a win, win in my book.
also if your considering walnut blasting it costed me 395 bucks per side and it restored the lost power robbed by carbon build up from not having the catch can installed, its not 100% gone but id say a good 93% is being caught thus making it well worth the investment!! but I couldn't believe the power it restored from cleaning the valves and installing new injectors its well worth it if you have 120,000 + miles.
I added one to my 2016 2.7, I would empty about half a coffee cup in 2-3 months. I changed my oil every 3,000klm with Signature Series Amsoil 5w30. Just bought a 2021 F150 3.5 Turbo, and within a couple days put the JLT Separator on, was easy pezy. When I checked it after 1 week there was nothing. I checked it a week later and nearly nothing. Still glad it’s on.
YES!... Just started RE-Building my 2008 FOrd F-150 5.4L 3v ...OMG! the VALVES & Intake Manilfold were just like your images. I think all Vehicles should have these installed ! Thx You for making this VID! :) George
For Turbo apps the 3 line can is better as there is no vacuum under boost to keep it flowing but the turbos will pull a vacuum in the air feed ducts when spooled to maintain a constant draw or flow in the catch can. I run an RX can in my 2014 F150 3.5 Ecoboost.
Definitely helped me on my 3.5, in fact I recommend it. Will help with that 2-3 gear hick up. Also use the Lucas oil treatment, definitely helps every 500 miles
Riggin Thorniley hardly any but does collect after awhile. I gone a whole year without cleaning mine out and was only a quarter of the way filled up. 2016 5.0 with the ford performance catch can 👌🏼
Really is hard to beat a catch can as a first mod! Relatively cheap, easy to install, and you can see it working after a couple hundred miles of driving! Thanks for watching and your comment, DJ! -Zach
Now, it would be good to clean your throttle body and the portion of the intake between the where the tube connects, and the intake manifold... and see if it stays clean over a given period of time
There are 'many' different catch-can's on the market, and I was hoping that a few would have been tested, and which would have been the most efficient, at catching the most 'gunk'! Nonetheless, this is a mod I will need to do to my 3.5L Ecoboost, yet now that the truck is at 125K miles, my intercooler tubes I'm sure have a fair bit of oil in them after seeing this video! This looks to be the most simple design I've seen, as some are much more robust systems, with a larger catch-can, as well as some even with vacuum to help suck the oil, so none get's by at all. Thanks for the video, as it gets those of us that haven't had this done, to get our butts busy, and think about which to purchase!
The JTL definitely seems to be a more simplistic model... kind of a bare minimum system. Works better than nothing, but not as fancy or complicated as one that connects to vacuum or has a built-in drain.
Lots of variable depending on maintenance , mileage, and driving habits. Great video, very concise, good lighting, audio and the music wasn't too loud! Bravo!!
I just bought my my very own 2018 F-150 2.7L Ecoboost this week, and this will definitely be my first modification on it. I just happened to stumble upon your guys' channel a couple weeks ago and have been watching your videos constantly in anticipation of upgrading and preserving my new truck. Thank you for doing what you do!
Im right there with you. Just closed the deal on a 19 2.7 STX. Already ordered the exact same catch can showcased in this video lol. Thanks for the video im not the most mechanically inclined but this looks pretty simple to put on. I am curious how often it will have to be emptied out. I cant imagine it would end well if it got totally full and you kept going with it like that.
I've also got a '17 Ecoboost 2.7L (bought at 110k, now at 135k miles) that now has just shown fuel in the oil @ 5000miles like 500cc/pint over full . Oil is still looking clean.. but changing out the injectors before this get any worse as I have a '14 Ecoboost 7007 package 3.5L that is over twice as bad (189k miles) and that one i looking for an engine replacement as I have a rear seal leak also.. let the problem go through two 5k oil changes and the oil is getting dark in 1k. Fuel in the oil will take out the seals. I suggest a throughout changing of all fluids and brake pads every 50k.. Oil changes at least 5k, especially if you bought it used.
Just plug the intake port and route the rubber hose to the back of the motor, pointing down. add one of those small filters if you want. You're just trying to equalize the pressure between the bottom of the crankcase and atmosphere. You might get a few drops of oil per year. Pulling a vacuum on the bottom end of your motor, you're going to pull a lot more oil up, and into the intake. This is really the beginnings of pollution control control devices. From the 1950's to the mid 1960's a 'down draft' tube was the only thing used. thats all you need now. If you take your car to the dealer for any kind of service, put the tube back to the intake, or they will void your warranty for tampering with the pollution control devices. OBD2 can't tell what you've done, so no problem there.
Great kit! Intake staying clean about sticker mileage or higher!. Not catching much with 5w-30 syn. 0 tail pipe soot now! Barrymans b12 in gas.3 tanks. 36,000 miles with 3000 mile oil change max!
dual injection should help to keep the valves cleaner, but at high rpm the catch can should help to keep all the gunk from causing stuttering and loss of power. also the cooler you can keep the catch can the better, to help capture more oil vapor in the can. ive noticed changing the oil around 6 to 7k is the best in my 2016 2.7, full syn only
I have one on my 2011 F150 3.5L ecoboost. I change my oil every 5k miles using ams full synthetic oil. I dump it every time and it’s full with a white Milky substance and oil blow by. Crazy how much stuff it collects great product definitely recommend it for your ecoboost cars or trucks.
With dual injectors or port injectors these may or may not be needed but gear heads know what they want and like. My 2018 5.0 has a separator made and sold by Ford Performance for a Mustang. (Off road application only) I have a You Tube showing its installation ( listed under James Tone). There is oil in it every time I check. 18k miles and was put on the first week. My 2015 Honda Civic has a Moroso installed. They are illegal since you are altering an emissions controlled device. I remove mine to have a he dealer servicing, takes about 5 minutes tops. I believe every engine but especially Supercharged need one of these devices
They are only illegal in CARB approved states that do emissions inspection. If your town doesn’t do emissions inspections, then your fine. But if you are then, might keep the stock hose just in case.
I have the 2011 3.5 Ecoboost on my F150, in the summer I only have to empty the catch can once every month to month and half (about 2 inches in the can), but in the winter it must be emptied every 2 to 3 weeks and it is a mix of water and oil mix and the catch can is almost full. This was definitely one of the best purchases that I had made and wished that I had back when I first bought the truck.
While I didn't personally learn anything from your video, I'd still like to congratulate AT on this video. Anyone without any knowledge of these systems will definitely learn from it... FWIW, I am also running a JLT 3.0 on my VMP boosted Coyote 🍻
“While I didn’t personally learn anything from your comment” I’d still like to congratulate you for sounding rude and full of self centered ego. If you still have a need to prove to people online you’ll never meet in your life that you “didn’t personally learn anything” you have bigger issues in your personal life to learn about.
I’ve run the JLT for maybe 2 years on my 2017 F150 STX and it is collecting some, 5,000 miles oil changes and I empty it. The truck runs great at 45k I really couldn’t be happier, not a mechanic or even slightly mechanical minded, but I thought it would be much more.
@@josemartin530 I live in Iowa and it only seems to get that way up here not often, except for this year. So if it isn’t consistent would it still be warranted to not get one?
What engine? I thought Ford redesigned them (EcoBoost) starting with 2018 models. Changed them to port/direct. 1/2" is nothing. My truck(2018 Silverado 6.2) collect 2oz. per 1,000 miles. UPR dual valve cc
Got my catch can for my 2018 2.7 in the first 2k miles, currently at 20k and I can tell you ive emptied that jlt 3.0 at least twice(if it was full i usually dont wait that long)
@@openyourcoconut4774 Yes sir, I think it really depends on how you drive the truck, if your rippin on it there will probably be more blow by but im more of a reserved driver so it takes quite a few miles for it to get even close to full
I run the same JLT 3.0 on my 3.5 Ecoboost Transit 250 service vehicles. A lot of stop and start plus cold climate. We empty our catch can with every tank of fuel. I get around that much fluid every 3-400 miles (more in winter than summer). It is certainly not full and I am sure we could run through several tanks of fuel with out overfilling. Also .. you can install small ball valve off the bottom of the catch can if you drill and tap it. Then you don't have to un screw a hot can at the gas station. Great Episode!
I have a 2020 F150 with the 2.7L . They claim that with the added port injection that you "should" be fine . But I was finally able to get one , "back ordered" and installed it when I had around 4,000 miles on the truck . To me it seemed like money well spent to keep my intake system clean as possible and was a super easy install and it looks good !
Im curious how it works great? My 2017 Optima that is pure direct Inj can fill up the entire can within 10,000 miles. My 2018 F150 that is Port and Direct Inj'd hasnt built up more than a tablespoon in over 14,000 miles. So im wondering.. since these are great for 2011-2016 ecoboosts
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Ford introduced the gen 2 3.5 Ecoboost in 2017 with direct injection and port injection. The 10 speed transmission was also an option for that year. It was not in 2015.
I had a 2017 and never put one on. I just got a new 2020. I wont put one on that either. I have a mechanic friend that works for ford. He says not needed.
I was amazed at how much it caught after 2 weeks of driving. This product is definitely worth it. I put it in my 2014 f150 5.0 xlt. I just wish the mounting bracket was just a little shorter. But it still clears the hood with no problems.
I have been watching you videos for over a years now! Honestly one of the main factors on getting a ford was because of this UA-cam channel. I finally purchased my 16 3.5 ecoboost, and this was the first install I did. Very happy with this exact product, it’s amazing and disturbing how much hunk that thing catches 👍🏼 great video!
Thank you so much for watching, Tom! Glad to hear you're happy with your new EcoBoost as well as the JLT too! Feel free to reach out if you need any recommendations for the next step in building your rig! -Zach
JLT 3.0 sells out fast, American Trucks had to contact JLT to ship the product to me. Installed it on my high mileage Silverado, it sure made that 5.3 quite. Easy install
As a 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder I don't have a catch can on my 2015 F150 Ecoboost or my wife's 2021 v6 DI engine. Use a good synthetic Oil change every 5k miles, tier 1 gasoline and change the pcv valve and coolant at 50k miles. I see lots of turbo failures but zero intake valve failures!
I drove 895 miles to Texas from Mobile, Alabama, and I only filled up maybe 1/3 of the can or less this catch can has 100% helped my 2011 ecoboost which is some what built to 424 hp and 400+ ftp torque and has 226,829 miles as of today, and is still running like a new motor no cam phaser issues as of yet don't know why either these are bad about it.
Interesting that Ford Performance sells their own catch cans :-) That is a very big hint that these are a good idea! Plus the changes made in some of the EcoBoosts and the 3rd gen Coyote with hybrid injection (both port injectors and GDI).
After I bought my '17 F150 EB I asked around the ford dealership about catch cans and they gave me a while shpeel about how I didn't need it and that I shouldn't jump on the band wagon of people buying unnecessary things for the truck. Yeah, that's what they said. 😠 I did my research and ended up buying this catch can anyway.
Luca Gracia lol. I did the very same thing at my ford dealership. And they said the same thing. I also have a 17 f150. I love my truck. If this part will help keep her clean and powerful I’m doing it.
@@luca2627 I bought a f150 2.7 2016 and asked the service manager at my dealer and he didn't know what I was talking about. My only worry is we bought a very expensive extended warrant and I don't know if this would void it or not. Some say yes, some say no. But ill bet if I have an issue and its on there they will try not to pay some how. My truck only has 55,000 miles on it now. The warranty is good until 150,000 miles. If I wait until warranty is over then put one on it, I am afraid the amount of buildup will be terrible. What to do?
@@josephbenge8707 that's why, just to be on the safe side, I installed it I think at around 20k. Mine has about 47k now. It'd rather be safe than sorry.
I got 2 on my 04 5.4 3v. Had to modify the one for the passenger side some. But both work phenomenally. The driver side catches most. The passenger catches some but I'll take some over none any day. 264k and all original timing
I had one on my 2017 Mustang GT, took it off when I traded the Mustang in for a 2018 F150 and modded it to fit on my 5.0L in the Truck. Love the catch can from JLT
Thanks for the great info as always! Just curious but does the mounting location make much difference... I’ve heard you need to have the can as low and the hoses as short as possible 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks!
I just bought a 05 f150 with a 5.4 Triton and 176000 miles on it, all in all it's a very clean truck. Put it on a scanner, and it threw up the code for the evap. valve . It ran ruff and changing that seemed to make the truck idle smooth. But, when I tried to drive it around the block, under load it would run for a bit, and then it wanted to run ruff. I can smell raw fuel when it's running, but like I said the idle is good. Felt like a slight hesitation at the peddle every so often, setting in park, and revving the motor. I really dont know much about this truck, other than the oil looked good, and it came with two new catalytic converters. The guy who sold it to me said he thought it was a blown head gasket or crack head, but honestly, I really dont believe that 100%. I see no signs of that, plus the oil is clean. I've watched a bunch of videos here, and there is a variety of things that are possibilities. Could you give me a few good places to start looking at as the problem?
Great video!! I have a 2019 3.5L F150. My question concerns freezing issues at very low temps, many owners have reported engine failure. Is this a valid concern and how low do the temps have to be to cause the problem. I'm in NJ.
@@djpadko Sure. Because Internet is great... Put the catch can in the place where the engine is warm enough to evaporate the water and it won't freeze.
Don’t pay $150 or more for a Oil catch can simply by universal one like I did for $40 that comes with a mounting bracket and all the hardware go to your local parts store and pick up in my case 5 feet of hose at a dollar a foot and for under $50 you’re good to go Plus the oil CAT scan that I purchased came with a dipstick so you don’t have to unscrew the Can every time you want to check the oil level.
Planned obsolescence and continued customer purchases through parts and maintenance via the dealership and 3rd parties. After 15 years 3rd parties can make parts for "X" car model/make brand on the secondary market. It's a continuos purchasing loop for the auto industry. They have greatly reduced quality and end of life on parts/vehicles to maximize profits of late though compared from at least the 50s and today.
Not just trucks, I have a 2015 Honda CRV with direct injection and immediately put a moroso catch can on and it definitely works. Empty the gunk every oil change.
Iv got a huge c&l catch can on my 15 Silverado. Hard to say how well it’s worked since this is a mod to maintain performance over a long time rather than boost it at the moment
Great product. Mine catches a lot of oil. I have to empty 3 times every 5000 miles on my 5.0. Runs perfect but definitely not as tight as I would like. It is a high mileage truck.
I had one mounted in front of the radiator on my old truck. A LOT of moisture from condensation since it's colder out front. I'm thinking the JLT might be better because it stays warm with the engine. Less moisture that really doesn't hurt anything.
Now pull your turbo inlet manifolds and see how much of oil condensation has collected inside. When you use this type of catch can setup, you're only collecting the blowby when the turbos aren't building pressure. As soon as they start pressurizing, a bunch of blowby gets introduced into the system. The quickest way to check is to pull the inlet to the throttle body and see if it's full of blowby. If you do have blowby, there are ways to modify the cheaper catch cans to perform like the 400 dollar ones.
I had this installed in my 2011 3.5 ecoboost f 150 after I had the walnut media blast done to all my valves and installed a new throttle body and intake manifold and let me tell you when we took it all apart it was crazy all the build up n stuff was in there now I check it every year and it still has build up but not anything close to what was in there!
To keep your 3.5L as clean as possible, putting one on sooner is better. The newer EcoBoost engines now have both port injection *and* direct injection so gunk building up in your intake won't happen *as* quickly, but it never hurts to have one on anyway as the video shows! -Zach
I have jlt can works great, easy to install took about 10 minutes , put it on at 60,000 miles on my 2011 EcoBoost wish I put it on sooner, I live in Wisconsin so in the winter months I had to buy the extended can because of the moisture, the 3 oz can filled up in less than 400 Miles.
After talking with Ford, Ford mechanics, mechanics, and reading on forums, if you have a 2020 F-150 you do not need a catch can. The problem was addressed.
Dude I got this exact catch can and man it’s amazing to me how much sludge is in it every time. I’m a bit worried the last time I checked it out at the bottom of the van was a bit milky looking but the oil was still oil color.
If you think every manufacturer doesn't need one of these you are wrong. I see them on high powered Mopars here in So Cal all the time. I believe GM actually has some style of one on hi performance engines..... Every engine needs one even my wife slowly Honda Civic.
ben carter I think it would be. It can prevent further build up. I took off the valve cover on a old focus the other day and I under stand why they say to install a catch can. The engine build deposits of like soot idk what it is it’s gunk when you don’t run a catch can. There pricy but I think in the end it’ll be worth it.
Yes I agree this system should be in place of all new vehicles and the pcv system reengineered listen up manufacture do you want to increase your warranty or have issues with the engine that will fall under the warranty and you are responsible to repair it. I think it’s a no brainer good suggestion from a viewer that obviously has the same idea.
Hi Sir have a PT Cruiser 2 litre engine & have 2 breather hoses to the big air box & this was quite awhile ago I decided to check the air filter & so I took the top off the air box off & pulled out the air filter & I was quite shocked to know that the air filter was covered in oil & I ended up taking the whole air box out & I had to clean it all up as there was traces of oil everywhere in the air box & so after cleaning up the air box I went out to buy a new air filter & put that in place in the air box & still having the air box out I then cut the 2 breather hoses & put on 2 new breather filters on & had them resting on the top of the rocker cover & I never thought about a oil catch can & after driving the PT Cruiser around for awhile I noticed oil coming out of the to new breathers & had to wipe the oil up the rocker cover & clean the 2 breather filters & the & later on I couldn't drive the PT Cruiser as the front were way down òn tread depth & weren't warrantable & had the car sitting for about a Year & when I got 2 new tyres for the PT Cruiser & then it went for a Warrant of fitness the PT Cruiser had other issues as well as the ignition switch was faulty & Tony the mechanic couldn't locate a new ignition switch here in New Zealand & so Tony was able to fix the switch & then I asked Tony if he was able to fit a oil catch can with a filter & they had a Repco store here in New Zealand & it was Extremely Expensive the price was $326.00 but Tony was not able to buy it as it was way too big to fit it & fitted 2 new breather hoses to the big air box & just have to put some toilet paper or paper towels inside the big filter box where the 2 breather hoses come into the big air box & I will have to keep an eye on the engine oil dip stick level & it's a real shame that I have a lot of blow by in this engine as it is running quite good to & I will give it another oil & filter change shortly & I am going to get a smaller oil catch can from 1 of the AliExpress Stores that sell good Quality Oil Catch cans with filter & hopefully that will solve my oil problem & would be best to put the 2 breather hose to each side of the Oil Catch Can or wouldn't work & if not work properly I may have to buy a T fitting & have 1 hose going to the in let of the Oil Catch Can with filter & where would be the best part of the engine to put the outlet hose from the Oil Catch Can & I don't have the money to do the engine up & has a lot of blow by problem & that is the only way I can solve the by using a small oil catch can Kind Regards Peter PS I can get this Oil Catch Can with filter for a price of NZ $43.56 which is a really good price to pay for one of these OIL CATCH CANS WITH FILTER & I've seen prices here in New Zealand go from $65.00 right up to $800.00 plus for OIL CATCH CANS & that's CRAZY PRICES
Hey Justin, great explanation. I knew how they worked but sometimes hard to put into words, Good job. Any chance you may know if there is a setup for a 2017 Nissan Titan 5.6l? So far all I can find is universal fit. If not is there a brand you would recommend? Scott
One thing to check! Make sure you can blow through the system before you install it. Sometimes those media filters can be garbage an block off the system a bunch, causing a lot of frustrating leaks!
To expand on what Tom was saying- the magnuson moss act states that a dealer has to prove that the installed aftermarket part is responsible for the failure. For instance- if your transmission goes a dealer can't point to the catch can and say its responsible. Hope this helps! -Justin
I have a 2018 F150 XLT, 3.5... Have this kit, although it's mounted near the firewall. It catches a lot... with 52K+ miles, I've not noticed any performance issues. Minimal investment for a big maintenance / service savings! I don't expect to have to do any sort of GDI Cleaning, before 100K miles... maybe not even then... we'll see
Was going to get the Ford performance oil separator, but apparently they don’t make it for my 2018 Ford F150 5.0. Looks like I may have to go with this particular JLT model.
You facts are slightly twisted. Traditional pretty injection and direct injection didn't come about until 2017 with the second generation ecoboost. 15&16 are still just direct injection
He just made a mistake on one fact. Yes in 2017 the 3.5 eco got both direct and port injection but not the 2.7 ecoboost. That only happened in 2018 along side the 5.0.
Make it ez to take off and put the stock line back on. I remove mine before every service; I just do it eventho cars at that dealership I use have them on. Taxifornia has a 7 years on the first emission test and inspection. They only plug in to the computer to check; but they still do a visual so if I have my truck in 7 years I'll take it off. 5 minutes or less.
No it doesn't effect warranty at all. No check engine light means no emissions problems. They person checking your vehicle doesn't care what mods are on you vehicle. They just collect $ and send you on your way.
@@jamestone265 I leave mine on. Matter fact I had to have my head replaced at 4k due to coolant leak from pin hole. It was actually during the install of my cc and airaid mit that I first noticed the leak after removing the monster hammerhead stock intake that was blocking the view. Dealer never said shit about either. There are laws that cover you for aftermarket mods and such. Basically the burden of proof is on them to prove a mod was the cause. Law is called Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
Make sure you empty it often. I was driving in -20 degree weather and it filled up much quicker. Blew out my crank case pressure sensor. Luckily I caught it before anything else blew.
I am a new Ford F150 owner (2018 Lariat 3.5EB) and just found this channel. I have learned so much about trucks in a week than I have in my entire lifetime. I just ordered this for my truck. It already has 41k miles so I hope this helps prolong the life. Thanks!
Congrats on the new truck and glad you found our channel, Alex! Thanks for watching! -Zach
“Passenger side is where the magic happens” That is very true my friend lol
Not a '06 Mustang 4.6 3v
This should be a standard part of the truck.
Then you wouldn't spend thousands on maintenance
People are not spending thousands of dollars on maintenance because they don’t have a catch can. The number of cars that have had an aftermarket catch can installed on them is so small that it is statistically insignificant.
Thanks to the subtitles across the screen I couldn't see how to hook it all up.. Guess I'll have to check out someone else's better video.
@@michaelrobinson6216 well you could’ve taken those off in the options
@@ramecodiesel8271 I went into this thinking I should get a catch can and came away thinking it's a bad design. What happens when someone buys the vehicle without knowing it's installed or needs maintenance? Eventually it's going to overflow and start puking crankcase oil into the intake manifold or clogging up the PCV.
Use a centrifugal collector like you find on a Dyson instead of that screen, let the oil drip from there into small trap. At the bottom of the trap have a diaphragm that is operated by either a bimetallic (thermostat) strip or possibly intake manifold vacuum/pressure. When the engine is hot/running the diaphragm is closed. When the engine is cold, the diaphragm relaxes and lets the collected oil drip back down into the crankcase via the dip tube. Should be close to zero maintenance.
I have a 2013 F-150 w/ 3.5 Ecoboost engine. I installed a UPR oil catch can (large one) that picks up both the driver and passenger side PCV and after several hundred miles I can drain nasty gunk, about 12 oz (into a 16 oz water bottle) that would otherwise be rerouted back to the manifold. I read about these both in F-150 forums and here on U-Tube otherwise I wouldn’t have known about this situation. I installed it around 70K miles and I have almost 120K now. This one isn’t cheap but it’s sturdy, looks good and the hoses are top notch.
I was one of those that thought I wouldn't need one. I replaced my intercooler yesterday on my 2015 3.5EB and probably drained 1-2 tablespoons of oil from it and maybe another 1/2 a tablespoon of oil from the pipes and couplers. I was expecting maybe a drop or two but there was just way more than I thought there would be. The truck has roughly 48,000 miles on it and runs perfectly fine with zero issues. I ordered this catch can this morning.
The nice thing with 2015 and newer Ecoboost engines is that they have both direct injectors and port injectors, so the risk of valve coking isn't as big but blow-by can still be produced (as you saw!). Adding a catch can will definitely be a nice addition! -Zach
I have the Same truck. Which catch can and from what company are you ordering it from ❓
I installed a catch can on my 2020 F150 5.0 when the truck had barely a few hundred miles on it. I just drained it today at about 5,100 miles. These things definitely work. I wouldn't consider the amount of oil I drained out of it excessive, but I'm definitely glad it didn't make its way into the intake manifold. I'm using the one from Ford Performance with a fabricated bracket and tubing setup, but I'm sure most of the products on the market would do the job. Definitely a good investment as I plan on owning my truck for quite a while, and definitely want to keep it well maintained.
They work because they catch oil, but that's not the question. The question is - is that needed? Is the oil in the catch can as bad as they all play it to be? You don't know this, I don't know this.
@@nope_not-showing-my-name they did say it's beneficial, it keeps the intake clean and prevents "valve caking". That oil also probably messes with fuel mixture also when it's recirculating throught the engine.
@@nope_not-showing-my-name Then don't buy one.
@@MilkMan608why? I have a 23 and I’m thinking about it. Not a good idea?
When tearing down my 4.3L Vortec for a rebuild in '04, I noticed quite a bit of gunky oil residue on the inside of the intake manifold and throttle body. After a bit of internet searching, I found out about catch cans and installed one on the new engine and what a difference. I have zero oily build-up in my intake manifold or throttle body after more than 50K miles and I saw about a mile or two MPG increase. Wouldn't drive a modern car w/o one, as they are cheap insurance for your engines longevity, by extracting all of the oil, fuel & water vapors that acidify (and ruin) your motor oil, hence the main reason for needing to change your oil. Less frequent oil changes means money in the bank. That's a win, win in my book.
I always found it built up in the air intake tube and would forget about it ever time and end up dumping it all over myself
I just ordered one. My low mileage '19 doesn't seem to be using oil, but peace of mind none the less. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
also if your considering walnut blasting it costed me 395 bucks per side and it restored the lost power robbed by carbon build up from not having the catch can installed, its not 100% gone but id say a good 93% is being caught thus making it well worth the investment!! but I couldn't believe the power it restored from cleaning the valves and installing new injectors its well worth it if you have 120,000 + miles.
I added one to my 2016 2.7, I would empty about half a coffee cup in 2-3 months. I changed my oil every 3,000klm with Signature Series Amsoil 5w30.
Just bought a 2021 F150 3.5 Turbo, and within a couple days put the JLT Separator on, was easy pezy. When I checked it after 1 week there was nothing. I checked it a week later and nearly nothing.
Still glad it’s on.
Good Job.
YES!... Just started RE-Building my 2008 FOrd F-150 5.4L 3v ...OMG! the VALVES & Intake Manilfold were just like your images. I think all Vehicles should have these installed ! Thx You for making this VID! :) George
Get your EGR plated off as well
For Turbo apps the 3 line can is better as there is no vacuum under boost to keep it flowing but the turbos will pull a vacuum in the air feed ducts when spooled to maintain a constant draw or flow in the catch can. I run an RX can in my 2014 F150 3.5 Ecoboost.
Definitely helped me on my 3.5, in fact I recommend it. Will help with that 2-3 gear hick up. Also use the Lucas oil treatment, definitely helps every 500 miles
I have one on my 2016 F150 (5.0) and my 2018 Mustang GT (5.0).
"They work"!! BZ AM/AT.
Customer for life! Merica...🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
How much oil does the separator pick up during an oil change interval on the Coyote?
Riggin Thorniley hardly any but does collect after awhile. I gone a whole year without cleaning mine out and was only a quarter of the way filled up.
2016 5.0 with the ford performance catch can 👌🏼
@@JDMImportz1 thanks! I will be installing one when I get my 2015
I didn't know Bradley cooper knew so much about trucks
I needed that haha
I was thinking Homelander
Damn, now I can't unsee that 😅
its limitless
It was one of the first mods I installed on my new 2019 F150 EB3.5L - works GREAT, highly recommended.
Really is hard to beat a catch can as a first mod! Relatively cheap, easy to install, and you can see it working after a couple hundred miles of driving! Thanks for watching and your comment, DJ! -Zach
@@americantrucks It's nothing short of long-term protection for your EXPENSIVE truck at a 1-time cost of $149
@@djpadko $50 on Amazon
Now, it would be good to clean your throttle body and the portion of the intake between the where the tube connects, and the intake manifold... and see if it stays clean over a given period of time
I bought the JLT one and took about 5 minutes to install. I was surprised at how much oil collected in the can after 4000 miles. Good purchase!
smorrow0816 j
How much did you spend if you don’t mind me asking
Great explanation, they should make the can clear like plastic or glass so you can see how much you got in there without having to take it off.
I think heat is the reason against plastic.
Glass could break.
So I would like to see a thin vertical glass window in the side of the can.
There are 'many' different catch-can's on the market, and I was hoping that a few would have been tested, and which would have been the most efficient, at catching the most 'gunk'! Nonetheless, this is a mod I will need to do to my 3.5L Ecoboost, yet now that the truck is at 125K miles, my intercooler tubes I'm sure have a fair bit of oil in them after seeing this video! This looks to be the most simple design I've seen, as some are much more robust systems, with a larger catch-can, as well as some even with vacuum to help suck the oil, so none get's by at all. Thanks for the video, as it gets those of us that haven't had this done, to get our butts busy, and think about which to purchase!
The JTL definitely seems to be a more simplistic model... kind of a bare minimum system. Works better than nothing, but not as fancy or complicated as one that connects to vacuum or has a built-in drain.
@@supermike0822 Do you have any recommendation for more complex/fancy ones?
I would like to see TWO of these put in series and see how much makes it into the 2nd can!
That's actually a fantastic idea and easily doable.
Lots of variable depending on maintenance , mileage, and driving habits. Great video, very concise, good lighting, audio and the music wasn't too loud! Bravo!!
Ya agree
I'm going to do it.
Exactly what I thought too
I just bought my my very own 2018 F-150 2.7L Ecoboost this week, and this will definitely be my first modification on it. I just happened to stumble upon your guys' channel a couple weeks ago and have been watching your videos constantly in anticipation of upgrading and preserving my new truck. Thank you for doing what you do!
Im right there with you. Just closed the deal on a 19 2.7 STX. Already ordered the exact same catch can showcased in this video lol. Thanks for the video im not the most mechanically inclined but this looks pretty simple to put on. I am curious how often it will have to be emptied out. I cant imagine it would end well if it got totally full and you kept going with it like that.
@@toby6858 I see this was a year ago, did you install it and how often do you check/empty it??
I've also got a '17 Ecoboost 2.7L (bought at 110k, now at 135k miles) that now has just shown fuel in the oil @ 5000miles like 500cc/pint over full . Oil is still looking clean.. but changing out the injectors before this get any worse as I have a '14 Ecoboost 7007 package 3.5L that is over twice as bad (189k miles) and that one i looking for an engine replacement as I have a rear seal leak also.. let the problem go through two 5k oil changes and the oil is getting dark in 1k. Fuel in the oil will take out the seals. I suggest a throughout changing of all fluids and brake pads every 50k.. Oil changes at least 5k, especially if you bought it used.
Just plug the intake port and route the rubber hose to the back of the motor, pointing down. add one of those small filters if you want. You're just trying to equalize the pressure between the bottom of the crankcase and atmosphere. You might get a few drops of oil per year. Pulling a vacuum on the bottom end of your motor, you're going to pull a lot more oil up, and into the intake. This is really the beginnings of pollution control control devices. From the 1950's to the mid 1960's a 'down draft' tube was the only thing used. thats all you need now. If you take your car to the dealer for any kind of service, put the tube back to the intake, or they will void your warranty for tampering with the pollution control devices. OBD2 can't tell what you've done, so no problem there.
Great kit! Intake staying clean about sticker mileage or higher!. Not catching much with 5w-30 syn. 0 tail pipe soot now! Barrymans b12 in gas.3 tanks. 36,000 miles with 3000 mile oil change max!
dual injection should help to keep the valves cleaner, but at high rpm the catch can should help to keep all the gunk from causing stuttering and loss of power. also the cooler you can keep the catch can the better, to help capture more oil vapor in the can. ive noticed changing the oil around 6 to 7k is the best in my 2016 2.7, full syn only
You wait that long to change oil, damn I change mine every 5k
@@gavinlee9478 I change it at or about 3,500k in my 2014 ecoboost . I'm not taking any chances. Oil is cheap...
Good advise, I put one of these on my F150 / 5.0 L . This catch can is a good addition & will help with the engine life. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome vid, just bought a 2016 with only 23000 miles... my good friend said get an oil separator... now i know why... Great channel
They're definitely a helpful little mod for any engine out there! Thanks for watching! -Zach
I have one on my 2011 F150 3.5L ecoboost. I change my oil every 5k miles using ams full synthetic oil. I dump it every time and it’s full with a white Milky substance and oil blow by. Crazy how much stuff it collects great product definitely recommend it for your ecoboost cars or trucks.
I would be concerned about a head gasket
I have a 14 eco that I’m getting the same milky fluid!???????
With dual injectors or port injectors these may or may not be needed but gear heads know what they want and like. My 2018 5.0 has a separator made and sold by Ford Performance for a Mustang. (Off road application only) I have a You Tube showing its installation ( listed under James Tone). There is oil in it every time I check. 18k miles and was put on the first week. My 2015 Honda Civic has a Moroso installed.
They are illegal since you are altering an emissions controlled device. I remove mine to have a he dealer servicing, takes about 5 minutes tops.
I believe every engine but especially Supercharged need one of these devices
They are only illegal in CARB approved states that do emissions inspection. If your town doesn’t do emissions inspections, then your fine. But if you are then, might keep the stock hose just in case.
I have the 2011 3.5 Ecoboost on my F150, in the summer I only have to empty the catch can once every month to month and half (about 2 inches in the can), but in the winter it must be emptied every 2 to 3 weeks and it is a mix of water and oil mix and the catch can is almost full. This was definitely one of the best purchases that I had made and wished that I had back when I first bought the truck.
While I didn't personally learn anything from your video, I'd still like to congratulate AT on this video. Anyone without any knowledge of these systems will definitely learn from it... FWIW, I am also running a JLT 3.0 on my VMP boosted Coyote 🍻
“While I didn’t personally learn anything from your comment” I’d still like to congratulate you for sounding rude and full of self centered ego. If you still have a need to prove to people online you’ll never meet in your life that you “didn’t personally learn anything” you have bigger issues in your personal life to learn about.
I’ve run the JLT for maybe 2 years on my 2017 F150 STX and it is collecting some, 5,000 miles oil changes and I empty it. The truck runs great at 45k I really couldn’t be happier, not a mechanic or even slightly mechanical minded, but I thought it would be much more.
Ive heard these can freeze up in harsh winter conditions (-30c) and cause engine damage. Is that true?
@@jordanalexander1592 yes it’s true, take in account those lines routing your catchcan, they collect oil and condensation of water.
@@josemartin530 well if this is to happen how can one prevent this from failing?
@@joshr19821 if you live in -30c I wouldn’t install a catch can.
@@josemartin530 I live in Iowa and it only seems to get that way up here not often, except for this year. So if it isn’t consistent would it still be warranted to not get one?
Oh yeah, I'm definitely getting this.
My 2015 5.0 F150 is my BABY!!!
Gotta keep her clean! 😂😁 -Zach
Put one on my 2017 5.0 two months ago. I have emptied it 3 times been about 1/2 full each time. works well
How many miles does it take you to get 1/2 full?
It doesn't do anything since the injectors wash the valves. It's a placebo
Have it on my 2018 straight from the factory, made dealer install, and that thing is great. i get about a 1/2" in the bottom roughly every oil change.
What engine? I thought Ford redesigned them (EcoBoost) starting with 2018 models. Changed them to port/direct.
1/2" is nothing. My truck(2018 Silverado 6.2) collect 2oz. per 1,000 miles. UPR dual valve cc
@@MrVegaslive ouch, 2.7 l EcoBoost. 1/2" or not dont want that in the intercooler or back in the engine.
I ordered this from AmericanTrucks and I have to say it works !!! I empty it once month of all the gunk it collects !!
Thats what we like to hear! Thanks for ordering and for watching! -Zach
The back seat is where the magic happens! Great channel! Great vid
Got my catch can for my 2018 2.7 in the first 2k miles, currently at 20k and I can tell you ive emptied that jlt 3.0 at least twice(if it was full i usually dont wait that long)
I just ordered one for my 2017 2.7, you still running yours?
@@openyourcoconut4774 Yes sir, I think it really depends on how you drive the truck, if your rippin on it there will probably be more blow by but im more of a reserved driver so it takes quite a few miles for it to get even close to full
So what's in the can? Every video that I've seen it just looks like oil in the can...it doesn't look like shavings or particles or anything.
I run the same JLT 3.0 on my 3.5 Ecoboost Transit 250 service vehicles. A lot of stop and start plus cold climate. We empty our catch can with every tank of fuel. I get around that much fluid every 3-400 miles (more in winter than summer). It is certainly not full and I am sure we could run through several tanks of fuel with out overfilling. Also .. you can install small ball valve off the bottom of the catch can if you drill and tap it. Then you don't have to un screw a hot can at the gas station.
Great Episode!
I have a 2020 F150 with the 2.7L . They claim that with the added port injection that you "should" be fine . But I was finally able to get one , "back ordered" and installed it when I had around 4,000 miles on the truck . To me it seemed like money well spent to keep my intake system clean as possible and was a super easy install and it looks good !
Any update, was it worth it?
Wow. This is amazing. Heard of catch cans, but had no idea what they actually did until now. Thanks Justin. Ordering for my new 2019 Raptor TODAY!
Great video! I installed duel catch cans (one for each side) on my 2016 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 15k ago and collect an average 1 ounce per 1,000 miles.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
Put this exact setup on my '18 within a week of leaving the dealership..works great!
Super glad to hear you're enjoying the JLT! Thanks for watching! -Zach
Im curious how it works great? My 2017 Optima that is pure direct Inj can fill up the entire can within 10,000 miles. My 2018 F150 that is Port and Direct Inj'd hasnt built up more than a tablespoon in over 14,000 miles. So im wondering.. since these are great for 2011-2016 ecoboosts
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You can purchase this exact oil catch can at the following link! -Zach www.americantrucks.com/jlt-v3-oil-separator-ps-black-1116.html
Mine should be in this coming week. Thanks for the video and tip. I have a 2016 2.7 eco boost
2018 f150 3.5 here, I pulled about a half can out at my last oil change. JLT 3.0.
Installed passenger side separator on my 2.7 L 2015 Ecoboost summer 2019. Works fine.
Ford introduced the gen 2 3.5 Ecoboost in 2017 with direct injection and port injection. The 10 speed transmission was also an option for that year. It was not in 2015.
Do you still need this for the second gen
I had a 2017 and never put one on. I just got a new 2020. I wont put one on that either. I have a mechanic friend that works for ford. He says not needed.
DeAtley Crushing Service ok thanks how many miles did you put on the 2017?
@@stevenjr713 about 120,000. Ran perfect. I just wanted a new one.
DeAtley Crushing Service ok thanks for the help
I put one on my 2019 Silverado and it's working great!
I was amazed at how much it caught after 2 weeks of driving. This product is definitely worth it. I put it in my 2014 f150 5.0 xlt. I just wish the mounting bracket was just a little shorter. But it still clears the hood with no problems.
How much did you collect over how many miles?
@@dmitrynikgt its gets about half to three quarters full every 2 weeks
Backpacker365 how many miles approximately is that? And do you loose oil between oil changes?
@@dmitrynikgt probably between 900 and 1200 miles. You might loose a few ounces of oil. I think its only a 5 ounce can
I have been watching you videos for over a years now! Honestly one of the main factors on getting a ford was because of this UA-cam channel. I finally purchased my 16 3.5 ecoboost, and this was the first install I did. Very happy with this exact product, it’s amazing and disturbing how much hunk that thing catches 👍🏼 great video!
Thank you so much for watching, Tom! Glad to hear you're happy with your new EcoBoost as well as the JLT too! Feel free to reach out if you need any recommendations for the next step in building your rig! -Zach
JLT 3.0 sells out fast, American Trucks had to contact JLT to ship the product to me. Installed it on my high mileage Silverado, it sure made that 5.3 quite. Easy install
My truck is a 2013 Ecoboost .... my separator catches more water vapor with the oil, a lot more.
My 14 does as well, I have to empty it about every 1000 miles.
What's the purpose sorry he shows in the video, is this to help the intercooler for the turbos?
As a 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder I don't have a catch can on my 2015 F150 Ecoboost or my wife's 2021 v6 DI engine. Use a good synthetic Oil change every 5k miles, tier 1 gasoline and change the pcv valve and coolant at 50k miles. I see lots of turbo failures but zero intake valve failures!
Put that on mine the other day. Kind of looking forward to seeing what comes out.
how much gunk has came out since then?
It’s been a good amount... seems to be working it’s way out of the system. I have dumped it a few times
@@ryandanzey6953 is it a 5.0 f150?
3.5 liter ecobeast
I drove 895 miles to Texas from Mobile, Alabama, and I only filled up maybe 1/3 of the can or less this catch can has 100% helped my 2011 ecoboost which is some what built to 424 hp and 400+ ftp torque and has 226,829 miles as of today, and is still running like a new motor no cam phaser issues as of yet don't know why either these are bad about it.
Interesting that Ford Performance sells their own catch cans :-)
That is a very big hint that these are a good idea!
Plus the changes made in some of the EcoBoosts and the 3rd gen Coyote with hybrid injection (both port injectors and GDI).
After I bought my '17 F150 EB I asked around the ford dealership about catch cans and they gave me a while shpeel about how I didn't need it and that I shouldn't jump on the band wagon of people buying unnecessary things for the truck. Yeah, that's what they said. 😠 I did my research and ended up buying this catch can anyway.
or smart on their end sense so many people buy stuff they don't need, now they can say "OEM"
Luca Gracia lol. I did the very same thing at my ford dealership. And they said the same thing. I also have a 17 f150. I love my truck. If this part will help keep her clean and powerful I’m doing it.
@@luca2627 I bought a f150 2.7 2016 and asked the service manager at my dealer and he didn't know what I was talking about. My only worry is we bought a very expensive extended warrant and I don't know if this would void it or not. Some say yes, some say no. But ill bet if I have an issue and its on there they will try not to pay some how. My truck only has 55,000 miles on it now. The warranty is good until 150,000 miles. If I wait until warranty is over then put one on it, I am afraid the amount of buildup will be terrible. What to do?
@@josephbenge8707 that's why, just to be on the safe side, I installed it I think at around 20k. Mine has about 47k now. It'd rather be safe than sorry.
I got 2 on my 04 5.4 3v. Had to modify the one for the passenger side some. But both work phenomenally. The driver side catches most. The passenger catches some but I'll take some over none any day. 264k and all original timing
can you show me witch you purchased and how did you do the passenger one i have an 07 f150 5.4
Did they improve the design on the engine. I just bought a 2020 f150 ecoboost. Should I install one of these.
Don't need a catch can if you have dual injectors.
It’s still a good idea if you want to get the most life out of it.
Dual port injection supposedly eliminates this issue, however it doesnt hurt to put one on.
I had one on my 2017 Mustang GT, took it off when I traded the Mustang in for a 2018 F150 and modded it to fit on my 5.0L in the Truck. Love the catch can from JLT
Thanks for the great info as always! Just curious but does the mounting location make much difference... I’ve heard you need to have the can as low and the hoses as short as possible 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks!
I just bought a 05 f150 with a 5.4 Triton and 176000 miles on it, all in all it's a very clean truck. Put it on a scanner, and it threw up the code for the evap. valve . It ran ruff and changing that seemed to make the truck idle smooth. But, when I tried to drive it around the block, under load it would run for a bit, and then it wanted to run ruff. I can smell raw fuel when it's running, but like I said the idle is good. Felt like a slight hesitation at the peddle every so often, setting in park, and revving the motor. I really dont know much about this truck, other than the oil looked good, and it came with two new catalytic converters. The guy who sold it to me said he thought it was a blown head gasket or crack head, but honestly, I really dont believe that 100%. I see no signs of that, plus the oil is clean.
I've watched a bunch of videos here, and there is a variety of things that are possibilities. Could you give me a few good places to start looking at as the problem?
Great video!! I have a 2019 3.5L F150. My question concerns freezing issues at very low temps, many owners have reported engine failure. Is this a valid concern and how low do the temps have to be to cause the problem. I'm in NJ.
@@cl5163 I was hoping to hear from Justin or A/T ... nothing to date :(
Freezing oil?
@@SorinNicu It's all over the web, go search it and then decide for yourself.
@@djpadko Sure. Because Internet is great...
Put the catch can in the place where the engine is warm enough to evaporate the water and it won't freeze.
Don’t pay $150 or more for a Oil catch can simply by universal one like I did for $40 that comes with a mounting bracket and all the hardware go to your local parts store and pick up in my case 5 feet of hose at a dollar a foot and for under $50 you’re good to go Plus the oil CAT scan that I purchased came with a dipstick so you don’t have to unscrew the Can every time you want to check the oil level.
May be a dumb question, but why don't these manufacturers have this under the hood with all the other components already.
Planned obsolescence and continued customer purchases through parts and maintenance via the dealership and 3rd parties. After 15 years 3rd parties can make parts for "X" car model/make brand on the secondary market. It's a continuos purchasing loop for the auto industry. They have greatly reduced quality and end of life on parts/vehicles to maximize profits of late though compared from at least the 50s and today.
Keeping the service department busy is job one.
Not just trucks, I have a 2015 Honda CRV with direct injection and immediately put a moroso catch can on and it definitely works. Empty the gunk every oil change.
after doing Intake gaskets on my 04 Expedition I am going to put one of these on. For a engine with only 150k it has so much carbon buildup.
Iv got a huge c&l catch can on my 15 Silverado. Hard to say how well it’s worked since this is a mod to maintain performance over a long time rather than boost it at the moment
I would be having a panic attack driving around with that CAI setup. You can see mud is getting past the shielding around the air filter.
I put one on mine and it’s nuts how much crap come out. It’s a really good item to get.
Very good review of catch can 👌
Great product. Mine catches a lot of oil. I have to empty 3 times every 5000 miles on my 5.0. Runs perfect but definitely not as tight as I would like. It is a high mileage truck.
What year and how many miles
Have one on mine. Collects lots of moisture too.
I had one mounted in front of the radiator on my old truck. A LOT of moisture from condensation since it's colder out front. I'm thinking the JLT might be better because it stays warm with the engine. Less moisture that really doesn't hurt anything.
If you install that in a location that's heated by engine bay air, the moisture or un-burned fuel will evaporate and get sucked into the intake.
Now pull your turbo inlet manifolds and see how much of oil condensation has collected inside. When you use this type of catch can setup, you're only collecting the blowby when the turbos aren't building pressure. As soon as they start pressurizing, a bunch of blowby gets introduced into the system. The quickest way to check is to pull the inlet to the throttle body and see if it's full of blowby. If you do have blowby, there are ways to modify the cheaper catch cans to perform like the 400 dollar ones.
Great explanation. I think these are super useful in most applications.
Thanks for watching, Nigel! We appreciate it! -Zach
I have one of these on my 2011 Raptor. Has over 200k miles, i regularly drive from TX to Cali ... I cant believe i didnt get this sooner.
Don’t need one on my 73 F350.
Yet
I had this installed in my 2011 3.5 ecoboost f 150 after I had the walnut media blast done to all my valves and installed a new throttle body and intake manifold and let me tell you when we took it all apart it was crazy all the build up n stuff was in there now I check it every year and it still has build up but not anything close to what was in there!
I have a brand new 2019 f150 XLT 3.5 ecoboost. I’ve put less than 1k miles on it so far. When should I look at installing one??
Yesterday
To keep your 3.5L as clean as possible, putting one on sooner is better. The newer EcoBoost engines now have both port injection *and* direct injection so gunk building up in your intake won't happen *as* quickly, but it never hurts to have one on anyway as the video shows! -Zach
@@americantrucks Do you know of the new 3.0L used in the 2020 Explorer also has port/direct injection combo?
As soon as you bought it
I have jlt can works great, easy to install took about 10 minutes , put it on at 60,000 miles on my 2011 EcoBoost wish I put it on sooner, I live in Wisconsin so in the winter months I had to buy the extended can because of the moisture, the 3 oz can filled up in less than 400 Miles.
Where did you get the bigger can and how much bigger is it
My can
was bone dry for 3,000 miles. It’s starting to fill up now.
After talking with Ford, Ford mechanics, mechanics, and reading on forums, if you have a 2020 F-150 you do not need a catch can. The problem was addressed.
i have 45k miles on my 3.5 2015 ecovoost should i still go ahead n throw one of these on there ? lol i run 93 octane
If you want to, definitely! It's never too late to start catching blowby! -Zach
Dude I got this exact catch can and man it’s amazing to me how much sludge is in it every time. I’m a bit worried the last time I checked it out at the bottom of the van was a bit milky looking but the oil was still oil color.
Condensation? 🥪
Any issues with truck under warranty? Makes great sense to me. Thanks for the video
The dealership I bought my 2018 F 150 said if did anything including adding a catch can it would void my warranty?
I seriously learned a lot in the first 30 seconds! I have not had a ford since 2017.
Thanks for watching, Leland! We appreciate it! -Zach
Both of my cars have turbos and had been debating them, I’m glad I found this because it solidified my thoughts on purchasing them.
If you think every manufacturer doesn't need one of these you are wrong. I see them on high powered Mopars here in So Cal all the time. I believe GM actually has some style of one on hi performance engines..... Every engine needs one even my wife slowly Honda Civic.
I'm already at about 75k miles, would it still be beneficial to install one having already put that many miles on my engine without one?
ben carter I think it would be. It can prevent further build up. I took off the valve cover on a old focus the other day and I under stand why they say to install a catch can. The engine build deposits of like soot idk what it is it’s gunk when you don’t run a catch can. There pricy but I think in the end it’ll be worth it.
From what I can tell it would help but I haven't seen any real science to prove these things are really beneficial.
Half Star Films I would think vehicle manufacturers would install them before selling the car if it was beneficial.
Yes I agree this system should be in place of all new vehicles and the pcv system reengineered listen up manufacture do you want to increase your warranty or have issues with the engine that will fall under the warranty and you are responsible to repair it. I think it’s a no brainer good suggestion from a viewer that obviously has the same idea.
What happens if the can gets full before you empty it. Can it do any damage to the engine if you run it full. Thanks
It'll start smoking like one of those skywriting planes
Hi Sir have a PT Cruiser 2 litre engine & have 2 breather hoses to the big air box & this was quite awhile ago I decided to check the air filter & so I took the top off the air box off & pulled out the air filter & I was quite shocked to know that the air filter was covered in oil & I ended up taking the whole air box out & I had to clean it all up as there was traces of oil everywhere in the air box & so after cleaning up the air box I went out to buy a new air filter & put that in place in the air box & still having the air box out I then cut the 2 breather hoses & put on 2 new breather filters on & had them resting on the top of the rocker cover & I never thought about a oil catch can & after driving the PT Cruiser around for awhile I noticed oil coming out of the to new breathers & had to wipe the oil up the rocker cover & clean the 2 breather filters & the & later on I couldn't drive the PT Cruiser as the front were way down òn tread depth & weren't warrantable & had the car sitting for about a Year & when I got 2 new tyres for the PT Cruiser & then it went for a Warrant of fitness the PT Cruiser had other issues as well as the ignition switch was faulty & Tony the mechanic couldn't locate a new ignition switch here in New Zealand & so Tony was able to fix the switch & then I asked Tony if he was able to fit a oil catch can with a filter & they had a Repco store here in New Zealand & it was Extremely Expensive the price was $326.00 but Tony was not able to buy it as it was way too big to fit it & fitted 2 new breather hoses to the big air box & just have to put some toilet paper or paper towels inside the big filter box where the 2 breather hoses come into the big air box & I will have to keep an eye on the engine oil dip stick level & it's a real shame that I have a lot of blow by in this engine as it is running quite good to & I will give it another oil & filter change shortly & I am going to get a smaller oil catch can from 1 of the AliExpress Stores that sell good Quality Oil Catch cans with filter & hopefully that will solve my oil problem & would be best to put the 2 breather hose to each side of the Oil Catch Can or wouldn't work & if not work properly I may have to buy a T fitting & have 1 hose going to the in let of the Oil Catch Can with filter & where would be the best part of the engine to put the outlet hose from the Oil Catch Can & I don't have the money to do the engine up & has a lot of blow by problem & that is the only way I can solve the by using a small oil catch can Kind Regards Peter PS I can get this Oil Catch Can with filter for a price of NZ $43.56 which is a really good price to pay for one of these OIL CATCH CANS WITH FILTER & I've seen prices here in New Zealand go from $65.00 right up to $800.00 plus for OIL CATCH CANS & that's CRAZY PRICES
Hey Justin, great explanation. I knew how they worked but sometimes hard to put into words, Good job. Any chance you may know if there is a setup for a 2017 Nissan Titan 5.6l? So far all I can find is universal fit. If not is there a brand you would recommend?
Scott
Boom!
www.jlttruecoldair.com/jlt-3-0-oil-separator-03-15-nissan-titan-5-6l-passenger-side/
Thanks for the kind words Scott! -Justin
One thing to check! Make sure you can blow through the system before you install it. Sometimes those media filters can be garbage an block off the system a bunch, causing a lot of frustrating leaks!
Does this void the warranty?
LiteTackleChamp magnison-moss act, not sure I spelt that right but look it up.
To expand on what Tom was saying- the magnuson moss act states that a dealer has to prove that the installed aftermarket part is responsible for the failure. For instance- if your transmission goes a dealer can't point to the catch can and say its responsible. Hope this helps! -Justin
I have a 2018 F150 XLT, 3.5...
Have this kit, although it's mounted near the firewall. It catches a lot... with 52K+ miles, I've not noticed any performance issues. Minimal investment for a big maintenance / service savings! I don't expect to have to do any sort of GDI Cleaning, before 100K miles... maybe not even then... we'll see
Which kit did you get, Steve? I'm looking at some now.
I'm guessing the JLT
Yes... JLT... Simple install and effective.
I have collected way way more than that in 2000 miles..yikes
Yeah the first time he checked it looked like a good amount, im guessing it spilled over from the rough driving tests
Was going to get the Ford performance oil separator, but apparently they don’t make it for my 2018 Ford F150 5.0. Looks like I may have to go with this particular JLT model.
You facts are slightly twisted. Traditional pretty injection and direct injection didn't come about until 2017 with the second generation ecoboost. 15&16 are still just direct injection
He just made a mistake on one fact. Yes in 2017 the 3.5 eco got both direct and port injection but not the 2.7 ecoboost. That only happened in 2018 along side the 5.0.
Thank you for catching this, I have a 2015 F150 and didn’t think he was correct about it having dual injection.
@@sergeysmelnik ok
@@well_as_an_expert_id_say ok
@@sergeysmelnik glad we've come to an agreement
I have one of those on my 6.2 Chevy Trail Boss, I love it. Wish they would come out with one for the passenger side!
Does this affect your warranty and is it legal to add for pollution control in states that require smog checks?
Make it ez to take off and put the stock line back on. I remove mine before every service; I just do it eventho cars at that dealership I use have them on. Taxifornia has a 7 years on the first emission test and inspection. They only plug in to the computer to check; but they still do a visual so if I have my truck in 7 years I'll take it off. 5 minutes or less.
No it doesn't effect warranty at all. No check engine light means no emissions problems. They person checking your vehicle doesn't care what mods are on you vehicle. They just collect $ and send you on your way.
@@jamestone265 I leave mine on. Matter fact I had to have my head replaced at 4k due to coolant leak from pin hole. It was actually during the install of my cc and airaid mit that I first noticed the leak after removing the monster hammerhead stock intake that was blocking the view.
Dealer never said shit about either.
There are laws that cover you for aftermarket mods and such. Basically the burden of proof is on them to prove a mod was the cause. Law is called Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
Completely legal, and would likely improve smog emissions. You just have to dispose of the "gunk" properly, as if you would oil.
it would actually improve your emissions because you are not burning that oil.
Make sure you empty it often. I was driving in -20 degree weather and it filled up much quicker. Blew out my crank case pressure sensor. Luckily I caught it before anything else blew.
I’m getting one of these and I live in MN. I just have to make sure I empty it often and I have nothing to worry about correct?