Claudine Longet Case Analysis | Bathroom Firearm Lesson Gone Bad or Murder?

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  • @suereeves5994
    @suereeves5994 2 роки тому +114

    Glad you covered this one. When celebrity walks in the front door of the courtroom, justice walks straight out the back.

    • @dianeparr2483
      @dianeparr2483 2 роки тому +6

      Great comment. Haven't heard that expression before ,👍

    • @tomscerbo1588
      @tomscerbo1588 2 роки тому +6

      Yes I couldn't say it any better than that! That's are legal system!😔😔😝👎

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 2 роки тому +7

      A study of over 70,000 court cases also show a sentencing hierarchy, the shortest sentences go the well off, educated women. If the woman is young and attractive, even more so.

    • @axer3515
      @axer3515 2 роки тому +1

      Check again. It cuts both ways. Often well known people are made example of. The best measure of getting away with a crime is money.

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis Рік тому

      @@gregb3457 .
      That wasn't what the study found. Wealth is often connected with education.

  • @natekeyes2297
    @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +145

    The fact that Claudine was attractive and spoke with a charming French accident probably did influence the jury. I also would not discount Andy Williams' role. He was a very charming man with a squeaky-clean reputation. As mentioned, he had a TV show and a long career as a recording artist. He was widely loved by the American public. He not only testified for Claudine, he attended the trial every day to support her. I would imagine the jury gave a lot of weight to his testimony and his presence at the trial.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 2 роки тому +8

      "a charming French accident " -- Was that how her attorney characterised it?

    • @natekeyes2297
      @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +7

      @@onepartyroule Good catch! Or maybe he said she had accidental French charm.

    • @shawnnewell4541
      @shawnnewell4541 2 роки тому +2

      They did.

    • @marian.jablonski54
      @marian.jablonski54 2 роки тому +9

      Yes, Andy Williams was the all-American boy. He did an annual Christmas special for a couple of years - which was supposedly filmed in their home - I remember one where Claudine had a newborn on her lap along with two other young children. They were a very attractive couple.

    • @melissa9375
      @melissa9375 2 роки тому +8

      Not wanting to analyze anyone, but could the use of the word 'accident' instead of 'accent' (above) be a Freudian slip? ; )

  • @margaretmcgill526
    @margaretmcgill526 2 роки тому +135

    Claudine had this I am a fragile French girl thing going on that she got a lot of mileage out of. Very appealing. I suspect justice was not served because of that.

    • @Tindometari
      @Tindometari 2 роки тому +5

      I knew a woman once who had that fragile French girl thing going on.
      She was in the SCA, and fought two-swords, and made a very strong bid to become the first Queen of the East Kingdom to be crowned by right of arms. (SCA rattan fighting is an exciting martial sport that makes rugby look like cricket.) This was before she went to prison for knifing her girlfriend.

    • @OGitGirlJess
      @OGitGirlJess 2 роки тому

      Things haven’t changed much.

    • @OGitGirlJess
      @OGitGirlJess 2 роки тому +2

      @@Tindometari I damn near spit out my water!

    • @ransakreject5221
      @ransakreject5221 2 роки тому

      Clearly female privilege

  • @rayross997
    @rayross997 2 роки тому +224

    Longet's & Spider the skier's relationship went "downhill". Someone had to say it.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +23

      Now go to your room!😂

    • @scottricci5063
      @scottricci5063 2 роки тому +11

      Went "downhill" on all that Peruvian "snow".🤘😁🤘

    • @Tindometari
      @Tindometari 2 роки тому +10

      One might even say they slalomed through all that lovely white powder.

    • @onepartyroule
      @onepartyroule 2 роки тому +9

      Sounds like she was piste at him =/
      You started it.

    • @mybusiness9705
      @mybusiness9705 2 роки тому +2

      Thankyou for ur bravery🤗

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 2 роки тому +89

    Incomplete list of things that don't work out:
    Bathroom firearm lessons.
    Bathroom gymnastics lessons.
    Bathroom chess tournaments.
    Bathroom ice cream shops.
    And of course, moving in with a guy named Spider.

    • @berlinetta____2680
      @berlinetta____2680 2 роки тому +1

      I can vouch for number 2...I still have the scar 😛

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому

      Yes, and seriously, it seems to me she was very stupid to leave Andy Williams.

    • @malkaz9167
      @malkaz9167 2 роки тому +1

      @@bluecollarlit What makes you think she left him? Andy Williams said that she had a crazy, volatile temper. Maybe, he left her.

    • @littleredwitch
      @littleredwitch Рік тому +1

      Or moving in with a girl called Claudine.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 7 місяців тому

      Moving in with South African runner without lower legs but still a runner not safe in bathroom there either.

  • @malkaz9167
    @malkaz9167 2 роки тому +28

    Drugs, alcohol, Longet’s dependence on men, her anger management and impulsivity problems, a gun, jealousy…..what could go wrong here? Longet dodged a bullet, so to speak because of her sweet little voice (I remember the trial.) and her beauty and fame. She murdered a man and got away with it!! The fact that her lawyer married her after knowing all the facts of the case is a mystery to me. I wonder how her kids turned out having her for a mother.

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 10 місяців тому

      Some woman married one of the Mendez brothers some people are not too bright.

  • @luckynedpepper9030
    @luckynedpepper9030 2 роки тому +74

    Well, well. It appears Spider married a black widow. Excellent speculation once again, Dr. Grande.

    • @sharolddelilahkelly8005
      @sharolddelilahkelly8005 2 роки тому +7

      Spider And Claudine Never Married: Let Alone: Never Got Engaged. He Hooked Up W/A Celebrity Divorcee And Two Years Later Lived Together For A Year And A Half. Nothing Further Than That.

    • @myunknownland9272
      @myunknownland9272 2 роки тому +2

      @@sharolddelilahkelly8005 she is called a wife here, common law wife.

    • @mikebond6328
      @mikebond6328 2 роки тому +3

      More like a brown recluse.

    • @kevinverduci7600
      @kevinverduci7600 2 роки тому

      She was naturally beautiful.she is the type of woman that gets high mileage

  • @zerc1
    @zerc1 2 роки тому +130

    I don’t always teach gun safety, but when i do, I make sure the student is high, drunk and I’m wearing my thermals.

    • @DenaDeniseRush
      @DenaDeniseRush 2 роки тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @LisaBowers
      @LisaBowers 2 роки тому +4

      And make sure you sleep at a Motel 6 instead of a Holiday Inn Express. 🥴

    • @itsmeagain7825
      @itsmeagain7825 2 роки тому +3

      And don't forget to make sure the gun is loaded

    • @tberry79
      @tberry79 2 роки тому +3

      This dude’s humor has me rolling 😆

    • @donnagolder7893
      @donnagolder7893 2 роки тому

      Haha…

  • @SueBoo2
    @SueBoo2 2 роки тому +24

    8:12 “...because one of the worst things that could happen in a jail is an uninspired inmate.”-Dr.Grande 😂🤣

  • @istateyourname4710
    @istateyourname4710 2 роки тому +85

    Aspenites loved Spider🕷 & loathed Claudine, even more after she got a slap on the wrist for this crime. Surprised that she chose to continue to live there.

    • @alabhaois
      @alabhaois 2 роки тому +4

      Slap on the wrist is right!! 😡

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 2 роки тому +9

      I remember this case. It was shocking!My family would watch William's show and Christmas specials. That relationship with Sabitch and Longet was zero from the start. Her sentence was pathetic.

    • @OGitGirlJess
      @OGitGirlJess 2 роки тому +1

      It seems like a lot of very wealthy & popular Aspenites have gotten away with horrific crimes. That of course applies to most of The US as well also however.

  • @WoodlandPoetry
    @WoodlandPoetry 2 роки тому +43

    I'm so glad you covered this. I was a legal researcher at the time and followed this case very closely. There are some things that are rarely recounted today. That replica gun was given to him by his father for display, yet he kept it in a drawer. Here was the kicker for me: The safety on that gun did not work. Andy Williams, despite his public anti-gun stance, kept a weapon at home for self-defense. That came to light when the police responded to a call of either a prowler or an attempted break-in, and Andy met them at the door with the gun. So there was a reasonable expectation that Claudine would assume the safety was on. Or it could go the other way, that she would have had more knowledge of firearms than was assumed.
    Claudine was not the bimbo starlet she is presented as today. She was actually in a repertoire theater group in France as a child. She was also a dancer and had ambitions to come to America. When the Folies Bergere was auditioning girls to dance the can-can in Las Vegas, she saw that as her ticket to the States. She was a good dancer but could not do the can-can, but she faked it and got the job anyway.
    Her children were in the house. To me this rules out premeditated murder, because what mother kills the boyfriend with the children in the house? Andy Williams later said he came and got their children and took them back to LA so that they couldn't be involved in the case. He was very much afraid of the mental effects it might have on them.
    It was known at the time that Aspen was very hostile to Claudine because they felt she had stolen their big star and put him on the shelf. There was a great deal of animosity against her and people feared she would not get a fair trial.
    I personally never put any stock in what they supposed girlfriend said. He dated a lot of women, and not all of them were particularly disinterested in publicity. When she married her attorney Ron Austin, my first thought was that he must have thought she was not guilty or he would have been worried she might do the same thing to him. I am definitely not condoning their adulterous relationship. But that marriage is still going, and so far he is still alive. I have no idea whether or not he is brave enough to keep a gun in the house.
    I guess we'll never know what happened, but I appreciate your putting the facts out there and your opinion, which which I agree. All I know is that she fired the gun, and Spider died as a result. I know this sounds like I'm defending her, but I realize that few people today know what people of that time in the legal community did about this case. It was briefly in the newspapers, but not all facts have a long shelf life.
    Thanks again for another great analysis!

    • @fuzzymath6240
      @fuzzymath6240 2 роки тому +1

      How come you think SHE is guilty, sounds even more like she is innocent. HE is the one who left it lying around, and he KNEW it was fucked up. He is the fuck up, not her, how could it NOT go off by accident!! Sounds like you DO know the case, what am I missing? Now I'm really confused....lol.

    • @WoodlandPoetry
      @WoodlandPoetry 2 роки тому +7

      @@fuzzymath6240 I understand your confusion! The only reason I would find her guilty of anything is because she did have a loaded weapon, it did fire, and a man died. Personally, I do not think she meant to shoot him and I think there were enough complications in this case to justify letting her off. I still can't get past that her children were in the house. That's just not the way women shoot people. By all accounts, including those of her children, she was a good mother. To me it was a tragic accident. If someone told me this was a replica of some famous gun, I would hear the word "replica" and not think of it as dangerous. A lot of us working around the courthouse agreed that we would have probably not brought it to trial, especially in Aspen. I don't remember where the trial was held, frankly. I still think it was Aspen, but we would have asked for a change of venue given the attitude there toward Claudine. I also can't get past that the safety didn't work. What do you think of all this? Do you think she was guilty or innocent? Do you think it was accidental?
      One of the problems is that so much was said that could not be substantiated. The jury pool was poisoned. Hearsay and rumor were just all over the place. The talk about the diary and the blood test muddied the water so much and yet no one could produce either one. Spider was a known drug user - and people in that town knew him well. It's no wonder Spider's parents made the deal with Claudine not to talk about the case, which I imagine was the last thing she wanted to do anyway. I'll never understand why some women go for the bad boys.

    • @MsSonali1980
      @MsSonali1980 2 роки тому +5

      "Her children were in the house. To me this rules out premeditated murder, because what mother kills the boyfriend with the children in the house? "
      I mean, she had no problem to do coke and alc with children in the house.

    • @WoodlandPoetry
      @WoodlandPoetry 2 роки тому +5

      @@MsSonali1980 I wish Dr. Grande would weigh in on this. I think addictive behaviors and cold-blooded murder come from two different places. When I lived out West I knew a lot of people who thought nothing of drinking, smoking, etc. In front of their children. None of them would raise a hand to their children. Usually those adult cocaine things were done after the children were in bed. But then I have heard of other cases, like Robert Downey Jr, where the kids were involved. Go figure. If you are reading this, Dr. Grande, help!

    • @darlenesteely6129
      @darlenesteely6129 2 роки тому

      M

  • @nonprogrediestregredi1711
    @nonprogrediestregredi1711 2 роки тому +57

    Yeah, the bathroom is not the place to give firearm tutorials; everyone knows that the walk in closet is the correct place for that. The bathroom is for archery tutorials.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +6

      That leaves the kitchen for knives, right?

    • @sheilamansell5634
      @sheilamansell5634 2 роки тому +2

      Afraid to ask what other room specific weapons tutorials you know of? Haha

    • @sheilamansell5634
      @sheilamansell5634 2 роки тому +4

      @@bthomson kitchens are for poisoning as well!

    • @alimar0604
      @alimar0604 2 роки тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧

    • @marys3127
      @marys3127 2 роки тому +1

      Archery - Funny Story: My 13 year old son suddenly took up archery after doing it at school. We bought him a bow, arrows, target, etc. He and my husband were out in our backyard practicing, but I was unaware of it. I opened the back gate in our rear yard and started walking, and an arrow whizzed by my head….just missed me but it was a good shot, almost perfectly center on the target. My poor son was so traumatized, he never did archery again. Sometimes we have angels on our shoulders, I guess. 🙂

  • @ttrainor70
    @ttrainor70 2 роки тому +164

    If your boyfriend's name is "spider"... well, that's your first problem

    • @HarringtonKyle
      @HarringtonKyle 2 роки тому +2

      I get reminded of Spider from Goodfellas when I hear of someone named as such.

    • @charleslagergren7407
      @charleslagergren7407 2 роки тому +1

      Church of eternal slack. Good look bob dobbs

    • @organismgel1043
      @organismgel1043 2 роки тому +2

      Sadly my cousin's bf goes by the name Spyder smh

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому

      LOL.

    • @bloodsolder01
      @bloodsolder01 2 роки тому

      Imagine not having a boyfriend named "spider" 😒

  • @JCPJCPJCP
    @JCPJCPJCP 2 роки тому +40

    I remember this case, but had forgotten the details of its disposition. Claudine had a couple of minor hits and she was popular for a while. This is a pretty good example of our two-tiered justice/injustice system.
    You have more shirts than "Jay Gatsby."
    And that's a nice one.
    Edit: And I remember the Andy Williams Show as the venu in which Bobby Hatfield, of the Righteous Brothers, made his unequalled recording of "Unchained Melody," which was used later in a couple of movies.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому

      Than Brooks Brothers!

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому +2

      Oh, I like the Great Gatsby reference.
      Now I'm going to emote, "I've never seen such beautiful shirts!" and start crying....

  • @mikebond6328
    @mikebond6328 2 роки тому +62

    Given that they were doing cocaine, it’s not surprising at all that they were playing with guns in the bathroom. Don’t ask how I know this.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +7

      A friend told you, right?🤔

    • @myunknownland9272
      @myunknownland9272 2 роки тому +4

      😂😂😂

    • @bradsully6620
      @bradsully6620 2 роки тому +9

      Its weird when doing coke the bathroom is the most important room.

    • @anonymousstrangeness7348
      @anonymousstrangeness7348 2 роки тому +8

      Well, I always thought that EVERYBODY does cocaine in the bathroom 😐

    • @geeksworkshop
      @geeksworkshop 2 роки тому +8

      Because in North America there are more guns than tooth brushers

  • @nickbirkhead7238
    @nickbirkhead7238 2 роки тому +136

    sounds about as 'accidental' as the Oscar Pistorius shooting

    • @bradsully6620
      @bradsully6620 2 роки тому +2

      Oscar forgot he had a wife and thought she was an intruder. Is he out of prison yet???
      He will be eligible for parole in 2023.

    • @Strype13
      @Strype13 2 роки тому +4

      There are still a LOT of people who think that really was an accident...

    • @LaMaestra2102
      @LaMaestra2102 2 роки тому +2

      @@Strype13 And they're all in group homes.

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 2 роки тому

      oh my: just like Pistorious debacle.

    • @Strype13
      @Strype13 2 роки тому

      @@carolnahigian9518 Isn't this exactly what the OP was implying?

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet 2 роки тому +55

    Ok, how many of your followers are old enough to remember this case? I like the throwback for sure. Amazing nostalgia here especially as it’s Andy Williams Xmas special time of year.

    • @shawnnewell4541
      @shawnnewell4541 2 роки тому +10

      Me, me! I'm 65.

    • @markbrooks2172
      @markbrooks2172 2 роки тому +6

      I remember it. I’m a month away from being 71.

    • @Red-jl1qr
      @Red-jl1qr 2 роки тому +1

      I'm 18 :|

    • @canileaveitblank1476
      @canileaveitblank1476 2 роки тому

      I remember Spyder, but didn’t remember that he died in this manner. I don’t remember Claudine, at all. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @monilaninetynine3811
      @monilaninetynine3811 2 роки тому

      I slightly remember it, although I was a small child at the time.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 2 роки тому +32

    I’ve actually not heard of this, so it’s quite interesting to say the least. Thank you for the video Dr. Grande, keep up the great work!

  • @morrisritchie870
    @morrisritchie870 2 роки тому +33

    I had a huge crush on Claudine Longet, one of the most beautiful women I had ever seen back in the 60’s. Having said that, I believe she should have been convicted, not of reckless this or negligent that, but of First Degree Murder. But it sounds like The Keystone Cops played a major role in her “snow job.”

  • @bryanmeekins835
    @bryanmeekins835 2 роки тому +10

    I remember this being a huge news story at the time, and I often find myself thinking about it, wondering what exactly happened. This seems to be one of those things where we're just going to be stuck with a whole lot of unanswered questions.

  • @ChristinePerez903
    @ChristinePerez903 2 роки тому +23

    Claudine should have been sentence longer than 30 days!!!
    Great video Dr Grande!!!

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 2 роки тому +38

    Those pesky voice activated guns can land you in a whole heap of trouble when you can't keep your mouth shut.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +3

      A very scary proposition!

    • @dianamarie5663
      @dianamarie5663 2 роки тому +4

      Alexa, fire this weapon.

    • @LisaBowers
      @LisaBowers 2 роки тому +1

      "Ok -Google- Ruger"

    • @rebel4466
      @rebel4466 2 роки тому

      Reminds me of the AVGN episode about the voice activated NES gadget lol

  • @inthelionsden6335
    @inthelionsden6335 2 роки тому +7

    Who remembers the Claudine Longet Invitational Ski Tournament on Saturday Night Live back in the day?

    • @smartphoto59
      @smartphoto59 2 роки тому +3

      🤣💯forgot about that skit, I believe she accidentally shoots about 20 people.

    • @marenpalotay8617
      @marenpalotay8617 2 роки тому +2

      "Accidentally shot...by Claudine Longet"

  • @Autumn_Forest_
    @Autumn_Forest_ 2 роки тому +24

    It’s a good thing she was still friends with her ex-husband and that he was a generous man.

    • @Daniea3
      @Daniea3 2 роки тому +6

      With connections to powerful politicians.

  • @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT
    @DEPARTMENTOFREDUNDANCYDEPT 2 роки тому +23

    I appreciate your detailed and accurate description of firearms used in these cases. So often these details are totally botched and completely erroneous due to the ignorance of the reporter/analyst.

    • @markuswx1322
      @markuswx1322 2 роки тому

      I remember the incident well, having handled a vintage Luger brought back from WW2 by a friend's father, who was in the OSS. And here's the problem: How could she keep clicking the gun? It's a single action, recoil operated semiautomatic, and that includes the Luger imitators for calibers other than 9mm Parabellum. In order to bring the firing pin down repeatedly on the same cartridge, the gun would both have to initially jam, and then be cycled by drawing up the toggle, ejecting the jammed round and chambering a new one. That requires deliberate and rather protracted action, a point Dr. Grande did not make clear. He spent a couple of lines on irrelevancies, such as the fact that the weapon was also available in 7.65mm, but missed the point about repeatedly cycling the weapon. It is this point that needed to be made clear: Spider had his back to Longet. He never had a chance.

  • @kathyclark8274
    @kathyclark8274 2 роки тому +44

    Contrary to many of your more nascent followers, I certainly remember this. However, I'm fairly confident you had to resort to secondary sources. Still, one of my advanced age nevertheless appreciates being thrown the occasional bone! It's so nice to reminisce re the 60s and 70s. But the entire RFK tragedy still feels like a knife in my gut. His was a dream we all longed to share.

    • @natekeyes2297
      @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +16

      Me too! Will never forget the day he was shot. Then he lingered for a few hours in the hospital and died. Had he won the election, he had promised to stop the Viet Nam war. Just think of how many lives would have been spared. The Kennedys had a reputation, especially their father, Joe Sr., of being aligned with the mob and not being particularly trustworthy. Then the Kennedy family suddenly became martyrs after JFK was shot. But I have always believed that RFK somehow rose above this influence in the last years of his life. I have speculated that his dedication to and work in the civil rights movement may have been what transformed him.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому +5

      The 60s -
      Pres. Kennedy
      Martin Luther King
      Bobby Kennedy
      ...bing bang boom.
      Followed by a fifty year propaganda campaign teaching hatred of liberals. Hmmmh.

    • @hughhaefner3317
      @hughhaefner3317 Рік тому +1

      While I respect your right to a candidate favorite, only 50 percent shared your dream of another Kennedy in the white house.

  • @blueboats7530
    @blueboats7530 2 роки тому +133

    Fun fact: Also in the Aspen courthouse, in 1977 Ted Bundy escaped by jumping out a window as no one was actually watching him.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +12

      You can't make this stuff up!😫

    • @morrisritchie870
      @morrisritchie870 2 роки тому +7

      I read the book on Teddy Boy. The one that got away from him in Utah led to his capture. He did plenty of damage before he was caught, though. A good read if you like true crime dramas, but parts of it are tough sledding.

    • @tclfan0180
      @tclfan0180 2 роки тому +2

      @@morrisritchie870 what is the name of the book if u dont mind? thank oyou

    • @morrisritchie870
      @morrisritchie870 2 роки тому +2

      To TOL fan 01: There are a number of them, but the one I read was “The Only Living Witness.”

    • @dizzymindy6024
      @dizzymindy6024 2 роки тому +3

      I read about that, he gained the trust of an officer, then took the opportunity when he had it and bailed. Too bad he was sick af, cuz he had a decent IQ, and if he weren’t so mentally messed up, he might have had a decent life.

  • @grumpyoldlady_rants
    @grumpyoldlady_rants 2 роки тому +31

    Ah, the benefits of being wealthy and beautiful….

  • @shawnnewell4541
    @shawnnewell4541 2 роки тому +15

    I always thought Claudine got off not only because she was the former wife of Andy Williams and young and beautiful but she had 3 young kids and she was visibly upset by what she'd done.

    • @brianwalsh1401
      @brianwalsh1401 Рік тому +3

      Actors are very good about putting on the act to pretend their sad. She got away with it.

  • @RaysDad
    @RaysDad 2 роки тому +28

    Claudine's lawyer/husband must be the bravest guy in Aspen.

    • @batfleckforever3594
      @batfleckforever3594 2 роки тому +3

      Or the stupidest.

    • @malkaz9167
      @malkaz9167 2 роки тому +1

      @@batfleckforever3594 Plus, after all these years, they are still married and lead a quiet life.

    • @brianwalsh1401
      @brianwalsh1401 Рік тому +3

      He saw what happens to people who try to leave her.

    • @cocoaorange1
      @cocoaorange1 Рік тому +1

      LOL, I hope she would not have put a hit on Andy if he had not supported her, just kidding! It is too bad, she cannot talk about the case.

  • @FalloutofContext
    @FalloutofContext 2 роки тому +10

    Seeing notifications for your uploads always make my day; I work the late shift and it gets really slow at night, watching and listening to your videos help the night go by faster.

  • @GGiblet
    @GGiblet 2 роки тому +14

    I remember this so well! I always thought her connection to Andy Williams was the key really because he is a huge star and so beloved. Great video as always Doc!💙🌞💙

    • @natekeyes2297
      @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +3

      Definitely! She would have been an obscure struggling actress if she had not married Andy Williams. In my post above I speculated that his presence probably had a major effect on the jury.

    • @franwebb7756
      @franwebb7756 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, he played a solid role in getting her off lightly, i imagine for their children's sake plus he probably still cared a lot for Claudine.

  • @shadowwolf2524
    @shadowwolf2524 2 роки тому +7

    I just love how alot of defense "experts" dog on the 22 caliber. But in real life, I see over and over how the 22, and also the much dogged on 25 ACP caliber, are very often used in shootings with very deadly results

    • @NealBurkard-ut1oo
      @NealBurkard-ut1oo 9 місяців тому

      A lot of firearms are chambered in .22. Maybe 2nd behind .223

  • @endliarcheats2927
    @endliarcheats2927 2 роки тому +17

    I remember this, it was all the buzz when I was little.

  • @Rasputin443556
    @Rasputin443556 2 роки тому +19

    Considering that Claudine Longet was famous for being married to Andy Williams and a bunch of sitcom appearances, this was a jury easily impressed by fame. Had Williams himself been on trial, I imagine that the opening of the trial would have been delayed by the jurors asking Williams for his autograph.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому

      Sitcom appearances?
      I think she made appearances on variety shows.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 2 роки тому

      Correction, Google says she did have roles on several situation comedies.
      My bad.

  • @Hollis_has_questions
    @Hollis_has_questions 2 роки тому +25

    I remember Spider Sabich and Claudine Longet as a case of an extremely clingy woman who moved in with a freewheeling guy, then tried to stop him from basically being himself. Well, she did.

    • @pamelahunter2053
      @pamelahunter2053 2 роки тому +4

      Good summary but sad truth of these immature egoists and worse court system that bowed to the fake
      "beautiful people" presentation.

  • @beeimaginative
    @beeimaginative 2 роки тому +34

    Ron Austin is a brave (if brave means blind or foolish) man

  • @AskMrScience
    @AskMrScience 2 роки тому +7

    This is the first analysis of the incident that I've heard since it happened. I remember the "bang bang" story and just accepted it as fact all along. Thanks for the additional details.

  • @johnjames6980
    @johnjames6980 2 роки тому +4

    Somewhere mm is furiously taking notes...

    • @wintercomesearly
      @wintercomesearly 2 роки тому +1

      Best and most overlooked comment. I got a good laugh picturing this!

  • @sideshowtink
    @sideshowtink 2 роки тому +6

    Good topic! Interesting! My friend had a record store and Claudine's section in the store was marked 'Claudine "Killer" Longet' LOL

  • @Mindy849
    @Mindy849 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you Dr. Grande for all your hard work on the matters you cover. Your much appreciated.

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 2 роки тому +67

    People always forget one of the most important gun safety rules: Never bring a gun into the bathroom when someone is showering.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +5

      Although probably meant as funny, this is sort of true! No room to maneuver and increased vulnerability!

    • @GentryGallery
      @GentryGallery 2 роки тому +3

      Also be conscious of your outfit choice, apparently being in your underwear has a large impact on whether or not you'll be shot.

    • @dianamarie5663
      @dianamarie5663 2 роки тому +4

      Jodi Arias never heard that rule.

    • @brianpratt3224
      @brianpratt3224 2 роки тому

      @@dianamarie5663 I was wondering if someone would mention that.

  • @nomad155
    @nomad155 2 роки тому +2

    Yo our boy got a sponsor as real as his personality! Love you Doc!

  • @GradyPhilpott
    @GradyPhilpott 2 роки тому +10

    Twenty-two caliber pistols are claimed to be a weapon of choice among professional hitmen, which is not to say that Longet was a professional hitwoman.

    • @NealBurkard-ut1oo
      @NealBurkard-ut1oo 9 місяців тому

      That's because it's a subsonic ammunition combined with a suppressor it can be low in sound

  • @altaego2748
    @altaego2748 2 роки тому +3

    I remember this case. Longet was in "The Party" with Peter Sellers. She was the gamine singing her little french chansons who leaves with Sellers at the end.

  • @dianeparr2483
    @dianeparr2483 2 роки тому +6

    Good afternoon Dr G😀 I remember this. I'm 69. It was a big deal at the time. Always thought she was guilty as hell.

  • @sharynkoren2054
    @sharynkoren2054 2 роки тому +12

    I remember this case very well. Great analysis Dr. Todd, loved it.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 роки тому +27

    I Still can't believe her Sentence!! Spider was killed.

    • @johnacott1238
      @johnacott1238 2 роки тому +2

      Women get treated very differently by the law courts.

    • @volks86
      @volks86 2 роки тому

      @@johnacott1238 damn patriarchy

    • @vjc4964
      @vjc4964 2 роки тому

      USA justice👎

  • @alicemurphy8111
    @alicemurphy8111 2 роки тому

    You have the perfect voice for a therapist. Very compassionate.

  • @nicklager1666
    @nicklager1666 2 роки тому +10

    I cant be the only one that makes the connection to the Pistorius case when reading the thumbnail text?

    • @RealBradMiller
      @RealBradMiller 2 роки тому +1

      The same week I found out about Oscar, was the week he shot his GF.
      Yes, the thumbnail made me think of that situation.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +3

      Yes! Same!

  • @barb_eh
    @barb_eh 2 роки тому +9

    One of my favorite movie's is The Party. I loved her character and Peter Sellers is Brilliant. Thanks for covering this story with your amazing analysis. Always a great share.

  • @trialgoddess
    @trialgoddess 2 роки тому +6

    Claudine was lovely...and evidently the inspiration for "Snapped." SNL did a great skit called "The Claudine Longet Invitational" in which she used a rifle to pick off men skiing competitively in Aspen.

  • @sherrikins3557
    @sherrikins3557 2 роки тому +1

    Andy William brother was at my church during the Christmas season and did a concert of songs in the mid 2000s. His brother loved visiting churches. Enjoyed that evening.

  • @mattj65816
    @mattj65816 2 роки тому +8

    I remember the SNL skit on this from twenty or thirty years ago. It was the "Claudine Longet Invitational Downhill Ski Championship" or something like that. I think Kevin Nealon was the announcer. It was just a collection of videos of downhill skiers falling and tumbling down a mountain. Skiing, skiing, skiing... BANG! Skier falls down. "Oh no! He has been accidentally shot by Claudine Longet!" More skiing, BANG, another tumble. "Oh no! He has been accidentally shot by Claudine Longet! What an unlucky break."

    • @RebelTheUncanny1
      @RebelTheUncanny1 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for helping me remember that.

    • @natekeyes2297
      @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +1

      I never saw that but it sounds hilarious.

    • @mattj65816
      @mattj65816 2 роки тому

      @@natekeyes2297 it definitely was. I was a kid at the time, and if what @Genesis1 says is true (I wouldn’t doubt it) then I’ve only seen it once, and it has stuck with me to this day. I think she accidentally shot four skiers-in four shots-that day. It was classic.

  • @davidbrienlantry8760
    @davidbrienlantry8760 2 роки тому +2

    I have been waiting for this analysis, Thank You Dr. Grande!

  • @Gallipoli1929
    @Gallipoli1929 2 роки тому +4

    Doctor, 22 is actually the choice of assassin's. The round when shot into ones head does not create an exit wound which actually increases the chances of death but as importantly does not leave a mess. It's also nearly silent.

    • @Tindometari
      @Tindometari 2 роки тому +3

      Also, the bullet will ricochet off the inside of the skull at least once, possibly several times, multiplying the damage paths within the brain -- it's like getting two or three bullets for the price of one. Each ricochet further deforms the bullet or its fragments, which may drastically decrease its ballistic-forensic value. Beyond the fact that .22 ammunition is as generic and as common as sparrows.

  • @chrisward2765
    @chrisward2765 2 роки тому +12

    Have you ever done an analysis of the Fatty Arbuckle murder case? I'd like to see that.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 роки тому +1

    You have, as always, information I've never heard. Thank You!

  • @beautifullysurprised9908
    @beautifullysurprised9908 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for digging up this case from the distant past and presenting it so well.

  • @GoGreen1977
    @GoGreen1977 2 роки тому +4

    Back in the 1960s, when I was just a kid, I remember my mon watching Claudine on various programs and listening to her sing and commenting that she had no talent. Her singing was breathy and insubstantial and she gave off the vibe of a helpless little girl. She liked Andy Williams, but couldn't see why he married her, given that he must have had other choices. As I grew older and developed my own opinions, I came to agree with my mom. As a teenager, I was disgusted that the "helpless, little girl" persona and Williams' money, plus the gullibility of the jury to let her get off so easily. That's when I came up with the need for "an idiot with a gun" law. If you "wander" around your house with a loaded gun and a family member, friend, or other guest ends up dead, that's not an accident. That's inevitable and you need more than a slap on the wrist.

    • @brianwalsh1401
      @brianwalsh1401 Рік тому +1

      I didn't know much about her at the time but I remember her growing up and I remember not liking her. She seemed 2 dimensional and fake. Didn't even know about the murder thing.

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 2 роки тому +1

    30 days. Dr.Grande thank you so much for this video. It is Amazing as always. It has been a day.

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 2 роки тому

    Excellent analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande

  • @chinchillamdgamer
    @chinchillamdgamer 2 роки тому

    I read longest case analysis and got pretty excited about a long version video, hehe. Catching up on weekend videos makes my Monday much better :3 thanks for posting daily!!

  • @madjayneify
    @madjayneify 2 роки тому

    Dr. Grande’s ad reads are the only ones I watch (and listen to). I think it’s because they feel so professional, genuine, thoughtful, and well prepared...just like him!

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 2 роки тому

    Very interesting and meaningful points. Thank you for another excellent video.

  • @mitochondriac5946
    @mitochondriac5946 2 роки тому +1

    Love it when The Grande brings the weapons knowledge

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 2 роки тому +41

    Never heard of this case. Using guns when sober dangerous let alone with drugs mixed in. Things so different in 70's! Funny quips again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛

    • @ronalddregan9431
      @ronalddregan9431 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah but if your name is Spider, all that advice goes out the window.

    • @canadianreserve
      @canadianreserve 2 роки тому +4

      using guns when having urges to murder your boyfriend also is dangerous

  • @K10jak
    @K10jak 2 роки тому

    I look forward to your videos!!

  • @debbiec4530
    @debbiec4530 2 роки тому

    Interesting case I never heard of before! Best of all a fun ad read by the good Dr. I love this channel.🤠💕

  • @scottguerin5741
    @scottguerin5741 2 роки тому +19

    My father was the drummer on the Andy Williams show. Even after they had divorced she would still appear with the kids on the Christmas specials. She treated Andy Williams like dirt in front of the entire crew. Given her history I find it hard to swallow this was an accident. Apparently the judge & some jurors felt differently.

    • @alabhaois
      @alabhaois 2 роки тому +3

      I believe it

    • @pamelahunter2053
      @pamelahunter2053 2 роки тому +2

      She was a real piece alright.
      I wonder did she ever redeem herself?

    • @wintercomesearly
      @wintercomesearly 2 роки тому

      Wow. And yet he stood behind her through this. His presence at the trial likely made all the difference for her verdict.

    • @stephanieclaire2569
      @stephanieclaire2569 Рік тому

      Would love to hear more! Did you father like Andy?? What did Claudine do on set that was so mean?

  • @polarbearsrus6980
    @polarbearsrus6980 2 роки тому +1

    Ah, a golden oldie... thanks for sharing!

  • @DameVonBonDaisy
    @DameVonBonDaisy 2 роки тому +1

    Always here to leave a Like 👍

  • @culturalobserver8721
    @culturalobserver8721 2 роки тому +1

    I never knew about this story, and I remember the 1970’s well. Thanks for telling us about it!

  • @BakingNana
    @BakingNana 2 роки тому +2

    Ok I officially feel old. I remember this very well. It was such a shock. Andy Williams will always be an American icon. Privileged to have seen him many times.

  • @ThemActually
    @ThemActually 2 роки тому

    Wow I’ve never been this early! Thanks for all the hard work you do Dr. Grande! I love your videos!

  • @thesongbird2383
    @thesongbird2383 2 роки тому +2

    I remember this case quite well. Very highly publicized with three "celebrities" involved. Also, it was very sadly strange from all facets. Especially when ex-husband, Andy Williams, got involved. Longet seemed able to play the card of "poor damsel in distress". Spider's life was indeed a very sad loss.

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    @marketalpha5426 2 роки тому

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  • @sugarshannie623
    @sugarshannie623 2 роки тому +2

    Lookin sharp in that shirt Dr. Grande!👔✔

  • @christinley5213
    @christinley5213 2 роки тому +1

    Daaam!! Never a dull case! What a world we live in! The baddle hymn of the republic.. always played at my familys funerals:( thats a deep song for me!!

    • @christinley5213
      @christinley5213 2 роки тому

      @@Anonymous-54545 hahaha yes thank you.. im very bad with spelling.. and lazy lol;)

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks, Doc.

  • @jimc6687
    @jimc6687 2 роки тому +5

    Dr. G referenced Claudine's appearance on that classic TV series Combat! which I definitely recall as she was fantastic in the role as a blind French woman sympathizer (along with an equally impressive Robert Duvall)! All this of course was marred by Longet getting away nearly scot free with murder. Jim C.

  • @Pimpernella
    @Pimpernella 2 роки тому +3

    That must be an entertaining story to at diner parties...I once got 30 days in prison for killing a spider in the bathroom! 🤭

  • @donnabowman7448
    @donnabowman7448 2 роки тому

    Looooooong ago ... had almost forgotten about that case! Thank you .....

  • @grahvis
    @grahvis 2 роки тому +9

    Another factor which should be taken into account, is that in the 70s and for a couple of decades afterwards, the idea that a man could be the victim of domestic abuse, was actively denied.
    It was considered that women were never violent towards a male partner.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +1

      And indeed it is fairly rare isn't it?

    • @grahvis
      @grahvis 2 роки тому +1

      @@bthomson .
      No far from it, it appears to be rare partially because it has been played down or hidden and partially due to a lack of reporting and belief of those who do report it.
      For example a BBC article on intimate partner murder did have a small paragraph stating men were the victims at a rate of 2 in every 7 but then went on to list 8 cases of women being the victims. to the casual reader, it would give the impression that only women were killed.
      Another example is where a male MP was cautioned for assault in a domestic incident and was forced to resign. Remember that in order to receive a police caution, you have to admit guilt. A female MP was cautioned for assault and actual bodily harm, she only had to claim self defence and was given a position in the Shadow Cabinet.
      If you are interested I suggest you google the Mankind Initiative, male victims of domestic and partner abuse.

  • @marciamellow1211
    @marciamellow1211 2 роки тому +2

    Long time coming..remembering this... clearly, very strange then ..strange now!

  • @stubstunner
    @stubstunner 2 роки тому +6

    Ty sir. Great vid and crime. I introduced my wife to you a few days ago and she’s been enjoying thoroughly.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому

      More the merryer!

  • @SubPablum
    @SubPablum 2 роки тому +2

    Sirhan Sirhan would make a very interesting topic. Have not actually checked if that's been done already.

  • @rachelv9408
    @rachelv9408 2 роки тому

    I am loving the shirt, Doc! It looks cozy.

  • @peteywheatstraws4909
    @peteywheatstraws4909 Рік тому +1

    I think she was in an early Peter Sellers movie called "The Party" (mid to late 60's).

  • @louriewylde9293
    @louriewylde9293 2 роки тому

    I like all of your videos before I watch them

  • @garyhuston5602
    @garyhuston5602 2 роки тому

    Definitely a Dr. Grande fan. As a You Tube Premium Subscriber I do not care to see commercials inserted into the presentation.

  • @alice_rabbit8345
    @alice_rabbit8345 2 роки тому

    Nice autumnal shirt 🍂👌🏻

  • @tobascoheat6582
    @tobascoheat6582 2 роки тому +4

    This is interesting as I am (barely) old enough to remember Andy Williams and Claudine. I'm a bit puzzled as to why you posted this today. That was about 45 years ago.

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson 2 роки тому +8

      Ah! But that is one of Dr. Grande's
      best secrets for universal popularity ! He picks subjects that are diverse and appeal to many ages and appetites!

    • @oaktownie5135
      @oaktownie5135 2 роки тому +7

      It was a very sensational killing...worth revisiting.

  • @willnill7946
    @willnill7946 2 роки тому +30

    She killed him cause he had his fun with her and was going to leave. She was getting older and he was out chasing young girls. Neither were outstanding citizens. Her simp ex husband Andy came to her rescue

    • @burprobrox9134
      @burprobrox9134 2 роки тому +2

      Except she was still young and incredibly beautiful.

    • @willnill7946
      @willnill7946 2 роки тому +1

      @@burprobrox9134 aparently not to him. She had 3 kids, was not a 21 year old show girl anymore. She got trapped in a fantasy world with that guy. I mean what point are you trying to make.

    • @richarddixon7855
      @richarddixon7855 2 роки тому

      Wow Will Nill! I guess you are completely unfamiliar with Andy and his personal life, especially occurences during his teen years. I don't think he'd be classified as a simp.

  • @BucketHeadianHagg
    @BucketHeadianHagg 2 роки тому +1

    This is such a tragic story. I remember thinking how beautiful she was when i was a little girl. It's all just so sad really. (Dr Grande, it's so fun waiting to see which shirt you're going to wear next! I like this one!) Good job on the story today

  • @sandragrace4613
    @sandragrace4613 2 роки тому

    I was a kid when this case was in the news. Thanks for explaining it 🐱

  • @klaytonpeterson1596
    @klaytonpeterson1596 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @adamcarver5736
    @adamcarver5736 2 роки тому +2

    I would love to see you do a breakdown of the case of Col. Philip Shue. That one is so baffling to me.

  • @misszee007
    @misszee007 2 роки тому +2

    Omg Miss Monet from The 🎉🄿🄰🅁🅃🅈🎈a great Peter Sellers movie. Never would have thought she smoked her husband. Damn.

  • @erikparent8176
    @erikparent8176 2 роки тому +3

    3️⃣0️⃣ days in the hole by Humble Pie❗ 🎶🎤🎸🎸🥁
    A gritty, groovy tune!

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 2 роки тому +2

      I love Humble Pie! ❤