Ted Kennedy Chappaquiddick Island Incident Analysis | Did Kennedy Commit Manslaughter?

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  • @tabittheha
    @tabittheha 3 роки тому +1375

    Hearing about this case, it always stands out to me that so many people were much more concerned about protecting the reputation of some dude with a fancy last name than they were about seeking justice for an innocent young woman who was killed because a rich boy decided to drive home drunk.

    • @johnnytimestamp8224
      @johnnytimestamp8224 3 роки тому +19

      "floosy"

    • @micheleparker8123
      @micheleparker8123 3 роки тому +17

      Exactly.

    • @juanitarichards1074
      @juanitarichards1074 3 роки тому +103

      @@johnnytimestamp8224 She was no "floozy"......she was a victim of a misogynistic sexual harasser who wouldn't take no for an answer. They went to great lengths to cover for him precisely because Maty Jo was a victim whom that coward left to drown while he saved his own worthless ass.

    • @johnnytimestamp8224
      @johnnytimestamp8224 3 роки тому +26

      @@juanitarichards1074 i know im joking thats what they said about her back then

    • @rdhawk929
      @rdhawk929 3 роки тому +30

      But isn't that ALWAYS the case, regardless of what side of the aisle they align with politically?

  • @sallydeeperry138
    @sallydeeperry138 Рік тому +231

    This is an excellent analysis, Dr. Grande. I was 16 when that happened. Ted was an arrogant, selfish narcissist who escaped the justice he deserved.

  • @StaceyQTPie
    @StaceyQTPie 3 роки тому +578

    Spot on, Dr Grande. I agree with your take on the situation. Ted was drunk and married and all about self preservation.

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman 3 роки тому +39

      Ted behaved like an entitled Kennedy but at the same time like a coward which was very un-Kennedy like.

    • @deltanovember1672
      @deltanovember1672 3 роки тому +13

      @@coweatsman Old Joe was a coward when it came to war with Germany.

    • @TheCrabError
      @TheCrabError 3 роки тому +6

      Dang, spoiler alert 😉

    • @davidhopeman3591
      @davidhopeman3591 3 роки тому +9

      And now, The Wholesome Kennedy Brothers VS Marilyn Monroe ?

    • @ettoredipugnar6990
      @ettoredipugnar6990 3 роки тому +2

      And wanted to be president

  • @edgarfrank5712
    @edgarfrank5712 7 місяців тому +251

    Shame on the citizens of Massachussets who kept electing and reelecting members of this criminal family.

    • @ReflectionTool637
      @ReflectionTool637 6 місяців тому

      That "crime family" has nothing on the grifter trying to get back in the WH and his corrupt spawn. Jared gets $2B to invest from MBS? That is next level grifting.

    • @JmO-ee1bi
      @JmO-ee1bi 6 місяців тому

      Shame on the entire Republican Party for being a joke, as bad as the Kennedys are they are angels compared to literally any Republican Party politician

    • @tomjones2348
      @tomjones2348 6 місяців тому

      I appears to me that Ted was installed into office with huge sums of campaign $$ from his well funded globalist constituents. Pop quiz: What "club" have 99.9% of Congress sworn their allegiance in order to keep their seats? That club is who runs America.

    • @paisan8766
      @paisan8766 6 місяців тому

      The country and our states elect a lot of scumbags on both sides of the isle, bud. Most less capable than JFK & RFK Sr.

    • @UnauthorizedComedy
      @UnauthorizedComedy 6 місяців тому +8

      I never voted for him. I am glad I moved.

  • @MrRaulstrnad
    @MrRaulstrnad 6 місяців тому +18

    Remember this event is the one we know about-his pattern of behavior at the scene (not getting help, bypassing several houses, sleeping it off etc.) seems to indicate that either he, or his brothers or their father experienced similar incidents before and they were always covered up.

  • @quester09
    @quester09 3 роки тому +1082

    this guy basically had a free ride through life.
    RIP Mary Jo.

    • @diamondleigh7280
      @diamondleigh7280 3 роки тому +26

      Smh... 🙄 I 100% agree with you

    • @perrymichales4242
      @perrymichales4242 3 роки тому +45

      Mary. Jo is the true victim in this sad saga.

    • @kaym.h.3583
      @kaym.h.3583 3 роки тому +10

      ☝️

    • @damnmuggle
      @damnmuggle 3 роки тому +4

      Not really how he died wasn’t easy lol

    • @memail-fn6yb
      @memail-fn6yb 3 роки тому +33

      He didn't completely escape consequences. I remember when he ran for president in 80 or 84. People were asking, who wants a President who panics and runs? It was pretty obvious Ted would never win. You know what winning meant to a Kennedy. Mary Jo was always going to come back to haunt him.
      If he hadn't been the last surviving Kennedy brother, I don't think he would have gotten away with it. Some thought that after the loss of Joe Jr, John, and Robert, his mother had paid enough. It was kind of a twisted Saving Private Ryan".

  • @AimeeAimee444
    @AimeeAimee444 3 роки тому +501

    This unfortunate scenario, where the rich and powerful rarely pay the price as a normal citizen, still exists today.
    Thank you as always Dr. Grande. 👍😊

    • @karenolson4000
      @karenolson4000 3 роки тому +15

      At this point, with all the parties being deceased, God has had the opportunity to render the ultimate judgement. Although I do tend to vote for Democrats, I think Ted Kennedy, his family, and society in general would have been better off if the authorities had treated Ted like anyone else and had indicted him on manslaughter charges. This would have given Ted the opportunity to realign his life.

    • @wwc51450
      @wwc51450 3 роки тому +21

      @@karenolson4000 So, this would have given Kennedy the opportunity to "realign his life"? What about Mary Jo's life? I guess that wasn't a concern in liberal Massachusetts, whose hypocrisy about the way people should be treated (regardless of social class) was quite glaring.

    • @annhughes2696
      @annhughes2696 Рік тому

      The perfect example where the rich and famous rarely pay the price is Joe and Hunter Biden. Here we see again where the son of a famous powerful man gets away with crimes others would otherwise pay a price for.

    • @AimeeAimee444
      @AimeeAimee444 Рік тому +1

      @@annhughes2696 There’s many people missing in your sentence. 😆

    • @kenfrievalt7826
      @kenfrievalt7826 Рік тому +1

      I agree happened more often in the past .with less technology.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 3 роки тому +475

    “Ted would spend time delivering impassioned speeches on the senate floor, when he should have been spending time delivering an impassioned cleaning effort on a prison floor.”- I couldn’t agree more. 🙌🏼
    His self-centeredness was boundless.
    Thank you for another great review Dr. Grande.❤️

    • @presmasterflash7555
      @presmasterflash7555 3 роки тому +31

      It was said that he would make jokes about Mary Jo in the halls of the capital building and I wouldn’t wince if it were to have happened on the senate floor either. He was a sick individual. I used to live in Massachusetts. Can’t believe those people would elect him into office over and over.

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 3 роки тому +19

      @@presmasterflash7555 That’s nauseating. It’s disheartening to think that we had/have people with such low moral compass in politics.

    • @damnmuggle
      @damnmuggle 3 роки тому +6

      @@presmasterflash7555 he didn’t make those jokes you liar

    • @presmasterflash7555
      @presmasterflash7555 3 роки тому +8

      @@damnmuggle ok. Go find the unedited version of his memoirs.

    • @kellym3356
      @kellym3356 3 роки тому +18

      Thank you for this Dr Grande! I just finished “Senatorial Privilege” and I 💯 % agree with your insights.
      It goes much further than anyone even knows! Ted Kennedy’s cousin Joe Gargon, spoke out before his death about Chapaquittick and he had many regrets. One of which was he or Paul Markum, traveled to Mary Jo’s parents’ home with the
      kennedy Catholic priest to convince Mary Jos parents that it would do “no good” to have an autopsy done on Mary Jo , as her father was demanding.
      Eventually the priest
      Convinced them not to proceed and no definitive proof would exist to prosecute the
      Slimeball lying Ted. The coroner did say However that MJ didn’t die of drowning but of suffocation and had been alive hours after the car plunged off the bridge! IF Kennedy had done the RIGHT and morally and humane thing by calling police or ambulance , she would be alive today !
      God has judged him now.

  • @caesar349
    @caesar349 6 місяців тому +44

    And yet he became a career politician reelected over and over and over.

    • @valleygirl2530
      @valleygirl2530 4 місяці тому +1

      He benefited from peoples’ idiotic sympathy after 2 of his brothers were assassinated.

    • @cococaptivating7611
      @cococaptivating7611 4 місяці тому

      Ted Kennedy was an excellent public servant.
      He was the main fighter of the children’s medical insurance CHIPS. His son had cancer and he kept hearing stories from parents who couldn’t afford health insurance for their children with cancer. He was called the Lion of the senate because he fought so hard for the people. Several of his siblings died and he had a very unusual life.
      Yes he was flawed and privileged and experienced much tragedy.

    • @caesar349
      @caesar349 4 місяці тому

      @@cococaptivating7611 doesn’t change the fact he caused an innocent woman’s death and got away with it. A HUGE CRIME. Another dem criminal that slips through the cracks just because. You people are unreal.

  • @steppenwolf516
    @steppenwolf516 2 роки тому +13

    "Some quality time for the purpose of romance". Dr. Grande's euphemisms are among his best form of humor.

  • @joyciejd9673
    @joyciejd9673 3 роки тому +228

    I remember all of this like it was yesterday. It was amazing to me, as a young person at that time, that someone could get away with such a thing. I am much older now and sadly, I find that I am no longer surprised when justice is not served

    • @judypettey8020
      @judypettey8020 2 роки тому +7

      Rest in Peace Mary Jo !!!

    • @kathybates1751
      @kathybates1751 Рік тому

      I hope in today's world things would be different.

    • @vernwallen4246
      @vernwallen4246 Рік тому +1

      Here are pictures of"just-us" in action.💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

  • @gaylesharp9652
    @gaylesharp9652 3 роки тому +597

    He was a Kennedy. That answers any question about how he got off scott free. I think your analysis is spot on.

    • @AdamLacy228
      @AdamLacy228 3 роки тому +29

      I totally concur! Being a Kennedy was like being an angel of GOD in those times. He killed a woman, then went on to serve on the U.S. senate until the time that he died. Everyone cried. 🤔

    • @xuzhang6659
      @xuzhang6659 3 роки тому +4

      @@AdamLacy228 shut up. Who knows what happened? Maybe he was planned! He was the most productive senator. We need more people like him today!

    • @AdamLacy228
      @AdamLacy228 3 роки тому +31

      @@xuzhang6659 Why open your reply with the phrase "shut up?" I would've completely ignored your post, but I noticed that you didn't even reply to the originator. That shows a lot about your character as a person immediately. 🙄

    • @megamillionfreak
      @megamillionfreak 3 роки тому +21

      @@xuzhang6659 He was most productive for the communists inside and outside of America. It explains why you’re loving that dumb murderer.

    • @lindanorris2455
      @lindanorris2455 3 роки тому +1

      it is!

  • @katherinetruitt9835
    @katherinetruitt9835 3 роки тому +313

    Excellent analysis. It was a disgusting incident that showcased a rich man's narcissism.

    • @yankee2666
      @yankee2666 2 роки тому +7

      A Republican from a middle-class family would be doing jail time to this day.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 Рік тому +5

      @@yankee2666 that's not true either

    • @pricklypear7516
      @pricklypear7516 Рік тому

      Compounding the crime was the fact that voters elected him senator seven more times.

    • @alvashoemaker8536
      @alvashoemaker8536 Рік тому +3

      THIS ACTION (or, LACK thereof) IS/ WAS a tragedy; how sad that a FAMOUS name (Kennedy) has that much power. RIP, Mary Jo… 🤔😮😐🙏🙏

    • @michaelterry4394
      @michaelterry4394 Рік тому +4

      Teddy was protected instead of being held accountable for a sad incident comlpoinded by getti g re elected as a senator. SHAME.

  • @andysgirl7849
    @andysgirl7849 3 роки тому +19

    I read extensively on this matter over the years & I reached the same conclusion you did, Dr. Grande. It makes me sick to think of all the things the Kennedys got away with!!

    • @HelloWorld-kq3jt
      @HelloWorld-kq3jt 2 роки тому +2

      Biased media helped that

    • @Rob-z7k
      @Rob-z7k 5 місяців тому

      Kennedy curse

    • @krystingrant6292
      @krystingrant6292 3 місяці тому

      Yesss but media and civil rights organizations love the Kennedy's

  • @canadianfortrump4057
    @canadianfortrump4057 6 місяців тому +43

    I totally agree that he should have been charged with manslaughter. Anyone else without Ted Kennedy's wealth and privilege would have gone to prison for several years.

    • @suekelley2109
      @suekelley2109 4 місяці тому +1

      And probably if it had occurred in a different state. Nothing against Massachusetts at all but the sheriff or chief of police let him go because he had promised to return for a longer interview, but he got out of there and never returned

  • @lindaedwards2144
    @lindaedwards2144 3 роки тому +454

    I could never understand him being lionised in the Senate. He was so sleazy.

    • @Dulcimertunes
      @Dulcimertunes 3 роки тому +23

      You said it

    • @thereal4113
      @thereal4113 3 роки тому +29

      Also a raging alcoholic. His face was always the color of a ripe tomato.

    • @keithbrunson7190
      @keithbrunson7190 3 роки тому +31

      He was a Kennedy. They do what they want.

    • @GradyPhilpott
      @GradyPhilpott 3 роки тому +29

      Democrats.

    • @peabody3000
      @peabody3000 3 роки тому +31

      some people actually still respect trump, so anything's possible really

  • @motherearth6064
    @motherearth6064 3 роки тому +195

    My father is 82. He still gets riled up about that girl.

    • @beverleypettit3577
      @beverleypettit3577 3 роки тому +19

      Your father sounds as though he has his priorities right.
      Shocking indeed.

    • @Salem-yy5wn
      @Salem-yy5wn 3 роки тому +2

      @@beverleypettit3577 🙄🙄🙄

    • @seaglasscolor
      @seaglasscolor 3 роки тому +10

      It really bothered my grandmother too.

    • @stephenater9687
      @stephenater9687 3 роки тому +19

      77 here and I still get upset. That SOB never even offered an apology to the family.

    • @lucyloo2520
      @lucyloo2520 3 роки тому +10

      76 here. Remember it well. What a sleaze ball!

  • @m3rrys0ngstr3ss
    @m3rrys0ngstr3ss 3 роки тому +217

    I don't know if it was manslaughter or not, but GOD, him just leaving her there makes me sick.

    • @aks8823
      @aks8823 3 роки тому +5

      My reaction exactly, m3rry........ Sickening.

    • @rastaferion
      @rastaferion 3 роки тому +5

      the wreck is one thing. i'd be in jail but leaving her to drown is the act of an entitled coward. in this world it is better to rich than to be a decent human being. the Kennedy's are not cursed. they just do stupid shit and once in a blue moon they suffer some consequences.

    • @anairenemartinez165
      @anairenemartinez165 3 роки тому +3

      The panicking part at first it is kind of understandable for a KENNEDY caught in some shenanigans, but after, planing the whole cover up by swimming to the hotel and pretend he slept there. The movie is pretty good, like a documentary. Same analysis.

    • @anairenemartinez165
      @anairenemartinez165 3 роки тому +2

      @@rastaferion Old Joe really got his karma back with his sons, grandchildren, greatgrands. You hear what Maria Shriver said to her 26 year old RE: kyle Rittenhouse not guilty.?

    • @markreeves9026
      @markreeves9026 3 роки тому +5

      Cervical collar with tie was a sweet touch.

  • @marysisak2359
    @marysisak2359 Рік тому +19

    I actually remember this case. It sounds a whole lot worse now that it did then. It is truly sickening.

  • @happygolucky9986
    @happygolucky9986 Рік тому +7

    However, a recent accident reconstructionist says she could not have been in the passenger seat, that she was driving alone, as there were NO injuries whatsoever on her, whereas, if she had been in the passenger seat the pressure coming up from water and down from the crash would have shattered the window thereby leaving many small cuts on her face. Also, when the car stopped and was seen by the cop they drove back a ways. Ted exited the car and ran, telling the woman to get on and go back to her hotel fearing his trist with her would be exposed which explains the difference between the cops timeline and Teds.. She was unfamiliar with the road and drove off of the bridge.

    • @yapooa
      @yapooa 3 місяці тому +1

      What a pack of lies you have written here. The police office said the driver backed up and then sped away. Also, Kennedy was at the river and in the water.

  • @shipcritic
    @shipcritic 3 роки тому +399

    During this period Volkswagen ran an advertising campaign about the Beetle: "it floats!". National Lampoon ran a fake ad: "If Teddy Kennedy drove a Volkswagen he'd be President today".

    • @raydavison4288
      @raydavison4288 3 роки тому +30

      That ad was in a special edition titled, "The National Lampoon Encyclopedia of Humor." The Kennedys sued & forced NatLamCo to recall that edition.

    • @ktkt9982
      @ktkt9982 3 роки тому +11

      Fascinating.

    • @robertmatz2925
      @robertmatz2925 3 роки тому +14

      @@raydavison4288 First time I heard about the floating Beetle, very humorous.

    • @storyboydave2816
      @storyboydave2816 3 роки тому +10

      Ha ha! I was going to post the same thing! I used to have that issue.

    • @ekkekristo
      @ekkekristo 3 роки тому +2

      wow

  • @betterbee1304
    @betterbee1304 3 роки тому +228

    Does anyone else put on Dr Grande when they're working around the house? It's fascinating to learn all of these different cases. My dad use to adore the Kennedys and I never really got why. Thanks Dr. Grande! What a strange family...

    • @Greenmountainferns
      @Greenmountainferns 3 роки тому +23

      My dad named me and my brother after the after Kennedys.. people must’ve really been caught up in a world wind of admiration at that time for them, I never really got why either😂

    • @stubstunner
      @stubstunner 3 роки тому +8

      Yes! I listen while I clean and work

    • @Throatzillaaa
      @Throatzillaaa 3 роки тому +11

      I do that with many youtube videos but I like to look at Todd's mouth when he speaks cause I'm creepy

    • @kawaiifangzz
      @kawaiifangzz 3 роки тому +4

      I've run through all of his content. I'm always putting him on when doing chores around the house

    • @stubstunner
      @stubstunner 3 роки тому +3

      @@Throatzillaaa I mean… Look at that mouth…

  • @betsyr4724
    @betsyr4724 3 роки тому +208

    My opinion same as yours. They were drunk. Went parking. Took a wrong turn. I wonder if he really tried to find her. Wasn’t she in the car? He panicked and saved Ted.
    Cowardly behavior.

    • @jonibrown6864
      @jonibrown6864 3 роки тому +6

      You got it

    • @brettmitchell8014
      @brettmitchell8014 3 роки тому +5

      Alcohol is the worst drug around.

    • @pamalaboyd7008
      @pamalaboyd7008 3 роки тому +19

      I'm 77, and read a book about this story. She was breathing air from an air pocket for 9 hours. This book made me mad, and sad.

    • @JohnSmith-yd5wq
      @JohnSmith-yd5wq 3 роки тому +1

      @@pamalaboyd7008 Ted was innocent and setup. The story doesn't make any sense. How did Ted get out but not Mary Jo?

    • @robertodell9193
      @robertodell9193 3 роки тому +8

      @@JohnSmith-yd5wq I can't tell if you're a brilliant troll or just a person of sub-normal intelligence.

  • @dianne8340
    @dianne8340 6 місяців тому +2

    I read the book, Chappaquiddick and it was very detailed. I agree with your analysis of the accident and Senator Kennedy's behavior before and after the incident.

  • @notremembering
    @notremembering Рік тому +63

    Laughing so hard when you said maybe Mary Jo driving off bridge bc she couldn’t stand to be around Ted!!!! Makes sense to me. Entitled self centered and didn’t care at all that she was stuck in car!!! Let me say I don’t for a minute think he tried to get her out of car. Taking care of himself. Like always. Whether it involves cheating in college or drunk in public or murder.

    • @thebiscuitrose
      @thebiscuitrose Рік тому

      I am glad to read your analysis. Very informative. Thank you.

    • @RobertKeigher
      @RobertKeigher Рік тому +5

      I think Ted exited the car down the road because he didn’t want the cop to find him driving drunk with another woman. Ted drove off when they saw the cop, stopped, got out, then had Mary Jo slide into the driver's seat and continued on, probably all the while she was checking the rearview mirror for the cop lights and accidentally drove off the bridge. Ted was 6'2 and Mary Jo was 5'2, so without the seat adjusted properly she probably couldn't even see over the hood or the bridge, especially since it had no guard rail. Remember she drove a VW. Ted knew the bridge was there and would have never driven off of it. Ted was also an excellent swimmer, and would have gotten her out of a partially submerged car. He didn’t report the accident because he didn’t know about it until he was told the next morning, when his buddies arrived and told him at breakfast. Ted was jovial at breakfast and promptly left looking very distraught and without saying goodbye. Ted said he was driving because they decided this story would be the best political decision, rather than admitting he bailed out of the car in an attempt to hide the fact he was parked with a woman.

    • @johnchiaia6758
      @johnchiaia6758 Рік тому +1

      In agreement. This is probably the most logical scenario of what really happened.@@RobertKeigher

    • @MrRaulstrnad
      @MrRaulstrnad 6 місяців тому +1

      he went back home, passing several homes that were lit up (there were no mobile phones then and the homes had phones to call aid) and then he slept it off while the poor woman slowly suffocated in the air pocket. Remember that this incident is the one we know about-his behavior at the scene might be indicative that he went through similar incidents before and it got taken care off.

    • @two_tier_gary_rumain
      @two_tier_gary_rumain 6 місяців тому +2

      @@RobertKeigher Nice theory but it doesn't hold water. His bizarre behavior towards the police car suggests to me that he was drunk and stoned. He drove off the bridge because of his state and he probably forgot about her or didn't care.
      Why the police car didn't continue to follow him after his little stunt is a mystery, however.

  • @wesleyhite8203
    @wesleyhite8203 3 роки тому +159

    I was a freshman in high school when this happened. The part that gets me is that the people of Massachusetts seemed to think that he didn't do anything wrong. If a senator from my home state of Texas had done that, he would have been Drawn and Quatered.

    • @charles-ge1nx
      @charles-ge1nx 2 роки тому

      You can’t be serious. Or you ignore the facts or are illiterate. Not unlikely, knowing how children are “educated” in dear, old Texas. It took 5 months to get rid of a police force without an ounce of courage, fewer brains, etc. The only thing they regarded were themselves & SELF-PRESERVATION. The Governor & State Attorney General are corrupt, cowardly, and actually are traitorous. Texas as a State is PSYCHOPATHY. Learn to think critically..

    • @peterruddick1952
      @peterruddick1952 Рік тому +14

      Incorrect, many MA people, including my family and also including many Irish Dem's were outraged

    • @hermandegroot1946
      @hermandegroot1946 Рік тому +4

      Greg Abbott is still there.

    • @jguillot72
      @jguillot72 Рік тому

      @@peterruddick1952 Yet they continued to vote for the POS.

    • @dckatyx9577
      @dckatyx9577 Рік тому +3

      Except, possibly, for LBJ.

  • @paperchaser29
    @paperchaser29 3 роки тому +111

    I always like it when Dr. Grande tackles the oldies. I definitely agree with the conclusion. I’d love to hear an analysis of the Louise Woodward case.

    • @swannoir
      @swannoir 3 роки тому +5

      Oh yes, I second the Louise Woodward case.

    • @dawneipeldauer-awanderingn825
      @dawneipeldauer-awanderingn825 3 роки тому +9

      What about natalie wood that was a weird death

    • @jeweliewaggitty8631
      @jeweliewaggitty8631 3 роки тому +1

      @@dawneipeldauer-awanderingn825 he did one on her, I believe.
      I want him to do Chevy Chase, and several folks whose names I won't mention, but they are names and faces we all know, see often, and being mistreated/lied to/experimented on by.

    • @carollawrence6461
      @carollawrence6461 3 роки тому +2

      Didn't anyone back at the house wonder why he was wet?

  • @augustovans
    @augustovans 3 роки тому +242

    I agree with your analysis! Ted Kennedy was responsible for Mary Jo's death, and should have been prosecuted. But having powerful friends helped him avoid the justice system. It is a sad story, especially for the parents of the young woman.

    • @sarabechtler7921
      @sarabechtler7921 3 роки тому +9

      Status & power originated I believe from the Kennedy boys father. Kennedy Senior raised them as the untouchables you mentioned. Entitled, bulletproof, Elite & was controller of family. I am sure his influence was strong in protecting teddy as well. With the privilege upbringing they all had..it's astounding to me that John f Kennedy, Robert Kennedy had as much of a strong sense of equity for others in their political careers.

    • @wwc51450
      @wwc51450 3 роки тому +5

      They went through hell for the rest of their lives.

    • @wwc51450
      @wwc51450 3 роки тому +1

      @@sarabechtler7921 It seems rather hypocritical to me.

    • @donnaross5105
      @donnaross5105 3 роки тому +3

      Agree but why did her parents not insist on an autopsy? One thing Dr. Grande leaves out is the possibility that MJK told him that she was pregnant. Could he have killed her thinking he might be the father… deliberately driving off the bridge leaving her to drown and not reporting the accident or seeking help?

    • @scottwortham533
      @scottwortham533 3 роки тому +1

      Her parents stood by him all the way and kelp voteing democrat

  • @sookie4195
    @sookie4195 6 місяців тому +6

    I remember this well. I was 17 living in the Midwest. Even in the Midwest, people were outraged.

  • @voxpopuli348
    @voxpopuli348 6 місяців тому +22

    The Kennedy family denounced RFK Jr., a successful environmental attorney, but supported Ted Kennedy after this debacle.

  • @jkgent4087
    @jkgent4087 3 роки тому +204

    Nailed it, Doc!
    If I remember correctly, he wore a neck brace around after the incident and in his TV speech. I think this was a cheap bid for sympathy and there was nothing wrong with his neck.

    • @jims3251
      @jims3251 3 роки тому +7

      I may very well be wrong about this, but I think the neck brace was affer an unrelated small-plane crash. I'll look it up to double check.

    • @jims3251
      @jims3251 3 роки тому +24

      Nope; you're right. He wore the neck brace to her funeral, apparently.
      After the (1964) plane crash, it was a BACK brace.

    • @Nan-Elle
      @Nan-Elle 3 роки тому +13

      I also remember that at that time when he went to court on the island, NO cameras were allowed in the court room. Everything was covered up, and the poor guy lost his license. A license you don't really need when you have drivers...

    • @pootthatbak2578
      @pootthatbak2578 3 роки тому +1

      I coulda swore a picture of the car i saw in this video had circular cracks right about where a driver may have been flung into the windshield

    • @jkgent4087
      @jkgent4087 3 роки тому +2

      @@pootthatbak2578 Could be. At the time, I do not remember him saying anything about a neck or any other injury. It seemed like an anomaly to me at that time. But I was young- a junior in high school. But an insightful junior in high school. 😅

  • @CP2417hd
    @CP2417hd 3 роки тому +149

    Dr Grande, I agree with 100%. I take issue with the judge’s words. A judge’s duty is to enforce the law. Instead he stated a philosophical response about Kennedy’s future of knowing he caused another person’s death. He should have gone to trial for involuntary manslaughter.

    • @ellenvanous5078
      @ellenvanous5078 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, if it was involuntary …???

    • @BillyLapTop
      @BillyLapTop 3 роки тому +5

      I remember when this happened. The judge was a political patsy who issued the get out of jail free card to Kennedy. However the real miscreants in all of this, was the electorate who ignored this episode and looked away and re-elected him numerous times. They had the power to convict him and did not. They aided and abetted his criminal actions on a gigantic scale.

    • @donnaross5105
      @donnaross5105 3 роки тому +1

      @@BillyLapTop Why he was never POTUS.

    • @dcasper8514
      @dcasper8514 3 роки тому +1

      Totally agree. Today's judges above the law .

    • @georgemartin1436
      @georgemartin1436 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, involuntary manslaughter seems appropriate to me...I don't think the fool intended to kill anyone but he needed to go to prison for that, like any of us would under the same circumstances.

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 3 роки тому +47

    Dr Grandes videos are like having a bag of "pick n" mix"....you never know what you're going to get, but you know you'll like it.

  • @betsyr4724
    @betsyr4724 6 місяців тому +3

    I’m listening to this 2024 after watching a documentary on the same subject. There are still many questions. Thanks Dr.

  • @Floppyearsmomma
    @Floppyearsmomma Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this analysis. I did not know that he had spoken to others before going to the police. I think they should have also faced criminal charges.

  • @MrJeffcoley1
    @MrJeffcoley1 3 роки тому +79

    Teddy Kennedy was beloved mainly by the DC Inside the Beltway media. The massive outpouring of public indifference when “The Lion of the Senate” died and was given a funeral befitting a president to very low attendance and empty streets along the parade route was a fitting end to a despicable man.

    • @ericwalstrand3512
      @ericwalstrand3512 6 місяців тому +10

      He was actually "The Lyin' of the Senate."

    • @HighlanderNorth1
      @HighlanderNorth1 6 місяців тому +8

      Was the attendance low? That's great. Wonder how the "newz" mee-dee-uh spun that?

    • @MrJeffcoley1
      @MrJeffcoley1 6 місяців тому +7

      @@HighlanderNorth1 The news reporters were visibly shaken. The cognitive dissonance was too much for them

    • @gigia9515
      @gigia9515 6 місяців тому +4

      Spot on! I am old enough to remember that tragedy well.

  • @smittykins
    @smittykins 3 роки тому +323

    “He would spend time delivering impassioned speeches on the Senate floor, when he should have been spending time delivering impassioned cleaning efforts on a prison floor.”
    Well said.

    • @claraclark3760
      @claraclark3760 Рік тому +10

      So So True!

    • @parsleypalace3272
      @parsleypalace3272 Рік тому +17

      It was the good, compassionate, and progressive people of Massachusetts who gave this individual a senate seat for life. SMH

    • @pamelamyers9613
      @pamelamyers9613 Рік тому +3

      YEAH.

    • @GregWatson-wb8yd
      @GregWatson-wb8yd Рік тому

      @@parsleypalace3272 He buried as a President would have been. Praised by Obama.

    • @DeeDeex007o
      @DeeDeex007o 8 місяців тому +2

      🤣🤣🤣👌👌

  • @Krose333
    @Krose333 3 роки тому +132

    The "chap's acquitted" was a pun coined in reference to this at the time.

    • @Drummondmbf100
      @Drummondmbf100 3 роки тому +6

      That is amazing. I didn't know that....

    • @carolnahigian9518
      @carolnahigian9518 3 роки тому +13

      Ted K called a Mistress/ lady friend BEFORE he phone Joan his own wife; Mary Jo lived 30+ minutes trying to breathe in AIR POCKET, knowing she was dying... so sad.

    • @nothingshouldbewithouteffort
      @nothingshouldbewithouteffort 3 роки тому +4

      Wittily coined.

  • @susanfox6666
    @susanfox6666 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you, Dr. Grande. Very good. This made a huge impression on me back in the day. Everyone seemed to do all they could to give this jerk a pass.

  • @nomopms1
    @nomopms1 7 місяців тому +2

    I remember this being on the news back in the day. Excellent analysis, Doc!

  • @TrixiLovesYou
    @TrixiLovesYou 3 роки тому +143

    You can check all the boxes of corruption in this case, it's so sickening. But it's in line with the great american tradition of the rich and powerful being above the law.

    • @chg1264
      @chg1264 3 роки тому +6

      As most countries… money buys escape from consequences. Bribery works.

    • @canileaveitblank1476
      @canileaveitblank1476 3 роки тому +9

      That’s worldwide, not just USA.

    • @kwas101
      @kwas101 3 роки тому +3

      @@canileaveitblank1476 So correct, I was going to say the same thing. Doesn't just happen in America unfortunately.

    • @jameswilson313
      @jameswilson313 3 роки тому +2

      Unless you're Donald Trump.

  • @carolannburke5450
    @carolannburke5450 3 роки тому +148

    I was 13 years old at that time, and could feel something was fishy with the entire thing/story. RIP Mary Jo....

    • @terrijamison9154
      @terrijamison9154 3 роки тому +4

      Yes, EVERYONE knew!

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 3 роки тому

      "Feel"??

    • @aks8823
      @aks8823 3 роки тому +4

      @@eadweard. Yes, "Feel" could be substituted with the word "intuition".

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 3 роки тому +2

      @@aks8823 Not sure much intuition was needed in this case!

    • @valerielhw
      @valerielhw 3 роки тому +4

      I was also around 13 at the time. As I remember it, the first moon landing happened on the same weekend as the Chappaquiddick incident, and thus news reporting on its gravity was delayed.
      While Ted Kennedy did repeatedly win the Senate after Chappaquiddick, he never became President, as he almost certainly would have if this preventable tragedy had not occurred.
      I do agree that Kennedy should have been convicted of reckless homicide over both his actions and _inactions,_ as anyone else who had not been "rich and powerful" would have.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 3 роки тому +96

    "Ted's only objective was to protect his own political career." So true and so disgusting, even more unforgivable, was that he suffered no consequences for being responsible for the death of a young womans life!
    Such a great analysis, Dr. Grande! Also loved the subtle wit throughout! ;D

    • @kennethsouthard6042
      @kennethsouthard6042 Рік тому +5

      More importantly, the family needed to protect and preserve the Kennedy legacy. There were also many people that made a good living and were in high positions of power that fed off the Kennedy's as well. However, due to this incident in many ways it died a slow death, as it no longer has the mystique and dynastic powers it once did. Those powers may have continued to this day had this incident not occurred. Ted Kennedy would probably have been elected president in 1976 and stayed in office through 84. No telling how many other relatives and associates would have continued to progress after that. Alternatively, had he gone down for manslaughter, the legend would have died a quick and ugly death in 1969 just a year after Bobby and 5 years after Jack were assassinated.

  • @cbroz7492
    @cbroz7492 Рік тому +29

    Mary Jo asked him.. "Ted. what would you do if I told you I was pregnant??? He teplied..."I'll cross that bridge when I come to it..."

    • @sjb3460
      @sjb3460 6 місяців тому +2

      Too True!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Rob-z7k
      @Rob-z7k 5 місяців тому +3

      ...that was possible!

    • @brinsonharris9816
      @brinsonharris9816 5 місяців тому +7

      Mary Jo was and probably still is the only accident victim not autopsied as Mass law requires. The Kennedys had that kind of power in those days.

    • @dawnwesolowski8049
      @dawnwesolowski8049 3 місяці тому +3

      True. I believe it.

    • @krystingrant6292
      @krystingrant6292 3 місяці тому

      I don't believe it they spoke highly of her . how ever Bobby was trying to sleep with her but she wouldn't budge they said Mary would nip that shi in the behind. Wouldn't tolerate sx harassment

  • @honestlyyours1069
    @honestlyyours1069 2 роки тому +3

    I do remember hearing about this incident in 1969. I was too young at the time to understand the full ramifications of this incident, but gained new insights about it from watching Dr. Grande's presentation. I have to agree with his conclusion that Ted Kennedy was guilty of impaired driving causing death, but escaped a jail sentence because of his family"s reputation.

  • @marijo1951
    @marijo1951 3 роки тому +39

    I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of the incident Dr Grande. His actions after the accident were breathtakingly self-serving and despicable. Whether or not the lights were on in the nearest house, no decent person would mind being woken up to help in such circumstances.
    What was new to me was that Ted Kennedy was such a mediocre student and known to be a cheat, as well as his earlier convictions for driving offences. No wonder he felt so entitled when he was accepted by Harvard after achieving Bs and Cs, and was allowed to go back there after being caught cheating. Was this the result of some huge donation from his family I wonder, because nobody else would have been given a second chance.

  • @connie5768
    @connie5768 3 роки тому +287

    It has always boggled my mind that the people of Massachusetts continued to keep this man in office for so many years, where he continued a pampered and protected life until he died. He was a narcissistic, disgusting human being who left a young woman to die.

    • @mcgilldi
      @mcgilldi 2 роки тому

      Ah, the people of Massachusetts. They continued to elect a congressman, Gerry Studds, every 2 years forever. Mr. Studds got a young male page drunk and sexually assaulted him. He was censured by Congress.

    • @pmccoy8924
      @pmccoy8924 Рік тому

      Sounds like Joe Biden. Many of his faults ignored while his orange opponent had things made up in return the sheep "voted" the clown in. Democrats are immune to the DOJ. Prior to 2020 every major politician was immune. Different DOJ now. Arm of the democrat party. Same goes for the Bush clowns. All immune and committed horrible acts, allegedly. From Prescot down to GW. All vile.

    • @michaelterry4394
      @michaelterry4394 Рік тому +2

      Doesn't mean he was a bad person.. Lol. He was not a complete3 loser he did serve as a very Bad example of how not to act as a reasonable human being. not everybody I. MASS IS a fan of the late senator. group think is a bad trait.

    • @janetrjones7815
      @janetrjones7815 Рік тому +15

      I totally agree with you. I guess the Democratic machine in Mass. is very good.

    • @jguillot72
      @jguillot72 Рік тому

      @@michaelterry4394 He was a bad man. He was a congenital liar, cheater, and a drunk. A stain and embarrassment to the US. His continued re-election is a clear indictment of the integrity of Massachusetts voters integrity.

  • @pamd6532
    @pamd6532 3 роки тому +78

    The most tragic part of this to me is she may have suffocated. Even if you were drunk, this would have been a terribly frightening way to die.

    • @lindap.p.1337
      @lindap.p.1337 3 роки тому +8

      I wish I had not heard this part.

    • @Jonathanbegg
      @Jonathanbegg 3 роки тому +6

      It also meant that she could have been saved quite easily.

    • @claudeabraham2347
      @claudeabraham2347 3 роки тому +4

      I remember reading that she suffocated. If that is true, then Ted exited his car before it went off the bridge. If Ted was in the car after it landed in the water, his only escape possible was opening his door. Had he done that, the car interior fills up with water. And Mary Jo surely drowns. If she actually suffocated, then Ted escaped from the car before it hit the water. Something to think about.

    • @vaekkriinhart4347
      @vaekkriinhart4347 Рік тому

      I think she was prolly knocked unconcious in the crash OR was incapacitated by date rape drug prior..(this was same time period when bill cosby was drugging women).
      It's very suspicious that no autopsy was performed on her. That's insane. And a .09 alcohol level is not very high at all. It's like 3 beers. That's almost nothing. She wasn't drunk

    • @vaekkriinhart4347
      @vaekkriinhart4347 Рік тому

      @@claudeabraham2347 Were the windows open or closed? We don't know. It makes a big difference

  • @melrei64
    @melrei64 Рік тому

    Dr Grande, you're awesome! You are able to inject humor into the most grisly topics without being distasteful or inappropriate. That's skills.....

  • @briansykes2806
    @briansykes2806 2 роки тому +1

    I remember this well, and find myself agreeing with almost every word Dr Grande says here.

  • @JHjh88
    @JHjh88 3 роки тому +29

    I really enjoyed this Dr Grande. The Boiler Room Girls worked so hard to achieve the Kennedy's goels, yet their lives meant little to nothing to these powerful men. I'm Australian & have no vested interest in US politics. Thank you again for this upload.

  • @stuartanderson852
    @stuartanderson852 3 роки тому +99

    On UA-cam there was a radio interview conducted in the 1970's with the diver who found Mary Jo's body.
    He confirmed that unlike drowning victims, where lots of water comes out of the mouth, there was hardly any water in her lungs, thereby showing she had died of asphyxiation.
    He said that she could have been alive for maybe three hours after the crash - that's why the Kennedy family were so desperate to stop any autopsy by a local pathologist.
    The fact that Ted Kennedy had maybe three hours to do something but didn't would have destroyed his career.
    Did the Kennedy family pay off the victim's family?
    Who knows but it wouln't surprise me.

    • @vaekkriinhart4347
      @vaekkriinhart4347 Рік тому +1

      there was no autopsy so, how could anyone know about water in her lungs- or lack thereof ?

    • @ljowa
      @ljowa Рік тому +14

      @@vaekkriinhart4347 a rescue diver would know when water runs out of the victim's mouth. Remember a drowning victim inhales water, if they were dead already they wouldn't.

    • @tomdixon1213
      @tomdixon1213 Рік тому +24

      To this day I feel that Mary Jo’s body should be exhumed and properly autopsied to see if she had child. The embryo could undergo dna analysis and matched to Kennedy’s. That an autopsy was suppressed was criminal unto itself.

    • @paulskopic5844
      @paulskopic5844 Рік тому +4

      @@tomdixon1213 BINGO

    • @Callsonly
      @Callsonly Рік тому +6

      OMG , didn't know any of this nfo
      OMG she died a horrible death. R.I.P. Mary Jo. God will see there is justice in the afterlife 😢😢😮

  • @BucketHeadianHagg
    @BucketHeadianHagg 3 роки тому +64

    I only recently became interested in this story. I had no idea that this strange and terrible thing happened. Thank you for doing this one, Dr Grande

    • @BucketHeadianHagg
      @BucketHeadianHagg 3 роки тому +2

      I loved your opinion of his guilt/innocence, his attitude,, and some historical details surrounding the people involved.

    • @jonibrown6864
      @jonibrown6864 3 роки тому +7

      You youngans😉just kidding. Yes i would hear things growing up then later in life get the details. He got away bc of money and NAME

    • @jacobr1671
      @jacobr1671 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, there was even a movie about it. But only after Ted died.

    • @greyone40
      @greyone40 3 роки тому +4

      Dr. Grande has packed quite a bit of information into this short video. If you want to read more, I recommend the book "Death at Chappaquiddick" by Richard and Thomas Tedrow. They give it extensive coverage, and there is a lot of original testimony included.

    • @BucketHeadianHagg
      @BucketHeadianHagg 3 роки тому +3

      @@greyone40 excellent comment! I'm very interested in the book. Thank you for the suggestion!

  • @georgeeverette3912
    @georgeeverette3912 6 місяців тому +4

    He is buried in Arlington cemetery for his very short time in the Army. He started his service in a school for military intelligence when he was suddenly dropped from the program. Something to do with inappropriate actions with a female soldier. He was then transferred into a ceremonial guard unit where he was essentially lawn furniture at NATO dinner parties and change of command ceremonies. For his service here he was buried with the greatest heroes that this nations has. If I ever go there I will be sure to put a white chicken feather on his grave to show my respect for his service to this nation.

  • @charshroat5618
    @charshroat5618 2 роки тому +5

    Yes Dr. I agree with your thoughts wholeheartedly on that situation. An awful case of how money and power will generally have their way. Rip Mary Jo.

  • @ppumpkin3282
    @ppumpkin3282 3 роки тому +25

    Teddy appeared at my High School in Massachusetts about a year after this. I think he was drying to rehab his image. It was the first time I ever saw someone who didn't answer questions directly - when a student asked him a question, he would lean over and whisper to an advisor. That was eye opening to me as a student - that a US Senator couldn't answer questions without help. As he drove away a lot of kids were watching him and we all said "drive carefully".

    • @HB-hs1nr
      @HB-hs1nr 3 місяці тому

      Great Freudian slip: "drying to rehab his image," !!

  • @LisaD007
    @LisaD007 3 роки тому +9

    Some people are above the law no matter how guilty they are. And the truth is that Joe Kennedy protected all of his children from the law. He had many many connections and he was a very corrupt man. This is probably the greatest example of how Joe Kennedy was able to protect one of his children from the consequences of their actions. Great job Dr. grande. I always enjoy your analysis. Keep up the great work. Someday it would be great to meet you at one of your conferences. Although I am an applied behavior analyst and these are the conferences that I go to the most often. However, maybe someday our paths will cross at a professional conference at some point. I would love the opportunity to meet you in person.

    • @MrRaulstrnad
      @MrRaulstrnad 6 місяців тому

      Joe Kennedy was a totally evil man, in his businessman days he very likely ordered several murders and probably was an out-and-out rapist. Don't even mention the Nazi ties. At the time of Chappaquiddick he was living with the consequences of a major stroke which deprived him off the ability to speak thus his ability to cover up scandals was severely limited. As a consequence, Chappaquiddick was severely mishandled and blew up in their faces. Just think; Chappaquiddick is the scandal we know about, what horrors were probably covered up when Joe Kennedy was in his prime.

  • @Kissmymezuzah
    @Kissmymezuzah 3 роки тому +153

    I remember that Mary Jo was reportedly pregnant with Ted's child. We knew then, that pay offs were going to be the biggest part of this incident.
    From that time,and then every time since then, when I saw him on TV, I wondered about his conscience...or the lack of one. And the lack of shame.
    Money doesn't just talk, it gurgles the blood from anyone who gets in it's way...

    • @micheleparker8123
      @micheleparker8123 3 роки тому +5

      So true!

    • @sidneycat432
      @sidneycat432 3 роки тому +21

      When Mary Jo told Ted she was pregnant, he said that we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

    • @deborah9775
      @deborah9775 3 роки тому +2

      If she was preg. the autopsy,tissues & blood test would have shown up. Pay offs been ongoing for quite a while with several repub/trumplican party!

    • @csckitty
      @csckitty 3 роки тому +7

      @@deborah9775 @6:43 it was stated no autopsy was done.

    • @ninaappelt9001
      @ninaappelt9001 3 роки тому +4

      The Kennedy pockets ran deep.

  • @lenorevelez6563
    @lenorevelez6563 3 роки тому +2

    You are so close to reaching 1million subscribers. My Christmas wish to you, Dr. Grande, is for you to reach over 1million subs if not by Christmas but before the end of this year. You deserve it for all the great videos you produce.

  • @tompaul2591
    @tompaul2591 Рік тому +2

    Yes. Definitely. Why wouldn't you immediately call authorities, cops, fire, ems, whomever.

  • @donaburns1910
    @donaburns1910 3 роки тому +12

    Excellent Dr Grande. My 82 year old mom still hasn't forgotten what happened. To this day, if I want to see her light up and go on a verbal tear I just mention his name. It's good when she gets the slow blood, brings her BP up right back to normal. RIP Mary Jo, rot in wherever ted.

  • @bwktlcn
    @bwktlcn 3 роки тому +85

    My mom remembers that initially Mary Jo’s parents were very vocal about finding out what happened, why there was not an immediate notification to police that Mary Jo was in a submerged car, prosecuting Ted for at least manslaughter, etc....and then, suddenly, they were very quiet. No more calls for an investigation, it was just an accident. She said everyone at the time figured there had been $$$$ (beyond the mentioned money), threats or both to make her family go away.

    • @terrideutsch6820
      @terrideutsch6820 3 роки тому +27

      My father's employee and her husband were friends of Mary Jo's parents. She was their only child and their life. They were completely devastated and were ready to fight to the end for justice for their daughter. The Kennedys thru intermediaries threatened them not too subtedly and they accepted $100,000 (I think) to shut up and
      go away. They did! This case disgusts me to this day . I used to gag when I saw Ted on tv for years.

    • @gbonkers666
      @gbonkers666 3 роки тому +10

      They were paid off.

    • @janecoe9407
      @janecoe9407 3 роки тому +2

      WELLL THEY GOT MONEY ACCORDING TO DR GRANDE...

    • @austinteutsch
      @austinteutsch 3 роки тому +15

      Just check the bank account of Mary Jo's parents. The $90K and the insurance $50 was on top of the table. Who knows how much was to then under the table.

    • @gbonkers666
      @gbonkers666 3 роки тому +4

      @@austinteutsch same thing happened to the family of the girl that Joseph Kennedy (bobby's son) maimed in a car crash. Bought off the family).

  • @WoodlandPoetry
    @WoodlandPoetry 3 роки тому +15

    Thank you for another good one, Doctor! I'm glad you covered so much. I remember this only as a garbled mess and did watch his speech on television. The one thing that had somehow burned itself into my brain was that within a month, his wife Joan suffered a miscarriage. She was an alcoholic, and I can't imagine that this incident helped her very much. Thanks again! 👍🏻

  • @gregmilliken5538
    @gregmilliken5538 Рік тому +1

    Great video!! I was a junior in high school when this happened. Many of us speculated that Mary-Jo was pregnant and had confronted Kennedy and tried to get him to leave his wife for her.

  • @marttimattila9561
    @marttimattila9561 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank You to take this up.

  • @toniemorrison4263
    @toniemorrison4263 3 роки тому +68

    Good topic, Dr. Grande. The entire cover up is a shameful part of U.S. history, but Americans have never been able to resist the Kennedys. Incidentally, years ago, Joyce Carol Oates wrote a novella about the incident called, "Black Water," that is really heartbreaking. It humanizes Mary Jo which is a good thing since her death (absolutely devastating for her parents) was nothing more for Ted than another pesky political obstacle to overcome.

    • @JHjh88
      @JHjh88 3 роки тому +7

      I love your comment. I wish I was able to articulate it as well as you. I read some extracts from the book. The Boiler Room Girls worked so hard & their lives obviously meant little to nothing to the Kennedy family. ❤️ From Australia

    • @pamelavanauker1782
      @pamelavanauker1782 3 роки тому +1

      Great comment on JCO "Black Water". I've read it several times. Heartbreaking and so haunting.

  • @alexandracash8106
    @alexandracash8106 3 роки тому +9

    Dr. Grande's videos are all over the map. I love it. I really like this high profile historical cases. Dr. Grande does tell us his opinion often, but rarely does it with this much passion. I do like really getting his take on what happened.

  • @Relayer56
    @Relayer56 3 роки тому +36

    The story goes that at the party Mary Jo told Ted she was pregnant by him. She asked, "What are we going to do?" Ted replied, "We'll cross that bridge when we get to it."

  • @robdavidson993
    @robdavidson993 2 роки тому +4

    I remember the National Lampoon advertisement of a VW bug half submerged in a lake and the statement was “if Ted Kennedy had been driving a VW, he would be president today”

  • @lisaroy551
    @lisaroy551 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the succinct and honest evaluation. The last couple of sentences is absolutely what I believe. His career was far more important that the life of Mary Jo. My mom even knew it back when it happened, without the internet. Truth revealed itself in those days. Shameful.

  • @beverleypettit3577
    @beverleypettit3577 3 роки тому +7

    Narcissist.
    Truly horrific.
    Thank you Dr Grande.

  • @beckyenglish4783
    @beckyenglish4783 3 роки тому +113

    Love how he “just” graduated from school, yet got in to Harvard!

    • @judithgannon5642
      @judithgannon5642 3 роки тому +12

      These schools have legacies

    • @aks8823
      @aks8823 3 роки тому +14

      @@judithgannon5642 Exactly right, and Harvard still lets you in according to legacies and who you know.

    • @robertodell9193
      @robertodell9193 3 роки тому +11

      Money talks...

    • @Jonathanbegg
      @Jonathanbegg 3 роки тому +11

      About on a level with George 'Dubya' Bush graduating from Yale - with a little help, maybe?

    • @shahrulamar5358
      @shahrulamar5358 2 роки тому +2

      @@aks8823 Even founder of Microsoft failed to get degree from Harvard.

  • @andreajanota6258
    @andreajanota6258 3 роки тому +55

    I’m thinking Mary Jo grabbed Rosemary’s purse by mistake probably.

    • @TheTrevelyansway
      @TheTrevelyansway 3 роки тому +13

      I think they went out just to have sex and we’re going to go back to the party but he crashed drunk into the water.

    • @mmaranta785
      @mmaranta785 3 роки тому +4

      @@TheTrevelyansway Me too. Mary Jo was found not wearing any underwear. What might have happened is they were getting busy in the back seat, another car saw them, Ted could not be seen due to his career and being married, either he or she sped off in a hurry and went off the bridge.

  • @two_tier_gary_rumain
    @two_tier_gary_rumain 6 місяців тому +3

    I'm rewatching this again after 2 years. So Teddy was about as bright as Bidumb. Both last in their class.
    One thing never mentioned was whether his clothes were still wet by the time he returned to the party house. July is middle of Summer but would the nights be warm enough to dry off his wet clothes in that time? Presumably, if he did drive off the bridge, he would have gotten wet. Surely someone at the party would have noticed this.

  • @maureencage1972
    @maureencage1972 2 роки тому +1

    Oh Man! I wanted to jump off a bridge into a muddy pond just listening to this analysis of the incident. Absolutely brilliant as ever - I love your work and exquisitely wry, astute humour Dr. Grande! 🇬🇧

  • @greglapointe1311
    @greglapointe1311 3 роки тому +24

    Good analysis, I completely agree. I remember when this happened and it seems the only people who were fooled by Ted were the people in the justice system. I always felt that poor Mary Jo never got her justice.

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 3 роки тому +23

    Great analysis Dr Grande. This seems like an entitled, rich man. It shouldn't have mattered that he was a Kennedy, he still was involved in this woman drowning. I agree he should at least been charged with manslaughter. My sympathy goes to the family of Mary Jo. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis and topic.

  • @synthiamcbride7194
    @synthiamcbride7194 3 роки тому +25

    I was in 9th grade when this happened. Most adults I remember talking about this were appalled by Kennedy's actions and the lack of legal penalties. The spell of "Camelot" and the shock of the deaths RFK and MLK, Jr., along with the wealth and political power of the Kennedy family prevailed and Mary Jo did not get justice.

    • @kennethsouthard6042
      @kennethsouthard6042 Рік тому

      Sadly, I remember an article about 10 or so years ago where a "supposed" friend of Mary Jo stated that she (Mary Jo) that she was so dedicated to the causes of what Ted was fighting for that she would have been okay with him getting off and being able to keep up that fight vs. him losing his seat over it, even though it meant that she was sacrificed in the process.

  • @r.d.3709
    @r.d.3709 3 роки тому

    100% correct analysis, Dr. Grande, and kudos for "calling a spade a spade" rather than pussyfooting around Ted Kennedy's obvious guilt and lack of contrition. Extra points for your deadpan sense of humor.

  • @cardinalflower6959
    @cardinalflower6959 3 роки тому +8

    Theory #3 makes the most sense to me. I think Ted's anticipated liaison was with Rosemary K. I don't believe either of them knew Mary Jo K was in the car until the following morning. I keep hoping Rosemary will spill the beans before she dies. RIP Mary Jo.

    • @Seabasstien
      @Seabasstien Рік тому

      Yes I am curious how Rosemary's purse was in the car and Rosemary wasn't there also, was she ever interviewed? Did Mary Jo pick up Rosemary's purse by mistake, highly unlikely, women might forget their purse but also unlikely and the fact Mary Jo was in the backseat supports 3 people who were probably drunk. One thing is clear is really bad judgment and a cover up the lack of which might have saved Mary Jo's life.

  • @kibblenbits
    @kibblenbits 3 роки тому +93

    I'm old enough to remember when this happened. Ted got out of the car, walked past houses and a fire station, went back to where he was staying for 9 hours, before it was reported to the authorities, the next morning. There was no autopsy done on her (if she'd had been your daughter, you would have demanded it and so would I) and later on, her parents bought themselves a new home (they got a lot more money than stated). Also, the diver, who had recovered many drowning victims, stated that when he brought her body to shore, no water came out of her nose or mouth and the way he found her in the car, her head was stretched back, like she was straining to breath, in the air pocket. Everyone knows that there are really two justice systems, one for the rich and one for the poor. Just like today, you had morons who will still vote for a liar and criminal, although at that time, it was at the state level, not national.

    • @lulumoon6942
      @lulumoon6942 Рік тому +2

      👆👆👆

    • @bobs182
      @bobs182 Рік тому +2

      I think we have 4 levels of justice: wealthy, middle class, poor, and poor black.

    • @JosephBrazzo
      @JosephBrazzo Рік тому +1

      Yeah bro you NAILED IT.

    • @two_tier_gary_rumain
      @two_tier_gary_rumain 6 місяців тому

      It's like he wanted her to die. He was certainly stalling for time. Presumably because he was drunk.

  • @CARDINAL701
    @CARDINAL701 3 роки тому +59

    I always thought this incident was what kept Ted Kennedy from the Presidency.

    • @caulkins69
      @caulkins69 3 роки тому +20

      Unfortunately, it didn't stop the People's Republic of Massachusetts from continuing to elect him senator.

    • @paulabuck5976
      @paulabuck5976 3 роки тому +14

      @@caulkins69 That same People’s Republic also elected Governor Mitt Romney for a few terms. You can look it up….. I’m just saying. 🤷‍♀️

    • @davenjahtisan
      @davenjahtisan 3 роки тому +7

      I believe it did too. I remember when he started to run, the newspapers brought up this incident big time.

    • @dcasper8514
      @dcasper8514 3 роки тому +3

      And rightly so.

    • @mcgilldi
      @mcgilldi 2 роки тому +3

      @@caulkins69 look up 2 Massachusetts congressmen, Barney Frank and Gerry Studds

  • @julievorensky8250
    @julievorensky8250 3 роки тому +14

    You got this one right. His behavior was despicable at every turn.

  • @AnneMoshtael
    @AnneMoshtael 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent analysis, Dr Grande. Thank you 🌟

  • @dennischallinor8497
    @dennischallinor8497 3 роки тому +1

    Ever since day one I've believed exactly what you're saying here. Good show, good research.

  • @willnill7946
    @willnill7946 3 роки тому +64

    What makes me angry is no one wanted to talk about this when he was alive. This wasn’t some question of being inappropriate, there was a dead body that everyone was trying to excuse away

    • @benfaunce7496
      @benfaunce7496 3 роки тому +20

      An old relative of mine was a Navy Hospital Liason and took Ted around to visit wounded sailors back in the day. He said one such sailor was laid up, covered in bandages and when Ted asked him what happened to him he said "well I had a few drinks one night and took a girl home until I got to a bridge and drove off it..." at which point Ted angrily stormed out.

    • @DaringDaver
      @DaringDaver 3 роки тому +3

      This, Exactly ^^^

    • @IrritatedOnion
      @IrritatedOnion 3 роки тому +6

      this was definitely talked about. this scared his entire legacy and was brought up all the time by his opponents. its also one of the big reasons why he could never become president.

    • @willnill7946
      @willnill7946 3 роки тому +5

      @@IrritatedOnion didn’t effect his senate elections. Didn’t stop him coming on tv to talk about issues of the day. Didn’t stop him from being invited to social functions. But it stopped the brother of a former president from becoming president himself. Such punishment. I also blame the girls family for taking the money

    • @sandrasanders706
      @sandrasanders706 3 роки тому +1

      @@benfaunce7496 WOW!!!!

  • @isabelled.7732
    @isabelled.7732 3 роки тому +68

    I don’t personally believe that Ted was in the car. How would he have been able to escape and not her? If he broke a window, she would have been able to as well. No, I think he was covering up some sort of relationship with her- maybe she was pregnant? In any case, I think he pushed the car (with her in it) into the water and pretended it was an accident. Maybe she was already incapacitated. The fact that no autopsy was done speaks volumes.

    • @robertmatz2925
      @robertmatz2925 3 роки тому +21

      I also don't believe that Teddy Bare was in the car. Imagine how difficult it would have been for him to exit the car under the influence of alcohol and in complete darkness. The fact that there was no autopsy done is very suspicious . I don't think he planned it out and pushed the car into the water and pretend it was an accident. The dirt/stone road was nine tenths of a mile to the bridge so there was no mistake that he was on that road. They were going to the desolate beach on the other side of the bridge to have some together time. The fact that she had no undergarments on when they found her the next day confirms this. If this was planned he would not have had to make so many phone calls the night of the accident to lawyers to make up a fairy tale of what happened. I believe he pulled the car over and ordered her to drive the car to the beach because he didn't want to be found alone with Mary Jo by the police car or another car. He said he would walk down the road and meet her at the beach. Imagine the shock when he arrived at the beach and saw no car around. Maybe he did see the headlights underwater. Him and the lawyers made up the fairy tale about him diving into the water many times to try and rescue her. It sure sounded good to hear that. I think he told Mary Jo's parents that she was driving the car and that is why she did not make a big deal about the accident and her dying. The cause of this accident was the fact that the road to the bridge did not go straight across the water. The bridge was at an angle when it crossed the water so any car in the dark, not knowing the road, would drive right into the water unknowingly. And Mary Jo was most likely driving fast at the time in total darkness.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 3 роки тому +7

      If he broke a window then she must have been capable of doing so? What an wonderfully irrational idea.

    • @isabelled.7732
      @isabelled.7732 3 роки тому +13

      @@eadweard. sorry I typed that wrong. What I meant was- if he broke a window, she should have been able to go through that same broken window to get out.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 3 роки тому +5

      @@isabelled.7732 I see. But why would she have found the same hole or even known it existed?

    • @isabelled.7732
      @isabelled.7732 3 роки тому +7

      @@eadweard. I know that it was dark out and she was most likely intoxicated. But assuming she was conscious, you’d think she’d notice an opening big enough for a human to fit through, especially if Ted had already escaped through it. If nothing else, there would be water rushing through to clue her in. I don’t know, it just seems unlikely to me that she’d be unable to escape if Ted had already done so. He also claims he has no memory of how he got out of the car- don’t you think you’d remember something traumatic like that?

  • @scnurse
    @scnurse 3 роки тому +45

    "Ted wanted quality time alone w/ Mary Jo for the purposes of romance." Doc Grande is so polite.

    • @ynp1978
      @ynp1978 3 роки тому +1

      I know! I would have said "he wanted to stroke her senseless out on the beach"!

    • @Jonathanbegg
      @Jonathanbegg 3 роки тому +3

      I wish others were. We all know what he meant, but spared us the unnecessary embarrassment.

    • @mmaranta785
      @mmaranta785 3 роки тому +1

      She was found wearing no underwear, so that tells you something right there

    • @KSparks80
      @KSparks80 6 місяців тому

      He later taught Bill Clinton his signature "romantic" move. They later named it "Bill & Ted's Sexual Adventure". lol

  • @antionettewardell2151
    @antionettewardell2151 2 роки тому +3

    I agree with you. Such a sad story about the young lady that never got justice.

  • @dancalmpeaceful3903
    @dancalmpeaceful3903 3 роки тому

    Dr. Grande - your analysis is correct and SPOT ON.....period.

  • @michael-m
    @michael-m 3 роки тому +38

    This one has always made me sick thinking about it

  • @sherryberry3902
    @sherryberry3902 3 роки тому +18

    You nailed it. I remember this tragic incident. Everyone pretty much knew what happened..He is responsible for her death. He acted in a very cowardly and selfish manner. He used the Kennedy name and influence to avoid any actions being taken against himself. It did kill his chances for ever being President. We all knew the awful truth. .

  • @GonzoTheRosarian
    @GonzoTheRosarian 3 роки тому +13

    There was a book that was called “Senatorial Privilege” (available used) on this incident, it will give you chills down your spine knowing what was done to cover this up…

  • @jeffsmith4110
    @jeffsmith4110 Рік тому +9

    I heard a plausible theory on another channel... that he saw the police and let MJK drive, opting to walk back to the house to avoid a DUI. SHE made the wrong turn and drove off the bridge. He wasn't even in the car. That would explain how he couldn't remember how he got out. Also it explains why he was calm at his hotel the following morning and didn't become excited until he received a visit from someone who had knowledge of MJK's accident -- just something to think about.

  • @robertsansone1680
    @robertsansone1680 3 роки тому +3

    That puke is buried at Arlington National Cemetery. I get nauseous when I think about it. I recommend the book "Senatorial Privilege" by Leo Damore. It will really make you nauseous.

  • @barbarairvin1219
    @barbarairvin1219 3 роки тому +34

    You are absolutely correct in your analysis of the situation. It was also known that they wanted to skip an autopsy because she was pregnant by Ted Kennedy. They were having an affair. He needed to cover up this because he was drunk, he was well-known in Massachusetts for being a very heavy drinker. And this was not the first time he cheated on his wife not the last. Thanks again for a very good show. I enjoyed it very much

    • @Orphen42O
      @Orphen42O Рік тому

      I was young when this happened. It is doubtful that she was pregnant. An autopsy would reveal whether a woman was a virgin or not. In those days, it was embarrassing for an unmarried woman not to be a virgin. A lot of pressure was placed on Mary Jo's parents not to permit the exhumation of Mary Jo's body.

    • @Mutasis_Mutandis
      @Mutasis_Mutandis 5 місяців тому

      Sounds like gossip. There was no proof she was pregnant.

  • @nishottara777
    @nishottara777 3 роки тому +17

    I thought the film Chappaquiddick that came out a few years back did some justice to Mary Jo. RIP.

  • @banjoist123
    @banjoist123 3 роки тому +31

    Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande. I have always thought that if Mary Jo left her purse at the party, she had every intention of returning there. Rosemary's purse was in the car because she fully expected Kennedy and Mary Jo to return. Nobody was headed to the ferry. They were going to find a dark place to engage in sex. Were he not a Kennedy, he would have served time, if only for negligent homicide.

    • @cardinalflower6959
      @cardinalflower6959 3 роки тому +5

      Rosemary's purse was in the front of the car because Rosemary herself was in the front passenger seat when drunken Ted drove off the bridge. Neither of them knew that Mary Jo was asleep/passed out in the back seat. That's the only theory that makes any sense. C'mon, Rosemary, if you have any respect at all for your friend and colleague Mary Jo, step up and tell the truth about that night. Otherwise, Mary Jo's name will continue to be dragged through the mud, as you can readily see from these comments.

    • @donnaross5105
      @donnaross5105 3 роки тому +2

      @@cardinalflower6959 the party attendees were paid off to keep their mouths shut.

    • @williamwingo4740
      @williamwingo4740 3 роки тому +5

      @@donnaross5105 They were all Kennedy loyalists and groupies, so that was a minor expense.

  • @danielasideri1586
    @danielasideri1586 2 роки тому +1

    Dr Grande, I think you nailed it!

  • @DominionMobile
    @DominionMobile 9 місяців тому

    Great analysis! I heard that after they saw the police, he got out of the car and told her to drive away, and that she was unfamiliar with driving the car and the roads and the bridge and drove off it. And that's why he didn't know what happened.