I converted my 2010 M6 Coupe to Manual about 2 months ago and love it even more now! I did about 1k miles since swap, and I've been enjoying every single mile. I'm not SMG hater and it's brilliant tranny when it works. Right at 75k miles, PLCD failed, and since I had to pull it anyway, it was the perfect time for conversion. It was my 2nd conversion, and it was a relatively easy one.
Just got one for less than 15k. Literally traded in a subaru and left with money. As long as you set aside some cash for expensive preventative maintenance and repairs they're a steal.
Since April they can be extremely reliable cars if you buy them from the right person. Never had 1 issue I would trust the car on a drive from SF to NY
Couldn't agree more. They awesome cars if you look after them. We need to change the general perception of reliability. We have had the company E60 m5 for just over 10 years now and we will do a video on it shortly. Its goes against everything the internet makes people believe about the platform. Cheers many more happy miles in your beast!
Zero To 60 yes most people read forums and they get scared into buying these cars. Honestly it works out great because it makes the prices of these cars plummet and they can become attainable for 25 year olds like myself. I have never had 1 issue with my car it is very reliable and if it breaks I will fix it. These cars are engineered deeply they are not poorly built by any means
That's it. I swear all the bearing failures have been caused by people either using the wrong oil, or over revving them when they are cold. And on the same note, the bearings are cheap, should be something people just do for maintenance. I think its amazing how well these motors have lasted. 500hp naturally aspirated 5.0l, its going to be on the great engines in 50 years time.
I love my m6 I have had it 4yrs now weekend driver..i have done bolton's along with an ESS supercharger kit..ohhh man does she scream...so much fun to drive..get alot of attention
@@ZeroTo60Tubedailying a 2007 m6 it ..bought it at 50 k miles. Annual maintenance, and a stuck thermostat is pretty much all the issues I have had so far. Beauty of a car. I believe the best way to drive it shift it into manual rather than use the jerky Auto mode.
I’ve been dailying one for almost a year now and it’s cost me around 3k in various maintenance… I’ve also put about 30k miles on it, well worth the money!
Had my e63 M6 for three years now. It has cost me a lot of money but honestly it's so good I don't ever feel like it's wasted. I've owned full blown race cars that are faster than it but they never give me the same amount of joy every time I start it up.
Anything performance orientated is going to need to be maintained. The use and fun you get out of a S85 means at least it’s money we’ll spent. Do ever get tempted to sell it or upgrade to the new V8 turbo m6?
Love the E63 M6 and E60 M5! Definitely get the rod bearings replaced before 100,000 miles and change the oil every 3,000 miles! Do that and reliability isn’t THAT bad lol. That V10 engine just sounds SOOOOOO GOOD!!!
It's a shame and i get that it all comes down to environmental impact but this style of gas guzzling engine is just magnificent. Even the e92 M3 we just tested feels so alive compared to modern turbo engines.
Those who still has these model and years..KEEP YOUR CAR!! I am still getting compliments, especially when you detail and shine your shit, dont let these newer models intimidate you, i have people who works for bmw and they tell me , the newer cars are nice, but SOME arent manufactured in Germany, and therefore have mechanical issues, dont get me wrong, they're nice cars, but our models is one of the outstanding years, and still an eye catcher..@ the end of the day were all still bmw family....with all do respect.....
M6 most underrated bargain basement super car out there today. UK price's 9k starting price for rough early car to 20k for the last 2010 model. The later cars have modern ICE as well. SMG Gearbox is it's weak point and it's strong point. As an auto box it's terrible so drive it in manual use the paddles ease off gas between changes to take pressure off clutch. In M mode you can actually feel the car change. I have fitted exhaust cutouts on mine and it sounds like a 90's F1 car. Buy as late as possible with low as possible miles. Preferably one that has had the gearbox and clutch already changed so you don't take the 3k hit.
Good advice.. and even better purchase! I like the idea of the cut outs too. Semi-quiet when you need the comfort, to full F1 spec when you want to let the V10 scream!
Great video! I own a pair of '10 M6 coupes. These cars are absolute beasts and not intended for the novice driver. The E63/64 M6 was not available in the US until the 2006 model rolled out. An '06-07 goes for less than $20k here. For $27-30k, you can buy a relatively low mileage 09-10 model which are the most desirable since they have the final upgrades such as the better iDrive and display screen ('10 model), and most mechanical issues were ironed out by then. If you're in the market for one, I would recommend buying nothing older than an '08 which is when the year of the LCI facelift. Rod bearings, vanos solenoids, and throttle actuators remain the costliest preventive maintenance items. But given the point you made about what other car can you own with this much raw power and performance, and street presence for the money, there is simply no other comparison. You will not find another 500hp car for under $30k that looks and performs like the E63/64 M6.
Digging up a grave. There's literally no performance difference between the pre - LCI and post - LCI models. Especially since both come with the crippled US SMG programming that should be switched over to Eurospec anyway.
@@19hundoc47 It doesn't have the street presence of an E63 M6, there are dime a dozen Corvettes on the roads. You can drive an entire year or two in any major US city and not see one of these in the wild. My post was You will not find another 500hp car for under $30k that LOOKS and performs like the E63/64 M6
Marvellous car... have had mine for 6 years now and I love it... My wife sat in the rear seat all the way from Sweden down to the Nürburgring... a solid 1000 km ride... to allow my son to sit in the front seat next to me...
I have a 2010 M6 space grey with 55,000 miles mint condition. I bought it at 32,000 miles for $32,000. I change the oil every 5,000 miles, runs perfectly.
I remember when i saw a black one in 2008 when we were visiting our family in iran. I was a kid but damn I still remember that car sounded very special and I thought my mate was lying to me when he said it has a V10!!! Oh btw 335i convertibles are now p plate legal, im stuck between golf 6 R and 335i for now
J B My mate bought one and he already got couple issues like water pump and waste gate rattle!!! That really turned me off from 335i, then I looked at 328i f30 since my budget is 20k and after some research I’ve found out that they have timing chain issues which costs big $$ to fix... since then I tested drove couple of cars like 2013 Accord V6 ( definitely a sleeper ) And 2009 370gt coupe ( not legal ) I really need something fun with 4 seats for around 20k
In case anyone's been paying attention, these E63/64 M6's are finally creeping up in value, as are almost all used cars. They were going for mid $20-30k range, now a well sorted 2010 goes for $35-40k which is still not too bad in today's wild west used car market. However with that said, the inventory on these cars is much, much more limited than where it was a year or two ago. Back then, you'd regularly see anywhere from 10-20 2010 (final production year) M6 coupes listed on Cargurus. Today, less than a handful. I counted just one listed today. If properly maintained, the analog look and feel of these V10 beasts is like nothing else out there. You are so immersed and involved as a driver, when driving in manual mode. Grab one while you still can, they won't be around for sale much longer at these prices.
I've had my 07 m6 closing on 4 years. I've put 30k miles on and have taken on road trips across the U.S. with 0 issues. The car is now at 110k miles and I have only had to address one trans issue. Other than that only oil changes, brakes, etc.. I daily drive her and us at Beemerfam are going to put her up for someone to purchase soon. The E63 M6 is gold, especially with a good exhaust and tune.
We're so happy hearing all these good stories about them. Refreshing after so much horror making the rounds online. We hope you get to enjoy her properly until you sell it. Drive safe!!!
I've had my 2007 M6 convertible for 8 years now, just hitting 29,000 miles. I've only had to do fluids, filters, and tires. Always at the dealer. Great car and the whiney revs never get old...
Ohhh man!!! A 6 speed would be amazing. We never got the manuals in Australia, such a shame. How many miles are on yours? Also the SMGs are prone to need a clutch around 60-100k miles. What are the manual clutches like for wear?
Zero To 60 I think it all depends on riding style My M6 has 90 000 oginal clutch. I rev matching every downshift, no problem with wear so far. Btw my other car Audi allroad also 6sp has 192 000 miles on original cluch as well lol
That's what we found, which has been a big reason for making a video on them. So many youtuber, go the click back fear route and an owner of an S85 for over 10 years now. It's really been quite good.
I have my 2007 E63 M6 9 years now, I bought it in Glasgow Scotland and imported it into Ireland there are less than 20 of them here as they were crazy expensive when they were new. I never drove my car on a daily basis so just flicked over to 42,000 kilometers. I have 2 other ///M’s a ‘98 M3 EVO 2 and a 2018 F80 M3 Competition but this car is my favorite car of all time ! My one drives like a new car I love it ! Despite the low mileage my DSC pump failed twice on me and I had to replace my battery twice ! I have Carly connected car so I was able to register the battery myself.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Apologies for the late reply, that DSC pump is an engineering flaw, I sent my pump to ECUtesting.com in the UK and they have a fix for this.They give a lifetime warranty with the repair so I got it repaired by them again.3 years on and no issues thankfully.
Great review guys! I have a 2008. 6 speed. No issues. I will admit it is low mileage as it is put away for the winter here in Canada. However, the car has been outstanding in both performance and reliability. You got it spot on, it is something very special.
They are such an amazing piece of BMW history. The S85s might not match the current generation engines for power on paper, they certain feel so much more special to drive. What are you plans with your one? Do you see yourself keeping it forever?
Zero To 60 I have no plans to part with this car. I enjoy driving it too much. I agree with you in that I feel in time this car will have a special place in BMW history with the low numbers, the V10 and the overall feel. It has to be driven to be truly appreciated. A classic in the making.
I own a 2007 M6 E63 Coupe as a daily driver. Phenomenal piece of machinery. I smile knowing it Is sitting in my driveway waiting for me. I make excuses to go somewhere just to drive it. And I damn near nut my paints when I push it to redline. No regrets! Best feeling on earth!
oooh , listen to that thing past 4000 rpm. Started one shortly after they had been launched many years back and it sounded just like this on tick over.
Original owner of 2007 e64. 67k miles, and I have driven it all across the southern US. 19.2 mpg on interstate at 70-80 mph. I have replaced the voltage regulator ( the dealer couldn't figure out what was wrong even though I told him it seemed like a voltage regulator due to the weird behavior when it occurred. He replaced a slew of sensors and crap $8k before I lost my cool and made him replace the damn voltage regulator a $200 part. FIXED!), I also had an oil cooler leak that was replaced. Other than that, 3 sets of tires, (4th pending), batteries, oil, filters, etc. I guess the bearings and plugs are due now. I'll probably do them myself along with throttle actuator gears. Suspension looks good. No leaks! My only tear is the heavy depreciation. The damn thing cost me over $120k with tax way back when. I think I will keep it until it appeciates!😂
I have the 2008 E64 Convertible, 6 speed manul version, and with the Heads Up Display. Talk about how connected you can become with you car being a manual. Only had a coil pack go bad and the front turn signals go bad. Oh, and the infamous radio getting wet issue. I do plan to do a schedule lower bearing change based on age and wear. But these truly are incredible machines for their current Fair Market Value.
Have you heard about the parable of the man who spent every penny he made and even went into severe crippling debt buying and keeping up with the maintenance of his e60 m5? Yes he worked 70 hours weeks in a hot factory breaking down his body day by day like a whip with pounding sounds of forklift beeps repetitively embedded into his head. All to keep up paying for the car at the end of the week he had nothing. Even had to spend 20$ a week on food because that’s all he could afford food also never bought a house couldn’t afford that had to sleep in the m5. What a life he lived. I could tell you even more
They are really a special, last of a die-ing breed of European bruisers. Hold on to it for as long as you can, they are gonna surely start jumping up in value soon.
What was the pain with the battery? We did a battery on our M5 recently and it wasn’t too expensive, mind we do have the scan tool to do a battery reset.
@@ZeroTo60Tube it's low currently and causing a few warning lights to come and go. It's 221 usd for the battery itself, 600 to have a dealer install it. I found a shop that will register the battery for 30 dollars though. Just haven't done it yet.
I do not have a daily only because I live in New York but after April I do have her until the end of October. I have never had any issues, either. I bought it after searching for it (there's a very particular set of requirements I had) for over 6 months. I finally found it in Ohio and bought it without seeing 1 picture with 19,002 miles in 2017. I was actually offered $1,000.00 if I forfeited the deal for this guy who was too late, NOPE! It is black on black, E64 Convertible with the 6-speed manual transmission. It presently has just over 30,000 miles and I know it is very rare due to it being manual, black on black and convertible but more so because it is the lowest mile car here in the US and Canada, the only two places where the manual came to with a total of only 323 were ever delivered to both countries. Rare indeed! I'm still in love with it and have future plans at 50,000 miles to get the rod bearings replaced by ME no matter what! I do my own oil changes for $138.00, too. Comes in handy to be a mechanic on airplanes! Nice vid! You'd like the manual better, believe me I know!
I really wanted to get an e63 m6 for my daily, but due to its insane fuel consumption, i had to settle for a tuned 635d (~450bhp/900nm). That said, i think everyone sleeps on these cars really hard. They look goofy in pictures, but once you see it in person, and especially, once youve actually driven the car, there price just doesnt make any sense. It feels luxurious, sporty and special all at the same time. Im about 99% sure the m6 is going to sky rocket in price one day once people realize how much of an insane deal they are currently.
Got my e64 2 yrs ago with 112k mi. Did rod bearings, a battery, eibach springs and a top gear exhaust (with qtp cutouts). Most unique, stylish, and impractical vehicle I've ever owned. Semi garage queened. Not gonna sell it anytime soon.
That’s a very good point, it’s an expensive cup holder that happens to flop around like a cheap one... haha. Come one we had to find one thing wrong with it.... 😛
If you can find a decent one for a fair price jump on it. I still wish i bought an E46 M3 about 5 years ago, and i'm sure these will be the same. The good ones are just going to get more expensive. Not to mention how much more rare these are than any other BMW m car.
There's an 09 with 44k miles for sale close to me. I do not believe service records are available. What is the cost of the rod bearing and Vanos service?
I have a 2008 Model with 100k miles / tuned with add ons and Carbon bits - I daily drove it for about 3yrs, but due to covid now it gets to sit in the garage since I'm working from home. Just basic wear and tear (tires lol) and the only major issue was the DSC ABS unit going bad. Car runs solid and has such character. I never changed the rods (crossing fingers) but she was tested and has no issues soooo. I love the car and it sounds amazing especially since its straight piped. I change oil every 3k miles. The more I drive it the more I love it. Oil changed should not cost so much- about $100 for 10Liters and filter about $30 and because my car has been lowered I take it to a local oil change drive up shop where they are familiar with the TWO filters you have to drain - $40 - if you go to the dealer they will rape you with prob $700 and prob mess with your car to have you bring it back for repairs- I don't trust them. I do most of the work myself and never had a problem since I stopped going to BMW. This is my third M car and is my fav next to the E46 M3
dailying a 2007 m6 it ..bought it at 50 k miles. Annual maintenance, and a stuck thermostat is pretty much all the issues I have had so far. Beauty of a car. I believe the best way to drive it shift it into manual rather than use the jerky Auto mode.
The old auto mode for SMG, you get used to it and drive around its big flaws, but my gosh its comical the first time you experience it. Glad to hear you are enjoying your M6. They sure as damn are a future classic.
@@ZeroTo60Tube lol very true...the first couple of days I was subject to very dirty looks by my wife who couldn't believe this was the car I was all gaga about before purchase. And then the manual shifting happened and that silly grin on my face happened 😂
Damnn, I was sad I missed out on the collectiblke status by going for turbo N54 E92 instead of E92 M3 S65 engine but now I think my weekend car is gonna be this
I own a 2008 manual e63 M6. Bought it about 8 years ago with about 80K miles on it. Engine did have issue with bearings at 104K (about a year after I bought it) Rebuilt engine, has been a great car since. Added bearing replacement as part of scheduled maintenance. I drive mine hard and currently have 194K miles on it. On original clutch, but will replace soon. I don't drag race it being a manual, which has probably saved the clutch, but do play at the track and on the street (rolling runs) with it. If it was the SMG I probably would have sold when bearings went out, but decided to fix and keep it maintained as manuals seem a bit rare.
That’s wicked to hear!!!! I really think they are good cars. They just need to be treated like an exotic, not a Camry. I’m sure she’s got another 194k in her! Enjoy the ownership. 👌
For the price I think for just a bit more money you can get a C6 Z06 Corvette. 505 horsepower 7.0 liter V8 reliable engine, but the interior is cheap plastic junk.
We have had a really good run with our M5 V10. That said we always kept on top of maintenance and oil changes. There is a heap of info online about issues with them and how to resolve them, i would recommend learning as much as you can about the common problems and then making sure you keep an eye out for things as they develop. They are such an awesome vehicle and they need a little extra love, but they are so worth it. Oh also i think just do the rod bearings around 60-70,000 miles. DIY on the rod bearings is less that an oil change at the BMW dealer he in Australia, so a bit of a work to do, but not a financial disaster.
I’ve wanted an e92 m3 or m6 for years now! Still can’t afford one :( they seem such amazing value for money I just hope they don’t go up in price to soon
Now is the time. These M6’s have so much more character that then new ones. They might not be as quick or as nice, but they just feel so special to drive. Enjoy the 650i they are one hell of a nice daily.
Nice video, however i think you'll find that the M6 is 1710kg and M5 is around 1860kg. So not a few kilos different, its a lot of kilos different. I have owned an M6 for 8 years now and it is seriously underrated. Extremely fast car and probably the fastest N/A car in the world for its time.
Can't wait to get my licence back so I can drive my M6 again 😥 all i can do now is watch someone else drive it or watch UA-cam videos about it. Also i daily drive it when i do have a licence. I've put 50,000km on it in 4 years and never had an issue besides the clutch. But in all fairness i red line every gear.
Sounds like you are on the same page as us with the way you use yours. Our e60 we have had for 10 years now, it was daily driven for over half of those and daily red lined as well. These are just a magnificent piece of engineering. We have only done the clutch and the throttle body actuators aside from normal maintenance, which is just awesome for such a powerful car.
Hopefully stays that way. But even if i did run into some problems I'd throw whatever amount of money it takes just because the driving experience is worth it. I guess that's why they are a bit cheap at the minute because it does cost money to maintain. I have done my rod bearings just for peace of mind. They weren't that bad but after installing the new coated ones and knowing that I warm it up before i get on the pedal should be good for a long time to come. Looking forward to more Beemer content on your page.
In 2010 I started looking at these, and the 5. Then I owned a 2003 540i 6spd. I could never adapt to the body on this car, never liked the front or the rear. Since 2011 I have owned two '06 M5's. The one I have now, has a few mods. "M"..the most expensive letter in the alphabet
Welcome to the club! Now don't sell it anytime soon. That way you can be super smug when it triples in value, like anyone thats owned an E30 M3 for the last 15 years. :P
Hi from Perth guys. I have had my share of M cars but never a V10. I just have been too scared. So guys are you suggesting to go for a M6 rather than M5. It’s a shame it doesn’t have the active bolsters. Love you work gents.
We have owned an E60 M5 for 10 years now. It's been a brilliant car and gives 95% of the excitement the M6 does. We genuinely believe they are reliable if you are not a mechanical muppet. But the M6s are the more rare vehicle and if you are looking for something to possibly hold on to or go up in value the M6 is just a little more special and that should be reflected in its value as time goes on. This particular one has been sold since we did the video, it's crazy what they are selling for at the moment.
My 2010 E64 M6 @ 110k miles zero issues over for 5 years.. only complain is horrible gas mileage. Depending if I drive like a complete dick, I get 8mpg 🤣😁 but if drive calm without the M button I could get 12mpg, but then again that's before the car is warned up. After that it P500 and drive like there's no tommorow.
Going on 169,000 MILES and almost 9 years of ownership of my 6 speed s85 m5. Lots of preventive and elective maintenance, but that's to be expected on a high revving v10. I am still on my original throttle actuators! I'd like to see a Porsche v10 or Lambroghini v10 hit 100,000 miles without extensive maintenance. She still holds her own on a track: ua-cam.com/video/ufylSYwaJuM/v-deo.html
also its difficult to argue a carbon fiber roof on a 4,000 pound car (1,850kg) what are you saving by putting a carbon roof sheet instead of aluminum? 3 pounds if that. that roof was 100% marketing stuff.
@@reinaldofigueroa4557 I was just curious. I think the internet needs to know these arent as bad as so many people make out. haha. Good luck with it anyway.
Forgotten for a reason. its an expensive hunk of shit lol seriously just save ya money and get a real super car. Even on that start up you could hear the VANOS death rattle lol
I converted my 2010 M6 Coupe to Manual about 2 months ago and love it even more now! I did about 1k miles since swap, and I've been enjoying every single mile. I'm not SMG hater and it's brilliant tranny when it works. Right at 75k miles, PLCD failed, and since I had to pull it anyway, it was the perfect time for conversion. It was my 2nd conversion, and it was a relatively easy one.
Shhh guys, don’t tell everyone! I’ve been eyeing off one of these as a future collectible! Absolute beast!
Haha 😉
Just got one for less than 15k. Literally traded in a subaru and left with money. As long as you set aside some cash for expensive preventative maintenance and repairs they're a steal.
Got the M6 I will never go back best whip I ever owned
Have you had yours for long?
Since April they can be extremely reliable cars if you buy them from the right person. Never had 1 issue I would trust the car on a drive from SF to NY
Couldn't agree more. They awesome cars if you look after them. We need to change the general perception of reliability. We have had the company E60 m5 for just over 10 years now and we will do a video on it shortly. Its goes against everything the internet makes people believe about the platform. Cheers many more happy miles in your beast!
Zero To 60 yes most people read forums and they get scared into buying these cars. Honestly it works out great because it makes the prices of these cars plummet and they can become attainable for 25 year olds like myself. I have never had 1 issue with my car it is very reliable and if it breaks I will fix it. These cars are engineered deeply they are not poorly built by any means
That's it. I swear all the bearing failures have been caused by people either using the wrong oil, or over revving them when they are cold. And on the same note, the bearings are cheap, should be something people just do for maintenance. I think its amazing how well these motors have lasted. 500hp naturally aspirated 5.0l, its going to be on the great engines in 50 years time.
I love my m6 I have had it 4yrs now weekend driver..i have done bolton's along with an ESS supercharger kit..ohhh man does she scream...so much fun to drive..get alot of attention
Jesus, as i was reading this i was not expecting it to mention a ESS Supercharger.... Goals right there. I would sell my soul for a supercharged S85.
@@ZeroTo60Tubedailying a 2007 m6 it ..bought it at 50 k miles. Annual maintenance, and a stuck thermostat is pretty much all the issues I have had so far. Beauty of a car. I believe the best way to drive it shift it into manual rather than use the jerky Auto mode.
I’ve been dailying one for almost a year now and it’s cost me around 3k in various maintenance… I’ve also put about 30k miles on it, well worth the money!
Crashed my fathers 04-05-2009. Almost died. The car was NOT to bee saved, got so FUCKED up in the singel car crash😢😢😢
I daily my '08 M6. Almost no issues in a year and and half and 30,000 miles. Key is to let the car warm up before you decimate the roads
Very true Jordan, I had mine for 4 years 25000 miles and no problems. Let the engine heat up before flooring . Great engine
Had my e63 M6 for three years now. It has cost me a lot of money but honestly it's so good I don't ever feel like it's wasted. I've owned full blown race cars that are faster than it but they never give me the same amount of joy every time I start it up.
Anything performance orientated is going to need to be maintained. The use and fun you get out of a S85 means at least it’s money we’ll spent. Do ever get tempted to sell it or upgrade to the new V8 turbo m6?
Spot on guys! I’ve had mine since June last year..... I’m in love!!! Its epic.
They are such a special car. I don't think we'll ever see anything like them again.
Love the E63 M6 and E60 M5!
Definitely get the rod bearings replaced before 100,000 miles and change the oil every 3,000 miles!
Do that and reliability isn’t THAT bad lol.
That V10 engine just sounds SOOOOOO GOOD!!!
The E63 M6 is a very special time in BMW history. We will never again see a BMW generation like this.
It's a shame and i get that it all comes down to environmental impact but this style of gas guzzling engine is just magnificent. Even the e92 M3 we just tested feels so alive compared to modern turbo engines.
Hey juan, you will still see these cars , be cause im not giving up mine..lol
Those who still has these model and years..KEEP YOUR CAR!! I am still getting compliments, especially when you detail and shine your shit, dont let these newer models intimidate you, i have people who works for bmw and they tell me , the newer cars are nice, but SOME arent manufactured in Germany, and therefore have mechanical issues, dont get me wrong, they're nice cars, but our models is one of the outstanding years, and still an eye catcher..@ the end of the day were all still bmw family....with all do respect.....
M6 most underrated bargain basement super car out there today. UK price's 9k starting price for rough early car to 20k for the last 2010 model. The later cars have modern ICE as well. SMG Gearbox is it's weak point and it's strong point. As an auto box it's terrible so drive it in manual use the paddles ease off gas between changes to take pressure off clutch. In M mode you can actually feel the car change. I have fitted exhaust cutouts on mine and it sounds like a 90's F1 car. Buy as late as possible with low as possible miles. Preferably one that has had the gearbox and clutch already changed so you don't take the 3k hit.
Good advice.. and even better purchase! I like the idea of the cut outs too. Semi-quiet when you need the comfort, to full F1 spec when you want to let the V10 scream!
Great video! I own a pair of '10 M6 coupes. These cars are absolute beasts and not intended for the novice driver. The E63/64 M6 was not available in the US until the 2006 model rolled out. An '06-07 goes for less than $20k here. For $27-30k, you can buy a relatively low mileage 09-10 model which are the most desirable since they have the final upgrades such as the better iDrive and display screen ('10 model), and most mechanical issues were ironed out by then. If you're in the market for one, I would recommend buying nothing older than an '08 which is when the year of the LCI facelift.
Rod bearings, vanos solenoids, and throttle actuators remain the costliest preventive maintenance items. But given the point you made about what other car can you own with this much raw power and performance, and street presence for the money, there is simply no other comparison. You will not find another 500hp car for under $30k that looks and performs like the E63/64 M6.
They are going to be one of the greats from the internal combustion era. Truely phenomenal machines!!!
M6 is an amazing car but the C6 Z06 can be had for under 30K, 500 plus HP and outperforms the M6
@J B True, but my response to his last statement also remains true.
Digging up a grave. There's literally no performance difference between the pre - LCI and post - LCI models. Especially since both come with the crippled US SMG programming that should be switched over to Eurospec anyway.
@@19hundoc47 It doesn't have the street presence of an E63 M6, there are dime a dozen Corvettes on the roads. You can drive an entire year or two in any major US city and not see one of these in the wild. My post was You will not find another 500hp car for under $30k that LOOKS and performs like the E63/64 M6
Marvellous car... have had mine for 6 years now and I love it...
My wife sat in the rear seat all the way from Sweden down to the Nürburgring... a solid 1000 km ride... to allow my son to sit in the front seat next to me...
I love my 2007 M6 E64 and its a weekend car to preserve such a super whip to drive. Smiles per mile !
Had my M6 now over five years. Summer time drive only. Loving this car and V10.
I have a 2010 M6 space grey with 55,000 miles mint condition. I bought it at 32,000 miles for $32,000. I change the oil every 5,000 miles, runs perfectly.
I just picked up a 07 white m6 with the vanos and bearings all done cars amazing I will never sell it congrats on you m6
You got a steal bro damn
I remember when i saw a black one in 2008 when we were visiting our family in iran. I was a kid but damn I still remember that car sounded very special and I thought my mate was lying to me when he said it has a V10!!! Oh btw 335i convertibles are now p plate legal, im stuck between golf 6 R and 335i for now
Haha I know right, it just sounds insane when you hear it’s got a V10 under the hood of a bmw!
J B My mate bought one and he already got couple issues like water pump and waste gate rattle!!! That really turned me off from 335i, then I looked at 328i f30 since my budget is 20k and after some research I’ve found out that they have timing chain issues which costs big $$ to fix... since then I tested drove couple of cars like 2013 Accord V6 ( definitely a sleeper )
And 2009 370gt coupe ( not legal )
I really need something fun with 4 seats for around 20k
J B thanks for the advice man, I might have to look at 328i again. just have to be patient for the right one to pop up.
Golf R or 335i are both good buys!
In case anyone's been paying attention, these E63/64 M6's are finally creeping up in value, as are almost all used cars. They were going for mid $20-30k range, now a well sorted 2010 goes for $35-40k which is still not too bad in today's wild west used car market. However with that said, the inventory on these cars is much, much more limited than where it was a year or two ago. Back then, you'd regularly see anywhere from 10-20 2010 (final production year) M6 coupes listed on Cargurus. Today, less than a handful. I counted just one listed today.
If properly maintained, the analog look and feel of these V10 beasts is like nothing else out there. You are so immersed and involved as a driver, when driving in manual mode. Grab one while you still can, they won't be around for sale much longer at these prices.
😄where am at nobody wants them.. they go for 8k to15k
In 2023 they have dropped again in price
@@briandent5460yup. Just picked one up for 16k 66k miles
@@briandent5460I came to say this lol
I have 08 M6 vert with manual. Love these cars! Best value fun cars on the market right now.
They are at a price point that really doesnt make sense. They are the bargain buy of 2019/2020 thats for sure.
I've had my 07 m6 closing on 4 years. I've put 30k miles on and have taken on road trips across the U.S. with 0 issues. The car is now at 110k miles and I have only had to address one trans issue. Other than that only oil changes, brakes, etc.. I daily drive her and us at Beemerfam are going to put her up for someone to purchase soon. The E63 M6 is gold, especially with a good exhaust and tune.
We're so happy hearing all these good stories about them. Refreshing after so much horror making the rounds online. We hope you get to enjoy her properly until you sell it. Drive safe!!!
I've had my 2007 M6 convertible for 8 years now, just hitting 29,000 miles. I've only had to do fluids, filters, and tires. Always at the dealer. Great car and the whiney revs never get old...
They are an epic car. I still feel the internet is miss understood about the reliability of the amazing S85.
I have 2008 m6 6sp for over 2 years
Absolutely love it!
no problems what so ever
Ohhh man!!! A 6 speed would be amazing. We never got the manuals in Australia, such a shame. How many miles are on yours? Also the SMGs are prone to need a clutch around 60-100k miles. What are the manual clutches like for wear?
Zero To 60 I think it all depends on riding style
My M6 has 90 000 oginal clutch. I rev matching every downshift, no problem with wear so far.
Btw my other car Audi allroad also 6sp has 192 000 miles on original cluch as well lol
Still keeping my 2006 M6. Had it for 7 years now. Despite popular believe, the maintenance isn't a real problem.
That's what we found, which has been a big reason for making a video on them. So many youtuber, go the click back fear route and an owner of an S85 for over 10 years now. It's really been quite good.
Have you had anything replaced?
Beautiful car and a great review! The E63 M6 is what I’m saving money for right now!
I have my 2007 E63 M6 9 years now, I bought it in Glasgow Scotland and imported it into Ireland there are less than 20 of them here as they were crazy expensive when they were new. I never drove my car on a daily basis so just flicked over to 42,000 kilometers. I have 2 other ///M’s a ‘98 M3 EVO 2 and a 2018 F80 M3 Competition but this car is my favorite car of all time ! My one drives like a new car I love it ! Despite the low mileage my DSC pump failed twice on me and I had to replace my battery twice ! I have Carly connected car so I was able to register the battery myself.
Did anyone have any idea what caused the 2 DSC pump failures?
@@ZeroTo60Tube Apologies for the late reply, that DSC pump is an engineering flaw, I sent my pump to ECUtesting.com in the UK and they have a fix for this.They give a lifetime warranty with the repair so I got it repaired by them again.3 years on and no issues thankfully.
Great review guys! I have a 2008. 6 speed. No issues. I will admit it is low mileage as it is put away for the winter here in Canada. However, the car has been outstanding in both performance and reliability. You got it spot on, it is something very special.
They are such an amazing piece of BMW history. The S85s might not match the current generation engines for power on paper, they certain feel so much more special to drive. What are you plans with your one? Do you see yourself keeping it forever?
Zero To 60 I have no plans to part with this car. I enjoy driving it too much. I agree with you in that I feel in time this car will have a special place in BMW history with the low numbers, the V10 and the overall feel. It has to be driven to be truly appreciated. A classic in the making.
I own a 2007 M6 E63 Coupe as a daily driver. Phenomenal piece of machinery. I smile knowing it Is sitting in my driveway waiting for me. I make excuses to go somewhere just to drive it. And I damn near nut my paints when I push it to redline. No regrets! Best feeling on earth!
oooh , listen to that thing past 4000 rpm. Started one shortly after they had been launched many years back and it sounded just like this on tick over.
Original owner of 2007 e64. 67k miles, and I have driven it all across the southern US. 19.2 mpg on interstate at 70-80 mph. I have replaced the voltage regulator ( the dealer couldn't figure out what was wrong even though I told him it seemed like a voltage regulator due to the weird behavior when it occurred. He replaced a slew of sensors and crap $8k before I lost my cool and made him replace the damn voltage regulator a $200 part. FIXED!), I also had an oil cooler leak that was replaced. Other than that, 3 sets of tires, (4th pending), batteries, oil, filters, etc.
I guess the bearings and plugs are due now. I'll probably do them myself along with throttle actuator gears. Suspension looks good. No leaks!
My only tear is the heavy depreciation. The damn thing cost me over $120k with tax way back when.
I think I will keep it until it appeciates!😂
I have the 2008 E64 Convertible, 6 speed manul version, and with the Heads Up Display. Talk about how connected you can become with you car being a manual.
Only had a coil pack go bad and the front turn signals go bad. Oh, and the infamous radio getting wet issue.
I do plan to do a schedule lower bearing change based on age and wear.
But these truly are incredible machines for their current Fair Market Value.
Have you heard about the parable of the man who spent every penny he made and even went into severe crippling debt buying and keeping up with the maintenance of his e60 m5? Yes he worked 70 hours weeks in a hot factory breaking down his body day by day like a whip with pounding sounds of forklift beeps repetitively embedded into his head. All to keep up paying for the car at the end of the week he had nothing. Even had to spend 20$ a week on food because that’s all he could afford food also never bought a house couldn’t afford that had to sleep in the m5. What a life he lived. I could tell you even more
I’ve got a 08 manual and it’s a great car. Sounds like a beast once you straight pipe it.
They are really a special, last of a die-ing breed of European bruisers. Hold on to it for as long as you can, they are gonna surely start jumping up in value soon.
@@ZeroTo60Tube totally agree ! i own a full spec 07 indianapolis red metallic with carbon trim interior 7 speed smg :) love this car !!
I have a 08 m6. With the 6 speed manual. Only issue so far is I need a new battery and that's a pain.
What was the pain with the battery? We did a battery on our M5 recently and it wasn’t too expensive, mind we do have the scan tool to do a battery reset.
@@ZeroTo60Tube it's low currently and causing a few warning lights to come and go. It's 221 usd for the battery itself, 600 to have a dealer install it. I found a shop that will register the battery for 30 dollars though. Just haven't done it yet.
Please help me. Should I buy 2006 4.8is dinan or this beautiful m6
I do not have a daily only because I live in New York but after April I do have her until the end of October.
I have never had any issues, either. I bought it after searching for it (there's a very particular set of requirements I had) for over 6 months. I finally found it in Ohio and bought it without seeing 1 picture with 19,002 miles in 2017. I was actually offered $1,000.00 if I forfeited the deal for this guy who was too late, NOPE!
It is black on black, E64 Convertible with the 6-speed manual transmission. It presently has just over 30,000 miles and I know it is very rare due to it being manual, black on black and convertible but more so because it is the lowest mile car here in the US and Canada, the only two places where the manual came to with a total of only 323 were ever delivered to both countries. Rare indeed!
I'm still in love with it and have future plans at 50,000 miles to get the rod bearings replaced by ME no matter what! I do my own oil changes for $138.00, too. Comes in handy to be a mechanic on airplanes!
Nice vid! You'd like the manual better, believe me I know!
I really wanted to get an e63 m6 for my daily, but due to its insane fuel consumption, i had to settle for a tuned 635d (~450bhp/900nm). That said, i think everyone sleeps on these cars really hard. They look goofy in pictures, but once you see it in person, and especially, once youve actually driven the car, there price just doesnt make any sense. It feels luxurious, sporty and special all at the same time.
Im about 99% sure the m6 is going to sky rocket in price one day once people realize how much of an insane deal they are currently.
Got my e64 2 yrs ago with 112k mi. Did rod bearings, a battery, eibach springs and a top gear exhaust (with qtp cutouts). Most unique, stylish, and impractical vehicle I've ever owned. Semi garage queened. Not gonna sell it anytime soon.
Cup holder isn't cheap plastic (check the new RRP) and pulls out to fit in the rear console compartment.
That’s a very good point, it’s an expensive cup holder that happens to flop around like a cheap one... haha. Come one we had to find one thing wrong with it.... 😛
Awesome video chaps. Am very close to buying one of these for myself
If you can find a decent one for a fair price jump on it. I still wish i bought an E46 M3 about 5 years ago, and i'm sure these will be the same. The good ones are just going to get more expensive. Not to mention how much more rare these are than any other BMW m car.
11:56 "Yea I didn't need my knees anyway". lol.
I Have a M6! LOVE IT😍
They are an incredible piece of engineering 👌
There's an 09 with 44k miles for sale close to me. I do not believe service records are available. What is the cost of the rod bearing and Vanos service?
I have a 2008 Model with 100k miles / tuned with add ons and Carbon bits - I daily drove it for about 3yrs, but due to covid now it gets to sit in the garage since I'm working from home. Just basic wear and tear (tires lol) and the only major issue was the DSC ABS unit going bad. Car runs solid and has such character. I never changed the rods (crossing fingers) but she was tested and has no issues soooo. I love the car and it sounds amazing especially since its straight piped. I change oil every 3k miles. The more I drive it the more I love it.
Oil changed should not cost so much- about $100 for 10Liters and filter about $30 and because my car has been lowered I take it to a local oil change drive up shop where they are familiar with the TWO filters you have to drain - $40 - if you go to the dealer they will rape you with prob $700 and prob mess with your car to have you bring it back for repairs- I don't trust them. I do most of the work myself and never had a problem since I stopped going to BMW. This is my third M car and is my fav next to the E46 M3
dailying a 2007 m6 it ..bought it at 50 k miles. Annual maintenance, and a stuck thermostat is pretty much all the issues I have had so far. Beauty of a car. I believe the best way to drive it shift it into manual rather than use the jerky Auto mode.
The old auto mode for SMG, you get used to it and drive around its big flaws, but my gosh its comical the first time you experience it. Glad to hear you are enjoying your M6. They sure as damn are a future classic.
@@ZeroTo60Tube lol very true...the first couple of days I was subject to very dirty looks by my wife who couldn't believe this was the car I was all gaga about before purchase. And then the manual shifting happened and that silly grin on my face happened 😂
It does sound like a diesel engine but I love my M5 V10 after 5000 rpms sounds so good
I drive a 645ci and i love it!!
If yours sounds like a Diesel engine, then it’s probably fuked 😂
This sounds very similar to my e92 m3, allegedly they're the same engine but the m3 just had 2 less cylinders than the v10
Yeah they are very similar engines and we've actually got a manual e92 m3 coming to the channel in the new few weeks. I can't wait!
Damnn, I was sad I missed out on the collectiblke status by going for turbo N54 E92 instead of E92 M3 S65 engine but now I think my weekend car is gonna be this
I own a 2008 manual e63 M6. Bought it about 8 years ago with about 80K miles on it. Engine did have issue with bearings at 104K (about a year after I bought it) Rebuilt engine, has been a great car since. Added bearing replacement as part of scheduled maintenance. I drive mine hard and currently have 194K miles on it. On original clutch, but will replace soon. I don't drag race it being a manual, which has probably saved the clutch, but do play at the track and on the street (rolling runs) with it. If it was the SMG I probably would have sold when bearings went out, but decided to fix and keep it maintained as manuals seem a bit rare.
That’s wicked to hear!!!! I really think they are good cars. They just need to be treated like an exotic, not a Camry. I’m sure she’s got another 194k in her! Enjoy the ownership. 👌
Late comment, but they are very rare. Only 323 E63 M6 6 Speed Manual cars were made (North America only).
Did it have massage seats
My E64 M6 is a keeper ❤
They are freaking amazing!
Love the bmw content!
Thanks!!! We're definitely a bit biased toward the Bavarian beauties. What do you drive?
I drive a 2007 650i and badly want the m6 e63 and the twin turbo m6 as well
For the price I think for just a bit more money you can get a C6 Z06 Corvette. 505 horsepower 7.0 liter V8 reliable engine, but the interior is cheap plastic junk.
I bought one like over a year ago and I’m scared to drive it lol cuz of what all the people say about how bad are they and they break down a lot ..
We have had a really good run with our M5 V10. That said we always kept on top of maintenance and oil changes. There is a heap of info online about issues with them and how to resolve them, i would recommend learning as much as you can about the common problems and then making sure you keep an eye out for things as they develop. They are such an awesome vehicle and they need a little extra love, but they are so worth it. Oh also i think just do the rod bearings around 60-70,000 miles. DIY on the rod bearings is less that an oil change at the BMW dealer he in Australia, so a bit of a work to do, but not a financial disaster.
J B thanks man that’s a good idea .. do you know where to send the oil to check it?
Best M6 Video 😎😎😎😎
My dream car! I will own it one day!!!
I’ve wanted an e92 m3 or m6 for years now! Still can’t afford one :( they seem such amazing value for money I just hope they don’t go up in price to soon
New sub this is my dream channel to subscribe to. Already have the 650i getting the e63 m6 forsure.
Now is the time. These M6’s have so much more character that then new ones. They might not be as quick or as nice, but they just feel so special to drive. Enjoy the 650i they are one hell of a nice daily.
I have 2
2 E60 M5s here!
I feel like a peasant watch this M6 monster when I only own a e36 m3 3.2.... I know what my next M car will be....
Nice video, however i think you'll find that the M6 is 1710kg and M5 is around 1860kg. So not a few kilos different, its a lot of kilos different. I have owned an M6 for 8 years now and it is seriously underrated. Extremely fast car and probably the fastest N/A car in the world for its time.
manual sucks its out of 545i,i owned it for 6 months didnt have a single problem but it was a low mileage one
How do you know if someone is over 6ft, they'll fucking tell you.
🤣
Can't wait to get my licence back so I can drive my M6 again 😥 all i can do now is watch someone else drive it or watch UA-cam videos about it.
Also i daily drive it when i do have a licence. I've put 50,000km on it in 4 years and never had an issue besides the clutch. But in all fairness i red line every gear.
Sounds like you are on the same page as us with the way you use yours. Our e60 we have had for 10 years now, it was daily driven for over half of those and daily red lined as well. These are just a magnificent piece of engineering. We have only done the clutch and the throttle body actuators aside from normal maintenance, which is just awesome for such a powerful car.
Hopefully stays that way. But even if i did run into some problems I'd throw whatever amount of money it takes just because the driving experience is worth it. I guess that's why they are a bit cheap at the minute because it does cost money to maintain. I have done my rod bearings just for peace of mind. They weren't that bad but after installing the new coated ones and knowing that I warm it up before i get on the pedal should be good for a long time to come. Looking forward to more Beemer content on your page.
all M6 e63 was produced less than 5 000 pcs - for LHD, RHD
i dont think the trunk is carbon fiber buddy
Hello Vanos rattle @ 8:20
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Did you have an M6 before so know it’s a Vanos knock?
@@christianmoraleda1040 vanos rattle...not knock....but rattle yes bigtime 🤣
Cool, I’ve seen quite a few videos and they all seem to have that rattle, mine also has it but independent mechanic said all in order🤷♀️
@@christianmoraleda1040 mine doesnt.. but hey thats a 2008 lci...
this is great
Sound like dissel in low rpm
Thanks for the reply guys.
Thanks for watching man! 👌
I have one，2010 15000miles,I love it.
Dont sell it any time soon. I can see the values of these starting to turn around.
this one will be worth over a 100k in a couple of years if it maintained well and inflation rises to 4-5%
Trust me it's not forgotten at all 🤣 I repeat at alllll
I have m6
2009 😍
Have you had it for long or had many problems with it?
Zero To 60 No ... I bought it two years ago
These things are now 10-15k USD
Not anymore, lol.
Be aware, when things go wrong its costly, very.
In 2010 I started looking at these, and the 5. Then I owned a 2003 540i 6spd. I could never adapt to the body on this car, never liked the front or the rear. Since 2011 I have owned two '06 M5's. The one I have now, has a few mods. "M"..the most expensive letter in the alphabet
Drive a Civic then.
Please do not tell anyone else.
Rodknock sound!
It's not rod issues you heard...the Vanos system
I have one😍
Welcome to the club! Now don't sell it anytime soon. That way you can be super smug when it triples in value, like anyone thats owned an E30 M3 for the last 15 years. :P
@@ZeroTo60Tube This is my car instagram.com/p/ByY2S7Ci7kc/ but I know in the UK you can pick up a m6 for nothing like 8-12k on autotrader uk.
It's not a carbon boot
Carbon reinforced plastic apparently. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_6_Series_(E63)
Hi from Perth guys. I have had my share of M cars but never a V10. I just have been too scared. So guys are you suggesting to go for a M6 rather than M5. It’s a shame it doesn’t have the active bolsters. Love you work gents.
We have owned an E60 M5 for 10 years now. It's been a brilliant car and gives 95% of the excitement the M6 does. We genuinely believe they are reliable if you are not a mechanical muppet. But the M6s are the more rare vehicle and if you are looking for something to possibly hold on to or go up in value the M6 is just a little more special and that should be reflected in its value as time goes on. This particular one has been sold since we did the video, it's crazy what they are selling for at the moment.
@J B ^This. The M5 seats were designed to be at home in a sedan and change to make do in a sports car. The M6 seats are just pure sports car as is.
Nearly the speed limit ahhahahaah
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My 2010 E64 M6 @ 110k miles zero issues over for 5 years.. only complain is horrible gas mileage. Depending if I drive like a complete dick, I get 8mpg 🤣😁 but if drive calm without the M button I could get 12mpg, but then again that's before the car is warned up. After that it P500 and drive like there's no tommorow.
Going on 169,000 MILES and almost 9 years of ownership of my 6 speed s85 m5. Lots of preventive and elective maintenance, but that's to be expected on a high revving v10. I am still on my original throttle actuators! I'd like to see a Porsche v10 or Lambroghini v10 hit 100,000 miles without extensive maintenance. She still holds her own on a track: ua-cam.com/video/ufylSYwaJuM/v-deo.html
hahaha "this thing is a monster" can relate. They are mean when you start winding them out. What exhaust is on the car in the video?
Zero To 60 Thanks! Einhorn Industries catless headers, Einhorn trackpipe (Section 1 and 2), and Dinan Section 3.
@@EightyFiveHundred I guess that explains it haha. Sounds angry!!! Love it.
I didn't know the guy from the IT Crowd was actually two white guys reviewing cars.
also its difficult to argue a carbon fiber roof on a 4,000 pound car (1,850kg) what are you saving by putting a carbon roof sheet instead of aluminum? 3 pounds if that. that roof was 100% marketing stuff.
Why not a 2010
What do you mean exactly?
Oh my word...M mode selected...rip through 3 gears well into 4th.... and "...there you go 100km and speed limit"
LMAO 🤣 .... more like 200km/h
These are so damn cheap now! Servicing will bite though.
My has 98000
Have you had many or any problems?
@@ZeroTo60Tube I do right now I bought the car like that I need to change some parts but but is not that bad
@@reinaldofigueroa4557 I was just curious. I think the internet needs to know these arent as bad as so many people make out. haha. Good luck with it anyway.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks you too I think all cars are the same, you need to take care of your car no matter what type of car is
They’re a totally daily-able car, EXCEPT for the gas mileage. It’s comically bad.
trunk isnt carbon lmaoooo its aluminum
Its definitely not metal.
@@ZeroTo60Tube lmaooooooooo again its not carbon stock trunk hahaha its aluminum trunk and hood smh noobs
@@thelastsaiyan6631 i agree. its aluminum not carbon. good catch saiyan !
Forgotten my ass
piece of 💩💩 I had a 08 M6. 1 issue after the other. garbage 🗑
How many miles was on yours?
Forgotten for a reason. its an expensive hunk of shit lol seriously just save ya money and get a real super car. Even on that start up you could hear the VANOS death rattle lol