Thank you. My brother and i are empty nesters and needed a hobby to give us something to do and a reason to hang out. He got a 94 goldwing and within a week i got a 92. I dont even have a permit yet. I just found your channel and know ou are going to be the best resource for us. This channel has me even more excited about my bike.
First time viewer. Very helpful information, thoroughly delivered. A small tip for those that have yet to install straps (as you have) to avoid losing the side covers. When 1up, raise the passenger foot boards. If a cover does come loose it makes it harder for it to escape. Not an issue when 2up. I look forward to visiting Goldwing Docs.
Hi Scott, I want to thank you for this video. I currently am dealing with the relay/ silonoid that deals with the starter. I started and moved the bike out from the garage , when I turned off the key the engine stopped but the starter did not, I could not get the starter to stop by turning on /off the key & kill switch so I kicked the bike in gear , that finally did it after lunching forward another 10 or so feet. I went to my goldwing docs searching & sent an email so I've purchased both silonoids & decided to have the starter over hauled/ rewired as I no longer trust it for continued use. Thx for the info both by emails & videos . I also am going to order all new replacement relays as I had my 1500 for 13 years now with no issues so far but after watching this video I think it's time to replace them. Also, one last thing, the " straps " that you have on your bike that keeps the side covers from being lost , where can I find those ? Or what do I use to make my own ? Thx for the goldwing doc videos, I go back to them often. Dennis S. Harrisonville, Mo.
Hi Scott - Enjoy your website and the UA-cam channel! You've probably helped out more people than half the mechanics in my state over the years. I just ordered a couple relays, one of which I hope to use as a replacement for the fuel pump on my old GL1200. I know it's not OEM, but those are running close to $100 now - if you can even get one. (I think Randakk's still has them.) For the price difference I think I can do a bit of creative engineering and relocate the thing so it's not such a pain to get to. Thanks!!
Great video Scott. Totally appreciate the way you teach! I just acquired a 2007 Goldwing trike and will check out more of your videos as I learn this thing. You just won a new subscriber here!
Dear Toby, Hope you're feline good. Just to let you know that I hit subscribe and ordered a couple of relays for my GL1500SE Trike. I'm learning quite a lot before my Goldwing has actually got to me. It's being transported from the bottom of the country, hopefully just in time for me to acclimatise, and then head off touring... to the bottom of the country and back again. I'm sure that it will be purring like a kitten all the way.
Good day, Scott On the 2 (4) seat bolts I put a nut on them and ground a small point down below the minor diameter on my bench grinder, that worked out very well. Yes, take the nut off first to chase the threads. You are one hell of a teacher, thank you so much! Johnny Boy
Thanks John! You can actually buy those bolts made with a taper in place, which is a great idea for those frustrating things: www.amazon.com/Show-Chrome-Accessories-52-843-Tapered/dp/B00TV6SCQS/ref=sr_1_2?tag=goldwingdocs-20
Just bought a 90 GL1500SE, learning as I go. It needs some work. I'll be checking out the relays tomorrow, already joined your site. Think I'll take your advice and order some relays from you.
Hi Scott, you are right about carrying extra relays, two years ago I was stuck on a junction road somewhere in Wyoming so dont forget the extra relays and fuses, by the way I watched your how to comments on spraying contact cleaner on the buttons for the cruise control and the cruise on switch and it didnt work for me , any other suggestions. Thank you for the videos River city wings
Thank you for another awesome video! I have a 2004 GL1800 and would like to know how to test the tail light relay? I blow a 15amp mini fuse everytime I turn on the ignition. I don't have tail lights and the gauges don't work as well. Thanks again, appreciate it. 👍
job well done as Scott always does, have translated into Hebrew the explanation part .for the mechanics in our workshop , for learning purpose , its the clearest way of explaining the reason for relay"s i have yet seen THANKS SCOTT Steve Taylor if need be, you can have them sent to my US address and i will send them on to you !!
Great informative videos! New subscriber here. I’m acquiring my first GoldWing in a few weeks. It was my father in law’s, getting it from his estate. It’s a 2002 GL 1800. The GoldWing has been my dream bike ever since the 80’s. I’ve had 3 other motorcycles over the years, just never had one that big and heavy. (My biggest was a 750 Yamaha) I’m hoping to ride it from Phoenix area to our place in northern Indiana this summer. I’m going through your videos on here and learning all you GoldWing specific tips. Thanks!!
I have 2000 Gold Wing 1500 SE. My kick stand light, trunk running lights, temperature and gas guage needles just quit working. I have checked my fuses they are all OK. Do I needle to check my relays ? Trunk brake lights still work.
There are solid state relays with no moving parts . I have SSR’s that are from the 1970’s and they still work. SSRs are great for controlling high current loads ; back in the 1980’s in electronics school , I made a circuit that flashes a 120 volt light bulb at 15 hertz which consisted of a 555 timer set to a stable mode with a 50% duty cycle connected to the front end of the solid state relay ; they light bulb switched on and off with no issue . I have SSRs that can handle 10 amp loads , 120, 240 volt , 12, 24 volt … they are available all over the net .
Thank You for so much info.I have a 1990 wing with a fuel problem, I thought the pump was bad ,pulled fuel line from pump and no fuel flow,tank is full, HELP
What was the push to talk button for? I am going to be purchasing j&m wired headsets will I need one of them or will my passenger be able to talk to me at will? Thank you very much for your videos they sure are helpful
Many people do buy a full set of 7 relays and change them all out: they are mechanical devices, subject to a lot of vibration, and they do wear out. Most people have one fail, then they will buy 3 or 4: one to replace the failed one, and a few to have or carry as backups.
Great video Scott! When you were explaining the relays, you mentioned that there is "another bigger relay" that is in the starting system. I have bought a couple of relays from you, but I believe they are the smaller ones. What is the description of the "bigger" relay and should I have one of them too?
The two relays that run the starter are on the other side of the bike, and are known as starter relay A and starter relay B. They are different from one another, and while you could potentially carry spares, that's going to take up a bit of space, as they are much larger. You can see pictures and locations of them here: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6637#p29355
Nice finding this I haven't read about this happening on GW Doc yet, but a member for sure as i just bought a 97 the same color as yours, Most I looked at were black or dark green and both disappear from your site to easy, so I guess I need to order a few to get ready for one going , guess I need to check the manual to see what runs what
Just ordered a few. Just in case. I did have a starter relay just burn out on me on my 2000 Honda Goldwing. GL1500 Aspencade. It was showing signs off issues when I push on the starter button and nothing would happen then after a few attempts it started. Next to the battery is a round looking relay with a fuse box attached to it. two large nuts on top connect positive red wires. The fuse box has a burn mark on it. I have lost all power to lights, instrument panel, radio, cb and everything under the sun. I put a screw driver across the two terminals and the bike kicks over but wont start. I found the relay on amazon I ordered. Not sure if you have a video on this issue but I hear its common with older bikes. I called several shops in south west michigan in attempts to have them look at my bike and no one will touch a bike older than 15 years old. Love this bike but starting to regret buying a bike no one is willing to work on and no replacement parts are available after market for it.
In relation to the current breakdown (motorcycle no longer starts with blackout) The 20A relays, I reversed some to see, it doesn't change anything, so I concluded that the failure didn't come from there.
Thank you for the video. Just so I understand, does this help if you have a Goldwing that cranks but won’t turn over? I’m trying to go from easiest to hardest as I diagnose this new to me Goldwing. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
Thank you many times over. I own a 2010 GL1800 trike which I bought used years ago. Over the years due to high labor cost I have undertaken projects that I though I'd never attempt in reference to GOldwing repair. Will these relays connect to the GL1800 relay footprint? If so I would like to order some of them from you . Please let me know how to order if this application will connect to the GL1800 .
What is the name of that screwdriver that you used that you bent it to 90 degrees? Also where would I find one? Could you send a link also to the sell page for the relays that you sell on Goldwingdocs?
That bendable ratchet screwdriver came from NAPA...it was one of my favorite tools, but unfortunately it broke a couple of years ago, and I have been completely unable to find a replacement. Here's the relay link: goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
Thanks for the video! My 2012 gl1800 starter is not working, but it does click on the left side where the relay is. I can jump start it by popping the clutch in first gear, but not jumper cables and the battery is charged. Is it most likely the relay?
In my 1988 Goldwing 1500, i saw 2 solenoids: one to the left of the battery, and other one to the right of the battery. I think that solenoid is to the right, and relay is to the left. Please explain to me. Dr.Martins
There are two large-current relays on the right side. One is near the battery, and one is lower down. Those are the starter relays. Check out this post: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=66354
I’ve had a few GL1500s and have never had a regular relay go out on any of them. A couple of my bikes had over 300,000 miles on them. Of course I have had the starter relay go out a few times which is why I always carry spares and no I do not buy them from Honda. I buy them off of Amazon really cheap!
You're one of the lucky ones then! I've had two relays my GL1500 fail in the last 5 years. And the fact that we've sold literally thousands of these relays (and we continue to sell hundreds every month) says that they can, and do fail fairly often.
All but one. There are eight relays. One is a NC relay, it stands out because it is blue (all the others are black). So you would need to order 7 relays to replace them all. (the blue NC relay rarely fails, because, well, it's a NC relay). :)
Where can I buy the relays you mention please ? I am in Tasmania Australia and have a 1800 cc 2005 reverse trike need urgently to see why my bike won’t start I have had battery double checked
I am curious, if you add a couple of led lights, phone chargers, trailer hook up, do you need to use a relay or can you hook up directly to the battery. i saw a video where a guy added fuse box on his bike and the hook up he bought came already connected to a relay. tx again. Love all your vids.
@@GoldwingDocs trying to determine if a 30/40 amp relay can power several instruments such as phone charger, trailer hook up with led lights. Sorry to bother you with those questions but relays are new to me and I am still trying to figure them out. Tx
Are they labeled with numbers? My taillights work fine but along with the gauges and "OD" light the "Reverse" light and function is out.? All relay 3 related? As I look at the relay how can you tell if one is "blown" or "caput" or "dead" or no longer operative?
Bought Scott’s relay, replaced relay #3 (top row, far right as looking at it from left side of bike), followed his video instructions - fixed everything that wasn’t working. So happy!
I have a 2003 GL 1800 that ran fine all summer, fall and early winter. Just before Christmas I tried to take it out since the weather was nice, which was only a couple of weeks after the last ride, and NOTHING. I am new to this and I know the battery was replaced when I bought it in June. When I turn the key on, it lights up, radio comes on, but still nothing. I will point out that when I hit the starter, the headlight dims. I haven't checked the relays and/or fuses, but that is my next step in my opinion. Have you seen this situation before? If so, what was the solution?
What brand running lights are you using what size and how bright are they im looking for a good pair that will really light up the road when im traveling down the country roads i want to see that deer long before it to late
Often your first indication that a relay has failed is when the circuit it controls stops working. Occasionally they will fail "stuck on", in which case you can give it a sharp rap with something hard to temporarily unstick it. All of the relays in the GL1500 except one are of the same type, and can be replaced with our relay!
A relay is a magnetically operated switch. So you can test the resistance between the output terminals when it is not powered (should be infinite) and when it is powered (should be close to zero). That said, many relays fail by sticking on, and they do so intermittently. Vibration will often break them loose, until they finally fail in a way that they will never recover.
hi there i have a 2002 1800 abs and lost speedometer,tachometer- what relay do i replace? I check fuses and think the relay g8ms-h34 under front left side compartment might be the culprit?
Our motorcycles don't have solenoids, they have starter relays - but you'd have to specify which bike you're talking about. Perhaps post a picture on the GoldwingDocs forum for us: goldwingdocs.com/forum
I have a 02 goldwing. The turn signals stoped working but the hazards are still working. I got another controller but that didn’t fix the problem and not the bike won’t start. Any suggestions would help thanks.
The cruise control on my GL1500 does not turn on when I push the button and it does not function when on the road. This just quit. Could a relay be the problem? all fuses are good. Thecruise light comes on when I turn the key on and it runs a self check.
Yes this is Kenneth Maddox I've got a problem with my Goldwing the light will come on when it's in revert for reverse but it does not come on when it's in neutral what is causing the problem I put a new reverse neutral switch on it and it still ain't working
Hi Scott, I hope you can help me. I have a 99 Valkyrie and it won’t start and I had my starter relay tested and it’s good but my headlight doesn’t come on when I turn the key on and someone told me it might be the starter button ? And my fuses are good. Thanks
Hello Scott, great videos you do. I have a question for you. So I ordered new 40amp relays from your store to replace all of the 20amp relays on the left side of the bike. Would I also replace the 10am relay w the new 40amp?
Wow, great video Scott! I have a 03 GL1800 and was wondering if your relays will work on it. I am also having an issue with my right high beam. I replaced the bulb then checked the old one and its good. Can that be a relay problem? The left high beam is fine. Any advice would be appreciated.
The GL1800 uses completely different (and much cheaper!) relays than the GL1500. It has two: a low beam relay and a high beam relay. If one headlight is working and the other is not, then the problem is not your relay.
No, the blue relay is a different type of relay. All the black relays are "normally open" relays. The blue one is a "normally closed", so they aren't interchangeable. The blue one RARELY fails, as it's not switching the loads that the others are.
Are all of the relays the same? If I buy one or two of your relays will that cover all of those relays under that cover? Are there others that are important to have on board that are not within that cover?.
They are all the same except for one, which you can identify because it's blue. The blue one is a normally closed relay, unlike the others, and rarely fails. All of the other relays are interchangeable.
Have GL1200. Is there a way to use a relay to activate fuel pump using just ignition switch, instead of the start button? Hoping that would help starting after long periods the bike is idle.
Hi Scott. Do you have a video on TESTING RELAYS? I'm beginning to think maybe the starter did stick at some point But released. I have my LAtrical Alternator sent out to be rebuilt. Hopefully It will be back soon. My Battery has been on my bench for 2 weeks holding at 12.3. I would think it would have gotten lower if it was bad. It was 12.7 when I took it off the charger. Then dropped down to 12.3. But is holding there. Autozone said It's still good.
When the contacts on high-current relays begin to wear out, your first indication is usually when they stick on. Sometimes rapping the relay with something hard (screwdriver handle, for instance) will free it, but it's only a matter of time before it happens again...and eventually it will stick permanently. If a relay has stuck on, even once, I know it's time to replace that relay, because it's on the way out. This most often happens to the high-current starter relays (starter relays A and B on the GL1500).
I have 2001 GL1800, and the alternator has been blowing 3 times in the last 1.5 week. Do you know what’s going on? The only thing is my speakers done have any sounds, does that have anything to do with it ?
Don't know if you'll answer but my curb lights,side stand lights,oil light,fuel,side lights won't come on after I have serviced my 1500se,would or could it be relay switch as I've checked all fuses thanks Andy Hesketh,uk
Just realised i cannot order as unfortunately i live in the uk. My country sucks, i’m embarrassed to be British. However i love this Goldwing Docs channel and will always remain subscribed. Regards, Steve. (uk)
Hi Scott, I have a 1984 Goldwing and sometimes while I'm out riding, like for a half an hour or longer, and sometimes (not all the time) when I shut the bike off it does not want to start again. I turn the key on and there is nothing, no headlights no dashlights nothing. And if I leave the key on, anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, it will come back to life and fire back up. But only if they leave the key on. Do you think it is one of the relays getting overheated? And if it is how do I tell which one? Thanks
Hi - I have a 2009 GOLD WING GL1800 Audio Comfort Navi XM, that has been sitting (garaged) for a few years. I just installed a brand new battery. I went to start it. There is plenty of juice, it turns over great, it just does not start. Any suggestions?
1994 GW ran battery dead,tried to jump start off charger now cruise,turn signal auto off doesn't work dash digital display and air pump not working did eventually start checked fuses all seem to be good, 12.2v not running 14.2 running, would you say relays? And if so which ones? Thanks
In a lot of cases, yes. There are differences (valves, carburetors, U-joint), apart from the obvious differences, but there are a LOT of parts and systems in common.
Where is the started relay for a 94 honda goldwing 1500? On my relay cover, there is nothing that says starter or ign. I googled it and it does not show which one it is. Thanks.
The starter relays (there are two - starter relay A and starter relay B) are not in that relay case, they are on the other side of the bike, near the battery. Here's a topic discussing them, with pictures showing their location: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=181283#p181283
I have a 2006 Goldwing Trike GL1800. I had backing problem, where it would only back up about 6 in at a time. Then it stopped backing up. then when i go to start it, it just clicks once. Dose that sound like a relay to you? If where would it be on a trike? My battery is where your fuse box is.
Hello my name is Emmett new subscriber after watching this video but I have a question you did not say.which relay.you were replacing on your 1500 Goldwing...?? And question 2..what about relays for the GL 1800 GOLDWINGS..?? AND LASTLY..WHAT MAKES THESE RELAYS BETTER THEN THE RELAYS YOU ARE REPLACING .???..AND I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE my friend...NOV /2/2020
All of the relays save for one are exactly the same on the GL1500, so they are interchangeable. The GL1800 uses completely different relays, not compatible with these. The relays we sell are rated at twice the amps (40 amps vs 20 amps) than the OEM relays.
Help! Reverse, gas gauge, temp gauge not working. Tried replacing a fuse #8 I believe. Blew the fuse several times. It was the right size one. Could this be a relay problem if so which one and where do I get some. Thanks for any help.
Hi Scott, I'm a member of the goldwing docs forum, and my position lights aren't working. Is it possible that the R3 relay has failed that will prevent the position lights from working, but everything else connected to that relay works?
@@GoldwingDocs yes I thought that, I replaced the bulbs and still no dice. I'll check power is going to it and start from there. Thank you for the forum :)
On the 1500 all the relays are the same except for the blue one, which is a NC (normally closed) instead of an NO (normally open) relay. You can use our replacement relays for all except that blue one.
My 2012 GL1800 won't start after battery was hooked up backwards by mistake but only for less than 5seconds, turns over but won't start and lost all my lights. Checked the fuses any idea for what to check.Mileage is 22,500
Lost all power to bike. Replaced main fuse when buying fuse he said takes two well where do they both go i found one by battery n replaced but still no power im first time bike owner n lost any one with a clue id appreciate the help
Dont have a goldwing but im glad people like you are out here helping other bike owners
Thank you. My brother and i are empty nesters and needed a hobby to give us something to do and a reason to hang out. He got a 94 goldwing and within a week i got a 92. I dont even have a permit yet. I just found your channel and know ou are going to be the best resource for us. This channel has me even more excited about my bike.
Scott you're the man with the Goldwing plan!!!! Thanks!
First time viewer. Very helpful information, thoroughly delivered. A small tip for those that have yet to install straps (as you have) to avoid losing the side covers. When 1up, raise the passenger foot boards. If a cover does come loose it makes it harder for it to escape. Not an issue when 2up. I look forward to visiting Goldwing Docs.
Excellent. I was going to have to wait 6 weeks for a garage appointment and have the bike towed. You just solved my problem
What was your problem that you were going to a mechanic for? Was it cranking but not turning over?
Hey Scott I just want you to know, I received the 2 relays I ordered from you! Just wanted to say thanks, you saved me quite a bit of money. 👍
Fantastic! Glad to help.
Hi Scott,
I want to thank you for this video. I currently am dealing with the relay/ silonoid that deals with the starter. I started and moved the bike out from the garage , when I turned off the key the engine stopped but the starter did not, I could not get the starter to stop by turning on /off the key & kill switch so I kicked the bike in gear , that finally did it after lunching forward another 10 or so feet.
I went to my goldwing docs searching & sent an email so I've purchased both silonoids & decided to have the starter over hauled/ rewired as I no longer trust it for continued use. Thx for the info both by emails & videos .
I also am going to order all new replacement relays as I had my 1500 for 13 years now with no issues so far but after watching this video I think it's time to replace them.
Also, one last thing, the " straps " that you have on your bike that keeps the side covers from being lost , where can I find those ? Or what do I use to make my own ?
Thx for the goldwing doc videos, I go back to them often.
Dennis S. Harrisonville, Mo.
Hi Scott - Enjoy your website and the UA-cam channel! You've probably helped out more people than half the mechanics in my state over the years. I just ordered a couple relays, one of which I hope to use as a replacement for the fuel pump on my old GL1200. I know it's not OEM, but those are running close to $100 now - if you can even get one. (I think Randakk's still has them.) For the price difference I think I can do a bit of creative engineering and relocate the thing so it's not such a pain to get to. Thanks!!
Great video Scott. Totally appreciate the way you teach! I just acquired a 2007 Goldwing trike and will check out more of your videos as I learn this thing. You just won a new subscriber here!
Just bought 3 from GWDs...thank you. If youre ever in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin give us a shout...you'd be a blast to ride with and learn from.
Seat back? I don't. Wish I did! Thanks for the video. Having a tough time getting a stoplight relay out and didn't want to miss anything!
I have a video for the 84 GW owners on where the engineers hid it and how to relocate it. Great video on the relays.
Dear Toby,
Hope you're feline good. Just to let you know that I hit subscribe and ordered a couple of relays for my GL1500SE Trike. I'm learning quite a lot before my Goldwing has actually got to me. It's being transported from the bottom of the country, hopefully just in time for me to acclimatise, and then head off touring... to the bottom of the country and back again. I'm sure that it will be purring like a kitten all the way.
hahah, Toby thanks you! :)
your videos are the best, I have seen. Clear easy to understand, thank you
Thanks for your kind words, Daniel!
Will be buying a 1996 soon from extended family. Love your channel and expect I will be buying some relays soon.
Good day, Scott
On the 2 (4) seat bolts I put a nut on them and ground a small point down below the minor diameter on my bench grinder, that worked out very well. Yes, take the nut off first to chase the threads.
You are one hell of a teacher, thank you so much!
Johnny Boy
Thanks John! You can actually buy those bolts made with a taper in place, which is a great idea for those frustrating things: www.amazon.com/Show-Chrome-Accessories-52-843-Tapered/dp/B00TV6SCQS/ref=sr_1_2?tag=goldwingdocs-20
Not stupid the straps for the side covers, you are also right for the engagement of the bolts.. by hand first. 🙂
Just bought a 90 GL1500SE, learning as I go. It needs some work. I'll be checking out the relays tomorrow, already joined your site. Think I'll take your advice and order some relays from you.
I just subscibed to this channel and let me say these are the very best Goldwing videos I've found, love the foram as-well!! keep up the good work.
Thank you Rembert!!
Hi Scott, you are right about carrying extra relays, two years ago I was stuck on a junction road somewhere in Wyoming so dont forget the extra relays and fuses, by the way I watched your how to comments on spraying contact cleaner on the buttons for the cruise control and the cruise on switch and it didnt work for me , any other suggestions. Thank you for the videos
River city wings
Thank you for another awesome video! I have a 2004 GL1800 and would like to know how to test the tail light relay? I blow a 15amp mini fuse everytime I turn on the ignition. I don't have tail lights and the gauges don't work as well. Thanks again, appreciate it. 👍
Great job taught me another great job I'll be sending for 2 or 3 relays 👏 👍 👌 🙌 ahead of the problem 😀
Greetings,
As always another fantastic detailed video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸
Keep producing more videos.
job well done as Scott always does, have translated into Hebrew the explanation part .for the mechanics in our workshop , for learning purpose , its the clearest way of explaining the reason for relay"s i have yet seen THANKS SCOTT
Steve Taylor if need be, you can have them sent to my US address and i will send them on to you !!
Great informative videos! New subscriber here. I’m acquiring my first GoldWing in a few weeks. It was my father in law’s, getting it from his estate. It’s a 2002 GL 1800. The GoldWing has been my dream bike ever since the 80’s. I’ve had 3 other motorcycles over the years, just never had one that big and heavy. (My biggest was a 750 Yamaha) I’m hoping to ride it from Phoenix area to our place in northern Indiana this summer. I’m going through your videos on here and learning all you GoldWing specific tips. Thanks!!
Same thing except after selling my Yamaha 1100 to buy my house 30 years ago, I just bought my Goldwing 2 months ago.
I have 2000 Gold Wing 1500 SE. My kick stand light, trunk running lights, temperature and gas guage needles just quit working. I have checked my fuses they are all OK. Do I needle to check my relays ? Trunk brake lights still work.
Highly likely that your relay #3 has failed, it controls ALL of those things.
@@GoldwingDocs thank you I'll check those relays and likely change out all of them.
@@GoldwingDocs thank you it was relay number 3.
There are solid state relays with no moving parts . I have SSR’s that are from the 1970’s and they still work. SSRs are great for controlling high current loads ; back in the 1980’s in electronics school , I made a circuit that flashes a 120 volt light bulb at 15 hertz which consisted of a 555 timer set to a stable mode with a 50% duty cycle connected to the front end of the solid state relay ; they light bulb switched on and off with no issue . I have SSRs that can handle 10 amp loads , 120, 240 volt , 12, 24 volt … they are available all over the net .
I think you do an excellent job! Thank you!!!!!!!!
Thank You for so much info.I have a 1990 wing with a fuel problem, I thought the pump was bad ,pulled fuel line from pump and no fuel flow,tank is full, HELP
What was the push to talk button for? I am going to be purchasing j&m wired headsets will I need one of them or will my passenger be able to talk to me at will? Thank you very much for your videos they sure are helpful
The push to talk switch is to allow the passenger to transmit on the CB. You don't need it to just talk over the intercom.
Enjoy the video Scott I've got a 97 1500 should a person change one of them like a maintenance
Many people do buy a full set of 7 relays and change them all out: they are mechanical devices, subject to a lot of vibration, and they do wear out. Most people have one fail, then they will buy 3 or 4: one to replace the failed one, and a few to have or carry as backups.
@@GoldwingDocs Thank you I will order some first thing Monday morning
Great video Scott! When you were explaining the relays, you mentioned that there is "another bigger relay" that is in the starting system. I have bought a couple of relays from you, but I believe they are the smaller ones. What is the description of the "bigger" relay and should I have one of them too?
The two relays that run the starter are on the other side of the bike, and are known as starter relay A and starter relay B. They are different from one another, and while you could potentially carry spares, that's going to take up a bit of space, as they are much larger. You can see pictures and locations of them here: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6637#p29355
Nice finding this I haven't read about this happening on GW Doc yet, but a member for sure as i just bought a 97 the same color as yours, Most I looked at were black or dark green and both disappear from your site to easy, so I guess I need to order a few to get ready for one going , guess I need to check the manual to see what runs what
Just ordered a few. Just in case. I did have a starter relay just burn out on me on my 2000 Honda Goldwing. GL1500 Aspencade. It was showing signs off issues when I push on the starter button and nothing would happen then after a few attempts it started. Next to the battery is a round looking relay with a fuse box attached to it. two large nuts on top connect positive red wires. The fuse box has a burn mark on it. I have lost all power to lights, instrument panel, radio, cb and everything under the sun. I put a screw driver across the two terminals and the bike kicks over but wont start. I found the relay on amazon I ordered. Not sure if you have a video on this issue but I hear its common with older bikes. I called several shops in south west michigan in attempts to have them look at my bike and no one will touch a bike older than 15 years old. Love this bike but starting to regret buying a bike no one is willing to work on and no replacement parts are available after market for it.
Do you still selling those relays? I Wonder to by all 6.?
In relation to the current breakdown (motorcycle no longer starts with blackout)
The 20A relays, I reversed some to see, it doesn't change anything, so I concluded that the failure didn't come from there.
Thank you for the video. Just so I understand, does this help if you have a Goldwing that cranks but won’t turn over? I’m trying to go from easiest to hardest as I diagnose this new to me Goldwing. Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
Great videos I have a gl 1800 high beam lights work both low beams stop at same time any idea . Thanks mike
Thank you many times over. I own a 2010 GL1800 trike which I bought used years ago. Over the years due to high labor cost I have undertaken projects that I though I'd never attempt in reference to GOldwing repair. Will these relays connect to the GL1800 relay footprint? If so I would like to order some of them from you . Please let me know how to order if this application will connect to the GL1800 .
What is the name of that screwdriver that you used that you bent it to 90 degrees? Also where would I find one? Could you send a link also to the sell page for the relays that you sell on Goldwingdocs?
That bendable ratchet screwdriver came from NAPA...it was one of my favorite tools, but unfortunately it broke a couple of years ago, and I have been completely unable to find a replacement.
Here's the relay link: goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
Hi Scott, nice tip, do you have any good tips on removing the rear wheel and tire?
For the wheel: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=11395
For the tire: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=43239
@@GoldwingDocs Hi Scott, thanks for your reply, but I have found a better way I will share with you if you are interested.
Thanks for the video! My 2012 gl1800 starter is not working, but it does click on the left side where the relay is. I can jump start it by popping the clutch in first gear, but not jumper cables and the battery is charged. Is it most likely the relay?
In my 1988 Goldwing 1500, i saw 2 solenoids: one to the left of the battery, and other one to the right of the battery. I think that solenoid is to the right, and relay is to the left. Please explain to me. Dr.Martins
There are two large-current relays on the right side. One is near the battery, and one is lower down. Those are the starter relays. Check out this post: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=66354
Super video. I'm gonna order some of those relays ASAP!!! Thanks much!
Do you have a video were you show how to test a relay?
I’ve had a few GL1500s and have never had a regular relay go out on any of them. A couple of my bikes had over 300,000 miles on them. Of course I have had the starter relay go out a few times which is why I always carry spares and no I do not buy them from Honda. I buy them off of Amazon really cheap!
You're one of the lucky ones then! I've had two relays my GL1500 fail in the last 5 years. And the fact that we've sold literally thousands of these relays (and we continue to sell hundreds every month) says that they can, and do fail fairly often.
All relays are the same? I would like to replace all of them in my 1990 GW. Please let me know so I can order them from GWDocs.
All but one. There are eight relays. One is a NC relay, it stands out because it is blue (all the others are black). So you would need to order 7 relays to replace them all. (the blue NC relay rarely fails, because, well, it's a NC relay). :)
@@GoldwingDocs Thank you I'll place my order for 7 then.
@@GoldwingDocs Scott, this would have been really important to include in your video, perhaps you can edit it. 🙂
@@GoldwingDocsSir, does the 2008 GL1800 use these relays? Thx in advance!
Thanks for the info. Great video. Although I own a Valkyrie, good information. God Bless
I'm learning 😊 ❤ .
Like the video, hate the music-on-hold that you're having to talk over.
Where can I buy the relays you mention please ? I am in Tasmania Australia and have a 1800 cc 2005 reverse trike need urgently to see why my bike won’t start I have had battery double checked
Right here: goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
@@GoldwingDocs thanks so much How much each please as I have to arrange to send money to you
Also the mini battery maintenance charger Need one badly
I am curious, if you add a couple of led lights, phone chargers, trailer hook up, do you need to use a relay or can you hook up directly to the battery. i saw a video where a guy added fuse box on his bike and the hook up he bought came already connected to a relay. tx again. Love all your vids.
Have a look at this article which talks about this exact thing: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=10890
@@GoldwingDocs thank you, much appreciated.
@@GoldwingDocs trying to determine if a 30/40 amp relay can power several instruments such as phone charger, trailer hook up with led lights. Sorry to bother you with those questions but relays are new to me and I am still trying to figure them out. Tx
Nice! Would the “OD” light, gas gauge and temp gauge happen to be on a relay? They all quite simultaneously.
Indeed they are, they all share fuse 8 and relay 3, along with the taillights.
@@GoldwingDocs Thank you for such a rapid and helpful reply!
I need some then! How to order?
Right here: goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
Are they labeled with numbers? My taillights work fine but along with the gauges and "OD" light the "Reverse" light and function is out.? All relay 3 related? As I look at the relay how can you tell if one is "blown" or "caput" or "dead" or no longer operative?
Bought Scott’s relay, replaced relay #3 (top row, far right as looking at it from left side of bike), followed his video instructions - fixed everything that wasn’t working. So happy!
I have a 2003 GL 1800 that ran fine all summer, fall and early winter. Just before Christmas I tried to take it out since the weather was nice, which was only a couple of weeks after the last ride, and NOTHING. I am new to this and I know the battery was replaced when I bought it in June. When I turn the key on, it lights up, radio comes on, but still nothing. I will point out that when I hit the starter, the headlight dims. I haven't checked the relays and/or fuses, but that is my next step in my opinion. Have you seen this situation before? If so, what was the solution?
What brand running lights are you using what size and how bright are they im looking for a good pair that will really light up the road when im traveling down the country roads i want to see that deer long before it to late
Great video, as always
Thanx, One question is there any easy way to tell if a relay is good or not? Also which relays would you recommend replacing?
Often your first indication that a relay has failed is when the circuit it controls stops working. Occasionally they will fail "stuck on", in which case you can give it a sharp rap with something hard to temporarily unstick it.
All of the relays in the GL1500 except one are of the same type, and can be replaced with our relay!
Great video. Just what I needed, but have a lingering question. how can I test the relay to determine if it has failed?
A relay is a magnetically operated switch. So you can test the resistance between the output terminals when it is not powered (should be infinite) and when it is powered (should be close to zero).
That said, many relays fail by sticking on, and they do so intermittently. Vibration will often break them loose, until they finally fail in a way that they will never recover.
@@GoldwingDocs Thanks for the quick response. I'm trying to diagnose my Goldwing not starting. thanks.
hi there i have a 2002 1800 abs and lost speedometer,tachometer- what relay do i replace? I check fuses and think the relay g8ms-h34 under front left side compartment might be the culprit?
Any video on installation of moto horn on a 2017 gl 1800 navigation, audio system.
U simple r one if the best if not the best .
Are those those two cylinder like on both sides of the batteries Solenoids. Please help
Our motorcycles don't have solenoids, they have starter relays - but you'd have to specify which bike you're talking about. Perhaps post a picture on the GoldwingDocs forum for us: goldwingdocs.com/forum
I have a 02 goldwing. The turn signals stoped working but the hazards are still working. I got another controller but that didn’t fix the problem and not the bike won’t start. Any suggestions would help thanks.
Definitely post this question in the GoldwingDocs GL1800 Forum: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=7
The cruise control on my GL1500 does not turn on when I push the button and it does not function when on the road. This just quit. Could a relay be the problem? all fuses are good. Thecruise light comes on when I turn the key on and it runs a self check.
Yes this is Kenneth Maddox I've got a problem with my Goldwing the light will come on when it's in revert for reverse but it does not come on when it's in neutral what is causing the problem I put a new reverse neutral switch on it and it still ain't working
I don't really know what to do I want to clean all the wires everything the neutral light will not come on no matter what I do
Hi Scott, I hope you can help me. I have a 99 Valkyrie and it won’t start and I had my starter relay tested and it’s good but my headlight doesn’t come on when I turn the key on and someone told me it might be the starter button ? And my fuses are good. Thanks
Do you also sell the blue relay I believe its a 10amp I just bought 5 of the 40amps off your website thanks
Hello Scott, great videos you do. I have a question for you. So I ordered new 40amp relays from your store to replace all of the 20amp relays on the left side of the bike. Would I also replace the 10am relay w the new 40amp?
The blue 10 amp relay is a different type of relay (it's an NC relay) so no, do not replace that one with one of these relays.
Understood. So all the other relays are safe to replace with the 40amp? Or do some need to stay as a 20amp?
@@anthonysteckle You can safely replace them with the 40 amp relays.
Wow, great video Scott! I have a 03 GL1800 and was wondering if your relays will work on it.
I am also having an issue with my right high beam. I replaced the bulb then checked the old one and its good. Can that be a relay problem? The left high beam is fine. Any advice would be appreciated.
The GL1800 uses completely different (and much cheaper!) relays than the GL1500. It has two: a low beam relay and a high beam relay. If one headlight is working and the other is not, then the problem is not your relay.
@@GoldwingDocs Thanks Scott. Guess I have to do some digging through the wiring.
Hi Scott recently received some relays 8 no from you. The existing blue 10 watt can I fit one of yours and if so is the higher wattage an issue. Edcot
No, the blue relay is a different type of relay. All the black relays are "normally open" relays. The blue one is a "normally closed", so they aren't interchangeable. The blue one RARELY fails, as it's not switching the loads that the others are.
Are all of the relays the same? If I buy one or two of your relays will that cover all of those relays under that cover? Are there others that are important to have on board that are not within that cover?.
They are all the same except for one, which you can identify because it's blue. The blue one is a normally closed relay, unlike the others, and rarely fails. All of the other relays are interchangeable.
Can you show replacing relay on 1997 GL1500 Motor Trike conversion? Has no saddle bags to loosen.
About those side cover retention straps? I need some
@GoldwingDocs : Hello,
Thank you for your video.
Is it possible to buy tens relays with delivery in France?
Yes! We ship worldwide! goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
@@GoldwingDocs Thanks for your answer ✌
Hi first time dealer I have a 2015 Honda Goldwing 1800 trike what controls the onboard compressor mine will not work
Have GL1200. Is there a way to use a relay to activate fuel pump using just ignition switch, instead of the start button? Hoping that would help starting after long periods the bike is idle.
Hi Scott. Do you have a video on TESTING RELAYS? I'm beginning to think maybe the starter did stick at some point But released. I have my LAtrical Alternator sent out to be rebuilt. Hopefully It will be back soon. My Battery has been on my bench for 2 weeks holding at 12.3. I would think it would have gotten lower if it was bad. It was 12.7 when I took it off the charger. Then dropped down to 12.3. But is holding there. Autozone said It's still good.
When the contacts on high-current relays begin to wear out, your first indication is usually when they stick on. Sometimes rapping the relay with something hard (screwdriver handle, for instance) will free it, but it's only a matter of time before it happens again...and eventually it will stick permanently.
If a relay has stuck on, even once, I know it's time to replace that relay, because it's on the way out. This most often happens to the high-current starter relays (starter relays A and B on the GL1500).
Relay testers cost less than $20.
I have 2001 GL1800, and the alternator has been blowing 3 times in the last 1.5 week. Do you know what’s going on? The only thing is my speakers done have any sounds, does that have anything to do with it ?
Don't know if you'll answer but my curb lights,side stand lights,oil light,fuel,side lights won't come on after I have serviced my 1500se,would or could it be relay switch as I've checked all fuses thanks Andy Hesketh,uk
Love your videos
This is great advice and information thankyou. Can you give me a link to buy relays from you please ?
Right here: goldwingdocs.com/Store/Goldwing-GL1500-Relay-G8MS-H30.asp
Thankyou very much.
Just realised i cannot order as unfortunately i live in the uk. My country sucks, i’m embarrassed to be British. However i love this Goldwing Docs channel and will always remain subscribed. Regards, Steve. (uk)
@@stephensheridan6332 hi why can’t we order these? I have an 02 wing.. would be good to have spares in my garage.
Hi Scott, I have a 1984 Goldwing and sometimes while I'm out riding, like for a half an hour or longer, and sometimes (not all the time) when I shut the bike off it does not want to start again. I turn the key on and there is nothing, no headlights no dashlights nothing. And if I leave the key on, anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, it will come back to life and fire back up. But only if they leave the key on. Do you think it is one of the relays getting overheated? And if it is how do I tell which one? Thanks
Did you ever find the answer on this same problem
Are all the relays the Same?
All except for one (you'll know which one is different - it's blue, instead of black).
Hi -
I have a 2009 GOLD WING GL1800 Audio Comfort Navi XM, that has been sitting (garaged) for a few years. I just installed a brand new battery. I went to start it. There is plenty of juice, it turns over great, it just does not start.
Any suggestions?
If your bike is cranking, just not turning over, would that still be a reason to get a new relay?
Typically if it's cranking but not starting, the problem is a weak battery.
1994 GW ran battery dead,tried to jump start off charger now cruise,turn signal auto off doesn't work dash digital display and air pump not working did eventually start checked fuses all seem to be good, 12.2v not running 14.2 running, would you say relays? And if so which ones? Thanks
Hii
Where is the relay for the hazard light the 4 blinker mine is not working
Depends on which bike you're talking about!
Anything relating to the GL1500, does that include the Valkyries also??
In a lot of cases, yes. There are differences (valves, carburetors, U-joint), apart from the obvious differences, but there are a LOT of parts and systems in common.
I have a 2006 Goldwing and can't get the cover off the relay box (located under the seat)
Where is the started relay for a 94 honda goldwing 1500? On my relay cover, there is nothing that says starter or ign. I googled it and it does not show which one it is. Thanks.
The starter relays (there are two - starter relay A and starter relay B) are not in that relay case, they are on the other side of the bike, near the battery. Here's a topic discussing them, with pictures showing their location: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=181283#p181283
@@GoldwingDocs So, they are not the same as the other relays? That looks tiny.
@@GoldwingDocs Or are they 2 solenoids? That is what they look like. Nothing to what is on the other side. Thanks.
@@JohnSmith-uy7sv No, they are completely different relays. They are high-current solenoid-type relays with stud and nut terminals on top.
@@GoldwingDocs at 3:00 he shows the starter relay and how to jump it. 😀ua-cam.com/video/cmJn16AxXeo/v-deo.html
I have a 2006 Goldwing Trike GL1800. I had backing problem, where it would only back up about 6 in at a time. Then it stopped backing up. then when i go to start it, it just clicks once. Dose that sound like a relay to you? If where would it be on a trike? My battery is where your fuse box is.
Great advice, specially if you gonna travel out of the country, some other countries don't have that many of this big bikes dealers
Hello my name is Emmett new subscriber after watching this video but I have a question you did not say.which relay.you were replacing on your 1500 Goldwing...??
And question 2..what about relays for the GL
1800 GOLDWINGS..??
AND LASTLY..WHAT MAKES THESE RELAYS BETTER THEN THE RELAYS YOU ARE REPLACING .???..AND I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE my friend...NOV /2/2020
All of the relays save for one are exactly the same on the GL1500, so they are interchangeable.
The GL1800 uses completely different relays, not compatible with these.
The relays we sell are rated at twice the amps (40 amps vs 20 amps) than the OEM relays.
Help! Reverse, gas gauge, temp gauge not working. Tried replacing a fuse #8 I believe. Blew the fuse several times. It was the right size one. Could this be a relay problem if so which one and where do I get some. Thanks for any help.
Btw it’s a 99 1500
@@raywalsh8807 I have the same issue on my 98 GL1500...did you figure it out?
@@xs1000kaw it was a short that kept blowing the fuse. Honestly I don’t remember where. Good Luck Steve.
Hi Scott, I'm a member of the goldwing docs forum, and my position lights aren't working. Is it possible that the R3 relay has failed that will prevent the position lights from working, but everything else connected to that relay works?
More likely the position lights have burned out - it happens a lot with the original incandescent bulbs.
@@GoldwingDocs yes I thought that, I replaced the bulbs and still no dice. I'll check power is going to it and start from there. Thank you for the forum :)
Hi Hey duck you still have the relay available ship to Canada can you
Are all the relays the same? I see different amperages, can we replace them with the generic ones?
On the 1500 all the relays are the same except for the blue one, which is a NC (normally closed) instead of an NO (normally open) relay. You can use our replacement relays for all except that blue one.
My 2012 GL1800 won't start after battery was hooked up backwards by mistake but only for less than 5seconds, turns over but won't start and lost all my lights. Checked the fuses any idea for what to check.Mileage is 22,500
How do I inquire about retaining straps for my 2001 gl1800?
I would post on the GL1800 forum and see if anyone has a recommendation: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=7
Lost all power to bike. Replaced main fuse when buying fuse he said takes two well where do they both go i found one by battery n replaced but still no power im first time bike owner n lost any one with a clue id appreciate the help
84 hold gold wing 1200
I love your Goldwingdoc bulletin your send us monthly (quarterly?). Are you ever gonna do videos on the 1800’s?
I've been trying to keep the videos more generic to most models, but yes, I likely will.
Well done 👍